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Student Challenges Rabbi Singer: Prove Jesus Can’t Be God
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But, can't can't that words just [music]
say that or say that God is almighty
can't just be defining God's divinity
instead of it's like limiting his power?
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>> I'm not sure where it says that same
Ishmael comma does that same is all like
I said man that's obviously
metaphorical.
But, like
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>> that can
it's just a a metaphor but it's it says
it clearly says it in
>> It is opposed by the prophets of Israel
and therefore is false.
>> But then,
why is it impossible that can
take on a human form like Jesus or
Yacub?
>> If God is omnipotent, meaning if God is
all powerful, why can he not come as a
human being?
So, the reason the clear transparent is
answer would have to be what? Would have
to be it has the same to not that God is
not a man, right? I mean, if we don't
want to engage in some sort of
philosophical metaphysical conversation
and try to outdo each other, what we
would look for is does the Torah or the
prophets or the writings have anything
to say about this topic? Cuz if that's
what will be most persuasive to a
Christian cuz Christians really do they
really do and when I steal men they
really believe it's not his word of God.
It's a very easy to engage with them.
Well,
you're writing this is a time to pick up
your pen.
Numbers 23:19
explicitly says God is not a man that he
shall lie. He's not a mortal that will
change his mind. First Samuel chapter
15:29
First Samuel 15:29
the God netzach Israel lo yeshaker for
the glory of Israel does not lie ki lo
adam hu li nacham cuz he's not a man
that will change his mind. Hosea chapter
11:9
to not explicitly said tell them you
can't worship anything that flies above
below it's not me. Now
we are all created in the image of God.
Right?
Banim
atem laShem you are children of the Lord
your God Deuteronomy chapter 14 verse 1.
So all children of Hashem are created in
the image of God. Well, this is true.
Christians incidentally are stuck with a
problem and that is the earliest
Christians who composed the Christian
Bible did not believe that Jesus was
God. That was a later Christian
invention and that's transparent. So
it's very easy to even look at the
Christian Bible
and we see there clearly that whoever
wrote it did not think Jesus was God.
That was a much later development. The
word Trinity was invented by a
I'm going to call him a theologian
um right in the beginning of the 3rd
century.
Tertullian was his name.
His home Carthage.
He invented the word Trinity in about
the year 200.
It's amazing thing, you know, hey what
good thing can come from Africa? So
it's cuz all that I desire comes from
there. All of it. All of that all that
stuff is all Carthage and Alexandria all
the ugly desire comes from there.
So at this time when that tumah is
expanding
the Mishnah and the Havalah is being
recorded by Rabbi Yehudah HaNasi in the
northern part of Eretz Yisrael. So like
the tumah and the kedushah are both
rising at the exact same So he invents
the word Trinity. He doesn't even
believe in it incidentally. He believes
that Jesus was created and not eternally
divine. I'm not kidding. That's why I
said I was about to say church father
but they didn't allow him to be a church
father cuz he himself is a heretic and
was our
were arguing over what does it mean that
he is God? Is he generated by God? He's
a son. What does it mean to even be a
son?
If God is the father and he's the son,
what does those words even mean? You
have a father.
I could say with certainty that there
was a point in time when your father
existed and you did not exist. It's
transparent. So, using the term father
and son conveys that the son is not
eternal, that the son must have been
created and generated.
So,
this is a big war exploding
in the empire, which had become
Christian in the 4th century. And
Constantine, who we talked about
earlier, converts to Christianity and he
sees this a fight in the empire among
Christians of what do we believe
exactly?
And then he convenes the Council of
Nicaea in 325 and there they voted on
the nature of doctrine and trinity. I'm
not kidding, it's a vote.
And the guys who said that Jesus was
co-eternal,
very light of very light, equal with the
father, they won and the other guys lost
and had to run for their lives.
And that was it. Now, the church still
had many problems with this. It goes on.
You'll go on chat or whatever your rabbi
is on your cell phone. You'll look at
But it goes on to Constantinople.
They're still trying to refine it. It is
opposed by the prophets of Israel and
therefore is false. Means [snorts]
Tanakh is our guardrail. It's our tennis
net. That's why we we can't deviate from
it. That's why we can't those horse.
What?
>> Can't Can't that words just say that God
is almighty? Can't that just be defining
God's divinity instead of It's like
limiting his power.
Cuz it also does say um
um
And I think this And this uh
And the
I'm not sure where it says the same Ish
Milchamah. Does that say
Does it like it say man? That's
obviously metaphorical.
But
like that can
it's just a a metaphor, but it's it says
it clearly says it in
>> Good question.
The Torah says explicitly Hashem Ish
Milchamah.
Exodus chapter 15.
So, it says there what does Hashem Ish
Milchamah mean? God is a What does Ish
mean?
That's the whole predicate foundation of
your question.
But as it turns out it's a very good
question.
I apologize I was instant, but as it
turns out it's not correct.
Because the way Christians marshal
Exodus 15 verse three is that they it's
it's a fallacy of restricting a word to
having one possible meaning, which is
exactly what they have to do, saying Ish
only means man, and then say, "Aha, you
see God is a man of war."
Okay? That's how the argument runs, but
it's a complete fallacy. And it's a it's
an ad hoc fallacy of restricting a word
to have only one possible meaning.
That's the whole foundation. But
actually it's completely incorrect. The
word Ish can definitely mean a man in
biblical Hebrew. It could also mean a
husband. It can also doesn't mean a man
at all, but it means to be a master. And
that's what's meant in Exodus 15. I'll
give you
a Let me just finish the thought and I'm
all open to everybody.
So, I'll give you an example. Get your
pen out.
>> [laughter]
>> First Kings chapter two, our
conversation is between David and King
Solomon. David is dying in the beginning
of Malachim. That's how it begins. David
is on his deathbed. And there's a whole
um
problem of who's going to take over for
him, but it's ultimately solved and
Solomon is now anointed to be king after
his father.
And David turns to his son to
Melech and says,
"You now have to be an ish." Well, it
means there that you have to be a master
and it's interesting, that means you
have to take control. You have to be a
mensch, you have to be So, the word ish
can mean someone who was a kind of a
master or may say a baal habayit. So,
therefore, Hashem ish milchama, the
English translation, even the Christian
ones, are correct. Usually, they will
render it God is a master of war. So,
therefore, the claim collapses. Now,
it's I think it's important to know that
Christians don't claim that Jesus'
physical body was God. Meaning,
for all those of Christian, was Jesus'
kidneys, bladder, and liver literally
God created the heavens and the earth?
They would say, "No, that would be
idolatry to them." So, it doesn't it
doesn't work at all. And moreover, in
the Christian Bible, we are told, I
don't believe this is historical, but
let's say I considered everything, we
are told that Jesus says that the father
is greater than I am. John 14. The
Christian Bible has Jesus saying that
you, God, are the only true God and I'm
just a messenger that you sent.
"I could do nothing of my own,
but only the one who sent me." John
chapter 5 verse 19 and verse 30. So, as
far as the book of John goes, I'm I'm
marshaling the fourth gospel cuz that
contains the highest Christology among
the gospels. Even there, he's completely
subordinate to the father. It's a later
Christian invention and using the
argument
of that it says Hashem ish milchama is a
fallacy by saying I'm only going to
allow the word Ish to be rendered as
a as a man Y chromosome rather than a
whole few things there. And And that's
why it's when you watch Christians do
this, you have to really pay careful
attention what's going on. It's like
watching
If they're good, you're watching maybe
David Blaine. You're trying to I know
he's not floating, right? And I know the
law the the laws of thermodynamics are
not being suspended in favor of my
entertainment. So, he's not doing magic.
So, there's an explanation for it. Okay,
so always know that they usually are
like watching a 9-year-old do a magic
show, where you you know immediately
what's going wrong.
But, you just look it up. It's very
easy. I always tell my viewers
look it up for yourself. If you enjoyed
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