Rabbi Singer EXPOSES Tucker’s Shocking Claims About Noahide Laws & Killing Christians!

I don't think Tucker is a good faith actor cuz Ben Shapiro happens to have a view of Christianity that's very I mean he he I don't know of a single Jew in the world [music] that encourages Christians to be more committed to the Christian faith than Ben Shapiro. If anybody knows of another candidate, it's he's the worst possible person. So, I don't think that Tucker is acting [music] in good faith here. I think what Tucker is trying to do is identify the Noachide laws as some sort of rabbinic concoction. It's not. It's all clearly in the Bible. >> I want to welcome back to the show Rabbi Tovia Singer, one of the world's leading experts on Judaism, Christianity, the Bible, and the New Testament. Now, a major religious controversy has erupted after Ben Shapiro discussed the seven Noachide laws, which Judaism teaches are universal moral principles for all of humanity. Now, Tucker Carlson responded by raising the alarming suggestion that these laws could somehow be used to justify violence against Christians. Shapiro strongly rejected that interpretation. Let's get to the bottom of the seven Noachide laws today. Rabbi Singer, welcome back to the show. >> Wonderful to join you. >> Rabbi Singer, what exactly are the seven Noachide laws? Where do they originate? And is there any basis in Jewish law or tradition for the claim that that that that could justify violence against Christians or other people around the world? >> Right. So, the seven Noachide laws are pre-Sinatic laws, meaning commandments that are in the Bible. Every Christian on this planet believes that the book of Genesis is the word of God. So, in the in scripture, we find the law against murder as an example. Uh Cain was held accountable for killing his brother. If there were no Noachide laws, then that term is an anachronism. What it means simply are those commandments that are given before Mount Sinai. So murder would be one of them. We are introduced as an example of Genesis chapter 6, the flood. If as these people scream is there no Noahide laws or the rabbis invented it, then what exactly did the generation in the year 1656 after creation, what did they do wrong? We're we're told that they committed sexual immorality, powerful men raping weak women, they are engaging in violence and robbery. Explicitly, what is wrong with these with that behavior if there were no pre-synatic laws? We find as an example in Genesis 18, God tells Abraham, now again, I want to make this clear for those who don't know this, all of our Christian friends believe that the Torah is the word of God. They believe this is historical. God tells Abraham he's going to destroy Sodom for a number of sins. Well, what exactly did they wrong do wrong? And moreover, if what these people are criticizing Noahide laws as though rabbis invented that, then what exactly did Abraham mean when he said to God, but perhaps there are a 50 righteous people in the city. Well, what would have been the standard upon which Abraham was pointing to that they would have been righteous or wicked. So it's very clear that there are commandments that are given at law sexual immorality that are all forbidden and that are given before the Torah is given. Now, I just want for people to understand that in the Torah there are there are seven not laws but seven categories of laws. There are a whole bunch of people that are forbidden to enter relationships. So therefore, uh eating from an animal while still alive, Genesis chapter 9. So, these are the Noahide laws. I want to address the point about uh putting being put to death for murder. You know, these laws don't uniquely apply to Jews or to Christians. Everyone is forbidden to engage in in to to um to commit murder. Uh idolatry is forbidden to everyone. But, I want to hone in on the sharper point that you're raising. As it turns out, as I just said, these laws applies to apply to both Jews and non-Jews. Yet, despite this, there's not a single case in history in which a Jewish court ever um ever uh uh uh killed anyone, put anyone to death who was not Jewish for violating the seven Noahide laws. That cannot be said of Christians. There are a wide range of examples of Christians that were put to death by the church. Both Protestants and Catholics have executed people like Michael Servetus in Geneva and many others who just didn't believe in the doctrine of the Trinity. So, we have no history of either in our sources or anybody's sources that a Jewish court has ever executed any Christian or anybody from another faith. Uh but, that cannot be said of Christians. So, this is a a hollow claim. >> Let's go through the seven Noahide laws in order, let's say. Uh do not worship idols, do not blaspheme God, do not murder, do not steal, do not commit forbidden sexual relations, do not eat flesh taken from a living animal, preventing cruelty to the animals, and establish courts of justice. Let's go back to Tucker Carlson. What is he so upset about? Does he feel it's a threat to Christianity? Does it somehow threaten the existence of Christianity? You once mentioned to me in a conversation, perhaps these seven Noahide Laws appear also in the New Testament. What's the source for that? And why are they not a threat to the Christian world? >> Right. As it turns out, Tucker, it's really not a good combination when you're illiterate about your own Bible and you really have an unfavorable view of Jews. That's a terrible con- That's a terrible cross right there between the two of them. Tucker is not familiar with his own Bible. Acts chapter 15 outlines the seven Noahide Laws explicitly. I want to provide for the viewers the context of Acts 15. It's in a council that gathers in Jerusalem. Peter's there, Paul's there, James are there. Purportedly there, that's how the text goes. The question, the context is that non-Jews who want to become Christians. Now, that word Christian is not used, but we'll use it cuz it's conventional. Do you have to convert to Judaism in order to be a Christian? This is the very early uh church. So, what emerges is that non-Jews who want to become Christians, they don't have to convert to Judaism or they don't have to get circumcised, but rather they have to keep these seven laws. And you just look at Acts chapter 15, it's right there. For example, there's a prohibition there about eating the flesh of an animal that was offered to that was offered to idols, an animal that was strangled and tortured in its suffering, the prohibition of immoral sexual behavior, thievery, murder. So, it's in the book of Acts. Means Acts list them. Now, I know what people might be saying, "But I never heard of the word Noahide Law." And that is true. Means the word is an anachronism. And what it means is given that Noah, we're told in Genesis 6, was righteous. So, people who are disciples of Noah, followers of Noah, the people who would have wound up on the on that ship, these are the people who are following these pre-Sinaitic laws before the Torah was given to Mount Sinai. So, they were in the Christian Bible, and really it doesn't puzzle me because what Tucker is doing is he's marshalling texts in order to attack Judaism, but it's right in his Christian Bible, and it's right in the Torah, which all Christians believe is the word of God. >> But isn't it possible, I don't know, you're not Tucker Carlson, of course, but isn't it possible that when Ben Shapiro quotes the importance of the Noahide laws, it's a type of like universal system? And Tucker Carlson's trying to say, well, Christianity is this universal system greater than Judaism. So, then comes along Ben Shapiro says, no, wait a second, there's even a greater universal system. I don't Trying to get into his head. I don't really spend much time I don't waste a lot of time in Tucker Carlson's brain. I'm just wondering, is that what he thinks is threatening to him? >> I I don't think Tucker is a good faith actor because Ben Shapiro happens to have a view of Christianity that's very I mean, he he I don't know of a single Jew in the world that encourages Christians to be more committed to the Christian faith than Ben Shapiro. If anybody knows of another candidate, it's he's the worst possible person. So, I don't think that Tucker is acting in good faith here. I think what Tucker's trying to do is identify the Noahide laws as some sort of a rabbinic concoction. It's not, it's all clearly in the Bible. However, one point I want to make, that is all the rabbis did was codify what's already there. As an example, if if you would ask me to go to the supermarket to pick up foods that are that are healthy, that are good for a diet of weight loss as an example. So, I made a list of broccoli and I don't know what cucumbers, whatever it is that will be on the list, and milk, whatever it is. I didn't invent broccoli. I didn't invent beans. I didn't invent water and milk. I just simply made a list of these are the foods that are healthy. All the rabbis have done, which they did, is they simply created a shopping list. But a shop when you create a shopping list, you organize what's in the Bible. You're not inventing the prohibition against murder, idolatry, uh against kidnapping, against sexual They're not inventing it. They're simply saying, "These are the codified laws that appear explicitly not only in the in the Christian Bible, but also in the Hebrew Bible." So, that's what's really very silly. I don't think he's acting in good faith. It seems very strange. >> Well, it seems to me that most Christians I know, family men, family women, people that are upstanding citizens, are they already fulfilling the seven Noahide laws? Or is it something you feel society is swaying from? >> Uh it really depends. I mean, and I think Christians will be on board on this one. I mean, if somebody is worshipping something that's not God as God, so that is a violation of seven Noahide laws. Uh in fact, there are many Christians who are Unitarians as an example, and they believe that the doctrine of Trinity is idolatry. It happened to be that Ben has a more liberal view than this, and that's why it seems so strange to talk about attacking him, but there are groups like the Witnesses and so on that that believe that the Trinity is highly problematic, as do, I don't know, 2 billion Muslims on the planet. So, there are different views on this matter, but nevertheless, it's very clear in the Christian Bible. I wanted to just The The viewers may not pick up on this point. I want to make it clear. It is true that Paul attacks Jewish rituals. He's what's called antinomian. I just want to lay this out. >> What What does nomian mean? >> Oh, that means law. Okay? So, Greek word means antinomian means he's against the ritual law. Okay? So, in Colossians, Paul says, "Let 2:16 say, 'Let no one tell you about what you eat, what you drink, what holidays you keep, new moons." Uh for the the law is only a shadow and the essence is Christ. Paul is saying Christ is the end of the law to everyone who believes. But I want to make a statement and unless you're a complete you're completely ignorant, you wouldn't understand that if you completely you wouldn't understand this. Paul is saying that the law is done with, he means only ritual law. He does not mean moral law, meaning the laws that we understand. For instance, Paul oppose uh violating the seven Noahide laws. He opposes uh a person uh engaging in a sexual immorality. Explicitly he does. Murder, uh all these things he he attacks them. So it's very important that in in the view of Paul, we'll take what's called the antinomian view of Paul, ritual laws are no longer binding. But these laws we'll call the moral the Noahide laws will all be binding in Paul's view. He says it explicitly. And that's why Tucker is marshaling something that's just not there. Paul opposed ritual laws, but he didn't oppose the Noahide laws. >> Well, I'm not such a polemicist when it comes to who's right or wrong. I'm just wondering, is there the possibility that Jews and Christians can work together effectively? Um let me bring out a few personal examples that I've seen. It seems to me that Christian society could use some more laws. Uh one of the uh things that could happen in a Christian society is since there's no laws, people can stray off into uh all types of interesting movements you're seeing from the socialist and the LGBTQ movement and so on, even to the point of where you have people uh euthanasia for example, or transitioning surgery. That seems to be a real distortion from law. So is it possible that uh Christianity could learn a bit from Judaism without having to accept all of Judaism? >> The Christian canon claims that it's learning from Judaism. Bear in mind that the Christian Bible says that the Pharisees, meaning which is exactly same thing as Orthodoxy is, sit in the seat of Moses and therefore whatever they teach you you must follow. Now that I'm marshalling Matthew 23, which is a hostile chapter towards Jews. So it's a hostile witness. Um Matthew chapter 5 says that I didn't come to destroy the law. Paul says expressly in Romans chapter 3 verse 2 that the oracles of God have come to us through the Jews, were preserved the Jews. So I I'm not going to say Tucker doesn't know and I I'm sure he doesn't know, but he has such an unfavorable view of the Jewish people that essentially what he wants to do is indict the nation no matter what the evidence is. But the Christian Bible is very clear that the origins of God's oracles and truth only come from the Jewish people. I mean, how does a Christian who's watching the show right now who believes that the book of Song of Songs or the book of Chronicles is the word of God and all Christians believe that. But what's their source for that? The only way they know this because the Jews tell them that. It's not These books are not quoted in the Christian Bible. So therefore he's I wouldn't say playing a game. He's not playing a game. It's a very serious problem that we're confronting here, but the attack of Tucker is completely vacuous. The Christian Bible doesn't support any of these claims and the Christian Bible opposes idolatry. I mean, many Christians do believe that doctrines and trinity is a later creation of the church. I leave that to Christians. I respond to these questions frequently. >> Well, let me ask you another question. It's not only that Jews are the supposed enemy of Tucker Carlson. He says the most horrific people he's ever met are Christian Zionists. >> Right. >> That's also you Why do you think he's going after Christian Zionists? How is he threatened by their existence? >> Oh, he hates Israel. That's why. I mean he it's really that that's not complicated. Um so whereas the Hebrew Bible tells us that the Jews who one day return there's not an idea that some like we discovered. Uh Christians have long known this. Pure Puritans in the 16th, 17th, 18th century said that the Jews spoken of in the Hebrew Bible clearly the Jewish people who while they went into exile because of their sins Ezekiel chapter 39 verse 23, 24, 25 nevertheless that nation would return. And when John Nelson Darby, a theologian from the United Kingdom came to the United States and explained that wait the Jewish people are God's people who God worked with. Doesn't mean they're going to go to heaven. I just want to make it clear in the view of Christian Zionists be clear Jews do not go to heaven if they don't convert to Christianity. So that I just don't want to miss uh mis- uh present what a Christian Zion- They believe that God has a unique eternal covenant with the Jewish people that cannot be undone by the United Nations or Quartet. It's eternal and it's written and it's enshrined in the Bible. Now the reason why many Christians have a problem with this is the following. The church fathers all said that the God was done with the Jews. This is very critical. All there's no exceptions. There's every single church father declared that while the Jews were chosen and they were given this favor but because they not only rejected the Jews but killed them or responsible for his death therefore the Jews are no longer chosen. Augustine a the bishop of Hippo fourth, fifth century um church father probably one of the most revered of all in his um epic work his is the city of God, he addresses the question of why the Jews still here. That means if the Jews are not chosen any longer, Rome has fallen, the city God is written right after the fall of Rome in 410. Why are the Jews still here? Like why they around? They should have disappeared like the Canaanites did. So he comes up with this solution. That is the Jews are a witness people. And what that means and why this germane to our friend Tucker is that in his view God keeps the Jews around so everyone would see them in their degraded state never to return to Jerusalem, never to have a temple, never to have sovereignty in the Holy Land, and everyone would see what happens to a to the people who reject Christ. And in fact when the Gestapo came to Rome in 1943 to take away the Jews in October, I think was 16th, there was some protest these are the Pope's Jews, you got to protect them. Nevertheless, because the church fathers said the Jews would never return and Calvin said that and Luther said that means the reformers said it as well, they go how is it that the Jews are returning? And this is a very big problem for people who share Tucker's view that the Jews are the rejected people of God and the church is the new Israel called replacement theology. So what Christian Zionists are doing is they're rejecting the Christology of the church fathers. They're rejecting covenant theology, new Israel theology, or what is also called replacement theology. So that's what he's that's what he's working with. That's what he's marshaling in his battle against Israel. >> What is a Jewish opinion about converting other people? As far as I understand Judaism, we're not out there to convert anyone really. Um and therefore it seems to be Christians and Muslims would rather convert us. What is your view of How does Judaism view the world around us? I think Tucker Carlson and friends have some idea that we're sitting around talking about how bad Christians and Muslims are, but you and I both know we spend very little time talking about how bad people are around the world. We just want to survive, we want to be left alone, we want to learn Torah, want to keep the Sabbath. What's your perspective? What does Judaism think about the world around us? >> Tucker is projecting here cuz it's Christianity that insists that unless you belong to their religion, you're going to go to hell. I mean, it's Christianity that's exclusive. And not only that, and I I'm not saying this is an attack, but just the way I mean, Mark 16:16, if you believe that you're baptized, you're saved. If you believe not, you're damned. I mean, ex- plicitly in the Christian Bible, if you're not a Christian, you're going to hell. We don't believe that, the Christians believe that. Moreover, I'll just say this, there are many many Christians who think that if you don't belong to my Christian denomination, you're lost. There are many Catholics who believe there's no salvation outside of the Catholic Church, and there are Protestants that believe, I mean, Luther and Calvin believed that the Pope was the Antichrist. So, and as it turns out, Muslims also believe that you have to become Muslim in order to go to heaven. We're the ones who are universalists, meaning we're the ones that there you don't need to convert to Judaism in order to have a relation with God and have eternal life, that the the pious among the nations, the righteous among the nations, we can call them Noahides, you can call them whatever you want. People who worship the one God of Israel, keep this moral code, have a place in the world to come. So, Tucker is actually projecting. It's his I'm not attacking Christianity, but I think he's an Episcopalian, but regardless, it is the church that has declared that there's no salvation outside of the cross. We don't say that. You don't There's no reason for you to convert to the Jewish faith. You could be saved as a Noahide, you have a relation with God by keeping and preserving these seven Noahide Laws. >> So, we're not imposing these seven Noahide Laws. These are just suggestions for humanity. >> No, I mean the seven Noahide Laws really are commandments. It really is the mother load of bad ideas to commit murder and to engage in kidnapping and to rape women, you know, all these things are a very grave sin in Tanakh and they have in me a very grave sin in the Christian Bible. This comes up in the Christian Bible. These are condemned in the New Testament. I'm not a Christian, but the New Testament on these issues of Noahide Laws are, as we said, the list is in the Book of Acts chapter 15. Like the rabbis came up with something is plainly in the text. >> So, I think what Ben Shapiro is saying, "Listen, we're not imposing our religion on you. We have these commandments we they're called the seven Noahide Laws. We're we're admitting that these are very important things. It will protect society." Now, there's many reasons a guy like Ben Shapiro would say that. I mean, do not murder. Well, just remember October 7th. The world's not doing very well in that in that well. Um in terms of idol worship, I'm not sure where idol worship is in America. I don't see many idols in the United States of America. Uh do not steal. We see a lot of thievery around the world. We do see a lot of people committing a forbidden sexual relations in the Western world today. Unfortunately, I'm a marriage therapist. I deal with people with addiction all the time. It seems to be a very very serious issue when it comes to uh do not eat the flesh taken from a living animal. That's just highlighting our importance the importance of being kind to animals. I think that's very important to do. And of course, establishing courts of justice. Uh there's many questions about judicial law. Is it politicized too much? So, it seems to me that he's just saying Let me hear what you have to say about that. What Ben Shapiro is saying is uh these are the commandments we believe the whole world has to keep uh to protect you, not just to protect us. >> Right, exactly. Again, I think I would say Tucker is projecting, which he is, but as it turns out, there are Christian denominations that think that other Christian denominations are not saved because they don't have the truth. The Orthodox Church, I just as a point, which is the second largest Christian denomination, I'm lumping all versions of it, the Eastern Orthodox, Oriental, they believe that the Catholic Church has missed a doctrine surely because they believe in the Filioque. It doesn't matter what that means, but again, it is the church that's exclusivist, not the Jewish people. And you know, what's happening here is transparently Tucker is in a battle for the Republican Party in the United States, and he wants to turn the Republican Party against Israel, which is very striking. So, but Tucker is, he claims to be a conservative, and I remember when he was on Crossfire on CNN many, many years ago after Pat Buchanan. So, he always defended these conservative this these conservative laws. And for him now to weaponize the Noahide Laws, which he always defended when he worked for Fox, he always defended when he worked for CNN on Crossfire, he It's very transparent what he's doing, and that is he's attacking Ben, who really is the worst person to attack on this point because Ben has the most liberal view of the Christian faith of anyone I can know, and I don't know of anyone, any Jewish person in the United States like Ben who encourages Christians to be more committed to their Christian religion. So, Ben is like the worst person in the world for Tucker to go after. >> Well, you're mentioning before is he's representing or giving voice to the Pat Buchanan side of the conservative movement. For whatever reason he wants to do that, William F. Buckley kicked out of the conservative movement the anti-Semites. So, it sounds like he's trying to reintroduce this for some political reason. Am I reading that correctly? >> Yeah, I mean he's Tucker is an isolationist and he's fiercely anti-Israel. While he worked, he was a broadcast on Fox News for 15 years. So then he couldn't I mean I could I sniffed it out. I mean a lot of people did, but it doesn't matter. While he was at Fox, he had a he was a more he was cautious and now he can let loose. His goal is that Tucker wants to to he's there 2 years left on Trump's term and he wants to make sure that the Republican Party turns against Israel and therefore he could marshal anything. Again, Ben is the worst possible person he can do this to. But Pat Buchanan, who's still alive incidentally, Pat Buchanan was is a virulent anti-Semite. He's an isolationist. He hates Israel and as it turns out when Pat Buchanan stepped down from his role on Crossfire on CNN, who took over? Tucker Carlson. Hello. So that's what we're dealing with now and Tucker sees an opportunity. He's not going to convert Trump. That's never going to happen. Trump is a philo-Semite. He always loved Israel before he any had any known political ambitions and his father was the same way. He just loved Jews, gave money to build synagogues. I mean, that's not that's not typical. And Tucker recognized that once Trump is is finishes his term, who's going to be the person who steps forward? It's going to be someone who hates Israel, believes in replacement theology, is going to seize the heart and soul of the Republican Party. >> Well, it seems to be what we call the horseshoe theory is reappearing both the extreme right and the extreme left. The the left uses Israel and Zionism uh to gain attention. Mamdani came into power. All the DSA members are pushing into power. Are you pro-Israel? Are you anti-Israel? And it seems to be Tucker Carlson's doing that on the right as well. It becomes Judaism becomes a defining issue for political power around the world today. Both left and right are using it equally. It's a good dose of anti-Semitism from my perspective, uh manifesting itself in the political realm. But, final question, after everything we've discussed today, what do you think is the single most important important message you'd like to share with Christians, Jews, and people of all the faiths to understand about Judaism, the Jewish people, and our responsibility to one another? >> Yeah, I would, you know, turn back to Hebrew Bible, look at the Jewish scriptures, and I think it's widely understood in not only among Jews but among Christians as well, that we are living in a remarkable time. I live in Jerusalem, and on these streets walked a prophet, his name is Zephaniah, it's Zephaniah, and he preached um that one day, days are coming when all the nations speak in a pure speech, bisofa berura, and the whole world will be of one accord. We're looking forward to that remarkable moment. Right now, there's upheaval in the world as described in Ezekiel 39, but we are approaching a time when will all the nations will turn to the one God of Israel. We're looking forward to that moment. >> What does the world look like when all the people turn towards Jerusalem and towards the one God of Israel? >> So, the you know, even the United Nations I don't know if you're I don't know if our viewers are fans of the UN or not, but even the United Nations had the brains to put up the the Isaiah wall, exactly. 42nd Street and First Avenue, there's a wall which contains in it what will happen. That means that the Messiah spoken of, that he will rebuke the nations, the world, and what will happen as a result? Nations will take their implements of war, swords and spears, and they'll turn into plowshares and pruning hooks. Nations will used to go Nation will not learn of war anymore. So, therefore, that's the UN gets that, but Tucker Carlson somehow didn't figure out. The UN had the brains to put up Isaiah chapter 2, but somehow the former host of Crossfire totally forgot about it. And he wants a more Christian nation America. I rest my case. >> So, when all the world turns to the God of Israel, ultimately what you're saying is going to be peace in the world. >> Right. There are 27 wars raging in the world right now. Tucker is only focused on one of those wars, but there are 27 of them. But when the Messiah comes, all those tanks that are deployed in Ukraine and Russia and so on. And what's happening in North Africa, all of that will come to an end and all the nations of the world will worship the one true God. We're looking forward to that moment. >> Rabbi Singer, how do people follow you? Where are Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, people around the world? How do they find out about you and learn from your teachings? >> YouTube and just look at my name, Tovia Singer. >> Okay, wonderful. Rabbi Singer, thank you for joining us. 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