Christian Presses Rabbi Singer on Third Temple! Jesus, Paul & Donald Trump?

What happens after the third temple's built? What happens to Christians? So, people who say that [music] Jesus Christ is their Lord and Savior, they disagree with you theologically. In your mind, based upon your research, your understanding, uh, what happens to Christians that believe that Jesus Christ is their Lord and Savior? >> That's a softball. That's the [music] easiest question to answer when you hear Jesus or Paul. Obviously, Paul wrote 13 books of [music] the New Testament. Some say 14. uh Paul, Jesus, where does that fit in your brain? How do you feel about Paul and Jesus? Right. So, those are again softballs. Well, folks, on today's show, it's my honor and pleasure to enter to interview a guest by the name of Rabbi Tovia Singer. uh his podcasts, broadcasts and interviews are are prolific. And he talks a lot about uh what I believe to be the prophetic time piece that impacts everything. And that would be Israel, that would be Jerusalem, that would be the the third temple, that would be Mount Mariah, that would be uh there's so many topics. And this man goes deep on the Old Testament, on the Torah. Uh he also knows the New Testament despite not being a Christian. There's a lot we can talk about on today's show. Rabbi Tobia Singer, welcome on to the Thrive Time Show. How are you, sir? >> Doing great. Thank you for having me. >> So, I want to ask you first off, uh, I saw an interview. I'm going to look at my notes real quick here. I saw you do an interview a couple days ago where you had said that if you take 691 plus 1,335 years, that equals 2026. And that was powerful for me. Could you unpack that and explain what you were sharing on that particular podcast sir? >> Right. So these prophecies are not only powerful for us but they were so powerful for the God of Israel that he sent an angel and said Daniel shut this book. That's how the book of Daniel ends chapter 12. So, uh, I want to caution our viewers who are believers, who believe in the God of Israel, that we know we're in the time of the end by the events that are happening, the return of the Jews to their land, uh, the war with Iran, Jerusalem liberated, and we'll be talking about that, I'm sure, not calculations. However, we are given certain, there are very few of these in all of the corpus of the cannon of the Hebrew Bible, but Daniel is very famous for this. And this is how as we said Daniel ends. What comes to view in chapter 12 is Daniel is revealing the end times. In fact the end of the book of Daniel is all messianic. The key is what comes into view is Daniel is seeing a place that is the most holy place. However, it becomes desecrated and abomination is placed there. Now the most holy place on this planet is the uh the stone the foundation stone called the Evanga. It's from there the world was created. It's where the holy of holies was where Abraham bought his son Isaac as an offering. It is the holiest place on earth. Full stop. So we are told that there will be a an abomination. Now typically we might think of an abomination. You and I would think of well there's these places with statues in the Vatican or there's places with statues in India. No, what's happening is a supersessionism which means that the God of Israel is being supplanted by something else. And what's standing right above this foundation stone the most holy place is in fact the Dome of the Rock. In fact, hence his name and the Dome of the Rock was built by Arabs that conquered the land of Israel. Just a brief quick date, 636. Arab Islamic armies defeat the Byzantine Empire. Uh the Byzantine Empire, the Roman Empire surrenders to Islamic armies in 638. Jerusalem is now in the hands of the Arabs. And now they begin building this edifice right on top of the stone. How do they know where the stone was? Now the church fathers didn't think much of the temple mount. They wanted to be a place of garbage. But the key is that a Jew identified it where the stone is, where the holy of holies was, and it was cleared away in 688. The um the construction began. We know this from all sources, Jewish and Islamic sources. This is not this is a consensus and it was completed. Now we're going to be using the word the date of 691 and you'll see that's the consensus date. The it that's the correct date. There's only one tiny caveat and that is it's really the 72nd year of the Islamic calendar because the Islamic calendar is a lunar solar calendar. Um therefore and uh moreover we don't know when in 72 it was built. We just don't have that information. So we'll just say 691. It could be 692. The key point is now we turn to Daniel. Daniel tells us very clearly that from happy is the person who waits 1,335 years. Just so you know the end of Daniel very famous prophecies. A day is a year 70 weeks is 490 years. Just simple. So therefore, happy is a person that waits 1,335 years. And the previous passage is from the place that's the where the offerings were brought, the daily offering, the abomination and desolation. Well, 691 when the dock was completed, add 1335. That's 2026. Well, put a slash27 because as I said, we're not sure when in 72 in the Islam account's build. That's very critical. Why? Because we're watching all other events. It means everything is crisscrossing. Um there's a war going on now. And there are according to the US State Department, there are 27 wars that are raging in the world today. But you, the viewers, are very familiar with Iran and Israel. Why? There are other bloody wars. You're not familiar with what's going on in North Africa, but you know about this one because the Bible tells us that the Jews would return back to the land. Jerusalem would be liberated. However, nations will go to war with Israel and at the end of it all, Persia, what was once a very friendly empire, would go to war with Israel and um the enemy of Israel will be destroyed. So therefore crisscrossing every single line it all intersects where we are right now 2026 on the Goroan calendar. So follow-up question to this is the third temple has to be uh constructed and I've heard uh many uh people that would maybe uh Rabbi Aaron Circle he's said on podcast I believe I'm getting this quote right that the Messiah comes at the end of the process and then you'll often hear uh a Rabbi Circle and others talk about how we have to build this third temple or the third temple has to be constructed. Um could you talk about the third temple for those that are unaware of the third temple? They don't know what that means. What is the third temple? What is the significance of the third temple, sir? >> Well, this is huge. In fact, I these people are very important rabbis, but I I would like with your permission to to um to look at Rabbi Ezekiel, the prophet of blessed memory, because he tells us exactly the role of the Messiah and the final temple that will stand uh on in Jerusalem. I every one of our viewers is familiar with the Valley of Dry Bones chapter. That's Ezekiel 37. Just so the viewers understand because we'd like you to keep reading scripture when we're done. Ezekiel 34 to the N48 is all messianic. Full stop. In fact, there's no area of the Hebrew Bible that's richer in details, copious details about the end times than the end of the book of Ezekiel, the war of Gog. That's Ezekiel 38 and39. So this is right in the heat of it all. We are told explicitly Ezekiel 37:24 and 25. The Messiah there is called David. He's called the prince. That's key. The word Messiah is not used about the Messiah in the Hebrew Bible. He is anointed of course, but the key is he's the prince. He's David and he'll return and the Jewish people will be restored back to their land. 24 and 25. 26 27 20. That's the you don't have to even memorize this. The last five verses of Ezekiel 37. That's all you need to do. Just look at Rabbi Ezekiel because the scripture is what matters here. We told explicitly that your sanctuary built in your midst. This will be a covenant of peace, a worldwide knowledge of God. See Isaiah chapter 2 3 and 4. The knowledge of God uh will cover the world. Isaiah 11:9. As the water covers sea, the Messiah himself will rebuke the nations. They will end war and they will not uh learn of battle any longer. So we're told explicitly that the temple, your saints will be in your midst. There will be a world peace, a world knowledge of God, and that will be the covenant. And the most copious messianic prophecies in Tanakh are the design of the temple. And I I beg you, the viewer, to read it for yourself. Forget me. If you get I'm a rabbi. It doesn't matter. I pastor rabbi. It doesn't matter. We are very I'm an orthodox Jew. That's all. And we care about what does the rabbi prophet say. Ezekiel tells exactly what that temple will look like, its dimensions, how many windows, its courtyards. And if you go to any kind of place of worship, I want to warn you, and I'm taking a shot here, and I hope I don't offend anyone. If I do, I'm sorry. If you go to your synagogue, your church, your mosque, or whatever, and they tell you that's a spiritual temple, go back to the scripture. It's it's very clear. Don't allow people to tell you that kind of stuff. It's a very physical place. And here's the key. Why does this make a difference? Why does God's glory in our presence, why is that connected to Jerusalem and to that specific place? Why does it matter? And how would a building change anything? Okay, this is very critical. Why does Jew the return of the Jews to their land, Jerusalem in their hands, Zechariah 12, the building of a temple on Mount Mariah where the Holy of Holies is, why would that change flip everyone? I'll explain to you. You have to listen very carefully. Aside from approximately 80 to 100 million Christian Zionists around the world. So let's just assign that to 3% of the Christian world. So they're different. We could talk about them, but I'm going to remove them from the equation. The rest of the Christian world, let's just say the largest Christian denomination, the Roman Catholic Church. I'm talking not about individual Roman Catholics here. I'm talking about the Vatican itself. The church fathers all taught that this would never happen. Augustine, the most revered of them, the bishop of Hippo, declared that the Jews would never return and the Jews would always languish in exile, never return to Jerusalem because this was a sign that God was done with the Jews and the church was the only truth. He says this explicitly in his largest apologetic work, the city of God. This was the thinking of all the church fathers of chrysum ser of Jerusalem s of Alexandria Ignatius all of them why does this matter because they all said what's happening now can't couldn't happen so if you are part of what's called an apostolic church or you're part of the Roman Catholic church or the Greek Orthodox church those are not the only ones you actually believe that Augustine is you you can pray to him and through him. That means he that means I I'm I'm not a Christian as you mentioned but I just want to say this and without fear of Protestant Christians look up to Augustine as a person of great wisdom and theological reflection for sure Calvin did. That's but no Protestant prays to these people. They would never dare. They know that's idolatry and they don't believe these people had any inspiration at all. The hallmark of the Protestant move. I mean I'm a rabbi. Why am I but the hallmark is solar scriptor not solo church fathers. Thus when the Jews return to Jerusalem and build the temple the Catholic Church will understand that the Lord is God. The Orthodox church is worse. Why? Because it never even had a second Vatican council. Meaning it's more medieval. So they are flipped. Islam believes that God once chose the Jewish people. However, because they didn't accept Jesus/ Muhammad, they are Islam replaced them and they're the only truth. And that's what it says inside the Dome of the Rock. Laah, there's no Lord but the true, no God, but the true God. And Muhammad is his prophet, the Shahada. So the key is that therefore everybody flips on this point because all of Christendom again with the exception of Christian designers everyone gets what's about to happen and once we have the temple built everyone says 10 Gentiles will grab the shirt of a Jew and say take us with it because now we know God is with you. The temple turns everything over. I'm going to pull up on the screen. Uh again, just what I'm trying to do is educate our listeners today about what what Mount Mariah is, where it is. Just have some images here. This is Mount Mariah for anybody not familiar with it. It's about a 38 acre to 45 acre piece of land is my understanding. Um if you look here, you can go see the Earth Cam and you can watch the Western Wall live and you can see this. Uh walk us through how close are we to building? How close are we to seeing the third temple being constructed? And then when does the Messiah show up? How close are we to building the third temple? Or and then when does the Messiah uh show up? >> Let's be clear about this. I'm making up this number. I have no idea if this is accurate. There could be a thousand messianic passages in the Hebrew Bible. The Hebrew Bible has nearly 24,000 passages. whatever we only have about three that have any dates in it. So let's be very clear that it is in the view of Tanakh it's in the Hebrew Bible it's about events that occur in a sequence but how long those events take is not germanine to scripture with the exception we're talking about here. So we want to as people of faith we want to be very careful to be aligned with scripture. Tanakh doesn't talk this way. What the Hebrew Bible wants rather is a restoration. Well, all the nations will know that I am Lord. Read Ezekiel 39 verse 21. So when I said Ezekiel 39, you should be going, "Wow, I know what that is." Because that's gagumaga, that last war. We are told specifically that this war occurs so that the nations will see my glory and they will know that I am Lord. Verse 22, that Israel will know that I am Lord. So what's key is that it has to be a cycle of events. Have you ever been to a Passover seder? I don't know if you had uh okay at a Passover seder uh which we eat on the night of the 15th or many Christians that do go. The key is that each sequence of the events could take as long as it wants. It can go all night. The key is to get through all the sequences. God wants a mass repentance. See Isaiah 59:20. and the redeemer will come to Zion to those who repent in Jacob. So therefore, we are there. We know we're there because the the the Jews return Jerusalem. I can't say to you if it's going to h I I hope and I have a feeling that you share this hope. I have a confidence that you we all hope this will happen immediately. We want this long night to finally be over. Arise and shine for your light has come. Kings will go by your light. We want Isaiah 6 to happen now. But as it turns out, I'm not God's manager. I'm a salesman. So, we have to just look to scripture. All the events are happening now. And it's God wants the world to talk turn to the God of Israel. Whereas the the Exodus from Egypt was to redeem only a single nation, the children of Israel, my people. The messianic age is for the redemption of the world. That's a very big distinction. And that's where we're living right now. The place you're looking at uh is the Temple Mount. It's one of the largest uh man-made plateaus in the world. It's massive as you correctly pointed out and that place has been preserved. The while the there were many earthquakes that happened around Jerusalem and the Church of the Holy Supplr and the Dome of the Rock and Ela, they all collapsed during earthquakes. The Western Wall, you pointed to that and I'd like to comment on that. You could see it on your screen. The Western world has never come down. Our tradition is it can't come down. And I want to explain to your viewers why what you're looking at is very important. I I have a sense of confidence as your viewers are going why are we looking at a western wall that is after all a relic what is left over of 70 when the Roman Empire destroyed the second temple. That should just make us sad. It's a museum. Are we not? So here's what I'd like to share with you the viewer. When you look at the temple mount as you are which is soon going to have its temple uh and that temple will be sizewise if you see the dome of the rock it'll be the dome of the rock is onethird the height of what that temple will be. The key point is is that wall the western wall will be the first wall of the final messianic temple. That plateau will be the place where God's glory will be forever. Ezekiel tells us that sanctu stand forever more. So it is it is a reminder of the past as you point out of a temple that was destroyed. But it is also a signpost up ahead. This is where our future is. When does the Messiah get revealed? And again, I'm just going into this with complete ignorance. I I know there's somebody watching this who's hearing these concepts for the first time. I try to never miss a broadcast that you put out. I try to tune in and really get myself educated. But for people that are just hearing this for the first time, when is the is the Messiah revealed? Is this a a human? Is this a deity? Walk us through how this works there, sir. >> Yes. So again, we're going to appeal to the rabbis we love and trust. Isaiah in this case, Isaiah lived here where I live in Jerusalem. He preached 66 chapters walking down the streets where I walk down every day. He tells us about the Messiah. And I'm I know that we have a mixed viewership of Christians and Jewish people and people maybe of no faith. But Isaiah 11 is about the Messiah himself. We all know that. We're told he comes from a root of Jesse. Isaiah 11:2 and 3 tell us about him. He's called the branch. uh he's going to person with a person with the spirit of God will rest upon him and he will um judge among people not after the sight of his eyes but after the spirit that God places upon him and he will fear the Lord that's how Isaiah 11:2 ends he'll be filled with the fear of the Lord and verse three he'll be quickened which means he will be emanated with the spirit of of the fear of the Lord so he's not God he's of man as Ezekiel uh as he's described he is like excuse me Daniel chapter 7 famously one like a son of man he's not a son of man means he's mortal it doesn't mean means he he has a father it's very critical so he is someone who people will listen to Isaiah 2 verse 3 and 4 he will rebuke the nations everyone knows this is about the Messiah um as a result they will take their weapons swords and and spears and turn to plowshes and pruning hooks. The nations will stream to Jerusalem and takes a Zion will go forth the law and the word of God from Jerusalem explicitly. So the key point about the Messiah is that when he preaches, everyone will listen. When he teaches, everyone will be transformed. So what I would like to present to you is not like he's going to bring an ID card and with a fingerprint on it that's bio that has some sort of No, it's just the it's reverse. So it's not that when ants aggregate it causes humans to have picnics. It's the reverse. He will be the person that everyone will recognize at this critical moment is preaching because God places a spirit on he'll fear God. He will teach Torah. The United Nations doesn't like that. But Rabbi Isaiah does and therefore everyone will follow him because they'll recognize that he is the person who is a heir to the Davidic dynasty, a descendant of David and Solomon. One of the things that bothers me about interviews of people with they often interview each other of different faiths is there there tends to be an antagonistic uh spirit. And I tried to establish off camera and I'll continue doing that that that's not the spirit I have here. I want you to educate and I think a lot of people uh don't know of the signs. You know, you talk on your podcast often about the signs of all of these signs that are taking place that would indicate it's time to build the third temple. And uh many of our listeners are not aware of the signs and I'm not trying to paint you into a corner where that so that's not the spirit here. But could you share with us some of the the signs that are taking place that you could point to outside of Ezekiel chapter 38 where you could point to maybe you know the the greening of of Israel, the the vegetation on Israel or those kind of things just for people that are completely unaware of these signs of the times. I am sure many of our viewers are frightened of the book of Zechariah. And there's a good reason to be scared of the book. It begins with eight visions. They're not very difficult, but they're not very easy. And that scares people and they're they but as it turns out of the 14 chapters, chapter 12 is the easiest one. Is the no-brainer. You could pick it up right now, but start with verse one. You don't need any commentary. You know exactly what is happening. So, we're going to go to just Zechariah. Zechariah tells us the Jewish people must return to the land of Israel. Zechariah tells the nations will not be happy about that. Jerusalem will come into the hands of the Jews. Jerusalem verse three tells us will be a heavy burdensome stone to all nations who come against it. I need you the viewers to understand this very critical. The Jews must return. How long will it be? Hosea chapter 3 verse four and 5 tells it'll be a very long time. That's all he says. It'll be many days. That's hos um Hosea 3:4. A very long time. That's what we're told. And during that time, we won't have a king, prince, sacrifice, none of those thing until the end days and the restoration. So the return of the Jews must occur before the Messiah arrives. This just has to be. It's just clearly in the text. Now, God is going to take a people that are broken. In fact, in Isachiah 12, I want you to read that whole chapter in context. But well, I'm going to help you out here. Verse 7 and 8, even the weakest of them. Now, why would the Jews be a weakened people by this point? Because of what happened right before the state of Israel. We are told explicitly in Jeremiah chapter 30 verse 7. That's called Jacob's trouble. Whether you're Jewish or Christian, you know that passage that Jeremiah who lived and preached in this city looks into the future and says that there will be a day coming there will be a great tribulation Jacob is Yakov and there'll be nothing like it but from it will come a delivery and that's why Zechariah tells us. So these are all the precursor events that must occur. These are very clear. There's no poetry in the in the in these passages. There's no other way to interpret them. I mean, unless you, and I know this is going to be offensive, unless you go to an Orthodox church and the priest says, "Don't pay attention to it. We read the Old Testament through the church fathers." You then there's no hope for you. I'm being frank. So, you need to say, "I'm going to the Bible." If you're going to the church fathers, you're lost. I'm I want to be very straight with you. It says in Zechariah 12:7 that I will take the weakest of the Jewish people. They will be strengthened. They'll be like David, even like the angel of the Lord of hosts. So, we have explicitly that the people of Israel will be strengthened. Why? Because we're great? Because we're clever? No. Because God made a promise to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Jeremiah 30:3 tells explicitly the Jewish people must return back to the land. That's that same chapter of 30:7. It's Jacob show. So, these are the precursor events that leading up to it. Now, what we alluded to earlier, it's very important to understand. Persia is an ancient nation. The people there have more than six people who live in Iran today are Persians. In history, they have been friendly towards the Jews with a few hiccups. Whether it was the Persian Empire, the Cisanian Empire, that Ezekiel would say that the end of days, it would be Persia that goes to war with Israel doesn't make sense. Moreover, Israel and Persia are separated by a thousand, a little less than a thousand miles. That's the distance from New York to St. Louis. Okay. Wh how how does Persia go to war with Israel? Like there's all this place in between. But the God of Israel is speaking of that's how it is. So therefore, we're watching that in real time. And you have a a wonderful presence. And I I pray to God that he'll do the right thing now. And uh and that the people of Israel will rise to the occasion right now. We want this to happen quickly. That people should return and repent. And then the messianic prophecies once the Messiah comes and you asked me I'll list it quickly but it's Isaiah 11 Ezekiel 37 very clear and that is world peace we talked about that the in gathering the exile the Jews must return Isaiah 43:5 and 6 Ezekiel 37 the um the universal knowledge of God we talked about the knowledge of God covers the world with water covers sea the building of the temple that must happen and we're told the end of Ezekiel Now, I'm not going to pretend that I have more information than what the Bible says, but I I plead with you as I did earlier. 37 last three passages, 26, 27, 28, tells us that the time of the world peace will be the time that all the nations will know the truth will be the time that my sanctu will be in your midst. Read it for yourself. Now, it doesn't say this will happen, that will. They're all in that um in that cluster of three verses, just the end of 37. So therefore, I'm going to say that the Lord is in charge right now. Scriptures unfolding for our eyes. If I didn't know it, I think that Ezekiel was alive today and putting it in the text, but he lived two and a half thousand years ago and these holy oracles are eternal. And we are very fortunate, you and I, to be alive to witness this in in real time. You know, there's a a man I know by the name of James who came in to work and he was so excited when uh you guys were reporting live uh from Mount Mariah where you were blowing these chauffars on the uh top of Mount Mariah. And so I tuned in to your live broadcast. It was like in the middle of the night or something and you were there on Mount Mariah. You guys were blowing chauffears. There was a silver chauffear of some kind I believe or some kind of a and I and I was kind again kind of ignorant to some of the the traditions and some of the things you were doing but it seemed like this was the first time in maybe thousands of years that this has happened. Could you explain to our our listeners out there uh why those uh that want to see the third temple built like our like our friend James why they were so excited to see those chauffear being blown. >> Leviticus 23. So we're always going to be going to scripture and we want a plain text. So rasha the the first day of the seventh month is a day of trumpets. It's just very clear. Now for those who are not familiar with this will go what's the big deal of blowing a trumpet on temple mount. So those who know know that this would have it's not that it wouldn't be possible. It would be inconceivable five years ago. Just inconceivable. This is going to trouble many of our viewers around the world in that on the Temple Mount, if you want to go there, if you are not a Muslim, you can only go during certain times in the morning and around noon time. And those of you watching who are Jewish or Christian know that you weren't allowed to bring a Bible up there. If you came there and you brought a Bible to go on the Temple Mount, you were told you have to leave. you if you pulled out a Bible somehow I I'm sorry this is going to offend you but you would have been thrown in prison or the cops would have given you a war [snorts] it was it means if you're a Jew or Christian you can't go out a Muslim can I'm not doing this to be this is just simple the way it is but everything is spinning now very quickly so fast that none of us can keep track of it that people are praying on the temple mount the Jewish people are and they're blowing a chaver and trumpets well this is in scripture And it's happening now. And this just could not have happened earlier. But what's happening is God's glory is being um revealed to the world. And the events that are described in scripture are happening now. There's nothing odd about these practices. Nothing cultish. And you don't have to look at any Talmud or any kind of um esoteric literature. This is just on rashana. We blow a chauffear and there are trumpets. Whereas just a few years ago, if you were caught bringing a ramshour to Salman and blowing it, you would have been thrown in prison. Now, how could that happen? Israel is a democracy, a free country. It is. I I'll take 10 seconds because everyone asked this question. So, the Supreme Court ruled that anyone should be allowed to go. But the police are have said their position has always been that this is just such a provocation like a provocation that a Jew would pray on the holiest place on earth. The place where Abraham bought his son as an offering where our temple was. It's that's a pro. Could you imagine if in Missouri, in Kentucky, in California, someone said no Jews allowed? What? Like that's that would be inconceivable. Now this country there really is a democracy but we're a country that's it whatever the police wanted to just keep a status quo like a look I I don't want to create it just was unpleasant however everything has changed let's look forward everything has changed so therefore when you see people blowing a chauffeur on I imagine you will see because the festival of tabernacles is now upon us I don't know I'm just saying you are going to see uh an enormous witness on the temple mount with the uh palm branches there hundreds I don't know thousands but hundreds of it's something that was unimaginable so all that's happening now is what was what had been forbidden to Jews in the past is now permissible Jews were not allowed to do this during the time of the Ottoman Empire during any Islamic period in also I should say during the Christian period now when I talk about the Christian period I'm talking about the Byzantine Empire. These were not Christian Zionists. Um, Jews were not even allowed to live in Jerusalem. They were thrown out of Jerusalem in 326 by the Byzantine Empire. So, it's they weren't buddies either. But nevertheless, we what you are seeing now could have not occurred any time in roughly 2,000 years. And it's happening now. And the Bible says it would happen. Now, our mutual friend, uh, Pastor Dave Scarlet, I know you've appeared on his broadcast before with his glory. Uh, he's told me that there's this organization called the Temple, uh, Institute. And again, I'm going I'm ignorant about these things, so I'm pulling it up just trying to cite my sources and, uh, shoot it straight here. But the Temple Institute, according to Pastor Dave and then Pastor Phil Hodson Pillar and a handful of pastors that I know and respect, they've told me that the Temple Mount Institute has has everything prepared so that the third temple could be constructed in a matter of days if they were given approval. And I don't know if that's true. Don't know if it isn't. I'm also being told that Jared Kushner is negotiating or behind the scenes potentially uh for control over Mount Mariah because currently I believe Jordan has control over Mount Mariah. So, some people say, well, the third temple, I mean, how long would that take to build? Years. Uh, how long would it take to get control over Mount Mariah to actually build the third temple? Just want to get your thoughts on that. Um, how clo I mean, if if the word was given tomorrow, if the approval was given tomorrow to build the third temple, have you heard does is the third temple actually are all of the pieces ready to go to build this thing quickly? and and are you hearing anything about an attempt to uh gain control over the third temple from Jordan? >> Let's tease this out because a lot went on there. So, first I know nothing about uh the son-in-law of the president of the United States. Not that there isn't something I just not familiar with that at all. So, can't comment on that. Um the Temple Institute has a that means we have an altar that's ready to go. Um it's built in here. It's ready to go on Temple Mount. You technically do not need a temple for the in order for an altar to be placed there and sacrifices to be offered. This is very critical for those who know the Bible. And that is we're talking about now um Ezra chapter 3. When the second temple was built, they started bringing offerings. Ezra 3 verse 1 2 3 all the way through verse 8 and then the sanctuary is built. So we don't look believers do not look at Ezra and he which is really one book as a history book but rather it's a it's pointing us in the future. Um the temple mount I'm not their spokesman but I'm familiar with the organization. They have made not the unless there something going on I don't know about they have not made the stones of the third temple available but they have made as much a possible available so that we have as I said the altar we have the proper trumpets we have the priestly vestments just as they are in scripture and according to our tradition they have the trumpets they have that so what they've done is they're saying, "Look, Lord, we're going to go as far as we can on this one, and we're going to walk until the water is up to our nostrils." So, they've done that. I was fortunate enough to witness them building the um the Msbayak, the altar. You go, "What's the big deal about building an altar?" It's a huge deal. The stones has to be stones that no metals ever touched them. Don't ask how they were able to procure them. They could never been touched with metal. After all the everything in the temple is about a place of peace. They were cut with lasers. So it's that is ready to go. Ready to go. We have priests. I'm a priest which means that my great great grandfather was Aaron of blessed memory the brother of Moses. I'm a direct patrineal descendant. I don't know how many of there are of us in the world. So the following number I'm just like kind of making it up but to give you a kind of sense maybe there are maybe there are half a million of us in the world and I just made that up. I it's just like sizable but we are not only descendants of the of Levy Ley but we're descendants of Aaron specifically. So we have that mandate to carry out the functions in temple in Ezekiel 41-47 where we have the third temple very clearly there we have the restoration of the priesthood we have the restoration of sacrifices see um Ezekiel 45 verse 20 2122 we have all that so that's so however to my knowledge and I'm just going to just stop where I know I'm I'm not going to I'm not going to share anything. I don't know. The temple in does not have the like the full stones to go up to build the third temple. I'm not aware of any of that. Now, as far as Jordan goes, so there's an arrangement. So, Israel is in full control of the land of Israel from the river to the sea. And Jordan has no control over in a sense that they have no government to go except what happened is after the 67 war. So here Israel defeated its enemies. Jordan should have never gotten itself involved in that war. They did. And Judea, Samaria, which includes of course the old city of Jerusalem was all liberated. Mosha Dean who was the general, the head of defense, he was the head of the whole he wanted to come up with some sort of arrangement. So Jerusalem immediately is established as the as uh undivided capital of Israel that happens immediately after six day war it will come part of the constitution of Israel in 1980 which is rather significant. The key is that the a deal was made. It's this is very well known. This is not like I have some inside knowledge that the WAF, which is the Islamic police, they're just guys in suits. They're allowed to oversee the Temple Mount because after all, Islam, the Muslims claim the Doadra, their shrine, and Al Axa, their Mak. Now, the Al Axa is not over where the temple was all the way in the south. So because Muslims claim this is their holy site. So therefore they were given some sort of how do I say this? Some sort of ability to oversee the site. The only people that can come into contact with the on mount are Israeli police. Now Israeli police do are not decision makers. They follow the law and enforce the law and so on. So therefore Jordan has no sovereignty at all in Temple Mount. However, an arrangement that everyone should be have, they have their WAF, their religious police that oversee it. And if the WAFK would see as an example of a Jewish person doing something that they shouldn't be doing, so the person in the WAF who is would then go to an Israeli police officer and say that person can't be doing what he's doing. And then the Israeli police officer would have to call the shot and whatever. But is Israeli the Israeli government does have full control over it except the wafers are there. It's just an arrangement. >> Uh with President Trump who we've been honored to interview on our podcast and and Eric Trump's been on our podcast and so the Trump family has been a big part of this podcast. Uh President Trump has been very pro-Israel. Uh you know and so in doing that being very pro-Israel. Uh what role does President Trump have or not have as it relates to the building of the third temple? I've heard there's a third temple coin that has President Trump on one side of it and on the other side of it there's an image of the third temple. I've heard uh rumors and speculations, but what role does President Trump have or not have in helping to construct the third temple? >> He would not have any role unless it turned out he was Jewish and didn't realize it. Um but he has a he may have a very large role. So I'll construct this and what I'm saying will our viewers who are Christian Jewish will find we will understand everything I'm sharing with you. So as it turned out when the second temple was built remember what I said that we as the faithful don't look at Ezra Nhema as a a history book but rather it's a holy book as part of the cannon and it's not just telling about the past but it's instructions for the future. So this is very critical because how does Ezra begin? Hello. The book of Ezra begins with a non-Jewish king Cyrus giving a command and telling Jews they could return after the fall of the neoablonian Empire. This is very critical. So the Jews had been I mean the temple first temple was destroyed. Jews were sent into an exile and suddenly this person who is not Jewish. Cyrus the great the king of Persia tells the Jews go back and build Jerusalem and build a temple. I just will ask the viewer to read as in another example Isaiah 44:20 and Isaiah 45:1. You could also read Isaiah 45:13. Please read it for yourself. is explicit in the Hebrew Bible and it'll come up in your King James exactly as in fact Cyrus is called God's anointed Isaiah 45:1. So thus, so we have to be biblically very sound here and not engage in speculation. There could be something more that I'm not aware of and I'm happy to see something that's that I'll figure out. That's fine. But what we see very clearly in the Bible is they the Jews are expelled and it's a non-Jew who says to the Jews go back to Jerusalem. Trump tells the Jews we recognize Jerusalem and we as your capital undivided capital Jewish people and moving the US embassy to Jerusalem which is mind-blowing because former presidents many of whom our viewers will respect Reagan they all promised that they would do but they never did it. Trump did it. He actually moved it and he recognized Jerusalem. He recognizes Judea and Samaria. He recognizes so this now the reason Trump is well well 45 number 45 president. And if you heard me I didn't mention Isaiah 451 for nothing. So Isaiah 45:1 is about Cyrus, who's a non-Jewish king, who's enormously pro-Israel, who says to the Jews, go back and build it all up. And now what emerges is a president of the United States who is just we is a phoite. He is that way. His father, a blessed memory, was the same way. They're just the family just has a love for Jews. father uh donated money to build many synagogues. It's just the way the family is. He's very happy. His grandchildren are Jewish. So therefore, him saying to the Jews, Jerusalem is yours. Him saying, "Our embassy is there. The most powerful uh person on the planet, I mean, he's the president of the United States." Him doing that. So there are people who are wise and intuitive who say perhaps he is a Cyrus figure. And that's a reason thought. It's not like we have to believe it. You don't have to. But everyone is watching and going well this would be this would be compatible what Trump has done and he's no question there's no American president who's been a greater friend of Israel and there were many LBJ was a friend of Israel. He was a Democrat. It was interesting. Um that's not likely to happen again. Ronald Reagan was a there were but there's no nobody there's no parallel to Donald Trump and Trump is once in you know a thousand years there'll never be another Donald Trump so therefore it is compat is reasonable for someone to look at scripture to see Cyrus emerging and saying to Jews you go back now Cyrus doesn't build anything Cyrus is not building something but he's telling the Jews we recognize your building we recognize your temple we recognize Jerusalem as your capital. Uh that's what wakes people up. Now, I'm going to pull this up on the screen just so people can see this. They can look it up later. Um again, Fox News reported that an Israeli organization reveals a Trump coin, an expression of their gratitude. Um and this was reported by the mainstream media and it's a coin and on one side of it, you've got President Trump and on the other side it's got the third temple. And um again, I encourage everyone to look up that which you've discussed on today's um broadcast. What I want to do uh I don't want to paint you into a corner. We've got about 12 minutes left and so I want to go into kind of rapid fire mode and I'm going to ask you three questions that are going to really bother people how you answered I'm sure and I'm not going to debate, not going to argue. I just want to ask you three questions and get your thoughts on this. What happens after the third temple's built? What happens to Christians? So people who say that Jesus Christ is their Lord and Savior, they disagree with you theologically. in your mind based upon your research, your understanding, uh what happens to Christians that believe that Jesus Christ is their Lord and Savior? >> That's a softball. That's the easiest question to answer. There will only be one religion in the world. I'm using the word religion, although people don't like that word. It's it's very convenient. All the world will worship the one God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. There will not be any Christians. There will not be any Muslims in the world. That means all Christians, Muslims will turn back to the God of Israel. So there will be no divide in the world over faith. It's just very clear. There will be no Hinduism. There will be no Buddhism. I I just ask you the viewer, I know you don't want me to like water things down for some ecumenical reason. You don't need to hear dentist, you know, waiting room music. You want it straight. It's very clear in the Bible that the knowledge of God will cover the worlds of water cover the sea. Uh Zephaniah who lived here in Jerusalem as well chapter 3:9 all the nations speak of a pure speech of one accord. So they will if you're thinking about the after Messiah comes there will be Christianity and Islam and so they won't be all the nations of the world will worship the God of Israel alone and no one else. The Messiah is going is the heir to the Davidic throne and all the nations will recognize it. Trump. America's divided. I'm not an expert in politics. Some people like him, some people hate him. The Messiah, everyone will like him. See Daniel 7:14. So that's very easy. There'll only be one faith. What would happen to those that oppose this Messiah? >> Oh, that's also a softball. I hope the last one is also as easy. So those who go I want to just they will be turned around. I want to be as generous here as we want as Orthodox Jews. We want the world to repent. I want to be very clear about that. We want all the nations to recognize the God of Israel, to worship him, to swear in his name alone, to bend their knee to him alone. I want to just uh marshall scripture. However, those nations that go to war with Israel at the end of the day, so I'm just want to move that to very clear language. Says it won't be opposed. Those who go to war with us will be utterly destroyed. It's so it'll be such they'll be so aviscerated that the animals of vultures and will be eating off their bodies and blood for years. Read Ezekiel 39, but instead of we went to 21 earlier, just back it up to Ezekiel 39:17, 189, 199. They'll be utterly destroyed. But again, we are prayerfully uh waiting and wanting and are a light to the nations that all the nations would repent and they'll worship the God of Israel alone and they will not bend their knee to anyone else. That will happen. So Tanakh is clear that the enemies of Israel will be utterly destroyed. I'm going to do two questions because you're like the Babe Ruth of these softballs. You're just hitting home runs. You're going So I'm going to go two two questions here. Um, the Noah Hyde Congress is coming up. Uh, there's a Noah Hyde Congress. I'll put it up on the screen. I don't think most people know about this. Uh, again, I'm a little bit uh uh all I know about is the things I hear are referenced on your podcast and others, but there's a Noah Hide Congress taking place, I believe, November 2nd uh through the 6th or something like that. I'll put a link to the website so people can see it. The Noahide World Center. It's taking place November 2nd through the 6th in Jerusalem um at the Seven Arches Hotel and they're discussing these international Noahide laws. First international congress of noahhides. What are the what are the noahide laws or what is the first international what is I guess what's the significance of this gathering there sir? >> So I know the word no you can throw off our viewers and don't be afraid of it. It just means people who are pious and worship the one true God and Keeb the Noahide laws which means are preatic laws meaning I just need to explain this the Torah was given at Mount Zion in the year 20448 after creation well were there any laws prior to the Jews receiving a Torah we see it openly in the Bible I mean Cain was punished by God for committing murder okay well what did he do wrong if there was no no law of not to murder theft left uh immorality. Why was there a flood when when Abraham uh was bargaining with God in Genesis 18 and said, "Maybe there are 50 righteous people in these cities that will be destroyed." What did he mean? These were the Nokai laws. And you as Christians should know these Nokai laws because they come up in Acts chapter 15. Now, Acts is a holy book to Christians, not to me. But in Acts 15, it's an ecumenical council and they're trying to solve what do you do with non-Jews? They're told that well if they just keep these laws like not no idolatry, no eating meat that's offered up to idols, no strangled animals, no murder, theft. So it's all there. Christians should know this stuff. It's just the word no is an anacronism. Now I'll explain what it is. That means that Judaism is a universal faith. However, there are people who uh are the children of Israel, which means we are descendants of Amar, Isaac, and Jacob. and our faith is the faith of Israel. So we're an ethnore religious group. There are people however who believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, but are not members of the children of Israel. They're just not sense to the best of their knowledge. They would consider themselves Noahites. But noite means the followers of Noah. And the word is an anacronism. So therefore, a person who's a Noite is saying that the faith of Israel. I'm using the word Judaism. That's not in the Bible really. It kind of is, but we're not going to go into it because I don't want to break on a word. But the key is we're going to use conventional language and that is they're saying that the faith of Israel is my faith. Judaism, what is now known convention as Judaism is my faith. How I'm not a descendant of Abra Jacob. Therefore, I'm not obligated to keep Sabbath. I don't obligate to keep kosher. There are many Nokites who do keep kosher. That's their prerogative. It's voluntary. So these seven Nokai laws are in the Bible in scripture. the priest addatic and one may I one caveat it's not really seven no laws for each like the law against immorality well who am I not allowed to be with there are 11 relationships that are forbidden to no like your mother your father your sister brother and so on animal beastial all that so these are there really about a hundred commandments that are into seven categories of laws that's all so they are worship the god of Israel >> with as an Orthodox Jewish uh is that being that that's your faith. What are the books that you perceive to be relevant to your faith? We we have the Torah. I hear about the Torah. I hear about the the Zohar. I hear about the Talmud. I I again I'm ignorant to these things. Could you tell us what what books because I hear often people will reference Cabala or Zohar or Talmud or uh you know then the Torah. Can you tell us what what books or source materials are are relevant to you as an Orthodox Jew there, sir? >> Sure. So, the the part that all our viewers will insin what are called the 39 books of the Hebrew Bible. Tanakh, that's a great word. Torah, Naveim, and Sulum. So, that is our cannon locked shut. Not the book of Mcabes, not Job, Jubilee, not Tob, none of those books with the apocry which the Catholic Church embraces dud canonical all that stuff is not the word of God. Is the book of Mcabes useful historically? Sure it is. But it's just not a holy book. It's not the word of God. The Talm is a totally different kind of work and that is it records oral law. And then for those of you who are lawyers, you'll really enjoy this. It then goes in. So the tot is huge. is the I think the largest work of the ancient world. So what it has is it has it's filled with case law which means the Bible says that this is what happens to a murderer. This is what happens if you steal how well what is the extreme end of those law where do they terminate like driving a car what is exactly the minimum vision you need to operate a motor vehicle without glasses well it's 2040 in your state I'm sure but how do you work that out so the is then engaging in case law and is examining the oral Torah so Christians who authored the Christian Bible they were very familiar that the Pharisees now the word Pharisee is an anacronism. Um it it's the word Pharisee and the term Orthodox Jew. So that term Orthodox Jew was invented about 1800. So but they're the same. That's the key. So you notice in your Christian Bible, Matthew 23 verse 1, 2, and 3. It says the Pharisees sit in the seat of Moses. Whatever they tell you, follow because they believe in the written oral Torah. Now that chapter is a hostile witness. It says do as they say but not what they do. But the authors of the Christian Bible knew about the oral to. So the toal would records the oral is very well known to the world in terms of wearing felactories. The earliest mention of that is in the Christian Bible in Matthew 23 as an example. So it is case law kabala just means a word to what is received receive wisdom and knowledge from the ancient world. In fact we have you're familiar with the dead sea scrolls. Among the Dead Sea Scrolls we have a lot of kind of literature. We also have felacttories that are there. Wow, look at that. So, felactories that are mentioned in the Christian Bible are in from are in the Dead Sea Scroll and you can go to the Israel Museum and anyone could view them in the Shride of the Book. So, all that is in the Cabala. The Zor is a commentary on the Torah helps us understand it in a more penetrative way. It just means the word Cabala means this which has been received, which has been understood. And so the but the canon is Tanakh the Hebrew Bible we call 24 books and that's okay and and Christians refer to as 39 books because Christians would divide first to second Samuel. They're not supposed to be divided and Christian scholars know that first 2 Samuel is really one book. So it's 24 books that are now colloially in 39 books. This is the word of God. It's immutable. It's eternal. It's forever. you know, I I would interview you for hours uh and I want to respect your time and so I just have a bonus question I want to sneak in again. I just and again I want to give you the final word and let you end how you want or tell people about where they can follow you. So I want to give you the final word. Um for anybody who hasn't listened to your podcast and I have, could you describe your take on who uh Paul was and who Jesus was as it relates to you? Like how do you when you hear Jesus or Paul obviously Paul wrote 13 books of the New Testament some say 14 uh Paul Jesus where does that fit in your brain how do you feel about Paul and Jesus >> right so those are again softballs in that Jesus didn't write anything we have absolutely nothing even in Christians we have nothing that he wrote so it's anybody's get the guess The question which I think Christians would agree with is is Jesus compatible with the Hebrew Bible as the Messiah? If he is, we should accept him and if he's not, we should not want anything to do with that. But he didn't write anything. So I can't tell you about the historical Jesus. But I can say this, if I read the prophecies of Isaiah that tells about the in gathering exile, the building of the temple, world peace, universal knowledge of God. So there's nothing in the first century that occurred that's compatible with that. In fact, um the events that occurred in the first century are essentially a wrecking what a wrecking ball is to an architect. It destroyed everything. The Jews were expelled. The temple was destroyed. The knowledge of God was limited. So Jesus so who the historical Jesus is is I we can guess but all Christians would agree with the following point and that is if Jesus is not the Messiah, it doesn't matter who he was. Doesn't matter if he was a carpenter, Mark 6 or not. It doesn't matter if he was a plumber. It only matters if he's the Messiah, we should accept him. He's not the Messiah. He's not. But we go to Isaiah and Ezekiel for that answer. Paul is the easy one. You pointed out correctly. The 13 letters that are are ascribed to him. I think it pretty much locked up that Hebrews is not written by Paul. What Paul was is a synchronizer. He was synchronizing middle platonic neoplatonic thinking with with Judaism. And therefore, there's a lot of Greek in there. And therefore, there are ideas that are not compatible with the Hebrew Bible. He encouraged people not to keep law. That's a tragedy. Colossians 2:16. So there it all is. Paul's easy because he wrote a lot. My name is Tovia Singer and people can find me on YouTube and I hope our viewers would always just look to scripture for these answers. >> I'm going to pull up your YouTube channel so people can get a nice look at it there. This is the uh YouTube channel. This is where I go to hear your work and you do other interviews often. Uh sir, I really do appreciate your time, uh your energy, your research. Uh I just appreciate you and uh uh I know James, my friend, is excited that we interviewed you. So uh can I can you give a shout out to James? Is that possible? >> Yes, brother James. It's very it's wonderful to do this because here I am. It's in the middle of the night here in Jerusalem and God's glory is being revealed. All the nations are coming to the God of Israel. And may God uh strengthen you and just give you wisdom and understanding. May we all all of us, you, James, myself, be here in Jerusalem to welcome the true Messiah quickly in our time. Thank you so much for having what I thoroughly enjoyed this conversation. If you enjoyed this program, please like and subscribe. I don't know. I share my love. [music] [singing] [music]