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"כבוד הרב, פגשתי את ישו!" – בואו תראו איך הגיב הרב טוביה סינגר
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Yes, I can hear you.
>> Okay, you're live on the air. Go ahead
and present your question to the Rabbi.
Sorry, I don't mean to laugh, but just I
don't know what happened.
>> Tovia Singer, um I was wondering what
you would say to somebody who's
who's had a personal meeting with Jesus
himself.
>> Like they saw them with their own eyes,
heard them like Moses heard God speaking
audibly. Yeah, yeah. That's crazy. Yeah.
I think they're on mushrooms.
Sorry.
>> No, I wasn't on any drugs.
>> I was just kidding.
>> And I would like to explain to you
exactly what happened.
>> Oh, please do.
I would like to hear it, Rabbi. Let him
hear it. I'm I'm going to hear this
screen.
>> Sure, of course.
>> Okay, so what happened? It was uh
Shavuot
>> So this happened to you?
>> and
>> Did this happen to you?
>> I was
This happened to me.
>> Oh, cool. Okay, this is getting better.
Go ahead.
>> Yeah, Shavuot one Sunday
and I was walking up to a church
and I see a bride and a groom.
And this person looks like he's on fire.
Like I I just didn't know what was going
on with him. So I said said I'm going to
go check this out.
And
I walk up to him. He says, "Do you
believe in Jesus? You believe in
Yeshua?"
And I shook his hand
and then his face shines like the sun.
His eyes turn like rays of
rays of the sun, but blue
and everything just turns blue and his
face is shining with light. All his
facial features are completely perfect.
And like I'm lifted up by the Holy
Spirit and it's incredibly powerful.
More powerful than anything I've felt in
my life. Like dynamite. Just it was it
was amazing.
And
>> This was a
>> smelled like a alcoholic perfume.
>> Was this a dream you had? Seriously, a
dream or a vision or what?
>> No, this was a trance I went into when I
was at church on one Pentecost on
Shavuot.
>> So, you were in church when this
happened and sitting in the sitting in
the
>> No, not inside. I was outside in the
parking lot.
>> Oh, while you were awake but a trance.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay.
>> What's very striking is
that this must have had an an enormous
impact on you the way you're describing.
But as it turns out, uh people are
having trances of
um
gods or sometimes people they love
um in different parts of the world and
interestingly
it is if someone grew up in India, they
are the trances that they're likely to
have are different
uh geographically than the trances
people are likely to have in in in North
America
cuz in India people are having trances
and not only trances are people in India
that actually meet Hari Krishna that
actually
encounter Vishnu, actually encounter
the monkey god Hanuman.
No trance necessary.
And isn't that odd? Isn't it odd that is
Islamic countries,
uh people there as you can probably
guess are having um
visions of encountering the companions
of the prophet Muhammad.
And so it's it's a striking
uh that in Brazil and the Philippines
people are having trances or actually
seeing that means they're not having
non-veridical experiences as you
described they're actually having
veridical experiences and right where
you would expect to have them. It's like
somehow Mary knows to appear in the
Philippines, in Portugal, Spain, São
Paulo, in Rio, in Buenos Aires. She, for
whatever reason, does not appear to
people in Kuwait
or in Saudi Arabia.
How strange. Well, the reason is it's
obvious that people are producing
these thoughts
and we we believe thoroughly
that if we have to choose between the
God of Israel or a personal
dream trance
whatever it is and it's but it's
something metaphysical
we are always going to choose the God of
Israel and choose Moses. This is
actually addressed in Tanakh many times.
One of the places in Jeremiah 29:8-9
and the problem the context is that
there were false prophets then who were
saying to the Jews, these were Jewish
religious Jews, but they was telling the
Jews that we have prophecy that the Jews
should go to war with the Babylonian
empire.
And Jeremiah was tell warning them not
to do that and don't listen to these
people, they're false prophets.
This [snorts] issue of false prophets
who are doing miracles is so huge that
the word I'm going to say this
that the word false
appears more frequently in the book of
Jeremiah than any other book in Tanakh.
Okay? I know people are looking it up
right now and I welcome when do it. I
don't have it in front of me, but I'm
pretty sure if you So, the word in
Hebrew for false is sheqer. Okay? Shin
shin kuf resh sheqer. So,
common word.
So, you could see false is really
important in one of these books in the
Bible. Okay?
So, and now, given that context that
Jeremiah is dealing with false prophets
and false teachings and for false
scribes who people who completely
mis- misappropriate
Jeremiah 8:8-9.
It's the most misquoted verse. Muslims
misquote it, Christians misquote it.
Don't ask. It's a nightmare. But really
it's referring to people who are writing
down false books. Scribes are writing
false books and teaching false things
that most importantly go to war with
Babylon. Jeremiah says, "Don't go to war
with Babylon. If you do, Babylon will
destroy you." And Jeremiah was proven
correct. Okay?
So, there is a case where people come to
Jeremiah
and say pretty much what you're saying.
And that is
that we're I'm paraphrasing here,
Jeremiah 29:8-9.
Um that we're having dreams about this.
And Jeremiah says, "Don't listen to your
dreams. You are causing yourself to have
these dreams.
These are internal
thoughts and you're dreaming them and
it's not from God. And we don't follow
dreams. So, I will I will concede to you
just straight away
that if we have a a trance-like dream,
not sure what that means exactly,
whatever that means, but it's a trance.
It's not like you walked into and it was
veridical, meaning you actually saw a
guy with the blue eyes, with the whole
thing. It was a trance. So, I might as
well know that
Native American Indians, so they went
into these trances and had all kinds of
ecstatic visions, and we have a lot of
literature on this. We have this in all
religions, and all these religions can't
all be true. I'm not going to pretend to
tell you that there was Satan, the
devil, that it was I'm not going to be
arrogant. I don't I don't know I don't
know. I mean, there's a wide range of
guesses of how this can happen, but
guess what?
15%
of mentally healthy people, healthy
people
have hallucinations. 15%
of healthy people will have a
hallucination during their lifetime.
And that hallucination will be about a
holy person or relative.
That's just the way it works. We don't
operate that way. We have Deuteronomy
chapter 13,
which tells us if a dream or dream comes
to you, sign wonder, don't listen to
dream the sign wonder, I didn't say it.
So,
the reason we have a Torah is that's our
guardrail.
Otherwise, what do you need a Torah for?
Just pray, wait for a vision, and see
what it's told. We don't function that
way. We don't operate that way. We go to
the scripture, and we say, "What does
Tanakh tell us?" And that's what we
follow, nothing else. And if someone
else tells you that he meant
How look, I remember this in Indonesia.
I'm not going to go through it cuz I
don't want to I want to give time for
another call at a
call in. But I remember in Indonesia,
there was a big, big, big preacher that
died
in
in 20 16.
In March of 2016, he was the He was
called Peter the Great, and everyone was
having He was coming to everybody with
visions. Actually, not everybody was a
lot of women.
So, people shouldn't worry about
converting to Christianity cuz some lady
in
in in in
Balak Balan had a vision of the period
right. No, I'm not going to do that.
That's the end of the end. There is the
Torah is the canon is the measuring read
for truth and everything else is
measured in light of Tanakh. And again,
I think people have to answer the
question, why is it why is it so
geographically dependent? Why is it that
in the Islamic world people have visions
of the companions of Muhammad, whatever,
blah blah blah. And in India people have
it in a Hindu context in in the
Christian countries in a Christian
context, you'll know the answer. It's
not because these God that Jesus can't
appear to people who are the natives in
Canada who've been there for a few
thousand years. No, reason it's not part
of their world so it would never have
chances about it.
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