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השאלה מהקהל שתפסה את הרב סינגר לא מוכן!

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Why is it impossible that can take on a human to form like Jesus for example? >> If God is omnipotent meaning if God is all powerful why can he not come as a human being. So the reason the clear transparent Ian's answer would have to be what would have to be it has to say in Tanakh that God is not a man right I mean if we don't want to engage in some sort of philosophical metaphysical conversation and try to outdo each other what we would look for is does the Torah or the prophets or the writings have anything to say about this topic because that's what will be most persuasive to a Christian cuz Christians really do. They really do. I want a steelman. They really believe is the word of God. So, it's very easy to engage with them. Well, you're writing. This is a time to pick up your pen. Numbers 23:9 explicitly says, "God is not a man that he should lie. He's not a mortal that he'll change his mind." 1 Samuel 15 verse I'll slow it down. Verse 29. 1 Samuel 15:29. for the glory of Israel does not like because he's not a man that'll change his mind. Hosea 11:9 expertly said tells us you can't worship anything that flies above below it's not me. Now we are all created in the image of God. Right? You are children of the Lord your God. Deuteronomy chapter 14 verse1. So all children of Hashem are created in the image of God. Well this is true. Christians incidentally are stuck with a problem and that is the earliest Christians who composed the Christian Bible did not believe that Jesus was God. That was a later Christian invention and that's transparent. So it's very easy to even look at the Christian Bible and we see that clearly that whoever wrote it did not think Jesus was God. That was a much later development. The word Trinity was invented by a I'm going to call him a theologian. Um right at the beginning of the 3rd century Tertullian was his name. His home Carthage. He invented the word trinity in about the year 200. It's amazing thing you know like what good thing can come from Africa. So because all desire comes from there all of it all of that all that stuff is all Carthage and Alexandria all the avoid desire comes from there. So at the time when that tuma is expanding the mission is being recorded by rahudosi in the northern part of it's like the tuma and the kaduca are both rising at the exact same. So he invents the word trinity. He doesn't even believe in it. Incidentally he believes that Jesus was created and not eternally divine. I'm not kidding. That's why I said I was about to say church father but they didn't allow him to be a church father because he himself is a heretic. and was Christians were arguing over what does it mean that he is God? Is he generated by God? He's a son. What does it mean to even be a son? If God is the father and he's the son, what does those words even mean? You have a father. I could say with certainty that there was a point in time when your father existed and you did not exist. It's transparent. So using the term father and son conveys that the son is not eternal. that the sun must have been created and generated. So this is a big war exploding in the empire which had become Christian the 4th century and Constantine who we talked about earlier converts to Christianity and he sees there's a fight in the empire among Christians of what do we believe exactly and they he convenes the council I see in 3:25 and there they voted on the nature of doctrine trinity I'm not okay it's a vote and the guys who said that Jesus was co-eternal, very light of very light, equal with the father. They won and the other guys lost and had to run for their lives and that was it. Now the church still had many problems with this. It goes on, you'll go on chat or whatever your rebi is on your cell phone, you'll look at but it goes on to Constantinople. They're still trying to refine it. It is opposed by the prophets of Israel and therefore is false. means Tanakh is our guard rail. It's our tennis net. That's why we we can't deviate from it. That's why we can false. >> But can't can't the words just or says that God is automatic. Can't that just be defining God's divinity instead of it's like limiting his power cuz it also does say um and I think this in this uh >> I'm not sure where it says it sound like it said man that's obviously metaphorical but like that can it's just a a metaphor but it's it says it clearly says it and Good question. The Torah says explicitly, Hashem is Exodus 15. So it says that what is Hashem is mean? God is a what does ish mean? >> That's the whole predicate foundation of your question. But as it turns, this is a very good question. I apologize I always answer it. But as it turns out, it's not correct because the way Christians marshall Exodus 15:3 is that they it's it's a fallacy of restricting a word to having one possible meaning, which is exactly what they have to do, saying ish only means man, and then say, "Aha, you see, God is a man of war." Okay, that's how the argument runs. But it's a complete fallacy and is a it's an ad hoc fallacy of restricting a word to have only one possible meaning. That's the whole foundation. But it turns completely incorrect. The word ish can definitely mean a man in biblical Hebrew. It can also mean a husband. It can also doesn't mean a man at all, but it means be a master. And that's what's meant in Exodus 15. I'll give you a let me just finish the thought and I'm all open to everybody. So, I'll give you an example. Get your pen out. [laughter] First Kings chapter 2. Our conversation is between David and King Solomon. David is dying in the beginning of Maloim. That's how it begins. David is on his deathbed and there's a whole um problem of who's going to take over for him. But it's ultimately solved and Solomon is now anointed to be king after his father. And David turns to his son and says, "You now have to be an ish." Well, it means there that you have to be a master. And it's interesting that means you have to take control. You have to be a mench. You have to be. So the word ish can mean someone who is a kind of a master or may say abalabus. So therefore, Hashem is the English translation, even the Christian ones are correct. Usually they will render it, God is a master of war. So therefore, the claim collapses. Now, it's I think it's important to know that Christians don't claim that Jesus' physical body was God. Meaning, if I were to ask a Christian, was Jesus's kidneys, bladder, and liver literally God created the heavens and the earth? they would say no that would be idolatry to them. So it doesn't it doesn't work at all. And moreover in the Christian Bible we are told I don't believe this is historical but let's say I considered everything. We are told Jesus says that the father is greater than I am. John 14. The Christian Bible has Jesus saying that you God are the only true God and I am just the messenger that you sent. I could do nothing of my own but only the one who sent me. John 5 19 and verse 30. So as far as the book of John goes and I'm I'm marshalling the fourth gospel because that contains the highest christologology among the gospels. Even there he's completely subordinate to the father. It's a later Christian invention and [snorts] using the argument of that it says Hashem is a fallacy by saying I'm only going to allow the word ish to be rendered as a as a man Y chromosome rather than a whole few things are there and and that's why it's when you watch Christians do this you have to really pay careful attention what's going on. It's like watching if they're good. You're watching maybe David Blaine. You're trying to I know he's not floating, right? And I know the law the the laws of thermodynamics are not being suspended in favor of my entertainment, so he's not doing magic. So there's an explanation for it. Okay? So always know that they usually are like watching a 9-year-old do a magic show where you you know immediately what's going wrong, but you just look it up. It's very easy. I always tell my viewers, look it up for yourself. If you enjoyed this program, please like and subscribe. [music] >> [singing]