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הנצרות טוענת שישו הוא אלוהים... הרב סינגר משיב אש
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The writers of the New Testament did not
believe that Jesus was God.
There's a zero places in the Christian
Bible where Jesus says, "I am God." He
never says that. Conversely, he says
that the Father is greater than I am,
John 14.
He says, "I can do nothing of my own,
but only the one who sent me." John
chapter 5,
verse 30. This is eternal life they may
know thee. This is I should give you the
context. This is the longest discourse
in the entire New Testament. It's called
the farewell discourse, which extends
from John
uh 13 to John
17.
This is eternal life they know you, the
only true God, and Jesus Christ, who you
sent. He says to Mary in John chapter
20, when she wants to hold him, she
says, "Don't touch me cuz I have not
ascended to
to to my God or your God." He clearly is
making that distinction. We have a zero
places in the Christian Bible where
Jesus says, "I am God." That is a later
development of the church. It's not that
late, which means Ignatius is already is
declaring that Jesus is God, and then
all hell breaks loose,
pun intended,
how that's possible, cuz if Jesus is God
and
the Father is God, then you have two
gods. So, the church is going to try to
solve this.
And the person who coined the term
Trinity is Tertullian,
a a thinker from Carthage, who invented
and he doesn't believe in it. He
believes that Jesus was created. So,
actually says no in the Christian Bible
that Jesus is God. It explicitly in the
New Testament says that Jesus only does
He says, "God, why did you forsake me?"
What do you mean?
That's called a cry of dereliction. Now,
it's actually it's a copy paste from
Psalm 22. King David is saying that,
speaking about himself. He felt alone.
And he said, "I feel forsaken." And if
you study David's life,
every everybody close to him betrayed
him. His wife, his father-in-law, his
best friend, and he felt alone in the
world. So, they have Jesus there, but
what who's he talking to?
Did he mean it? Is it rhetorical? What
do you So, it's very very clear, and
only thing Christians can do is infer
from some text that this means the
Trinity. And And in fact, I'll tell you
crazy thing if I'm I don't know how much
you want.
So,
there is one passage in the Christian
Bible, in the in the First Epistle of
John. That's not the Book of John, but
the First Epistle of John, chapter 5,
verse 7, where you have the doctrine of
the Trinity.
But, it was a later invention. It wasn't
originally there. It was interpolated
later. It was invented by in the 8th
century, and Erasmus,
who was a
really a brilliant scholar. He's the
first person to ever publish the New
Testament in the early 16th century,
very early, 1516.
He's going through all the Greek
manuscripts. We talked about Reuchlin
supplies six of them. He's going to
Basel to look at manuscripts, and they
wanted to Who's going to get it out
first? So, it was a race. But, he
notices that 1 John 5:7, that these
three are one, is not any Greek
manuscript. He leaves it out.
All hell breaks loose in the church.
Why'd you leave it out? You must be a
secret Unitarian. So, it's not in the
Christian Bible. It's a later Christian
invention, and it develops. And as it
turns out, throughout all the councils
of the church, Nicaea,
Ephesus, all of them, they all are
fighting over the issue of what is the
nature of Jesus. And the church The
Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church
to this day doesn't agree on the
doctrine of the Trinity. You can just I
don't Do you want me to explain more?
>> I I was just trying to say from a
Messianic's perspective.
>> They're all They're all Christians. So,
we you can
>> you're saying, but they'll claim he's
not God, he's a prophet.
>> No, they won't. Oh, there are Unitarian
Messianics.
>> Right.
>> They're all just Remember what I said to
you, this is like the first thing. Just
as the church has a wide It's the most
variegated religion on the planet by
far. So, there is a Unitarian movement
among Christians that do not believe in
the doctrine of the Trinity. And those
of you who watch me see me do shows with
Unitarian scholars. Like Tuggy. I mean,
these are guys who really know their
stuff, okay? They do not believe in the
Trinity at all. They
Now, there're not that many of them.
Let's say there're 5 million of them.
Maybe there're 1/2 million
Christadelphians. Let's say there're 6
million Unitarians that don't believe in
it all. The J Witnesses don't believe in
it at all. So, therefore, in
corresponding to that
there are Unitarian Messianics. But be
very careful because many of you say I
don't believe in the Trinity
but it's but they believe that Jesus was
God and they believe in a modalism or a
Sabellianism.
I don't want to overload you. So, in the
church they tried to solve this with and
there were many that were considered
heresies. So, they'll adopt that. So,
you got to say nice push. So, you're
saying this is how you would do it.
You're saying there was a point time the
Father existed and the Son did not exist
and he's created.
If he if that person who I don't know
says yes, so that person is a real
Unitarian. That person's
means he's a created being, he's not
God. They're
>> But
well, is that is that a viable approach
to say that there can be a Unitarian
thing mixed with or
in compliance with Torah?
Cuz you said Halakha also doesn't
doesn't comply with the New Testament.
Then we read it you know, you quoted
Paul before.
>> Right. So then it is then that iteration
of Christianity, which is Unitarian
Christianity, is not Avodah Zarah. It's
not idolatry. That's where the
difference is. But should someone
believe that an innocent person died for
the sins of the wicked? Of course not.
Should someone Should a non-Jew,
claiming Hashem, should believe that the
mitzvahs are temporal, which openly Paul
says all over the place? Of course not.
It's not good for them. So there's two
questions here. There's one a legal
question. And that is So technically in
Halakha, in Jewish law, we, you and I,
would be allowed to walk into a
Unitarian church, just like we are
allowed to walk into a mosque.
>> He
>> Now, both of us would not walk into a
Unitarian church, I would imagine, or we
would No, because we don't want people
wouldn't understand that. I've been
invited to lecture many Unitarian
churches, I turned them down.
Cuz people will not hop, and it I don't
want people to be
to misunderstood. So in Halakha, there
is a distinction, which really has
consequences.
Really there are big consequences in
Halakha if someone worships Avodah Zarah
or not. Big consequences. There are. But
no non-Jew should believe that a
innocent man died for the sins of the
wicked. They should rather believe in
the truth, that there's one Hashem that
loves us and forgives us through his
mercy. So I I didn't used to think this
way. As a kid, I grew up with a lot of
anti-Semitism. I don't know if you did,
but I did. And I really didn't care what
non-Jews believed. I didn't like them. I
didn't like them as a kid cuz in
Brooklyn, they all wanted to kill me. I
mean, you just did not walk past a night
a nice I never met nice non-Jews as a
child. I was born 15 years after the
Holocaust. I thought they were insane. I
changed my view 180 degrees because I
eventually met wonderful Christians. So,
I didn't care when I was a kid, but now
if a Unitarian would ask me, you can
watch my shows with Unitarian. I do You
know, if they ask me, I'm going to say
to them, "Well, it's the best idea for
you to believe in the God of Abraham,
Isaac, and Jacob. And my character is a
tournament is not an idea [music] that's
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