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The Torah's Chain of Transmission - From Sinai? (Pirkei Avot Class #3)
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Rabbi Eli Benveniste - Pirkei Avot Series
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just one more
one more comment on
and it says
a very important point which at the
beginning of the first
it develops on he's talking about the
temen who came what does that mean
um and the main me one of the main ideas
he talks about which also Derek Hashem
discussed is the old side today by the
way
this is your side today
um uh says that we know that what a
person does down here affects upstairs
right he talks about hey our person has
to realize that his nishama is higher
than any malach
and what we do think say effects as it
were like Shaker you know rope effects
upstairs and brings down shepher or you
know has some other things all dependent
on what we do right
and he says in that respect a person is
greater than malach
the actual spirituality
whatever Malachi is way above a human
being he brings many sources you know
and other places it's much much more
than a human being I can't imagine this
there are filming
no no idea right
however
does not move they're called omdum right
they stay where they are they can't go
down the level they are or in the higher
world they're stuck and they definitely
can't affect a world above a world below
them we know there's many worlds
connected right I see all this business
a person does
a person right even if he's down here
can affect right up to the top you
understand and the fact on the way with
me so now respect the person much
greater
so he says when he's discussing this he
says that is the an understanding when
we say
and he asks why did he not say call this
is
it was all about it I never thought
about it yeah it's amazing there's a lot
of things when you see over here in
today's
you know we're picking up on a letter
you mean by this letter not another
letter that's that's the Torah right why
they say you should say yes
all right we discussed in the past
what we call it
you're with me that sandwich exists
until
it's going to come and it'll be this
world
Etc but
you know why
he says
in what's going to be
exists now because he creates with his
own actions or the opposite again
is his own actions are punishing him
it's in the pursue
the assuring come from the bad you mean
not that these you know the bat the swim
comfortable the person did not against
Russian Hashem so you saw him all in
gehennum that's just coming it's it's a
direct result you're with me it says and
we're trying to get into that no no
in what's going to be meaning because
he's the one that's making what's going
to be against
in what's going to be because he's
creating it you get it he's creating
with your good actions you're creating
your ramaba right and and and that
that's the whole thing it's not like um
not saying now
um
you know you do things and you get you
get uh what's the name wait that's a
good point at this point you know what
I'm saying
why you had space you you have you get
you get a space in in in in the metering
you I mean how many square feet
plot that exists over there no you are
building now your plot you're building
your house there you understand that's
how it goes when we said the muscle I
think once before
beautiful houses
a new retirement and this this kablan
who employed him to make you know lots
of houses and he was an expert Carpenter
et cetera blah blah
um he said to him you know do me a favor
why don't you build me one more house
and he's like you know he was really the
older Nissan and you know he couldn't be
bothered Anymore Joe I mean he thought
you know however he cut Corners he
bought cheap materials and this and that
and he built he was right yummy you must
think major he built much much better
houses and nice houses and then the
kablan comes in this guy's worked for
him for years he said here Joe you know
what I mean you did such a thing he
worked so hard your whole life here's
the keys this house is yours
no he said he said well he's building
he's building he told him he employed
him he was just being employed and he's
going to get paid forever to build his
house it was the last house he was in
the build because he's going to
retirement and so he cut corners and
built cheap stuff and everything else
and when he came to the end the cablan
says hey it's a prison and he gives me
the keys to the house and the guy's
kicking himself do you understand how
did he known that he's never giving his
house in his retirement they would build
the best house they ever did that's the
very strong muscle that's what we're
talking about now quality services
in not what's existing now you can work
and you get a bit in it no you're
building towards you what am I right
you know what I mean so it's worth
investment you understand the more you
put in the bigger the house you get it's
finished as simple as that anyway okay I
thought that was an important point to
speak up okay the first missioner let's
go for it Moshe kibel Torah
um
today I hope
first thing I
grammatically it should be oh number one
yeah why I'm missing now I mean from
Hashem
also if you're very famous
they didn't get it from the mountain you
got it from Hashem
Hashem we want to say at the mountain
say busting you understand it's supposed
to be
each one received it from the other one
right yeah fair enough
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um okay so we'll we'll
um I know and again I mean it says
history first of all the rambam and
others all right when you're on the
rights that we have to realize about
tanura why do we start off program with
this we mentioned this earlier when
we're talking about why is it called
avat we said avat because it's it's
going from one father as it were the
head of the generations like the leaders
without the fathers of the generation
it's going back at the chain to house
Sinai so even though this is all full of
midor and Musa and you might say they're
all Greek philosophy and this philosophy
and Italian ethics I don't know why
everyone is yeah
and they might be similar to a certain
extent so that we understand the Quran
we understand you know whatever you know
is a
Godly laws you know about ethics okay
right
it's all from everything everything is
missing night right and we said in in uh
not last uh yeah last week bahasi 9.
famous Russia says
why why does it say this is what Moshe
got the house and talks about schmitter
I didn't get everything else at the
house tonight
says Moshe received everything
right yeah it's confusing but it was it
was given everyone was given over in a
certain form including everything
and we have to realize that including
this a vote and all the middle because
there is
everything and all the Musa and all the
way to behave is also Torah
mississaug don't think you have a second
this is not really terrible no it's
Torah yeah it's Torah
that's number one the second thing is
says we have to realize you mean that
everything was given from generation to
generation yeah until the stimata talmud
and there's never been a break in the
chain when you're on it's interesting he
writes he was the one who shot him from
eight 900 years ago he says
after the gemara was written down then
it was
finished you understand it's going back
from from okay
so um
when it says
like you said forgive me for that was
what because I was had to get the
parents even here they managed to write
everything down he said what I saw
something Imam Luiz
one is that it's um we know it came from
gave the Torah right to moshabbin that
we know why did the Tanner say miss in
the eye to teach us another lesson I go
by the way that why was it that
moshabbin was the one that was okay to
get the Torah because we know we're
coming up to midterm next week right why
was Sinai chosen why not
because they're bigger mountains and
they all came running up
should be given on me I'm bigger and
I've seen I was lower
was humility and that's why Hashem gave
the Torah on her Sinai because it was
humble to teach us right that the Torah
only resides in a place of humility and
we know
right
because it was enough like Sinai was
enough yeah so that's one answer another
answer is another thing why it says
missing eye once we said that that
explains why it says
we say grammatically should say busy
night why not why Missy night with the
man we didn't get it from Mount Sinai he
came out Mount Sinai and we're saying
okay we're discussing Mount Sinai
because of the humidity aspect so one
thing one shot was a rem is that it
means Miss deny that it was mirami's to
the 40 days and 40 nights that he was at
the house in night okay it's a real
Minister thing
I mean in 40 days at Mount Sinai
now
um we said why does it say
um
and then um
so again I can't remember it says well
after three minutes and next week is
um that it's the the
when you when you receive something when
you make Cabela something the
connotation is
not everything
and when you give something over
everything is given over
so moshebenu however great he was it was
he had the memet
the highest level
there was a level didn't get believe it
or not you understand the noon sharing
you know
he did not have hence
right it wasn't every it was everything
but there was a level you understand
that even more did not get however when
you gave over to Joshua he gave over
everything that he had and Yeshua gave
over everything to the zucchini get it
as much as he could like like a clique
they receive as much as it's big you
know how big it is you're only pour in
as much as the size of the cleat so he
received as much as he could receive he
gave over everything they had follow me
yeah
was given over but within his levels in
a quantity but the quality the highest
highest thing which we have no muslim
what that means at all but really at all
we have no clue what that means but
that's the connotation yeah now
um you're sure
how we know this Messiah Yeshua Israel
as a kingdom Etc this came and lived we
said right there was the same as canium
it says the same as Canyon is the
kingdom they were still alive after
Yeshua passed away right and I'm sure I
gave it over to this Kingdom they came
and then came the the father right
on Thursday by the way I just haven't
heard it don't tell me that that today
was
and Thursday night Friday Cafe
apparently I mean we know but that's
what I heard it is
the great assembly the 120 Elders of
great assembly were those who came back
from galut bavel with Ezra right yeah
right and we know it's also fair with
them was hi guys
were the end of the Nivea so when it
says
there was there was an overlap between
the end of Chicago
right okay now
um
yeah so now it says like this
they said three things now obviously
they said many things right if one of
the only three things said
as I think the Ivers the Jacob says in
all of them well everyone's going to see
was that was
um the main message to that Tana had to
his generation he said a million things
the message the main guiding thing he
wanted you know that for that generation
was what he said right so this
um they said many things says that it's
about but he says these three things
this is what is going to enable the
Torah to keep going in all the
generations that's quite important right
we want the kids comes so these three
things were said over because this was
the these were the foundation for the
continuation of the teaching and passing
on the Torah right so that's why they
said it was this is brought down as what
they said this was The Guiding Light
um for them in in their generation
to be slow
in judgment right
and why is that because to the extent
the function of benjona says that even
if a person a judge
has it in comes to him Dear Mama not and
he knows wherever it's not the first
time he's had it
don't jump the gun
even if you still had these tons of
times these cases
chew it over think it over speak it with
other than him look it up again etc etc
don't ever jump right because we know
that the personal person can make a
mistake right a person is not you know
it makes mistakes might have forgotten
something these habits is a Nuance in
this thing over here
don't ever jump I mean be very very slow
to come to upsak even in in Imam or not
once in Adrian right mishna said when it
comes to to to uh when you had you know
21 Diane it wasn't a three but you know
three was 21 and you have to have the
role of 21 you mean it has to be I mean
they have to go and then they Pascal
even they passed and they can go back
the next day it's on realize it's
something they didn't realize you have
to be very you know very very careful
with these things
that was that's uh number one number two
you should stand up many times
so here this expression of the middle
makes make them stand make many times
medium stand
just mean you should teach many times
right
explain that this is the makro between
hello
in uh
said which is similarious
you can only teacher you'll be very very
picky with a minimal check him out you
know there's another foreign
that's how he was perfect he'd come in
the basement
right and and
um and then when he changed
then then said you know they added 400
benches to the bed midrash when yeah
when this rule got banned a new reformer
yeah let them in but come in and he said
on that day is
when we came that day when so many times
came in and they were all talking and
learning on the rest of it right and
even though it said he saw in a dream
and really
got upset so maybe made a mistake
he did wrong with his time you know and
whatever shamaim he was he was right he
was right whatever but they did all said
you have to learn as many because he had
a thousand come in you know maybe one
will come out as the cadola
whatever it is right 7500 reducing your
your chances right of of who's gonna be
able to come out and even if you only
have two who's going to be you know
which one's gonna be the right one so
the more to medium the better that's one
understanding of it you understand they
just bring as many as possible another
track that saw a beautiful shot again at
them and where I saw it with who said
what
um was
um that it's very important to have
tamidium and to teach as many people it
doesn't matter even if they're by the
battle they're going to go out you know
and and work after learning just for a
bit and whatever it is you understand
but unless you have everyone you there's
tons of tummies in which is what we're
trying to do in Argent in in the last
few Generations decided without going
into the history of the hasid and the
bitbacks and you know and there's so
many amarats him right there was a very
bad situation in you know before
belshanto came around the tanza amarats
him someone couldn't even read and write
forget about the women do you understand
the mummies didn't know anything right
like the times they didn't do anything
they didn't know anything and and there
was a huge gap between the Tamil and
right and by having to meet him out
there so then you you're not just that
you're gonna have you know as many
people in the Jewish people who are
gonna you know know something they're
also going to have the hashivot of the
Torah and that's more than that
it's gonna is is more important in a
certain extent than in anything because
once the whole base the majority of the
Jewish people have been the talmud at
some point right and they've they've
learned even if they learn the basic
amount but they were in there some sort
of Yeshiva you mean they had Arabic Etc
so nothing became became of them you
want to call it you know not read the
right word you know in in the in the
Torah world not Diane not it doesn't
matter but then the dayanim and the
Russian are going to be all listened to
and respected and they can carry on
passing the trial from from door to door
even if you can have the elite as it
were who are the the
roshishiva but then everyone underneath
is going to listen and tell the line
you're with me because if we didn't do
that and you just went for the best they
Elite so everyone else over here and not
only did not know also respect because
they were never brought up
what it means Torah you're following me
so it's it's it's very important in that
aspect now on the words of says might
just find it now
um
my one shot is they say over here that
there was is talking about how Tamil
used to stand or sit at the time of
learning whatever
um one second
no second
yeah yeah yeah yeah
um
right yeah yeah they got they were the
week the generation got weak yes I had
to sit down if we need them a little bit
Yeah so the the tosianto says he says it
should
say you should teach right what make
them stand so he says
he says
I have two legs and the mem has a base
the tough has has I think it's it's firm
a shin right it's not it's not it's
wobbly immediately stand meaning make
sure they they understand it they got
the emit everything's clear one is in
terms of their own right even when
you're not there they're gonna carry on
you make them upright they can carry on
their own in their own on their own and
also they meet to make sure they're
standing firm that they got clear they
there was nothing no nothing nothing not
misunderstood over here which is an
element of check if they got the wrong
shot
yeah follow me
and then
you should make a fence around the Torah
what does that mean
um what does that mean
so that means the base even though
right
not to ride the horse all these things
you know because you might end up taking
off a branch all these things are dinner
and here defensive talks like he says in
the beginning that he says um
um
to a certain extent
itself and he says why we say in the
password every morning
those that fear Him why because when a
person has he said that's a a a a very
very big fundamental in the queue of the
Torah
and all the dines are an expression of
yurat shamayam they all did it as a
fence around to safeguard the Mitzvah
don't ride the horse nothing on riding a
horse then you might break off a branch
and break
right so they're all there to safeguard
you from the Torah because we have you
at shamayam and we realize all the
taragmits world alive and death in a not
just in this world right in in all
worlds and expects we said before the
beginning right our actions affect
everything right that's a Jewish person
which is
therefore the seagota is very very
important one just to protect the Torah
in itself right and the render says even
stronger now he says if a person just
keeps them in spot and not the the Sia
game it means there's something wrong
over here I mean he's doing because
you're happy to do the mid side he's not
actually a you're at your mind that he
realizes this is life and death if he
keeps the dropper nun that proves a guy
is a real guy because he's bothered you
understand noise
if you speak like that that means and
then even what you do keep is uh you
understand it's not so II that's why
it's very important now
um I think we'll finish here because I
don't miss outfit when we finish just
remind me first I have to say that come
out I'm trying to remember exactly who
was who we said and also there's a very
Israel that learns these three things
referring to every individual because
what we said now was anxiousness
you know judge slowly
yes
nothing to do with us with the Regular
Joe yeah a regular guy so we'll see that
Israel meets him next week when we do
know we'll go over a bit and we'll
mention that he says refers to everyone
we can learn this mishnah referring to
every single individual