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Kindness Can Be Done to the Rich & Poor, Charity only to the Poor(Pirkei Avot Class #8)
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Kindness vs Charity - Rabbi Eli Benveniste - Pirkei Avot Series
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the finished anecdote I know we put a
mission of Beth and gimbal together
but the last thing when it says
and the third Amud
that said
was right
now
the greatness of
that Robin Yoni mentions which is for
you yeah Aaron
what
oh yeah sorry
so when he's talking about the famous
um
that's where I was over here
very famous urbaniona when he's talking
about the Mala
one second
I just had enough oh yeah
so he says there are many talked about
running mitzvot this is
which
um people aren't careful about right he
missed the whole list
and one of them is
things that some people aren't
necessarily careful about the harmony
the general populace
are not so
um says
you should let them know the way in
which they should go in the path which
they should walk in and remember
by the way
meaning they were you know that's the
way of path a person should take in life
is
foreign
over here before we carry on
says
and I quote he says very very important
he says he says as fathers
he says
um
now he says first of all it is possible
to help a rich person with money
by lending you money it could be did
some big deal and he wants to make
another big deal and he's short of a
million or two yeah above or two and uh
so you help him out with the money but
he says not only that he says also when
I tell them
give him some good Sound Advice says
referring to the things sweet smelling
oils the Couture sweet swinging spices
to the hardware person
um
and what's sweet to his friend is a
sound advice and to be honest says it
means just like
foreign
how to do something maybe try this and
this and oh you know
free didn't cost you anything right
this is um you find faith in the eyes of
Hashem
right and that's what the Bible create
we said we're going with the bathroom
that this is the reason why the world
was created and you can understand we
want to reach and even we said before
everything's included in the Torah but
he said is
the whole world right so when a person
does aggressive we are going walking the
ways of God Hashem that's the ultimate
right because it doesn't tell us
anything
but right that's that's why it's a very
big Mitzvah now
um
yeah now verbena to carry on over here
in um in uh
he comes to our mission after he says
on the mishna just how I you know give
an example of of
I mean you know that's what I've been
young and says there's a million things
right it's time to help a person now in
anything it doesn't have to be an eight
sir anything which has nothing to do
with money right a person can do right
it needs to be good for really the age
of the example
I mean it wasn't really any big tirucha
to give someone some advice doesn't you
know I mean it's not even that much time
it wasn't physical physically straining
if it wasn't money so as an example has
said you know helping someone out
without money but it's gonna help
someone to step things do I mean rest or
somebody needs to help any any of these
sort of things now
um he says
quoting from he goes
therefore are tweet is explained it's
so important
and he says
and then he says he's a famous famous
line right which is it should be a
Guiding Light
he says
a person is obligated to go out of his
comfort zone
to really you know push himself but you
shall travel or more to achieve the good
for the people of the community
to constantly work on himself to try and
help anyone out any due out whether it's
poor whether he's Rich a person should
be constant in that frame of mind not
just said all right why not you know he
says the person is it's a it's an
no just a nice thing he did it
and he's explaining that you know the
the boundaries they get to the midsize
to go out the way for the community for
individuals and to be constant on your
mind and put effort physically brain
power into how you can help other people
that is
right now um I can't remember exactly
the
the um
McCoy now I think somewhere says
the prophet he says you want to know
personal Hashem wants from a person they
speak demands of a person
you know
into it
and he writes over there also like you
know is there a she or has said you know
you have a Mitzvah has said so like
every day you know you have to make sure
you did one master has said
or there's a limit
there's no minimum Shield there's no
maximum there's a minimum you're with me
whatever that they go didn't have to
fight again maybe next week I'll find
where you know he defines the actual
parameters I mean what you've done the
mitzvah for the day what you have to do
but that's the idea of it now
that was very very important now
um
where are we
yeah now I just wanted to on this on
this point before you do the next
mission
um this time waited for a few weeks to
say that I didn't say this story they
said a story about the guy from America
did I say it last week
one
I didn't say it did I yeah
um if I did so just know the smile
politely and say because my father
remember I said an example we said of
someone doing
um
someone who was in hospital with a
relative hey not recently in in this
country I did say I didn't say hey
you look at me I don't remember
and we have
I did save
about the the
okay
no no I said that I never said or not I
have comment I don't think I came up to
you I don't remember if my knit
that he was in hospital with his with
his person with his child
and I think it was a triatidic and
people go around you know the whole time
organizations you know as a mission
people going around giving free drinks
and this and then toys for the kids you
know all sorts of Staff thoughts and
this thing I mean I'm going around you
know doing Crescent
so um
so this person
said that that's just a story happened a
few weeks ago that he was there and some
guy came around I think with his wife
and some of his kids picked their family
so
and he was being broken he had a very
strong American accent I mean either he
just moved here you could see so he said
hey I'll speak English oh very good
whatever he said the guy said can I
offer you anything don't I give you like
sandwiches and this and now they're like
oh Charlie
so he said thank you very much
appreciate it and this and that so this
person inquired said you know can I ask
you know what's your name so he said the
guy said his name what's her name so um
the father of the child said um
you know I do work in America I'm
involved with different communities and
stuff and that name rings a bell
if I no but now the person I dealt with
like about 10 years ago and it's a
business
lived in this area where it was Highland
Park Minnesota I know the areas over
there New Jersey you know or something
one of the areas in there
um and this the person I knew with his
name was like a billionaire he has some
fashion made companies and label like
he's a billionaire this guy a Jewish guy
um I think called Echo no it's called
Echo are there some fashion name called
Echo I don't know whatever some fashion
what
else anyway
well I did say a story no no no I know
that I know um
so the Father the child said you know
are you related
she said it's me
so I said oh really I said yeah
so he says well you moved here or
something he said no
he says what are you doing he said I
just came over the weekend
so with his family my mom said from
Thursday to Monday or something it's
like a Sunday morning
he said he said what some minutes on
vacation or some simple he said no I
came to I came I came my family don't
want to give out sandwiches to ill
people in the hospital
yeah and this guy was like Blown Away no
one no one he didn't say this to anyone
no one knew he was and the reason why I
came here was because of that purpose he
wanted to do the guy's a billionaire
right I don't think he goes around
pushing trolleys around yeah I mean you
know we're not we're not there yet you
know what it means a big billionaire
this guy told me when he did business
with him that he would send chauffeur
drovement chauffeur-driven cars fancy
luxury cars to pick up workers this guy
was doing business
that's how rich he sent he was taking a
luxury cars used to pick up workers like
a billionaire multi literally a
billionaire
and he's going around hospital without
pushing around up and down and pushing
his heavy trolley around with his family
and he because he wanted to do
it but the big money was but had he gone
anywhere in America he will go publicity
because he's he's a he's a well-known
guy he's come to shy italic you know
he's ready he's a very nice guy so they
went in there he said fine you know
another one is heavy you know there's so
many programs I try to study anyways
another guy so he said okay fine you
know he's a Jewish he's religious
because one day you only give out
sandwiches and stuff and snacks you know
feel free
yeah so this was amazing thing is an
example when the guy he's got tons of
money so he gives tons of money to the
car but he wants to he wants it what
I don't know yeah no literally I'm
saying I've got no idea exactly that's a
joke you know he probably did you know I
mean half the high probably later half
the hospital not even knows who he is
you know and then he came here for that
and that was just it was unbelievable
this guy was blown away as well so that
you know he wants to admit and he wants
to do it in the purest form he doesn't
want publicity and he knows he goes in
America you know oh you know Max
Goldberg the billionaire giving out you
know sandwiches you know in in in
whatever his thing in Hospital in New
York so like you know defeats the whole
purpose so he flew here just for the
weekend in order to to do
his family is for that purpose he
brought his family over because he wants
his family
yeah I'm saying anyway so I thought that
was a very beautiful story of just an
example he was saying you know and it's
because that's a rich person who can
give lots of money with taka but he even
you know like he did nothing for himself
and he wants to be able to give to other
people in a pure way so he does what he
did anyway okay let's carry on mishna
gimmel says mishna gimmel we said we
read it we mentioned the general context
right Antigone antigos
foreign
serving his master in order to get
reward rather you should serve him like
avoid him who are doing it they're not
doing him no I'm not there is a reward
there they know they're gonna get paid
but they're not doing that's not their
main intentions
so they said last time you know the
general context of the times with the
Greeks Etc amen we said that fine
so first we're over here we said we
mentioned also I think last week the
gears had changed that this is
um you should be like
you doing it not I mean not just
you know you've got your the you know
there's reward coming but you're not
doing it you know necessarily for the
war you know it's there you know
whatever and he says you should be doing
it like you don't want the reward you
don't even want the reward
yeah you're doing it just because you
want to serve the master now what's the
idea behind that so Robin explains
it's very important how he explains
everything he said what's the principle
over here and we're gonna have to finish
over here because we went over time as
usual I mean whatever I couldn't start
he says as follows
I just find his words inside because the
rashoni were very succinct he says that
is he brings you to give yourself
and he says like this
um
the the best avodah that a person can do
yeah is when he's doing it he's doing
because he doesn't want the reward right
now this is the word anyway
when the gift is
you're doing it because you don't want
you're doing it doesn't mean you're
doing it with the intention not to get
paid what's that supposed to mean he
said that means that you you don't know
you are doing I don't want to get paid
why I want to do this because I want to
do this I owe you you owe me you
understand and then and it's basically
saying that serve Hashem
don't do it because he said you
understand
I sound so great you should do it
because you just love Hashem so much
like like the you know
that the rambam says look in the Bria
and you see the goddess of Hashem you
become drawn to Accord we mentioned
right at the beginning this concept and
and uh to remember that Torah you see
the Godless
in the depth of the toraham and you you
draw and also the fact that Hashem is
me Hashem doesn't do anything right and
there was again he said you should be
doing it right
and
um
he says
there's a quoting again this isn't
she'd bet
when he's listing at the 20 principles
of the mid the midst of repentance
the third principle is
which Loosely translated means
depression right which is basically
regret but he says much more regret is
you know oh while I do it you kick
yourself it wasn't worth it why they do
such a thing yeah God is Mama's like you
just I mean you just lost yourself
completely like broken how can I do why
did I do what I did you know and and he
says
um we are gone
um well can you give an example he says
a person could meet heret what he did
but he hasn't done enough because he
says you know a person has you know and
if you're under sheckled in his wallet
in his pocketbook so he's like oh you
know it was like five second shekels
with money you know what I mean he's
upset so if a person had you know
invested
came out all his money in something
and just lost the whole thing he's not
like ah okay you know two million
dollars to my money nothing left right
you know and he doesn't he's just he's
depressed right he goes oh it's
mentioned they say can you do this right
so he said that's yeah you can't take it
and he said that tag should be why he
says will tear me a Nero we should stay
here we're losing your money you should
be getting so upset and after when you
went to college
and he and he has to think well I think
that's a very what I do I didn't
remember his creator who created him oh
Yeshua
who created you from nothing more
and it has said by just creating the
first place we are daughter
and hashem's hand is leading you
throughout your entire life will not say
enough
he's every second yeah we know your
house popping he's giving your heart
pumping he's keeping you alive the whole
second
and then you went and did something
against him so that's in the context of
but I'm just using the initial note when
to understand Robin says over here you
should do it
I'm doing it but I got paid for I want
to get paid for when Hashem this week he
brought me into this world he keeps me
alive every second he does everything
for me and I'm gonna I'm gonna do
something because I want to get
something back
okay anyway we'll have to leave it there
and we'll carry on next week