Having Trouble Believing in God? - R. Zecharia Wallerstein - TorahAnytime.com

when i used to do business um i used to sell a store in bensonhurst that was owned by a jew he wasn't religious at all nothing zero wasn't religious at all and um he had a missionary that worked for him he was jewish not from not nothing he had a missionary that kept telling him that the jewish religion is wrong and that if you don't believe in yashka then you're you're you're holding back the messiah he made him crazy anyway i was just starting to teach at that time and this guy his name was henry his name was mike actually the name of the store was henry schwitz store his name was mike maybe he's listening to the i don't know if he became i don't think he came religious but whatever and uh he called me up he said listen rabbi um i don't know maybe this missionary is right maybe his religion is right and we're wrong i need you to come in and uh and and have a discussion and i will see which one of you have a debate and whichever one of you wins the debate that's how i'm going if the if the missionary wins then i'm i'm becoming christian and if you win then i'll stay jewish well i never i was very young i was maybe 25. i never had a debate with uh missionaries uh their their their they go to school for this they know exactly what to say i i never debated a missionary i didn't know what to say but he said if you don't come to debate i said i don't really i'm the one guy he said well if you don't come then i'm that i'm listening to him because the guy was telling him sure the rabbi ain't coming because he knows we're right so i had to go so i remember i went to david minha before i went i dive into hashem that he should put the answers in my mouth i'm not trained anti-cult anti-missionary i'm not trained for it all right so i come into the back room i remember it like today we're sitting in the back room we have the money and everything this guy walks in very white skinned very calm i'm a young 25 year old guy he says you're a rabbi i'm like no i'm not a rabbi i'm a teacher oh okay he said would you like me to go first in this debate or would you like to go first now i didn't know where to start i never did this so i told them no no you're older you you should start so he gets up and he says you know god is this being that's above this world above physicality above anything physical and um so he doesn't bother with this world but he had a son a human son with mary and he starts telling me the whole religion and that son is yashka jesus and he's the messiah and he's the one that came to this world to do god's work and he's and the jews who don't believe in the messiah yashka because of the jews he's not coming but if you guys if a million of you would become christian the messiah will come you're holding back the messiah i list his whole speech what am i arguing with like what am i saying right we like that's the biggest blasphemy that god had a human being as a son well if he had a son why didn't he have one and one son and today they would be complaining why didn't he have a daughter right because like or was it oh what's the gender of that of that thing like whatever i don't know what they would say today right it definitely would not fly so so um i said listen i don't know your religion we we first made a joke i said jews uh we go to the owner of the store non-jews if they have a problem with an item in the store they talk to the manager we don't want the magic who owns the store i want to talk to the owner of the store we don't deal with in-betweens god owns the world we don't a little joke with a little joke he didn't think it was funny i said i said mike darling this is the guy that i i was doing business i said mike listen to me i never studied the religion i'm not a missionary i don't know but let me tell you something mike after 120 years when you die let's say they're right they're not let's say they're right and this guy yoshika is standing there right his soul comes up and he says hey mike well he's not going to talk like that but what hey mike why did you come to church you never came to church you never prayed to me right we're gonna have to put you in a yeah the barbecue in heaven you know and put you in hell you never came to church no christianity what is this business i said mike what would you say i don't know well christians believe in the ten commandments right they all agree the old testament the ten commandments it says honor your father so all you need to tell this joshua if there's such a thing is you're right i never went to church but i went to synagogue instead of praying to you i pray to your father you're gonna punish me praying to your father then the whole ten commandments are wrong then the whole thing then the whole religion that you have is wrong you messed up man i said so mike you got nothing to worry about you go to school you go you go to the father you go you have nothing to worry about i said but i tried to this guy and i said but if you're wrong and you come to heaven after 120 years and there is no son of god that's blasphemous right there's just god and god's like excuse me who did you pray to to my son i have a son human that's what you think that you see god has a fun with a woman you're done so i said if we're wrong the jews we're not wrong we pray to that we pray to the father but if you guys are wrong you're in big trouble because you're blasphemous to hashem mike's like wow that's pretty good call me stephen because that was my english name i was selling plastic bags this guy this missionary who was so soft when i walked in started cursing me in front of my you blank juice this is why i'm like what happened this guy turned into a monster when i first walked in he was the sweetest guy he quit he quit that they walked out he said i'm never gonna work here again and mike said bye the last second you realize that your whole life you lived wrong that's huge problem the brothers when he said they realized that their whole sock their whole thing their whole their whole was wrong and then halloween pun off that was something they could not handle so you need to live your life the ms and if you have questions you need to write to ask the right people khasi shalom is like this boy i said to him i said i did the same thing to him i said one second you're an atheist you don't believe in god i said i'll give you two choices let's say you let's say let's say you write there's no god which can't be because if there's a creation there's a creator and being that there's all these creations there's creators there's a creator but let's say you're right atheism is right let's say there's no god so what's going to happen you let's say your whole life you were a religious jew you learned torah treated your wife right had kogo kishka and all kinds of and matchable soup and had circus and purim and hanukkah and and had and brought up your children correctly and that's 613 minutes if they never spoke bad about another person horror i never looked at things you shouldn't because you're right you follow the turret correct 100 and then you die and there's nothing so what'd you lose but what happens if you live as an atheist and you don't believe in hashem and you don't keep any of the mitzvahs and after 120 years you come to shamayim and you die and the first thing you see when you die is god shrina oh your whole life was a lie you're finished you're done i'm like i have no gamble i'm living a yiddisha taiwaka life and even if there was no god i would live this life anyway it's such a good life and i know that there is a god so if i am wrong what am i missing i have a family i go to daven i what do i do by dive and i pray doesn't hurt me right i learn i use my brains i do all good things the mixes are honor your appearance one day a week quiet down don't do anything look at the ten command don't kill somebody don't steal somebody don't be jealous of somebody right so so have a great life and then i have hashem but you i told this boy same story i said but you if you're gonna be an atheist and not keep anything if you're right okay but if you're wrong you're dunsky why would you take that chance you