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Watch Live: OU's Torah LA at Link - join us on Sunday, March 27 at am PDT as YU Rosh Kollel and OU Kosher Senior Posek Rav Hershel Schachter explores: Tzedaka at Home and Around the World - How Do We prioritize Our Giving? And OU Executive Vice President Rabbi Moshe Hauer on: Having Tough Conversations - Building Resilient Families in a Crazy World
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[Music]
um
[Applause]
they still remember
did you bring it
oh
okay
[Music]
nice
yes
is
over the last few years
um
basically all of all of
have been depleted because everybody is
learning all that
in a very beautiful way and i'm saying
that tongue-in-cheek but it's incredible
it's incredible and in particular
everybody has like who's your favorite
magic shirt
is it like the quiktar or is it right
bernstein or is it
we have not too many yiddish speakers
here and so we always have nothing in
that but
and just in general the sense of finding
the halls and being there for the people
of course nc is why because the clash
royale so much so much and without a
question of the howard is the the voice
that people and the
thinker that people can relate to and
connect with and it's a very big source
that we have such a wonderful vibrant
organization that's run by such an
incredible leader manukin
and we know that there are many many
people listening and they they they
follow his words in a very beautiful way
you should be talking about this and
have continued
[Music]
i know you have to leave
you should leave
um i want to know that the space
marriage thinks of everything is
meaningful and symbolic there are two
clocks in this room one of them which
the speaker sees and one of them which
the audience is the one which the
audience sees keeps moving one which the
speaker says stand still
that's
perfect it's accurate no
that's another way it works all the time
okay
um we're talking here a little bit about
building with building resilience
families
and i want to share with you i want to
begin by sharing with you
a uh a madrish
a comment in the madrich which which
is such a beautiful and elegant framing
of
of this issue
and specifically specifically something
to think about as we as we approach
uh
the
yum tiv of conversation
between
family members between parents and
children the which is built around the
levinka the madras says that when hashem
first appeared to moshe to begin the
process of taking the jewish people out
of mexico so you know he appeared to him
at the burning bush
and moshe was walking through the desert
and he sees the burning bush and he goes
to go and look and to see
what's what
and uh a voice
comes out to call moshe avenue to gain
mons attention
if i appear to him in a big loud voice
i'll scare him
if i appear to him in a very soft voice
both on about
he'll just
walk past it
he won't pay attention to it
what voice should i use that won't scare
him away
or that won't be too
modest too soft that he will ignore
how do i strike the perfect
the perfect balance
[Music]
he appeared to him with the voice of his
father
and the voice of the father the voice of
the parent
is supposed to strike
the perfect balance
a voice that won't be ignored
and a voice that won't scare off
and so he appeared to him the madrid
gets it
from the fact
[Music]
the first thing is i'm the god of your
father the god of afraco
it's an amazing
characteristic
or an ideal
of what a parent's voice is supposed to
stand for
which is
significant enough
that the child won't walk past it
but not so overwhelming
that the child will be scared
and need to need to step back
to strike that perfect balance
it seems
incredibly incredibly fitting
that in this story
which initiates
the process
of itse
the process which we
remember
and the process which we have to
tell our children the story of
on the one night
when parents don't
outsource
educating their children that's the
night when we sit around the table and
we have a mitzvah
you should teach it to your children
and for that we build schools
and we hire teachers and reviews
we have the mitsubi
without using any
agent any middle person any any any uh
any outsourcing
so we do the same
and it's the night when of hidato
chauvin
of milando when a parent is supposed to
communicate
with
the specific understanding of the nature
of the child
of the specific temperament
of the child
and
this is when we need that magic
this is when we need to have that voice
that's
significant enough that it is heard that
the
other party is attentive to
but at the same time not so soft
that it would be ignored
and moshe abeno's
initiation of the story
comes with a reflection
on the absolute
sweet spot
that only a parent's voice is able to
some degree to
to to attain
when we speak about resilient families
when we speak about resilient anything
anybody
what are the ingredients
of resilience
what enables somebody who goes through
something of difficulty
to be able to withstand it to be able to
bounce
back from it
to be able to deal with adversity
however it strikes
and yet to continue
social science
identifies factors
factors which
hashem i think speak well
for the structure
of our community of the jewish community
of the orthodox jewish community
factors that build resilience
our faith
faith in god
a factor that builds
that builds resilience is existing
within
a strong and supportive structure
when one has
supportive family
support of community
that's these are intensely important
factors in being able to determine
resilience
and finally
another critical factor of towards
resilience
is
when one has higher and broader goals
if life is defined
by the things that are so to speak at
eye level the things that we see right
here
so if heaven forbid one of them is lost
or radically changes
then
it seems like everything is lost
when one sees things in terms of a
bigger picture
that the things that are at eye level
are circumstances
rather than the purpose itself
a person who sees
a bigger goal and a greater goal in life
so that that goal will survive
a job change
a
a a trauma a loss of virtually any kind
so we can talk about all of them we can
talk about faith in god and its
importance it's a staple of our lives we
could talk about
living for higher goals and purposes
which is also
also must be a staple of our lives such
that again any change of circumstance
won't destroy it but when we're talking
today
i would like to focus on the support
system and not so much on the communal
support system but specifically on the
familial support system we're talking
about building resilient families we
should talk about internally what we're
able to do
what we're able to do ourselves what
we're able to do ourselves
you know
when we think about loss
of comforting mourners
personal elena loses
a relative
so
what we decide
is most comforting is that
yeah the shakhtar spoke a few minutes
ago but you know they they walk the
gauntlet you know they walk through the
shura people on both sides come and wish
them the right words say to them the
right words offering words of comfort
the the
uh people come many many people come to
visit to converse
so we know that there's
there's a lot of wisdom and there's a
lot of therapeutic value that could be
present in all of that
it would
that at seem
core
at the core of nikola veiling
is a simple concept
that one may have lost something big
there may be a certain void but all is
not lost
when others come
then the person understands
what they have
that there's a shift from just focusing
on the space of what is lost to
understand what they have
there's a halocha
that says
that in avil
anyone loses a relative they're not
allowed to eat suda reshaina the first
meal they can't eat michelle they can't
eat of their own
what we call the sudas havra
the the meal which is supposed to
somehow restore
the oven to a certain degree we're
sometimes you know very much like
will get up and make themselves a cup of
coffee we seem to sometimes view that as
like a capital
a capital offense of some kind it's not
a halacha for the whole week people do
it they send food the whole week it's a
beautiful thing it's part of this it's
an expansion of this
but the fundamental thing is
that you can't you can't have the first
meal of your own
and and again a certain sense that's
what's being legislated
the person lost something
they face a gap
and what we have to make sure
is
that now
they feel what they have that there's
someone there that's looking out for
them and providing it for them
and we've shown in
in in some of the early commentaries
they interpret a famous verse this way
the pasuk says
you are children to hashem your god
don't tear your flesh don't pull out
your hair over the over a loss
so what does that mean you're children
of god and therefore you shouldn't do
this there are different interpretations
rashi speaks of that you have an image
of god you shouldn't scar it you know
whatever the grief
but others say others amongst the rich
on them say
that the idea is that the person
could feel
that they've lost everything
they lost a relative somebody who's dear
to them
and we tell them
you lost something significant but every
human being
we're all children of god and god cares
about us
so
in a sense
a mitigating factor to us
is to recognize who we still have and
that's a critical tool of resilience as
people face difficulty as people face
challenge to understand who they have
it's there for traumatic loss a
traumatic loss isn't just where a person
in one's life disappears sometimes where
it's faith in a person that disappears
sometimes when it's a person it's a
person's own self-confidence
own
self of its identity of self that to
some degree seems to have eroded or been
lost like with many of the confusing
issues that young people
and not just not such young people face
today where we lose our bearings
for them
for
us for such situations the idea that
there are significant anchors strong
handrails that the person is still able
to hold onto that they're indeed not
left alone
that's critical
it's critical for the person to be able
to not just maintain resilience but go
beyond i read once many years ago a
fascinating piece a fascinating article
was an article in the in the in the in
the i guess around here you have to say
the new york times and other places you
say the times right here right and this
was article in the in the in the new
york times where they where they
they as they were
you know
doing the genome sequencing they
identified a resilience gene
they identified a resilience gene
that if a person has this gene so to
speak that's on
they would be more likely to be able to
bounce back
from trump
interesting yeah
so we say okay here's how you build
resilient families go to a lab right and
get them to switch your gene your gene
sequence now listen to it listen to what
they discovered
they said that that resilience gene in
fact is impactful
with two people with identical
circumstances
one has the gene one doesn't have the
gene there will be a difference
but the gene
or the difference made by the gene is
completely compensated for
in terms of resilience
if
the person
has someone to whom they feel that
they're able to turn
two people
experience coming from the same context
they did study is the stuff that the
story featured a pair of twins who were
not identical twins who had all the same
context and everything else but one had
it and one didn't have it and
the ability that someone has where they
feel they have someone to turn to
post as they're experiencing the like
the trauma the difficulty
erased the impact of the gene
which means that what we
could do for each other by being there
for each other where the person feels
that they have someone to whom they can
share they can express
what's going on what's their feeling
what's in their mind what their what
what they're going through
is the ultimate solution it overcomes
whatever internal internal deficiencies
we might have
and that tells us
that our
obligation
i mean what is a lesser term
our obligation
for members of our family and
specifically and especially for our
children
is to make sure
that they feel
that they have somebody to turn to
that they're not scared
as in the big heavy voice
oh my goodness if i tell my parent what
i'm struggling with
if i tell them that i just tried this
or that i'm finding myself hooked to
that
or that i'm having
this
question about myself or my identity
they are going to go ballistic
they're going to get angry with me or
they're going to be so confused and so
embarrassed
they won't be able to talk to me
so we just
then
imagine let's speak always in the
positive
if we don't
if we're beyond that
if we can make it that we can be
approached
we can be approached
then we're introducing
to their lives
the key ingredient
better than the gene
of resilience
my
parent is someone who i can turn to when
there's something which is on my mind
when there's something that i'm going
through and they won't be phased
now between me and you
of course will be faced
of course
my child can go through something like
that the first time we encounter
it could be the first time we encounter
it
it could be
that even if it's not the first time
that we encounter it but we hoped so
much and we tried so hard
that it wouldn't go this way that
wouldn't turn out this way
and all the confusing
feelings which parents have
when it comes to their children's
success or failure
the combination of
absolute love and care for the child and
at the same time how it plays into our
own
dreams and aspirations and you know our
desire for a nicely polished trophy
um you know represented by by
by the children
of course those are normal human
reactions that each and every one of us
would have
ancilla it's not a question
and we're not quote-unquote lesser
people
because of it just it's normal it's
normal and it's human
but we can't afford
to let that be
the
the dominant
feature or even if possible not even
like a visible feature of how we're how
we interact and how we relate we have to
accept it
and we have to say of course okay so i'm
so so glad
that
you're you're telling me about this
it's it's a it must be incredibly
difficult incredibly challenging
to express understanding
and to just
be
welcoming
there's nothing you know the gomorrah
famously says
right so it says when a person has a has
a worry
that's on their heart
one of the ways to understand the verses
they have to be able to share it with
somebody
somebody who's
you know not an anonymous helpline
but a person
who you're connected to
who's
in with you
for the long haul
it's a key
element
of resilience and a key
cova a key obligation
that we have
as uh as parents
to be able to create that kind of
environment where our children are going
through something they have somewhere to
turn and that somewhere is me
that somewhere is me people sometimes
feel
it's not working
they can't for whatever reason you know
people have sometimes a little bit of a
history with a specific child maybe now
they want to try to adjust it to try to
make it better
you can't just snap your fingers and
make it all
disappear
so we have to think
and and strategize and say okay you know
ideally
every parent is approachable by every
child about every possible subject but
sometimes that's just not gonna be it's
just not gonna happen and sometimes you
know this child talks to the mother this
child talks to the father and there's
this this you know this dynamic going on
that's okay
you know so so so one could be
supportive to to ensure
that they have somewhere to turn and
sometimes you know
because of whatever history that can't
necessarily be rewritten
it's not immediate
that either parent
is going to be someone that the child is
going to confide in
maybe there's
too much fear or resentment or distance
built built up that it's possible so
then
a parent can make sure still that the
child has someone somewhere to turn they
can strategize with their educational
framework that who's
the teacher
who's the faculty member who's the
counselor
that
this child connects to
and somehow facilitate
that relationship
help that person understand
how important they are to this child's
future how much you need them
encourage them and
if necessary
if necessary get out of their way you
know make sure that that you know that
that that is there but we need it
everybody needs it
resilience requires having some place to
turn
there are all kinds of things
that people
especially the young people in this very
very confusing time i think somewhere in
the title of this lecture was
about a crazy world i think it's fairly
accurate to characterize things that way
right and and uh there are all kinds of
things
and
everybody seeks company they seek
support
and
if in what they're struggling with they
don't feel that they can turn to us
they turn to their peers who are going
through the exact same stuff
and not necessarily with solutions
or strength
but in fact you know to some degree
you know the opposite
to create that
is vital it's the it's the oxygen of
relationships and it's the core and the
key ingredient
of uh of of resilience
in trying to to make ourselves
approachable
we have to
become a person who's comfortable to to
to speak to someone about something
you know a subject which is never raised
the child will have to imagine okay my
parent is very compassionate maybe i can
talk to them about that
but perhaps we need to be proactive
perhaps we need to be proactive
and to some degree
take take some
leadership to control the narrative
there are challenges which are very
predictable
from the world around us things which
our kids are hearing about
they're hearing about
from the street they're hearing about it
from their peers they're hearing about
it from society around them it's so so
often so many of these confusing things
are
are thrust in our faces that's the
that's the nature of the
of the culture and of the media and
everything else that it's thrust in our
faces
so
if we want to be that approachable
parent
it's very important that we not respond
to things with anger
that we make ourselves you know
to to present as if we are the greatest
ally
but we also
need to
to be in the sugiya we need to be in the
discussion
the child could feel wet
my parents you know i love them i could
turn to them but most things without no
idea
if i'm gonna talk to them about this
about
about you know trying this drug or or
you know identity questions or things
like that
and uh so
we may need to take the lead
let me let me let me not qualify that we
need to take the lead
we need to take the lead in such
conversations
and find within ourselves
educate ourselves a little bit
open the conversation
to open the conversation and again it
doesn't need to be necessarily that one
has a dissertation to give on whatever
the particular subject is
if one just
raises it
you know the conversation
and once upon a time there was so to
speak the conversation which parents
would have with their children
and go and take the survey how many
parents actually have that conversation
with their children
they don't they're afraid we are afraid
to some degree as parents to raise these
things and we can't be because why
should they learn about it from
the alternative sources it's not
sensible it's not appropriate
and it cuts us off
as being an approachable resource
we have in a certain way to lead the
conversation
to share with uh with
understanding uh to begin with
and it's it's it's an irreplaceable role
of parents i irreplaceable as a drop of
an exaggeration because again sometimes
the parent won't do it to somebody else
hopefully they'll have somebody else
meaningful in their lives
but it's a role which parents should
play
that's all which parents should play
which they shouldn't answer
on the same table that's the seder table
which is
where
it's the one night in the year
where we're surely fulfilling
a table
which is like a mizbayaf people sitting
and
omrimola of devetorah talking about
matters of value around the seder table
we need to lend
from that to our regular table to our
dinner table to our shabbos table where
things can be discussed
where issues
are there to be entertaining and
sometimes it's one-on-one sometimes it's
just you know
our like grapples
with things and discusses things
our parents is someone who's going to be
able to approach us again very often
it's way way better to do one-on-one
when it comes to some of these extremely
sensitive sensitive matters just because
of the
the
the holiness so to speak that you still
want to have you know to maintain the
home to something as a sanctuary
but just the idea that we do speak about
things
about things is is is so important to be
able to create to be able to create this
this dynamic
there's a there's a story which has
nothing to do with drugs or identity but
it has to do with this idea of listening
that it just
i just
love this story and
and
i credited to to to to my wife who found
it and shared it and shares it
consistently it's such a wonderful
wonderful story
levine was the salah of yerushalayim
he was known as the tsaric of jerusalem
and
on
on a certain
friday afternoon
he walked in
to an establishment
it was like a like a restaurant type so
restaurant or or
or a club type of an establishment on a
friday afternoon
with his hat and his beard and his frock
or his strangle already was there
shabbos he walks in on air of shabbos
and
and uh
he sits down
and he's sitting down he's looking
around
and the proprietor
after a few minutes he sees he knows
who's there he comes over to him
and he says like what's going on
why why is there rough here on earth
champions
he was used to you know people coming
and saying gotta close your store with
shabbos you know picketing and so on and
so forth
alright levine king says
and i'm sitting and i'm looking
at all these people coming in coming
through the store
after friday friday afternoon going into
shabbos they're off
they're coming they want to eat they
want to buy
it's unbelievable how difficult it might
be must be for somebody to contemplate
closing their store for shops
how could you even think about it
look at this look at all the activity
it's really really so hard
wherever i live got up and he went to
davon in kabul's shabbos
and after shabbos
this fellow came to a very living
and he said i closed my store
you're the first person
who
approached me
and understood
the difficulty of the decision that i
was facing
that's the story
that's
the voice the right voice the
approachable voice the voice of
understanding
that will ultimately ultimately get
through ultimately get us through
critical ingredients for resilient
families
for resilient individuals
is that they have someone to turn to
and it's our task our job to be that
someone
part of being that someone
is that they know that we're there for
them unconditionally that we're
approachable that nothing they will say
to us
will faze us that will be so angry or
embarrassed or whatever else it is that
we won't be able to continue to be there
for them as they face us
and part of building that
approachability is also that we
remove our heads from
our 20th century or from our little
bubble of of of our own lives
and
try to be able to
to be there in theirs in their struggles
and what their and what they're
inevitably
the questions and challenges we say
inevitably
and then
we will be the ones for them to turn to
we will be the ones who will be you know
the voice of the father the mother the
voice of the parent
that's just the right pitch
just the right pitch taken seriously
enough
overwhelming and will fulfill we'll be
able to have what elio anovi the mouth
of the seder
what he what his prophecy which will
read the last words before pace
is
he will turn the hearts of the fathers
to the children and the hearts of the
children
to the parents
it will take all of us to tango
they'll take all of us to tango but with
uh with that openness hashem
we will come together
to the kind of communication
that will build resilient children
families
of each of us