Tisha B'Av - The Lomdus of Kinnos

this torah class is brought to you by torahanytime.com okay good morning rabbi so i want to speak a little bit about kenneth um kennis is supposed to be a recitation of the tragedies that happened to claudius straw and the purpose of it is not lima torah the purpose of it is to evoke the emotion for the tara that happened but at the same time because the kidness were written by great many of the statements that they make you could learn from their various halachas and cheetos what they hold about various and yanim so even though on tissue of itself we don't have shiurim on the halacha is that we derive from the kinis and what the shita of the balha mccoy name is but nevertheless it's still a helicopter that we could uh learn a number of halaches so the first thing we have to know is who wrote the kinis so we have that 45 kinus that we say uh during the day and the most well-known of all the pythonim the most well-known of all the authors of kinase was revelation who is universally accepted as the father of the kinis in fact the sheboyle haleked which is quoted in the mughal brahman simmons tells us that he heard from his father who heard from his rabbiam that when khalid composed the piot about so a fire came down from shamayim and encircled problems so you know we're dealing with people of tremendous caliber the marie hertz right so when allah wanted to compose one of the putin so he would utter a shame and he would go up to the shamayim and the malach mikhail would give him tips on how to praise hashem and one of the tips that the mount mikhail told us was to compose based on the order of the aleph phase but be it as it may rebel as a clear was a great personality there is a macholicus as to who exactly he was so it's reshinam the toys says that reblazaha khalir was revelation of the son of rabshem the rajba in the chuba sarajwan simon taf samachtes he identifies your abilizer khaleer as revelator so you're dealing with a tana over here either reblaz of the center of shambhala or reblazer so be it as in a you're dealing with somebody aside from being a great mccoy name was a great as well so what i want to focus on are a number of interesting halacha that you could derive from the kinase so in kina yud very interesting statement in kina yod it's talking about um the cessation of the mishmar is kuhuna we know there are 24 mashbaris of kahuna that were misakin the gemaran taina says that it was niskane by david and shmuel and there's a line here which is a very telling line it says like this of the orion so what is this talking about that because of the khorbin bay samik dash the kaihanem who carried the urine their their song was silenced so let's see if we could find it yeah right so the question right it's the second line in keno yard so to pay attention for tuesday morning the song seized from those who carried the orion so the question is uh everybody knows uh the kahanam did not carry the orion excuse me the the who sang in the base of magnus the levian sang who carried the urine that's the shyla who carried the urine in who carried the orion in the midbar so the ram says in the safer hammond's voice and it's uh lamid dalid [Music] the number of kohanim who lived then ki aaron hua rosh amnam ledoy royce mitsuzu is that in the midbar the leviathan carry the orion and in the narrative israel the kohanim carried the orion commission is barbara safer yoshua of the safer she's more if you look throughout naviam says the ramam the kohanim always carry the orion it says that even though in the mid bar the levium carry the urine in arat israel the kaihanim carry the arraign so the question is what does the kinna mean vidamam rohin mi pinoy say arain the song was silence from the carriers of the orion the kohanim argues on the rambam the ramban in the sharish gimmel of the sephora mislis the ramban says no the same way though matsuva to carry the orin in the midbar they were also mitsuba to carry the urine in eretz israel so it comes out then they would seem that rivalizer khalil holds like the ramban and not like the rambam which is a little bit of a problem for the rambam because rolazalia was probably a tana so you know the rambam could argue on the ramban but he can't argue on reblazer or revelation so that's a question you know and if you look at most kinus it says reblazer seems to be going like the of the ramban and not like the rama so if salvation his kinis he uh he feels no it's more mustaber that the kinna is going why because the whole kinayod is talking about the cessation of the meshmaris kahuna so if he's going like the ramban the dhamma roy mi pinoy say all right it has absolutely nothing to do with that kena we're not talking about what happened to levine i mean we feel bad about what happened to lee but that's not what the kin is about ken is about the cessation of the twenty-four missionaries kahuna so it's more mustaber that the rebels are callier is going to fear the of the rambam that the kohanim carry the urine i what does it mean vidama moroin that the song stopped the kahanam didn't sing so salvation quotes yaakov the alcochimani says that when ezra came back to shalom he looked for livium and he couldn't find any there were no levium so we know that the gemara tells us that he put a knot on the limb that you don't give nice areas until the vm you give it to the kohanim fine that i was aware of but the yaakov shimano takes it further that he darshan the pasuk levi the pastor says from there ezra derived that not only our kahanam they also have the kaikalevi mamela since there were no leviem he appointed the kahanam to sing shira so that's more mustaber that what the baal what the mekonya means is the dhammam ruin me no you say alright and they also sang shira so an interesting perish in that line in kenner yud yeah yeah so now the kiddush okay there's another yeah yeah okay so there's another line here which i don't think i would have made anything of um let's see if we can find it okay they send this is all in kenya umrah and they said and they they uh made fun of the choise kale the seers they they mock the navy so it sounds good to me sir if salvation also brings that there's lucas we showing him about this the issue of not following the direction of the navi so the rambam is that it's a terrible thing to mock an avi that's not the israel the torah according to the rambam in s in other words ramen wants to know what's the mitzvot the torah says i'm going to give you a navi and you have to listen to them but we know they're now to change the torah so why do you have to listen to them he's not coming to change religion he's coming to encourage you to observe the torah allah we already know we have to keep the torah the answer is that's the role of the navi the no the role of the navi is to encourage you to keep the torah you don't listen actually if he says it one time but nobody comes one time he says don't worry tom you do listen as a hiraj shah he could tell you to be oaker and it's a mr say if he tells you to eat khazer even as a hirasha then you don't listen but if not let's see nobody comes and says but then afghan meaning is if he says then you listen if he says i say you don't okay so but let's say he tells you to do russia he says this morning you can only eat whole wheat bagels he's not telling you to violate the torah even though it's a you know it's a jewish thing to eat regular regular bay but still it's not he's not telling him go here or don't go there make a war build a wall mitsubishi is that you have to listen to a navi and it has no nothing to do with mocking the navi rashi and sanhedrin that pay tests the way of salvation reads rashi which i'm not sure rashid remastered so i would have read rashi kipshutai it means you don't listen to the navi i guess the fact that rashi says the word hamath kiram that you make the words of navi so if salvation understands that means that you mock the navi it's not enough just not to listen no i'm not going you say hey you know you call him a name and you don't listen that's rashi learns it's two things maf kiram and lois mela when the when the mccain and says that the heliga the sita they mak the navi that seems to be going with rashi according to ram that's not an ingredient of oiver de vehanovi why is the mccoy name so you know we might have said i don't know he's being poetic he's no you know if if it's written by a reshun or early or atana then every word carries significance he's writing that because his cheetah in hanover is it's not enough not to listen it's uh it's necessary also to mock okay i'll tell you an interesting thing in the arts girl guinness they say that the first um the first kinna that talks about um a tragedy other than the corbin is which is akina about the crusade it's not correct says it's base and okay if you read kinetico base it's clearly talking about the destruction of the rishonim and the destruction of europe during the times of the crusades but there's a line here a very interesting line but i'll uh i'll start off with a following introduction it's a funny thing we know that rashi wrote on tanakh except for the veyhayama the raymond is now rashi rashi wrote on chas he's on the inside part of the page how do we know it doesn't say rashi he doesn't have to say rashford we know it's rashi there are a few there are a few exceptions where it does say rashi and then it's not rashi for example rashi on the riff is not rashi why because it says rashi it's false advertisement it's like you know there's always it says rashi it's not rashi rebellion was once giving sheer so he asked the theory to rush on the rift and rashi on the messiah and he said the answer is it's not a seer because rasheed on the rift is not rash the question is we know for sure is not rashi it says rashi it's not rashi it's somebody else and that's why that was one of the hardest massachusetts in the times of the gainim they didn't learn the sacrament they didn't have rashi now we have the rans the plants rashi and toys nazir is a very big mystery whether we message the of the maritzkios is it's not rashi however this hamed says it is rashi so that's the one case where you have macholicus is it rash or is it not rashi it's very interesting if you look in kenneth baez he's mourning he's bemoaning the kin the destruction of these communities there's a line here very interesting line he says let's see if we can find it oh my god big voice who could cut through the heights umiya satis baharim who could chisel out the mountains umiya fare kavyos who's going to answer our questions now meaning with the loss of the tamiya who's going to answer our questions um who's going to far end for all the broken pieces um who will be able to annunciate for us of naziros and who will be able to set forth for us the laws of nadaram so bishlam i understand who's going to set forth for us the laws of nadaram nadaram is every day of the year person could get in trouble with alhas nadaram for example if a person does a good thing three times it's together another and you have to continue unless you're matt or ned there or or if a person does a mitzvah if a person does a mitzvah and they don't say it's bolina there could be a mitzva it could be another you know i remember one time i was saying a certain thing and i don't want to say it anymore whatever i wanted to learn so i said fine it's better to learn you're very nice but it's a ned there so i got three people together i said i was doing a certain thing i was saying a certain thing and i did it because it's a good thing to do but i didn't realize it would take away from something else so i want to be mutually fine but you have to do it you have to know the christ find that so i understand with the loss of these tamil who's going to set forth resolution but what the world doesn't mean who's going to teach us we don't need anyone to teach our circles azir's nazir says not no yeah anymore you know i said there was there was another you ever hear you know the nazir in arts israel what and you shall i am right right who um his name was he was the father-in-law of rav goran and the father of rashar yash of cohen whatever the nazir he uh he was the editor of rav cook swarm it was called the nazir be resume he was the only nazir that there ever there was the last couple hundred years it was not negative they were known as the times of the the crusades and times of the reshina they're known as iran so what does it mean me aflinaziris so salvation says what do you think it means it means rashi never wrote a commentary on azer now had there not been the crusades probably a great person would have arose and filled the shoes of rashi and wrote a payroll would be understandable but because of the destruction of these communities me athlean is yours we're stuck with a massager that's very difficult to understand and decipher that's the meaning of the words miyafli naziris so just realize this morning then it comes out that uh this is a riot to the maritzkios that russia knows here is not nazir it's akasha on the pretty strong kasha on on the stachemed whoever the who wrote who wrote parikh bayes uh seems to be coinciding with uh supporting the of the maritz okay one last thought and uh we'll hold it let's see this is kinna lamidvav kinalam above this is a beautiful kennel this is written by one of the great pythanim rabbihood halevi the author of the kuzari the this is kinnatsuya in halois ali right levy was a great oyhave of eretz israel and you shall him so he says a line over here which is a little bit of a question and that is he says that in eretz israel is your neighbor what does that mean in arts israel the shrine is your neighbor presumably it means that god is close in yerushalayim or in eretz israel but here's the problem the problem is is the shrine on earth israel after the khorman is the shrine in israel because we know the of the rambam in space and the mizbayach was sanctified for that time and was sanctified forever i saw why don't we so that's the subject of live discussion either we're tami or we don't know the exact location of the mizbayach but the missing factor is not that the shelina is not there the shrine is there according to the rambam i says oh my of yerushalayim is eternal and the kedusha of the rest of eretz israel is battal why so the ramadan says the reason is is because of the shrina ushrina the taylor says because we conquered it but once therefore whatever he was maksik has kedusha and whatever he was not maksik does not have kedusa la maison what do we see from here that the shrina is only in the mikta but the shrina is not in the rest of israel so there's a question what rabbihood alevi means that in eretz you swallow the shrine is your neighbor well how's the neighbor if you live in slas he's not your neighbor he's not there so he's your neighbor because you shallam is neighboring by so the shailah is it because the bhita olivia argues on the rambam and he says the shrine is in all of ours israel or is he only talking about you shall i and when he says the shrine is your neighbor okay so like to just give you a little taste and flavor to the fact that besides uh the indian that the main indian of kenis is certainly to evoke the emotion for the tsar but really every line is uh contains tremendous halacha is and usoidois in torah and is the khelak of torah also so we should take a bizarre that uh believer ibrahim says that even when mashiach comes we'll still learn kinos as part of torah it's not going to be uh it's not going to be something to mourn but it's still a helicopter and the loan okay all right you've just experienced another torah class brought to you by torahanytime.com