Tisha B'Av 5782 LIVE - History Lecture

with words with the baits they called it the snake's oven vitimu they turned the oven into something impure tana we learned so on that day rabia lazer tried to prove every proof in the world that the oven was pure they did not accept it they decided that the oven was tummy the oven was impure rebellieser who we now know is a student of rebirth in fact he's one of the two people who carried the coffin out of jerusalem to meet vespasian to have him meet vespasian hospicianas rabbi eliezer says it's pure the rest of the sages say it's impure this is yavna what happened what type of oven was this the gemarya says taner what happened here what's the issue so the issue is rashi discusses this taiswas discusses it we have meseka's brachus the issue is so here you have a classic oven a tanner from that time this is an oven that's known as a tanner of harris it's made of earthenware it's a clay oven clay what is it made of like all clay harris earthenware you take earth you mix it with water you put in some straw you have a potter who molds it and you bake it in the furnace or you bake it in the sun that's how they made bowls and plates and cups and barrels and if you ever look mishnays and gemara clay harris occupies a major important role in halakhah because earthenware vessels as the passage says in shmini are susceptible to tumor if a source of impurity falls into the space and the cavity of an earthenware vessel let's say a barrel or a cup or a bowl it's tummy if there's a dead corpse in a in a house the clay carries his tummy if a sheriff say a dead weasel is suspended into the cavity of the clay carries into the bowl it becomes tummy and clay hair is unlike metal vessels gold silver iron metal unlike you cannot put it into the mikvah to purify it it's too porous as deposit says tan or vichirayam usats you have to break it you have to what happened to this oven you had this cylindrical oven and it's been smashed it's been smashed but it wasn't just smashed into pieces without symmetry every part of the oven it wasn't just smashed randomly into shards it was precisely cut into parallel cylindrical slabs as hazal say anywhere so you had now parts of the oven you see here but each one on its own is nothing what did they do they put it back together but they connected it through coil they put sand between each part between each cylindrical slab of the oven they put sand and that's how they connected the oven this was the oven called the snake-like oven one reason why it was called a snake-like oven almost looks like the snake every layer of it was like a snake surrounding it so there wasn't one cohesive oven this was an oven that was brought together from sand now sand is not macabre if you take sand and you turn it into a vessel you don't bake it it's called clay adama it's not macabre it's not susceptible to turmeric it's like stone it's like vessels they made out of dung cleo von neuma so the question is what's the status of this oven the oven was broken it became pure but now it was put back together with sand connecting the slabs the layers of the oven rebellies said this is no vessel this is pure this remains pure eye it looks like an oven it functions like an oven you know it's fake look at it it's just sand in between you take other sand there's no oven here sand is not my cobble tumer this is a broken oven artificially you put it together said sorry sorry this is clay harris this is an earthenware vessel it's true the sand connects it in between but the sand connects the earthing with pieces and therefore it is an oven it becomes impure no if this would have been a theoretical debate no the problem is a dead sheriff's fell into it nope they came to ask rebellieser he said no problem this is a broken oven so later they wanted to bake bread it was bread of truma it was sacred bread gevalt they had all this holy bread baked in this oven according to the azer it was all good according to the other sages you couldn't eat any of it it's all tummy it's all in pure because this tanner was atom of the katana this is what happened this we did let's see oven too this we also did okay the other guy made a snake ishikaya okay i guess this is the way somebody else decided the picture should be you could see this oven a big oven it's connected by sand layers of sand connect each row of the oven this is the tanur i guess another image even though i think the earlier image sounds more like it what happens now there's a huge debate this is a picture from 1870 i couldn't get a picture from 110 ce it wasn't available even on google but i got from 1870. okay a huge debate breaks out here's another one osa 1870. you get the point what happens let's see you would think he doesn't want the second paragraph on my lahem rabbaliezza says to his friends if the law follows me let this carrot tree kharov is boxer a carrot tree right near the yeshiva they had a carrot tree let this carrot tree demonstrate the carob tree uprooted itself from its own place and it moved away 100 cubits which would be between 150 and 200 feet others say 400 cubits which would be approximately 650 or 800 between almost 800 feet you would think they would be like wow omg we're not starting up with this man the oven is pure um they say no we don't bring proofs from carob trees to ascertain the halal of ovens because of um he says to them if the law is like me let the aqueduct of water like the stream the canal of water prove it so what happens is the aquiduct of water there's a canal of water a stream of water it's flowing in a certain direction it starts flowing backwards in the opposite direction you would think at now at this point they would be impressed we don't bring proofs from the water aqueduct says to them let the walls of the basement prove it he too slay bay samadrish lipoil the walls of the basmatis began to cave in on them they began to tilt as they're sitting what would you do at such a poor moment after the carrot tree is gone the water aqueduct is going in the wrong direction and now the walls are starting to fall what would anybody here do huh 911 what you would run home right yeah yeshua yeshua was a friend of rabbi eliase remember he took out the coffin with them they were buddies they were colleagues yeshua started to talk to the walls that's the expression talk to the walls he started to scream at the walls you don't talk the walls you scream at them and he says to the walls scholars are debating each other in jewish law why are you mixing in what are you getting involved for walls the walls did not fall down completely in the honor of yeshua they did not go back and stand erect for the glory of rebellion and the gemara adds three words and they're still tilted it's a very interesting comment one was gemura written the gomorrah this happens in the first century after the common era the qurban was in the year 70. this happens a few decades after maybe the beginning of the second century after the common era this is the generation of the tanoyam after the khurban student of course was rebellious prime student rabbi yeshua this is all after the corbin the gemara was written a few centuries later the gemara was considered completed in the fifth century after the common era so what's that mutton behind it the walls and yavana are still tilted till today you would think at this point somebody would calm down the situation and say it's time for dinner yeshua said it says like me you know what mean let heaven prove it yates is a basket of umrah a voice from heaven comes out and says what are you doing arguing with rabelia when we all know that is like him always everywhere what are you arguing with them of course the oven is pure you would think the carrot tree didn't convince them the water stream didn't convince them the walls didn't convince them but maybe god could convince them no it's a basket maybe the reborn of shalom has some say no not so parshat ahmad yeshua raglav yeshua stood up on his feet till now he was sitting this at least managed to get him up you see nobody got too excited at this point he gets up vyayama and he says there's a possible imperial glamour what does it mean it's not in heaven what does it mean it's not in heaven um once you gave the toyota from mount sinai a voice that comes from heaven will not replace toyota in the trailer it says impartial spottim follow the majority when there is a debate there is a debate here between the sages of the sanhedrin rebelieser is a minority one voice he says it's pure the majority says it's impure you told us a voice from heaven can't replace tighter lord by shamayimi it's not in heaven anymore the jurisdiction is on earth the majority says the oven is impure rabbi yeshua rejects the heavenly voice and says the oven is impure the gemara wants to make sure we get the story so the gomorrah says he met elijah the prophet oh my lord he asked him what was hashem doing at that moment when yeshua rejected the heavenly voice hashem was laughing smiling kvelling and stating my children have triumphed over me my children have defeated me it's kuni from the word nitsa they have won they have been victorious over mean it's kuni that's the end at least of this part of the story now i want to ask you a question okay they're not impressed by the miracles fine but the basketball who made that basket did they think it was a some disney world production no it was a basket from heaven in other words hashem said an opinion so i don't understand isn't all of halakhah isn't all of law to ascertain what the will of hashem is so you're arguing now with a heavenly voice hashem says this is the law and you're like what are you what are you what do you know about the law what does this mean how do we understand this so you could say heaven can't intervene but i don't understand why can't heaven intervene because no tired embarrassing i decided here so why does heaven say uh look it's not like him so hashem thinks that like him we decided not like him so now there's an argument very hard to understand some commentators say not necessarily here the safer mitzvah says something fascinating he says that this is how the system of terror works just to give a simple example to understand the safe if you're a doctor in a hospital and there's a debate about a certain patient and all of the doctors they take it to a vote and all the doctors feel you shouldn't do a procedure and you're alone and you feel you should do a procedure and you know you're right but you may respect the fact that everybody follows the majority because you know that in the future the one opinion may be wrong and this is the best system says maybe it was like rabbi eliezer but in every single situation you're going to have one person arguing it maybe he's right the best system is which in most cases is going to be right that's the safe rakhine's perspective rib nissim guyan and the beneficial give another perspective and a very fascinating one and they say this was exactly the point throughout history people will come and they might make miracles you might even hear voices from heaven you have to know that you have a precedent for this and say there foreign be a prophet who maybe do miracle may do miracles and then the prophet will go tell you to go engage in idolatry you shouldn't listen to him why he's making miracles so the rambam and he'll say the artery explains in chapter eight in chapter 9 and chapter 10 famous rambam that the basis of the authenticity of toyota is my mid-high sinai and my madhara sinai every signer every jew was there when a prophet comes and makes miracles the reason we listen to a prophet is not because we know for sure the prophet is saying truth to ram says sometimes not but because mushroom said that if he has this criteria you should listen to him why do we believe because with his every single jew saw the revelation there if the prophet is coming to undermine what happened at mohammed arsenal then he lost his whole authority so the same is true here he was giving them a precedent jewish history is going to be long there's going to be many opinions even in their generation there was somebody a few years before who came and supposedly did a lot of miracles and he changed the jewish religion he says he hears voices and what if he does hear voices and carob trees move and streams of water move and walls fall ain't getting this was the precedent i could say but my madhar sinai remains the truth the barometer of what is true and what is not true and a mahmoud are senate when moshe was appointed he gave them the torah and he told them the passage loybar shamayim he there's a mechanism of how to determine what halacha says in a particular issue where there is a debate of course you have to have it debated by the sages of sanhedrin who have the criteria of absolute mastery and adherence to torah and fear of heaven and when there is such a debate you follow the majority and that is exactly what the creator of the world wanted and all the miracles cannot and should not change that even not a basketball even not a voice and this is when they ascertained it and it secured the integrity of yiddish until this very day question i want to raise today is what are these three miracles a carrot tree moving an aqueduct of water streaming the wrong direction walls falling what what is the meaning of that is it just rebelles it's like we're going to take out all the tricks from the bag what is the meaning of this so you read it it's interesting why furthermore the shittima kobetsu's quotes rabbenu that this story was a dream it didn't happen in physical reality it was a dream the of quebec now you have to even understand that means the dream is truly significant what is the dream trying to convey not everybody agrees some people say this wasn't a dream this is exactly how it happened in physical the physical world but either this interpretation or another interpretation what is the meaning of this if you look in the kylie leo the vilnigan the vilnigan says something fascinating and he says success in toyota comes with three qualities quality number one histophus bemuette anova and vekus belimud the first quality for success and learning is i cannot be immersed and indulgent in materialism just doesn't go together you have to fine-tune your mind and your heart to the wisdom of torah if i am a glutton i become more crude i desensitize my body my soul my brain to turn to the second thing is humility if i have a vestige of arrogance narcissism toyota won't work the basis of terror is humility openness to truth infinity the third quality is openness to debate another opinion says in all three i have excelled first of all the carob tree the gemara says yeah the whole world gets sustained by him and he eats he's fine with a kav kharov with a little volume of caribs you ever ate caribs having a boxer it's not exactly the epitome of indulgence emma's you didn't ask your wife tonight to prepare boxer for after tish above yeah for your daughter's wedding you don't ask the caterer a viennese table from a carrob tree it's good for a shimmer man in the cave for 13 years at carob tree that was his point rebellion was a master of a person who was completely refined number two mayhem the gemara says water always searches for the lowest surface in my military humility number three i live in the base hamedrish the place of different opinions where things become clear through different opinions says i have mastered all these three things par excellence that was the symbol of these three elements you can accept my opinion in other words the bellezza's power of trader was unparalleled unprecedented on all three levels and still they said we get it but the majority disagrees rebellious puts it a little differently and he says teres this success center happens through three things the first is tradition the second is clarity of thought and the third is talking to people the groove the carob tree that gomorrah says in tightness to produce fruit sometimes takes 70 years that means you have to go from generation to generation it represents the power of tradition water and maya melatonin represents clarity crystal clear refined thought and the walls of the basal medusa are again the place of conversation and debate i excelled in all three the morale of process there's other commentators but today let's suggest another dimension or another two dimensions and i want to mention a colleague of mine rabbi david david foreman from the five towns alpha beta who gave a splendid series of lectures on this which i'm using here as well perhaps there is something much more profound going on right here these three signs are not just random they're extremely meaningful we spoke about this oven this oven the gamora describes as julios they put coil sand between hulia and julia julia is the slab the layer of an oven but really the word in hebrew means something else what does it mean it means vertebrae why are they calling it julia and the answer is look at the spine of a person the khuta shedra of a person is a spine and as ghazal say it's made up of the hulios are the vertebrae in fact the eighteen brothers of shemaina essera ghazal say are because of the utrecht julio is the eighteen vertebrae in the person this oven was not any more cohesive it was vertebrae literally vertebrae and it got shattered it got broken imagine a skeleton and you're looking at a vertebrae that's shattered and now you got to put it back together so you take sand and you put it in between the vertebrae that's exactly the words that khazal used to describe this which the rashi thais bring right here in the suggestion rebelezza says you did nothing it's a shattered oven it's pure it's broken it's pure it's nothing it's not an oven maybe quacks like a duck walks like a duck it's not a duck looks like an oven bakes like an oven it's not enough and it's broken you give a kick to the sand it's all over haha say it's an oven in in english it doesn't work but the word khoil and julia of course are connected right khoil means sand coil is connected to the word julia which is vertebrae sand is a grain of sand a grain of sand if somebody takes a vertebrae shallom shatters it and grinds it into little little powder you have like grains of vertebrates like grains of sand coil is a tiny grain of sand it's called the sample all the sand together on the beach one grain of sand on its own is not a lot but you bring together all the sand all the grains of sand together on the yam it's a lot and here they take the sand the coil the grains of sand and they connect the vertebrae the vertebrae of the ovens with it so tiny grains of some crushed substance becomes coil it's like if you could crush those vertebrae and turn it into coil use that fine powder to somehow put it all back together again that's the story now is it a coincidence that this oven ignited such debate you might say yeah punch this oven had the muzzle that they became a huge macho because and by the way at the end of this rebel ezra gets excommunicated rebellion disagrees with them he does not acquiesce he does not submit he does not surrender and the greatest of the sages rabbi eliezer who yeshua kissed the stone on which he sat in yavana and he said he said this stone is basically harshinai rebeliza sat on it this is the place where terror was given rebellion didn't submit at the end is it just a coincidence that there was an oven and they baked holy food and they had to burn the food and a huge debate ignited or this may be more to the story where did this debate happen yavna is just a few kilometers from the ocean you could go to yavana today and you could see it i was in yavana you could stand on the little hill in yavana archaeologists say that was the place where the basmatis with the yeshiva of gamliel of rebellious stood that place where the sanhedrin came back together and if you look from the top of that hill and you gaze towards the south coming towards you what do you see anybody here was yavin and yavana and the answer is you will see sand everywhere you will see hoyle just they even called it the sands of yavna you have uh dunes of of of of of earth of sand stretching down all the way down from ashkelon all the way up to yavna kilometers after kilometers miles of sand dunes that's physically but let's now take this one step further what do we say rosh hashanah i'm kipping asana taika if you remember adam you say they may offer with sci-fi la offer adam originates in earth adam ends in earth but man is not just earth it's earth that came to life it's earth that was baked in the fire of a soul of divine energy kaharis anishbar person is often compared to harris to shards of an earthenware vessel you say they may offer the soy philosopher that's individual of them what about the collective body of adam the first adam included all the souls isn't the story of the oven not just the story of an oven it's a story of a people if the julia the vertebrae of each slab of each cylindrical slab of the oven is a vertebrae one after another after another after another you have the spine you have the skeleton you have the binyan the rivinian of the human being and of knesses israel and it's filled with warmth and fire and life and heat it has a soul and then one day the oven gets shattered it gets broken it's devastated it doesn't seem that there's anything left from it and who knows that the end is near comes to vespasian and he says tainly what was yavna if not essentially trying to put back this oven together trying trying to take this haris bar and turning it into a full vessel that's productive that's meaningful that's useful that has a significant reality using the coil using sand the sands of yavana and using little grains of sand that don't seem very significant to put the layers back together at the end of massachusetts brachas khazal called the yeshiva in yavina kerembiavna right the vineyard of yavna the more then the brachus describes when they came to the caribbean what they said allah it's funny because literally why is it called a vineyard tarashi says because the sages were sitting rows in organized rows like a vineyard vine after a vine after a vine in rose on a physical level if you go to yavna there's no vineyard you can't plant vineyards there's sand everywhere you can't make a vineyard there you plant in the sand and a wind comes and it's gone with the wind you can't plant there there's no vineyards there it's one of the most infertile places imaginable from a geological from a botanic point of view but what is true botanically is true spiritually and yet they created a place called the vineyard of yavna on the sands of yavina they made a vineyard blossom and here was the big question is it successful is this a real oven is this a real kaley is this a vessel that can become impure because it's a true vessel it's not just a broken piece rebel said it's not it's not a real vessel said it is a real vessel what are the bases of civilization what makes a civilization civilized you say here is a civilization that's successful what is civilization how do you answer that question civilization requires three things three levels the carrot tree the aqueduct of water and the walls of the basamadrash the first basic element of civilization is that which is naturally there for the taking imagine the old hunters the old foragers gatherers they just live by what is so you have carobs growing that's a source of nutrients if you have grapes growing the first layer that makes civilization is we rely and we're nurtured and we're sustained by that which exists due to nature that's the carrot tree there's the second layer to civilization we come and we use our brains and we build tools to advance our life quality to lengthen our lifespan to give us more of the resources that we would like to make and to have we build hammers we build knives we build swords we build canals we build aqueducts i need more water so i channel the water this is the exploitative successful of the human success of the human brain to advance civilization and it's a higher state i'm not just relying like the gorilla or the reptile or the other mammal or the rodent or the reptile the fish or the bird or the mammal on what is but human brain develops tools to further what is and then civilization reaches yet a deeper level and that is when i can take what is and i can take my tools and i can begin to fashion institutions that become places in which my dreams are facilitated our values our priorities those are the basics of community of civilization rebellion comes and says look at the jewish people and you'll see none of this exists anymore the caribbean has been uprooted the aqueduct of water is going in the opposite direction the walls of the basement when humanity comes together to build ideas dreams institutions homes families communities yeshivas libraries centers of academia of learning of study it's all gone we don't have our natural resources we don't have independence we don't have creativity yes the oven was put together with sand but it's not a real oven it's a haris bar and therefore halachically also it's not susceptible to tumor because something that's broken can't become impure because there's nothing to impurify it's just broken it doesn't have value for something to become imperial has to have value the sages disagreed says ask god let's hear what god says and a voice says of course is right when you're looking at history it's obvious that you know we're trying to make some replacements we're trying to get another couple of years we're trying to do some nice things but fundamentally fundamentally this civilization sadly and tragically has come to an end this is what the laws of nature dictate and it's at such a moment that we can appreciate this moment we can appreciate what happens remember yeshua stands up and he says first of all i'm not impressed for the carib i'm not impressed by the water i'm not impressed by the walls and then he looks at heaven and he says terra loy bashamaya me i want to tell you something we are creating a new type of civilization we are creating a new type of reality we are revolutionizing history i know heaven has its plan of what civilization looks like but we have created a lifeboat as the titanic of jewish history perhaps has sunk we created a live boat ahref we created a real oven yes it's made of grains of sand yes it's held together by something that seems so mortal and frail and weak but i want to tell you that there's real life here this is a real oven this is a real caylee this is of real value this is of real significance don't think that the jewish people and judaism have come to an end because what's happening in yavin is that even from a physical point of view we have nothing there's no epicenter there's no land to call ours we're being persecuted we're being harassed we have suffered terribly we're left literally without leadership without an infrastructure physical and spiritual nonetheless in yavner we are creating something what are we it's here that we can go back to rabbi and zaki and understand what he meant when he said what was he asking for vespasian said yes why aspersionist was the roman emperor he asked himself what is this old you asking for basically sand he's asking for something that's meaningless why shouldn't i give him well we're going to have a little steeple there with a couple of people sitting with a few texts and arguing with each other who cares let him have it what do i care what was vespasian really doing he was really signing his own death certificate he was signing rome's death certificate he couldn't know it isn't that the metaphor of rebecca manzaka going out of jerusalem feigning himself to be a dead man when you look at the coffin what do you see a dead man what was really inside a living person when the vespasian gives what was he giving him in his mind he was giving him a coffin he was giving him sand something infertile something non-substantial so they're going to sit in the houses of yavana and discuss royam moyes zikan kochim paris they're going to immerse themselves in the laws of peya or sviaz or kalayim or khala o bikurim or lahi or aravin or kaira the laws of him kipper the laws of zvachim hulen airkin tomorrow crisis the laws of allah's tumus isle the laws of tomas scalim the laws of tanner the laws of tumus para duma the laws of tomas aikshuksen that doesn't count for anything that's meaningless let them do it let them train students that way rome is the future vespasian was very logical tendli i'm giving him sand i'm giving him a coffin and that is the jewish people without bringing the sheep every morning and every afternoon to the base to offer it they may survive they may not survive but if they stop learning about the two sheep if they don't learn anymore his carbon tomato mustafin laws of ghaghi in the laws of the laws of jerusalem and the laws of traumas and maestrous the laws of the vasanas and the laws of country kalim and katja kadashim and pigel and neuser and the laws of kayanim if they don't learn it for sure they won't be able to survive moments before his death he started to cry he said i don't know am i going to gannaden am i going to gehennam before a person passes they say their whole life flashes by before them in a few moments and sometimes you lived a good life very good life you did amazing things but sometimes there's one moment in a person's life and you don't know if you'll ever be able to forgive yourself for that moment i lived an incredible life but there was one moment he questioned that moment when he stood in front of the most powerful person in the world and the man said tell me what you want and i'll grant it to you and rebi asked for three things but now moments before he left his soul moment moments before he left his body he asked himself one question that i fail my people that i betray my people am i ultimate guilt am i ultimately guilty for the state of the jewish people today because had i had the courage had i had the audacity had i had the guts i would look him in the eyes and impress upon him to spare us the base hamiktus because of me indirectly the bassamites was destroyed indeed maybe i will go to gahannam because of me i was the one i am the one who carries the blame the guilt and some of you know what jewish guilt can be like especially in the women's section i am the one who carries the jewish guilt for the destruction of the jewish people of course i will go to gehenna and then moments later he said make a seat for his history is the one who watched sanchez come and exile 10 tribes of israel and they're gone they're gone until today 150 years before the destruction of the first base amigdas the ten tribes were exiled and assimilated and it's one of the incredible things in jewish history that in 150 years the majority of the jewish people got lost and we still don't know where they are and who they are even though every few sundays another theory emerges and hiskey was next sanchez came to conquer yehuda and shavna told hiskey to surrender there's no hope surrender sanchez is the man give in acquiesce but friskier did not and that famous plague that killed 180 thousand troops of sanchez the first night of pesach as the tanakh record saved yerushalayim physically saved yerushalayim and now it was his gear from all people who came back to rib and zaka and said i'm here to escort you you're not guilty for the destruction of your shalom you're the one who is responsible ultimately for saving yerushalayim because as long as those sands of yavna will be put into that oven of knesses yisrael that oven will remain vibrant alive in its dreams and its memories and its love and its passion and its faith in its torah and its because he understood yavin is powerful it's powerful in a way that fastpasian will not notice its power but for the lifeboat to survive and for the lifeboat to be able to carry the people through a turbulent sea until they can come to their destination they have to remember very clearly where they come from so we had the dynasty of ramgam leo which reminds them about their leaders and their kings all the way back to david yehuda and gets the doctor for abzadik because people who cry for something 40 years don't forget it so fast rept sadiq and his prayers won't allow them to forget abbas amigner yerushalayim with ram gamlill's dynasty alive and reptsadic amongst this is not just a substitute for the old this is a continuum of the old through so comes there and says you didn't sacrifice yerushalayim you saved yerushalayim you rebecca no gehennam is not your place ghanadin is your place because if 2000 years later seven million jews today came yearbook live in erits israel and speak the language they spoke during the time of zakah i assume if anybody from present day iran meet somebody from the persian empire who lived 2400 years ago and you put them together in a room somebody from today's iran and somebody from the persian empire of cyrus and you put them together in a room unless they both have iphones and one of them don't because 2500 years ago they didn't have it if i'm not mistaken they won't have anything to talk about and you put somebody today from egypt with somebody from the ancient egyptian empire from 3 500 years ago i don't know if they'll have anything to talk about but you take any jew you put them in one room with a jew who lived two thousand years ago they'll have a hundred things to argue about including the tana especially if one of them learned of both of them lurk mishnays if after two thousand years millions of jews can live today in nature australia and live as jews inaudible on different levels and different categories with all the debates how did it happen it only happened because in yavin they never stopped talking about kedushas remains so vibrant in jewish words and jewish life a jew came home from a hard day of work in poland in galicia in hungary in ukraine in lithuania in russia in western europe and opened up a hummish or a mishnayis or any other safer of torah gemara and suddenly he or she was spiritually in yavna which means they were spiritually in yerushalayim in the basal migration civilization wasn't over it lived but it lived in a different way they didn't have sovereignty they didn't have an army they didn't have a country but it lived in words and it lived in ideas and it lived in passion and it lived in prayer and it lived in learning and it lived in actions and it lived in mitzvos and it lived in rituals and it lived in yeshivas and it lived in education so rabinosa meets elio navi and he says what did hashem do when the yeshua disagreed with the heavenly voice he said hashem started to laugh and said my children were victorious over me they created something to take such a dark moment and transform it into a catalyst and a springboard for eternity this is something absolutely unique there's a trajectory of how history works their civilization came to an end but when they stood up and said loy basham ayami we are going to recreate everything on the sands of yavner and the oven will continue to pulsate heat life warmth and passion it won't be a haris hanesbar it will be adam adam doesn't only mean victory it comes from the word eternity says the maritz they took the terror they took me and they turned me into something eternal into something nitriz why without that moment any charlatan in history and there have been many came up and declared that they heard voices from heaven and maybe they did or they showed miracles fictional or reality to prove that you have to uproot targa but at that moment it's kuni says the maritius they turned the turret into something nitsy uzdik they turned me into netzach eternity nothing can vanquish it nothing can eliminate it nothing can destroy it nothing can compromise it over thousands of years the immune system of yiddish kite is so powerful why it's hunibanai from the basham gave a mechanism how you know what is tied to what is not it follows that mechanism that's articulated in terror loyabi rabbis and in that way its eternity is guaranteed and thus the eternity of the jewish people is guaranteed because ha bahatalia one depends on the other so they made me eternal they may turn the eternal and in that process they also make themselves eternal it's kuni and i would just add maybe on a spiritual mystical note the debate has profound ramifications for human beings in that generation and in all generations including today's generations there was a writer who once said life breaks all people okay not all many and then some people know how to live in broken places better than others marshall kejeres life breaks people clay harris the oven breaks what happens it was the students of the toys first heaven was created before earth basil says earth was created before heaven ere it's called mulla big argument that blessed followed basham by the others followed basilo the argument goes back to madrid partially rep simon said when hashem wanted to create the world it was a huge fight what was the fight truth on one side on the other side kindness said create the human being people are kind at least some truth said don't create the human being because everybody is always lying male ishkar the human being is full of lies what did hashem do he took earth he hurled it into the ground truth grows from the earth why is it because it's tif by grabbing in the air it's deep buried and it's buried deep in the earth so it has to grow from the earth why because god took emes and he threw it into the earth what's the meaning of that that's a great way of handling a debate right you have an opinion somebody else has another opinion why don't you take them and throw them under the earth of course i won the debate what ex type of explanation is that there's a powerful explanation of the balatanya and he says as follows there's two versions of truth there's heavenly truth and there's earthly truth what happens when you take something and you throw it to the ground it usually shatters it breaks into pieces take a piece of glass take a piece of earthenware and throw it hard to the ground it will shatter into pieces there's truth of heaven and this truth on earth truth of heaven is uniform truth of heaven is absolute truth of heaven is holistic truth of heaven is objective and then there's truth on earth truth on earth is very very different we all have a little piece of it nobody has all of it together we can recreate it truth in heaven is very strong and powerful truth on earth is vulnerable truth in heaven means truth that's absolute non-negotiable truth on earth is this is my experience you may have a different experience whose experience is right if you're married whose experience is right if you're single whose experience is right somebody sent me a clip the other day there was a wise man and he said to his wife nothing because he was a wise man truth in heaven could be absolute truth on earth is broken i don't have the full perspective of reality do you i don't have the full vision of reality do you when i listen to somebody i don't know everything about them do you we're tempted to think we know and therefore we judge we condemn pretty swiftly but that's sheker shin kufresh are all letters that right they exist right near each other because my vision is so narrow ms aleph is the beginning mem is the middle tough is the end because truth needs a full holistic perspective can you see the beginning can you see the middle can you see the end if not be humble be very humble truth in heaven says don't create the human being people lie by definition they lie not al m as vishlich hashem said you have to appreciate the earth the earth is truth earth truth comes from brokenness comes from failure comes from stumbling blocks it comes from taking your brokenness and using it as a springboard for renewal for truva for healing it's coil it's earth it's mundane yes i'm achin and then i take the coil the earth i take the stuff from which i was created and i fill in the gaps and i try to create an oven out of it you create achilles rebellieser heaven wins blessed hey this is garnished this is a joke this is a mockery there's no value here it's tommy rebels indeed was a soul of heaven but the sages disagreed they said rebellion you know for you the world is a heavenly place carrib trees move aqueducts of water move in the opposite direction walls tilt and fall even heaven speaks on your behalf but allah the truth that we come to that we aspire to is the truth of the human experience it's a truth of human vulnerability it's the truth of a human being aspiring moots of artsa virus through the coil hamadil bein kaidesh liquel kadush's heaven aloof coil is earth sand in yavna yavna they created this reality that everybody said was destroyed how do you call a carib tree in hebrew kharoov what does kharov mean destroyed corbin as kharov said look at the carrot tree and you'll see there was a corbin there was destruction but said no we created something called yavna and what are the letters of yavna yibona the opposite of groove is corbin and javanese is the same that is like corbin is the beginning the invitation to rebuild we could rebuild we rebuild with our sand but we rebuild that ms is very powerful it's very deep it's very genuine it means when you wake up in the morning and you feel you're tormented you're shattered you're fragmented you're broken you look like the carob tree and you can't even stay in one place like the carrot tree you're uprooted the amazon you can't even go in one direction now you're going in the opposite direction you thought you had stability and suddenly your walls are falling on you they're caving in and at that moment you want to surrender to depression you want to surrender to despair you want to surrender at least to cynicism to melancholy yeshua raglav yeshua stands up on his legs even the heavenly voices seem to agree with rabbi eliezer the story has come to an end ahmad yeshua of omar torreira sinai there was a gift given at her sinai that the human being the oda madame adam you say they may offer he or she in the depth of your own identity lay helical the power of the child is sometimes deeper than the power of the father and as the great master says also that itself comes from the father and yet it brings out in the father something that the father himself was unaware of that's this gemara the reborn of shalom says where did they get tyra basha miami from hashem and yet we bring out yaffe the child brings out something in the father kimayoko that the father himself doesn't bring out in a revealed way then it's which is why the month is called not of menachem but menachem of of menachem literally means the father comforts what does menachem of mean you comfort the father there's something about the child who has the ability to comfort the father to comfort the mother god is light god is uh god is eternity and then god allows the jewish people to be plunged into a place of brokenness and darkness there's no light anymore there's no hope anymore the era is over come the jewish people the peace of hashem that was sent into darkness and they say kakashikara we will show you that transformation is not only capable but it's the truth we bring out a deeper truth that transforms the darkness and to light the despair into hope the eclipse into luminescence and the night and today and hashem says and if i think back now i think you might agree with me that of those people sitting in the basement in yavina watching the carrot tree being uprooted watching the aqueduct of water flowing in the wrong direction watching the walls tilt and hearing a voice that says rebellion is right if those sages those few individuals sitting there in the basement one thousand nine hundred and twenty or thirty years ago i don't know the exact date in the vineyard of yavner and they would look today at the lifeboat at the live boat that rabbi benzakhai created in yavina ibonna what would they say that group of people karen biavna would look at the live boat today and i can assure you that just like god was smiling they too would be quelling and they would say almost two millennia later through thick and thin times with persecutions unprecedented unprecedented in the annals of human and jewish history the groove was turned into yavna the jewish people not only survived but thrive and despite the perils all around us and despite the dangers all around us and despite the doubts the questions the dilemmas the challenges the fact remains that two thousand years later knesses israel not only lives but knesset's his role grows classes through all dreams classes israel builds knesses historical loves classes is all believes and classes is all is united as ever with ever increasing and everlasting strength deeply connected to torah deeply connected to mitzvahs deeply connected to yavna yerushalayim and the basamignus just in a few hours from now i was given the honor and the balshemptev's show not far from here to put in some stones that were brought over last week from the one bunker that they discovered in the war seghetto if you ever visit warsa now you'll see the germans got rid of the ghetto completely but they discovered a few weeks ago the bunker of mardukai anna levitz who was one of the people who arranged the warsaw ghetto uprising in april 1943 the first night of pesach in the bunker they found fillon just now and they found other svardam of tyra a few bricks from that bunker were brought over here to muncie together with bricks from shulls and another 15 shulls in poland that were burned destroyed and the entire community massacred and three holocaust survivors ages a hundred ninety nine and a hundred and one la richthos are gonna put in the stones and he reminded me that marshall says it says megillah said that all the shulls and the midrashes of the diaspora are going to be moved over there to israel so the marshal says and they're all going to be attached to the base amigners they're all going to be extensions of the basal mechanism i guess that's where they'll be placed so those who are worried you're going to lose your seed in shul and for some jews that can be a serious thing so this show it's not a problem because you're anyway losing your seats every few days because buildings go up buildings come down tents go up tents go down so you never know what's happening so it keeps everybody safe but there are other schools where you have a seat for 29 years and i dear the jew who sits down on your seat especially rosh hashanah yom kippur so the martial says don't worry about it you're going to have your comfortable seat it's going to be an extension of the base amiga dish let's hope it doesn't go too far in the outskirts of your shallow so everything will be fine so as these bricks come over from those places to shulls here in america those shoals because will becomes become extensions of the basal migration now here is a letter the founder of the balshemptiv rabbi david lichtenstein sent me a letter that he got from a jew in the warsaw ghetto and he sent it to me i take a look i happened to know that jew very well his name was dr hillel zeidman hillar zeiden was an old yiddish writer and i knew him you remember hilo zeidman shalom so he sent me a letter that zeidman wrote in the ghetto if i would have this house to take a few of these bricks and bring them over territorial that's what he hoped for in 1940 in the early 40s he was saved most of the jews of warsaw were killed i think he has a son who lives here in muncie actually he's here okay what do you have to ruin it for ms ah ms very good thank you for listening so these bricks are coming over now but it's bricks are bricks they're significant but it represents something very powerful it represents that that which is made from the coil from the sand that which is made from mortar that which is made from mud that which is made from earth the jewish people managed to hold it alive and to resurrect it and to make sure that eternity is guaranteed until the great moment when the sanhedrin and yavna and usha and tvaria and sipoiri and all the ten places that goes to sanhedrin for shiva shivtayaki and the live boat will be restored to the real source of sustenance to the ultimate place of knesses israel and claudius the bs mashiach thank you thank you for coming oh