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Thou Shalt Not Cook a Kid in Milk, or a Lamb in Butter
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The topic of this next peri
is
the laws of so we gave a tiny bit of an
introduction to
in the
but I think it's now to delve in a
little bit more specifically into the
of the of
[snorts] so it doesn't say anywhere in
the
together. What it does say in the Torah
is
you not let a cook a goat in its
mother's milk. And the terra doesn't say
it once. The terra doesn't say it twice.
The Torah says it's from learned that
not only are you not let it cook
you now let it eat
now let
and it's not only a with its mother's
milk but it's true for all of and it's
from the three mentions of this and the
we know this
of the
if you think about the
from autra perspective
I think it's fascinating the questions
the observations literally jump off the
page number one you're not let together
yet the never said that you're not let
to eat [snorts] of together the said
three times and from the extra mentions
we know that not only you're not allowed
to cook together but you're also not let
together but at the end of the The Tory
never said, "Thou shalt not eat bos."
The Tyra said, "Thou shalt not eat. Thou
shalt not eat. Thou shalt not eat."
The Tyra said, "Thou shalt not eat the
thou shalt not eat the all the things
that eat." The Tyra says, "Thou shalt
not eat." The Tyra never said, "Thou
shalt not eat." At first glance, what's
additionally why does the say it only
with regards to the
gi
that the reason the Mishna says is
because you would have thought from
being maybe it's only the goat but as it
relates to all other animals and I would
have thought maybe not
that is going to be but from a
perspective why does the say also why
does it say
with its mother's milk. Was its mother's
milk after doing anything? Now that a
cheeseburger whether the cheese was made
from the animals mother's milk or was
made from the animals mother's milk.
Here's another question. The does not
mention the ini which is the primary
where the talks about all the latter
part of it doesn't say it over there. It
doesn't say it there. Where does it say
it? It says it in paratim. It says in a
paris and then the third time it says in
a par. Now to be fair in par it is
mentioned in the context of in fact the
beginning of the is
right and that's how we end that but in
par in there it is lumped together with
but in par which is the parish of it's
not mentioned it's even more than
The Tyra mentions it twice in
terra mentions it in paras
and then literally two paras later in
parisa
which if you add that to the one in par
that's the three mentions that we have
why would the mention it twice in
succession so close to each other in
such close proximity why mention it
three times three time how many things
say in the three times not a lot Three
three times. Why would the per mention
this uh three times? Also, you haven't
noticed the context in which it's
mentioned in parishes and parisa. It's
the identical context. It's talking
about the
It's the same exact thing.
Right?
All three times it ends in but again
the two times it's mentioned in it's
mentioned in the context of the REGAL
AND IN THE SAME AS THE WHAT IN THE WORLD
IS going on over here it's
I don't think there's a that's more
again we know what is without learning
the peric this is not a spoiler alert if
it is you got to go back to we know Jews
not let eat meat and milk together right
this is alf
doesn't say anyway and milk together. It
says
with all these different at first glance
it's it's really really something that
from
perspective is hard to make sense of.
Truth is if you take a look at the
nothing fancy just open up the sculus
and get to work. If you take a look at
the rishim, it's very very clear that
all the rishim without fail maybe with
the exception of rash, but all the were
very very bothered by this
that if you go through the you're going
to find so many different in terms of
what the
of the
is just to bring out the point a little
bit
And
mysteriously,
but they all say that the reason the
said
of the laugh, not the buser
of the laugh, but the laugh is because
for a person to take an animal and cook
it in its mother's milk is mid.
It's the sakarius. In fact, all three of
these great paranzra
of which is all based on that is
supposed to be civil and you're supposed
to be sensitive even to the and as a
result it's you're going to go ahead and
you're going to
That's a
because it's in the same vein.
Don't go ahead and cook the goat in its
mother's milk. And that is what the is
coming to teach me. The shik is not
coming to say don't eat meat and milk
together. That's in the but in the what
the is saying is don't be anx
is not
just like
right that's where it is because these
are or it is a that's related less to
and it's related more to has to
And he has to be sensitive even to the
it's related to and it's related to the
idea of in fact adds he says that
why is it that in
the put it in the context of the regalum
I think it's very simple because during
the people used to sh a lot of animals
right it was very it's very festive
you're shocking a lot of animals that
you're shocking a lot of animals so it's
FOR THAT REASON THAT'S when it's It's
appropriate to you know tell me what is
this reminiscent of where does it say
we made a big deal about this in par
right before the parish of the dear too
right
it's mentioned right before the parish
of the why is it mentioned over there
again speak out because in the context
of the mayad when there's a lot of
cabbon that are being brought so you
have to know what to be sensitive of but
fraud you know when there's so much
happening so you may tend to be a little
less sensitive So therefore the needs to
warn you and the says you know be
careful today's the day you're going to
shack all these
right
has to say
right because time that's when you have
to be a little bit more careful in that
same vein says the that's why it's being
mentioned in the context that's why it's
being mentioned in the context
of that's why it's being mentioned the
context of the regal another mahal in
the in terms of understanding
understanding
of
is in the
says that I believe it's he brings that
he thinks it's like the
but he says if you want a I'll tell you
the best I can come up with the says
that that
the way a woman when she's nursing
produces milk the dam which would have
been the dam is
we know but obviously when the dam
becomes at that point it's not a problem
says I believe that when
is cooked together with basar there's
some chemical reaction that happens to
the where it gets the traits the latent
traits of dam that are hidden inside of
it and it brings out the dam and that's
why the Torah said don't cook meat and
milk together and then eat it because if
you're going to do that you're going
violate the dam. This is what says why
is he mentioned in the context of the
regalum says because we know that if a
person eats it creates a we spoke so
much about this in the beginning of the
right it creates a male and on that's a
time with a of in the world when the
used to be and they used to literally on
some level
so in order to be able to tap in for
your antennas to be sharp so you need to
make sure you have no timal so it's
during that time that the Tyra gives
this extra warning, this extra and says
because you're going to reinvigorate the
that's inside and you're GOING TO END UP
BEING over the
if you take a look at the
this is a mitzvah
the says that if you want to understand
take a look at what I wrote
on the
I took a look over there the discuss
uses how one of the ideas of Kish was to
somehow mess around with the order of
the world. Created the world with a
certain order. Limu is mentioned several
times in the story of creation, right?
Hashem wanted everything to be in a in a
certain order. Theashin used to take two
things that are supposed to be, you
know, traveling on independent tracks
and they would merge them together. And
that says the is part and parcel of
ancient kish. This is part and parcel of
what they used to do. And when a person
messes around with the law and order of
the world, what he's essentially doing
is he's somehow messing with the way
wants the world to operate. That's the
of
because it literally it alters it causes
nature to deviate and to go off track.
But anytime you take two minim and you
merge them, you're infringing on this
concept of kish. And he says that's why
the mashin used to love to do this. He
says that's why the ter makes a big deal
about not wearing shnesses. Who cares if
you wear se and pisham together. It's
because sear is supposed to be sear and
pisham is supposed to be pisham. You're
not supposed to put them together.
That's why you're not supposed to sew
two seeds that are different together.
That's why you're not supposed to mate
two different types of animals. And
that's why you're not supposed to eat.
So it says
cooking taking these two independent uh
things and merging them together that's
already getting involved in this concept
of and it's for that reason this is
something that's that's very very if you
take a look at the you won't believe
what you're going to see. You know what
the says one of the he says why is it
that
what
says
There's no way to reconcile this with
doesn't make sense. meaning. So why does
or what does the term mean when it says
he says the word bishel means mature
right
it means that it's not cooking cooked
the peris but they're fully ripened
they're complete they're in this uh
complete stage of state of maturation
says the
what the means when it says
it says time and you have to bring
carbonus you need a lot of animals.
You're going to have an animal and
you're going to say, you know, I'm not
going to shuck this animal now. Let me
wait till the animal is a little older.
Let me wait till it's more mature. It'll
be more appropriate to go. Let me wait
until it stops nursing from its mother.
Says the
don't wait until your is until it's
fully mature until after it completed
nursing its mother. No, you should go
ahead and bring it as a carbon right now
if you need it as a carbon says the
that's why it's in the same as the
as SOON AS IT STARTS to be immediately
you don't say let me wait until it's
this big fancy watermelon no you take it
right now
and in the same exact vein
talk about the truth is this says I
found in
But you know I found it in the paris not
in fact
learns about he says no it's it's but in
from what he wrote in in [snorts] parish
and all of a sudden he throws out the I
think it's because
couldn't understand why the ter would
have to talk to me twice in we know why
the ter to me twice and thrice but
Why would the terror tell me a second
time? So the said the first the first
time the terror mentions it. Come on.
We're pushing our look over here. Oh,
but the second time already there I
could hear it. The truth is if you take
a look at the infus
also not in parl I think the is
but if you take a look listen to what he
says
also a big
a man is not let him marry
so if a man dies and he leaves over
ammon and she was a man she's in the
middle of nursing so she's not married,
right?
Remember the we had some rabbites from
the used to say that he never passed
about because he was always afraid. He
was afraid to get involved because
there's different claws that were said
about this. But the bottom line is
don't cook in a pot that your friend
cooked in.
Don't marry your friends.
As long as which is the child needs her
mother's milk, his mother's milk. If a
child is nursing,
then don't go ahead and be. In other
words, that's a kino. It's a euphemism.
Don't go ahead and marry her. Don't
marry a woman that's nursing a child.
Not a not a not a it's not even bishop.
Now, where does the task say again?
Because
it's bothering. Why is the telling to me
a second time? It must be there's
another to be had over here. But now is
running off course that in the these are
the saying that doesn't have anything to
do with the love of
perhaps the most famous in the
is the
where he talks about all these things
where he discusses the mitzvah and the
ra over there says I don't know for a
fact imagine the raises I don't know for
a fact right there's like a mirror the
ram he says but I will tell you what my
gut is telling me my gut is telling me
that once upon a time when the used to
convene and when they used to get
together specifically [snorts] on their
yamim they would take a goat and they
would cook it in maybe their mother's
milk and this must have been some form
of pagan worship and the is talking to
the yidden and it's telling the I don't
want you to engage in the avoid of the
pagans and THEREFORE DON'T DO THIS NOW
WHERE or when did the pagans do it they
did
and they used to do it on their
holidays. That's why when the talks
about
you're going to be so then that the says
oh you remember the way they used to be
those pagans they used to take a goat
and they would cook it in their mother's
milk you should not do that
but it's mentioned in the context of the
says the ra now the ra says I don't know
this for a fact and in fact the raom
adds to that he says I didn't find it in
any of the books of the sabah.
So who was the sabah? So these were the
desire that talks a lot about in the
remember
on we talked about the book nabatian
agriculture which believe it or not
somehow survived some uh 11th or 12th
century uh Arabic translation of it. But
the bottom line is the Ram says that he
had the book and he read it and when he
read the book he understood a lot of the
because he was able to see some of the
pagan customs and some of these
what exactly they were referring to. So
the says I went through you know those
right the says and every book that was
on the topic that was written in Arabic
he read but the says that I read that
those books and I didn't find any
mention of this he says but I'm tell you
what this is my gut says I think that
this must have been some pagan custom
and because of that the said
truth is if you take a look at the in
all three places that the says
the says this idea in The Sephora says
something beautiful. The Sophernist says
that the pagans they used to go ahead
and they would uh cook a goat in its
mother's milk or something like that.
And the reason they did it was cuz they
believed
that it would cause their peris to grow
better
that if you want your peris to grow
better, you don't go ahead and get
involved in these uh pagan inim. If you
want your peris to grow better, you know
what you're supposed to do? You're
supposed to take and you're supposed to
bring it to the like said
that's going to give you
that wants in his payrise. You know what
you're supposed to do
and that like said
don't get involved in that craziness.
It's interesting the says
he says it again. So in both times he
says it in the context of Paris in par.
He says it again there doesn't say a
word about Paris.
It would work for their behemoths. Why
is he talking about behemoths? Cuz this
is the one time where it doesn't say it
together with
what's the context over there. It's
embarrassing about all the beah you're
not let
so again. Oh, so must be because there
was an element that it was a school for
and there was an element there was a
school for cattle. So, as it relates to
Paris,
as it relates to Mikah, when I'm talking
about different animals and different
foods that you're allowed to eat, dear,
don't engage in this. That's not
something that you're supposed to do.
But the bottom line is is that if you go
through all these uh different
it's fascinating how every region is
trying to come up with
means as opposed to just saying I don't
know
every child knows that you're not let me
together it's theor is to cook the goat
and its mother's milk it's from
It's related to I mean you have the
that says that don't [snorts] wait until
the animal gets older before you go
ahead and it's related to the is to go
ahead and marry a manus wow
that there must have been some pagan
custom around the times of their
festivals where they used to go ahead
and do these mices the said this was
like a big schooler back in the day
schoolers so this was like one of their
big schoolers They used to say he gibbi
and all of a sudden boom that pis are
going to grow and all of a sudden all
their cattle is going to multiply and
the terrorist telling you don't do that
you want a schooler go to the go to the
base of mikdash that's where your school
is going to be but the bottom line is
the bottom line is all these different
they're all coming because in the in the
there's so many that jump off the page
that almost force us to say that the
now how each shot answers all the
affforementioned cautious that's
homework that's
way beyond the scope of this rabbi but
again just to bring out the general
point you know there's one very
interesting thing and that is if you
open up and you take a look at the what
do you think says
right is the
what do you think says ready
don't eat. Don't eat a cheeseburger.
That's what says. And by the way, all
three places that it says in the
says the same thing.
And the truth is
they're very bothered. If you have the
safer parag, and you can take a look, he
has [snorts] there. They're all very
bothered. They don't understand.
I mean that tried so hard to make the
work with the they're all saying these
it's a fascinating discussion and by the
way if you go through and it's also
insightful to understanding's job and
his in terms of the way things happen
but I just want to end with one
fascinating postcript and that is I saw
in the tish I saw you like this you have
to make a beline to you have
And by the way, the real place to make
the beline is the muim because he has
fascinating and this, you know, is going
to be a topic. So sure enough, I saw in
the back of
and it's uh
in his he has a whole he brings on top
of top of in terms of understanding the
and then he brings something
fascinating.
He says that between the years 1921 and
there was a very important
archaeological find in Syria. They found
tablets that today are known as the
yugaric tablets. I hope I'm saying that
right. But the Ugaritic tablets and
these tablets and the texts on the
tablets they trace themselves back to
the times of the
And there's one line. I'll read it in
English because I don't speak fluent
ugaritic, but I'll just read it in
English. It's literally hieroglyphics,
but in English it says as follows. It's
talking to the So, it says,
it's literally what it say. I can't even
read it on the shirt, but it [laughter]
says,
and it's speaking to it in a very
respectful way, and it's telling you,
you know, what are you supposed to do
when you're going to come and celebrate
this? This is what you should do. quote,
"Cook a kid in milk, a lamb in butter."
Cook a kid in milk, a lamb in butter.
Zra of Kasher in 1921, this was like a
20-year excavation, but during that
Kufa, they uncovered tablets that said
what the Ram felt in his gut. The Ram
said, "I don't know this for a fact. I
never found this, but this is what used
to happen." And this was a pagan Indian.
And because it was a pagan Indian, this
is what went on. AND HE SAID, "THEY
FOUND IT. THE MAMISH have a find." And
this mamish it it's sort of it gave
credibility to what the herish and the
ram what the ram thought cook a kid in
milk a lamb in butter which gives
tremendous insight into
but I'll tell you something very fast a
postcript to the postcript and this is
also the kasha but it's one per earlier
this is emperic where kasha says that it
comes out from the ra comes out from the
ra with this archaeological uh kick But
it comes out from the and these two they
held
in
is related to a des he says if it's
related to a desert
anomalies that you find in the
of that you don't find even with regards
to number one is
not
is not we're learning it's not we just
don't get that not
right is not
yet
says why is it are not generally why
isn't it we had in today's d you make
zer when it comes to when it comes to
we'll see more about but you make zer
when it comes to what about THE IDEA OF
WAITING 6 HOURS BETWEEN what's in that
where' that even come from we're going
to see it tomorrow's
The is going to say
that one of them said I am like vinegar
the son of wine when I compare myself to
my father. He said my father was so who
said this my father was so that if he
ate meat on a Monday he didn't have a
coffee until Tuesday. He says I can't go
so far. I weighed misud which by the way
this is the mccart to the is it misud or
is it six hours the amount of time you
usually wait between sudas. But the
bottom line is I waited UNTIL THE NEXT
WHY would Maruk's father wait a full
day. He said what's in that? Like why is
he waiting a full day? Right? It's
fascinating some of these that you find
when it comes to that you don't find
anywhere else. He says a little bit more
than that. A little bit more than that.
It says
in the three times, right? We we made
it. Why would it say it's three times in
the three time? Why does it say three
times? Right? You don't find things that
it says uh you find so many times.
I'm going to tell you what I think is
going on over here. I think what's going
on over here is and what's going on over
here is
what's going on over there element and
being that it's
where you find
you find
can't even have it. YOU CAN'T COOK IT.
It can't be anywhere in sight. CAN'T
CREATE IT. THIS is something that's so
so severe because of the element to it.
If you understand that there's a he then
already makes perfect sense. Then he
takes it a step further. This this would
be a brilliant aside that we don't have
time for now. But he says that the two
times that the mentions it
the says it not only in the par of you
know what the right before it is.
It's the right.
It sounds like it had something to do
with the carbon pes something to do with
the carbon p we know was
he has a brilliant thesis how the whole
is the reason you find by
and the reason you have a and a all
these different things he says he
believes it's related to the fact that
represents
that's what the he says that's where YOU
FIND BYT THE ONLY OTHER PLACE IN the
world you find [laughter] and you find
represents the right remember when we
learned we were talking about what's the
and the brings the
said when it comes to because really the
has no but says he believes it's because
represents the but the point is
represents so next to this YOU HAVE THE
BUT IF YOU understand that
this is different than
THOSE AREAS THEY'RE IN THE PARISH of
this was not
this is
and if you understand that IT'S THAT
OPENS UP A WHOLE NEW that's why we talk
about it right away in that's why it's
mentioned right away again in you have a
why the term mentions
over and over and over again. That's
never going to be a kasha because that
way we know says
right the two things that are all the
mitzvah are always being throughout the
I found we'll end with this. I found
that there was a yid a tremendous
tremendous guy who we've all benefited
from perhaps unknowingly. His name was
Rab Yehuda Cooperman. So who is Rabhuda
Cooperman? Rabhuda Kooperman is the Mia.
He's the one that wrote the hagyas on
the bottom of the blue mash. the mash
that everybody uses that has brilliant
on the bottom that you couldn't learn
without was written by this his name was
he passed away like 10 years ago and he
was a a tremendous guy specifically in
the world of maker he opened up the for
the world he was the and
worldleading expert in all things mash
it's not even close and he also did a
lot of work on the and he was a very
in the beginning of every mash again I
think This is come out. I'm going out on
a limb here. Almost every shank in the
world. So if you open up in the
beginning of uh batious the first
volume, he has a mauvo. It's 14 proam
law. And the purpose of the mi is this
is so brilliant. It's to extrapolate
from the meshma
the way he approach learning. So we know
the mashma is uh right in the
conversation of the most brilliant
modern pirat of all time. Right? It's
not even close. But one of the things
for those that are familiar a little bit
with classic is there
and he had a very novel approach.
Surf Cooperman writes a mi it's 14
chapters each chapter is dedicated to
another that he took out from in terms
of the way he learned that he understood
peric bay is called
and the general theme is is that learned
and he believed this was a sheet of
that he said comes very much from the
mash you'll find it if you know how to
find it and that is is that you have to
understand the tama mitzvah because the
tama mitzvah shades and it colors the
mitzvah. So if you want to learn you
have to understand
it's true for every mitzvah and
of this he gives an example. He says I'm
going to tell you the perfect example.
It says it says in the
for
and he goes on and he says but I think
the is and he's trying to bring out a
point it's not but he's trying to say
what would have said and he says based
on what the raam said in the and based
on what the said and we have this
archaeological find but the bottom line
is based on what the raam said in the
what than what this foreigner said and
that is this is not
this is
he says that you understand the location
location of the in that you can
understand the to some of the things
again go through the two pieces and
they'll complement each other but the
bottom line is we're starting in the
mikra it's it's an anomaly of monomalies
and it could be the mahalak is it's
because
at its core is actually not
at its core. It's
that opens up the to understanding the
struggled to be. Additionally, it opens
up to understanding the
which is as we go through paracar we're
going to see is very much an anomaly.