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This Rabbi YY Jacobson slices Pastrami for a living
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Rabbi YY Jacobson in Iowa is a Shliach and owns a completely Kosher, glatt deli store that went viral on TikTok. He explains his journey, including how he ended up in Iowa in the first place, what led him to open a deli store, and how he has achieved such success as a Shliach in the Midwest. With Moshe Frank and Clappy #yyjacobson #iowa #deliciousfood #deli #podcast #jewishpodcast #jewish #chabad #crownheights
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Welcome back to the Clappy and Frank
Show here on YouTube and anywhere else
you're watching. Thank you so much for
tuning on. Today's episode is going to
be about the kinimi,
the grand kin of where kabad emissaries
gather in New York for a couple of day
convention from every single city in the
entire world. Somewhere between city
>> somewhere between five and a half and
7,000.
Being that we've never had a shriek on
the show, today we are extremely honored
to have a very popular, successful,
unique Shrik, Rabbi Y Jacobson, not from
Pomona. The original Y Jacobson.
>> You're first or you?
>> You're older. You're older. He's the
original Y Jacobson from De Moine, Iowa.
The famous De Mo, Iowa. The first voters
in American elections. So for every
couple of years, millions of people come
pounding on to Iowa to talk about who
the people in Iowa are going to vote
for. And their first Jewish interaction
is with Rabbi Jacobson. Also, he's
related to me. His sister is my
sister-in-law, Mimi. Shout out to Mimi
and Schmully. Greatest people. Very,
very good family.
>> Also helped him get him here.
>> Who you had to get involved to get him.
He's here for a family. Simka
>> after many failed attempts we [laughter]
>> and he has a very very unique story to
say. Mishi tell us a little bit about
your friend.
>> So I had the great honor of discovering
Rabbi Yasi Jacobs in De Moine because
make this drink bubila and because of
one of his constituents who has such a
great positive experience with kabad
people he agreed to venture with me on
this drink.
>> Yep.
So um but my the biggest shock that I
got what I should say got in my life
that sounds a little too crazy. I walked
into this deli
and I heard this the rabbi has a deli.
So I thought the rabbi is sitting in
some executive office somewhere in
another location. He has some
people maybe some immigrants from
different countries running the
restaurant. Okay, whatever. This deli
that everyone talks about this deli,
deli, deli because So I show up and lo
and behold, the great rabbi Y Jacobs is
sitting with the big apron and his wife
is back. I think he was probably talking
to someone at the counter
>> slicing pastrami
and this is and then I realized he's the
one of the most busiest I ever met in my
entire life and attracts the widest
audience of any I ever met.
>> Y, how'd you end up slicing pastrami as
a rabbi?
Barashem the Makabe Delhi has become a a
household name all over in Iowa
and um you know every has to find their
nation the community you got to find
your ways because it's so easy to fail
yourself I I try I I advertised them
shar I advertised minion no one came and
shleen and this one says I'm coming and
they don't come you know I know myself I
used to call people and at the end I
used to call another rabbi who lives by
us okay where we're holding it's like
okay well we have three maybe five for
sure three three from the 10 call me and
it's like it becomes a whole ball game
and then one time we talk advertise a
shir I said let me give it all I got
they gave a mysticism cabala 70 people
came and then the following week 50
people came they just said after a month
nobody came I said what's going on here
was it was it that bad I mean I felt I
had you guys said no you fill us up
we're not hungry but you know rabbi you
know we have to eat three times a day if
open up a deli, maybe people will come.
And that's when we started thinking, you
know, Rashkans then had the the the
house in northeast Iowa. They had all
they were making already producing cold
cuts and everything. I said, tell my
wife Connie, look, you got to look at
the everything the puts before you, you
know, and it's like a puzzle. And
sometimes we think we have to we have to
think what's going on in another
country. Look what the braas are in
front of us. We got to start seeing
things for what they are, not for what
they're not.
And uh we decided
well I I decided and said okay I'll come
along until we can't do it and it just
took off. It was it was a breakthrough.
>> So how many years after you moved to De
Mo at Kabad Rab did you open up the
>> So we opened up literally uh probably 12
years 12 years after
>> 12 years after
>> we we got we got a facility uh we
started you know we had no clue how to
do this. We just had one goal. We want
to bring people without calling them you
know and we realize that our is going to
be like au like we're learning in the
para you know a opened up a deli I mean
the tells us clearly he served tongue
rashi for example was with with mustard
and uh
>> so why do people try to reinvent the
wheel I don't think
>> you know what you know that's why we we
say the they trend away they already
they
know we don't have to start reinventing
the Well, go back to what where we come
from, you know. So, if your is like, you
know, to just give him and awaken
is to open up your house on,
you know, if it's if it's too but in my
case, I wanted to have all of it, you
know. I wanted a I wanted to do and I
figured through food. You have faban,
you have a minion, we have a we have a
theel, we have a beautiful uh wall uh of
the
>> gift shop
>> gift shop and people come in and I
always uh every morning you know it's
not uh this is interesting uh people are
always asking what's the difference
between you and the other why my cousin
I says the other why knows how to take a
two-minut share and turn it into two
hours. I have to take a two hour share
and turn it into two minutes [laughter]
because people just going to give you
two minutes with them. So and and and
that's the beauty you know uh
>> there were people call you by mistake.
[laughter]
>> That's another thing I have there we get
calls is this y why y jac and I said
yeah and all of a sudden these people
start crying and [laughter]
they they pour out their problems. I
said I think you got the wrong y said no
no no your y said yeah they don't care
if it's the right one as long as they
got a y. So uh so you know listen if I
listen to them and I give them courage
and I tell them look you know the first
thing is start saying to him say your
capital so value yourself because you
feel so devalued then
>> second they don't send you $5,000
>> no [laughter]
send another one
>> my advice is priceless [laughter]
it's not free it's priceless
>> um but um what's interesting is
because the would tell people this say
value yourself theap the year you're
going into and and bring
to uh help you fight your fight and
stand your ground and and take on the
world and and you'll conquer and you
know stand
what I don't know you know what I'm
going to come to know you already knew
and there's no room for suffic and you
just trend and you go up you never give
up you go up and that's what and then
the would tell people also the issues
you have with other people say their
capital and awaken on them through their
capital. These unknown answers the Reb
gave different people who are struggling
as family members and eventually
you know the the light of David to heal
him is the most powerful thing to heal
him to heal him to heal to bring healing
to the belt.
>> So what was your first location when you
did the Delhi?
>> The location was exactly where we
>> right now. You bought the building, you
rented the building. What was your
first?
>> There were a few people, you know, we
had no credibility properties. What do
we know? There was a few balabat who
felt that you know helped us get it. Uh
people put their names on it so we had
the credibility and uh we already bought
it with renters who are renting
businesses up there. So it worked out
and the original owners actually became
our renters. So it was like [laughter]
I'll never forget it was like the bank
at that time was doing so well the the
bigger banks are swallowing the smaller
banks every day one bank got swallowed
up by a bigger bank so every bank needed
a hecka you know to be known to the
community so they were helping community
projects
in our case it worked out well because
uh this bank literally put down all the
money literally all the money I'll never
forget two days before the signings
>> but no down payment money nothing
>> they called me up Rabbi Jacobson will
you be putting down at least 5%. And for
a joke, I said, "A bank that needs my
5%. I don't know if I want to do
business with you. [laughter] I mean,
you need my 5%."
I mean, you're kidding me. You're giving
me the the 95%. That 5% is going to kill
you. Really? Okay. Okay. [laughter]
They were doing well. They were doing
well.
>> A miracle. A miracle of
>> listen bought a property with no money.
How come I can't do that? I want to buy
a house. I'm ready. it I'm telling you
uh I heard these stories which look
growing up as a kid and uh you know you
say mas you know and it it does happen
at the right time the right place that's
exactly what happened there's no
exaggeration I make up stories that did
happen by the way [laughter]
>> I want to I want to go I want to go back
I want to go back a few steps we we
started talking about your deli and how
successful it is and how you reach
people and this unique and you only
realized this unique way of reaching
>> he's the only rabbi that actually works
during the week.
>> Well, we talk about somebody that after
12 years of being on found out that
there's a unique that you have to do
with that sent you and your rebbitson.
>> Now, I want to go back just that people
around the world are watching and there
thousands of are coming. I really want
to zoom in. You grew up in Crown
Heights,
>> Crown Heights, Brooklyn. Yeah.
>> On Lefforts Avenue,
>> Conceiv famous famous mother Fagy
Jacobson who was like Vavino's wife of
Crown Heights. He brings in a lot of
needy people and people that need a
place to sleep and for a warm meal and
>> you know what it is every night you
didn't know who who who you're going to
sleep next to.
>> Can you imagine that? You know how much
fun that was? You know ma who's my new
brother. [laughter]
>> So that's a whole topic and
conversation.
>> That's a whole conversation. That's a
whole that's a broadcast.
>> What year were you born?
>> I was born 1968.
>> So you grew up in Crown Heights. You
went probably went to
>> and you heard about and you heard the
talking week after week year after year
about and the and bringing people down
that back to doing and everything but
your family wasn't on my family wasn't
on but the Jacobson family were known
that they had other you know my cousins
my uncle was the editor and chief of the
algabanal he was a beltch
and you know every one of the Jacobson
brothers my father and his brothers had
uh personal uh personal moments with the
Reba. The Reba basically raised these
you know they they were from young and
in the 60s and 50s and 60s and early the
was a father figure for so many so many
uh
>> Gar
had the algame.
Yeah.
>> And your other uncle was
recently passed away.
>> Yeah. And then your father would oversh
my father was guided by the deba to get
into diamonds to polish diamonds and and
then I I could never understand that
everything would always tell my father
you'll always find diamonds and
everything when he bought the house on
lefforts you'll find diamonds there. So
it came so I used this as whenever I
meet somebody and they you know
especially in a time when people are
struggling should they have children or
not. I said
god wants to send you down diamonds to
polish on earth. How could you hold that
back? These are diamonds. When you value
children today, there's such a
devaluation. People devalue everything.
When you bring out the value of
everything, people like see it. They say
opening like, "Oh, yeah. How could you
say no to diamonds?" People will go into
to into the mud to take the diamonds
out. They'll go into the oceans.
>> The oceans, they'll go into if you find
diamonds.
>> Somebody once says to me, "Rabbi, why
did I have to go through life having all
these problems and suffering?" And I
said, "But look what happened at the
end. and you married a beautiful woman.
You have three beautiful kids. You were
masking it before you came down. You saw
these diamonds. You're going to go
through this. You just didn't realize
the bumps that's going to actually
happen on the bottom. But would you have
not done it knowing the diamonds are
there? Look at the diamonds. The
takeaway is you got the diamonds out of
the hole. All from all the and all the
crap you went through. Look at the
diamonds you took away. And that's what
you got to look at.
>> So you grew up in Crown Heights?
>> Yes, I did. [clears throat]
>> Beautiful family.
>> Yes. Good kabad background. You hear
that talking about going on? It
>> was my dream.
>> Your dream.
>> Yeah.
>> Now your wife grew up in England.
>> England.
>> We both married English girls.
>> And my wife's Zeta is Rabel Mgarten, one
of the first children to Argentina. So
she grew up, you know, knowing her Zeta
was one of the
>> So when you dated,
>> you dated what? In the in the in the
late 80s.
>> Uh not that old. 1991.
>> 1991. You you dated and got married.
>> That's right. Yeah.
>> So you were Baka from Crown Heights. She
was from England. She you met in Crown
Heights. She was here for seminary. I'm
just
>> And for her going on was a dream as
well.
>> So when you dated, you said you're going
on.
>> One of the things of course you know as
we're talking you know what you want in
life.
>> Let's go to the cornfield. [laughter]
>> Okay.
>> By the way, that's By the way, I want to
tell you something. This is personally a
personal thing. I told Misha when I told
you that uh when my mother-in-law heard
that we're going to Iowa and my
mother-in-law is a caterer and for her
she always mak help people with food.
She says you're going to what's in Iowa?
There's no food there. You're going to
start you're going to starve. [laughter]
I never I says I can't say I'm going to
give your daughter all the gold and
silver but I promise you one thing she
will not starve. [laughter] So the
makabe deli was a way it was a tan duba
>> 12 years later. 12 years. Yeah. Yeah. 12
years. 12 years later after she was
after starved her, you know. [laughter]
>> You ever go visit in England?
>> Yeah.
>> You still go?
>> My wife just went a few months ago.
>> So when you went to Iowa, was that were
you the first person? There was some
kabad people came before you.
>> So there were other What year was it?
>> What year did I go?
>> We skipped. What year did you go on to
Iowa?
>> I went on literally that year a year
after we got married. Yeah.
>> We started talking before the stroke
last year.
September 92
right after
>> right before right before
>> after
>> between the
right before the before the second one
after the first one that time there was
a lot going on there was a group of us
who of younger who said let's get find
there was a big
people went to came to went to M klowski
office then was there was so the whole
midwest basically filled up that time
like you know Arkansas and other So
other
>> Utah
>> there were one or two tried before you
that left
>> there wereim before us who did a
wonderful job and you know you know I
was not as I say it wasn't a place where
you're going to lick it was it it was a
challenge
and every who was there built up and and
they had to move on and they built up
they built up enough that we could build
on their success. You're very
>> I would never say very [laughter] human.
No, because it's the MS. It really is
the MS because you got to see it. You
got to see how full even before before
this world was created says
if you're going to establish sometimes
you build and then there's a setback. It
builds set back until until it takes
off. Can you tell us a story about a
very wealthy individual in your town
sponsored a full community of ky of
litfisher people who per se we would
they came to directly compete with your
business. Can you tell us that story and
how it turn out?
Look, you know,
my uncle once told me, my uncle Gersian
once told me that when he was on with
the Reb, when it came to
and the Reb asked him, "So, what's the
what's the how is the world reacting to
it and the and my father, my my uncle
was was hesitant to tell the Reb?" And
but the Reb wants to know he wants to
know the feedback and he says to the
Reb, it's an there's an explosion of of
it's a fire against what the Reb is you
know the
and the Reb smiled and says now I know
I'm going to succeed. [laughter]
>> So that story is a story that everyone
needs to hear. You know when there is uh
when there's resistance you know you're
on the right track.
>> So how do you compete with 11
competitors all at once?
>> Like you live in a little town. No one
ever competed with you.
>> One day you got 11 people showing up.
>> So a Kylo opened up and I'll tell you
something. Um you know right away um the
person it's a personality thing. I saw
it.
>> Can I get Can I get dates? When did this
coy open up?
>> Oh dates. I'm not good on dates.
>> You came in 1992.
>> So the ky opened up um
>> after 911.
>> No, probably after 911 some. It was I
think that like a year before we opened
up the deli.
>> Okay.
>> Somewhere there like a 2000 2001 maybe.
I'm not sure.
>> Oh, so the ky inspired the deli perhaps
>> they were customers. They came you know
there's no other food. You [laughter]
know what?
>> But but but I'll tell you something. You
know when you know uh there's a lot we
have to say something
>> even [laughter] even in the even in the
lit there is a lot of youite that are
thirsty to give to to to be
and and many of them wanted that you
know you know
>> we don't have monopoly on on doing's
work. So every one of the kalit had a
shakist to the rebba or their families
had to kabat some of them were describ
tokite through kabat. So they they were
not it wasn't that people coming to
someone's offering you a full s to learn
a whole year who's not going to take it.
It's a beautiful thing. So I saw the way
the way you got to see it. I see I
didn't look at it is not coming. In fact
the first supper was in my house. We
invited them all to have supper. We, you
know, we welcome them because no, you
know, uh, they they all bought houses
around us.
>> They ask you to show us to move to town.
>> What?
>> Did they ask you to show us to come to
town?
>> They ask me to
>> Did they tell you, you know, we're
opening up a COVID? You're already a
kabad rabbi here. Do you do you want us
Do you do you do you have any advice for
us, guidance? Are you going to be warm
and accepting? Do you are you
>> They have a different model. [laughter]
>> It's a different model. It's model just
show up and that's it.
>> Listen, when when I came when I came to
De Mo, did I ask permission from from
the people there? We don't ask
permission. We just go. So why should
they ask?
>> But you know,
>> everybody had a mikvah.
>> We No, we didn't have a mikvah.
>> So there was there was a mikvah that
that we were allowed to oversee and
bring to make sure that what they had
>> what you were able to preserve what was
there and it's kasha we we we we kept it
going. So my wife was involved with the
mikvah.
>> So they showed up.
>> So they showed up and I'll tell you um
there are those till today. We have a
shyus with we have a connection with
some of them became more clear in what
kabad's model is and what what are you
know
>> are they still there
>> no no shut down
>> the k shut down because the hope was
>> host them as they were leaving you made
a goodbye party
>> actually the first and the last supper
was in my house [laughter]
>> the last supper
>> the last supper was also because a lot
of them were packing you know some of
them um some of them you know
>> you said that you opened the deli a year
after they came was there any direct
correlation Well, we always had a a a
food co-op. No, I want to say something.
We always were selling meat.
>> Oh, you did?
>> We had a kosher co-op. Yeah, because
that was the first thing
>> you want to do. Mashas, you know, people
were traveling. So, we so we worked out
with Marai. So, we start having a co-op
and it actually worked well because uh
>> you know, the word got out that there's
a rabbi selling chickens from a from a
freezer in his house, you know,
>> and people made would would pre-order.
[clears throat] So, we started a club.
You know, uh you want to do things that,
you know, get people Also before 12 12
years I mean two years how many years
into five years in you
>> so right away no right came we started a
co-op yeah
>> so Delhi is almost an outgrowth of
>> the Delhi was an outgrowth yeah you know
so you got to go what's what you know
what's in your hands
>> but I want to go backwards you you got
married
>> and 1991
>> and the bringing giving every week
because it was after 88 every week
>> no no it was after it was it was you
engaged. When you got engaged engaged
was yeah
>> 1991 the deba probably gave you a full
letter for your wedding with kochi
>> actually the night of our wedding we had
we had an encounter twice with the
there's a video on on me and my wife it
was a very special night
>> what what was it which day was it
>> it was tasban
and [snorts] uh the night the much
before the gun and uh it was just the
actually uh first time ever the reb gave
a sika that night tesv to talk about
that uh that arrest
>> the got arrest
never even talk about it on tzv it was
never a
>> wow
>> so every time I tell my wife when things
get a little uh I said even the said the
arrest started [laughter]
>> your engagement your wedding anniversary
said they started they started but the
gul was
so said no
so the said the gul is is tonight Rebula
said the gula and that's why he gave $3
you know how do you bring gula to the
world so he gave $3 that night
>> to everybody
>> to everybody and when I went by I got
six and my wife got six
>> wild stuff you went by after the
>> so we got called after the during
pictures we called the is giving out so
we ran back
>> in the in the gown in the
>> gown they got some they got
>> it's amazing
>> and uh first of all uh it was the the
you know for me it was like you know
first time coming down with the grill
and the like it was like I was like the
whole show's looking
>> everyone's looking like you know
it it it felt so you know it felt
so so right but so interesting
>> yeah like has ever done
>> can't be wrong you know
>> how was it did it ever happen before the
kala came and like dollar
>> yeah it wasn't I'm not going to say the
first time but you know um
>> first time that I spoke about t of seven
to eight hours give age six. It sounds
like a once a one time thing. It was one
time
>> because the knew
>> and then you know the again you have to
understand that bum garden
>> was very close with the reba even before
the nius he was the help did be the
director of ms shabas
wife grand badges mashab even wore a
badge is a known picture wearing
>> so
>> it's not the first time it's
>> not the first time are wearing stuff on
their own [laughter]
>> there's something to it
>> you know people don't realize when the
freed came out with the K out to the
gula.
>> Did he ever got arrested? No, he
>> did put on the trains on the trains.
Yeah.
>> Is it true he got a ticket or arrested
or something?
>> The first one to put graffiti on the
trains.
No, but uh but the Vis the Reb gave
Rabel Bombgarten and to the Ben open
door. So it was special from both sides,
you know. Uh
>> do you want to continue on the history
or can I get to that? So you get
married, you guys settle in Crown
Heights, you got a lot of kid from the
deba the day of your wedding and then
you um you settled in Crown Heights. You
got you was in Crown Heights when you
got married. You joined the Arabeller.
>> You joined. Yeah.
>> And you knew you're going on. So it's
just a matter of time.
>> You know I as Abaka was already working
in the casc mountains working a lot in
in
everything.
>> We're doing what?
>> We did it. We we we helped out the
thereofal but uh our our class
>> who was but our class got involved with
the with the with all the shops to put
manasers you know it was a class project
it's like you know it was our our place
you know we went to all the drug
rehabilitation centers and we didn't it
was we even brought some of them who who
were who got out to the to the reb
that's another story
>> but uh so I thought my my future might
be there but sometimes you you know your
kesh in one place and is it other
places.
>> You knew it was in the boondocks. You
didn't sure it wasn't the cat school
boondocks or the Iowa.
>> So there was a possibility that you
would go into the cat schools
>> but uh
um when Rabbi Mosha Casawitz was looking
for but when Rab Mosha Casawitz was
looking for to come to fill the mo Iowa
so when he met me um
>> Casawitz from Minnesota yeah
>> he's in charge of Iowa. Is that anybody?
in charge then he was a then
>> and uh we came out and um
it was like we knew it's going to be
very challenging.
>> You you went to visit before you
actually moved there.
>> We went to visit
>> you and your wife.
>> We went to visit and uh because again a
lot that time a lot of young went out
because uh we knew the rebba knowing
that the is is going stronger and we are
the reb's hands and feet and we're
movable. We're going to take it. That
was our that was our way of bringing
jafua. Others believe saying to him all
day. I mean others cried all day. Then
there were those who said we got to go
on the
>> Can we skip to the deli?
>> Well, we could go back in a minute. What
I'm saying? He stuck with the he stuck
with the burgers. He wants the burgers.
>> I'm just still because we the whole
world's watching and wanting to know
about here we have a living example
that's doing this 35 years later. I'm
just trying to understand how he ended
up in Iowa. Iowa again, it's only
popular every four years in presidential
elections. The whole world swamps on to
Iowa.
>> Yeah, tell us about the
>> who who ever thought that I'm going to
be the decider who become president.
>> First of all, we're skipping skipping
around a little bit. Yeah, we're talking
about Bernie Sanders, Lit Monero with
you. How did that happen? The most
famous guy in the world running for
president. Not even though he's Jewish,
not the biggest friend of Jewish causes
in my opinion at least.
>> Can we talk about critical critical?
>> I want to answer this question
[laughter] because a lot of people
always ask me this. So, you know, Bernie
Sanders, um, so we had, uh, we were
working with, uh, with the Congress of
America, the Democratic Congress of
America,
>> and they helped us every, um, to sponsor
Friday night meals for all the students
who are grassroots,
you know, um, canvasing.
>> Yeah. Canvasing for for different uh,
those who are running for the primary,
>> candidates. Yeah.
>> So, candidates. So, many of these
students happen to be from the Bernie
Sanders campaign. [laughter] We couldn't
believe it. And so many of them would go
to the local Kabad house. So they were
part of Kaba. So one Friday night we
were talking and I asked one of them, he
says, "I can't understand you. So many
Jews look at Bernie Sanders as a
self-hating Jew who's an anti-semite."
And all the anti-semites, you know, he
opened the door for them to be the real
anti-Semite. With Bernie, you could say
it's politics, you know, whatever. He's
still a Y. But he's opening. Why would
you guys for that alone why would you
guys you know even though he has some
ideas why associate with him?
>> So he says how do you know he's says I
said you know what I don't know him
personally but from the messages you
from the way he talks about Israel.
>> So then it came in you know that came in
I I said you know what we're doing
Khaneka on ice would Bernie come light
the mana and they said we're going to
get Bernie's flight to we'll show he's
not and Bernie agreed to light the
manura. [laughter] Okay. I guess he was
desperate to win. He went to the
department.
>> Anecdotally, didn't he help the man in
Burlington or something?
>> There's a letter from the Deba gazillion
years ago. I think it's Prince. Somebody
showed me the letter a few years ago
where he was the mayor then of his
little city, whatever in Burlington,
Vermont by Rebe.
>> Yeah. And Debb says thanks him so much
for his involvement in making sure
there's a public. But the love loves
every single Jew to such an extent that
like he always found the common thing
with them that he could praise somebody
and bring out their nama. For me, it's
very difficult to watch the guy mamish
being a self-hating Jew making non-stop.
I I really like I'm not I can't stomach
the guy. But I remember a few years ago
laying at bed at night scrolling through
YouTube and I caught a video of Rab
Jacobson and today AI everything could
be fake. I'M LIKE THIS CAN'T BE REAL.
BERNIE STANDER standing next to one of
my mutanim lighting of Monero. the guy.
It was a very proud Jewish moment in his
life that you were able to accomplish.
I'm sure hundreds of thousands of people
saw that clip
>> and I I I want to tell you something you
know um when you're asked would you let
Bernie light the mana and you know the
so well how the rebba spoke about that
what till when the till when are you
allowed to light the kanaka and the
garra says
so simple is until the last market that
was known to be open
and what does the rebba say The saying
the timeless message is till you get
that very Jew who mighted in the who's
in mitzvah till you get that darkness to
enlight that's the the night the kan
have the power to transform even such a
yid so when you're faced would you let
burning light because a lot of people
call me don't let him light them keep
him an anti-semite don't don't be the
one I said you know what if the aisha
sending you a mission. Are you going to
be the one who's going to bring this
year to the light or keep him in the
darkness? What are you going to do? No
politics here.
>> So he came and he in fact he put on a
yarmaka. One of the students from Iowa
State gave his yamaka to put on. I said,
"Listen, one day this yamaka is going to
be worth a lot of money [laughter]
because I don't think Bernie Sanders
ever put on yamaka since then on." But
so the student put it on and the other
students in fact there was a there was a
student from from from
um I'm not going to say where a student
who came from a f home who left yishkite
and did wanted nothing to do even with
my son in Iowa state he came from a very
firm home and when he heard Bernie
Sander was lying to he called me at the
delhi I have to be there
>> wow
>> he had to be and he came from a very
firm home um not a lab house but are
very from home and um this was his
beginning of coming back. When he saw
Brunie connecting to Yiddishkite, he
realized you could be where you are and
be a happy and doing
>> was using Bernie Sanders to do and work
cuz this kid was coming closer to
Yiddish because he saw Bernie Sanders
coming.
>> What's the bigger surprise that he
welcomed the people at the first night
dinner or that he did Bernie Sander? I
don't know which one.
>> I think they're both shocker. They're
both very wild. [laughter] They're both
they're both
>> I think he's just a wild guy that that
has such a for anybody anything that's
you know it's in the Jacob it's in the
Jacobs and bones to have such I can tell
you you know what I'll tell you
something I a lot comes from my mother's
house
the first letter of the Tyra is Bas home
God says the first letter this is my
home I'm welcome you in my home doesn't
start off with mitzvah he starts off
here's the pantry here's the fruits and
the vegetables and the and the else.
This is my home. Just do me one favor.
Don't play house in my home. Just live
it the way I need it to be. Don't don't
throw me out. Just know that I'm the
host.
>> So, how did politics currently play a
role at the Makabe Delhi?
>> Because uh
>> tell us what happened in a typical
election.
>> It was the only place. know now in
general
>> every four years what's going to happen
when in a few months from now they're
going to start looking who's going to be
the contendants for Republican
presidential stuff and the playing field
and if it's going to be Vance or other
guys are going to run and then the
independents and the Democrats and
they're all going to have to rally up
Iowa a year in advance because whoever
wins Iowa really gets their name famous.
So thousands of news media outlets are
all going to be coming on to Iowa within
the next year and when they look for
Jewish stories they find you. So how do
you stay parvia
how do you stay par to make a
kiddeshavich and be politically correct
and deal with all these people on all
three sides democrats republicans
independents what's your mahav when you
meet people in politics
>> I'm just myself
>> you act yourself
>> I don't even make the doors I have one
son on my on the deli open that's it
you come
>> is it usually a stop for the politicians
>> a lot of them yeah they come they come
give us some uh Hall of Fame list.
[sighs]
>> First of all, the one who's there every
day is the Reb.
>> The Reb. There's a one of uh one of the
the regulars non-Jew made such a pro
picture of the reb on on a on a what do
you call on on a sheet a picture of the
fabing with the kids around him and uh
so people come and this is a place
this is where people talk and what
people come and people feel civilized
again and they feel human and they feel
you know with everyone trying to belong
to this group and that group the Reb
taught us how to welcome everyone as an
as an individual Aben Abas Aben Abbas of
theta and we forgot about that America
became so colonized with I belong to
this group and that group everyone
forgot about their individual
independence with the with heaven and
earth you know and that's why give
everyone a dollar the was of everyone
you are here to be val you are of value
to value others
>> can you tell us about your Tik Tok story
>> so that's why I don't make these how am
I going to welcome them this um they
Come I give them all a hug. Welcome to
the Rebes Delhi Makab Kosher Delhi where
everyone becomes civilized and people
talk. So when the Santos came and they
you know you give them a sandwich and
this one came and that one came new.
>> So funny the Santos was very famous.
These names every few years a new famous
guy. Des Santos was huge
>> you know um [clears throat] Trump's
daughter-in-law came. Trump was supposed
to come but it just didn't happen.
>> He was at the oil. He was at the oil.
>> He was at the well. No, but you know it
was it was planned you know it was
planned but
>> he can still come he still has four
three years to come you know
>> we come and um different you know we get
you know sometimes they're running late
or you know just just things happen.
>> Can you tell us about the Tik Tok story
>> but I say it's every individual that
comes is
another one that says you could say
something to this person that changes
their life. How you gonna say what are
you gonna say from the TA today that
he's gonna be when they're starving from
Hashem? Okay, go on. You say what was
your question?
>> The Tik Tok lady.
>> So, uh, this woman comes in. This woman
comes in and she's a known ba. She's a
known woman. Her name was Sarah Bose.
And
>> Sarah
>> Sarah Bose
>> Bose.
>> Yeah. Her father's Jewish. And she
happened to throw out on on her Tik Tok,
I'm looking for whitefish. I can't find
whitefish. So my son Mati told her
there's a kosher deli. My father as she
came in
>> and kosher white and white fish is
usually on the menu.
>> White fish is usually on the menu and
she was just it was because you know
we're like a New York style. We bring in
everything from New York.
>> I'm thinking of the deli. You also have
the fish.
>> We have the fish too. You usually used
to be fishermanmen's deli and then it
used to be flashman's uh dairy place.
You know it usually worked opposite. So
um by the way the name Makabe was also a
dream request. I wrote a letter to the
oil and I put the letter under my
pillow. What do I call it? You know, and
I woke up with Makabe Delhi.
>> You woke up just thinking Makab Deli.
There was nothing to it.
>> Nothing to it. I said,
>> whatever it was, it was Makab Delhi.
>> And then, you know, for the it couldn't
be any more Goyish, Big Mac and
Applebee, Big Mac and Arby. So for them,
Makabe was like, "Oh, where'd I hear
that before?" [laughter] And for the
Yidden,
>> Makabe, I mean, who doesn't know Makabe,
you know?
>> Any guy that moves to De Mo is a Makabe.
Exactly.
>> And he
are the makabes of our time. We are all
the makabes, you know,
>> so the white fish.
>> So the white fish um got everyone to
kamita.
>> So what happened?
>> It was through. So she came she did a
she did a little spill. We didn't even
know she did it, you know. She came in
the next morning. There's 60 people
outside.
>> 60 people.
>> They thought there was a laba and they
they got excited cuz I said, "Everything
okay? Was there I says no. Uh we're here
together." I says, "What happened? was
everything is you know there there's a
Tik Tok on you. said, "What's Tik Tok?
What is this?" [laughter]
Tik Tok before I knew it. And I called
my wife. I said, "Honey, I need your
help here. Something happened to some
someone made an announcement and this
Tik Tok, I need you to come help me take
orders." And she says, "I don't take
orders. I give orders." [laughter] Whoa.
>> I said, "Okay, so come give me orders,
you know, take the orders and give me
orders." And it was just
>> 60 people.
>> And from them, other bloggers from they
were going out. It went to it was like
millions. Then I got calls from my
friends. Yi, the your deli that you just
opened up last night had an overnight
success. I says with 20 years of
overnight success [laughter]
doesn't happen doesn't happen overnight.
We're 20 years overnight, you know.
>> So how what happened? How long did this
go on for this crazy wine?
>> It still goes on
>> till today. Did you have to hire more
staff?
>> What?
>> You hired more staff.
>> So we so we have someone there that
helps out. We know we know the busy
side. It's quiet down, but there's more
and more. We're looking to hire someone
full-time right now.
>> You hired extra.
>> You hired one extra.
>> I hired some people. We have people that
come help and uh you know who manage but
uh it's it's I I can tell you something.
I don't know if there's any who has over
50 60 people just coming in to them
every day. [laughter] You don't know
who's coming in the most you know from
all walks of life by the way all walks
of life every life choice. I you know I
have people coming and it's just those
who stand before before theas after the
with
it's it's crazy it's like what's my day
going to look like today you know some
just know what you know it's it's all
>> y
>> what do you tell
especially these small towns are bored
all week long I'm going to throw that
I'm going to be a little
>> how do you know how do you know they're
bored
>> and they don't think they think it's too
they think [snorts] they're too hush to
sit behind the counter. I come from
retail. I had an art gallery for many
years. I sat behind the counter.
>> I'm retail retail. So for us it's retail
is a very respectful position.
>> How do you tell most people I know and
which makes you very unique and special.
How do you get to them comfortable to
put on an apron and slice pastrami and
to be happy and proud and to talk to so
many like I said I always tell people
the most busiest of my life is in de mo
Iowa. He sits and meets with tens of
hundreds of people a day and talks to
them.
It seems like it comes natural to you.
Don't think it's beneath you to sit
behind the counter. How would you tell?
I would say I'm going to say it again. I
think most of them are bored during the
week. What do they do?
>> What do you mean? Every single every
single is different. Some have five
preschools.
>> They all think they're too cool for
school. What's your message to them? You
know what I it goes back to the famous
story when to the I believe I feel
hygias
was it? Yeah. And he said he said to him
you should stink like a like an onion.
But so I always go back to that story I
never comfortable because this is not
me. It's not it shouldn't be me. This is
what you do to bring to to bring people
whatever it takes. You know, if there
was a child who falls into a sewer, do
you think is it beneath me? You're going
to jump in
>> and grab the kids
>> and grab the kids. The Reb, the first
secret of the Reb, the Reb is crying
that you have a lot of these kids who
don't even know is running around
who's looking after these kids, looking
after these diamonds that that are that
that are that are soaked into the into
crap and to get them out and polish
them. So yeah, you put on the vushim
that protect you. You know, so so you
don't, you know, so so you could uh but
uh so you put on the apron and you do
what you got to do. And if this is
what's bringing people who uh so I was
struggling what you're saying for for a
good few years like this is this is a
stand behind the counter doing this but
then you go back where was Masha he was
serving them where was Abra he was you
know serving them it's not about me
anymore you know at some point you you
don't just you don't care what you think
on yourself you just do what you got to
do you know right
>> one second we we we're going to discuss
how thousands of potentially could rec
change around those maybe and tap into
what their location is calling for but
we still didn't scratch the surface with
you had the first stroke you were in
Kwell you wanted to go out on
>> you like the history
>> you go to you you you go to Casawitz is
in Minnesota he shows you that otherwise
>> well he actually came he was here
>> he was here in Crown Heights recruiting
>> he was recruiting
>> how did he find you
>> Mermstein
>> so [laughter]
so the story goes like this from what I
know from what Misha told me he he he
went over to someone he says I need a
crazy guy who who's who who who thinks
out of the box to come to De Mo Iowa who
could stand la from all the and and and
not get you know uh to not get affected
by by who are strange from
so someone tells him meet with uh meet
with laser le
>> laser we
>> laser levy Daniel's son
>> Danielle's brother
>> brother brother I'm sorry
>> barrel son. He passed away young.
>> So when Laser Levy heard about De Moine
and what they're looking for, he
[snorts] says to Misha,
>> I know you think I'm crazy, but Yasi Jac
is crazier than
>> How did he know? How did [laughter] he
know you?
>> What?
>> He was your age.
>> He was my age, maybe a little older.
>> So he told me, I think there's a guy
your wife who's crazy than me. Go to
Yazi Jacerson. And that's basically what
happened.
>> So he came over to you and was in
>> he helped you get on. So, so this I I
mean I never knew Mish. I mean I I knew
of him. I knew I knew he was a in Iowa
and actually I I he um he would send out
his newspaper to everyone in Crown
Heights.
>> He was a Minnesota.
>> He was a then in Iowa. He's in De Mo
Iowa.
>> Who was Kath Iowa? I thought you said he
was in Minnesota.
>> Now he's in Minnesota.
>> Ah he was a in De Mo Iowa and it didn't
work out for whatever reason.
>> He has took on to Minnesota.
>> Okay. So he was looking to replace
somebody. Yeah. Maybe maybe Khadakov
maybe Kakov told him find a replacement.
>> Well, okay. So then the the Midwest was
under the Misha feller. Still is
>> Minnesota. Okay.
>> Minnesota. But but uh so so so that's
how it works. So he
>> So he met you.
>> He met me and he realized
>> how do you recruit somebody to come to a
place that he's leaving?
>> It's a hard sell. If it's so good, you
wouldn't leave. You know what I'm
saying? [laughter]
>> I want you to take over my business. I
make $100 million a year. Where you
going? That's why I I appre I appreciate
the house I came from that you have to
all of a sudden become a brother to a
stranger. You don't you don't see them
you see the G become a G right away
right G is a stranger guard is someone
who lives with you every night I had
another roommate so we had to bond right
away. Okay. So, how did you pitch?
>> There's no time to preliminaries. Know
who are you? What are you?
>> So, how did you pitch this to your wife
young couple? We're moving to a place
that is leaving and we're going to move
in.
>> Give me the sales.
>> You know what? She she was there. There
was no she we were we were willing. It
was it was just that's it.
>> You get on a plane, able, and ready.
That's all.
>> So, you get on a You're 20ome was just
wanted to go. That's all.
>> You're 20ome years old. You're just
married. You had a kid already.
But when you moved there?
>> We actually did. When we moved, we had
we had label. Yeah. He was a few months
old. Yeah.
>> Label's the one that married my
brother-in-law sister, Simon.
>> The No, Label married.
>> He's a there as well.
>> In Iowa State. Yeah.
>> Ah, okay. So, a younger brother married
my my brother-in-law's sister, Simon.
Very nice. Very nice boy. Almond.
>> Z. He's in Maryland.
>> He's in Maryland.
>> Okay. So, you you go there with a baby.
You go to check it out first. You And
>> we went to visit together.
>> What' you see?
>> What? We saw nothing. [laughter]
We saw we saw we we saw that this is
going to be interesting you know how do
we awaken the appetites for people who
don't even know it's like that time I
developed I'm thinking now I understand
I told my wife now I understand why when
he saw it says he saw
and
he saw till the when he saw the last
generation before the gula it says he
smiled I never knew why he smiled
smiles. Now I realize why he smiled
because he said
chased after the sheep that knew there
was a flock that left. He brought it
back. We're going to deal with yidden
that never knew they ever belonged to a
flock. You hear that?
>> And we're going to have to really really
get things going to So that's why the
Delhi was the magic
>> and I just want to say
>> but the Delhi was 12 years later.
>> Okay. It was not a co-op. It started a
co-op. No. The day. Okay. So one second.
Did today you go on you stand around 770
for four months with a credit card
swiper and you raise 50 to 100k and you
ask all your family and friends to
support you the first year you need to
get a bookkeeper and a secretary and an
office and seed money and my za my bubba
okay you're talking about 40 35 years
ago
>> you took the money
>> you took the you took your own money
>> money well says everyone gave a bra on
it so this is what what else did it mean
right this you're going to build uh
>> and right before yontiff he bought his
third property from a place that a guy
left cuz it wasn't for him. He Right.
Tell us more.
>> The story was like this. It's a crazy
story. For for years, I'm walking around
to every neighbor. We need a guest
house. We want to build a synagogue.
Could you move? They said, why should we
move? You're the best neighbor we ever
had. Everyone said the same thing. So, I
went on the internet to find out how how
I become a bad neighbor. Nobody offers
[laughter] classes on that. I have to
come natural, right?
Don't off. So, so we're waiting and
waiting and you know I for years we're
passing by this one property that sits
on the half half acre and uh the guy so
nothing's happening.
Crazy thing happened on my son's
birthday. I get a crazy call this year.
This year Thomas July 27th, two days
before my birthday right now.
>> I call up Yeah. I'm between either
either I'm between uh a guy calls me up
in the deli.
>> The deli is is a building. own building
where you live house and a shop for
another building
>> next door.
>> Yeah.
>> No, different area.
>> It's called a parsonage. I got a house.
>> Hold on one second.
>> The deli is in one area, right? The deli
is in one side of town.
>> It's No, it's it's
>> How far is the middle of the town?
>> How far is the deli from your house?
>> Five minutes.
>> Five minute drive.
>> Yeah. Not even three. Yeah.
>> A three-minute drive. Like a mile away.
>> Basically. Yeah.
>> Okay. So, there's the deli and then your
house is 3 minutes away.
>> And Mikra.
>> So, the So, we moved in front of the
traditional Orthodox. The Delhi. We set
up in front of the reformed conservative
because we wanted to ambush. I'll never
forget when the reformed conservative
rabbis met to see how to get us out of
town. No, no, no, no. Sorry. It was the
Orthodox that were threatened more by me
and I said I said uh to my wife, I
understand why why is the Orthodox are
threatened by us. Why is the reformed
conservatives not threatened by us? I
mean, we want to take over everybody
with the So, the Delhi is in front of
the reformed conservative synagogue,
literally in front of them. the schulas
are everything worked out everything. So
this is a crazy story how that opens up
a window. So for years I'm writing into
the we should find a property we could
build a sh from from on the ground up
because till now it's in our basement.
It's a nice basement
>> but it's time you know even the said no
said to me keep keep it in the basement
because
>> they like it in the basement.
And someone else told me well rabbi
didn't you always say all revolutions
start from a basement? I said yeah but
it's time to get out [laughter] you
know. So uh when the hostages came
literally you know um you know uh when
there was talk from them coming out of
the but anyway before
I'm leaving the Delhi and a call comes
in and I I have to take the call cuz it
could be someone who got lost or someone
wants to come someone needs food. The
call goes like this and I'm not ex
exaggerating. My name is so and so. My
sister-in-law just died an hour ago in
Grenell, Iowa. It's an hour and 20
minutes away from De Moines. No one
knows of her. She uh has been
institutionalized. She was very sick.
She was um
in and out of hospitals. Um if kabad if
the kabad rabbi would like to give her a
a Jewish funeral, the family will not
stand to resist it. But one condition
you should know no money is coming from
the family. Otherwise, if you don't do
it, we're going to do a plan a to
cremate her.
>> I said, one second here. I don't even
know who you are. What's how do you get
my number? You know, thank you. Lucky
me. I get to pay for the whole funeral.
One second here. Who sent you to me?
Another rabbi. Whatever. I I called the
other rabbi. Whatever. It fell on me. I
I um but before I hung I said I said,
"Uh Ronnie, let me call you back on this
one. I got to find out what's going on
here." You know, Robert, you're right.
Maybe, you know, I had no right to call
you this way. I don't know. You don't
know me. Maybe we'll just go with plan
A. I said, "Wait a second. Plan A is
cremation. Even when cremation, it cost
$3,500. You're going to have to We're
going to have to start somewhere. the
family [laughter] can't. Anyway, I said,
"Ronnie, let me get back to you." So, I
sit down. This is where when you have
these blind moments, you know something
big is going on. I look at the Reb's
face and I to I said, "Baba, what's give
me give me the the you know right now
that I I should have open eyes and to
see something more than here." Anyways,
as I collect my thing, I said, you know,
this doesn't happen today. I knew
our experience with God. He always
throws us on a hand wall the key for all
other
>> a curveball.
>> A curveball. I call back Ronnie. I said,
"Ronnie, listen. I'm going to do this
because my son's birthday is today and
my birthday is coming up in two days and
I'm going into 57 Zunfak
and uh I I have I feel good about this,
but on one condition. I need 3,500
commitment from the family because they
would have given up a cremation. So I
have something and
what do you mean no one from family will
give money? you know, we're going to
send out to my website and lua flowers.
Everyone should help to help bury so and
so her name in fact this should be in
husk. Her name is Alish Ali Bashf.
I don't know how she looks like. We took
upon ourselves. Anyways, I call up a few
liter friends who always come by the
deli and um I called them up. I say it's
right before the nine. It's right before
the nine days. I have a mess mitzvah. If
we don't get her buried, I don't have
the money.
>> Um,
>> what does it cost for burial?
>> So, we're looking for to raise 14,000.
>> 14.
>> 14 to 16,000 because we want to do
>> anyway.
>> Where is she buried?
>> She Were she buried? No. No. So, we
raised the money. She buried. She's
buried under Orthodox. We did everything
in Iowa. Yeah.
>> So, a Levia cost 14
>> 14,000. Wow.
>> Yeah. But I heard Obaba Levia and be
buried by Iowa was like $35,000.
>> So, what I'm just curious
>> the shipping. So what happened was what
happened was the president as I am
literally took upon we started the
campaign
>> and these literature yungalites sent out
the SOS to their friends. Did you call
the collector?
>> I they I was getting calls from from the
from um from Lakewood. People were
calling me. I heard you're collecting
from me. Here take my card. Throw a
thousand 500. Within 24 hours literally
we raised the money.
>> Most of them some a lot of the family
members also while this is happening
this house gets on for sale.
>> A sign.
>> A sign a sign gets. So, we right away
get involved. The guy has to move in
three weeks because he just got a
letter, a job offer where he's gonna
make a good job in in
uh where is it?
>> Somewhere
>> in Massachusetts.
He has to leave. And it's like I'm I
tell my honey, you won't believe what's
going on here.
>> So, [clears throat]
we're on this house. It it was it was
like we felt like D is saying you're
getting my daughter back to me. You're
bringing her back to my home. I'm going
to give you the home you wanted.
>> A guest house. And this is what's going
on. So, while I'm dealing with a with a
>> with burying a yid in the ground from
the ground up, something's coming out.
>> You can't make this stuff up.
>> You can't make it up. I can tell you, I
make up stories that are happening in
real life. In real time,
>> he keeps
>> So, [laughter]
they gave him a good price. A good
price.
>> It was a good Listen, it was a good
price. If we waited, maybe waited a
little bit more because they were
desperate because But you know what? You
got to
you know,
>> has the indoor pool.
>> Did you call back the mage mitzvah guys
and say, "Hey, another thousand maybe."
>> Listen, what's on my birthday? I called
the brother-in-law. I say, "Hey, I
noticed you're the only one that didn't
give a credit card." Rabbi, I can't
give. I could only give 20. If I give
more than $20, it's going to go into my
lunch allowance. And I say, "Hey,
listen. I just committed to to bury a
woman I never knew in my life. I don't
know who she looks like. And and you're
a brother-in-law. You're crying about
$20 just $20." Anyway, an hour later, I
get a call from him. Jacobson, did you
see what I actually sent you? What? I
look, he sent $20,000.
>> Whoa.
>> I said, Ronnie, wow, my day is really
getting good today. [laughter]
He said, "No, no, no, no, no. I need you
to send it back."
>> I sent it by mistake.
>> I said, "What happened here?" It was a
glitch. I said, "Ronnie, I'm aid man.
And I learned a lot of and the Reb
taught me number one, when mistakes
happen down here, it's God's way of
saying he's fully in control from up
there. And I went into this to go with
God's plan before I went to. So I'm a
big issue right now. Do I go with uh
God's plan and you're not getting back a
penny or with what Ronnie didn't plan? I
didn't know what to do. And Ronnie
saying, "What does that mean?" I says,
"You heard it. I don't know what to do."
What do you do? I went into the
so uh he says so uh you're saying you're
not going to give back the money I says
well why can't you get it back called
the credit card say you made a mistake
says well that's the that's the thing I
tried they said since I actually wrote
down who I'm giving it to and everything
I the only way I can get it back is if
you the organization I said you're
asking a I said is this for real through
this whole thing now I have to give
[laughter]
it
So then I said, you know what, Ronnie,
listen. I believe in the midst of
So I said, I'll give you back the 20,000
on condition. You give Msa from the
20,000. Give $2,000 and then the
campaign is up. We're good. Otherwise,
you're going to have to hire a lawyer
and you you have to give $10,000 and
retain it. So you lost$10,000.
[laughter]
That's not good. So, but this how many
people could say they made $18,000 in
one day?
>> What happened?
>> And I told him, and I guarantee you, you
give me my and it's going to go for your
sister-in-law's uh
>> this 2,000 is going to turn into 20,000.
He says, "How do you know? How do I
know? Cuz your $20 just turned into
2,000." [laughter]
He he he did it with Simka. He sent back
2,000. And with that money, we actually
paid for the headstone and kadesh for a
whole year. That summed it up. And you
know what the crazy thing is? It took 24
hours to raise all the money, but it
took me three days to get a million.
[laughter]
>> So, how'd you get the money to buy the
new house?
>> What? So, the equity the equity of the
deli
>> you refied
>> from every pastrami sandwich that paid
off the building and tongue sandwich
the bank we were healthy and plus the
house that is paid off. We were able to
get right away a loan. So, you see it
took one pastrami sandwich after
another. Now, you know how became
wealthy? Here you go. [laughter] was one
tongue sandwich after another tongue
sandwich. So that's the So I'm telling
you one mitzvah became the key to you
talk about Mr. G mitzvah. So now we're
now we're ready working to build a
beautiful shul and uh 12 bedroom what
>> with a pool.
>> With a pool it comes Yeah.
>> And uh
>> an outdoor pool.
>> Indoor.
>> I was very cold. No,
>> you can't have an outdoor pool.
>> No, no, no. It's indoor pool. And uh you
know what this is? You know what
>> how much is this project costing you?
It's going to be probably a million.2.
But uh you know what? You know how we
going to do it? I said to my wife, how
are we going to do it? How how do we do
anything now? We know the first question
is how we're going to do it. And then we
ask another question. How did we do it?
You got it done. You know, I believe the
Reb gave a beautiful
you start the process and the says I'm
yours. Wow.
>> You got to start the process. You start
the process. You go up. Dish is there.
>> Robert Jac, how I know you started the
deli, you were how many pounds more?
>> Okay, now you're getting very personal
here.
>> Yeah,
>> but most people are struggling today
with weight. So, go on. Yeah.
>> Oh, I'm sorry.
>> I want to talk about his
>> So, the bal buser became a bal.
>> You start How do you lose weight? How
how many pounds you lose?
>> The the help with Abisha's help and some
doctors de la over 180 pounds. You lost
180 pounds
>> after you open the deli.
>> My wife tells me till now till now you
were no malf. [laughter]
>> You lost 180 pounds. Most people weigh
about that. You lost the full body.
>> I don't want to say lost cuz then
someone said someone told me if they
find it, should they return it?
[laughter] It's not lost. It's gone.
>> Wow.
>> We don't want if we don't want it back.
>> You used to be a big
>> I was a big
>> You're half the man you used to be.
[laughter]
>> Tell me about what was the question you
about to ask.
>> How do you open a deli and then
>> lose weight? usually the opposite.
>> The truth is I tell people with every
pregnancy I grew with my wife cuz I
wanted to know I'm with her.
>> Just after after every birth I I just
kept on growing. So after a while with
all the collection of all the It was all
baby fat by the way. It was never me. I
I barely ate.
>> How much of the 180 pounds that you lost
did you say you gained because you
worked in a deli?
>> You were tasting the food making sure it
tastes good.
>> So this is why we were never making
money. I ate all the profits [laughter]
and and there was no room for anyone to
come in because it was it was
No one could come in, you know.
>> Wow.
>> So I started learning that
talks a lot about the more you become
the more you the more ble the more the
less of you the more of God you become.
So I tried. So in a time when when all
the transgenders were coming out I said
in a time when everyone's you know
losing their mind let me talk and see if
I could lose my stomach. So I was
inspired by many people to people who
came to say to me, "Rabbi,
you you you got to you got to lose
weight because we need you in the
community." And one one lady came and
crying and she tackle lost a lot of
weight. She had their surgery. And what
really got to me is when I went to the
post office, the guy behind says to me,
"Rabbi Jacobson, if you get any bigger,
you're going to become a domain all to
yourself. We'll have to allocate a new a
new zip code just for you." [laughter]
Then I called Rev. I said, "You know
what? I never understood what a mahalak
is." is it a shila I could walk out on
Shabas. He says, you know, Yasi, if you
can become any vigorous, how can I
become a shila? You're you're you're
like a
you can walk out on Shabas, you know,
>> wild.
>> So, so when I realized in the world,
it's becoming you were close to 400
pounds.
>> 350 close to 350 in a small body.
>> What? So um but there's this one woman
who really lost weight. She came in in
tears and she said,
"So I, you know, I I looked in the
mirror. I spoke to myself and I said,
"Uh, here here is no reb here's no here
you got to here you got to make a
personal decision. Here there's no
there's no uh
>> there's no going with the you know the
forbid to give back any
you can't give up anything of yourself."
You know, every every part of gash is
kadusha. Look how much kaduca I carried.
And here you have to it just kicked in.
A second one came into me and I said,
you know what? Enough is enough. Maybe
if I lose all this weight, it'll make a
kadeshm and I'll win the community even
more. And taka when all the weight was
lost, the community could not feel
proud. I mean, it was like worth it was
worth to gain all the weight to lose it
>> to feel so good.
>> So my greatest loss was my gain. and I
gained the community. People started
coming in and buying because they
realized the rabbi ain't eating him.
He's not going to eat the province
anymore.
>> So, how long did it take to lose that
that amount of weight?
>> So, we had, like I said, I I I went
through uh
>> the sleeve. You took the sleeve or the
or the rubber band.
>> I I I had the full
>> sleeve.
>> I had another bliss from
>> they cut they cut the stomach down, make
it smaller so you get hung. You get you
get full much quicker. Bash me.
>> I I I Yeah,
>> it's a genius surgery. You cut you you
cut down the stomach. So, now when you
eat a little bit, you get full. But you
have to keep shrinking it. So I drink to
shrink. I drink more today than I eat.
>> That's smart. Liquids are not so fat.
>> Liquid is a procedure and they get fat
again.
>> You You could make the sleeve stretch.
How? I thought they cut down the
stomach.
>> You know, you could you could go back.
[laughter] You know what?
>> You could go back.
>> So, you know, you just eat smaller
amounts of food now.
>> So, I'm careful. I'm I'm very careful.
I'm very careful.
>> But you do get full from eating very
little amounts of food.
>> Yeah. If if I eat too fast, I eat
standing and sometimes I you know, you
just get you get full.
>> So, it regulates you. Yeah.
>> So it's perfect.
>> So your own body is basically talking to
you. Your your fat brain is saying eat
more. Your stomach is saying you go to
the gym now, right?
>> So exercise a lot.
>> But until 60 seconds ago, I thought you
were going to say you took the the
shots. You know, the shots, the skinny
shots everybody's taking.
>> That's the the cheap easy way. You did
it the proper way. You went No.
>> I I I you know what? I I I I tried
everything. My whole life I've been
struggling with weight. And uh my
friends know uh I I I I you know uh for
when I was I was always chubby very very
fat. I I struggled with weight you know
since I was a kid. In fact I want if I
if I may say a story about my chubbiness
what was the year that Reb wanted all
the kids to come down to Hakus. It was
after the Rashag the year after the
Rashag passed away. Right. What was it?
>> Tash passed away. No meas.
I was 11 11 years old or 12.
>> One second. You were born in in in
68. Yeah, it's 1968.
>> After the festival, you ready 20
something?
>> So, it was a year after the Reb asked
for all the kids to come.
>> Whatever year it was.
>> So, you know, I was this very big kid
and the only way to get to the to the
everyone was passing you over.
>> Yeah.
>> So, they tried to pass me. It wasn't
going too big. I was too big for this
for and my shirt came up. I was
embarrassed and I thought anyways but I
still had a good s and I felt so
we come to
I should have just let it go just I get
there you know and I felt I got in my
own way the dancing with the because
I'll never forget the reb's face with
the and the kids were dancing with theb
and where was I just standing with with
all the
so I decided I have to lock eyes with
theb that night as a kid I can't myself.
I had this. So when the was leaving the
I'm I'm at the Reb going upstairs. I'm
right there.
I'm right there and um
the Reb comes and you know they're
singing the
and I'm right there. I'll never forget
the Reb looks in my eyes, stops,
looks in my eyes and does three times.
three times.
>> He gave you back the love.
>> Oh my gosh. That and you know what? You
know what? That moment when whenever I
go through something, I go back to that
moment and it's like
it's like you just get up and you go for
it.
>> But 35 years later when I brought Stuart
and three other to 770, they wanted to
come and I remember talking about
Balabat.
>> Three Balabat came. one of the one of
them that Misha is close with and they
came downstairs and I'm leading them in
to the to 770 and I look back and I see
three guys standing right there and it
hits me now I know why I got the three
three guys they were like embarrassed to
come in because you know they one
wearing shorts you know they thought all
the bak going to look at who cares if
you know there's an unknown scene in 770
so I tell them guys come in and then
then I tell them the story where you're
standing right now you're scared to come
in this is where I got three hands from
the reb now the rebel you know make them
whatever you want but I'm just saying
that uh as it comes back
>> this is in the week of the
>> again thousands and thousands of and now
they bring balabat and they bring their
children you you moved to middle of the
midwest the middle of nowhere but you're
a young couple so you're already growing
up now you're raising children in the
Midwest where there's no alter babes Yes
based you have to go with thousands of
fellow friends. You have to raise
children in the middle of nowhere. What
was it like raising? How many children?
>> Seven.
>> Seven children in the middle of nowhere.
The closest Jewish community is how far
of a drive?
>> Iowa.
>> It's a few how long of a drive?
>> Three and a half hours.
>> Three and a half hours. Four hour drive
to anything Jewish like from you know.
What was it like? And what's it like?
And now you already have children that
are on near you. So what's it like
raising children and the social pressure
on who their friends are going to be?
How are they going to interact with
other children?
>> Will there be children to interact with?
So it was so for my the two older ones
was was was tough challenging you know
my my wife taught them or we you know
taught them but at that time also
and his wife
opened up and he you know he took kids
from Minnesota and he hosted them in his
house and
>> but again a 4-hour drive away
>> four-hour drive and they literally
literally took care of my kids like
their own kids.
Till today I tell my wife how could we
ever repay someone that you know gave
your kids the and not just that Kahila
with this labage and and Babiv and and
and Satma and Mkach and so they grew up
in a real Kahila seeing you know not
just Kabad and other ones and then so
the toughest time was driving taking
them out of the house go getting packed
up the tears
>> when every week
>> every week sometimes every other We'd
bring them back. We'd meet someone
halfway. But uh and but once they were
in the car on the way, everything was
fine. But it was it was tough. But
>> so you had the experience of the sending
out and you don't know what's going to
be and you're sending your kids away.
They should grow up in you had to send
your children away every week, every
other week growing up in elementary to
go four hours away to Iowa.
>> Seven years old. They all they all went
they were dorming a week or two at a
time without their parents to do the
serious
Yeah. And you know these kids you know
they didn't ask for it. They you know
but they you know every what kid wants
to leave their homes they want to be
with but they went and they were raised
this way and uh you know they were
always told going out of our way is our
way. You know
>> this is our way. It's not like Rabbi
thank you for going out of no this is
what we were raised to do. This is who
we are. This is what is this is what
every is. Remember, you didn't grow up
in conventional. Your wife's wife for
catering family. They didn't grow up a
conventional. You guys grew up with so
you knew this is what the wants. You
jumped in like generals army. You jumped
right in and you took and your children
now have to live it.
>> We were from the first Hashem. You're
talking to a fivestar general right now.
>> Literally.
>> Literally, we took off the hats. We went
by. Yeah. We were We were the first ones
to put the hats on. This the real lobby
of Hashem you're talking about. No.
again because we were not we didn't have
any connections you know um we knew that
you know it's either all or nothing you
know we had to just come
>> let me ask you a question we're sitting
upstairs in 77 the eastern parkway kabat
headquarters did did you have a close
relationship with her
>> I mean growing up
>> growing up anything
>> no I mean we he knew my family I mean uh
we we
was he involved in your
>> oh with yeah
>> what was his involvement His involvement
was to um get us in once we were there
established. He came down a few months
later.
>> He himself flew down to
>> himself came to do a few. He went to De
Mo can um Wisconsin um where Rabbi Pine
Cement is um
>> Arkansas
>> Arkansas Utah. So he came to help all of
us
>> 19 1992.
>> Yeah. So he would he met Malabatam and
said look you know we're gonna help but
could you help? you know, he helped us
get something going. I mean, it was
literally the minimum to live on,
literally. And uh so we had uh you know,
he broke us in. Rabbi Kasu was very
helpful and you know, getting us
>> to build a mikvah, right? He brought you
>> know, uh then we had to build a mikvah
because you know, unfortunately our
success was getting in the way of other
establishments, you know, that where
they were not accustomed to seeing Kabat
succeed. You know, uh, even the
federation that time even offered us
money. Uh, how much would you want for
you to move out
>> to move out of your
>> to move out and sign a 100 miles? You
can't come. [laughter]
>> And uh, really they I said, "You guys
would you guys would give us a full
tache of cash just to get us out?" He
says, "Yeah, it would be the biggest
investment in Judaism for us to keep you
guys out." see how people see how people
see and how people don't see you know so
there are pe people who see things for
what they're totally not and there are
those who who see for what they totally
are
>> yes your kids it's been a talk now chats
with different
>> we didn't finish this what happened so
what happened with the mikvah
>> I'm sorry
>> so so with with the so helped us with
with with George Ror at the time to to
build our own mikvah
>> what year is this
>> this is the year after the kyo came um
what happened was
>> all the after the mikvah the deli or
something.
>> Oh, every everything we everything is a
braha. This is where some have to be
very careful. Even something that you
think it's I call it the naked the the
blind blessing, not
other people call it terrible things.
No, no, no, no. It's the blind that the
needs you to open up your eyes a little
bit more and you'll see the diamonds are
right there. Sometimes we just we just
we put a lavush of sheer to it.
It's terrible. And we deny ourselves the
brahad is there.
So we we got the mikvah going. H there
were reasons where we had
>> you need money all of a sudden to build
your own mikvah because you're not
welcome in the other one. So you call up
in Mosha. You say hello I'm in Iowa.
>> That's a nice way of saying we were not
welcomed. That was a nice way.
[laughter]
>> So how does it work? You call them up
and they say you build was fighting to
get into a mikvah that that you were not
welcomed anymore and building your own.
And we just felt it would be easier to
raise the money to have your own, you
know. And this is around 2002. How much
money would it cost to build a mikvah?
>> Then it was close to 60,000
>> which today is like 100 about 150 grand
today.
>> Small mikvah.
>> So who did you call?
>> What
>> you call him up?
>> I said we need money for a mikvah.
>> You want a 5,000? He can't help
everybody. So why
>> we told him the story and he went to
George told him what's going on and
George says we got to help him. We got
to you know one thing there's already a
kash mikvah but it's not if they mish if
they lock this guy his wife out of the
mikvah
and it's like you know who does this you
know it was and it was it was to get
even with who you know with what you
know I did I didn't even know what I did
you know uh whatever
>> that's what I always tell people that
are picking at me what did I do wrong
>> yeah what did I do wrong though you know
>> and he came through
>> so he helped and ripport helped
>> how much money did No, I mean we, you
know, this one gave 10, this one gave
10, this one gave, I raised, you know,
we raised money and we got it all done
and it was, it was the first mikvah.
>> Well, one final thing right now there's
different top different conversation
going on about kids growing up in the
middle of nowhere that they have social
problems because they don't they can't
talk to other kids, their age and they
acclimate and causes emotional problems.
What do you have to say about that?
Number one, the parents have to be
transparent to the kids. You got to tell
them everything going on in the world
exactly what's going on, all the aas
that are going on and why we don't do it
and why this is not our lifestyle and we
don't wear this because we and you have
to give the realis. It's giving over
realis. If you hide something from the
kid, they know you're hiding a hundred
other things from them and they're going
to find out in the wrong way. You have
to give them the perspective. You have
to take the the bite out of the snake
and you got to show them and you got to
and and and tell them tell them those
parents who are keeping things from the
kids uh don't tell them so better they
don't
>> what about they they are hurting their
kids and they're causing their kids to
do what they the opposite of what
they're trying to achieve.
>> What about friends and the fact that
they your kids grew up with friends in
the neighborhood or
>> my kids they went to Postville they had
friends in yeshiva till today they had
friends and they grew. So we like I say
>> no resentment.
>> Look
>> your kids ever complain why didn't we
live in De Moine or it never happened?
>> It never happened. I mean you know
>> your son moved back so I guess it was
great.
>> Great
you know uh every one of our children um
have found in their own way
based on what we gave them. They have
found it on their way. It became their
god, their their
and taking letting them take ownership
over it. Not taking ownership over them
that they have no ownership over
anything. Trusting them, trusting them
with things that you might not trust
yourself because they they'll get it
faster and they'll get it from you and
they'll come to you first and
everything. Well, let me ask my father
because he has a good perspective in
looking at this whatever. So we figured
out that in your schis you were able to
take that place that location and make
it into a hustling bustling kabad house
doing your own unique exotic way of
having the deli and meeting politicians
and having people come through and now
you're opening up a kabat house with 12
bedrooms and hosting people and a pool
>> we meet we meet yidden who who live next
to kabat houses and other places never
walked in
>> right
>> that come here because what houses
>> so my question is
>> this is this normal who does this
>> my question is the week of
when thousands of from around the world
are coming now onto Brooklyn, New York
and they're thinking about their in
day-to-day life. I don't know. I know a
few dozen maybe, but I don't know all
the moves to a town and let's say he has
a minion once a week or twice a month or
maybe he has a shear here and there and
he feels like he might have extra time.
How does a
take on another unique exotic
and turn it into like a nineto-5? For
example, could a be in an area where
he's not doing much except for on the
weekends and high holidays in Kaneka and
could he decide that I want to take on
20 nursing homes and give sher to
seniors every single day or this youth
there's a lot of schools and I want to
start doing daily things with youth. I
saw today I saw this this guy one day
that runs the CTEs they want to open up
another hundred locations for seen
lounges this year. It's a big you know
this rifan guy he wants to take on big
project. He opened up another hund but
again how does a decide how to take on a
new unique project. I don't know if
every will work opening up a deli. I
don't know that every head would open up
a deli.
>> By the way, yeah, since we opened the
deli, a lot of did deli night. They
called me up. Some people came down. I
tell them charge $35 a night. They said
dollars. I said you Jacerson when we
advertised I put in suda for free. No
one comes. I says that's why THEY DON'T
COME.
>> OH,
>> value yourself. Value what you do. And
they did it. They called me up. We had
200 people.
Yes. He says, "Yeah, because everyone
knows a pastrami and Ryan and a kesh and
kosa and so is $35. Everyone knows if
you would make it $10, they know they're
getting junk." [laughter]
$35. Now you're talking. Now you sound
like a normal person. Who gives out
things?
>> Do you give a do you give a seminar by
they ever ask you to give a seminar on
how to open up a kosher deli?
>> I still don't know how to open it. You
just do it. [laughter]
You know, you know
>> my nephew does kosher delhi in Northern
California. Mandal winger. He's super
matzah.
>> Okay. So everyone, again, okay, I'm not
saying everyone has to off.
>> No, I'm saying what the
>> you know, but everyone needs to it needs
to do the most craziest thing they know
they'll never do. Do it.
>> What's the craziest thing? When the said
now, we are in the of Msiah.
Do them. Bring down the light because
it's shining. Bring it down. Let it
shine through you and the transcend your
community with this light that is
shining. You know, don't don't don't do
the pim, but do the craziest thing. Find
out what your community what everyone's
going crazy about and turn such a thing
into. Okay? In in our community,
barbecues and Delhi. I mean, the Iowa is
from Buster, everyone, the cows, the
bashkin. So, do something that that's
hype it up. Do make a kosher deli.
>> Jacobs for coming on.
>> It's a pleasure. I was just getting
started.
>> It's been a lot of fun. It's been a lot
of fun. We're definitely going to have
to do a part two one day.
>> And I want to thank our sponsors. We did
not bring the product, but Crown Butcher
with amazing dried meat.
>> Love Crown Butcher.
>> Yeah, I The Delhi guy.
>> Yeah, the Delhi guy should bring back a
case of Crown. You could sell it. No, he
has dried meats. Crown Butcher. It's
under many flavors of beef jerky,
barbecue.
>> Feel terrible.
>> And it was delicious. We just had it
last week's podcast. We wereing it. It
was all protein, low fat, low calories,
low sodium. I don't know how it's low
sodium and so tasty delicious with the
best hasher butcher
>> and I think I'm going to make a between
you and crown butcher. You'll bring back
a couple of cases and sell it in the
deli cuz they'll eat the pastrami
sandwich and you say you need some
kosher food for the road. You'll give it
to them.
>> By the way, we we have a whole grocery
store and wine everything, you know.
>> And I have to I told Misha we have to
have hamatash in the whole year. Lkas
the whole year.
>> Every every staple of because if someone
had a dream of Bobby Ba Roa came to them
and remember they come and you have
Hamatashan, you know. Subscribe.
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>> I was not successful in ringing Yasi. I
thought I had the the leverage, but
clearly it was not enough to get Yas
Rabi Yasi here. Thank you so much for
coming. Pleasure.