Tzom Gedalia

foreign my name is yaakov Glasser and on behalf of the Orthodox Union it is my esteemed pleasure to welcome you to today's program over the last number of weeks the Orthodox Union has been sharing insights Reflections inspiration related to tefila through the program Behemoth so the notion that the period of the year that we find ourselves in at this time is a period of time that that God is more easily discovered and experienced it's a period of time that we are more attuned to our own inner spiritual selves as we strive to navigate the many many opportunities that we have for connection and for meaning over the course of these weeks of the yamintovium from ELO through tishray and over the course of this past period of time the Orthodox Union has published a number of differenti urim of insights of various forms of guidance from rabbinic leaders across North America and you may have noticed in many of our communities locally many robundum have taken it upon themselves to focus the community more on advancing our connection to the world of tefila we have with us today an incredible and illustrious uh group of rabbinic leaders before we begin I'd like to thank Rabbi Israel Matson and Rabbi Moshe brandsdorfer for all of their uh incredibly hard work on uh on in pulling this program together and with us this afternoon on this song Medallion we welcome all of you who've come together with us to grow in our uh quest for strengthening our teela this afternoon we welcome Rabbi Moshe Hower Rabbi Howard is of course the Executive Vice President of the Orthodox Union ravmosha Weinberger the rub of H kodesh of Ephraim Goldberg the rabbi of the Boca Raton Synagogue all of our illustrious panelists are rabonim and communal leaders whose influence extend far beyond the local institutions that they lead and much of the reason for this is because of their incredible capacity to speak from the heart and to the heart and so therefore we are incredibly excited inspired and elevated by the opportunity to be able to bring together in particular this group to try to reflect on aspects of FILA as we work ourselves to grow in our connection to tefila as we know tefila is Central not only to our religious lives as certainly one of the core elements about the expression of our relationship with the Karishma but it's also a context in the rhythm of our religious life it brings us together as a community it brings us together as families it connects us to a central world and that's why in particular this year with the configuration of our calendar where we encounter so many moments that we are sharing together over the course of these weeks of tissue in shul it is of particular significance for us to gather and discuss and reflect areas of tefila I want to begin our discussion today with a little bit of a personal reflection I grew up in the home of and my father who for decades leads the sibler and the yamim no rhyme filos would always begin this season of yamim narayam actually in a very uh unpredictable space and that is the final hour of Tisha buff in our home my father would always recite Neil and he would tell us all test conditions and from that final hour of Toshiba each and every Friday night as a kid I would fall asleep to the news House of the yamim no run and they became part of my Consciousness part of who I was and so As I Grew Older and began to appreciate the filo the filos themselves so much of the emotionality of the experience came from my own origins in relating to the world of yamanora when we approach shul when we approach davening we carry with us not only whatever we can understand and comprehend we carry with us a certain experiential Dimension certain emotional attachment to these days which makes them high stakes it makes them days that we are trying very hard to connect in a meaningful way and when it happens we feel such a sense of achievement and success in the sense of meaning and when we feel like there's a barrier there's such a deep frustration and there's such a consternation at being unable to kind of pull together what we know is out there in the atmosphere in the spiritual atmosphere as an incredible opportunity for us to be able to connect to the revolution and so we'd like to begin our discussion this afternoon with the following question and that is that the tequilos that we just recited of Rosh Hashanah the tilos of Yom Kippur which we're going to recite soon are saturated with many many themes we had mafios shofros on Yom Kippur we're going to focus on the avoda that took place in the base amigdash we're going to focus on that sarahah there are so many pyutim there are so many elements to the tefila that projects so many different themes connected and related to our voter session but as we enter this zone of FILA we're also bringing with ourselves the totality of our own Human Experience we have so much that we want to ask for that takes place not in the upper worlds of what's going on in the basement but takes place in our own homes in our own schools in our own communities in our own lives in our marriages and our families and all the different aspects of life that we are struggling with so what I'd like to open with in our discussion is if we can ask our uh illustrious or abundant to reflect for a moment how do we balance that when we open the master where is the space and I don't just mean specifically where do we ask for things but how do we Embrace this experience at once connecting to the themes that are ever present in the moxer and the davening itself and at the same time personalizing this experience so we feel like we are actually bringing ourselves and our lives and everything we're looking for in the authenticity of this connection with the Karishma in these very Central moments of the Jewish calendar so we'd like to begin with rev Weinberger first of all thank you so much I'll be glad to have yaakov and it's I want to thank the the OU the Orthodox Union and uh we're friends all of us are friends about Hashem I think that's a much more uh much greater title that we have that we share amongst each other that we're friends and it's wonderful to be together and we should all be together with the entire tablet whatever is whoever is part of this to be together new shalima um I would just begin I'll just begin with the following I think I'll begin with the end the kasima the end is Nila everything that we're doing during this time is to reach that point of the ending and the end is it means that man was set aside from the beginning to be able to stand in front of Usher to be able to face Hashem and now darling yesterday and then it's not a type of we were saying cold boy or a lump over on and therefore it's very very easy for the individual to lose himself in the in the monumental Universal picture of the trailers and the master to lose the toughness of all of these Thrillers and all of these days which is to be able to finally look at Hashem in the eyes after a year of sort of looking aside a little bit and being distracted and sometimes forgetting who we are and getting lost in the crowd finally there's that time of call by Olam oven whichever one of the feet shot him the gemara one prefers it all means the same it means facing Hashem it means therefore in response to the question abiakov the the master has gotten very big over the years it's grown very large over the years that's not how davening started originally and it's picked up a lot over the years for many reasons the Ashkenazi Master is much larger than the saradasha one I repeat them are much more and and there's a lot that we that we don't say that's depended at the market so it was probably printed just to make us have some feeling of relief that we don't say those things but the master the master has gotten very very large and when it comes to all of when it comes to all of davening the the the point let's say of malhi is is always to reflect upon in the malachist reflect upon what is my particular role in this Hashem this pierced to you disappears to you that I that I fulfill my role as a faithful servant in that malchus of Hashem is how do I remember Hashem how is Hashem part of that memory of my point in this world my existence in this world did I bring that memory closer to the hearts of my of my wife of my children those of us I could have that to have that family setting where my friends to my students um cyphus to what degree to what degree did I did I make that presence that that that that that Clarity of hashem's presence to what degree did I make that a part of my of my life and my family's life and my students life and my my favorite one has to work very hard to personalize one's feelers one of the one of the essential teachings of of the sadikim particularly webinarachment was that one has to take the Torah and to make it into the field that means that whatever we learn we have to try to transform that into trila and there's no question that we've learned many things over the year and we have to try somehow in the course of our davening to try to to look at what we are what we're driving in the context of of what we've learned and how we understand ourselves and how we understand yet this guide our relationship and to make it into something which is as personal as possible Isha wants us to express what we're going through at this time in my life not just to say like whenever we're saying to him was saying to Helen but we have to we have to see ourselves and tell him how do I fit into the master where am I in where am I in the sanity where am I it's not we shouldn't look at these as things that were said thousands of years ago but who am I in these two lists where do I fit into these to feelers and to make them as personal as possible thank you so much robefram first of all I too am humbled to be here thank you to the OU for organizing and to be with rebby and a mentor of Weinberger by Howard thank you so much for this honor and I'll just make feel a very personal for a moment I know it's on all of our our hearts and minds and all of our thoughts are the residents of Florida particularly the West Coast right now who are being pummeled as we meet and really in enormous Harm's Way uh in general of course all of the residents of Florida but the Jewish communities in particular we know so they're very much in our in our filos and we dab them for their safety and for their well-being we know that you will be there to help them as well all of us afterwards um to me you know I think we over complicate things as as Ruby was just saying it's reinberg was saying you know the master is long and it's intricate and it's Hebrew is complicated and we sometimes think of FILA as I've just got to get through it I've just got to say it as quickly as possible I want to discharge it as painlessly as possible I want to turn those pages as fast as possible when I get to the end I'm done and I can exhale and it's a relief and it's finished and we fail to realize that the monster or the sitter for that matter because it's not a young man no rhyme issue it's a davening everyday issue it's a template and we're supposed to fill in the gaps by making it personal we're supposed to use the the template to be able to organize our thoughts and to obligate us even if we're not in the mood and to ensure that we show up and we say something even when it doesn't feel we don't feel like it but the highest level of feel is not what's printed in any any book highest levels was printed in our heart and I often like to think of it that if if you never talk to Hashem outside of the sitter or maxer you're going to struggle to speak to him inside of it if you're not involved in a lifelong conversation speaking to him unburdening to him leaning on him protesting to him thanking him if he's not part of your ongoing conversation throughout your day and throughout your life how could you expect when you open the master a bunch of words that so many are unfamiliar with and I I'll be honest here in a way that I'm not ashamed there are parts of the davening that I look at in the English there are p mute them that are so complicated that are making such assumptions about our working knowledge of tanakhana that I don't have whether it's putum or whether it's the sligos just this morning there were a few times I looked over in the English and I said it in the English because the goal was to be moved the goal is to be connected the goal is to come closer the goal is not to finish so I think we need to work harder and do better in in seeing it in the context of a relationship of a conversation that these words are a template for us to be able to fill in those gaps with very very personal things with very real things with a real sense that this isn't something I'm trying to complete or finish but it's a privilege and opportunity it's an audience it's an audience I'm sure everybody saw you know the memes that were going around of the people who waited online 10 hours to spend five minutes with a dead Queen we stood there for six hours to have the privilege to talk to a living King and that's not just a cute meme or a saying someone came up with a quip after the queen passed away it's at that message truth to it we have an audience with the King of Kings we can pour out our heart we have so many things to be grateful for we shouldn't take for granted and so many things we rely on WE depend on I look at my life and the life of the people I care so deeply about in our community and I think of how many people's lives have radically changed since last Rosh Hashanah in ways that they would have never even imagined or dreamed things that they didn't even know they would have to dab in for they would if you would have tapped them on the shoulder and say don't forget the Daven for this for you for your child for the community never would have dreamed so it's real it's real and the davening should reflect that reality of how real we feel it is and how much we are privileged to be in an audience with the King of Kings and the opportunity to speak to him and to talk to him and there's a lot more to say about this I'm sure what will go on in the conversation but I'll leave it with khazal understood that when they told us don't let our davening ever become don't let it be fixed don't let it be limited to the words on the page let it be real and fluid let it reflect a dynamic and an animated personality and a life and a lifestyle and the things that are going on in our lives and and if we're conscious of that as we dive him that we're not just figuring out words on a page and Rosh Hashanah this is you know it's almost as if we forget every year that the muss of Rosh Hashanah is the longest of the Year longer than you we think we're building up team that that's Monastery it's like it's an Iron Man it's an Iron Man of davening like you got to get through it's an Iron Man you got to get through and we're so focused on the word from the get it right which tune who was the singer which album did I hear that on that we forget that that this is all a template and a platform talk to him what's in your heart don't fly through it pause and meditate and reflect and let a particular phrase Let it enter you and enjoy it add your own words to that conversation interrupt take some deep breaths relax your shoulders be there we're in such a rush that simply someone these small reminders and I think it's even the permission it's the permission to slow down permission to take a breath permission to read the English permission to insert something personal all those things that we've been trained that we don't have permission for if only we realize that not only do we have permission but that's the ideal that's the most authentic I think it could have enormous impact on transforming Earth Fila thank you so much Rebecca Goldberg for power thank you thank you it's uh it's disgust to be to be together with with you all and and such in such an important discussion perhaps the if if I can add something to it you know to what has already been said so so it's so importantly and so strongly is to explore perhaps a little bit of the tension which we all experience in a very pronounced way I'm not sure but it's really there it's really there all the time so you know the sitter started off smaller the sitter we Tila started off without a sitter and we just had this general idea of we're supposed to acknowledge and ask him and then and then thank him when gazelle wrote The Sitter they wrote them you know everything that people that people would need and everything that people should need to a degree of course significantly we have those spaces in the avenue to express ourselves so that we are there as has been said by both by by of Weinberger by by Rob Goldberg it's critical it's critical that we connect that we connect that way but in a certain sense as we all experience in a profound way on Rosh Hashanah when we come to Davin and we know that we know that it's it's every aspect of Our Lives is on the line and we also know with a little bit of a little bit of knowledge that we have that the fact that we even say that in the sun attack is it sort of we could say it or we could not say it it's not essential to the toilet to put and and the davening itself is about big things it's not about is dispensable from this monastery is not and what hazal did was they said you know if he was supposed to fill your heart now the moralesis says is the the desire that fills your heart wanted us to grow our hearts to grow our hearts a little bit beyond the immediate needs which we feel with which we would readily and comfortably come to the ravanism who can provide it and they wanted us to expand and to think a little bit bigger beyond beyond ourselves and at the same time heaven forbid not to deprive the person of of also speaking to their version of exactly where we are you know we we focus on it a lot on Russian Yom Kipper because there's such a it seems almost such a disconnect between the core of the tefila and what we know is going on you know with the with the with the decisions in but in a certain sense it's there in every davening I I'm not gonna conduct this survey with the people on this call but I have conducted this survey with many groups and asked them okay so your weak Dishman history which Brothers get the most attention invariably there are three brothers that answer that and it's not the first bracha because that has a requirement of kavana there's Russia because people have Colin some people have people who need a recovery they have them in mind because everyone needs to make a paranasa and because there you could you know the child is struggling that's needed whatever it is the job that you're looking for if you didn't cover in Baruch Elena you're going to cover come back to the new is the catch-all where you can put anything in and it's a tiny fraction of even the bakashus of svenese the requests which Ghazal wrote for us were extremely lofty we're supposed to be asking for wisdom we're supposed to be asking for chival we're supposed to be asking for Hashem to be restored to us alive and for David's crown and for justice to be restored to the world but we zero in on the basic because we're people and we need to we need to speak to the river Where We Are said that we want to stretch you and we want to expand you and we want to make you bigger and we want you to be concerned and caring about these things and of course there's a there's going to be a tension in there for life because gravity has us with our basic needs and at the same time you know there's there's the reverse gravity that gazal tried to help us to lift ourselves up and that's something which is inherent inherent to to artificialis it's inherent to this female experience we need to ask where we are and at the same time to some degree there's a goal of trying to elevate Where We Are trying to broaden our vision trying to make ourselves bigger and both happen simultaneously and somehow we need to straddle it I I'd love to hear how how how how the other abundance feel about this you know there's some specific you know thoughts it's each one of us might have from our own experiences to how we manage that that tension but uh I think that's a core core to to to to how we approach the center thank you thank you so much for by Howard Rabbi Weinberger did you want to respond or no no let's continue okay um so in terms of all of us walk in to shul no Rhyme or some other time in shul and the reality is that we carry with us uh as we walk into shul multiple identities uh the piece of us that Davin still is one identity but we carry multiple identities uh some of us are to be fathers some of us are to be mothers some of us you know have parents that are around and so often The shul Experience involves multiple roles uh certainly as rabbanim when we are uh in shul and trying so hard to connect with Fila for ourselves and our own families we also have very much on our minds not just our kahilos in the realm of teela which is also important and wonderful but also some of the Practical issues that are unfolding that often characterize the rhythms of the davening in issue so we're sitting in shul and we have uh multiple identities we have multiple roles and for many there are uh blessed for such a role one of those roles is the role of a parent the role of a father or a mother and we're sitting next to our children and we are trying to inspire them to connect to tefila and it's been well established in many of our schools and in many of our schools uh that Fila is something that each generation struggles with in its own way and certainly the younger generation our children are children and grandchildren are certainly struggling with it in a unique way that is relative to the reality and the generation that they're growing up in so we're sitting with them in shul and we're trying to not only Daven ourselves but we're playing the role of mechanic we're also trying to help them connect to daveny so if our uh if our rabbanim could reflect on some guidance that you could provide for how we should both in a practical level how much of shul we should be encouraging our children uh to be present for and obviously we're dealing with a wide range of Ages um how much I'm sure they should be present for and how they can connect how can we share with them to connect to davening when their overall uh appreciation for life may not have the same Nuance the same life experience the same sophistication that perhaps you know we do when we encounter in this context of Phila some guidance in how we could help our children it's a lot of shul it's a lot of davening it's a lot of sitting what could we share with them and what could we be doing in school to make this a more meaningful experience for our children Robert Goldberg you wanna start us off um I'll take a shot at it and I think you know for Me Maybe for all of us we're we're still trying to figure that out um to State the obvious the best thing that we could do for our children is be the best role model for our children the the biggest platform for teaching them is by their seeing somebody who's genuinely and an Earnest pouring out their heart we're engaged in the avodashi believe which is an avoda you know we want Dominique to come easy we think it should come easy but it's called avoda a Voda should believe it's worked it takes work almost anything worthwhile in life takes work our children know that when they see us working for a living or a livelihood or working out with a trainer or on the Peloton or working for whatever other achievement or accomplishment in life it takes work the question is do they see us working on this too both intule and out of it are we working on it right Kola come out to those who are tuning in it's a community of people working on it and the OU the glass if you're running the be not so a whole ability for people to be working on it not just like Davin I'm done good Baruch Hashem for the day till I have to go to America but do they see us working on it not only in show but outside of shul but what is their perception you know we have in our own mind you shared by Glasser very beautifully your father's singing echoing still in your ears what do our children when they are recalling when they have Nostalgia for the ram of their youth what will they remember they're seeing with us what time did we get to shul what was our davening like in shul were we did we bring a library of books to distract us from davening when I was a kid at least the books used to be like Jewish themed book and Jewish authors they were swarm now you can see people will bring in all kinds of books just whatever they could do to have to like it's root canal to anesthetize themselves to get through it until they get to the end so again I'm not even being critical for some people it's very difficult it's very painful but what image are we painting what is the indelible impression that we're leaving what are the memories that we're searing into our children when they grow old and when they have to be a mother or father themselves and now they have that responsibility what will they emulate what's the model that they're going that's I think the most obvious in some ways the easiest and the hardest at the same time is to be on fire ourselves is to be overflowing and contagious and infectious with that feeling ourselves when they see us children tend to imitate their parents they want to imitate their parents and they'll imitate what they see in that but I think going back to the first question I I have six daughters and a son my wife is much better positioned to answer this for my six daughters she is Born the responsibility of being and she is an outstanding role model for them my son is nine and he started to now come to shul with me first of all I try to make it personal for him the same thing we were answering to the first question let's think about shy let's think about the people who need art filos we're coming we're talking to Hashem I'll be so proud of you if you get through the words I'll be even proud of it prouder if you close your eyes and you talk to him talk to him about school and your friends talk to him about the people we're davening for in life in our family friends who are not well and are neither of us give our children permission for it to be personal teach them that davening to do well in school or to be socially sound with their friends or to get along with their parents is not a poor use of davening that is what davening was designed for give them that permission give them that language give them that platform for it and I think when they're young again my son is nine I can just speak from experience the last two days is to try to keep pointing to something exciting is come coming up chauffeur's coming up Elena we're going to bow down is coming up I'm gonna put my Talus over both of us is coming up when they're young to point to make it fun to make it interactive to make it something who says particularly again there are different opinions and she does when it comes to Rosh Hashanah but it should be a happy day it's a joyous day you don't have to come and be miserable fun it's exciting the next point the next milestone in the davening in kitzvah the next exciting niggan that we're going to sing that we're going to lose ourselves in so I think when we give our children permission to realize that the highest Fila are not just the words on the page which we will be incredibly proud if they say and get through but also make a list make a list write down what an incredible exercise to write down the things you're going to Davenport and to stick that card in your master this year I made a card with all of our families names my parents my in-laws my wife myself my children my grandchildren all of our names with our mother's name and I made a copy for each of my children I put it in each of their room and in the master they had when their mind wandered or in their own amida or when they wanted to they like we're real people with real names we don't have to be part of a regular Fila of the regular Misha Berks people make but that this is our there's a lot to Daven for and the names of the Golem and the names of the people we know who are looking for the names of people make it real for children as much as we the child inside us craves that same thing that they want so I think that we have to be the best role models we can we have to be the best Surah of a person who's in the avodasha believe who's taken this seriously because what they see in US is what they're going to emulate that's going to be their their depiction of David thank you so much Robert Goldberg Rabbi Weinberger and just to follow up with what uh Goldberg was saying feeler I am filo I am davening we don't know what does that mean I am davening I I need feeler and uhm say that that if you have a person that that is coming to your door and asking for something to to explain what is it that he needs to talk to you and and you listen and respond but then you have another person that has very existence his very existence is to feel if somebody comes and he's starving and he's falling my whole existence is governing see I grew up in a home where my mother she should be well my mother's dining didn't start in shul she very rarely went to school in the old days most of the women that I knew growing up they went for years they didn't go to school on a regular basis but my mother she should be well and even now my mother her entire existence is if I need Philip she lives in a continuous dialogue with this really what was talking about if Goldberg was talking about that if diving is something which begins if a connection with Hashem is something which begins when you walk into the four walls of that Institution then it's it's very hard to get it started in that place there's a certain coldness and a distance that comes within any institutional any institution any building I I grew up in a home where Hashem was a living breathing organism the main lessons of FILA were watching my mother crying by lighting candles the connection was a very personal connection with my mother hearing my mother saying whether it was in Hungarian or in Yiddish hearing my mother saying uh was such a hard day could you help with this and could you and my mother speaking in such a way and to me uh to me going to shul was sort of taking that personal experience that I saw growing up and and going into that place of caducea with that with that sense of Hashem being ever present but Hashem being there every moment of my life and and I think that the children are like Rabbi Goldberg was saying the children are watching us they at the end of the day davening is something which which depends upon one's connection talk others I get calls all the time from different from all over the place about uh about discussing Fila and having a yomi yoon on the subject of three law different themes in Thriller and my response to all of these wonderful people in these conversations is that davening begins with emuna begins with the Vegas bashem it begins with having a connection and our children can tell from a very early time in their lives from the beginning of their lives they are able to smell whether they're Mom and Dad whether their parents have a relationship with Hashem whether their parents are living in a dialogue with Hashem not just they walk into a building and they have a chakra said whether my mother my father are living with Hashem every moment of their lives and that the culmination of that like like he talks about inclusion the pre the fruit the nakuda penis in the life of the khasid of the righteous Jew is is being able to pour his heart out but but means means alive in the in in our home the mushroom is alive in in every single moment of of of of our existence and and when the children feel that the parents have it doesn't it doesn't make that much of a difference whether they're whether they're um inspired in the context of especially the young age you know of what's happening with about feel at that moment of insul is that feeling of basala Kim the house that this is a place of elucus this is a continuation of of the relationship that my parents have and that and that I I have I I've grown up with in my house in my life it's just a formalization of something that I feel very naturally is part of my life thank you Irvine Burger everybody Howard I would almost just sit and prefer to absorb um I'll I'll add to two small things uh two small things um I I saw once there's a safer color dashboard I don't know if the others have seen it it's a safer which was written by a talmud of rosalba the subtitle is chapters of guidance to people who have done sugar but I never did show this I still sounded extremely extremely helpful and uh and um one of the things that he writes there is something which when I read it it was so it was like holding up a mirror scolding of a mirror was such a helpful mirror he wrote there and I assume it's from revolver's observation not from the author himself that he said that he over the years he's conducted an informal observation and he sees two kinds of parents that come with their children to show he says one parent comes to show and he makes sure that the child has the sitter and he makes sure that he's on the right page and then when it comes time to say rabba he looks over at the child and together they say rabba and then you know a little bit later he makes sure that he's in the right spot and so on and so forth that parents also when he's learning with the child or whatever it is he's always making sure that the child is there in the right place doing the right thing it says the other parent comes into shovel and sits down and starts to Daven and his child is sitting in front of him and he's looking here and he's looking there the parent frankly doesn't even notice doesn't appear to notice He's Just Happening he's saying Suki to Zimmer and when he when he's learning together with his child he's never making sure the child has his finger in the place he's just learning those nice like he's enjoying the machines and he says I've observed this the author says maybe it's revolva maybe it's a student I've observed this for years and then I watch what what's happening six years later six years later the child whom the father was pointing to the place and making sure they were saying the right thing the child doesn't even Ensure and the child who the father paid no attention to and was just davening that child is there just stopping so I can't speak to the formality of how clean the data is on that study but to me it was very enlightening and I would I I and I found it personally very valuable in raising my own children and it points as well and he it you know to me what I felt as well was that there's another piece to it which is another thing which is extremely extremely transparent to our children both those uh Weinberger of Goldberg Goldberg spoke about our children can tell you know when our davening is genuine when it's part of the fabric of our existence and and and and we'll follow that model they also can tell when we're trying to help them and when we're trying to be able to be proud of them now many times we bring our children to show and are concerned for how they're doing is because of how it reflects on us rather than wanting to make sure that they for their sake for their future for their developing relationship with the Revenge so that they have the best possible experience I want to make sure and this is especially true you know for us who are in the rabbinic uh field and we're under the Looking Glass and our kids get to share that uh you know that position it's kind of embarrassing if your child isn't uh isn't isn't isn't uh you know davening will or is you know is all over the place and our biggest goal when we bring our children to show is for them it's not for us and how that how that defines when we bring them for how long we bring them so it's it's it's it's so important it's so important as the setting for that decision and those decisions the second point I would I would want to share is you know there's some we've been speaking here about davening davening when you when you're walking down the street Daphne when you're home and then the davening and shoe there's a very particular value to the Avenue I'm sure and it's on display I would say Baruch Hashem unhesitatingly I think even more and more in many of our birthday knesses and that is that a sure there's a mocking Marina you know it's it's a it's a very interesting thing if we ask people why should you have an intro so people naturally say the second reason which is given in the gomorran brajas which is because Hashem is there you go to where Hashem is and you have proximity you can whisper in his ear as opposed to he's not necessarily in your in your house the Gomorrah says that is the second reason the first reason the Gomorrah says is because it's the mokai marina ensure is the place of song and Rashi gives their beautiful explanation you know you you sing alone you might have the most beautiful voice in the world but when people join together and there's you know of many voices joined together it's a whole different story kids who grow up going to school and learning how to sing the Daphne who who get to like the tunes again that'll only happen of course if the parent is modeling it if the parent is reading a safer or a book during the pyutin but if we're getting into it you know my favorite sounds of a sodium Kipper are those eight-year-olds and nine-year-olds whose voices with their specific tone you know come out in the crowd and you hear them singing you hear them singing and that becomes like Rabbi Glaser like you learn Ila you know you know that becomes their thing and and and when when davening is beautiful and swollen you get they get a note or a message from somebody after you know at the Surah we were just going over these this snake and that and again we were singing it together that's the win that's the wind that's infecting children with the love of him thank you can I just um yeah I just mentioned because I think it's so so important what you're it's very inspiring the notion of creating positive associations with children and many have negative about being yelled at or scolded of what time they got there that they weren't focused or how many bathroom breaks they took or that they weren't paying attention their finger wasn't on the place Justice yunt if there was someone there was a woman who had a peculiar seating request and when I when I asked why why should want to be there it had to do with trauma of her youth of feeling judged by the whole family of what time she got to shul and she's an adult and a mother and years later her association with Rosh Hashanah and her seating request is still connected not to positive memories but to a negative association of the trauma of being scolded and and all the examples you gave and I would love to hear uh more of the positive associations that we can create because when our children are young we're we're molding into who they will be as governors of tomorrow you know can I add one thing to this because what what Bobby Howard was saying was uh was so sweet and beautiful I I also have a professional six daughters and a son and uh and my wife is the daughter of a very famous a teacher of Hassan uh considered to be the biggest expert Hassan is probably in the world my uh my father-in-law you should be well and all of my girls know the nursery of inside out it they can mimic not that they're just mimicking at any point during the year if I if I drop like a note from we've had the same about Thriller a dear friend of mandra Bishop Kurland has been the same about Thriller now for close to 30 years and every King age every cracks every tear every Aaliyah and you read the in the niggan and the and then has become mamish woven into the fabric of my children's lives and only that but the kids in the show grew up with that I made a point because we had the fortune of having this not to switch around by lit feeling every year and haven't the children from the show wherever they go in the world they always I always get these messages I I got well I got a very whole bunch today from kids that are all over and yeshivas and I just all different places they're to be it was beautiful but I just we miss we miss being home those associations that that uh that with Harold was talking about that the children have with davening and it shouldn't only be on their own but obviously it's strongest being on their own those those carry them through life those that that's that's what they that's what gives them their their nishama in their darling throughout their lives there's no question beautiful beautiful um two of the themes that have come up uh over the course of the last uh Reflections that we just had uh relate to nagunim and also relate to the concept of seabor uh so I wanted to First just explore the certainly in the last number of years it has become so much more prevalent and so much more popular to saturate more and more of the tefila with nagoon um and I'm wondering whether or not um those that are with us today feel that this is overall a very positive Evolution whether or not it's coming at the cost of some of the Phila if that's something that should be of concern or of uh or of significance whether or not the types of negunim that are chosen are uh are a uh is is also something that should be thought about and whether or not any and all types of singing is appropriate at any moment in uh in its Fila in the davening to just reflect a little bit on where the Contemporary experience of FILA is uh specifically as it relates to negunim because it was so inspiring the way everyone spoke about how Negan was one of the you know points of connection that kind of you know really instill within a person a real sense of uh of connection to the overall experience so if you could just reflect a little bit on on this aspect of our governing that has certainly become uh a very very central part of our feel experience um Rabbi Howard you want to start us off um thank you I I um I of course properly Gundam has to be chosen uh there's such a thing as a as as the right tool for an assigned to take it from the wrong turn to take it um and uh you want to begin to match and uh and I'm also I'm a very traditional person in the sense of significant preservation is valuable is valuable but uh I I think the you know the addition the elevation of FILA into in of Negan and ardavening is uh is very very positive very very helpful uh because it it it it it adds to the beauty it adds to the to the to the eagerness of it if I will if I can I will share a story and I thought the story is that when I first became a uh a REV I I was I I saw my Ruby of Jacob Weinberg and Sam gedalia exactly that's okay so it's uh 28 years ago I guess today or 29 something like that 20 years ago say so so he said he said I don't know how was it so I said it was it was beautiful so he pushed a little bit more because I said you know and we did something I hope it's okay he said he was like the Pew Tim Mike for example you know instead of saying two lines and then singing it and then stop and say it and sing it he said we just we sang it straight and he looked at me and he said I love Mason if I could Institute that here in the Yeshiva I would and you know people who knew everywhere Weinberg he was not he was not a comments person you know if it's not enough but the the to me it was incredibly affirmative and of a path which I tried to develop further that that Fila should be up Negan should be a Hallmark of three land and makes it something which is which you don't have to be an intense person to experience the beauty of the beauty of it and I think it's a big addition for all the reasons we've said the additional thought I would say is the following and that is everyone I know on the planet struggles with kavana with Focus it's hard to Daven it's hard to focus on Arts field we start saying the words we mean well we get in the zone but you know quickly quickly our minds wander you know what one of the best ways to focus on something is when you sing a Hearts again when you sing a heartfelt tomb people get less distracted you can sing on Silver Terrace Hashem to MIMA 400 times in a row with elevated and elevated and elevated Focus that about the beauty of the tire you can sing Israel and sinking helps kavana in this world where we are grasping and struggling how can I help myself Focus we have a fantastic tool it's a fantastic tool thank you another Weinberger I I don't think I could if I start with this then we're gonna we're gonna run into Yom Kippur I'm not quite sure the Tinus is over in a couple hours look I'll just say this that when we started when we started Mr Trump's going to be part of H will be 30 years ago when we started so at the time it was considered to be very very very revolutionary we could bring him David in and then later on Katz the holy Brothers and and then uh every year we bring in for the for the age countries we bring in Joseph Cardona and and I remember those early years um along with other things uh that gave cause for concern among the more conventional however they should all be well was the musical uh Obsession of H kodesh the show was named after it's at snow was himself a virtuoso a violinist and wrote I wrote absolutely astonishing that survived the war and and all of us see this is he knows deeply deeply deeply tied into niggum tried to think of how many in the gun and you know from before the time of the belshanto the very few that we could that we know among ashkenaziability very few that we know from before very few we have but very few that we could remember at that time it was the object of of mockery and Scorn by many many other uh fine uh shows and and finer about him and I could say this that now everyone everywhere I turn I see that this is being uh I don't want to use the word imitated it sounds right I don't want to talk that way but I but I see that that it's become very very much in demand that that as we get closer to Messiah said is All The Thrillers all the children there's so much to talk about when a Jew would come we have a Kabbalah when a Jew would come and he was crying over his so the so that he came to bring a carbon to the levian the the coin that was over there that would make a cement to the living they would play a and this this poor would cry over the karma cry over the carbon until finally you know and then and then and then the semen would be given by the coin to the Levine to play neganj and all of a sudden it would break out into a negative and this year then the kind would dance together this is this is the this the world is Nagina [Music] so I've had this discussion I mentioned my father before so he's very annoyed when he comes to his son were able to have him we switched off with with uh with the rest of the family to have my father you know every month for Shabbos and I'm always worried about what's going to happen during the in my because his he is and I always have the same conversation as I'm willing him home and I say but sure but you see these Jews are like they're happy they're enjoying the davening it brings them to it it brings them to life and you know I there so he always says something like that that's so look I have my I have I have my limitations I don't have any musical accompaniment there's no even when it I'm not talking about I don't have any of that this Rule and and I I insist always that we stay with the nurse said I am from the old school I'm very traditional and I believe that the nusser is however the room for Ingenuity for creativity with holding the gun that Ezra Howard said are consistent with the words that were they were saying with the mood they were trying to create then the Negan is the country those are the Eagles wings those are the wings of David and melach that when that without without a niggins our our our words are grounded once came he was brought to a certain shul and and the it was a huge beautiful shul and uh it was far away from where he lived and he was brought to that shul and they opened the doors to welcome in the balcanto and there was nobody in the show it was uh whatever Ben had fearless and the the belshanto said that I I I can't I'm sorry I can't go here it's too crowded and they didn't understand what he was talking about there wasn't a soul there wasn't a person in the show said I can't go in because these three lists when they never ascended there's no song there's no feeling there's no emotion they're wonderful Jews but the tearless they don't have those wings of double mouth to ascend to soar to the highest place that take our trails to the highest place and we see that we see that those places that that was uh Russia that we see that I remember my web is my web is of Devilicious that was my baby you're very close to my mistake illusion and by David he described to us he remembered when Ramesh appeared from Lublin but rameship was a big and a used kamikakum when a mere shapir came to gradner and I my rabbit was crying when he told us over to the guys that mayor Shapiro came to grodner and with schumachka there was a Friday night there was an ironic Shabbos that's what they called it over there we call it a fabrangan or a Tish and there was a Tish there was an inic Shabbos there were many Shapiro came there and and my Rabbi told us that shiman scope was there it was until 4 30 in the morning that that was sitting there with ramay shapir and Scott was the whole time crying and and he wanted more than anything like her of Weinberg many years later how do we bring this Earth how do we bring this ruach into into our darling into our lives so this is something which is from the beginning from the very beginning and it's the light of mashiach and as we get closer to mashir the music is growing stronger and stronger and stronger we have to be careful it should be holy music I'm not going into that because there's a lot of of what's so called Nagina that's that's just a very poor imitation of what's out in the street and we'll be here pounding on the you know on uh coming from the cars that are you know pulling up at the red light together with us it's not that it's not Nagina but real Nagina you heard that our big glass so that's what you grew up with Nagina it's all coming together and she is going to teach us that big Negan of Aina Movado thank you Robert Weinberger Rabbi Goldberg you're sure I'm sure has people who would love the H kodesh environment and uh approach and I'm sure also a few people that are struggling to one day get to the level that they can fully appreciate naginas I'm sure you're balancing different constituencies and we all know that you make all of them happy all of the time all the time 100 of the time yeah yeah that's that's our understanding so take a survey Goldberg a little behind the bema of BRS and help us understand how music and Nagina manifest itself in uh in a show like yours in an experience like yours I appreciate it and and I'll just I'll be brief in adding because I don't feel as strongly I only feel strongly about the point that you're making which is the notion of the diversity of the different things work for different people first of all of course you know I agree I remember if I'd almost broke out a few years ago and and it was like almost a riot so the nuts of their parts of davening that should be Kardashian there are parts that there is leeway and room for creativity I also come it skipped me but I come from a family of Khazana my great uncles the Norman Brothers Macy Norman was the founder of the Bell School his brother my great uncle of illuminuman once once was davening somewhere where somebody used the wrong cabbage before named and he therefore dab in the wrong answer he wanted to take the person to A din Torah you want to take into a base to do a din Torah because they use the wrong and it threw him off so I also come from that place of Nisa and the role of the significance of and I also personally if I could fly over shower station with with it touches me very deeply I understand that I love it I believe in it the only difference that I would say is that people have a different shorts in the shama and not everybody is drawn or attracted to the same thing in the same style and there are people who dafka diving at different paces and diving in different style and so some people and and it's what moves them it's what elevates them it's what takes them to that place that everybody was just describing whereas for other people it would be a form of torture but people are are designed differently so you know we have many many animals over over all year long and that's part of that reason is to say that there are many there's a sharakolo for a person who doesn't conform to any particular shave it and what we try to create is a place that we don't make people conform or squeeze or have to fit in to one style but you know part of last night for me was the feedback from each of the minion you know this year okay what did everyone think how did it go what was the we're still coming out of as all of us are we're still coming out of Corona where we had 400 manyana men tents and masks and I was reminiscing the mask on the end of the chauffeur it's hard to even believe that we but but you know we're still coming out of that now and we're still realigning and reconfiguring and who's in which room and which Minion which which has on him and who came back and who stayed so as we're doing that we have to remember and I think that's part of the avode is to just because something works for me doesn't mean it has to work for everybody what shouldn't work for anyone is being disconnected which shouldn't work and we shouldn't be tolerant or we shouldn't want to accept is the person who says doesn't do anything for me but a person who says I find meaning and purpose I'm elevated and enriched but it's a different style all the way I'm this all the way as long as it's genuine it's real as long as it's so I think we should make that space for people to find what works for them and that's it there's a lot of a lot of people come out with pride in their minion and then a lot of judgment about Dominion they didn't go to the way they did it over there we should make that space and let people as long as we have what to work on and I think if we make that space and people can find uh what works for them as long as it's an elevating and elevating practice thank you thank you so much for my Goldberg um I think we we're gonna conclude with one one question that kind of maybe even combines too uh and ask for everyone's Insight in everyone's reflection and that is that you know we're all gathered here it's really kind of the culmination of the momentum that was driven by the larger efforts of the himatso program and everything that's going on in the Jewish community for us to try to reach higher in our rochnius and our spirituality and our connection with the rabbana shulalum and there's no question that those that have taken time on a work day which is they're few and far between this year in terms of the calendar and uh especially on a fast day everyone's a little more tired without the coffee to be able to reflect and to be able to connect and strive to grow an art to feel alone this is the period of time where we're working on it but we also know as we go through this period of time that there's a simple story that Rabbi Howard referred to where we will dance and dance and dance and that's in cristora will ultimately conclude with the myriv and uh after that my Riv we will I don't want to say return to life as before but we will continue with the magal Ashana with the years momentum without these uh contexts that energize us and uplift us and one of the things we're all thinking about is how could we grow within this period of time in particular as it relates to tefila in a manner that will help us Propel that growth Beyond this period of Time how could these changes in Evolutions become something that are internalized in a manner that they're lasting that they endure and maybe in reflecting on that if there's a particular Fila experience that maybe you had in your life that itself made an impression itself I feel that experience maybe you were looking for it maybe it just happened because of circumstance but it's something that that stands out as as a Transcendent moment of connection that you had with a Karishma who in the context of FILA but more so than just something that just kind of lives in Nostalgia or like remember when that happened it was something transformative it was something that that changed and shifted your approach your attitude your disposition towards Fila and it echoes even in the way in which you approached Fila today how do we harness these experiences of elevated spirituality in a way that they can be internalized so that they become part of who we are and we can take them with us let's not wait for shmini at Saras and silkas Torah to discuss how to take it with us as we're doing it right now what could we be doing to make sure that this is part of our avoda this is part of our our growth in a way that is lasting uh Rabbi Weinberger we'll start with with you so I'm just going to go back for a minute to the beginning uh really what my friend of Goldberg was talking about he didn't use the word but I will use the word that he was but he was just what he was talking about is his about it does and his voted those his about this is something which is not uh something it's not something of every nachmann from breast has discovered this is a there's a whole parrot called pericardus at the end of this because about himself in the third The person talks about the the life of of the of the Miss Bode and his Buddhist his boat this in my opinion it's not my opinion what I understand learning from the races from the clay Jacob from from many many many many sadiqam long before long before webinar that um again going back to whatever Goldberg was saying at the beginning is that I believe that the only way to to carry this behematso into into the rest of the year is is uh through that belief that Hashem is not confined to a particular time into a particular building or a particular words in the city davny began long before there was such a thing as formalized Feeler and and um and by by understanding by learning what his body this is and and actually um becoming a part of the world we besides that we have a khaburra on the whole subject of isabardas um we've done in the past and hopefully we're going to be doing shortly at the um diving to take a trip to a quiet place with uh with it with kevra and to go to a Scenic nice place and I write this spread out and having learned a little bit the say the of of his brothers and how to begin to connect to his about this that that bihimotso is not just is not just a service is something with davening becomes uh it becomes becomes something that that I I I'm excited about that I look forward to that's that's something that's very much a part of of of my of my life trila means to be bad enough Tulia that's what I'm talking about it means to be attached it means to bear like a sealed to be wound together to be bound together but if a person Waits again coming back of Goldberg said the beginning of a person just has those times of the of the day or the time or the time uh times of the week when it's when it goes to shul Davin then it's it's not going to it usually doesn't carry over well and it doesn't translate well into those day-to-day life so Interiors how to make this time of the year into something real learn the Arts study of the art and that's not the time to do this and I can give you many kinds of many books Hebrew English French Russian Yiddish whatever you like Spanish to read a guided manuals help how to develop this day by day dialogue with a shema's bar and it is a dialogue it's two ways I'm not going to explain that now but to speak to them and to hear from him not abascal or Noah but in the way that Hashem speaks to us how to have this constant to live in a relationship with Hashem is a portal that brings us into something uh much higher uh to make into something which is real into into a heifers of course on a very practical level uh somebody was just telling me yesterday one of my children I was very proud of them was telling me is that you know he decided last year that from now this entire year he's going to bench inside and he's going to say creation inside not not by heart half asleep or rushing through to to and he and he brought him he was very proud because we were talking around the table about what did you what what did you accomplish what do you feel you accomplished this year and I was very proud of him even though he's a he's a father of children's radio and his Isaac ready a grown man but I was very proud because he carried it through the entire year and I said because you took something out of Russian in that in that uh and you made it to something which is you accepted upon yourself and you and you lived with it in response to the question I'm really going too long I'm sorry because I know it's late but in response to the question of that transformative or transforming experience of trila uh but I'm going to tell you now probably is not going to resonate with a lot of people and I'm I apologize in advance because it maybe it's not going to be understood as a positive thing but it definitely I live with it every moment of my life and every day I I go back to it my parents were my parents so my mother she's about my father Holocaust Survivors they were in concentration camp and when and when I was uh 13 years old we lived in art Israel we went on Alia and usually Diamond initially but we lived in Italian with a lot of Hungarian survivors and that's where we lived and we usually dived in a stable but there was a certain cousin that was coming to town and my father wanted a Daven Yom Kippur in the big shul in Italian I don't remember the name of the I just remember that he was a Genji with long long red beard and had a booming voice and and I couldn't wait to get out of there that's all I remember just to get out and and my father and and like the other you know the the survivors they were the old Jews they were just like mohammish living with this house and it was unbelievable to watch I enjoyed watching my father but I wasn't enjoying the darling because that's just not my thing I I get it it's great but it's not my thing still like what we're saying everybody has their thing that was my thing so so uh it came time for yessica and I and I left sure and uh I was standing outside there was a little garden by the digital in a Tanya and I was standing outside with some of the kids and this is this is 1970. so it's not so long after the war and it was very soon after The Six Day War and the husband again yes and it Unleashed a torrential cry a a a screaming and crying every single person there that was left for yusuke it was still fresh in their memories and their minds what happened and who they lost either in the Holocaust during The Six Day War or 48 whatever it was but it was something I ran away I just started to run away from it but ever since then I've been running towards it and it's not because of the uh of the Holocaust of of the Six Day War or the war of independence it's because of the of the sense that I got that I felt that here we have a basement a huge School filled with Jews who had every reason in the world not to come to just turn away to walk away but they wanted to cry out to Hashem with that feeling that they had with that loss with that memory they wanted to connect Hashem they wanted to yell to try to complain to beg whatever they wanted to do but it's with we're not leaving you we're staying with you I think that changed my whole life I I know it sounds like a little bit scary and negative but it's not it's being there with Hashem because you're the one to turn to ashburton thank you so much for my wine Burger Robert Goldberg so I think one of the things that we can do is a relationship all relationships in life have the danger and risk of growing stale institution gives the reason in order to create a freshness and a newness in his righteous relationships need that I recently saw that when the penne Menachem passed through and the guerrabba was Nifty they found 200 suduram that certainly he used all the different fortune on the sitter were enhancing his davening he had the two hundreds to Durham because of the commentators in them but he also had them because he was rotating his sodorum and to get to the number 200 that's pretty frequently rotating a new sitter something can grow old it can get stale it can get wrote and and making something new as simple as a new sitter we get used to where we think we're going to see something on a page and is it large or is it small font and just getting a new sitter can create a new excitement and a new relationship with the text of that sitter and I think one thing that we can take out of this is a promise and a pledge to not let it go old that if it starts to feel stale to introduce something new to open a safer people forget the sitter is also a safer they say what are you learning mission the sitter is also safer you're allowed to learn the sitter as a safer and that will it shouldn't just be a leemwood it's a Lima dominas to be to to Daven differently but we should make a pledge behemat so when we feel this moment of connection and passion and romance to make a promise and a pledge that we won't let it go still we'll get a new sitter before it before it can become I want to follow up on what Maury verabi said and so much everything I'm sharing now I learned from a romberger including that in ello we did a his brother this trip to the beach we've done it now every year taking cover we learn a piece of knock when we spread out along the beach at night people said it changed their life all of it I owe to you really I learned I learned from you but but maybe there's also a step between the person who's not ready yet for his vote this is hard it's very hard it's hard 60 seconds of his both of this could feel like three hours is it over even I was leading this at the beach I was looking around can I go yet are they done I'm done at this day until others we're done it's hard it's very hard but there's a step in between just davening from the sitter and the nachman's writings to spend an hour a day in his birthday and that is the whole day so what does that mean you can't be in there you got to go to work you got to take care of your kids you got responsibilities you have personal needs a champion how could you be misspell or colion culo I don't remember what I saw thought but I think it's so so true and I think it should inform and Inspire every day of our life our whole day should be an ongoing Fila not not necessarily even Justice about this but meaning you're driving carpool let it go smoothly let him I have green lights let there not be an accident to keep it on the seat belt let it pick up every kid you're walking into the boardroom or the operating room or you're walking into the the negotiating room wherever you're going in life a little feeling before because I know before we came on there because give me something intelligent to say I can't believe you got me on this uh panel Curtis barkel please let me say something intelligent afterwards Hashem that went smoothly the technology the storm going on around it didn't cut out the smallest littlest that's how when you get into the shoe and open the sitter you're already in the middle of the conversation revanburger described that his mother is always having that his palacolium culo there are countless things in our lives that only when they stopped do we realize how much we took it for granted or for a tiny two seconds feeler before a two second or Daw after but the whole day then is a conversation let this go smoothly that's what Felix are Derek is before you take off why can't it also be every car ride let us get there safe and sound why can't it be every every business conversation let me say the right things let me negotiate correctly let me come to the right conclusion no it means that wherever I am I turned it into the house of Hashem I'm in that field wherever I go wherever I go I'm offering at Fila before I go in that it goes smoothly that I work that it beat the right thing so I think that uh the best thing is to is to be in that conversation is to be working on that Moon that Vegas that we talk on to be doing all the work outside the shows when you get inside the shoe when you open that sitter do all the work outside the center when you open the sitter it'll flow more more freely this may sound trite or cliche or you won't even believe me but I would say among my most inspiring feelings that ever had with the last two days whatever's going on in our sure life whatever's going on among dear you did nephesh dear friends and the heartfelt feelers of asking for Mama's foreign but but I also this year I alluded to it several times I wrote down this card not only my family's names but I actually contacted people I have names of column that we dive in for in the shul that we print in our bulletin but I thought of people and I said could you tell me your name I want to include you in my feelings first of all this wasn't my intent but what it did to them that someone was thinking of them and said could I have your name I know you're looking for a off I know you're trying to have a child I know you're going through a hard time could you give me your name I want I want to have it in my mocks I want to be thinking about you instead of my mind wandering and as I'm lost in the niggan of that I want to see those names that card was present next to my master on the Stander the whole davening and I can tell you it changed my darling and I'm telling you that not as the young people would say to flex I'm telling it because there's still time Yom Kippur there's still time kolnidre and chakra is write down names people English write down their names with their mother's name Hebrew look at it let it be next to your mercy and Max or come alive let it not just be the words and turning the pages make a personal think about people understand what is at stake and what we're fighting for understand that Fila is not this is not it's real it has Cosmic implications and and this year everything that happened this year was the result of last year's Russian last year's like a pregnancy everything is is born in the pregnancy in the conception the whole year comes from these 10 days and up to Yom Kippur it says this is not just like rabbinic manipulation and exploitation it's legit this is real where we're impacting the cosmos of a year ahead that we can't even anticipate or don't even know that we should take advantage we should think we should write down those names the more personal the more real it is the more of an impact it will have not just this is wherever we are at work and a gym in the supermarket in our home in the dining room the living room the homework room we should send our children off to school I I I'll end with this I'm sorry I'm going on I had a family minute when I was a child my father would send us off to school and we had a test he would give us a raw noodle and on our desk at school as we took the test was a raw Noodle and he said it was a reminder use your noodle don't just try to fly through the test and turn it in go over your question I give my kids a Rondo they have a test again it's fine with some of my father they don't just give the raw noodle you get to know you say don't forget to ask Hashem to do well on your test today that that's it's real they're davening now just went from I was at davening and they were yelling at paying attention to my sitter was my finger on the right place too oh yeah I could ask him to do well on my test I need help doing well on my test or the soccer game after school or whatever it is that they care about to make it to make it real and vibrant and dynamic and Alive it won't only be Behemoth so but he will be be mad so all year long wherever we are thank you Robert Goldberg Rabbi Hower we're going to ask you to uh close out our program and in doing so also extend our Occurrence at 12 to the OU for making first of all for bringing uh this group together uh in a manner that certainly I'm sure uplifted many of those if not all of those who joined us this afternoon but really for positioning TV law at the Forefront of the Orthodox Union's efforts in inspiring the community the larger Jewish Community we invite everyone to continue to benefit from the resources that were developed under that vision shiram from both men and from women uhurim that really spanned many different levels many different contexts and different styles and uh to really join us in our quest to continue growing through our tefila and with that Rabbi Hower if you could please share your thoughts thank you thank you thank you thank you very Glasser and thank you immensely to Weinberger of Goldberg this has been a I I felt tremendous tremendous inspiration from this from this hour and uh and uh you know generally how quality still is always trying to do better in this realm is something which inspires each and every one of us uh each and every one of us wherever we sit I would like if possible to share three points in closing one is the following starting from leaving shul yesterday or the first day of Rosh Hashanah to walking walking home and bumping into the people from other places to phone calls with friends and family Mata Shoppers to people I bumped into this morning you know here here in the office you ask people it's like how was davening and the most common word that people use is beautiful when you ask people how that he was on Rosh Hashanah they say it was beautiful he asked people how that he wasn't in Kipper they say it was beautiful now on a Tuesday Morning in February I would venture to say that if I stood even in the parking lot of ishqadish and I asked people on the way out how was davening I don't know if one person would say that that means it was beautiful they might say it was good pace you know it didn't it wasn't too fast beautiful and how about Shabbos so I think that one thing that we should take from the MMA room is that we should make a goal that the answer to the question how was davening beautiful should be more frequent and I know that beautiful is not a deep word it's not it was I mean the business well intense and so on and so forth but I think that that's a very that's Fila was uplifting it was meaningful everybody according to that their level is beautiful I think it's a it's a Concrete goal for us in our lives in our birthday knesses let that be a more frequent reply one thing the second thing I I didn't come on as Cloud planning to say this I don't think I've ever said it to anybody in my life I I I have this I gotten for the Ahmed the first field of young uh of Russia you know mariv Rosh Hashanah the first night I still do it and um and I I before I say the first you know I look up and I see in front of me the white paragus and then I looked down at the sitter that white paragus does something and really it's all around you on your own it's the white Kittles it's people come to shulaim if maybe a regular Shabbos maybe it's not perfect but there's there's a an atmosphere a base knesses a beautiful shul as an atmosphere the the the the the white the additions I think there was an atmosphere and you know excuse me but I know that the piazzetsner writes extensively and others capturing picturing and governing and the only room we employ that we everybody employs that the atmosphere the environment is such that the images that are in front of our physical eyes help and we need to use we need to realize how valuable it is both in the environments that we chose to Daven in during the year and in the imagined things so to speak not imagined as the wrong word but the things that we picture in front of our eyes Hashem blessed are you Hashem picture you're standing you're speaking and the second person or not speaking like us speaking the third person Tara bayam as if they're not in front of us as if we're speaking to somebody who's not there we speak to the roboticism and direct second person pick sure picture it you know brother from you spoke a couple of times about the card with the names which is very meaningful I want to tell you something which blew me away I saw it and I melted and I still melt when I think about it I once picked up someone's Master a woman's Mercer and don't ask me how and I opened it and in the back cover there was a picture of her family and in the inside flap was a picture of her parents who were no longer the Allah and you know the the person says she says he was standing over here she was standing over there you know the radaxes and he learns this in a few places in in the VM that he looked at his wife his wife who was struggling with this with this difficulty of being Barren at this time and he looked at her and he doesn't so there's there's a visualization of the Ravenna slide on the white parishes and imagine the Russian and then there's thinking about what you're deafening about we want to we're worrying about the people in in South Florida which we should be we should be and like we can pause and picture you know what is it hunkered down and in in everything and everything that we've done for those pictures are beautiful it's it's it's it's something which helps and yeah if we're teaching our children how to deafen you know like about picture it in your mind pictured in your mind and and and ask for it the last thing that I would say and I guess it's really the would be I guess the closing for this discussion there's something about working on davening there's like nothing like it you know when you're working on your davening even a little bit it improves your davening and there's another thing which is that it stops being effective as soon as you stop working you know we could work a whole hello and we do like everybody you know so sometimes more sometimes less but we take the happening way more seriously now and it has an impact our davening it's this is the davening that sets the bar for the whole year but then what happens so what separates is you know Dr Weinberger says that they're on the books that they're gonna go after yantev they already have on the schedule they're going to be doing some things and and and you know that's all we have to do we we can't imagine we can maintain the intensity of young and Iran for 12 months or 13 months of the of the year but we can draw from it that there's a real phone Sarah Agra and I don't mean the word Tsar in terms of Anguish but I mean in terms of investment if we invest something in it there's such a great yield there's such a great yield and everybody wants to get more put more into their darling and get more out of their Daphne so something something that she aren't feeling that my Weinberger has all the time and and feeling I'm a Disney Hashem the the WhatsApp of davening that Rabbi Goldberg has just going through the city the fact that somebody if we together could create a new normal in call Israel and The New Normal kalisrael just like just like I don't know whatever the other normal lives like a normal including soil was that everybody spends a little bit of time each day maybe even each week just thinking about davening not during davening but simply just think about having to do something work learn something about that happening how elevating that would be thank you so much thank you so much thank you everyone who joined us uh thank you rev Weinberger thank you Rabbi Goldberg thank you Robert Howard it was a pleasure and we want to wish the entire Community everyone should have a beautiful beautiful Davin all right