Will Israel’s Bold New Gaza Plan Change Everything?: Land of Israel Guys Podcast

I mean, we're seeing right now, God is creating a situation where people get to decide for themselves which side they are going to stand on, light or darkness. That's what's happening. >> All of us right now are under attack and Israel just happens to be on the front lines. And if the world doesn't wake up soon, they're going to wake up with Hamas in their backyard. >> I think a lot of this is happening in order to wake us up to who we are and what our story is. So why why are we talking about occupying Gaza, liberating Gaza, and declaring sovereignty over the biblical homeland of Gaza within the nation of Israel? That's it. Welcome to the Israel guys, where we believe that in a world of anti-Israel propaganda and Jew hatred, you should always be connected to the land and to the people of Israel. So happy to be back all together with week, Rabbi Jeremy Gimpel, Ari Bramitz, Rabbi Ari Bramitz, Joshua Waller. Uh good to be with you guys. Make sure you're subscribed. Make sure you don't miss out. The channel is growing and expanding. We're happy to be with you every single week. So much happening as always. It's never a dull moment, never a dull week in the Middle East. Um, and there is just, you know, now there's speculation now. Is Israel going to occupy Gaza? Whatever that means, right? Liberate Gaza. And, uh, yeah, I think we should start there. There there's uh we're going to get into more later on including the high third highest leader in America visiting the West Bank, the uh Judea and Samaria. And I mean that's something that cannot be ignored. Um and so much more. But I think we should start with this um place because according to the Jerusalem Post, the security cabinet in Israel is said to meet today. So by the time you guys watch this, there may be a decision. You can watch the news. uh watch out for breaking headlines, but to meet today and they're expected to approve some sort of plan that include occupying new portions of the enclave. Uh all right, you were talking about before we started recording about how you feel like sometimes the language that is said by the either by the government or by just Israeli media kind of um affirms the narrative, the anti-Israel narrative. Do you want to talk about >> spoon feeding it to the enemies of Israel? You know, I've always been a stickler to almost a crazy degree when it comes to words, but I think words, this is a battle, a war of ideas that we're fighting. It's a spiritual war. And the words that we use are of critical importance. You can surrender the entire war by just saying Palestinians, right? What is Palestinians? Where is Palestine? If you're saying they're Palestinians, then there's a Palestine. What is this nation of Palestine that these indigenous people have come from? You're already throwing in the white flag. And so for them to say about Gaza, which is actually historically and biblically belongs to the nation of Israel, we uh liberated it in a defensive war. And uh and not only that, we ethnically transferred out Jews, an entire 8,000 Jews that were in the Gushkif ethnically to hand it to them. And now we're hearing from all the world that we allowed October 7th to happen as a pretext so we could take it back. We gave it to them. Like the whole thing is so absurd. Why can't we just understand the truth of our narrative? When people say Ari, you know, you're from Texas. I'm not from Texas. I was born in Texas because of the destruction of the temple and the exile of the Jewish people around the world. I was born there, but I'm from Judea. if we don't know who we are and what our story is. And I think a lot of this is happening in order to wake us up to who we are and what our story is. So why why are we talking about occupying Gaza, liberating Gaza, and declaring sovereignty over the biblical homeland of Gaza within the nation of Israel? >> Well, I think that's the real problem is that the government isn't saying that. They're not saying we're now going to annex parts of Gaza. We're going to declare sovereignty over parts of Gaza. We're going to restore Israeli sovereignty. >> Describing occupation. Yeah. They're saying we're just going to go there, conquer it all, and we don't really know what we're going to do there. We're just going to occupy it. We're just going to be there. And that's really >> So the narrative war we're talking about here is is a war where it seems like the the the narrative is being defined by places like Alazer or or it's the leftest of the leftist, the most jihadic kind of places where people are getting their ideology from these absolute uh haters of Israel. Um it seems like when you use words or you mentioned the occupied or the occupation or the illegal settlements or and the list could go on, West Bank. These are the mainstay words that have been used all throughout this war in Gaza uh and have been used really for the last 50 60 years even even since uh 1967 and before when the Palestinian Liberation Movement was started in 1964. They began not a campaign of truth and and of of factual uh content and truth. It was a a complete ideological battle to change the narrative and they really have been very successful. You got to give it to them. They have been very very successful. >> Well, now it's not just the woke left which says that all nationalism is bad. Well, except for the Palestinian nationalism that we really have to support. It's also now from the woke right that says that like nationalism is great >> except for that country Israel. It's like it's coming from both sides now and the only way to combat it is with truth. It's just by sticking to the truth because ultimately the truth will emerge because that truth is reality. And if we don't hold by the truth and speak the truth and use the correct language, we've already lost. It's amazing how you can just flip everything on its head. You know, the biggest colonization in the world right now is probably the Islamic one that's going across the world and taking over cities and states and countries. Uh look at France, for example, completely being overrun by jihadists, right? The religion. But yet, that's not the story you're hearing. you're hearing about this country Israel that's coming back to its ancient roots and coming when when uh speaker Mike Johnson we'll talk about it more later but this is just hysterical to me that when he visits the ancient town of Shilo Shiloh the the Al Jazzer quote is Johnson becomes the highest ranking US official to visit the illegal settlement in the occupied Palestinian territory who's the colonizer who's the occupier who's the they've literally flipped the whole thing on it head the biggest occupation in the entire world. >> Well, the funny thing is a lot of the Arab towns, the names in Arabic are like a derivative of the original Jewish town that was there. >> Yeah. But you >> and that's actually archaeologist say like that's how you even know that there was a Jewish town there is because the Arab town that was built later was named after the original Jewish town. But you got to give it to Speaker Johnson going she look amazing and the fact that it has so obviously even in the Alazer headlines it just says illegal Jew. They can't say where it was because that just so discredits them. If you say Speaker Johnson went to Shiloh where the tabernacle rested for 369 years and Jewish presence has been consistent throughout the entire Jewish history for thousands of years. Well, but that just doesn't work with the argument very well. This that's really a a needle in a balloon of their whole uh ideology this whole uh figment of this creation that they have infused this this really a a cancerous ideology to the whole world that is bent on demonizing and delegitimizing the whole Zionist incredible prophesied biblical movement of Jews coming back into the land. And I think it's also a demand, a divine call for character. >> Yeah. >> Really to determine, are you Abrahamic? Abraham was a Hebrew and Eive. He stood on one side of the rest of the world on the other. You know, I think Israel, we're looking around right now at countries and nations that once we really did think were maybe not the greatest of friends, but at least allies on a on a political front, and they're turning against us and saying that they're going to vote for a Palestinian state in the United Nations this coming September. And we're like, a vote for a Palestinian state is a vote for the destruction of Israel. Period. End of story. And now all of these friends and allies are turning against us. And there's this small tiny remnant that is still standing with us, that is standing true, that is standing resolute, that is standing stronger than ever. You guys are, I think, the leaders of this movement of the or one of the leaders of the movement of the remnant of the nations. But it's not just standing with us, but also ideologically, you have to be willing to stand against what the whole world is saying. You know, you watch CNN, they always use that argument. Yeah, but the majority there were 72 Israeli officers that came together and there's always this numbers thing. Everybody is saying the international community is saying what about truth, >> right? >> You know, it's okay if the whole world is saying that. If it's not true, it's not true. We're going to speak with character and integrity and that's what's being demanded of us. >> What's amazing is that in this week's Torah portion, it literally says God chose Israel not because we are the most of all nations, but because we're the fewest and smallest of all nations. And so what's lining up right now is that all of the nations are lining up against Israel. And there will be a small David against a massive Goliath. And that's really what's unfolding before our very eyes. And the truth will set us free as long as we stay true to what we know is true. The truth will set us free. >> Yeah. I'll tell you, I I was just before the show, I came in as I offended. I'm like, "Hey guys, look at this Candace Owens video. Look at this Tucker Carlson video." And look what you say. >> You're not supposed to say those names anymore, >> right? Well, that's that's what you were saying, but Luke, what was your argument? >> Um, well, well, I'm like I think like all of us, I'm sick and tired of it, but I'm also a little bit like it's hard to not see what like the latest >> it's hard to not but no, but you said that and I was like something resonated in me that, you know, this week's Torah portion, we do believe that the Torah portion is a prism, a a light into what's happening in our lives on personal and national levels. And Moses stood there in on in the on the mountains of Moab gazing yearningly into the land. And he wasn't allowed to enter the land, but he had this deep desire. And so why the one of the reasons the sages give that he wasn't able to enter the land is because whatever Moses touched was eternal. >> And if he was the one to go into the land and build the temple, it would have never been able to be destroyed. And part of the journey we needed to go through as the Israelites throughout history was to have our temple destroyed, be exiled around the world. So he couldn't be that one. But that yearning in his heart, that was eternal. That yearning has been passed on. And we need to be kindling that. We need to be shining a light of beauty and inspiration and truth and yearning. And those that have that antenna, that radar that picks up on truth will be lit up by that. It's not up to us to determine if numbers. It's not about numbers. >> We'll be back with the rest of the podcast in a second. But first, I want to give you something practical that you can do to support the land and the people of Israel. 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I think I think that's why every week like we try because it's so easy like you could we could just sit here and talk for three hours about the horrible things that are happening and the lies and the propaganda but like every week we make a concerted effort to bring the positivity to bring the encouragement to bring the Torah portions to bring the u what God's doing in the land of Israel and that and we have to do that um because like you're saying that like we have to focus on the eternal and God's doing amazing things in the land of Israel and We can't ignore it. We have to open our eyes or or else we're like the spies and we cannot, you know, we can't believe the lies of the spies. >> And that's why we're talking about Gaza cuz we we see a really great in story there. >> Oh yeah. Well, I want to get back to the before we get too deep, I want to get back to just like what what is happening right now there. Um, so let me just read a couple of quotes for you. Um, JP is reporting that the plan that the security cabinet is probably voting on today involves around five IDF divisions. They're saying it'll last approximately 5 months. Um >> what this occupation >> focused on. So J post saying is focused or or I can't remember maybe it's times of Israel is focused on Gaza city, central Israel. The Arabs in Gaza would be pushed toward the south. Um another quote from JNS is saying Netanyahu is uh considering ordering the IDF to occupy the entire Gaza territory up from the roughly 3/4ers it currently controls. Um, so a lot of questions as to what actually will happen, what will be approved. Um, Times Visro is quoting, I think it's a US representative that was visiting saying Netanyahu told him he has no interest in a long-term stay in Gaza. I'm going to try and avoid using this word occupation even though that's what everybody is saying. >> Even the prime minister himself used the word, >> right? Yeah. But um, so not clear exactly what's going on. Uh are you were talking about uh the chief of staff, General Aal Zamir. They're saying he is very opposed to a plan to expanding operations in Gaza, but they're saying he's not going to resign over this. >> Right. I I didn't want to personally by name call out Jeremy for his overwhelming optimism when Zamir became, you know, the the head of the IDF because Jeremy, he said, he put a wonderful letter in the Western Wall. And we're so wanting to finally have leaders that see the truth, the historical greater picture of what's really happening here, who have courage and character and and willingness to do what needs to be done for the nation of Israel. And so he was optimistic. Jeremy, you were optimistic when you saw the letter he put on the co. >> I was optimistic and I was wrong. The fact that Israel has become so dysfunctional. Imagine if President Trump and the American government were to say, "It's time to attack Iran." And the chief of staff would be like, "Nope, we're not doing it." >> It sounded like a coup. It's a coup. >> What example is that setting for every other soldier in the IDF? It's like, "Well, if I don't want to do it, then I'll just refuse orders." The chief of staff of IDF is refusing orders to obey the government. It's really insane. And the people that say Israel runs the world. Israel can't run itself right now. There's so much internal conflict right now. And what that's done is also it's divided the nation. I mean the nation half of them will stand with the army of the chief of staff is saying the army shouldn't do it. Half of them will stand with the government. And it's really creating quite chaos. And I find it remarkable that 20 years ago almost to the day Israel disengaged from Gaza. And now 20 years later, we see what a disastrous mistake it was to give up the land of Israel to any other nation. And now 20 years later, we're being called to conquer Gaza, to liberate Gaza, to go in again. And it's so dangerous apparently that the chief of staff is saying, "I'm out. No thank you." >> Yeah. You know, I'll tell you, Israel's my feeling when you said that. I was like, "Maybe Jeremy's right. I don't think so. Why did I not think so?" Because Israel's deep state makes America's deep state look shallow. Really? It's It's >> I always thought it was the other way around. >> Oh, no. You think it's deep? Yeah. Israel's deep state goes >> No, but I think it's easier to fix this one. >> Well, there's less people without getting too involved in the details of it. Israel's deep state goes back to biblical times. Okay. It really does. It goes back to like the Arav in the Exodus. And I'm not saying who's an Arav and who's not, and I'm not getting into that whole thing. You might have to explain what an Arav is. >> Arav. Well, that's why I didn't want to get into the whole thing, >> but now you said it. >> But let's just put it. There is a an ideological subset within the nation of Israel that is constantly seeking and yearning for Israel to be a state like all other to be uh loved by the world and their that is their deepest uh motivational reason of everything that they do. which is why we have United Nations representatives from Israel that feel like they're more representing the United Nations to Israel than representing Israel to the United Nations. That's the the Supreme Court of Israel. It just yearning for the legitimization, the legitimacy the uh uh in the eyes of the International Criminal Court. Why do you think they're always cooperating with that? Because they're so titilated and excited. But why don't they why doesn't Israel leave the United Nations and see what the farce and the joke the United Nations is? Why don't we leave? because there's this group in the deep state that needs this international recognition that wants to put their faith in the nations of the world rather than in in the word of God. And so that's a deeper part of the >> You say that or go ahead. >> No, I'm just saying you brought up the United Nations. What's happening in the United Nations now is just absolutely atrocious. First of all, they're blaming Israel for starving the Gazins. And they just now came out with the UN report saying that 88% of its trucks that go into Gaza have been looted by the kamas. 88%. So who is starving the Gazins? the Hamas obviously are, but now so much damage has been done over the last few weeks where Israel is starving, Israel is starving, and now it's just proven to be absolutely false. And at the same time, it's just remarkable that the brother of Evatar Davided, a hostage in Gaza, who was filmed like a skeleton digging his own grave on the 9th of A, like the hutbah of the kamas that released that video that was brought before the United Nations Security Council. And here you actually see targeted purposeful starvation and the security council did nothing. They didn't even condemn the kamas. >> Yeah, I actually heard that a take on it that why did is why did kamas release that on the 9th of A release that in the backdrop of these accusations against Israel to show their ideological domination of the world >> that they can release this and there will not be a word said. It won't be picked up by the mainstream media. it won't be used magazine and the New York Times be totally ignored and it's just like so demoralizing to Jews and to Israel like are we really on our own here in the world of in this move international movement of such vitrial and and hate that they're willfully blinding themselves to what's really happening here to pile on Israel. It's like there's vultures circling the Jewish state, smelling blood, seeing that we're all alone and just going in, going in at one after the other. That's what it feels like here. >> Well, I'll tell you, Prime Minister Netanyahu just came out with, I thought, quite a remarkable video exactly about the power of lies against Israel and how old it is. Really, you should watch this. >> Were preceded by horrible vilifications. The lies that were leveled against the Jews spread around the globe. We were poisoning the wells. We were carriers of disease. We slaughtered Christian children in order to drink their blood. And this spread from country to country and created massacre after massacre, culminating in the worst massacre of them all, the Holocaust, in which 6 million innocent Jews were led to the slaughter. Today, the Jewish state is facing similar vilifications. They lie about us. They say that we're deliberately starving Palestinian children. That's a bare-faced lie. Since the beginning of the war, we have let in almost 2 million tons of food. 2 millions tons of food for Palestinian civilians, Palestinian children. That's been our policy. I mean, what you see there is that there is an ancient hatred that crosses denominations, crosses religions, and we're just living through the newest version of the hatred right now. And that really is the question. A war against the Jew in some ways is really a war against God. And that's what we're saying. That's why it's coming from the woke left and that's why it's coming from the woke right. Ultimately, it's actually an attack on God. And these lies and these blood liels, they're just spreading everywhere. Now the UN's coming back saying, "Oh, by the way, what we've said that's been spread around the world now for the last few weeks. Oh, that was a mistake. Whoops. And no one picked that up, of course." >> Well, nobody does. The BB between the BBC and all of the main leaders of information around the world, all are broadcasting these images and and and trying to convince the world of something. And then the little blip, you know, 3 weeks later, oh, sorry, we had that wrong. Of course, that doesn't make the wave. Everybody's already been convinced that Israel is is a, you know, to quote some people that we're not going to say their names, demonic state. No, they've convinced the world of this reality that they think exists. They're painting a picture that doesn't exist. >> What I've noticed, too, is the main players that are touting demonization of Israel and the ones that have millions and millions of views, they don't come here. Like, they literally refuse to come to Israel to go to Gaza. They go to the border. They And also, they don't interview. I've I've seen none of these people interviewing Israeli soldiers or anybody like closely connected to what's actually going on. I want to >> even if they did come here, by the way, Luke, I'm not sure that that would matter. You know, when you have what you deeply believe from a theological foundational perspective, you see what you you see what you want to see. You hear what you want. Yeah. If you if you have your eyes wide open, you can see the beauty of the land of Israel. But if you come here with a predetermined hatred, then you can also like it's a lens. You can see the land through that as well. I want to build off what Jeremy was talking about for a second just before we move on from the topic of Gaza. um 88% of uh the UN's aid has been looted. That that just to make that even a little more crazy, in the month of June, 1,043 of their aid trucks were looted. 47 made it to the to the correct destination. So, >> who's the bad guys? Real quick, >> they're failing. >> Israel's bad. And the DH, what is it called? The DHL. What is that? GHF. GHF. The guys, the humanitarian foundation. Okay. So now the UN now the UN is calling for the GHF to be shut down. Yeah. Because they're whatever participating in the genocide starvation of Gaza. How? Let's give their numbers. The the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation has distributed 1,164,240 [Music] meals in Gaza yesterday. Okay. How many people are in Gaza? 2 million. That means they're like already after like a month of operating, they're reaching more than half the just by themselves. And they're not the only they're not the only people like now now there's aid being dropped from the sky. You have the UN attempting like just them by themselves distributing 1.2 million meals a day. To date they've delivered 109 million meals. That's just since May 26. And their food is reaching the intended destination and it's not being looted by Hamas. I read a statistic that Hamas has made $500 million off of reselling the aid that they're stealing from the UN and other groups. Is there any other war in the world where two countries are at war, two sides are at war, and one side is feeding the enemy country? >> That's exactly the question every being demonized for it. You know, there's one of these the hostages that was actually with Aviatar Davidid in that exact tunnel. He said, "I was there for 500 days with him. I know exactly what's going on. Right to the back left there's a steel door that the kamas are in that they are eating fish and meat and fruits and vegetables and plenty abundance that they're eating in front of Aviatar Davidid. And he was of course forced to say in his video they're giving me whatever they can. But of course they have a a barrel to his head forcing him to dig his own grave. And that's the the type of, you know, it says in the book of Amos, you who turn justice into wormwood and cast righteousness to the ground, who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter. That is literally I can't think of a time in my adult life where evil is being positioned as good in such a way that is it's impossible. It's difficult for any rational, intellectually honest person to see the jihad of October 7th and the murder and the rape and the torture. I just saw a minute of one of the videos from October 7th from the n on the 9th of Av just to allow myself to get back in there. And they're now trying to reward them with a state at the expense of Israel that's gone to greater lengths. I mean, we're seeing right now, God is creating a situation where people get to decide for themselves which side they're going to stand on. Light or darkness. That's what's happening. You know, I used to think growing up that what could be more evil than Nazis. Like that was to me that was like the greatest manifestation of evil on earth. But Nazis, they tried to hide their atrocities. They tried to hide their murdering Jews. and the kamas are making propaganda videos of Jews digging their own graves and starving in tunnels. It's like a higher, more refined level of evil. And I just saw this video of these kamas terrorists saying, "Yeah, we're going after the Jews, but then we're going to go after the Christians. It's a matter of us to take over the entire world." Watch this. for so what the world doesn't see is that for whatever reason Jews and Christians for some reason are being put right now in the same boat. They're not saying we're going to attack every Hindu, we're attacking every Buddhist. It's specifically targeting Jews and Christians. That's a wakeup call. You know, you realize with the Western world, every country in America, Canada, all of Europe, all of us right now are under attack. And Israel just happens to be on the front lines. And if the world doesn't wake up soon, they're going to wake up with Hamas in their backyard. Let me ask you guys as Christians, is there anything at all that you have seen that has caused you pause? And the reason I ask this is because I can't help but get out of my I can't get out of my mind. Ambassador Huckabe who is such a stalwart unwavering friend of Israel and the Jewish people. And he even bought into it and said and turned against Israel for like a good 10 minutes there if you remember about the church being burned down and about the visas. And I'm like, wow, if he is even wavering here, clearly there is some sort of spiritual force that is a compulsion that is alluring, that is enticing even for the friends of Israel >> to turn against us. >> Well, I think a good example is the number of pastors who are now coming out publicly. I mean, you showed us another video right before we started recording. >> Listen to what this one said. >> Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. You got to bless Israel or God won't bless you. Now, here's the thing. Is the modern day nation of Israel is not a lucky rabbit's foot. As long as you rub it, God will be good to you. It doesn't work that way. But not only that, the Bible simply does not say that at all. The Bible does not say anywhere in the Bible to bless Israel. Yet, especially the modern-day nation of Israel. We had some visitors just last week that were down here for vacation. And that was one of their concerns that the church that they're in is teaching political Zionism and they're telling Christians that we have to support war in Iran and they're teaching hatred as a commandment of man. >> But I mean, that's not the only example. There's a lot of pastors publicly preaching from their pulpits in their churches, do not support Israel. The Bible does not say to support the modern state of Israel. The Jews today are not the same Jews of the Bible. Like this, it's a dangerous new level. I used to talk, you know, we used to talk about new replacement theology, new anti-semitism. Like there's another one now. The Jews of today, the modern state of Israel is not the same Israel from the Bible. You know, the Bible does not say to support the Jews of today. It's scary. Like it's very scary that this is being preached publicly from the pulpit now and millions of Christians are following suit. >> I I I see two things here. We've got a there's a major battle. Obviously, Israel's been fighting for 2 years and and the world is at at a ruckus and there's things shifting radically. But what are these shifts causing to happen? Two things that I think are really incredible on the because of the war that brings peace. Right? This a Jewish idea that something is being rectified in the world. war is not good but it there is something that happens there's usually and it ends usually with peace if if the war finishes then it's peace right I see what's happening around the world in declaring a Palestinian state right of of the whole world's trying to create this statethood right of of uh you know exactly in opposition to what's actually happening on the ground the Jewish people are coming back they're establishing their homeland and yet the whole world's trying to to disprove and discredit and they're all but what is that doing it could be in reality driving Israel right now to actually do exactly that. Declare the state of Israel in opposition. The only thing that can hold back this massive pressure to say that the biblical heartland of Israel is now a Palestinian state. We're going to make you do it. UN Security Council. So the UN's meeting in September. So you're talking about one month from now. A bunch of nations are going I think it'll be a lot more than who I think it's five or six that have already signed up to recognize the Palestinian state. I think in another month there'll be quite a a lot more than six. Um, and if the UN General Assembly meets, obviously they they can't force Israel to have a Palestinian state. Maybe if I mean the Israel could bow to pressure like there are ways, but legal like legally speaking that it doesn't carry weight, but you're saying when this happens, it could push Israel to the point >> I'm saying Israel may need to preempt this, >> right? >> Well, I would say that Israel is really at fault. Meaning, why have we not declared sovereignty over Judea and Samaria yet? What are we waiting for? Why are we waiting two years to now liberate Gaza? Why didn't we do that on October 10th? Why didn't we conquer and make a decisive move from the very beginning? So, the world is looking around and really like what you're saying, it's forcing us to actually be who we were always meant to be. >> The second thing that I want to say is that's one obvious point that I think is pressuring pressuring Israel to make some major moves toward sovereignty. And I think there is a good possibility that we will be there by September because the only because the world is forcing it. It like they're forcing it in a backwards liel like way of of of of lies and propaganda. Israel has to act. It's in a position that it has to do something and they're going to do it. The other second thing is is it's being forced. It's like Jeremy just said, Christians around the world are having to make a decision right now. Do we stand with Israel? Do we not? It's being forced now. You can't just stand on the fence anymore. And so I think this office, >> are we gonna play your music video? >> I believe. Right. Same guy. You know, >> it's the only thing that consistently makes me cry every time I watch it. >> But it literally is a it's a it's a point. Israel's being forced into something right now. They have to make a decision. >> People around the world are being forced into something. It's it's it's a forcing of of of good and truth in Israel. That has to prevail. In order for this war to end, that has to prevail for the nations. There's a testing now just like in what's happening in Israel. There's usually a broader expression of that and that's very true what's happening now. The broader thing of this of what's happening in Israel on the on the on the mass scale is nations are also in the in this massive movement right now. They have to make a decision. The world is going nuts and they're and it's the most it's the stupidest thing you could possibly do right now on a on a physical level is I stand with that little tiny little place in Israel. I do and I don't care what the rest of the world standing smart thing to do. >> Smart. >> Talk about what's going on behind the scenes of sovereignty because you know from the surface you could say there's not support from the government of Israel for sovereignty but behind the scenes maybe there is. Last week we talked about the finance ministries investing tens of millions of dollars into the roads in Judea and Samaria. We work a lot with the farms in Judea and Samaria. And without like getting into too many details, like we've helped thousands of acres of new Jewish farms and existing farms um get, you know, stabilized and helping them build their infrastructure and stuff just in the last month or two. And what a lot of the farmers are saying is that there is support from the government uh for their farms. Um >> that's like breaking news by the way. >> Well, I think we've mentioned it before, right? But I mean the fact that there's an underground movement. >> There's really good people really good people in the government who are investing in Judea and Samaria. And then the third thing which maybe you can talk about Josh is this is historic. Mike Johnson is the highest the most senior American government official to ever step foot across the Green Line in Judian Samaria. And not only did he, you know, because you can leave the airport and you can get on Highway Five and you can drive straight into Ariel and it's pretty easy. It's a four-lane highway, right? And you can get a photo op and then go back to the airport. He did that. I mean, it wasn't just a photo op. It was very important. But then he went to Shilo, which is in the heart of Judea and Samaria. like there's no way to get there except by helicopter or by driving highway 60 >> or maybe from the Jordan Valley like Highway 90. Uh that's the only way. And not only did he go, but he met the prime minister of Israel and they had dinner in Shiloh >> and the ambassador >> and Ambassador Huckabe to to me to to me the fact that cuz we've had other officials go to Saigo Winery in the past and that's also just like a couple minute drive from Jerusalem. to to the fact that they actually went to she though is is pretty significant to me. >> Yeah. Um well to put it in Ambassador Huckabe's words, he said this is an historic moment. Like he he recognized it that this is huge. I believe just like Huckabe that we're living in historic moments and that was one of them right there. The speaker of the house Mike Johnson just on Monday we're talking about just happened. He comes to Shilo and this is uh the first ever official visit by US speaker of the house to Judea and Samaria, the ancient biblical heartland of Israel. >> People should know speaker of the house is the third in line to the president in line to >> two heartbeats away from the president. That's right. He quote this is a quote from him. He says Jude and Samaria >> I got to stop there. The speaker of the house is saying he's not using propaganda language that was created in 1960s to delegitimize the state of Israel. He's using biblical language >> which even rightwing nationalist Jews in Israel don't use because they want to be considered in the mainstream overton so they themselves don't use it and he does. >> He also didn't say anything about occupation either. >> He said the opposite. He actually said the opposite. He said this. I'll start to quote here. I just had to stop there. That's too empower. It's too powerful. He understands Israel from a biblical perspective. He's an amazing man. Judea and Samaria are the front lines of the state of Israel and must remain an integral part of it. You can't that he just said sovereignty has to happen here. We have a window right now that Israel could make history, be bold, do something decisive in Gaza, in Judea and Samaria. We have the backing of America. We have an opportunity to just do what's right. And if we miss this window, who knows what's going to come in the next election. >> We know what's going to come. We see the direction. We see the trajectory of even old school allies in America in the government. Charlie Kirk just had on his like, you know, whatever the the Gen Z and hearing the direction that they're all going in against Israel. This is if we're going to play that game of like deciding what we do and timing it based on American administrations, which I never like to begin with, but if we're going to play that game and see what awaits us, doesn't matter if it's uh Alexandria or Kaziocortez or Charlie Kirk or, you know, the vice president of the United States, it's it's not going to be ever as um easy as it is right now for us to do what we need to do. What do you I mean from an Israeli perspective like what do you guys think behind the scenes because to me when I see that cuz BB you just never know kind of where he's at. He seems like he goes back and forth his entire career. Now he's having dinner in Sheila with the speaker of the house. Like that feel that also feels significant to me. Not just the third highest power from America but the highest level in Israel. >> I've got to add to this cuz you're exactly on this. He he after his his initial quote he followed that up with even if the whole world thinks otherwise we stand >> this is Mike Johnson >> Mike Johnson that he he he followed his quote up about basically if I was to firm it up this is Jewish ancestral homeland and then he followed up even if everybody else doesn't think so we stand with you so >> it's so rare in the world that we have actual leaders where it's become almost that it's there's a conflation between the idea of being elected, you're elected to represent your constituency. Yeah. Right. And as opposed so whatever your constituency thinks, put it put the finger to the wind, hear what they're saying, and just say whatever it is they're saying like a parrot, right? As opposed to what real leadership is supposed to be where you say, "You ask me to be the leader here. You put me in charge. I'm going to do what I believe is right. And if you don't like it, then choose another leader." >> Right? And he's actually saying, "This is the truth. It doesn't matter if my constituency, if the whole world believes otherwise, this is where I stand. To me, it's really see that nowadays. >> To me, it feels like Israel's ready. I mean, not all of Israel, but like a lot of Israel is really the people of Israel. And it almost feels like the leadership is holding them back. >> I don't know. What do you What do you think, Jeremy? What is what's happening in what do you feel from Netanyahu in the highest levels of leadership in Israel in regards to like >> I think that Israel was always kind of tiptoeing between should there be two states, should there not be two states, should there be a Palestinian state, should there not be a Palestinian state and October 7th and this 2-year war has proven never give up the land of Israel. Never. It will never turn out good. What? Imagine if, god forbid, there was another Hamas country in the mountains of Samaria, in the mountains of Judea. Gaza is on the coastline on sand. It's like relatively small. It's a relatively like on the side of Israel. It would be the heartland of Israel in giant mountains and valleys. It would be impossible to go to war there. And so the vast majority of Israelis now, they would never even consider now accepting a Palestinian state. And so I feel like Netanyaho is like slowly but surely taking steps meeting with Johnson and Sheilo. It's a step in the right direction. >> And Kanessa did vote against the creation of a a unilateral with Palestinian state. >> Yeah. With a m over 100 votes for it, I think. >> Right. I I also think um Mark Zel, he works with the he's the chair of the Republicans uh overseas Israel. He he basically says in his view that and you guys know him he believes that this was a statement directly from the Trump administration >> taking it a step further to have the speaker I mean Trump could have intervened if he said that okay we don't no don't get into that no he would have had to like gone along with the president so President Trump was going along with this whole thing and their meeting in Shilo that I in his um thoughts this was a validation from President Trump himself of Jewish rights to the ancient homeland. >> So, what are we waiting for? We literally must declare sovereignty within the next year or we're going to lose this opportunity. >> Well, my thought is you only have till September before the whole world decides otherwise. >> Well, there you go. >> You got one month. I mean, Lu, the the ministers and the government all voted for it. They voted to push the Knesset to sovereignty very quickly. Can I just say something? I Because what's the opposition? I feel like this is some sort of cartoon thing that we're in some ways I feel like it's a little cartoonish. Speaker Johnson, the most sophisticated, god-honoring leader with such a when you're in, you know, when you when you're with him, you see him, he is like a giant. He's the most wellspoken person you've ever heard speak in your life. He demands respect and he says some of the most profound things in alignment with biblical and and historic just justice. He's speaking truth and on the other side you have these jokers and I don't mean to be just obviously I have a biased here but but literally this is like a cartoon moment here where this incredibly justice man speaks with such truth and then you have Alazer on the other side saying Johnson becomes the highest ranking official to visit the illegal settlements occupied Palestinian territory and then the Palestinian foreign minister says the ministry affirms that all settlement activity is invalid any Wait, what Ministry are you talking about? >> Palestinian Ministry of Foreign Affairs. >> Oh, the Palestinian. >> Yeah, it's like a joke. I'm like, who is the Palestinian Ministry of Foreign Affairs anyway? It's probably some terrorist that got let out of some jail cell 5 years ago. >> No, for sure. But let me just finish. He says, he says, uh, you know, he uses all the words, too. Settlement activ, you know, the illegal, all this stuff is invalid and illegal and undermines the opportunity to implement the two-state solution and achieve peace. >> Like, yeah, right. >> It's so cynical. It's so silly. >> You see what I'm saying about this like cartoon thing that's try but the world is living in this like ridiculous >> it it makes me laugh whenever anyone talks about undermining the opportunity or the feasibility of the two-state solution. I'm like >> what rock have you been hiding under excuse me for minister >> there's been no feasibility for a Palestinian state for at least a decade and definitely not since October. You say it's illegal. Who are you talking? You're talking to the third most powerful man in the world and you're telling him what's legal. >> Who's defined what legal is? Just a bunch of dudes from Belgia. They're just saying words. That's why Israel has to go back to the fundamentals. This is the biblical homeland. We are the indigenous Jews from Judea. Shilo is where the tabernacle stood. This belongs to Israel. Period. And if we can just say that, I feel like the world would respect us. But because we keep on tiptoeing through tulips trying to like I don't even know what we're trying to do. I don't know what we're trying to do in Gaza. We're occupying it. We're not liberating. We're liberating. We're not declaring sovereignty. So, we're confusing the world and the world is like coming out against us. And perhaps it is to pressure Israel to finally do what it needs to do. >> There's one thing for sure. You have Speaker Mike Johnson uh with Israel completely. I'll quote this and just summing up his his trip here. He said uh today the state of Israel and the Jewish people around the world are facing serious threats and is our moral duty to stand by our democratic sister as terrorism and the vile anti-semitic ideology uh threaten western civilization Israel must know that when America said never again we mend it. >> I think that he understands what's going on and he's he's he's here to to stand >> exactly. Um, there's there's a story I think it's important to talk about and it's kind of something it's one of those stories like you don't want to talk about it and you want to avoid it, but it's getting to be so big in the news now. And the one of those unnamed individuals we agreed not to mention on the show. I had him on a second time to for a two-hour interview yesterday, but there's this guy um retired from the US military, served in the Green Bray. He's a officer in the military for 25 years or he served in the military for 25 years. His name's Tony Agular. He's making like a a PR tour now around the world, mostly in the United States and millions, if not tens of millions of people are watching him. And he's being deemed as a whistleblower and a hero um by the world because he worked with the uh he worked with the GHF in Gaza for a couple of weeks and then uh he left. And I just want to tell you the details because I think it's important to know the truth. Um, and so he was he signed up after he retired from the military earlier this year. He signed up to work with one of the security contractors that's providing security for the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, right? So he's going to Gaza to help with the aid distribution. He goes there, I think May 24th or 26th, something like that. Um, and then on June 13th, he said he his account is he resigned out of protest because of the mismanagement, the poor leadership, and he witnessed war crimes, including children being intentionally shot by the IDF and the I think GHF, too. Um, and just like awful, awful things right now. He's on he's going around claiming that GHF is a fraud and there's starving Gazins, they're participating in genoci genocide, the IDF's committing war crimes, etc., etc., etc. So, I don't want to spend a ton of time in this, but I'm just going to detail for you guys the problems with the story. Okay. Uh, the security contractor, I think it's UG Solutions that he worked for says they fired him. And there's actually, we'll show you guys on the screen. We'll link it down below and all that kind of stuff. They fired him for disruptive and confrontational uh behavior, raising the temperature of the operations, unprofessional behavior, creating a hostile work environment, basically. And they even said, "We moved him around to a couple of the different sites. Didn't work out. We fired him." Right. Um and there's you can see the screenshot of that conversation. Uh after he was fired and resigned, there's more proof of him begging to be rehired by the leadership uh and them refusing. And then he started threatening them, saying, "We can do this the easy way or the hard way. I can be your worst nightmare." they refused and now he's being their worst nightmare by going around the world claiming that uh they're a fraud and they're participating in war crimes. Right? So that's kind of the proof and again we'll show it all to you guys and this could be an hourong uh deal to talk about this because it's so awful but I'm giving the short version. Here's the questions I would just ask you guys to ask yourself because you are seeing these clips. You're seeing them on all over social media of this guy like he's popping up everywhere. millions of people watching him. He's on every news network and podcaster in America. Questions are, why would you beg to be rehired from the organization where you either resigned from or you were fired from? Either way, like why would you try to go back to that organization, right? Why would you beg to be rehired if you experienced war crimes while you were there and the whole organization's a fraud and like why would you beg to be brought back? He spent like two and a half, three weeks total before he was fired. and some of that time he was not even in Gaza. So the other question is how are you an expert after only spending a few days working there. Um and many of his claims are debunked with actual evidence of uh his claim even like to the point he wrote a memo and they actually went into the metadata and proved that he made he he backdated the memo a month to to claim that it was written like a month before. It's just a lot of crazy stuff. So, I wanted to give you guys those tools to know because you're seeing these crazy stories, like crazy crazy stories that are just outright lies of people saying, "I was there. I have the proof. Israel's committing war crimes. They're committing genocide." Also, the whole thing that, you know, like they're starving the the people of Gaza. Um, it's just all a lie. And then, like you were saying, Jeremy, >> the cover of Time magazine. >> Yeah. Time magazine just exposed that they just totally faked a picture where they're actually taking a picture of the photographer of the people that are like asking the people to look as if they're starving with their pants coming out. So there is a campaign of literally blood liels, just lies about Israel. It's not new. But the one solace that I have is that as we move closer to a new stage in history, as we move closer towards the end of these days, lies will look like truths and truths will look like lies. That's what Bible says. All of the lies are coming out now and people are taking it as truth. And the only clear path, the only thing that can bring clarity and truth is to actually hold on to scripture. Hold on to the Tanakh, hold on to the Hebrew Bible because that's the only thing with all the lies. And who knows, we haven't even started really that much with AI, but eventually it will be indistinguishable. And so many lies will be able to be poured out about Israel. And so the one truth that we have is reality and the Bible. And thank God all of that is coming to pass today. >> My overwhelming response to all this is Luke is weakness. Just plain weakness. >> Yeah. >> These are supposed to be the best of American military. These are all special ops guys. The GHF, the whole thing is is supposed to be the best of our American teams. That is, you know, people. It's a contractor deal, but these are the best of soldiers that they're hiring on for a mass amount of money to come in and do this job. And they themselves, the best of our Americans, like you know, special ops kind of guys who spent 20 years in special forces, green berets, are coming into Gaza and they can't do they they can't do anything. They literally they're sitting behind the fence like a bunch of scared guys trying to hand out food. I'm like, what in the world? Whatreng they are doing a good job, the organization, >> I'm just saying where's the strength, >> right? >> Go smack into this town. The strength does not say bring the trucks in and let them get looted. like that that >> that's the UN. Yeah. >> Well, yeah, of course the UN's like that, but I'm saying bring the truck straight into the question to go back to what Jeremy was saying too is like like I'm always drawn to like explain yes, they are feeding the people of Gaza. They're doing a good job. This is how many meals like that's my natural tendency and I have to remind myself like you were saying Jeremy, why is why is Israel expected to feed the people of Gaza? Like just ask yourself that. And honestly like there is there's not a good answer to that question. Well, if we would have just actually put a siege on Gaza from day one, like every other war throughout history, which is also legal according to international law, then maybe this war would have been over in a few days, >> right? Well, I mean, I don't I don't know if it would have been over in a few days. A few days is too long. We spoke about this before that from a Makavevelian perspective where he talks about the art of war. When you do something that is perceived in the eyes of the world as good, you're supposed to drag it out over time. And when you do it something that will be perceived in the eyes of the world as bad, then you do it quickly to siege the people of God. I don't think that that's it's also something we don't want to do because there are likely individuals within Gaza that are innocent. We we should try to defend even those unique individuals. So why don't we just do what needs to be? You know, you asked Luke before the show started. You're looking at Aviatar David, you're like, how is the world not up in arms about that? And I think the answer is simple. Because we, the nation of Israel, aren't up in arms about that? Why would they why would the world be righteously indignant about something that we, as the nation of Israel, we should be the ones that are righteously indignant? And if we're not, if we're so jaded and beaten down that we just accept this with our heads down in an abstract intellectual way, then what do we expect from the world? I think we have to really look within and be righteously indignant in a biblical way and to so to go in get the top I've said this before top 10 kamas prisoners in of terrorists in our prison and execute them in a humiliating way broadcast to all of Gaza and say this is going to happen to every member of kamas tomorrow if you don't release all of our hostages now that's the only thing that works but if we're going to do this thing and we're even siege and we're not letting the electricity in just go in with righteous indignation and fury. And maybe the world's not going to love us, but at least they'll respect us. And right now, they don't even respect us because we're willing to just, you know, talk in an abstract way. I'm listening to different rabbis and political leaders about October 7th. And I'm I'm honestly when my children have to run into a safe room and I see my my son putting his hands over his ears and my daughter shivering, I'm embarrassed. I feel like a failure in the eyes of my children. They look at me like, "Aba, how could you let this be? How we have to not allow this to be and the world will respect that? Right now, there's no respect for Israel because we're just so beaten down and jaded." >> I tell you, when I I watched the presentation at the UN Security Council talking about the starvation of the hostages, and it's like the world knows once Israel attacked Iran, countries were saying, "Israel's doing our dirty work." The world knows what kamas is. The world knows what evil is. And it's as if we're like trying to convince the world that the kamas is bad. The world knows if we would have just acted with righteous indignation and done what needed to be done, the world would have been quiet. The world would have respected us. But because we're delivering them food and we're trying to go out there, we're tiptoeing through tulips in order. It's just like we are losing world opinion because we're not doing what's right and what's moral. In this week's Torah portion, it literally says, "Follow the Torah because it will be uh what the world looks at and says, "Wow, what a wise and great nation because you're following the Torah." That's the wisdom. Is anyone consulting? What is the Torah perspective of how to go to war against this evil? It's definitely not delivering them food and aid and tiptoeing through tulips. It's to eviscerate the kamas, to just destroy the evil from its root. That's what needs to be done. This Bible says if you allow them to stay in the land, they will be thors in your thorns in your eyes. That's literally what they I will do to you what I was what I would have done to them. That is what the the Bible and we have let them stay in the land. We're constantly thinking there's a backdrop in our heads, a narrative that's constantly going, what would the world think about this? What would the world say? And I think it's natural for human beings to think that way. We just need to recalibrate it from what would the world say to the God of Israel who has redeemed us throughout history that has protected us that has kept true to every single promise that has allowed us to survive despite the fact that we are the fewest among the nations that we lack the most basic survival mechanisms that any nation has. The miracle of our existence is only because of him. What does he think of us? Forget what the world thinks of us. What does he We should be so focused on that that we don't think about the other stuff. >> Yeah. Well, I want to just share some good news based on that because the first Karedi ultraorththodox battalion called the Hasmonians named after the Mcabes just completed their first round of advanced training. 7 months they finished off at the hotel and I saw this video where you see the soldiers and you see their families and you see ultraorththodox Jews that are so committed to the Torah and they're now integrating for the first time into the IDF and it is slowly but surely becoming a resurrected army of King David that will actually try to live and operate by the Torah. Because until we actually establish the Torah as our values and God as our guide for what's moral and what's not, we're just going to be running around in circles and we're never going to be successful. >> That's right. And it's it's it's uh such good news that people need to hang on to that. They need to hang on to the truth cuz like we're like you're saying and the Bible talks about it and then you know the the the lies will be accepted as truth and the truth is lies. Everything will be mixed up and it's just accelerating more and more and more. It's just getting faster and it's getting worse and it's getting more uh confusing and complex and and more than ever you I think you said it well Jeremy people need to hold on to scripture. They need to hold on to talking about um you know the the the commandment to the Israelites to uh not allow their enemies to live in the land. And and obviously people are thinking well what does that mean? Do you are you saying kick all the Arabs out of the land? Someone asked me once if there was a place for the Arabs, you know, those in Judea and Samaria, those in Gaza to live in Israel. And I said, you know, honestly, I think it comes down to whether or not they could ever align themselves with the God of Abraham. If they could actually align themselves with the God of Abraham and the covenant of Abraham, meaning God's covenant to the Jewish people, to the covenant with the land and with the people uh forever. And if they could acknowledge that and align themselves with that, then yes, maybe there is a place for them in the land. But not not otherwise. Like if you don't align yourself with the God of Abraham, then there is no place for you here in this land. And I think that's uh we have to align ourselves with the God of Abraham. Whether you're in America, whether you're in Australia, whether you're in Norway, wherever you are, you have to align yourself with the God of Abraham and the covenant that God made with a land and a people. And I think that's so important. So guys, hold on to truth more than ever. It's super important. Um and uh uh keep keep fighting, keep standing no matter what the world says, no matter what the world does. It's not going to be the safe place. 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