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welcome to the Israel guys and the land of Israel Network where we believe that in a world of anti-israel propaganda and Jew hatred you should have a direct connection to the land and people of Israel guys so much happening in the news this week I'm here with Joshua Waller and Rabbi Arya bramwit and Jeremy gimpel so good to have all of us here to talk about Earth shattering news right and it seems like the headlines just continue on and on we're talking about BB netan Israel's prime minister being the first foreign leader to be invited to the White House in Trump's since Trump was inaugurated um I also read interestingly that BB has stayed at the Blair House the official guest residence for the White House more times than any other foreign leader at in his terms as prime minister and in government capacities in Israel and groundbreaking that happens uh was it yesterday morning or the night before I believe President Trump announced is that the us is going to take over the Gaza Strip which we will dive into what in the world does that mean um I also read because everybody's talking Saudi Arabia Saudi Arabia what's going to happen with Saudi Arabia they've already rejected the plan and a reporter asked Trump in that same press conference do you support Israeli sovereignty in Judea and Samaria and Trump responded saying there will be an official US Administration position within the next month so all fascinating fascinating stuff we're going to get into all of that uh first couple quick announcements guys make sure you subscribe wherever you're listening or watching so happy to have you here make sure to check out all the various platforms and the Israel Summit 2025 where all four of us are going to be uh at and speaking is June 9th through 11th this year Dallas Texas you don't want to miss it there'll be a direct link in the description below and the exciting part is that embassador David fredman former US ambassador David fredman under Trump's first uh term in office is going going to be one of the keynote speakers so could not be more excited about that can I just tell you one of the most fascinating and impressive things about Ambassador David fredman that people don't know you heard it here first he came out to the farm and he was sitting with us at the table we were having lunch and his son knows the entire Torah by heart you're kidding by heart it's not just by heart you can say Leviticus chap 28:19 and you'll just close his eyes for a little bit and then spit out the exact verse chapter and it's unbelievable yeah so I'm like okay Ambassador fman it was fun to talk to you anyways you know it was like so his son was there you met him yeah yeah he brought his family to the farm and and by the way that that says something also about the Ambassador himself you know how he raises his family and the values that he has you see very often reflected in the children as the values of the parents and I think he has been a demonstration of that godliness uh as a blessing for America and for Israel I one time I asked him because his name name is David melik Friedman so it's like David the king so I asked him you know what that what what his middle name is melik yeah yeah we're learning all these new things about one time I asked his brother because I was at a meeting and his brother was there I was like do you how do you feel about your parents name and your your younger brother you know like David King like King he said oh it wasn't that bad it was a family name or something and it wasn't so like so yeah going to say I thought he was going to say it's hard to be Benjamin Messiah fredman right right you know in is messiah messiah is actually a name that's get I had a plumber named mashiach wow right like mashiah is coming to my home to fix my clog the sink and I mean like beside all those impressive accomplishments he also happens to be like the sole reason that the US Embassy was moved to Jerusalem and and Jerusalem was recognized by Trump as the capital but we'll uh don't have time to get into all of that but you guys should register right now for the Israel Summit Link in the description below would love to see and meet all of you guys uh there so before we dive into the details the US the United States of America taking over the Gaza STP I want to just do lightning round like five words Josh good or bad if I would to boil it down into good or bad I fact is the question is is it going to be American territory or Israel that's my thought and if it's if it's Israel I'm really excited if it's America I'm kind of like I don't know like what is this I don't feel like America should own territory on the god of strip if they can help it's great that's my big that's big good for Israel good for the world from the place of the ultimate truth everything that happens is good and is for the good now it depends really how this thing plays out I feel conflicted because on the one hand I really believe Trump wants the best thing for Israel for America for Humanity for the world and so he should be blessed for that on the other hand I grieve in my heart that Israel is not doing this ourselves that we're not going in and declaring sovereignty and making a part of Israel that being said perhaps it would be like the times of Abraham where Abraham purchased up the land of Israel if America owns it then there should be available for private purchase and Jews could go and purchase Gaza as Abraham did and make it Jewish God has ways of doing things that we don't know but I'm sorry that's more than five words I'll tell you there are three things that need to happen when we come into the land of Israel and the first one is to rid the land of Amal to rid the land of evil and all of a sudden now locating the Gins is not just mainstream it's what the president of America is saying needs to be done so if we can remove the evil from the land of Israel that is such a huge step forward that Israel honestly couldn't do on its own even if we pass the law the Supreme Court the woke left-wing Progressive liberal Supreme Court would have shut that bill down and so when America says we're doing it this is America the Supreme Court has no Authority anymore and Israel disengaged from Gaza leaving it sort of up in in the in the in the air of who that land actually belongs to America coming in and saying all right we're relocating the gazin permanently is such a huge step in the right direction it was a catac a cataclysmic tectonic shift I mean he took something that within Israeli Society was outside the Overton window you could not even the most furthest right-wing uh politician could not go come out and say transfer the entire population there was an Israeli politician Mel benari that was banned from running in the knesset because he said that we have to relocate the Gins yeah and then Trump in Trump comes in is like yeah someone asks what about him oh what about them yeah can we just call Trump like the ultimate rule breaker um so before like we we need to get into all these details but let's just watch the 30 second clip of trump making this announcement the US will take over the Gaza Strip and we will do a job with it too we'll own it and be responsible for dismantling all of the dangerous unexploded bombs and other weapons on the site level the site and get rid of the destroyed buildings level it out create an economic development that will Supply Unlimited numbers of jobs and housing for the people of the area do a real job do something different just can't go back if you go back it's going to end up the same way it has for a hundred years so a lot to unpack there and obviously a lot of questions and some people speculating that the US Administration officials like were scrambling to follow up with like okay here's what the president actually means the White House president press secretary came out and said well it's going to be a temporary relocation you know the president means this we're not sending US troops in the US is not going to fund this etc etc but um what are what what are yall thoughts the other question is how much some people actually speculating BB was kind of surprised when this announcement came out like what are y'all's thoughts was this a a carefully calculated move is this something that BB and Trump came up with together is this just a classic like Trump just throw this out there and see how the world reacts well for sure that uh they've been talking about relocating on the other side uh they've been talking about relocating uh Arabs from Gaza and the Trump administrations that's actually been an internal thing that they've been talking about for a while so I don't think that's a new idea it's new to like uh everybody but that's come out that that wasn't such a new idea well Trump would never do this without Israel's approval it's not like he's doing this Rogue and shocking BB there were conversations that had to have happened before that announcement happened that wasn't like shocking BB when he's actually in the Press sure about that I can imagine him just thinking of it as he's answering the question I don't think so can I also say something there's something good going on when you see BB beaming at the White House absolutely just compare it contrast it to Obama who like snuck BB in through the back door by the big garbage disposal unit and now Trump is the first guest coming into the White House and being treated with as the Ally and friend that uh like there's such a sharp contrast there regardless of the outcome of this it's it's a restoration um that I think Americans are celebrating Israel is celebrating I I think that there's really a a blessing that's happening because regardless of what what I how I feel about this Gaza thing I feel that Trump's heart is in the right place he wants something good and I think that um America nations are also judged on a macro level like it or not whether it's fair or not it is fair in the eyes of God and a leader that is democratically elected is a reflection of the Nation on some level and for so long I felt like America was did not have blessing upon it it was not heading down a path of virtue and godliness and biblical Truth at all and now Trump is has been brought in and he's surrounded himself by people who are biblical God-fearing people that's a trend was the greatest thing that's happened Trump is actually peeling back the layers of life lies and the truth for the first time is really being exposed the truth is being revealed gazin have no right to that land they're not gazin as if they're indigenous to Gaza everyone says two-thirds of them refugees they have no claim in any right to that land the Palestinian people is a fiction that was created just to destroy Israel because if there's a Palestinian people then a Palestinian people obviously needs a Palestine and Arabs are from Arabia not Judea and not Gaza and so now it's saying yes we need to relocate them because there's no claim there and the truth now because evil uses delusions and Illusions to mask the truth and now he's just peeling that away exposing the truth that this land belongs to Israel and working together with Israel coming out with a joint statement with the prime minister of Israel next to him saying we're going to rebuild Gaza from a base of terrorism and destruction to a base of Liberty unity and prosperity like what a beautiful idea let me ask a question if you guys have this little voice in the back of your head a little skeptical voice that maybe this is a negotiating technique maybe this is and by the way I don't think any of this is necessarily premeditated I think he's such an instinct instinctive person that it's just coming out but he was just talking about the Gulf of America it's not the Gulf of Mexico anymore it's the Gulf of America and we're going to put 25% tariffs on Mexico and then all of a sudden Mexico's like well back it up how about this we'll give you 10,000 of our soldiers to guard from from Mexican infiltration with fentanyl into America and Trump is getting all these things he's want he backed off the tariffs not renaming it the Gulf of America he just throws things out there and then ends up getting real concessions from people who are afraid of his erat maybe that's part of what this is he's throwing such a thing out there but it's not really an intention for him to go and build the Riviera and make it's 100% in America's interest to create a Puerto ricol like place in the land of Israel that would provide them a military base that doesn't need to be is military but now it would be America's military base there is um pictures coming out in Egypt where they've brought weapons Vehicles tanks lining up on Egypt's border all of a sudden now there's going to be an American Military presence in a place that would theoretically be America that will bring a new stability to the region and to the area I I like that for right now what happens if that was a military base under our last Administration and that wasn't so pro Israel that's when it's concerning to me thinking long term what what happens when Trump's no longer the president and say we get a a uh Administration that's not so pro-israel that's what I that's what that's the little thing behind the scenes to me that's concerning if it's not built on a sovereign Israel basis then I could foresee problems not now because we got a we got a support like Trump loves Israel he supports Israel my my big thought is is when Trump in that video he says that we're going to re build this for the PE the locals basically we're going to rebuild who's he talking about there's a lot of like uh ambiguity there's not a lot of clarity not clear and he's doing that from purpose I'm sure he's leaving a lot of room here to develop this what whole piece of the press conference it was very ambig it wasn't clear when he was saying settle them back in is he talking about settling in the uh Hamas jihadist Gins is he is he not talking about them does he understand that the overwhelmingly vast majority of these gazin civilian are actually terrorist Hamas supporters does he understand that from what I understand he does know that now because I believe he watched that 45 minute documentary that was put together on the atro has he watched it yet he did watch it before that meeting with netan that was in my mind a game-changing reality when he was able to just see evil for what evil is and that's why when he says he wants to remove the Gins he's not saying temporarily meaning they're backtracking now the state department but he wants to remove them from the land and in my mind that is such a GI step forward yes I understand that in four years from enough a new Administration arises but right now we have a chance to move the jihadist evil from the land and then establish a place of freedom and liberty then the freedom and liberty will decide where they align meaning that would be a true part of the Abraham Accords we're talking about two people right now we're talking about the gazin Israel and actually if we at America to this this thing but there's also other players Saudi Arabia is there a is there a thought that the Gulf states are going to be involved with this when you say be involved are you talking about receiving the Gins well because I just look at Trump as the dealmaker he's really and and they're also saying they don't like this plan what do have you guys thought about that they're already backing down Saudi Arabia has already said oh the thing that we were saying under Biden and the Biden Administration that we're not going to make a deal with Israel unless there is a Palestinian state they're like no no not necessarily maybe a path forwards a lot of really good talk about a Palestinian State meaning that when there is no daylight between America and Israel it's a blessing for Israel it's a blessing for America and the world sees this as such a powerful United block that all of a sudden Saudi Arabia is like there there's strength there and we can rely on this and it's solid we don't need to play this game as if we care at all about the Palestinians who I think Saudi Arabia would play a big role in investing in building up this Riviera I mean what a Dream well for me what it did was it gave me hope m there was a time where I was looking around I said to the hostages are being released there's a sort of a ceasefire things are we is this it and we're just going to end now and we're like in the middle what are we doing with these Gins and the Kamas and now there's a way forward that is a huge step for everyone it's like wow there's a new conversation that's happening now about relocating the Gins they lost their right to self-governance and in that way Iran really lost the war I'll just tell you how my heart is a little bit torn I'm a little bit heartbroken and maybe I'm a purist or an idealist to such an extreme degree that it's even a flaw I don't know but when I heard what Trump said get them out then I thought of the verse in the book of numbers but if you do not possess the inhabitants of the land Those whom you allow to remain shall be thorns in your eyes and thorns in your sides and they shall harass you in the land in which you live this is a clear biblical directive why is the Bible not being implemented by the nation of the Bible by the people of the Bible who supposed to be a beacon of light and living the Torah for a living manifestation of the Torah for the entire world and then America is coming in and implementing this verse or even suggesting it even putting it out there to me it just seems like a lot of a dose of humility for Israel that God's plan will unfold and may it'll take an American president to do it if it will not be through you Israel then it will happen some way or another meaning to me it's very clear that God saved Trump's life that bullet came a millisecond right near and for just a time like this I mean Proverbs chapter 21 says the king's heart is in the hand of God like the rivers of water he turns it wherever he wants that is what's happening now meaning God is taking control and shifting history in the most unexpected way possible that's exciting and I feel like with Trump you the Dem is a demon ation of that more than I've ever seen in another leader because you can almost see the global world changing policies coming out from a shift in his eye and a thought fleeting through his head right it says um there will be many thoughts in the mind of in the heart of man but God's wi will is what will arise but I actually heard a different teaching about that many will be thoughts in the hearts of men but God's will he will decide which of those thoughts in the heart of man he will raise up and so what comes out of Trump's mouth quite literally is Jeremy said is what is God is willing to play out in the world right now and that's why he's such a perfect vessel because he's true to allow his instinct to come up where a lot of people don't have that sort of unbelievable confidence in their intuition that would change massively the entire Globe right well what that video did I think to Donald Trump was it shifted his perspective to realize that the Kamas are the Gins and the Gins are Kamas in that video There's no distinction between the Hamas terrrace with the green ribbon and the simple people of Gaza they were all participating they were all celebrating they were all beating the hostages and to see evil manifest it was like October 7th was this historic turning point and as the Jewish people left Egypt there was we were like the pride of The World God was revealed we took down the mightiest Empire and then evil came AMC and attacked Israel and then it sort of like threw some cold water saying like is God really that powerful look we're able to attack this chosen people and Hamas for the first time broadcast the atrocities of October 7th saying oh the Jewish people in the land of Israel let's see what they're really worth let's broadcast this humiliation and it was that humiliation that broadcasting that's now causing their downfall and so it was this historic turning point that without October 7th I don't know if Trump would have been elected everyone sort of recognized like whoa that may come into my borders we have to wake up right I think you're going to unpack this on like a lot of different levels if we just start with the base level this is how I see it I see Trump has common sense right he's doing what you're talking about he's wa he watched the October 7th footage he sees the atrocities of Kamas and then he's looking at pictures of Gaza and he's saying you know we've all been to Gaza we've seen we've been you know we've seen the rubble ourselves Gaza is a is a trash Heap there is no Gaza to speak of you know they they allowed the gazin back into the north of Gaza what did they do they turned around and went back south because there's nothing there's absolutely nothing so Trump's um looking at this on a very foundational level going we have to start over and he also has realized that any kind of plan that allows Gaza to rebuild is just going to end up with the same thing October 7th again oppression for the Gaz of people so he's saying if we're going to turn the page in history there has to be something different and also Gins are coming out in in droves and saying you don't need to trans open the Border we're out oh that out when has it ever been that uh during a conflict like this they're being held imprisoned there they're not allowed to leave because a lot of these jihadist countries who don't care about them at all and hate them are using them as a pawn to perpetuate the 1948 war that they've never gotten over the people that are funding them and sending them supplies like all the time coming from Egypt supplies are literally being flown in all they're not going to allow them out like it's really a ridiculous thing and that's happening here in Judea and Samaria because here they actually have the option to leave and they can actually they can easily get visas to a lot of different countries if that were to be open which um uh itar Ben gav's introduced legislation in the knesset right now to give the Gins a voluntary uh option to leave and where Israel would actually give them a financial compensation for it if that were to happen we all know they would leave in droves just like you're saying because do not want to live there it would be impossible for mere words to do justice in describing the land of Israel Fellowship because yes we learn inspiring and uplifting insights into the Torah into the Bible together Torah as Isaiah said that could only come forth from Zion but it's so much more than that it's a community of lovers of Israel from many nations from every corner of the world Jews Christians it doesn't matter we're more than a community we've become a family this is an invitation give it a try come visit us at the landof israel.com you guys have done a piece about this before if you drive through Judea and Samaria and you see these massive mansions and yeah Humvees and Range Rovers and they're able to build and live quite nicely here you know so but uh I think that's what they they just ch it as their vacation homes though vacation homes honestly that's not like a they've taken massive advantage and and and they've they've made the world think the situation here is something that it's not it's been the probably one of the biggest scandals of of our our historic time the scandal of the Arab world uh demonizing the Jewish people uh uh telling a story revamping the history rewriting the history I mean that's what we've all seen here and what's happening is is that is UN it's it's it's falling that whole facade that was built since 1964 of a Palestinian people things you mentioned earlier Jeremy like this it's the facad is now crumbling and now the truth is coming to the top with people like Trump and these different leaders uh BB these people these leaders that are recognizing the truth for once and not disc going along with this uh horrible uh remake of History that's been written since 1964 that's how we get to uh I see the reason why I'm I'm I'm optimistic about this Trump plan I'm optimistic about the next four weeks when we hear something about Judea and Samaria because I believe that they're addressing the core issue they're not saying to State like the other uh administrations have have historically gone on they are not uh believing the narrative false on that I'm I'm also holding my breath but I'm optimistic about it because I believe they're they understand that the narrative was incorrect they understand that the Arab narrative for the for the last since 1964 uh was was not uh rooted in truth it was propaganda and it was all uh uh written in order to delegitimize and demonize the Jewish state and its Origins here so once that can be removed then I think we've got something to talk about and I think that's where we're going to see blessing and we're also going to see some really Common Sense moves starting to happen like get terrorists out of Israel now I don't understand why terrorists need to belong anywhere but you know that's that's I don't know what this plan as well that I just want to bring up so um the White House Press Secretary said that Trump's plan uh is is all about lasting peace for the entire region sheal she talked about how president Trump is an outside the box thinker and a Visionary leader that solves problems with many others especially uh the claim are unsolvable so she's talking about he has Common Sense he's an outof box thinker nobody else has put forward anything remotely feasible for Gaza right and she's but she also uses the opportunity to clarify where Trump's goingon to his plan is temporarily relocate the Godin so I saw a comment from someone um that said and and this makes a lot of sense right how many years is it going to take to rebuild Gaza even if the US comes in and and like spearheads this project we're talking 10 years 20 years right you you take the 1.8 or however many Gins there are they temporarily temporarily reloc I think he said permanent well he said permanent but then his staff came back and said no he meant temporary right it's classic Trump right but my question is either way how many gin are going to come back in 10 years even if they have the opportunity to come back like well likely there'll be infrastructure in place that they'll actually have to get a visa to come back I mean I hope so right but even if they have the opportunity I don't think they're coming back they leave they and provided that they're not stuck in a refugee camp somewhere and they actually could move to another country well nobody cares if it's not a refugee camp in Israel no even if they have the opportunity I don't think they would they would take it I think the Big Challenge in this whole thing is which country would possibly take them there's not one Arab country that is even entertaining the idea we did see that uh picture of the cannibals saying yes please send them to us 10 a week we prefer them chubby you know but there's no country that's actually coming and saying because they know what an erratic jihadist destabilizing Force this these people are and so I don't see how that's actually going to really play out well there are so many countries and you know Colombia was against Trump uh Mexico was against Trump and Trump has a way and I feel like he's such a businessman he's keeping his cards close to his chest he's leaving things unclear he's leaving things ambiguous is it permanent is it temporary is it 20 years is it 10 years once they're gone are they going to come back because a good businessman keeps his cards close to his chest he doesn't want to reveal everything at the same time but what has happened is terrorists are going to be relocated that is a new paradigm shift and that Paradigm Shift needs to happen in Judea and Samaria it needs to happen in Jerusalem instead of releasing terrorists into the streets which is the direction we were going with this hostage deal were actually changing the narrative saying if you are a jihadist you will be removed from the land that is the biblical imper okay but what I don't like about this and I could be wrong here is it doesn't feel like the right thing for Israel to do is to export this toxic genocidal evil to any other country to any other people we really need to crush it and I think one of the ways that you actually crush the ideologies not by getting into their textbooks but by crushing by uprooting it from the from its very core from the deepest roots and what does that mean for Israel to come in as true overwhelming Victors declare sovereignty have an an iron fist against terrorists Kamas terrorists execute them as they need to be executed can I say that is that need I mean it to say execute Hamas terrorist is the fact I even need to ask if that can be said it's so obviously the right thing that needs to be done and when you uh when you negate the foundations of their jihadist ideology that is think about it after 1967 when we overwhelmingly obliterated Against All Odds they don't even study that in West in West Point because they study Wars and not Miracles Israel would you could walk through a Jew could walk through rala Janine taram walk through without any fear because they were like the overwhelming strength and victory of the the god of Israel Over Us it's only when we started coming in and violating the Covenant and and giving them land and that things got weak I think we need to come in and really as as the nation of Israel with strength do this and I don't necessar I'm not confident the long-term blessing is going to come from Gaza becoming an American colony well let's just look at the the trajectory because to uproot an ideology it has to be proven wrong and Iran waged a war against Israel funded the Kamas organized balah and today Gaza is in ruins the Hamas is practically destroyed dbah is devastated Iran's Ally Assad has been toppled Iran's air defense systems have been destroyed leaving them totally vulnerable and Arab self-rule in Gaza is lost right now it's definitely not going back to the Kamas it's definitely not going to the Palestinian Authority or some other terrorist organization and now we've paved the way for relocating terrorists like that is the conversation that we're having now that Mikel benere the politician was banned for running in Israel's knesset for saying relocate the terrorist and now that is the mainstream that is a trajectory and we're headed in the right direction here's a big problem I see I think it's a great trajectory and I think it's awesome uh but just to throw out another issue if you if you don't take if you don't rid if you don't fight your enemy and destroy your enemy if you just relocate him there is problematic sense of that and kind of what you're saying Ari is because what we've seen is is that as long as there is something intact for isra in in Israel if if Jude and Samaria for instance is not completely one over as well then we also have these Terror networks that are going to be run from Iran from Jordan and Egypt and turkey I mean that's what we have going on right now these prisoners that have been sent out from here even though they've been banned from Israel say which is great that the problem's no longer here but those tentacles still are attached and those leaders those ones that had life sentences in Israel are now able to funnel all of that hatred and evil through and encourage attacks here and we've seen that happen actually quite yesterday here in Samaria someone that you know from here in in in Hara there was a terrorist attack on an on an army base and I wouldn't be surprised if that weapon that he used was sent directly from Iran Iran is sending weapons into Judea and Samaria but even more than that they're training and teaching and coordinating from abroad that's the big issue that I foresee is that it needs to be added to this how do we make sure that it's completely dismantled not just moved to an exterior point because if they can still Target our friends and family that live here in Israel that's a big problem I still have which means that it has to be not just removed it has to be finished and I don't know how that works when you're removing these say if you're just moving all of the gsin out that's not destroying Hamas well I think what what both of you guys are are saying here is Israel should be strong Israel should be Sovereign and they should obliterate evil the the terrorism and the evil should be obliterated and that's something that unfortunately you know 3 weeks ago ago we saw Israel compromised on in order to get hostages back um and and Israel they were strong for 15 months and then all the sudden I think BB told Fox News that Hamas is something like 70 or 80% destroyed their their capacity and their their Firepower but unfortunately they've stopped now Israel said no we're committed to finishing Kamas but they've stopped the war at this point so the question is will they continue to be strong and I think that's something everybody should agree on strong Israel Sovereign Israel evil and terrorism should be obliterated from the land now people ask ask me I'm sure they ask you you know is there a future for Arabs in Israel in Judea and Samaria in Gaza is there a future for them could they live in peace with Israel my response and you guys can tell me what you think but my response has always been there's a future for anyone in Israel and with the Jewish people if they believe in the god of Abraham and if they Embrace a covenant that God made with the Jewish people and with Israel to me it doesn't matter who you are you're you're Arab Muslim Christian whoever you are you have to stand with the god of Abraham and with the Covenant that he made and that there's a future for anyone with the Jewish people clarify one more thing on that if if you believe in those things I think that I think you all agree with this as well but I think it helps with the clarity is is that maybe not this and that but it literally in the from a Biblical perspective which all of us share and hopefully the new Administration also shares a Biblical perspective on this issue is literally you have Israel and then you don't in a Biblical perspective you don't have America's not really mentioned in the bible uh you know China's not mentioned in the bible Russia I mean maybe prophetically or whatever but by name right you have Israel and then you have everyone else so meaning this is the land of Israel and the Jewish people and then those on the outside must be guessed and participate how Israel decides and that's kind of what we boiling down model see all throughout the Bible I mean Ruth attached herself to Israel the Torah talks about the Foreigner who joined themselves to Hashem right Israel is not a racist State it's a welcoming State it's a house of prayer for all nations from a Biblical view so right just as Moses was accused by korak of being being arrogant and the Bible tells us he was the most humble we're always accused of that which is opposite I don't think there is a less racist state in the world than Israel in the entire world and so uh you know for me when I you to answer your question when we look at Ismael Ishmael the father of the Arab world in the end of his life he reconciled with Isaac we believe that those are archetypes that that is a blueprint for what's going to play out and what is already playing out the Abraham Accords were heading there so if you ask is there a future for Arabs in Israel Arabs yes jihadists no it's that simple that's great right I think that all of this boils down to truth and truth is absolute and there is no scientific proof that's absolute there's just scientific experiments that eventually point in a certain direction and there is One Promise One Foundation that without it there is no truth and that is the promise of the land of Israel to the people of Israel if you are going to participate in that promise and reveal that truth that is the truth of reality and it's just a matter of time until reality reveals itself and that is the truth that we just need to have patience and just hold on now with faith that the truth will ultimately be revealed you know Jeremy and I in in our fellowship we're connected with righteous of the Nations much like you guys from all over the world and these people have installed on their phone the Red Alert app where the minute there's a missile shot into Israel wakes them up in the middle of the night and they say Psalms I they tell me that they're struggling with pain and grief and anxiety over what's happening in Israel and the Psalms tell us King David tells us those who sew with tears reap with joy it doesn't need to be theological people who love Israel and the Jewish people so much that their heart and their emotions are attached to it they will be sharing in the they share in the Merit of the Redemption that is coming and they're a part of it they're a part literally of of what is happening here wherever they are phys physically in the world yeah that's a good point I just to make it not so theological meaning the we are witnessing the promise to Abraham to Abraham it's like we are watching the Abraham Accords that is being fulfilled before our eyes under all of the names that's bringing this region together in a piece that includes the Believers in America that includes the righteous Muslims in the region they're all coming under the banner of who Abraham who is the father of many nations I mean can we see the Bible come more to life than we're actually watching what's happening Gaza is just the beginning October 7th was the beginning of the end and we are now at the final marching orders toward a new era that's what it feels like to me amazing um any last thoughts about Trump's plan I mean we could probably go for two hours but uh to me the only other layer that's possible here is kind of what Josh and I think aru were talking about at the beginning and is this part of a negotiation or a master plan that doesn't actually involve you know rebuilding Gaza is this something to do with Saudi Arabia or furthering the Abraham Accords um I don't know what do you think which I I would think would also be positive and kind of what you're saying guess the problem problematic part two just um before you dive into is is this part of a plan that's going to force Israel into something that they shouldn't do like a concession I I foresee that the the creating a a 23rd Arab state is kind of being pushed out is that what you guys a 24th how many Arab states yeah um another Arab state that idea is being I think that's off the table I don't I don't see that the and which that's why the moving out the deportation of these people is so uplifting because that's this is the first time we're saying no to another state October 7th was the two-state solution that was the consequence of that allowing evil to manifest to rule itself to get guards it just became a base of Terror and there's no question that's what would happen with any Arab State that's in the land of Israel now we are finally liberating the land from that and that is the most important step is actually removing the evil from the land so my big question I guess and the question we don't really have a lot of lot of information on is what that would look like and I foresee it moving very much in that direction I I don't see a situation where it's just America and Israel uh build building Gaza I I very much so feel like Trump is going to be pulling in the Gulf States to in order to expand the Abraham Accords with that as a big Chun of the deal let me tell you something beautiful um when the Abraham Accords were signed I that immediately the first opportunity that I had I took my family to Dubai I wanted to walk around with like a star of David walking around Muslim country I thought that I would never see that in my lifetime and we were honored and celebrated for being Israelis that were there and it was beautiful because in Dubai there are Chinese people Indian people it looked like a little vision of like the entire world like a little Messianic era right there and there was 0% crime it was absolutely you didn't feel threatened nothing there's zero crime there imagine 0% crime well because you grow up in this area I mean you're from this area and you when you go like I automatically when I'm in a in a in a a a strictly Arab country I feel the oppression of it of course and you're saying that that was not there there was 0% crime I never even heard of such an idea I was able to sell my little girl across the street to go get some milk that we'd be able to I mean it was like an unbelievable reality now what will happen if this dream somehow manifests and the United Arab Emirates are involved and Saudi Arabia is involved and they're building up this Riviera it will bring the world to celebrate the greatest weather in America and they'll be able to see the truth meaning what hayovel does better than any other organization is it brings people to Judea to Samaria to see the truth of Israel because then evil can't manipulate because lies can be said this is an apartheid state this is a racist State all of a sudden when you see reality with your own eyes and they're able to come and visit a rebuilt Gaza then evil is has to retreat because the truth will be revealed the more people we can bring to the land of Israel to visit to tour to invest to grow the better I'll tell you my my concern is when you say it'll bring the world to realize let's think about what happened the last time we were on a great trajectory with Saudi Arabia and the Abraham Accords and they're expanding and they're expanding what happened Kamas saw this blessing and this progression towards what appeared to be a type of Redemptive time and they came in and attacked on October 7th my concern I don't want to say concern because I try not to be concerned about anything because it's all God's hands but is that Iran is making is real seeing what's happening the the way the pieces are being moved and they're like this is the time to go for it I think that we have a real danger here of being on the edge of real Global World War happening now maybe I have a tendency to think in that capacity but I think it's a real danger that we're facing by the way if that did happen because of what the Trump Administration is doing I would not blame them on bit they're doing everything they can to steer the world away from that it's the Biden Administration that led us to the precipice of world war to begin with so I I wouldn't blame Trump but I do think we need to keep a very close eye on Iran because they are M straight forward I mean they they're there's not slowing down from what we hear they're they're moving forward at at a rapid Pace with the nuclear that's all that that's their final card that's what they have which has to also be mentioned here as we're looking at all of these things uh Benjamin Netanyahu is also becoming of a and he is that is one thing that he will be taken care of by all signs of it before he leaves office you say that with conviction I feel that way I think there's no choice exactly because of what you said meaning it's not enough to take care of Gaza and it's not enough to take care of Judea and Samaria the head of the snake is Iran and if we leave Iran with nuclear capabilities it's just a matter of time until that evil is unleashed the problem is is the axess is growing it's not just Iran anymore right turkey yeah well Russia Russ China China I'm saying that now we're talking about a global war now we're not talking about dealing with Iran anymore and they know that and my concern is so many people are looking at Trump and like they're so excited they're so optimistic they like this guy has it under control some or not under control but great things are happening and they're putting so much belief in faith in Trump that I I have an instinctive aversion to that like let's let's back back down here for a second like we could be headed in another direction also well he said that we talked about it last week but he literally said we were on the verge we still are on the verge you don't know how close we were we don't know how close you like literally we're that close well the biggest thing that we have to mention on this topic is during the same press conference when Trump had his explosive announcement about Gaza a reporter from Israel here from aruch cheva asked him do you support sovereignty in Juda and Samaria let's watch that clip you support Israel soty in Jud and Samaria areas which many believe is the biblical homeland of the Jewish people well we're discussing that with uh many of your representatives you're represented very well and people do like the idea but we we haven't taken a position on it yet but we will be uh we'll be making an announcement probably on that very specific topic over the next four weeks the fact that he said we'll be making an announcement in the next four weeks like that's that's crazy I mean so what do you guys think I mean predictions here are the Trump I mean the American position for decades decades has always been Palestinian State two- State solution like that's the only position that a lot of Americans understand obviously we've started seeing the shift in global thinking but the world's not quite there yet so I don't know what do you guys think I think that how many times can you make the same mistake over and over again meaning it's been decades trying to shove this two-state idea down Israel's throat until it brought Israel to almost destruction I mean we were an existential threat had Iran attacked Galah tried to attack Gaza attacked had Egypt joined in Israel could have been erased it is time to put the two-state solution to rest and I love the way that question was asked Judea and Samaria which is the biblical homeland of the Jewish people now the people that are surrounding president Trump now they really see the world through the eyes of the Bible Through The Eyes Of History not Through The Eyes of like what happened since 1940s or 1930 it's like going all the way back to Jewish history and there is no people more indigenous to a land than the Jews in Judea Jews have been living in Jerusalem longer than French people have been living in Paris Jews have been living in Jerusalem longer than any Americans lived in amer like it's uninterrupted to Temple Times exactly and so that is the truth and if we just align with reality reality 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bulbs please be our prime minister I think Israel is coming around quicker than the rest of the world regarding Judea and Samaria because I could tell you living here being on the deepest settlement in Southeastern Judea so much there were people in Israel like you're the problem is the Jude and Samaria the settlements you're the reason and now they're like thank you we understand now that without you all of Natan ranana the Tel Aviv would be October 7th a thousand times I think the world will soon come to the understanding that Judea and Samaria is the tip of the spear and protecting every human being that doesn't want to live under the Jihad there's one thing that that that I think is interesting on this topic of Jude and Samaria and that is is that I feel like the Trump administration at least in the past saw them uh Gaza and in Samaria as this as a as something they wanted to connect they saw them as the same issue and so I don't know the deal Century actually called for a physical Road between Judea and Gaza so that their mindset is is it the same people same problems and I wonder if it's being shifted if it's not being shifted I could foresee that it's being connected that what will come in four weeks will be connected to what will come also be defined more with Gaza that it could actually all be declared as Sovereign Jewish State now that would be amazing the only reason why that makes me think that is is because uh the other day Trump was sitting at his desk and he pulled out his pen he was talking to a reporter he pulled his pen out and he said you know what this is Israel and he said this is the rest of the AR the Middle East is this whole my whole desk and he put put his pen next to the table there and he's like this is it right to me what that was translated to me was Trump understands that Israel needs to be bigger that's what I thought he was saying I think he understood that Israel is America's strongest Ally in the Middle East the most the most uh uh stabilizing force in the Middle East and it needs to grow just like he would in in like the American dream of being strong and holding on to your territory and if there's an argument that Gaza and Jude and Samaria are a part of Israel historically I can't foresee that he would look at them as the same and there would be Israeli sovereignty declared on both I do feel like that could happen well that's another example of the absolute lie of the quote unquote Palestinian people the Arabs in Gaza have literally nothing to do with the Arabs in Judea and Samaria they're different tribes there different backgrounds there's different dialects in their conversation it's they're not a singular people they are tribes that are nomadic from Arabia and what did they do they kind of wandered around the Middle East and squatted in different places and they happen to be squatting on the Jewish people's ancestral Homeland and now the truth is coming out that if they want to live here with peace with harmony with the Jewish people they're welcome to stay here but if they're not then it's time to relocate them mhm my big question is is is is that going to be different and if it is something different cuz it seems like right now what we're getting is it's going to be two different things everybody's like oh is it going to be sovereignty in Judea and Samaria well from the past they've dealt with the two situations in in the same kind of ideology it would be very interesting for me to to to to wonder if they diff if if they separate the two and it's a Jude and Samar over here and the Gau over here this is going to be our our chopping block for creating peace with the uh Arab neighbors and and expanding the Abraham Accords could do that and also this Jude and Samaria thing is our negotiation between American and and Israel that's going to be I could foresee them saying okay this is going to be a little bit different this is not going to be part of our our negotiating and our deal making to expand Abraham Accords this is going to be we're going to expand Israel and this is like the give to BB I could foresee that I I really could foresee some read this quote I think it it summarizes this very well so the local leaders in Jun sent a letter to netan the day before for his meeting in the white house they said quote Israeli sovereignty is not a luxury but a duty meant to prevent the establishment of an Arab Terror state in the heart of the land and it's part of the absolute Victory complete Israeli sovereignty in Judean Samaria is not only the realization of our natural right in our land but it's also the only way to ensure that the horrors of October 7th will not repeat in aula hadera faraba modin Jerusalem and Beva so um it's G to be interesting I think again it's kind of one of those things you we're going to hope for the best also there's some really amazing players that are on BB's team that are part of this uh our good friend Caroline Glick is one of his closest advisers now um but predictions on what's going to happen in the next four weeks Will trump support the idea of sovereignty in Jud and Samaria which personally I would say would is more would be more Earth shattering than his plan for the US to to rebuild Gaza uh will BB netan support sovereignty uh as well because he's historically flip flopped on that issue and obviously the more important issue is for Israel to support sovereignty not Trump because that like you were saying AR the important thing is for Israel to be so strong and Sovereign obviously we want the United States to support the idea as well but Israel should be strong and do what they need to do um and obviously the big question is will the will the idea of sovereignty be put forward possibly in exchange for any idea of you know normalization with Saudi Arabia which has been for years now has been like for some reason has been uh the the like thing that everybody says is the most important obviously giving up land in the very your very Heartland is not uh more important than any kind of normalization with any other country I I I just foresee that the Israeli team that's on Deck right now the Israeli government team including you know uh with with BB who is flip-flop but he's got a right-wing team on his on his deck right now I can foresee that the Israeli team would be and I almost feel like the bean be that we see that that uh that beaming face that BB's carrying right now in in Washington DC could be connected to BB's it feels like BB has has actually only lean left because of pressure he naturally wanted to be right is my my my perception after reading his book and and and and knowing more about him uh historically I feel like the the Israeli team would accept sovereignty if it was nudged this way from America on our past programs I remember Jeremy once made the analogy of Benjamin Netanyahu to Saul King Saul from that tribe of from The Tribe of Benjamin and saying well there's a certain um finger to the wind listening to his people a vacillation and uh there's a prevalent theory in Israel that BB always goes and appoints leftist uh Ramat Khal the head of the army and leftist people so he can sort of blame them and Outsource the pragmatic International leftist decisions that he's making and say it's about them and not alienate his further right-wing bit and I think that right now BB is looking at the table and he's saying wait a second now I I can actually why is he bringing in Carolyn Glick now why didn't he bring her in before because he sees now is the time where he could actually use her because that her her ideological peers are on the other side too so if that does happen and I certainly hope it does I don't think it's necessarily because of a foundational shift in BB it's because of the the uh ecosystem that we're in right now yeah to answer your question I think that sovereignty and Judean Samaria has never been closer meaning I don't think that we need peace with Saudi Arabia Saudi Arabia needs Israel and America much more than we need Saudi Arabia and so the fact that we've put the Bible or at least we should put the Bible front and center and that really is um the question of the next four weeks can Israel can Caroline gake can all of the people around Trump and nany bring God a little bit more to the Forefront if this remains a topic about Trump in politics instead of actually bringing God to the Forefront the Bible to the Forefront history of what is the true reality of what should be in the Middle East I think that really is the key that will solve all of the problems yeah with your permission I would like to sort of pivot a little bit because I think Jeremy just touched on it right there this is not a uh binary of left or right we're going to lose either way this needs to be a binary of God or no God and I think that that's the conflict that's happening that has been happening deep in the undercurrent and the foundational conflict within Israeli society and that's something I wanted to share because a lot of people don't hear this they don't know this they don't know what's really happening and I just saw an interview of the outgoing Deputy head of the Israeli Army and he was talking about one of the prospective new RADS ofer Vinter and he said not worthy could we play that clip yeah off Vin for [Music] I think that the interviewer was 100% right he nailed it that this yair Golan that was the deputy head of the Israeli Army is part of the Old Guard there is a deep spiritual religious uh Revolution that is happening and what is a revolution essentially going back to the very beginning Revolution goes back to the beginning we are returning to our spiritual Roots as a people of faith in the land of Israel and it is so fundamentally changing the country where soldiers are ripping off all their old patches and what are they putting on the patch about their W their really fighting for which is the temple which is for messiah which is what it's really about and that terrifies people like him and that's the internal conflict that's really happening in the country that's what it's really about can I tell you though something that's really beautiful that was talking about ofer Vinter who was known as a very religious person that was speaking you know in the name of the Torah in the name of God netan has now appointed a new chief of staff and ofer vinder has now been reinstated as a general in the Army so there is not just a change that's happening within the spirit of Israel but fundamentally we're actually changing the leadership now of the IDF and that's exciting right I could go into biblical Source after biblical Source but just you know here's just one of them from Ezekiel chapter 36 for I'll take you from among the Nations and gather you out of all the countries and bring you back to your own land then I will sprinkle clean water upon you and you shall be clean from all your filthiness and from your Idols I will cleanse you and I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you I will remove the Heart of Stone from your flesh and give you a heart of Flesh and I will put my spirit within you and cause you to walk in my statutes and you shall keep my judgments and do them that is what is happening under the headlines on BBC that is what's happening within the nation of Israel and you see this also from people that the the world would say oh it's a secular country they're secular people and they don't understand what's really in the heart of the Jews I want to play this clip of one of the hostage girls at Pi Cohen explaining what her experience was nice you have bed bus in all your body it's very hard to breathe there you don't have hair you can see the sunlight but you know the fact that I believe in God it doesn't say that I will get everything that I want and it doesn't say that I will be happy all the time but it's promised me just one thing that behind everything that happened there is purpose and I just thought about that every time if I need to be in the Tanis I will be in the Tanis and I will try to do the best that I can do you hear that that is what is called Faith does she keep every intricate law of the Sabbath I don't know but that's not what we're talking about here what does the book of Deuteronomy tell us then the Lord your God will bring you into the land which your fathers possessed and you shall possess it and the Lord your God will circumcise your heart and the heart of your descendants to love the Lord your God with all your heart and all all your soul that you may live that is what is happening well what's so beautiful about that is that quote and then you mentioned Ezekiel meaning Israel is going to come back to the land and go through a process we're going to come back and we're going to need a new heart we're going to need a new spirit cuz the founders of Israel are not going to have a heart they're not going to have the spirit of God and then this this process that's happening it's like cracked open our heart but it's opened up our heart for but also like a fish in water this holistic return to God on the deepest emotional spiritual psychological level can only happen within our land the nation of Israel in the land of Israel brings forth this new heart this new circumcised heart well I'll tell you what was so powerful for me because I woke up this week and tahila made pancakes for the kids we were just so excited with the news that we're going to relocate the gin and America will rebuild into a Riviera was just such an exciting concept because we were sort of like with our backs to the Sea and Egypt was running after us just like this week's Torah portion and there was nowhere to run there was just no solution there was no way out of this problem we're stuck with the Kamas in Gaza we're stuck with the gazin in Gaza what are we going to do there is no way out and then all of a sudden the sea split and then there was no way and now there is a way this strengthened my faith so much because when our own human eyes can't see a way God has elected Donald Trump took him down for four years only to allow things to unfold at such a time and in such a place to make a revolution in the land of Israel and in the Middle East and to me we're literally watching something of biblical proportion a splitting of the sea historically this is no less than Cyrus's declaration of like we are going to change things in the Middle East and so I don't know may we um see a beautiful new day and I think that what we just saw there with this girl who is representative to me of what's happening in the hearts of the nation is that whatever is happening God is going to choose the true leader of Israel and raise him up we're going to have the we're going to go through very soon this transition from Saul to David that's exact we're on the precipice of that transition right now I think that's an amazing way to finish 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