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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to
the Israel guys where we believe that in
our world of anti-Israel propaganda and
Jew hatred, you should have a direct
connection to the land and people of
Israel. Um, Judean rabbis, Ari
Abramowitz, Jeremy Gimpel, and of course
Luke as always. This is going to be an
I I'm really looking forward to this.
>> rabbi, just to clarify. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, that's right. Um, this is going to
be an awesome opportunity. I'm really
looking forward to today's uh broadcast
due to the fact that there's so much
darkness in the world. Um, I think it's
all of our intent bring a little bit of
light. And we're going to talk about
some of the things that are happening.
This board of peace is awfully dark in
our in our eyes. Maybe I'm just making
that up. I'm pretty sure that there's
that that represents what we're seeing a
lot of Muslim nations jump on this. What
does this mean? Is this peace when there
is no peace? Is this Jeremiah's words
being fulfilled in actuality before our
eyes? Uh we're going to talk about it
and I think there's going to be some
different sort of opinions uh on these
topics. We're going to talk about the uh
there's a really huge move across
Christianity with some really massive
kind of rocking moments uh through the
Orthodox Christian world of saying uh
replacement theology hardcore coming
across uh right now. We're going to kind
of dissect this a little bit and talk
about uh what is happening across the
globe. We're seeing Jew hatred increase,
radicalized Christianity, if you could
say, actually kind of sprouting up in
different areas. Um, so so much to talk
about here. First off, let's kick it
off. Luke, you've you've got a little
bit of research here on the
uh board of peace and we're seeing some
really concerning nations jumping on
with this that in essence
are going to soon be
or kind of ruling over Israel in some
ways.
Yeah, I think this is really interesting
and I and I know the audience has been
hearing like a lot of rumors and
speculation about the so-called board of
peace for Gaza, right? Well, it's been
like a developing story and I think this
week is the first time we see very
concrete uh facts about what is
happening. Obviously, it's still
developing because
>> [snorts]
>> according to research, Trump has
extended invitations to want to say like
50 or 60 countries to be part of this
board of peace. So, it's much bigger
than people originally thought. Uh
people originally thought this is just
some kind of governance for Gaza, right?
For like rebuilding Gaza and and uh etc.
Now, people are asking Trump, is this
meant to replace the United Nations? And
he's like, "Uh you know, it could it
could I can't do a Trump impersonation.
But it could like I don't I don't think
it will, but it could, you know, cuz
it's going to be the greatest best uh
board ever."
And so, people are realizing like this
could be a lot bigger than than we
originally thought.
>> Yeah. There's rumors about how Trump's
going to if people if if members of the
board give like a billion dollars, then
they can become a permanent member,
maybe they can be the one of the the the
ruling
uh members. Justin was saying before we
started there's actually two boards. One
is actually the governing board and one
is more like an advisory type board. Uh
and maybe if you invest a billion
dollars, which Putin just came out and
said Russia's willing to invest a
billion dollars into this board of
peace, uh then then you could be one of
the decision makers. But so, uh I want
to just run through real quick uh
confirmed acceptances and you could tell
me what like what what what do you uh
Well, here's what I think immediately.
I'm like, "Well, I think there's been
over a million people killed in the
Russian war that's lasted now for
years."
>> yeah. And now they're being invited to
be on the board of peace? They just got
to pay a billion dollars? What is it, a
country club? If you pay your punt your
your membership, you get to join?
>> Uh it's it's also just so cynical. It's
so cynical. There isn't one member on
this board of peace that is deluding
themselves. Everybody knows it's a
charade that everybody's playing. Nobody
thinks this is about peace.
>> of the European countries have rejected
Trump's invitation. But listen to this
list of confirmed acceptances
uh and tell me what what is the theme
running through here. Argentina,
Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Belarus,
Egypt, Hungary, Indonesia, Jordan,
Kazakhstan, Kosovo, Morocco, Pakistan,
Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, UAE,
Uzbekistan, Vietnam. Muslim.
Like that's a bunch of Muslims. Are we
talking like Western world, United
States and Canada, and you know,
England, or like what what is weird
about this? Like something is really
strange here. So so my thoughts are it's
a little complex. On the one hand, it's
like it's not a board of peace. It's a
board of pieces.
Right? That are being cynically arranged
in order to cloaked in this language of
healing and peace, but it's really just
deception and evil and sickness. On the
other hand, it's a board of pieces that
on the deeper level, we know that God is
arranging these pieces very carefully.
Nothing arbitrary is happening here. God
is arranging the pieces that it will
eventually ultimately bring a bring
about true peace. I do believe so. This
is
arranging the pieces to bring about
redemption and true peace, even though
none of their intention is actually
about that. I mean, Russia putting a
billion dollar dollars in to rebuild
Qatar, Turkey. What are we even talking
about here? But we know where this is
ultimately going. You started the show
by saying, you know, we want to bring
some light. The only light that there is
to bring now, the only optimism about
the world you know, I mean, it's true
that Russia is talking about nuking
Germany and England. Like we're talking
about an entire world that is a
tinderbox waiting to explode and erupt
in a dystopian nuclear holocaust. Where
is the light here? The only true light
is God. Is the Torah. Is the word of
God. Is the Bible. And that's what we're
here to bring, that deeper dimension
that is the only real true dimension.
Well, here's what I think is happening
because we're tasked with that mission
of bringing the light of the Torah from
Zion to the world and unite the world
under that banner in in that light. If
we don't do that, then all of a sudden
the enemies are going to unite around us
for the exact opposite. It's like
measure for measure. If we don't do what
we need to do, it will be done against
us. I like what you said earlier,
Jeremy, about before we move on past
this point. I don't want to miss it
because uh Putin like you know, to be
the one of the senior, say, members
because he's got a lot of money to give
on this board of peace. Um I don't want
to miss this cuz this clip that him
actually saying, "We may be able to give
a million dollars to this thing." I just
think that this this kind of a billion,
sorry. Yeah, yeah. A billion dollars to
this thing. It's just it's so like um
maybe just enlightening to what this
actually is. I just want to see this
clip really quickly of him in his own
words uh through translator saying this.
I think that we could contribute 1
billion dollars
to the board of peace from the frozen
assets by the
assets frozen by the previous
administration and the remaining funds
from the funds frozen in the
United States could be used to rebuild
territories that suffered
uh during hostilities once we sign a
peace deal between Russia and Ukraine.
This is so I just seems so um I don't
know, confusing. Like you said, Jeremy,
this they they've got a what how many
people how many casualties? I mean, this
is a massive war, the biggest war that I
know about going on in the world right
now uh needs to be on this board of
peace. The ones the ones actually
perpetrating the the most uh war and and
death on the planet are now going to be
like leaders on this board of peace. It
just seems doesn't seem quite uh The
prophecy that popped into my mind was
actually from the book of Jeremiah. But
you said, "Are we seeing the words of
Jeremiah coming to be?" What what verse
were you talking about in Jeremiah? I'm
wondering if we're both thinking of the
same prophecy here. Well, that they
would yell peace, peace and there is no
peace. Is that That That's what I was
thinking.
>> That's exactly it. And so, let me just
read the actual words here. They have
healed the wound of my people lightly
saying, "Peace, peace where there is no
peace." So, you have to understand in
Hebrew the word is "Vayirp'u et shever
ami al nakhlah." Now, a shever, you have
to understand, is not a it's not a
scrape. It's a deep wound. It's like a
foundational fracture, right? And that's
what Israel has suffered on October 23rd
and even since, the devastation, the
families broken, the limbs ripped off,
the psychological PTSD, the trauma is
deep and the world is coming and saying,
"Peace, peace." It's almost like um
cosmetic and dismissive and like just a
cynical joke and they're saying peace.
It's like treating a an open
vital wound and just putting a band-aid
on it. And but what we know what is like
it's almost like someone breaks into
your house, hacks off your legs, and
then they take you to the hospital and
the doctor is that guy with the machete
in his hand. That's what it is. Like
Qatar is going to come in. They funded
Hamas. And they're going to come in and
and and and bring peace. Right? And so,
what what we know what is true peace?
Only God is able to bring true peace.
Right? It says in Psalms. It's
throughout all of the Bible, all of
Psalms, it always says um great peace
have those who love your Torah. Nothing
causes them to stumble. Right? Even
Gideon called his uh the the altar. He
called it uh God is peace. Are we God is
wholeness. It's peace. The work of the
righteousness will be peace. The effect
of righteousness, tranquility and
security forever. That's peace. Not evil
coming together in this cynical twisted
darkness. Mhm. Well, I was just thinking
about you have the actual, you know,
people know about um you know, the Arab
Qatar connection. But that you know, the
one there's ones that are behind the
veil of like, you know, Turkey and Egypt
and these ones, Saudi Arabia, the ones
that are kind of like they're in the
Muslim uh they're they're a part of the
agenda, I guess you could say. Uh but
less frontline. Like people could hide
they're hiding behind kind of this mask.
And we talked about that last week. And
I think that becoming a part of this
board of peace for those of us that
understand that there's just a big mask
covering this is is highly concerning to
me. I want to break down uh
what the board of peace looks like
because it's starting to come out now.
And this is where it's gets a little
scary cuz again, it's not just about
rebuilding Gaza, right? Which is
initially that that's what they're
saying is roles and functions when
include supervising Gaza's
reconstruction and redevelopment,
supporting lawful governance and civil
administration capacity building,
mobilizing capital and international
resources for reconstruction, oversight
for long-term stability, peacebuilding,
working along related structures like
the Palestinian technocratic
administration and international
stabilization force, whatever that is,
which
the only thing we know it is is a pipe
dream. Um There's literally not one word
in that that whole slew of words you
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There's no such thing as Palestinian.
Correct. There's no such nation, there's
no such people. Stabilization people The
whole thing is one
>> There's no peace.
>> Literally. Literally. It's So that's
that's one side. Then the other side is
where it gets even more scary cuz
reports are now indicating broad
ambitions beyond Gaza. And this is why
reporters are asking Trump, are you
trying to replace the UN, right? He cuz
Trump has suggested the board could
evolve into a global conflict mediation
body. Look, I just say one second. the
role of the UN Security Council.
>> that Trump just just happened to pull
out of all the UN
related, you know, functions right
before he kind of like really froze this
board of peace to like the next level? I
mean, I think people are onto something.
So What's what's going to happen once
Trump leaves office? I mean, he's got
He's got a few years left, and then what
is it up with up to chance? And we're
like aligning all of these enemies of
Israel together inside our borders with
who's the head of this new organization?
>> I honestly don't think we're going to
get there. That question is not even
relevant to me. I'd be interested to
know are the people that are listening
to this program, how many people agree
with me that we're in such a critical
place in world history that we're so on
the verge of global nuclear breakout or
at least nuclear war that to think
what's going to happen it's it's already
so far ahead. So many variables are
going to play out that even speculating
about that is not even relevant.
>> you don't think we
>> it. We're [clears throat] in it now. You
don't think we have three more years
left to civilization, you're saying? I
wouldn't say civilization. I would say
the current global paradigm is not going
to be the same at the end of his term.
That's what I'm saying. I don't know
what that's going to look like. I think
it's going to be much better. I think
it's going to be much better. There's
going to be tremendous light. Trump is
going to be the ultimate
I hate to say dictator. He's going to
ultimate authority on this board of
peace. So in three years, who knows? I
mean, he is like 80 80 years old, but
>> Yeah, I think he's like this is my final
He could just decide to stick around,
I'm saying. I see things all the time. I
mean Mahmoud Abbas is like 90 and he's
still in power, so Right.
>> it's possible. Yeah, a third term I just
saw him standing there with a map of the
of North America. Canada has American
flags all over it. Greenland has
American Things that you would think are
either satire or artificial intelligence
are actually true.
Right? We're hearing things that are so
absurd that we would never hear coming
out of normative mainstream Overton
window discussion and it's just
>> the Babylon Bee has like a wall of
of satire articles they wrote that later
came true. It's basically that.
>> Yes. It's like you would never expect
it. Um but this is kind of my analysis.
I'm curious to hear what you guys think.
I mean, you referenced it, Jeremy, but
basically this board of peace was a it
was a pipe dream, right? For months and
months and months and months, but now
it's like it's actively forming. You've
got like 20 countries who have said,
yes, we will be on the board. Countries
are saying, yes, we'll give a billion
dollars. Although the apparently Trump's
administration is not They're kind of
like
Nobody knows if that's actually true.
But countries are saying they'll give
four
>> the money to? Who are they giving it to?
That's That's nobody knows. Trump
apparently. [laughter]
Trump's the ultimate authority on this
board.
But like you're saying, we now have
20-plus countries, majority Muslim,
uh a bunch of them apparently prepared
to give billions of dollars to this
entity, whatever it is, who will then at
some point in the future not too far
distant be figuratively sitting in the
Holy Land and and governing in Israel
inside Israel because it starts with
Gaza, but Trump's saying this could be a
a global conflict mediation entity. My
question is because most of these
countries hate Israel and the Jewish
people. So my question is, what happens
when they decide to move past Gaza
because part of this whole thing is like
the Palestinian technocratic whatever.
What happens when they decide to create
a Palestinian state or decide we're
going to carve up the the Holy Land and
give some of it to the Arabs, give some
of it over here? Which is Netanyahu has
now said he's joining the board of
peace. So it's like if Israel's part of
it, like Do we at least get a discount?
>> what point
At what point will the Israeli
government not even have the power to
say no? Well, we're giving it away.
That's what's It's not being taken from
us. We're literally just giving it away.
And you know, there's people like
they're questioning, are Israel the
chosen people? Is Israel the chosen
land? And it's amazing to just see the
reality that the entire world right now
is aligning itself around this chosen
people and this chosen land. World
history's on the Yeah, there's a million
people that are being killed in Russia
and Ukraine. All right, one of you
sides, you can join this also. Right
now, our whole focus is on this little
land in the center of it all. It's just
a reality that God's plan has chosen a
place to unfold and it is right here.
>> Yeah, you hear genocide genocide
genocide. Meanwhile, and I'm listening
to Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens, I'm
like, are they going to say anything
about the Iranian? Tucker Carlson
totally silent. Candace Owens saying the
whole thing is a lie, it's a Mossad op.
Nobody actually is willing to condemn
anything other than Israel. And what's
the idea? The truth is that Israel has
gone above and beyond any other nation
in preventing civilian casualties and
we're being accused of genocide. And I'm
starting to see a pattern here. A deep
deep pattern that if we don't take
responsibility as a nation, the void
that we leave is going to be fulfilled
in the mirror opposite of the
[clears throat] illusion of those very
things. If we don't bring true peace to
the world, then it's going to be filled
with this darkness. If we don't bring
true unity, then the only thing that can
bring true unity is the recognition that
the one God of the world, the God of
Israel, has created all of mankind and
that's our prayer. If we don't do that,
then what are we going to see?
>> [clears throat]
>> Nick Fuentes and Kanye West and Andrew
Tate going to nightclubs singing and
dancing together. A black guy, a
neo-Nazi,
a Muslim, we're bringing the whole world
together. What is the only thing that
brings together all of these disparate
haters? Is their hate for Israel and the
Jewish people. If we don't bring the
world together proactively through light
and love and truth and Bible, they're
going to come together against us in
this deep subconscious spiritual
resentment that we're not rising to the
occasion.
>> Well, I would want to add to that that
it's not just a matter about bringing
God and light into the world, it's also
about eviscerating the evil. We had two
opportunities. We could have absolutely
destroyed Hamas. We had them on their
knees and we were asked, no for the
hostages, no for this deal, no just
stop. Words out. Now their police
officers are being offered to be the
officers of police that are going to be
in Gaza.
>> That's right. We knew this from just
right now.
>> Yeah, we had the Ayatollah on their
knees. We could have taken them out and
then we didn't and now what's unfolding
in Iran. If we don't finish the job and
actually do what we're called to do,
which is to banish the darkness by
bringing light, then we're going to be
overwhelmed with darkness and that's
what's happening right now. Josh, do you
have the details on that story? I think
that I think it's important to to
highlight that. Yeah. Yeah. Well, just
the fact that that
I I don't even know who's who's
responsible, but it's I assume it's some
connection to this board of peace as
it's developing. At least America is
saying that the former Hamas member
policemen, which is just stupid to me.
Not Hamas police, terrorists. Yeah,
they're terrorists. Um are now going to
be vetted and go through a process of
like um
Now after they go through this thing,
we're going to check them out a little
bit. We're going to send them through in
a US um a process and then an Israeli
process just to make sure that they're
going to be served well. Make sure that
they've kind of like forgotten their
terrorism. They're going to be Yeah,
they're going to be a part of the
>> force and security force in the new They
just need a little education to rebuild
Gaza. Right. We don't need to disarm the
Hamas. Now we just kind of let them have
their guns and we'll rebrand them. After
they go through the board of peace,
they'll go through Pakistan, they'll go
through Egypt, and they'll let them
decide. And if they're like vetted
properly, then they get to come and they
get to run their own Hamas with guns.
>> Yeah, and is this not exactly what we
did with with the Oslo Accords? We did
the exactly the same thing. America came
in. They offered these broker deals and
they said, "Hey, listen, these guys are
not so bad. They just need a little
education. We're going to send American
trainers in and we're going to train
these guys how to be policeman, you
know, like like good policeman and
they're going to do their job because we
believe in these people." Um the Oslo
Accords are clear and we've brought this
up before. That did not work. When they
handed these terrorists guns and trained
them how to be policeman, do you think
that they became good like uh civil
servants to the to the agenda of America
and Israel to bring peace on their
streets? Absolutely not. That is not
what happened. They got trained on how
to better commit their atrocities across
all of Israel and kill Jews. And to
think that that will not happen in Gaza
is absolutely um mindless. It's it's
idiotic in its deepest way and it's
actually suicidal to the nation of
Israel.
>> generous take on Oslo and this whole
thing is Western nations projecting
their over fixation on materialism on
the rest of the world and saying, "All
the people want is material wealth and
goodness." And then you see the jihadist
world and they're like, "No, you give us
billions of dollars, we're going to just
invest it in murdering every single last
Jew because that is the jihad and that
is our spiritual commitment." Right? So,
it's it's what happens when you take
Western arrogance and the projection of
materialism and you put it on this
entire jihadist world, then you get Oslo
and it creates more blood. And we don't
need to have all the psychological
understanding. We just look in the
Bible. Do not create a covenant with
them.
>> Right. They will be thorns in your eyes.
Don't do it. But the Bible says even
more than that. It doesn't say don't
make a covenant only with the enemies of
Israel. It says don't rely on
superpowers. Don't rely on Egypt. Don't
rely on Assyria. Don't rely on President
Trump. Right now, Ambassador Huckabee
just came out saying that the American
plan is to not have any Jewish
settlements in Gaza.
>> That's right. When we were talking about
Mar-a-Lago, it's going to be Gaza El
Largo. We're going to make it's going to
be America. We're going to be able to
grow there. We're going to Amazon's
going to be really cheap in Israel.
We're going to have an alliance. It's
going to be Jewish settlements. We're
going to rebuild it. And now a board of
peace that's being run by Pakistan and
Egypt are going to be running the
situation in Gaza and developing the
policies there. Uh but Trump is in
charge. And in a few years, even though
you're saying it's not going to last
that long, but I'd like to think a
little bit down the road,
who is going to be in charge then?
Kamala Harris number two?
>> I'll tell you who I think is going to be
in charge. I don't know if you saw this
video, but there are Jews that are going
into Gaza in the under the cover of
night and planting trees. People would
say, "Don't put this on. It'll make you
guys look like extremists." And I'm not
into that. Can I play the video?
>> Yeah, let's play the video.
All right, for our listeners, those
listening and those who don't speak
Hebrew, just explain what what's going
on in this video.
>> So, they said they said, "Here we are in
Gaza and thanks to the Israel guys,
we're able to come
>> [laughter]
>> No, they start off with a blessing. They
said, "Thank Blessed are you Lord our
God, King of the universe, who has
allowed us to live and sustained us
until this very moment." Which is
something that you say during a moment
of
significance in your journey. So, they
blessed they start off by blessing God.
And of course, what are they doing? What
are our enemies do? Death, darkness.
They're planting. They're planting
trees.
>> Those are our radicals. Those are the
most radical. The most radical people,
what are they doing? They're planting
trees.
>> and they're saying, "Please God, this
should be the beginning of Jewish
settlement of Gaza." And that's the you
know, I also we were talking about the
world says well, if we don't do our
thing, the world says You know, they're
saying Argentina
This is a big massive conspiracy theory
that Israel started the forest fires in
Argentina in order to establish a Jewish
state in Argentina. Now, we can laugh
about that.
No, but it's actually taking real
momentum. People are really really
believing this.
>> on Candace Owens or Yeah, and Candace
Owens what what did Candace say? She
said, "Oh, you know, the there's not
actually the regime in Iran isn't
actually killing its own people. It's a
Mossad op and their real purpose is to
establish
>> wants the land.
>> Baby wants the Jewish state the state of
Israel to also to have Iran. Which isn't
even connected on
Even addressing that is so absurd and
crazy. We've had so many opportunities.
If we were actually an imperialist
nation, which arguably we should be, not
about not for the whole world, but just
for our land, just for our land promised
to us in the Bible, we could have gone
in and
taken hold of the portion of Syria that
is actually the state of Israel. It
should be. But we're not. So, we're
going to be accused of doing the very
thing that we should be doing that we're
not. Again and again and again. It's all
about taking responsibility. And we need
to take responsibility as a nation as a
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>> Just the same people that were convinced
that we were massacring babies in Gaza
are now convinced that there's no one
being killed with the regime in Iran.
It's like unbelievable. Like lies look
like truths and truths look like lies.
We If you don't see that we are prophecy
unfolding and that all of us are somehow
participating in it. And what is the one
thing that will align us, that will keep
our heads on straight? It is the Torah.
It is the Bible. It's the only way to
make any sense out of all of the lies
that are around us. If it doesn't align
with the Bible, it's not going to be
true. And that's why by the way, the
Bible itself is under attack now. And
who is it being under attack by? By the
Orthodox Church. They're saying, "No,
that's Old Testament. That's not
relevant. That's been replaced. It's not
really true. The people of Israel are
not the people of Israel. The land of
Israel is not really the land of Israel.
That was all spiritualized. That was all
fulfilled." And they're actually saying
that the Bible itself isn't true.
Reality isn't connected to the Bible.
Somehow disconnecting the two is like
severing a head from its body, taking
its soul out of its body. Well, we can
disagree with you know, Mike Huckabee
about what he said about Gaza. I don't
mind forgiving him on that. Like we can
only expect our
you know, our our friends to be as
strident as we ourselves are.
>> He's also just exclaiming what the
American policy is right now.
>> did say something very powerful. You
know, he was uh referring to Genesis
chapter 17. And I will establish my
covenant between me and you and your
descendants after you throughout their
generations for an everlasting covenant.
He said, "You can call us." I'm just
summarizing what he said in the message.
One of the points he made was you could
call me a Christian Zionist, but it's
not really. It's just Christianity.
Right? We actually believe in the word
of God. And he makes a covenant with his
people and he keeps his covenant. And if
we're saying that he didn't keep his
covenant with his own people, what makes
him think what makes us think he'll keep
his covenant with us? Right. Right?
Either the God of the world, the God of
Israel is true to his word or he's not
and he's a liar. And that's what this
really comes down to. Which is why it's
so interesting to me to hear all of
these Christians who I don't think are
haters of Israel and the Jewish people.
Michael Knowles, he's he made a big stir
with his with his comments that are
worth looking at as the coming from
someone that is not a hater of Israel
and the Jewish people. Well, I think
this all actually comes from this new
thing that was just posted by the
>> this up a little bit before cuz I think
it
this is a big story and because so many
people in America and around the world
are debating the idea of Christian
Zionism or Zionism at all, I think it
bears looking into a little bit. So,
there I won't read the statement, but
there's a statement that came out from
the patriarchs and heads of the churches
in Jerusalem who I have no idea who that
is because
there's most Christians around the world
are not connected at all to the
patriarchs and heads of the churches in
Jerusalem.
It's a statement from the patriarchs and
head blah blah blah of Jerusalem on
unity and representation of the
Christian Christian communities in the
Holy Land. And basically, I when I read
it, it like it's not even like you'd
fall asleep like reading this. I don't
even hardly understand it. But
basically, they're addressing Christian
Zionism and they're saying Christian
Zionism is misleading the public, sowing
confusion, and harming the unity of the
flock of the the Christian flock in the
Holy Land or whatever. Um and then it
I'll just read this one line. It says,
"These undertakings have found favor
among certain political actors in Israel
and beyond who seek to push a political
agenda which may harm the Christian
presence in the Holy Land and the wider
Middle East." And then they just launch
into replacement theology. Basically
saying that the church has has replaced
Israel
and Christian Zionism is not represented
from the Bible or Christianity at all.
Blah blah blah. Which is so interesting
that you have
the churches of Jerusalem trying to
represent the Christian communities in
Israel blasting out to the entire world
that
the church has replaced Israel. Right.
So fascinating that that's happening
inside of Israel. Well, I just want to
bring a little bit of something behind
the scenes here that could actually be
unfolding as well. Like this piece of
information has gone viral. Everybody
around the world is talking about it.
Oh, the the heads of the church in
Jerusalem have sent out this thing. It's
like this they're going they're trying
to mimic something. Well, here's what's
fascinating is is that
>> just on the viral piece, like this
shouldn't be viral because
all of the Christians I know,
every single Christian I know have never
even even heard of the the patriarchs
and head of the churches in Jerusalem.
It's not connected to the majority of
Christianity at all.
>> Well, here's what's fascinating is is
that this actually looks like a little
bit of a a little bit of bot work if you
could say so by the Russian side.
There's a little bit of internal things
with Christianity in in these heads
where they're trying to actually bring
some
uh aligning and this actually came from
another source, looks like Russian
source, that actually wants to keep that
from happening and there's more that
that behind the scenes of this. But it
just in short, it looks like we have
some actually some since this was posted
on a on account that would had no view
it was it was not a big account and
somehow it went completely viral, you
know, very unnatural um
crazy viral piece here. So, there's
something behind the
on here and it's trying to and this I
think it's at the bottom of everything
we're talking about. There's an attempt
to bring Christianity back to a crusader
like mentality that says Jerusalem is
not the Jews because if you can get rid
of the Jewish connection. Mike Huckabee
had a great presentation back and that's
what you were quoting. He was saying,
"No,
the foundation, it's Abraham, Isaac, and
Jacob. Can I read a couple of the quotes
from Huckabee cuz it's really amazing.
Um
He says, "Personally, I'm and it's it's
a direct response to the the statement
from the patriarchs and heads of the
church or whatever. He says,
"Personally, I'm part of a global and
growing evangelical tradition that
believes the authority of scripture and
the faithfulness of God in keeping his
covenants. That includes his covenant
with Abraham and the Jewish people. My
Christian faith is built on the
foundation of Judaism and without it,
Christianity would not exist.
Those are those are all the Christians
that we know. Yeah.
>> And that is so much I mean, obviously,
there's division in Christianity.
There's 44,000 denominations or
something like that. And so, yes, there
is a split. But there is a massive
millions of millions of Christians that
believe that God made a covenant with
Abraham and the Jewish people in the
land of Israel and that covenant cannot
be broken. He's he goes on and says, "If
God can or would break his covenant with
the Jews, then what hope would
Christians have that he'd keep his
covenant with us?" That has always been
exactly my question because Christianity
uh like what Christianity has done in
the name of God and and the Christianity
embrace of paganism, like we can't even
get into it. Like God should have
forsaken his covenant with Christianity
if
you know, he could forsake his covenant
with the Jewish people, too. Um so, I
mean, obviously, that's that's from like
you know, our our understanding. But
it's just it's it's
>> Here's what I'm concerned about, Luke,
is the Michael Knowles took this on
and he's trying to you know, he says
he's pro-Israel and I want to watch this
clip cuz it's it's it's pretty can
actually concerning. Not that I'm
concerned about Michael Knowles
necessarily, I'm concerned about what
people will think when they view this
cuz they're going to take it the next
step further and that's what I'm this is
what I'm concerned about. This whole
conversation could be awakening a
serious pogrom like version back a
thousand years. It could take
Christianity back a thousand years like
that, boom, by these kind of things. I
don't think that's what Michael Knowles
is intending, but this is the fact and
I'll get into it in just a minute, but
watch his take on what the church of
Jerusalem has put out and how I believe
this is this can really be taken off the
rails quickly and we need to be watching
this. This is why I would not call
myself a Zionist uh or a Christian
Zionist or any other kind of Zionist. Uh
it's not because I don't like the Jews
and it's not because I don't even
support the state of Israel. As I think
I've made clear, I am broadly supportive
of the nation-state of Israel. But I am
broadly supportive of it not because I
believe in the principles of Zionism,
which makes certain historical claims
and religious claims that I just don't
think are true.
I don't think that uh
the the Jews are entitled to the Holy
Land because of some religious premise.
I don't think that's true. In fact,
being Christian, I believe that the Old
Testament is fulfilled in the New
Testament. Christ is the new covenant,
the fulfillment, the you know,
everything that was typified in the Old
Testament is fulfilled in Christ and the
church as the new and spiritual Israel.
So, I don't buy those religious premises
and I don't believe just because a
people was on a
on a plot of dirt 2,000 years ago that
that means they're entitled to it today.
If that were the case, we'd have to turn
the Black Hills of you know, we'd have
to turn Mount Rushmore over to the
Lakota Sioux. I don't believe any of
that. And yet,
I am broadly supportive of the
nation-state of Israel because I don't
like the alternatives. I don't
[laughter] I don't like the idea of
giving Iran more power in the Holy Land.
I don't think the Muslims have been
particularly protective of the holy
sites. Sometimes they've been better
than others, but the Ottoman Empire
doesn't exist anymore. The the uh
current options in the Holy Land are not
great and we're not probably not
reestablishing Baldwin's kingdom anytime
soon. Here's the most concerning part of
the whole thing. We're probably not
establishing Baldwin's king kingdom
anymore.
Did you hear that? That's what's
concerning. I know he probably wasn't
meaning
what that means, but you do know who
Baldwin is. I didn't know who Baldwin
was. I'm not too connected to it. Most
Christians don't know who he is, but he
was the leader, the king of the
Crusades, the first Crusades. Do you
know what the first Crusades were? They
were the ones that burned and pillaged
Jews all the way to the Holy Land
because they were the new Jew. What did
the Jews got it forsaken the Jews? This
was the
antithesis of of of of everything what
God This is it's evil in everything. But
let me tell you what they did. They got
to Jerusalem and what they do?
Ran Jews ran for their lives into the
synagogues. This is This is documented
what happened and they burned the
synagogue down on their on killing
everyone. This
is what that represents.
We're probably not going to be doing
that. Do you think that's a nice thing
to say? Right. So, I think that he said
that out of ignorance. He was focusing
really on the I I would say the the
Christian Jihad. He's talking about
spreading Christianity through the
world. He was focusing on that dimension
of the Crusades. I think clearly he's
not focusing on the
bloody violent element of it, but we we
can't just forgive that. Okay? Because
you don't say something like that. I
remember hearing Tucker Carlson a long
time ago. He was talking about Hiroshima
and Nagasaki, how America was
fundamentally immoral with doing that.
Why? Because it's killing people and
killing people is against his religion.
Forget the fact put to the side that
there's a great argument to make that
millions of lives were saved by those
nuclear by by the atomic weapons. But
the irony of Tucker Carlson almost every
show talking about it's against my
religion. The reason I'm against
anti-Semitism, it's against my religion.
We were against Christianity to kill
people. The Crusades Jews today in
Israel
Sephardic and Ashkenazic Jews have this
conversation.
It was better to be under the oppressive
Muslim rule in Yemen, Algeria, Morocco
by far than in Europe and under
Christian rule by far because of the
vicious horrific nature of just life
under Christianity. Not not not you
guys, obviously, but I'm talking about
of the Crusades. So, what
I just want to read just This is Inspire
Worms means just to understand.
Jews were dragged from their homes,
beaten, mutilated, murdered publicly.
Women were raped before execution.
Infants were smashed against walls and
thrown into rivers. Torah scrolls were
ripped apart and burned in the streets.
Survivors were offered a choice, baptism
or death. What does that sound like?
Does that sound a little bit like
October 7th? Yeah. Does that sound a
little bit like the Jihad? When you turn
against God, then there's a convergence
of all evil and darkness in the world.
And so, we're going back to this the the
Crusades and just the irony and the the
hypocrisy of this moral virtuousness.
When really, what did the Crusades do?
It took the darkest, most evil impulses
of man and transformed it into a virtue.
Exactly what the Jihad does. Right? It's
an act of worship. The more vicious and
horrific they are to the Jews, it's an
act of of worship. Right? And so,
>> Well, they convinced themselves that
this was the best way to honor God. That
that it was absolutely delusional and
and opposite of God, but they convinced
themselves, just like the Jihad, they
believe that this is the best way they
can honor their understanding of who God
is and how they can serve him best.
That's exactly what the Crusade did and
God forbid
that this statement would come up come
in any way possibly. I don't think we'll
possibly see the days.
You know, is that what is that what he's
saying in the show? That this could what
Christianity could be restored to its
ancient glories.
>> I have a different take on what Michael
Knowles said.
Um And two two facets. Two facets.
[laughter]
Uh one, I think he's trying to
popularize the idea that you can support
Israel without supporting Israel from a
biblical perspective because he does not
want to be seen as another Nick Fuentes
uh and Candace Owens. He He's saying,
"Christian Zionism is not okay. It's an
antithesis to Christianity." Whatever,
but you could support Israel because
they're a much better option than Iran
ruling Israel or Hamas or whatever.
Uh my question is, like is that even
okay? And uh I just realized that part
of what Mike Huckabee said encapsulates
this really well. He says, quote, and in
in his response uh to the the
patriarchs, he says, "It's hard for me
to understand why everyone who takes on
the moniker Christian would not also be
a Zionist. It's not a commitment to a
particular government or government
policy, but to the biblical revelation
as given to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
I I mean, I'm in I'm in full alignment
with Mike Huckabee here. You can't I
believe you cannot be
a biblically based Christian without
being a Zionist. Right. And if you are,
it's there's something that feels feeble
and flimsy and fragile about that.
Right,
I'm married. Why does that marriage mean
something to me to the degree where
under, you know, all sorts of different
impulses that could be pulling me in
different directions, I will remain with
pure fidelity to my wife because the
marriage is under God. Right? It is a
biblical It's a biblical covenant.
Unless you have a biblical God
connection, then the minute the heat is
turned up, the minute the consequences
for standing with Israel become too
great, then you could just explain it
away and rationalize it to yourself the
same way Pharaoh rationalized everything
to himself. Oh, this is just nature and
this is just unless you believe that
there's an actual biblical God covenant.
And that needs to be based on truth,
which is why I don't think Knowles meant
bad when he said this thing about the
But he he he needs it is his
responsibility to dig deeper and to dive
in and really understand what he's
saying and do his research, which I
don't think he's doing, about the
gravity of what the words that just came
out of his mouth.
>> Well, maybe this is an example of what
you're saying. You're saying our support
for Israel and the Jewish people needs
to be based in something much stronger
than Israel is a much better option than
Iran. Because [snorts] what happens when
this board of peace gets
instated with a a Palestinian
technocratic government or whatever, and
then one day all of a sudden the world
decides, like the Michael Knowles and
his followers decide, you know what? I
think this Palestinian technocratic
government committee, whatever, is a
better option than Israel ruling the
Holy Land. All right,
Israel out and the the the reformed
Hamas members that have been vetted by
US security and and are the new police
force take over Gaza, Judea and Samaria,
the Golan Heights, Syria, whatever, you
know, whatever it is. Because it's
because their support for Israel is is
so flimsy. Exactly what you're saying.
>> Or taking the next step, what if Steve
Bannon and Michael Knowles and these
guys get a little bit more popular in
their idea and Christians actually begin
to think that Jerusalem is actually
theirs.
And that they should liberate it from
the hands of the of the Jews because the
Jews in their belief are not God's
chosen people anymore and they're
desecrating the the holiness of
Jerusalem. That's what they thought a
thousand years ago and that's what's
actually coming back right now.
>> And it's the logical conclusion of this
nation to that faith, exactly.
>> Well, I would say there's going to be
measure for measure. Yeah. And if
they're saying that the Jews have been
replaced, what is the greatest threat to
Europe today? What is the greatest
threat to America today? It's another
replacement theology. The jihad says
they're the new chosen people.
>> I'm saying. That's the It's like 3.0.
>> So just if they've pushed away Israel,
they will be pushed away and the enemy
will come against them. But I really
feel like it's incumbent upon us to
share the truth, meaning if we open up
to the Bible. It says like this in
Leviticus chapter 26.
The people of Israel will be in the land
and if we don't keep the covenant with
God, he's going to scatter us around the
world and we're going to suffer in
exile. And it says, "And yet when
they'll be in the land of their enemies,
I will not cast them away, nor will I
destroy them or break my covenant with
them. For I am Hashem their God, I will
remember for them the covenant of the
ancients."
It's like even when they're in the
exile, an eternal covenant is an eternal
covenant. And then the Bible says not
one time, over and over again in every
prophecy, those same people one day are
going to return to the land of Israel.
So it's not like a verse here or It is
like, do you believe in the Bible or
not? If you believe in the Bible, you
must stand with the Jewish people in the
land of Israel, period. And if you
don't, there will be measure for measure
judgment. And as we see as Europe has
turned away from God, the enemy is now
taking over. The number one name being
born in England now is Muhammad. That is
the most popular name. There are now We
just had a a family from Sweden come and
visit us here. There dozens of no-go
zones in Sweden. They're just being
slowly but surely taken over and as they
turn away from God, it won't be a
vacuum, they will be filled by the
enemy. And that's what we're saying.
Yeah, I think um
Yeah, I think it's just crazy what what
we're talking about, like that we could
actually be at this point. And I think
we've talked about it before because,
you know, Zechariah 14 prophecy talks
about one day all nations will go up
again and fight against Jerusalem. And
in our modern day times, you know, we we
like to take the Bible very literally
and so you just imagine like millions of
armies of the world going up against
Jerusalem. But then it talks about there
there are people left after that, like
there is there's a God's kingdom is
established. So
in our modern day world, we always
wonder like how could that actually
happen? What does that look like? And I
know there's been various like ideas and
interpretations of that, you know,
people think, oh, maybe it's the UN
voting the the Security Council voting
and nobody vetoes it, right? Against
Jerusalem.
The board of peace seems like another
like idea of how this I'm not I'm not
saying it will will play out like this
cuz
the question is how far is the board of
peace actually going to get? But it's
another example of like how Zechariah 14
could be played out of all nations going
up and fighting against Jerusalem.
Because right now the United States, the
Trump administration is going to be the
head and the ultimate authority of this
board of peace. And according to Trump,
whatever they say for Gaza and beyond is
going to go. And if Israel's a full
member, if Bibi Netanyahu is a member of
this committee and then you have 18
other Muslim, anti-Israel, anti-Jewish
members,
what could happen? Like anything could
happen. One other thought back to
Jeremy's point was is that I think we we
have three more years before you know, a
lot's going to change within these three
years, but I want everybody to watch
this. This is what's happening in
America and just imagine what it means
once this I think Islam is the fastest
growing religion in America from what I
understand. Um what happens when this
this kind of rapid
just
covering of of Islam that's going on in
America comes to this point where
somebody can be in America and say these
words without really having any There's
no no repercussions to this. Watch Watch
this and then tell me if you're not
concerned about what's coming. As a
Muslim, my response to all of this is do
your worst. I am not afraid.
Because even if this body is broken, the
spirit inside of it you cannot reach.
And it will continue and Allah will
replace you. Whether I see that or not
is irrelevant.
But I'm not afraid. I'm not afraid of
the US government. I am not afraid of
the United States Army. I am not afraid
of ice. I'm not afraid of whatever they
control.
Not only am I not afraid, but it is my
life mission to stand against all of the
above. So what happens when this
continues?
It really paints a picture to me of of
where we're headed in the world
and the darkness that is is covering the
globe and that we're living in moments
when Israel and that light of Israel is
only going to grow as the world fails.
Yes, see, we have to recognize that this
is a spiritual battle. And if you talk
on a rational, logical level, if you
believe that conquering land, you have a
right to that land, or if you don't
believe that you don't have a right to
the land if you conquer the land. So the
Jewish people conquered the land in
1948, so we have a right. If you don't
believe that conquering land you have a
right, then it was conquered from us by
the Romans and so we have a right to
that land. So rationally, there's just
no way around it. But the point is is
that Greenland, it doesn't matter.
Meaning in a world without God, who
knows what's going to be in three years
after Trump. That video right there
proves that this has nothing to do with
logic, it has nothing with rationale, it
is a spiritual battle. And so the only
um ammo that we have is the Bible to
bring the truth to that darkness. And
>> [clears throat]
>> can I say to you this is so because that
that to say the Christian point. We said
earlier I said 3.0, that's Islam. 2.0 is
Christianity. What both of those are
false and evil. You can't have a point
oh
You can't just It doesn't work. What
what I want to clarify is is that yes,
Jewish people if if you establishing
something new upon No, it doesn't work.
You can't do that with the The world
needs to understand is that covenant
with Israel is clean and true and right,
will never change. There's You can't add
to it, you can't take away from it. It's
just what it is and the world needs to
understand that there's a biblical
just foundation. You can't change it.
You gentlemen are Jewish. That won't
change. Your children are Jewish and you
have a role to play in the world that
the nations just don't. Call it
whichever you want. You can't establish
a new thing to replace you. It don't
work. And the sooner the world
understands that,
the closer we are to redemption. No, the
sooner we understand that. That's what
this whole thing is about. It's about
We are a nation of priests. We are
Mamlekhet Kohanim veGoy Kadosh. We're
here to be vessels for blessing the
world and shining God's light to the
world. And until we do that, until it
there is a a Jewish leader of Israel
that says the same exact words that came
out Imagine that we We should almost
replay that and say, "Imagine that these
words were coming not through the dark
prism of a twisted document like the
Quran, but through the Bible of the God
of Israel and it's being channeled
through his anointed one, through his
anointed nation, right? And shining a
light to all of humanity. While God's
light is going through that the Even
ha-Eshiya, the foundation stone through
which all of reality was created and
it's going to the world. Right now it's
going through the Dome of the Rock.
Yeah. Imagine the light and the beauty
about when it's going through the temple
of the house of the God of Israel. That
is when it will really, really shine.
And
yeah, and and and so we need to really
not try to change everybody else,
convince everybody else of anything,
look within ourselves as a nation and
kindle that spark because when that
comes from our mouths, that as God says
in the book of Malachi, "Return to me
and I will return to you." We need to
take that first step and put our faith
in God and God alone and not put it say
what are the nations going to say and
what are they going to think and how's
it going to be marketed and how's it
going to be perceived? No, we fear God
and God alone and that is the words that
are coming from the leadership of
Israel. God will say you if you finally
put your faith in me, you've returned to
me, now I'm going to return to you. And
that's what's going to happen. Well,
it's it's your job to to to to work on
the Jewish nation, right? And for the
light for for you it's y'all's job for
to shine the light brighter for the
light to go forth and the Torah to go
forth from Zion. I know you guys are
doing that on a weekly basis,
but it's our job to work on the nations,
right?
>> you a quick story about that?
Yesterday I was with the movie star Nate
Buzz and he's a radical Zionist. He said
he he he was speaking to a group and I
was with him there and he said
God's a Zionist. He's a Aussie.
God's a Zionist and he went this whole
story but I was talking to him later
personally we were meeting and and
we were walking
uh
through the streets of of ancient
Hebron. A Jewish group walked by us. And
it was funny this little internal thing.
They all recognized me and not him which
was kind of fun. They were like "The
Israel guys." It was a Jewish group so
obviously you know they were they were
like all about the Israel guys so it was
good. So he's a humble guy. He He's a
humble guy. He's great. And I was like
well actually you need to meet this guy.
He's the he's the and he's doing amazing
work of of representing Israel.
It was fascinating that him and I we
talked to this Jewish group and we said
we told them
it's
we see God doing amazing things with
you.
We [snorts] feel like that you guys are
right on the right track. Israel's light
becoming brighter and stronger.
And we told them together in unison
where we really feel like is a challenge
and it's on our shoulders is
is that the nations are falling apart
and we're taking that very seriously and
we're trying to reach the nations with
the truth of God and the truth of
Israel, the covenant of Israel. And so
just inspire maybe everybody that's
listening is there are people out there
and there's people that are have serious
positions of of you know star status
that are even using that Hollywood
moment, that Hollywood place to try to
educate people and educate people on how
to stand with Israel in a right
Christian way that people could
understand that the Jewish people
they this is the foundation of the whole
world that people should recognize
Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. You can't get
rid of them. You shouldn't. It's going
to cause trouble in your life. You'll
never break it. You'll never win. A lot
of people have tried. It don't work. I
just want to tweak one thing that my
brother Luke just said. You are not your
job is not only to reach out to the
nations and to be a light to the
nations. You're also doing a great job
with us. Really, you have a role with
the nation of Israel also. Not only to
comfort and to support and to encourage
us to walk with God and to be who we're
supposed to be. But you know
that the righteous of the nations
will say just like you said, will say to
the nation of Israel, "The God of
Israel, he's with you. He's with you.
Look at the great things he's doing with
you." And when we hear it from your
mouths, it's it does it has an effect on
our hearts in a way that
no rabbi that can say it like that than
when we hear it from without. And so you
really have a mission in both
directions. I totally see what you're
saying too and it's actually funny that
this came up in the conversation cuz
there was a Jewish guy standing there
with us that was a part of our little
meeting and and we were like but you
know what?
At the end of this all
we looked over at the Jewish guy that
was with us,
Yehuda, and we said
we really actually just trying to set
you up
to be able to be the light to all
nations. That's right. And even that was
powerful that Nate Buzz and I we
recognized in the end we really just
have a role to support you and in the
end you will be the voices of light to
the whole world. Yeah, and and it's
funny because never before have I heard
of one religion if we're going to say
for a second that we're two different
religions totally one religion coming
and saying you that other religion, you
are God's people. You have God's vision.
You need to That's never happened. And
the irony is that when that is coming
out of your mouths, it's actually
breaking down the walls that have been
up for thousands of years that I think
that when the prophet Zechariah says
and the righteous of the nations will
attach themselves to the house of Israel
and be for me like a nation by you
turning to Israel and saying please walk
with your God and follow your Torah and
be the Jews you're meant to be, you're
actually breaking down some of those
walls and really connecting with us on a
very deep spiritual fundamental level to
the degree where something new is being
created. And shattering the 2.0
replacement theology that was invented
you know
I have a question cuz I've been thinking
about that video that we just saw. What
does it mean that someone is pro-Israel
but I'm not a Zionist? What does he
actually mean? Is does you know how to
does that does that ring a bell to you?
Does What is that What is that word
mean? Politically
okay with Israel but biblically has
nothing to do with me. You say that's
right?
Yeah, but I would also say I have that I
have that your very same question. Right
because I mean Zionism is a political
movement which is ironic. It wasn't a
religious movement in the beginning. The
beginning parts of modern Zionism was
entirely political in order to establish
a state in this land. And he's like no,
no, I support the Jewish state in the
land. I'm just not politically I like it
doesn't really make sense and I'm trying
to like what is he actually talking
about? And I would say that there is a
difference. And the difference in my
mind maybe he's articulate maybe it's a
conscious maybe it's subconscious is
that someone who's just pro-Israel it's
like they like like Israel. They're
cheering for Israel on the side. Like
they'll they'll even buy good tickets
and watch them from the you know the
front lines and say root for their team.
If someone speaks bad about their team,
they'll even speak up for their team cuz
they really like their football team.
But someone that's a Zionist they don't
see themselves on the sidelines. They
see themselves running the ball down the
field. Yeah. They see themselves as a
player in the game. They see themselves
as an active participant in the story of
the Bible. It's not just a religion.
It's not just a theology. It's not just
um some idea or it's not even just
politics. There is an unfolding story in
the Bible and seeing yourself as a part
of that story is the essence of Zionism.
And it's like we have these visions in
the Bible. We have the visions of
prophecy. Are we just supposed to wait
for those visions to come to pass or is
that a vision that we're meant to work
toward? We're meant to bring that vision
into reality and that's the essence. And
that's really the defining line now who
is aligning themselves with the vision
of God who's actively participating in
the visions of the Bible in the dreams
of the Bible and they're all aligning
now. Like a new team is being formed. A
new people's being formed. And it's like
we align ourselves with the vision of
God and we are actively pursuing to
fulfill that dream. One one quick story
again from yesterday that was so
incredible and I feel like you're
talking about that vision being lived
out. Yesterday we were in ancient Hebron
probably one of the most
>> next to Jerusalem fought over places in
the entire land of Israel. Um in it's in
a spiritual sense of like it's a hold.
There's a a Muslim hold on this town.
I was there. I I told you I was there
with Nate Buzz. There was a couple of
guys. We had a bunch of volunteers
there. We were doing this project. And
Jeremy you've done a lot of teaching on
uh Ezra, Nehemiah. There were Jewish men
that our team came alongside that had
their gun strapped on one side and
literally a pick in the other. I
literally saw and somebody one of our
volunteers said "I feel like we're doing
like Ezra and Nehemiah work." And then I
walked into this thing and I was
working alongside this Jewish man who
had his M-16 over his shoulder,
literally had a pick in his hand digging
a rock out right beside me and I looked
up at one of the guys and I said
"I think you're right about that Ezra
Nehemiah thing.
It's [snorts] happening." And I said "Do
you think the Bible's coming to like do
you think we're living the stories of
the pages of the Bible now?" So when I I
want to give like some vision to
everybody. We've talked a lot about show
the hard stuff. The reality is
me as a non-Jew, one from the nations,
is coming alongside of you. You've got
your gun on one side right now because
we're in the we're in the trenches. The
kingdom of Israel, the people of Israel,
call it what you want. Go back you know
the nation of Israel is being
reestablished. The ancient ruins are
being
coming back to life. That's what we were
part of yesterday.
Our team of nations, cowboys,
Spanish people
and Amish people from that was our team.
About 40 people came in, partnered
beside these Jewish guys to rebuild the
ancient ruins of Israel.
Reestablish the the the agricultural
cycles to see the land restored. So to
me I'm inspired by what the Jewish
nation is doing and how you're you're
bringing us alongside of you to do one
of the most holiest things that I can
even It's like the whole world's got
this thing going on and it's what we've
talked about today.
But there's a real like beautiful thing
happening at and that's the light I
think that's that's really coming. It's
small and if there's a few people out
there listening
this is a lot more important. I'll just
say cuz this just popped into my mind
and it's good it's at the end so you can
cut it out if it's not relevant. But I'm
it's funny I'm thinking about what
you're saying. I'm hearing the words
from your mouth and the words feel in my
heart very much like David and Jonathan.
Right? The the it's not just we're not
just here together to accomplish a
mission together, perhaps in the eyes of
God, which his thoughts are not ours,
the brotherhood and friendship that's
being developed here, even just with us
as an as an example, is a brotherhood
that is so deep and profound that it's
the purpose in and of itself. That
there's is that David-Jonathan idea.
Because what are you essentially saying?
What is Tucker Carlson saying? We are
the chosen. We are God's chosen. The
only way to be God's chosen is to say, I
believe in these words and say these
words and and not believe this and
believe that. And you're saying,
no, we're actually
forfeiting this kingdom, this kingship,
that isn't really true anymore.
And we're turning into you and blessing
you and asking you,
please be that nation of royalty that
you're meant to be. And when we become
that nation of royalty, which is what
we're meant to be in Am Segulah, what is
the purpose of that royalty? The purpose
of being this chosen people is to teach
the whole world that we're all chosen,
that we're all royalty, that we're all
God's children and he loves all of us.
But we have to be the conduits and the
vessels for that blessing and that
light. And so I really do see a
David-Jonathan relationship even between
us.
>> Yeah. Does that resonate as true with
you? Oh, I think absolutely that there's
a a awakening among Christians to say,
"Whoa,
this thing has gone off the rails. This
stuff that we're hearing that we've
talked about today, the Crusades and all
this stuff, most Christians didn't know
what that They didn't know that the
Crusaders pushed Jews in synagogues and
burned it down. And this is like they're
like awakening and their their their
zeal for Zion is to say, well, this is a
Jewish story." And I think that that's
exactly They're they're waking up and
saying,
"God's with you." That's even what
Isaiah says. Isaiah says that that that
what are the nations to say? They say,
"Your God reigns." There's going to be a
day when the nations all say, "Your God
reigns." And then the analogy is exactly
right.
>> 52. is the nations are going to take
their shields and come alongside you
like we did yesterday, say this story is
about the Jewish people. And God didn't
choose you for no reason. He chose you
because, like you said, the light's
going to cover the globe through you.
We can just see that there's so many
lies that are being put out. There's
just a by the patriarchs in Jerusalem
and by the
Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens.
Israel, the Messianic vision is for the
Torah will go forth from Zion and the
word of God from Jerusalem. At that time
it's not going out to the Jews. It's
going out to the nations of the world.
And if that is the dream, we need to
start fulfilling that dream now. We need
to start participating in that action
now by spreading the truth because
otherwise the world will be covered with
lies. And it's our responsibility to
bring the Torah, to bring that light to
the world. That's right. Tag, you're it.
We're saying.
>> [laughter]
>> Go.
And I guess the question is too, I mean,
we could keep going, but I obviously
we're running out of time again, but you
guys are watching. You guys are
listening. Our audience out there, let
us know what you think. Like does does a
statement like this from the the
patriarchs in Jerusalem concern you? Um
does rhetoric from those who say, "I
support Israel, but not because of
Zionism. I'm I'm not a Zionist. The
Bible doesn't say anything about
supporting Israel."
Is that worrisome? Like We want to hear
from you guys. Let us know what you
think.
>> Zechariah, I just had to say this, Luke.
To say you're not a Zionist, to go back
to the point, I know we got to wrap up,
but like God says, "I'm fervently
zealous over Zion with great zeal. I'm
zealous for her." Like I'm
How can somebody be like, "I'm not a
Zionist." Like did you not hear what God
just said? You know, like okay,
whatever. Anyway, Luke. Well, because
the Old Testament All right. Oh, that
was That was
That was the old prophets. I was like,
"Oh my gracious." Anyways, guys, if you
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