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>> Welcome to the Israel guys where we
believe that in a world of anti-Israel
propaganda and Jew hatred you should
always be connected to the land and to
the people of Israel. Happy to be with
you guys here with Joshua Waller, Rabbis
Ari Abramowitz, Jeremy Gimpel all the
way from Judea. And we're back 2 weeks
in a row. So that's exciting.
>> the opening, Luke. Yeah, it's cuz I
didn't say my own name. So [laughter]
there you go.
I can pronounce everyone else's name,
just not my own. So anyways, very good
to be back 2 weeks in a row and before
we dive in so much happening happy
Independence Day by the way yesterday.
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>> So I want to dive in with some
statistics. Israel's population
Independence Day 2026 which was
yesterday April 22nd.
Israel's population total 10.244
million people. 7.79 million are Jewish
that's 76% of Israel's population. 2.157
are Arab that's 21% of Israel's
population. And 296,000 foreigners of
which I guess Josh I guess you and I are
in that number. So we're part of the
2.9%
of Israel's population. That's up
146,000 from last year.
1.4%
>> many foreigners are actually pro-Israel.
Like the Arab number as well. How many
Arabs living in Israel are actually
pro-Israel?
>> I think probably most of them. You think
so? Yeah. When I meet when I meet people
from the Philippines or from Sri Lanka,
they all love Israel. The foreigners I'm
talking what about the 21%
Arab?
Oh you're talking about the I doubt I
don't think so. I think that we have
this thing like oh Israeli Arabs and
then you know Arabs that aren't Israeli
and then Judea and Samaria that are
known as the Palestinians. A lot of that
is foreign imposed identities and to
them they are jihadists. You know so
many of them.
>> tell you what I was going to say I went
to the zoo. I'll let you argue about it
I'll let you argue about it in a second.
Just let me finish. Just just so people
for people who are interested 177,000
newborn Israelis since last Independence
Day. Wow. That feels like a lot to me.
48,000 people died and 21,000 people
making Aliyah into Israel immigrating
into Israel.
>> How many people? 21,000.
>> 21,000. It's interesting because the
first Aliyah was like you know like
I have the writer from 1882 to 1903 that
was the beginning of the modern return
to the land of Israel. There were 25,000
Jews that made Aliyah in 10 years. Wow.
>> And you see like in 1 year now it's like
already like almost 25,000 what was
accomplished in 10 years is now being
accomplished in 1 year. And so Israel's
just like on a tear it just keeps on
growing it keeps on getting stronger.
And it's interesting cuz all over social
media you see like Israel's being
destroyed it's being rocked by rockets
and I feel like Israel's economy has
never been stronger. Israel's military
has never been stronger. And while the
world is like watching Israel or
speaking of it like as if it's falling
apart we keep on getting stronger and
stronger. That's right.
Josh you had something about the
>> to say was it's Ari's comment I'd love
to hear what you think about this. I
went to the the Safari. There's an
awesome Safari in Ramat Gan near Tel
Aviv there. And
just awesome. Super fun. Super fun
place. So I went with family. Well a lot
of Arab Israelis actually go there.
It was a Friday. A lot of Arabs go
places on Friday. So anyway I'm there
and I see a completely obviously Muslim
Arab family.
And you would think
you know the settler look just like you
you know you got your gun in your back.
He had a he had a pistol stuck in the
back of his pants.
And I thought at first I was like hmm
you know.
Cuz you're like I mean we're
living in Judea and Samaria. You never
see that here. That's something you
would never see in Judea and Samaria
because unless you're actually in a full
blown fight somewhere that I mean that's
what the IDF deals with.
>> It's pretty rare to see that in Ramat
Gan also.
Right. So but to your point there are
some
that are awesome fighters for Israel.
There are some.
>> Yeah yeah that's what I wanted to say. I
felt like the rest are jihadists and
then I was like but there are others.
It's important to focus on that because
I've met so many of them. And I think
there is probably a lot more than we
imagine. But there's so much fear
involved in them actually expressing
that
that they have to say no of course I'd
vote for Hamas. I've course I've just
met so many of them that see the value
of living in a Jewish Israel. Just for
them personally for their families the
peace and the calm and the rights and
the pri- they have more rights and
privileges. Where else in the entire
world can you know the Middle East can
an Arab woman drive other than in
Israel? I think they have more.
You know so so that's an important
thing. But but it's cool the 21,000
number you know at the times of Ezra
there were 42,360
Jews that came back. So that's exactly
half
of not exactly half but we don't know
it's a 21,000 did it say an exact
number? This is what this is what I got
from the Times of Israel. 21,000 people.
>> 21,000. Cuz I like to be specific about
it. The exact number because it was like
that in the book of Ezra. And it's
important to know every single Jew
counts. Well how many donkeys did he
say? Yeah you're right exactly. Cuz he
says that too right in there. 7,337
servants and 200 singers. How many
donkeys did he say?
>> were donkeys counted also. Donkeys were
counted too?
It was like I think that like the book
of Ezra is like wow only 42,000 like
that's like okay well how many horses?
How many donkeys? How many servants?
Like we got to like buff buff buff buff
the numbers a little bit.
>> Right well I'll tell you who would know
the answer to that. Rabbi Tal Cohen.
The girl that just won the international
contest for the Tanakh in Israel that
happens every single Independence Day.
Right? That it's our family tradition
that on the way to our family barbecue
where all of the different family from
all the different backgrounds come
together to celebrate Yom Ha'atzmaut we
listen in the car to this contest where
Jews from all the nations around the
world and within Israel come together
and they're asked questions about the
Bible. And I'm saying the most specific
minutia. They are asked you know what
are what are the name of the of the town
in Gilead that Jephthah went to? I mean
the most specific nuance and they and
you see the adherence and the love for
the Bible that the nation has. And this
girl would have nailed that no question.
How many donkeys? Boom. She would have
nailed it.
>> cuz you remember this time exactly last
year we were doing the show together and
uh former Ambassador David Friedman just
happened to be watching. Do you remember
that? I do remember that.
>> about it and I [laughter] got to roast
the individual. But we one of us on the
show accidentally said a verse that did
not even exist in the Bible. It was A
chapter it's a chapter. Like Leviticus
28. I remember Deuteronomy 21 or
something like [laughter] that. Just
hilarious that that Ambassador Friedman
was watching and it was like he just
cracked up cuz he he heard us say it
like it was true. No but but the reason
I wanted to should sort of pivot to that
subject with your permission Luke cuz I
know you're usually at the at the wheel
here. But just yesterday from the entire
day from the moment Yom Ha'atzmaut began
this Independence Day every piece of it
was so overwhelmingly infused to its
very essence with the Bible with
prophecy with Jewish or the Jewish
identity of the nation from the Prime
Minister down to every single person.
All it was was one
singing it of the praises of God
gratitude to Hashem prophecy fulfilled
and then to see these Jews from around
the world people like oh the secular
people it's a secular country. Talk
about missing the boat here. You're
talking right now about the national
ceremony where they light the torches
and it's like the national celebration.
>> about the Tanakh. But but we could talk
about that also.
>> tell you for the first time I'd always
seen clips of the national ceremony but
for this was the first time I went to my
father's house we watched on this big
screen TV me and all my kids. And the
national ceremony was shocking. How
Jewish it was. How godly it was. Because
I remember seeing clips of it 10 years
ago there were girls skimming around in
bikinis and dancing it was so secular.
>> That's why I never watch it I would feel
depressed dude.
>> last years this year it was so
spiritually oriented. And then every
time someone lighted a torch and they
would say well this is in honor of the
soldiers and this is in honor of the
doctors or this is in honor of whatever
they represented at that time and they
would say this is in honor of God the
whole audience would erupt in applause.
Like God got more cheers than every
other topic that was honored. And they
kept on honoring God over and over
again. It was such a religious ceremony.
I'd never seen anything like that. The
thing that really struck me the most
about the ceremony was the first singer
that was brought on had long tzitzit all
the way down to his ankles. But he
wasn't wearing a kippah. And that's kind
of his style. He's like listen tzitzit
that's like from the Torah. A kippah
that's kind of like a tradition that was
brought on a little bit later like
Abraham wasn't wearing a kippah. And
he's like no I'm just living by the
Torah. I wanted to live this way. And
he's opened up a whole new way of
secular Israelis kind of like
identifying living being religious being
more observant in their own way. And he
was the lead singer that opened up the
whole ceremony.
>> called tzitzit lelo kippah. It's an
actual movement of like yes we wear the
the fringes on the garments that the
Bible says but no no kippah. Meaning
that there's to someone looking from
without even an Orthodox Jew from the
exile could with or exile diaspora eyes
look and say oh it's they're secular
because they're not keeping the abstract
rituals that have sustained us in the
exile for thousands of years. But
there's a deeper integration. The Bible
tells us the Torah tells us when I
return you to the land you I will take
from you a heart of stone and put within
you a heart of flesh. You'll have a
circumcision of the heart that there's
something deeper happening and when you
see this generation of kids you can't
see them through the same eyes. There's
something so much deeper and more primal
and integrated and infused within them
that they are living breathing their
Judaism. Who is this chef the chef guy
you know who I'm talking about? There's
a world renowned chef a
multi-millionaire he's a all around the
world is an Israeli chef October 7th
happened he came back to Israel joined
the army as a medic in the front lines
nearly died and he was a he lit one of
the Really? one of the one of the lights
and then there was Ari Spitz right he
his parents were born in America made
Aliya to Israel he lost an arm two legs
and fingers from the other hand and he
walked up there with his prosthetics and
just sung the praises of God and Israel.
It was just so moving I I couldn't help
but to just cry the whole time.
>> of Israelis that are watching television
are watching that national ceremony and
they built a national ceremony in a way
that's obviously like appealing to the
nation and it's just showing that that's
where the nation is at. The nation is
becoming more and more connected to God
and more and more connected
>> people out there because I can't
remember now the last public address
that the prime minister has made where
he hasn't said at some point
please with the help of God with the
with Hashem's help and people like oh he
says that it means uh it means that
elections are coming. Mhm. Right because
he's like pandering to the nation. First
of all I think that's overly cynical but
even if it's true it shows something
about the nation. Right.
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>> Can I share another miracle or Jeremy
you had something else? Well I was just
going to say that like one other story
that I just saw in the Times of Israel
that the head of the Shabak which is
like Israel's internal agency the FBI of
Israel his first day in office he
changed all of the screen savers and
background pictures to be instead of the
logo of the Shabak to be a picture of
the Temple Mount.
>> No way. On all of the computers in the
office. And there's something about it
that that is really fundamentally
changing Israel because the Shabak
that's really a stronghold of the deep
state. Right and then everybody said
>> into the belly of the beast and he's
like no we're putting up the Temple
Mount now. That's on the computers of
all
>> everybody say a lot of not everybody but
a lot of the like the deep staters in
the deep state they're like that just
shows that he's Messianic he's Messianic
and like as if that's some sort of bad
word right? But in the end of the day
the entire nation
you know is like when I say Messianic I
mean like yearning for the arrival of
Messiah. Well yeah who's the whole
everybody in the world is fighting
against Israel and the real haters who
do they hate the most? They hate Ben
Gvir and they hate Smotrich. The two
guys that are focused the most on the
Temple Mount they're focused on
religious Israel
God fearing Israel.
So again pointed in the
>> Josh I think you should share the story
you might share it better than I can
about the the farm that's being
established here on the Mount of
Blessing like where we're sitting and
the soldier that is being established in
memory of.
>> Sure. Yeah so the Eitan farm is just
being created here. There was a soldier
that it was it was a really hard story
but this is another example of what
Israel does in hard hard times.
Eitan was a an amazing young man very
cheerful amazing young guy. He actually
carried it's it's it's actually not
normal for Jewish people to do this but
he was a very special fellow he carried
a Tanakh a Jewish Bible in his pocket
wherever he went. It was it was a kind
of a phenomenal thing like that's not
common right? Not at all. Not at all.
Right. Um
he had just gotten married. He was a
part of the IDF.
He he was just basically got off his
honeymoon went to the war was killed in
Gaza. Horrific.
>> From the Jewish community where we're
sitting now.
>> our he was our neighbor. Um and just now
they're starting a new farm in memory
of him.
And again this is just so incredible to
me to see the the the power of what the
Jewish people do with hardship. You're
taking it and then they're going to
settle the land they're doing something
in his memory to to
remind people you know this amazing
young man.
And so farm is being being established.
The you know so it's just amazing to see
the land coming back to life but but uh
Yeah. And we're we're obviously a part
of that and and excited to see that.
>> Yeah I I'll just tell you you spoke
about him passing away him dying in war.
During the siren I had a lot of
experiences I'm not going to spend all
of the time but during the day I walked
outside onto my balcony overlooking the
hills of Judea all the way to the Dead
Sea I could see Masada and the siren
sounded and like many others I closed my
eyes I was whispering Psalms and I was
thinking about my friends and the people
I know and just that have died and I was
just picturing being there by their side
giving their lives for the state of
Israel for the Jewish people for the
nation and then I opened my eyes and I
saw the mountains of Judea spread before
me and I said this is what it was for.
This is what it just to be able to see
that right before me it was just like
it's hard to explain how like vivid and
transcendent that experience was but it
was a one-to-one.
And and that's the thing like you know I
think about it people we Jeremy and I
went out we put it all on the line
settling the hills of Judea. There's
many times where we almost lost
everything and we still may. You know
but I think people lost everything with
bad investments and at least
we've put it all on the line for the
same thing that you guys have. You know
when the siren went off I was actually
in the middle of a vineyard.
We were planting vines thousands
literally thousands and thousands of
vines in Shiloh the Shiloh Valley
incredibly beautiful spot
a 30 dunam something vineyard just the
most incredible that's when the siren
went off. And again it was that moment
where you know I'm thinking back over
the year
and we've lost friends we've lost people
that were close to us and um
but then seeing the the
the the Jewish people
the life of the nation you know you're
sitting in the middle you're it's like
this this balance between the harsh and
the hard things we're dealing with with
this redemption process that's unfolding
before us. We're we're planting vines
like the prophet said you will yet plant
vines on the mountains of Samaria
Jeremiah 31 and and you know the land is
going to come back to life Ezekiel 36
and like there's so much of the
prophetic word of God is coming to life
and we're witnessing it
right in the midst of the challenge. The
alarm goes off you're touching the
miracle of Israel at the same time
you're remembering the lives that were
lost to achieve that.
>> Just want to say you're not just
witnessing it it's happening through
you. Very often I hear you guys speak as
if you're just so honored to be
witnessing what's happening and you miss
that like if the Bible were to be
written and I believe chapters are being
written as we speak you guys are a
massive central part of it and a
tremendous source of light for the
Jewish people. I know my fingers are
absolutely sore as they can be we were
digging in the the amazing soil of
Israel.
>> the shovel wallet. You know [laughter]
I was literally digging The the amazing
rock soil of Israel has a lot of amazing
thorns that's that's The land of Israel
settled through hardship that is
actually a a uh You know this is just a
thought that came to me. I was talking
to Tila and she pointed this out to me
now I'm like leading the prayer service
now three times a day so I'm kind of
paying a lot more attention to the
prayer service and there's one part in
the Amidah the silent prayer where you
give thanks to God and there's one part
where it says Modim anachnu lach al she
anachnu modim lach we give thanks to you
God for giving thanks to you. The fact
that we're able to give thanks to you we
want to thank you for that. And I was
thinking Yom Ha'atzmaut Yom Ha'zikaron
really brought that out to me. And I was
like you know there Israel is sort of
like divided into these like movements.
There's seculars and they're like loving
Independence Day they recognize well
there's a Holocaust and we have a new
state we have independence we have a
strong
God's not a part of that.
Then on the other side there's Charedi
ultra-Orthodox Jews that see God in
everything. But they look at the state
of Israel and they're like oh except
that. I'm I'm not a Zionist I'm an
ultra-Orthodox Jew. And they think wow
we are so lucky that we get to see the
miracles of God and recognize what time
we're living in. And in that way that's
really what brings us around this table
today that we're actually seeing God
alive the miracles unfolding the
prophecies being fulfilled. And it's
really to give thanks to God but that
we're able to thank him for that that we
have the eyes to see the miracles of
Israel and to be a part of it.
On this note though while you're talking
about the miracles I have to thank God.
I don't know if you guys have heard this
or not but Israel just 2026 right the
war is starting
and and the year and all the things that
are happening right around us right
right now.
Did you know Israel sold
the made the largest sale of a company
in Israel's history. 32 billion dollar
sale.
When did that happen? The company Wiz.
Oh sure. So the Israeli tech company
massive company 32 billion dollar sale.
Largest in history. Now
why is this important that it happens
right now? Well Israel's fighting a war
that cost a ton of money. Do you know,
just the just the the sale of that
company and what came into the Israeli
government from that has Through taxes
and through taxes from the high Israeli
taxes. From [laughter] the high Israeli
taxes. I mean, that's the way it is.
That's what you have. It's a start-up
country. I mean, like you got it's
unreal. The whole war has been
affected by the largest sale in Israel's
history simultaneously. Talk about the
miracles. How in the world does that
come How did that happen? You know, the
shekel is higher higher than it's been
in like three decades or something like
that, too.
>> Yeah, stronger. Yeah.
And so that this is a part of it. It's
the mirror It's absolutely miraculous
timing.
>> but like Israel's stock market, like the
investments in the Israeli investment
economy has like skyrocketed in the last
2 and 1/2 years. In the last 2 and 1/2
years of war. Which again, we have to
thank God. We have to just thank God.
Well, I think on that kind of on that
note, um
we can tran- transition a little bit and
what we've all been talking about and
recognizing is that we are recognizing
the miracles of what's happening in
Israel while the rest of the world is
like
recognizing and calling out the
negatives and and you know, so like it's
war and and Israel's oppressing people
and uh you know, there's this story of
this Jesus statue being smashed and
that's all the world can focus on,
right? Um but like we're saying
all of Israel not all of Israel, but the
majority of Israel now is recognizing
that the the the Geulah is happening.
Like redemption, God's kingdom is
literally happening in the land of
Israel and the people of Israel and and
people are turning more religious and
becoming more faith-oriented and it
doesn't look exactly how we probably
would have predicted it's going to look,
right? Like it's all these different
types of people.
And I think that kind of goes right into
the the story and because we do want to
talk about this the statue being
smashed, but it's probably not the
perspective that you guys are expecting
to hear. Well, I think they expect us
not to say
>> if you're watching this or listening
this, then yes, you are you are
expecting something like that.
>> for us to bring up here on the show that
we should all have to go in a circle and
weigh in. And just take turns. What do
you think? What do you think? Uh so, but
the the reality is like it's it's all of
all of us but hold but all of us have
this perspective that is so different
than how the rest of the world is
looking at it.
>> Mhm. Cuz I was watching clips of uh our
mutual friend Yishai Fleisher on Piers
Morgan and like Piers Morgan's like,
"But what about this statue? But what
about this statue?" And you know, 60% of
America's now doesn't support Israel and
it's because of things like this statue.
And what about this you know, the the
military's known for smashing statues.
And what about this And it's like that
the world is obsessed over an Israeli
soldier smashing a statue of Jesus. It's
like one-off incident and now the guy's
like going to get 30 days in prison or
or that's like being investigated and
disciplined and and they've already
replaced the statue and all this stuff.
It's not normal, right? And and it's a
universally I mean, well, condemned
across Israel, right? Act, Jewish, all
circles.
But the world is like, "Well, what about
this This is This is represents Israel
oppression and genocide and apartheid
and occupation and all this kind of
stuff."
And that's not what's happening. So
anyways, Josh, do you want to start?
>> the real simple thing is is that Israel
condemned it, of course, and the highest
levels and they've already restored and
And well, what happened? A soldier There
was a statue of Jesus in southern
Lebanon a soldier
knocked it down and smashed it with a
sledgehammer. Okay, obviously obviously
offensive and no one in in Israel said,
"Oh, that's a great thing that should be
done." No, nobody said that. And then it
was dealt with and and the there's
actually a process being a legal process
now going through that's that's that
happens in a in a in a country that's
has law and order. And that's what's
happening in Israel. Now,
what I want to point out before, you
know, just to kick us off here is is is
that why is the world I just typed it
in. You can't type anything statue. Type
it in and then you know,
Jesus statue. Boom, every media network,
you know, BBC to Al Jazeera to The
haters are loving it. This is what they
want to
you know, project to the world. This is
what Jews equal. They equal persecution
of other minority groups. They equal
persecutors of Christians. You know,
Arab, you know, whatever. Jews just hate
the world. That's what they're trying to
paint. Now,
I want to contrast that with the actual
truth of what's happening.
And the test will be done right here
because did you know
just this week that a mob of 200 Muslims
attacked Christians in Bangladesh and
injured six,
cut down trees in a Christian cemetery,
Catholic cemetery, and absolutely
destroyed a Hindu temple. Just this
week.
No. Did you know that? No. And are any
news agencies promoting that? Except for
where I found it was the Catholic World
Report.
That's the only place you're going to
find it. Like no one is talking about
the extreme
Islamic
persecution of minority groups,
specifically Christians since this topic
is Christian. No one's talking about it.
Nearly some some report as many as
22,000
22,000 Christians killed by Islam
Islamists in Africa alone since 2024. Um
we can talk about Syria and we've talked
about that before on the show.
Um many people are not talking about the
Christian situation in Syria. But in
2011, there was some 1.5 million
Christians living in Syria and today
there's only like 300,000. What
happened? Well, it's obvious. They were
massacred. And we all know that. But is
anyone talking about it? No, there's not
massive news. No But he's talking about
it. Um Damascus. I'm just going to run
through these cuz this is what the world
needs to understand is actually the war
actually is. There's an Islamic
um war against all
you know, we talk about minorities, we
talk about Christians, we talk about
Jewish people. That's this is the actual
attack that this soldier was actually
fighting to free the world from. And of
course, now
this this is complicating it and making
people think, "Oh, no, Israel's the bad
guy." No, Israel is freeing the world.
And yes, they're going to deal with
these small situations, but don't be
confused about what's actually happening
on the ground. Islamic attacks in
Damascus.
22 people killed, 63 wounded. That just
happened 2025. Did anybody know about
it? No. Afghanistan, crazy attacks
happening. Istanbul, crazy attacks.
Spain, Russia, all across America, for
goodness sake. There's even statues, the
exact same situation as what happened on
the IDF front with the soldier has
happened across America. Look at these
pictures. This happened in America and
no one even knows who did it. Doesn't
matter. Nobody cares. Is it true that on
average one Christian church is burned
every week in the Muslim world? Yes.
That that is our research has put that
stat together and I think that just says
it the best. That says what I'm really
trying to say.
One church a week in the Islamic world
is burned, destroyed. You talk about
Christian persecution at its mass. And
yet the world is trying to mask that and
say,
"You know what? These Islamists aren't
the real problem. It's the Jews. Look at
this guy who took a sledgehammer and and
and you know, destroyed this Jesus
statue in southern Lebanon. No one in
Israel supports that. And yet that that
force It's everything is backwards from
the actual reality of what Israel stands
for and what Israel is giving its life.
The whole nation has been in war against
this evil regime that is persecuting and
burning and and you know,
you talk about absolute massacres
against the Christian and free world.
And Israel's the front line of fighting
it.
>> I think it's really remarkable that the
Jews are 0.2%
of world population. Not 1%, it's 0.2 of
1% and the amount of attention that the
Jews draw because a random soldier
somewhere did something, it's all over
every news outlet while people are being
massacred, slaughtered, and killed. No
one's talking about that at all. To me,
that is really noteworthy.
>> I I'd like to dig just a little deeper
on this front and go a little out of the
box. First of all, a diplomatic answer
to that that an editor at the
jewishaction.com said, I'm just going to
read it. It said, "Here in Israel, we
hear ourselves being relentlessly
attacked by Christians like Tucker
Carlson, Candace Owens, Nick Fuentes,
and the Pope with their millions of
Christian followers. Yet we know there
are also millions of Christians who love
Israel. So how about we won't judge all
Christians who hate us by your outliers
and you won't judge Israel by one
soldier who destroyed an idol." So
that's a nice answer. But I want to dig
a little deeper because one of the
reasons I love Samson so much, again,
Prophets of Israel daily we're in
Samson, so I see everything through that
prism. I got a lot
digging in on these, but that's what you
know, Jeremy and I spend tremendous
amount of our time doing that. Um
Samson, you know, when the 3,000 men
from the tribe of Judah handed him over
to the Philistines, he said, "I'll let
you do that as long as you don't try to
hurt me." He wasn't worried about them
hurting him. He was worried about
hurting them. Right? And that was
refreshing to me after all of the Jew on
Jew What I'm trying to say is I don't
like Jew on Jew violence. And I couldn't
help it to think that this soldier is
taking a sledgehammer to a Jewish guy,
okay, a statue of of a Jew, you know?
And I know that that's like crazy
sounding
to to think that, but at the other the
same time, I do see that he was a Jew.
And from my perspective, and maybe this
is a hot potato, but I look back at what
he said, and you know, I think about
Deuteronomy chapter 14,
"You are the We are the children of
God." I can imagine him saying, "We are
the children of God. I'm the son of
God." He I could picture him saying
that. And some people as he's teaching
the non-Jewish world, just like we are,
just like we tried to to share and to
teach and connect also, they could take
that and misunderstand that and whatever
it is. The point is, I think it's not
right for us to accept third-hand
slanderous things, although millions of
Jews were killed throughout history in
his name, for us to besmirch his name. I
don't think most Jews in Israel have a
negative
association with who he was as a person.
And so, to take a sledgehammer to the
face of a Jewish guy that was killed by
the Romans, that sort of was disturbing
to me. But, also on a deeper level, you
know, if if it sort of exposed the
underlying idols that so many of us
have. You know, it's one thing for us to
say, you know, we should be destroying
idolatry, but what about our own
idolatry? People are like,
The soldier that did that he's going to
ruin everything. What is America next to
get? What's the world going to say? We
need the world. We need America. We need
And then you hear people's idols coming
out about all the things that we need
the support of that this could
undermine. If someone has an an argument
about the actual principle of the
matter, then I want to hear that. I want
to hear that, but it's just a pragmatic
issue that we're going to lose all of
the idols that we think are the reason
we continue to exist. We should like
those who in glass houses, right?
Shouldn't throw stones, right? If you
see someone else's blemish, your own. We
should really be looking with
What are our real reasons for for being
against this? Now, you you quoted
something, right? What what were you
saying about it?
About a Bible verse or something? Yes.
>> Oh, you talking Well, I was just
thinking about it. I don't know if you
read my thoughts here, but I What I What
my thought was is that
in the Bible it says, "Don't don't
you know, don't make images and don't
have these things, right?" So, there is
a big difference in Christianity. I
mean, between the Catholics and the
Protestants. And I mean, how many What
is there? 60,000 something different
denominations, but but in all broken up
along these lines of some believe that
it's okay to have these statues. Others,
I mean, even Christians themselves would
be destroying things like this
in an internal fight to say, "No, you're
not allowed to have like these statues.
You're not allowed to have this kind of
stuff." So,
um
from a Jewish perspective,
you shouldn't have these images. And
Israel
>> perspective.
>> And from some Christian perspective.
>> Ten Commandments perspective. Like just
to not have idols. Right. So, you're not
allowed to create an image and then
worship Well, that's exactly what
we if a Jewish person walked into, let's
just give an example. If you walked into
the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in
Jerusalem, there's hordes of of you
know,
images around and people are bowing
down. And there's a rock when you first
walk into there that's absolutely
smooth. There's people are bowing down.
They're kissing it. Then they're and
they're wiping their tears on it. And
then
like this it's the picture of what a
Jewish person would describe as
idolatry. That's just the picture of it.
It's the Catholic version of what we've
of Christianity that that we've all
seen. So, in some ways, if you were to
just to give the benefit of the doubt
for someone that like Ari saying, I
loved your argument there for for this.
But, at the other at the other hand, and
when we're talking about race sensitive
issues here that of course everyone
should feel free to to state their
opinions.
But, at the same time, what if this
Jewish man just said,
what if it wasn't so entrenched? What if
he was just saying,
"You're not allowed to have
create images." I mean, okay. That's
actually a Jewish command. So, they're
going in war. Of course, I'm not saying
that he should do this or shouldn't.
But, what if it was like you're saying
it was a Ten Commandment kind of thing.
And there'd be a thousands and millions
of people around the world that would
agree with that.
But, because of the backdrop of the
situation, of course it's being
misrepresented because of the hostile
form that the whole world is taking
against Jews, people are looking at the
Jewish people in a bad light and not
giving any sort of
trying to understand. Why would a Jewish
person No generosity here. No generosity
>> benefit of the doubt.
>> Yeah. I'm And that's what I'm saying.
We're at a place right now where we need
to be shining light.
>> That's right.
>> That's just the era that we're in. And I
think why aren't we I mean, there's an
argument to make. It's Lebanon is not
right now under the jurisdiction. It is
not There's not Jewish sovereignty in
Lebanon. Yeah. So, there's not that
commandment at this point to go do that.
If And why isn't there Jewish
sovereignty? Because we're so terrified
of what the world would say
instead of doing what we How many times
in my own service we go into Lebanon. We
have to occupy southern Lebanon so cuz
they start murdering Jews and shooting
missiles at us. And then we have some
sort of leftist prime minister that
gives it away. And then there's new
attacks and more blood and more Jewish
murder. And then we go back into
Lebanon. Why aren't we just saying
Lebanon is part of biblical Israel? It's
part of the nation of Israel now?
Because we're afraid of what the world
is going to say. If we focus on building
the temple, if we focus on destroying
the idols in our own hearts, the light
that will shine from that, other nations
will start to
you know, take apart their own idols
without us needing to smash it with a
sledgehammer. That's where I'm at. So, I
didn't feel good about that. It wasn't a
good feeling in my heart. Right or
wrong, I don't know, but it didn't it
didn't feel Jeremy. Yeah, the way that I
feel about it is that everything that
happens to Israel happens for Israel.
This event that happened, it's
clarifying things. Meaning, there's like
a swath of Christians in the world. If
there's one Christian that turns against
Israel now because a soldier destroyed
an idol when he wasn't commanded to that
was condemned by the whole country, then
okay. That person can turn against
Israel for Israel destroying idols.
Meaning, I don't feel like the people
that are truly seeking after God, that
are really reading the Bible, that are
really looking for the truth in the
world, that are seeing the evil that's
out there and the fact that Israel is
standing alone against this evil, that's
not really going to change one's heart
one way or the other. And if it does
change their heart, then they were never
really with us from the beginning from
the get-go. They were looking for an
excuse to Totally. I mean, there's so
much influence right now and so much
money that's being poured in order to
try to break up the alliance between
Jews and Christians.
>> Israel that's so This was just a perfect
opportunity to try to kind of put a
wedge between the world. But, I'm saying
if there needs to be a wedge, let it be
over idols. Okay, let that be a wedge.
That's not like
>> will just go with us for a minute here,
what does that international body that
wants to separate which you which I
think you're right on it, Jeremy. This
is the point that the world is so
they're in glee about this moment
because they want to separate
these two partners in this redemption
process and what we're sitting around on
this show. The people that can can help
to it to bring light and to to help
support the Christian community that's
supporting Israel. There is a good
that's happening there. But, what Every
time you will see this, they're taking
the fringe and they're trying to use it
to divide. If it's the church
in
in Gaza that was that was hit in a in a
in a Of course, Hamas was using the
church and whatever and and the the It's
an accident. you know, this this
situation happens.
Boom! Everybody locks in on it because
it's important to them to divide.
They've got it. There's international
people that support Israel religiously.
That is an issue. And we're going to use
every single thing. And that's why even
these small instances of this random
event that happens is going to be
highlighted and thrown to the front of
the stage for the entire world to then,
you know, pick apart and try to push off
cuz there will be unfortunately,
there'll be people that didn't have
enough belief, not enough faith. They
didn't understand God's purpose in
Israel. They didn't understand the
situation. They didn't understand the
redemption process that's unfolding
before our eyes. And they will flake off
because of the situation just like you
talked about, Jeremy.
And that's unfortunate to me. Um
But, just to understand the battle
that's being waged and the enemy that is
that is
fighting to divide any kind of support
to try to make Israel stand alone, which
will happen. It's going to happen. But,
hopefully I my prayer is there's going
to be a couple people from the nations.
Hopefully a couple more than just a
couple. Um that that are going to stand
with Israel against this tide of
anti-Israel propaganda, Jew hatred, all
of these evils that are coming at the
Jewish people from everywhere. They're
going to see very clearly the truth and
the lies. They're going to side with
Israel. And they're going to see through
this stuff as clearly just propaganda.
See, I think it all actually boils down
to in some ways Independence Day. I
mean, for me it's There's something
about that that this holiday I kept on
thinking about Hanukkah. I kept on
thinking about Hanukkah because Hanukkah
is not a holiday that's in the Torah.
It's not a holiday that's even in the
Tanakh in the Hebrew Bible. But, it's
like a recognized holiday that everyone
around the world celebrates. Even
Christians recognize Hanukkah. It's like
she went to celebrate at the temple the
feast of dedication. That's Hanukkah.
But, it's not in the Torah. It's not in
the Bible. So, what is that? There was a
time that the Jewish people they were a
living a relationship with God and they
defeated the Greek Syrian army. They're
like, "We're making a holiday for God."
And then what's happening right now in
Independence Day is that just with these
stats that we were reading, there's
about to be a majority of Jews in the
world that are living in the land of
Israel. That hasn't happened since the
first temple. I mean, that hasn't
happened in a long time. And the fact
that people are celebrating that now as
a religious holiday. I mean, they're
going to synagogue and they're making
special prayers for that. It's like this
is the holiday of our generation. And
the people that see that the Torah is
alive, that God is alive, that we're a
part of the unfolding story just like
the people of Hanukkah back then, the
people of Israel are today. And that's
really That's going to be the dividing
line. Is the Bible alive? Is God alive?
And those that are living in a living
relationship with God, they're not going
to let one soldier over there make one
difference to them white right or left.
>> Can I just read something that your wife
sent out because there's a new siddur or
a special prayer book all for the day of
Independence Day. Really? Because
there's liturgy that has somehow been
calcified and solidified thousands of
years ago. And there's certain segments
within Judaism, particularly diaspora,
that refuse to even entertain the
thought of touching that or touching it
up or making something new. But, at the
same time here in the land, it's
impossible not to see the miracles. And
so, there's a new insertion into the
actual liturgy of Israel for that day of
Independence Day. And with your
blessing, I'm just going to read it. And
if it's too long, you can just edit it
out. The whole thing. Whatever.
It says, "We thank you for the
miraculous deliverance, for the heroism,
and for the triumphs of our ancestors
from ancient times until our time. In
the days when your children were
returning to the borders at the time
when our people took root in its lands
and its land as in days of old, the
gates to the land of our ancestors were
closed before those who were fleeing the
sword. When enemies from within the land
together with seven neighboring nations
sought to annihilate your people, you in
your great mercy stood by them in the
time of trouble. You defended them and
vindicated them. You gave them courage
to meet their foes, to open the gates to
those seeking refuge, and to free the
land of its armed invaders. You
delivered the many into the hands of the
few, the guilty into the hands of the
innocent. You have revealed your glory
and your holiness to all in the world
achieving great victories and miraculous
deliverance for your people Israel to
this day.
That is
about the war of independence. It's and
we say it and it's part of our prayers
because we see that miracle of God.
There's no way we would be here without
God's direct intervention in a thinly
veiled
mask of nature. But really the the hand
of God has been leading us the way until
this very day until this very war.
What's really beautiful about that is
that the first couple of sentences are
the same sentences that we say in our
liturgy for the holiday of Purim, for
the holiday of Hanukkah that we've been
still saying now for thousands of years.
And now that same liturgy is being
infused for what's happening for our
generation now. And you know, the after
the miracle of Hanukkah, the Hasmonean
dynasty lasted a sovereign nation of
Israel for 77 years.
And now it's the 78th year here in the
land of Israel. And I just find that
remarkable that we are not only not
going away, but we're getting stronger.
And it's just time to give credit to
where credit's due and to give praise to
God. And so I love the fact that there's
that new prayer that people are saying
now in synagogues all over the country.
I don't know if anybody knows this, but
Naftali Bennett put out a tweet that
said twice Naftali Bennett the
>> [laughter]
>> Yeah, we're like we're not so sure
what's going on with him, but we'll see.
Twice in history he he put out a tweet
on our our next post here. He says
twice in history we had a Jewish state
here in this land. Twice we failed to
pass the 77th year brought down by
international by internal strife and
baseless hatred. And we're sent into
exile. What is the twice? I don't know.
Yes, but it's really cuz I was a little
bit stumped by that too.
>> Why twice? Meaning the time of Ezra we
lasted here for several hundred years.
And the Hasmonean kingdom we lasted 77
years. So maybe that's just like a uh a
mistake by Naftali Bennett. That's what
I was wondering if any Uh not many of us
have a very good Yeah.
But anyway,
I think a lot of people may have seen
this and I was scratching my head. So I
was wondering if if there was any quick
answers to this. But that is really
awesome what you said though.
It's past we've passed like a historical
milestone. Totally. I just want to say
two things to wrap up this whole topic
and I have one more topic for us
potentially here on before we wrap up
today and regarding this Jesus statue,
number one, there there's two sides.
There's just like a basic principle side
like military ethics and things like
that which obviously this violated the
IDF, you know, moral code and everything
and they dealt with it. It's a one-off
situation. Israel should not be judged
on it. And from a faith perspective,
even though like Josh was saying
for someone like us, you know, where I
guess we'd be considered Protestant
Christians, definitely not Catholic.
Like the idea of icons and idols in
general
is is offensive to us, but we wouldn't
go out and smash idols.
And then there's a third Luke. Not
indefinitely, right?
So on both counts we consider wrong, but
I but I just want to to piggyback on
that for you say that. And I think it
was what Jeremy said at the end of the
day and you should mention this said
this very strongly on Piers Morgan.
Israel's winning. Yeah. And God's hand
is at work and the people of Israel are
turning back to God. And like this
one-off situation should not be should
not be considered as like
it should not represent Israel and it
doesn't. It's just the left-wing media
and those who hate Israel who are using
that to represent Israel. And like you I
think it was you Jeremy saying
why do we care about those people
anyways? They already didn't stand with
Israel. And so at the end of the day, if
you love God and you love the Bible and
you love Israel, like then stand with
Israel because Israel's winning. And
then like Israel is moving towards
redemption. And so if you want to get on
the bandwagon, get on the bandwagon. If
not, then see you. Like who cares like
it, right? So anyways, I have one more
topic, but did you have a third opinion
on that? Well, is it controversial? Yes.
So I'm just saying there's there's a
third group of or there's the third
opportunity. Like you you outlined two
politically correct kind of kind of
things, but then there is the Bible that
outlines and that's where some people
are taking very literally and there's
so many stories throughout the Bible
that are just not politically correct.
True. That's just that's just a fact.
And there there is
that third opportunity
for people to understand a situation
like this in a biblical context of
Gideon or you know, things like that. So
that is that just outline When Israel
there is another group When Israel's
restored and living under a God-honoring
Yeah. Well, the Sanhedrin. I was talking
to a Jewish guy about this. The
Sanhedrin The temple is restored then
there will be there will be the proper
biblical authority
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>> All of the land of Israel. But I have
one more topic and and this might be a
little controversial too and I'm
interested to hear you guys' thoughts
because there was a ceasefire.
I know we made it 45 minutes without
talking about Iran, but there was a
ceasefire that was supposed to expire
last night and the world was watching to
see if war would restart, right? With
Iran.
And Trump comes out I think yesterday.
And I just want to read it because it
feels like such an admission of defeat.
He says based on the fact that the
government of Iran is seriously
fractured, not unexpectedly so, and upon
the request of Field Marshal Asim Munir
and the Prime Minister of Pakistan,
we've been asked to hold off our attack
on the country of Iran until such times
as their leaders and representatives can
come up with a unified proposal. And
then he said, "So we're extending the
east ceasefire
indefinitely." No, not even he didn't
even put three They they said three to
five days and then they said that's not
true. But basically he's like, "Okay,
it's not working." There's a pretty
funny AI video of Trump just talking
about how, you know, we're negotiating
with Iran and there's nobody there and
they're we're bringing them to the table
and there's nobody there. And right?
Like
he's presenting this as a victory, but
it really feels like a defeat. So And
what does Pakistan have anything to do
with that? Right. So so but I was
looking at it this morning. It's
interesting because Israel was at war
with Hamas in Gaza.
There was a ceasefire.
And right now Hamas is refusing to
disarm and give up their weapons. That
feels like a defeat. There was a war
with Iran and then there's a ceasefire
and Iran's refusing to give up their
enriched uranium and their missile
launchers and ballistic missiles.
There's a video of ballistic missile
being paraded through the Tehran Square
yesterday.
And there was a war with Hezbollah in
Lebanon. And then there was a ceasefire
and Hezbollah is refusing to disarm and
get out of Lebanon. Feels like defeat in
three different places.
I read some information this morning
that I I I am now becoming of the
opinion that it's more of a victory than
appears on the surface.
But I'm interested to hear you guys'
opinion. This is why.
In all three of these situations
Israel's gone farther than they've ever
gone before. And right now Israel is
holding a large chunk, I forget the
percentage, of the territory of Gaza and
they're refusing to back off.
In Lebanon, Israel is holding a large
percentage of the southern territory of
Lebanon south of the Litani River,
refusing to back off until Hezbollah
disarms or is is obliterated, right? In
Iran, Trump and the the the United
States in coordination with Israel is
holding the Strait of Hormuz and
blockading the coast of Iran and
blockading the Kharg Island, refusing
letting oil out. And they're refusing to
back off. So obviously it remains to be
seen. We're in a a whole, you know,
waiting pattern here to see will they
eventually back off? And it's very
possibly they might be that they might,
but we've never seen this before. We've
always seen war ends with Gaza, they
retreat, they withdraw,
and then that goes back to normal. Same
thing with Lebanon, they retreat,
withdraw, goes back to normal. Right now
Israel is holding
a large part of the Gaza Strip, holding
a large part of Lebanon, and Israel and
the United States are are keep are
blockading Iran literally and are
crippling their economy. They're saying
they're losing $500 million a day.
Government might fall apart any moment
because just from an economic
standpoint. So anyways,
I that that was encouraging me, but I'm
curious to hear you guys'
pessimistic opinions of that.
>> [laughter]
>> I think that the the war isn't done yet.
I think that we are in the middle of a
long war, and this is just like a peaks
and valleys. And it's good to point out
that Israel's never been in a stronger
position, and Hezbollah's never been
weaker, and the Hamas has never been
weaker, and the Iranian regime has never
been weaker. So, in that way, Israel is
winning, but have we won yet? Is there a
victory declared? No way. But the fact
that we've taken land, that's a good
sign. Until we actually build Jewish
communities in southern Lebanon and
build Jewish communities in the Gaza
Strip, then we do not have victory yet.
And so, it's kind of just a process, and
I don't think that this ceasefire is
going to last forever. I think that it's
just a matter of time until the next
thing breaks, and eventually we will go
back to war. Yeah, I'll just say this
because I have to say something.
There's battles. Man, these are
different battles. Are we winning this
battle, losing this battle? Until we
actually win the war, and it's not even
the war against our enemies, it's war
against the idols in our own heart.
Until we win the war, which is to build
the temple on the Temple Mount, on Mount
Moriah in Jerusalem, the rest of it is
battles. That's what it's really about.
And when we shine that light, it's going
to be so beautiful and so blinding that
it will shift the entire fabric of
reality, of humanity, and we'll be
beating our swords into plowshares. We
won't learn war anymore, and that's what
we need to keep our eyes focused.
Everything else is just background noise
that just like in the days of the judges
and in the days of Joshua, where God
says, "I keep the enemies in the land to
test you, to test your hearts. Are you
following my word? Are you following
me?" We've just continued. We're back in
the land, and with the story is
continuing. And so, let's not get lost
on the enemies, and understand that it
is there as a deeper gauge for our own
hearts. Well, I do think that it's
important to recognize that like the
stories of the Bible are a prophetic
template. They're there to not just
stories of our history, but they are
prophecies of what the future They're
representations of what the future will
be. And this famous story that Saul had
Agag on his knees and didn't finish the
job, that's kind of a template for where
we're at right now, right before the
arrival of King David. We are exactly in
that Saul period. And so, the fact that
we haven't finished the job in Gaza, we
haven't finished the job in Lebanon, and
we haven't finished the job in Iran,
even though they're on their knees. All
three of those entities are just barely
surviving, and we haven't actually cut
off the head of Agag, that's because
that's where Israel's at right now, and
we're just kind of waiting for the
leader to rise up to actually finish the
job.
You know, I think um if we want to see
where we're really winning, we have to
look at the areas that the whole world
is not focusing on. The three areas that
you just mentioned is what everybody's
fairly uh you know, just enthralled
with. They're they're looking into those
zones. What you haven't seen in the
media is anything about Judea and
Samaria in quite a long time. Used to be
they were completely just just
enthralled with that that con It was all
about Hebron and Hebron and and
Jerusalem, East Jerusalem, and and up
here in Samaria, and
did you know while everyone else is
thinking about everything else?
>> out really positive news, actually. It's
an incredible thing. I was just talking
to the the one of the leaders here in
Samaria uh just last week. It just just
for Samaria, and I don't know what the
stats are for Judea, but just in
Samaria, there's a hundred new
communities being established. Uh that
is a humongous. I mean, massive. That is
that is um
way out of proportion for what we've
seen. The advancement of in this way is
humongous. We've not seen that in in I
don't think since the founding of the
country. A hundred new communities being
established. Like like the the
establishment of Jewish presence back in
the homeland is at a exponential rate
right now. The farms add on top of the
these small small Jewish
communities being established, the farms
on top of that, it's hundreds more. Like
we're talking about Jewish presence
being established again,
and it's miraculous
um you know, only
the prophets of Israel saw this
thousands of years ago and tried to put
it into words. Did put it into words and
beautifully. Uh and we're now seeing
that happen.
>> in 2000 uh
6, no, 2005, right? When Gaza was uh was
when they Gush Katif Katif happened, the
the the disengagement from Gaza. There
was Jewish communities in northern
Samaria that were also uprooted. Didn't
really make the news as much cuz like
you know, it was all the focus was all
in Gaza. But right now, Jewish
communities, some of the same ones are
being reestablished in northern Samaria
with full backing from the mili- the the
IDF, full backing from the Israeli
government. Um the the head of the
Samaria Regional Council was lived in
that community and was pulled out in
2005. Now he's he's back He and his
family are being reestablished
>> But I read something really interesting
that that was kind of shocking me on the
Jerusalem Post this morning saying that
a lot of this expansion happening in
Judea and Samaria is actually happening
with full coordination from the American
government and President Trump, which is
definitely not something that the
mainstream media is going to tell you,
but it's pretty encouraging if it's
true. See, I find it a little bit
discouraging if it's true. I would love
it
>> It's encouraging that there's an
American president that is standing with
Israel to the point Not not I would say
it's discouraging if you view it as,
"Oh, they've got permission from
America, and so they're expanding Judea
and Samaria." But if you view it as
they're expanding Judea and Samaria, and
and as a result, America's supporting
them, then I think that's encouraging.
It's encouraging for America.
>> a little both actually. It's encouraging
for America. I think blessing will come
to America. I also also thinking about
Trump that he's just such a good
businessman that he looks and says,
"Okay, I'm not up for election again. I
don't need to worry about people think."
But he's thinking about his legacy in
this world and the next. And he's making
a very good investment right now
standing against the Tucker Carlsons and
against this very loud voice from within
his own party saying, "You're supposed
to be a You're a slave to Bibi." He
could be reactive to that and say like,
"Oh, no, I'm not, and I'm going to do
this." But instead, he is acting with
integrity and with
courage. And he says, "My whole life
I've believed this. You think Bibi's
making me do that? It's a crazy thing."
But I would like it when if Israel was
doing this without needing to have a
pro-Israel. Because what about the next
administration? It begs that question.
The next administration, whether it's
Republican or Democrat that doesn't
support that, are we going to stop? So,
that's really the the thing that alerts
me the most. I'm also curious how much
they are depending on permission, you
know, or support from the United States.
Um because it feels like there's more
support inside of Israel than there's
ever been before. You have Bezalel
Smotrich, who's the finance minister,
but he's also the minister for like
settlement affairs or something. Um and
then you have the IDF, who we've
actually met a lot of the the heads of
the commands in these areas.
These guys are like I think he was out
here again yesterday, right? Supporting
the establishment of a farm.
But like there there is incredible
support from inside of Israel as well.
The head of the Central Command came and
gave a Torah lesson
at the synagogue, at the yeshiva, the
Jewish learning uh for for um what what
would be a yeshiva? Like a religious uh
school, like a Bible school. Here in the
Mount of Blessing, gave a 45-minute
lecture to the students of the Mount of
Blessing yeshiva.
This was the head of the IDF command for
this whole area.
Is that not redemptive? I mean,
is that not surprising? I mean, the
before today, this would just go right
along, Jeremy, with all the amazing
this awakening that's happening in the
land of Israel. Before,
you did not see religious people in the
top command of the IDF. That's new.
>> always a glass ceiling. It felt like
there was a glass ceiling that if you
had a kippah on your head, if you had
tzitzit, if you were a religious There's
only so high they're going to let you go
up before the deep state is like, "No,
no, no. We got to keep it in the family
here." I feel like that's been busted.
And these I mean, cuz these guys are uh
God-fearing, incredible. They're given
Bible lessons at that Bible school.
>> uh senior ranking IDF officers that work
under the Chief of Staff and the Defense
Minister uh over all of the different
regions and commands in Israel. Two of
them
were sitting right here at this table in
the last month, and both of them were
religious Jews. Yeah. And it And one of
them read He read He read to all of us
and all of his soldiers the letter that
he wrote to go in the introduction for
the IDF haggadah that they put out for
Passover. He had written it in the car
on the way here, and he's like, "I want
to read this to you guys and get your
feedback." It was like his letter for
Pesach, for Passover, and it was
amazing. Um Luke, I know we have to
close up, but there here's one last
thing that I wish to all the haters of
Israel that they would be like the man,
you know, I think of King David's words.
Um let all those who hate Zion be pushed
back uh be turned back and put put to
shame. There's an epic video of what I
wish on all of those haters as we um
This guy, he runs up to try to yank the
Israeli flag off of the uh of this thing
where all the nations' flags are up on
this wall. He runs
>> [laughter]
>> He runs up to grab the the flag, and uh
and yeah. He's going for the Israeli
flag. He almost gets it. He falls and
flat on his back. Um and so, yes, that's
that's this is my prayer for an entire
world
um that would choose,
if they will, to hate Israel, that that
would be their That's that's my my
desire for all of them. It's to be so
similar to this man. Uh but my hope is
that they would choose opposite, and
that they would come alongside and enjoy
it. And be a part of the blessing.
>> it's a good message. Like Israel's
winning. If you want to get on the
bandwagon, you better get on because at
some point, the option and the
opportunity is going to disappear. At
least biblically speaking, we're talking
a lot about the Bible today, and they're
There's no way we can have We have like
a clear barometer like who's winning
this war. The more that we continue to
settle and reclaim the land of Israel,
that's all you need to know. They don't
need to have like strategies and what
are the statistics and how many
ballistic missiles and that. Just the
land. It's all about the land. And as we
reclaim more and more land and settle
more land, plant more vineyards, then we
know that we are winning. I can't help
but to hear the words of, you know,
Isaac Abraham dug wells, and the
Philistines filled them in. Right? And
then Isaac re-dug the wells of his
fathers. That's what I think about when
in 2005 when for some reason the
government coupled the destruction of
settlements in Samaria to the uh
transfer of Jews out of Gaza and and
single-handedly handing it over which by
the way when you think about Tucker
Carlson and everyone's like oh this is
all a pretext October 7th was a pretext
for a land grab.
Let's not forget that we had the land
and we gave it over in hopes of having
peace for unilaterally for nothing. But
the point is we are re-digging the wells
of our fathers and that's a beautiful
biblical way to see it.
>> Beautiful. That's right.
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