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The Watch In Halacha - Rabbi Yakov Zev Smith
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1. Wearing a watch on Shabbos in רה״ר 2. The halachos for an expensive watch (זייגער חתן( 3. Woman wearing a watch on Shabbos 4. Winding a watch that is working 5. The halachos for a two or three day Yomtov 6. Wearing an automatic watch on Shabbos or Yomtov 7. Wearing a cuff link watch 8. Adjusting the time of the watch to the accurate time 9. Is a watch that isn’t working considered muktzah? 10. Watch that has other features 11. Accidentally went into a רה״ר while wearing a watch 12. Adjusting time or moving a wall clock 13. The halachos for a pocket watch 10 Kislev 5783
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automatic wind-up watch you know that's
basically you wear it instead of winding
it and doesn't go with the battery it
winds as you walk
and he was going to the square feet one
ton of you had to wear it on a two-day
jump to the three-day empty because
inevitably he's winding the watch as he
goes
then a different child from a different
cousin he got a gold watch very
expensive gold watch could he wear it
even on Shabbos even if there's no air
of
these are swear of problems we have with
you know he's going to the severe he's
afraid not to wear it
and the third question if someone has a
regular watch and let's say is it within
a narrative and the watch broke
so yes what to do to take off the higher
the broken watch might be considered
so taking it off here moving books but
then again wearing a a broken watch
might also be like is it is it is it
considered tilt to be a diamond
so as we'll see we have probably close
to 20 different shylists regarding the
watch on Shabbos or yamtiv
today they have solar powered watches
and we'll talk about changing the time
of of the of a timepiece uh winding a
toy winding a swing and we'll touch upon
basically three major suggests the Sugi
of tekum Kaylee
foreign but the truth is what makes this
sugier challenging and probably the
right word is gishmak because when
something is challenging and tired
up until kamat 100 years ago they didn't
have wristwatch they didn't wear wrist
watches now they had clocks and they had
grandfather clocks and desk clocks and
and they had pocket watches at plenty of
time device pieces
but the concept of the wristwatch that
we have today I I did the little
researchers just about
1925 limits Forum when they started
using it and a more common way
so you're not going to find the wrist
watch tonight and tomorrow night
speaks about a wall clock and and a
pocket watch but there's no mention of a
simple wristwatch
so we have to really try to look at
these site there's an apply a tower
wrist watch so first time I must make
two points
the halachas of today just like Shabbos
don't forget tick and Kaylee and muktsa
apply to you I'm David okay I saw it was
a little more lenient and we'll see even
if you don't wear a watch but as we'll
see we touch upon them as you saw this
that was we're going to see of taking
Kaylee heightsa and of course
I think the point that you have to
clarify the one the code that we have to
try to understand is a watch that
stopped going is not working either
because the battery burnt out or it it
needs to be wound again at the power
Reserve has depleted
a watch that's no longer working but
could be wound up is that considered a
broken watch
in other words we know the SF tick and
Kaylee is even a simple repair for
example the glasses fell out of the the
the screw fell out of his glasses so now
the temple is separate from the actual
glasses so they put the screw back even
if you you could do it you don't need an
omen to do it but to put the screw in
and attach the Temple of the glasses to
the glass itself
you can't even use it without screwing
it in
taken Kaylee is laughed after built with
a hard hat it's any type of impre a
correction repair of a Kaylee
so now the child is this watch for some
reason is not going or maybe itaki
didn't wind before Shabbos
the question is is an isaf taken to wind
it on Shabbos I mean the truth is you
look at it and you see that it wasn't
going after you round it it is going so
it's a form of triosa Mason is that
considered chicken Kaylee
foreign
or maybe you'll say wait a minute a
watch that's the way your watch works
you you wear it then you have to wind it
but it's it can we really honestly say
that a watch that's not going is broken
and here's the point that we have to
clarify you know the the quote the slang
Lush and that if it ain't broke you
can't fix it but we'll be more you know
more prop but if it's not broken you
can't fix it if the watch that's not
going is not considered broken then it
can't be ticking Kaylee ah you can't use
it as it is so then I'll give you a few
Michelle um you'll understand a a a
plate of China that you have to suit up
you can use it as it is you have to wash
it
did anybody say that washing a plate is
ticking Kaylee uh you can use it when
it's not clean
but the Mississippi lot of wash dishes
and Shabbos as long as it's for you
sunshabbas so why isn't washing dishes
of chicken Kaylee there's a spot
the plate is not broken that's better
you use it and you wash it
maybe you'll watch the same thing
I'll give you a better muscle
they started making thermometers to take
temperature so the Shiloh was that if
let's say a child has a high fever
Friday you know Friday evening
103 the muscle so you want to take the
temperature a few hours later to see if
the fever broke
but if you don't shake it down if you
don't if you keep it 103 it's not going
to be an accurate reading because it
doesn't go down
so there was some poison that said that
shaking down a thermometer is a problem
of taking Kaylee because you can't use
it as it is but most parties can say
it's not broken that's the death of me
so you don't buy a thermometer for one
time use
so shaking down the thermometer is not a
problem of taking Kaylee maybe a watch
also that's the way you use it and I'll
give you even a better muscle this is
what today is very popular let's make it
the more common child for us a person
has a table and one leg disconnected it
fell off
so of course you know how to repair that
that leg to the table that's a ticking
Kaylee in fact some saying I want to use
a whole table even with three legs
because you might repair it
so now let's give up what sounds like a
funny question but it's not funny let's
say suddenly you had the unexpected
guests and you need to pick a table so
run to the basement then you bring up
the soccer table that you folded away
and use it to one once once a year on
circus
so you look at the table it's folded in
half there's no legs
all you have to do open the table and
tighten it then open the legs and then
grab a fold the table why isn't using a
folder table chair or bed considered
ticking Kaylee mad that you can add one
leg to a table that's taking Kaylee here
I'm taking from a folded item it doesn't
even resemble the table and I'm making a
table
but the Mahaba says you're allowed to
use a fold up item because it's one
piece now the same says that if you have
a meter geltasium which is a Gamora
which basically means that when when
they used to travel so they would have a
bed that was made with pieces they
assembled it when they want to go to
sleep the next morning when they woke up
they took apart the pieces put in the
knapsack and they travel I guess they
don't have a mattress
but that meeting
because you're assembling a bed so why
is a fold-up bed chair or a table motor
there it says if it's not broken you
can't fix it if it's one piece that its
mode is defold it and open it it's not
broken
so here we see three Michelin that even
though you really in a certain sense
you're making something you're making a
usable plate a thermometer and a table
but if it's not broken you can't fix it
I'll give you another muscle you blow up
a balloon the only problem with longer
balloon is because you might come to
make a knot and that's a cashier that's
a question that's gonna come to stay
but no one says blowing the balloon is a
ticking Kaylee
character that's the way it's used you
blow it then you take out the air
so the question very simply is a clock a
watch that's not working and you wind it
are you being the second Katie if it is
you can't do it if for some reason this
is the day of touch me then it should
then this should not be a problem
so again they didn't have wrist watches
but I'm gonna tell you what the Panama
here is I think the one the first that
discusses this is
he discussed what's called a Myra Choice
which basically is the Los Angeles term
for a watch Daily call that's a Hebrew
word but basically he's talking about a
clock
and it's interesting we think we have
funny tumbles there was a scandal about
a Rob that he would move the clock I
guess it was a desk clock to see what
time it is and the quote the Lawson he
was if he used to speak many hours three
hours but he didn't want to speak more
than that
they used to speak three hours but not
more
conversations yeah but not more than
common choice
so I used to move the watch the I'm
sorry the wall the desk clock to see
what time it is
and how could this rub move the clock
everybody moves clocks
that was the end of him
explains look why don't you look
carefully look up the Macabre look at
them in the Mario you'll see the shot
the Muriel was
a question of madida measuring now what
are you measuring with a clock or watch
they used to have a sand dial that will
tell the time or measure time an hour
let's say a three-hour speech was the
this clock
so then you're measuring time that's
medida and therefore smoked so but our
clocks are not measuring sand it's just
the time is going
there's no problem so even if when you
learn you'll see
that's a Sandile but not our clocks oh
but then the Panamera says by the way
not only you're allowed to move the the
clock but I believe that even a lot of
wind it and those days was not like wine
like today but they were pulling a
string to make the chain but I believe
that even wind this to sell shell Less
on Shabbos
because La Mesa meeted the Javier meter
that we said that the case of the bed
the folding bed
and Mother's Day you're making a better
smoother because it's all one piece and
it is a normal testamentions
so too says them Panama Heroes and he's
very confident that the like that this
room is a bizarre MIDI meeting
and he seems to be learning out the head
of Direction
at the end he repeats himself the deity
heptagamore and don't worry
so we have a Panama erase to Wine to
collect presumably even when it stopped
working
it's not broken
however there are mahmirim and I should
mention the primogada means erase
he says
because the Miser you are making from a
dysfunctional clock to a functional
clock now it's working
foreign
found the Gomorrah that seems to be a
source for the Issa winding a watch now
you listening to the riot and you see
what you think the gamarin air van kuf
gimmel speaks about a harp Aquino that
you have to adjust it in other words you
can't just play an instrument on a
string it has to be exactly the right
position top and bottom and this
loosened and you can't use it as it is
says that you can't type you can adjust
this harp on Shabbos
why not taking care
of them is how to adjust a harp
so on Saturday that's where he uses
andreian a clock
and right now it's not working at all
it would be awesome to do it I'll stay
concave and even they ask a guy to whine
the clock is awesome
so what he's saying is that just like
you can't repair a harp you can't repair
the watch so he's saying basically that
a clock that's not working is indeed
broken
now the mice is a big monkey like
between a clock and a hop a harp is
broken
it's supposed to It's Made to stay and
that's supposed to disconnect if it's
broken and more so you need a mice to
Oman to repair it that could be taken
Kaylee
but tiny the Pharisees wrong to kill his
Shabbos
if the quotes Irvin
he says but a clock that's the way it's
used
you wind it it goes for a few hours and
you have to wind it again
so he back to square one if it's not
broken you can't fix it
there's a very beautiful very thorough
tube and this the two was Hara caramel
similar if it's been to the end of the
two is very small and he's also Mako
it's not macabrepatish it's not broken
and
he says I don't believe the problem is
because it's not broken but hazinis does
say there is a problem with winding a
watch because La Mesa as a lotion is you
being a yatzer you're creating a koyage
until now the watch is not working now
it's working
so that's a form of makabapatish it's
not the winding of the watch but it's
making the watch go from non-functional
to functional because
but the embassies
is also Mako for the same reason and
what I found interesting that the
children may have a that's the talmud
movement
he says
this can't be that the normal
establishes is considered a Misa a macro
package and it gives a funny muscle but
you think about it's a very penetrating
muscle let's say you have a clarinet and
you pick it up on Shabbos and you blow
it is
ask yourself why can't you play an
instrument on Shabbos is there a bonan
show me a second Glacier Frank D two may
have a why don't we say it's because the
clarinet lays on the table it doesn't
make noise so when you're blowing it
you're activating it
so you can't play instruments
Terraces no that's the Derek histam
shoes it's not considered macrobatus he
used the motion of a clarinet I think a
balloon is also a good muscle no one
says blowing a balloon is Mack of a
practice
and that's why I could say many pie skin
disease
base the end of Simon Huff quotes from
the marshak that was Mako because it's
any child could wind The Watch
the mice it's interesting although we
have a great case to say that winding a
watch that stopped is
stopped you can't wind it
because there is a Toyota Camry scheme
as he's gracious for the Prima Gotham
and the kayodam and he quotes uh
foreign and I must mention again even
though there are many makilim but the
shaver a lady and daligid
basia's Tube is
that has become we don't wind a watch
that stopped working
so that's step number one what's much
more challenging
is why watch now that's still
going in other words let's say your
watch typically runs for 24 hours and
typically you always wind it right
before listening
this Shabbos Arabs obviously forgot so
you calculated less than you wanted it
was a Friday morning Shabbos morning
it's all over gonna be dead can you wind
it now Friday night when it's going
so we'll stay for Shoppers now we're not
talking about
you know whatever's extras and there's a
you know
this is more of an unavoidable on a two
or three day octave let's say some
watches go for 36 hours but none go for
for 48 or 72 hours so you need to do
something
to wind the watch but here the mileage
it's already going so the question is if
it's going it's certainly not broken if
it's not broken you can't fix it
so the embassies it could be even the
mahmir of the Prima godim and the hayab
that acid winding a watch that stopped
will be makal if it's going
now but this is a unique situation
because the mice you do want to give it
more energy you want to otherwise it's
going to stop so you're giving like a
chicken
it's like you know a layaway plan for a
ticket
so we could definitely say in swar it
makes sense it's mutta but we don't work
as far as we have to find radius so
symbols
an animal and you have to Salt it we
call kashri within three days if you
don't sold the cash within three days
then your meat is awesome it's only Moto
if you roast it get out the blood but
you can't cook it
foreign
question let's say you shifted 12
o'clock Wednesday afternoon
shab is 12 o'clock the meat's gone to
become awesome
because he didn't salt it before Shabbos
so right now it's Friday night and he's
all panicky if I don't do something with
the the soon then it's gonna be awesome
can he wash the meat till wash his hands
he'll see a dime and wash over the meat
he'll put water on on the meat
if you
rinsed it
then it's not us we have another three
days to capture it
so here think about it you're the
similar situation the meat right now is
okay
tomorrow it's gonna be awesome is it
traffic by putting water tonight to save
tomorrow
and more emphatically than I'd be hold
up in a beautiful tuba in tinyona
Simmons
don't even consider it a problem of
tekkun and who this main focus is
a pool to the meat but El girabba says
it clearly that right now the meat is
okay what's your problem
and he Compares it to Allah if you have
cut vegetables that you want to keep
them fresh
cut them before Shabbos you ought to put
it in water because right now it's not
spoiled you it's preventive preventive
approach
so isn't this analogous to our case your
wine need to watch Friday night it's
working
it's like they're like putting water on
the meat now the the Buddha doesn't make
this connection but to show the massive
in in
gimmel whose Mako about winding a watch
grab them like like we saw earlier like
other pie skin but he said but he said
he says this you saw it he Compares it
to the case of salting watering the meat
on Shabbos that's motor
so to here but then he says
even if you hold like some sheets that
you can't put water on the meat Friday
night that's awesome because it's a
chicken that I understand because this
meat is awesome right now it has blood
in it meat and blood isn't there's no no
good connection none of us you could
capture it and get it out but right now
it's awesome so maybe be my dear to meat
is a form of chicken because there is a
problem with the meat but this watch
is perfectly functional what's the
problem
so you have one good sword that when a
watch is going
it's even better than than this than the
meat that needs a little bit rinsing
oh that's all different because the end
of us you're keeping it going okay good
good there's a question of
keyboard okay that's a good point hope
to do that difference here timers and
alarm clocks as a whole set for itself a
good good sound now but we could even do
better listen to a perfect Demian the
treatment has discussed the question
that comes up many forms but the kids
lets you have a fill-in that one of the
letters Apostle mom is puzzle
so you can't just repair it like they
say for tire up because the world has to
be considered so if it's possible you
can't correct it Trump's attention was
this let's say you have a lettering on
on filling and it's failing it's getting
lighter and lighter right now it's
caution but if you wait six months it's
gonna fade it's gonna be possible can
you now go take a uh you know a quill a
pen and go over the lettering so you
could stay for many years
or maybe it's like decision
what do you mean I was caution no
problem
it's preventive you allowed to do it now
to keep it later
hey this is
a watch that's going is not a problem
because right now you're just giving it
energy to go fight it but it never broke
and we're back to square one if it's not
broken you can't fix it
here again I must say that our place in
the next line says even when it's going
since
you can't wind the watch even when it's
going now the Maison I did do spoke to
someone who knows about watches that
when a watch is fully wound it is more
efficient and also the mechanism is
maintained when a watch is what is going
on low in energy it uses it deteriorates
the quality of the of the watch
so maybe in a certain sense we can
understand when when the power Reserve
is almost depleted maybe there's
something wrong with the watch because
doesn't have full energy
and that's probably explain why because
not to wind the watch even when it's
going but I must add the monkey tests
says that he rather hell that it's more
to the winder when it's going but he has
someone else to do it but he felt in its
motor rewind the watch that's going The
Orleans
that I mentioned are also Mako
so we could say that when the watch
stopped all the boys you can't wind it
if it's still going the Mr Brewer our
place against
when this becomes more challenging is a
self-winding watch now let me just say
basically what it is is watches can
either go with a battery that goes for
hopefully a year or so
there's a watch that you have to wind
and again it goes 36 whatever depending
on the quality of the watch they design
it's interesting when did they design it
I saw a trooper from the hell Casio
dated tough race static test 1939 less
than 15 years if they started using
wristwatches they already were they
upgraded it to automatic watches so it's
not it's not a new thing 1939 they had
the automatic watches
so the child is
by wearing a automatic watch
because basically every movement you're
winding it so it's almost unavoidable
that you're winding a watch on Shabbos
says what's that they're wearing
automatic watch it's inevitably a
ticking one of my watched now of
course if you all you had a wine the
watch that's going so there's no
different we're talking about like those
that are made
gimmo
he says that this is a really only
winding
As you move
so he calls it up secretia into
durabanans first of all the whole
winding when the watch is going can't be
at their icing because it's not broken
is okay that's what he wants to
singer it says
this is the normal way of doing it you
know you wanna you wanna wind to buy a
regular watch but this is the normal
mode of wine in fact he says something
very Exquisite it's made me have an
obsequentia maybe it's a mice of your
diet the grace she means you do
something something else this is the way
to do it
and that's why Lamesa it's it's really
hard to say that this is a shinoy it's
not a Shino it's I mean it's maybe
literally
but there is a different side to be
making a beautiful einfeld
that basically the first first we could
say well if some hold you could even
wind the watch that's going you know
even when you're dying but but I saw him
he says that the starting point is you
have to have a major ticket to say
something is awesome now when you wind
the watch there is a mice a tick and
you're winding it but something like
this a to new account that a person does
and he does it hundreds of times a day
is it logical to say he made hundreds of
ticket monitors during the day
in other words
the what he says is that when something
is like as simple as this that you're
not even doing a mice of tikkun
so it can't be broken
if you ever watch that you have to wind
every 36 hours we'll say when it stops
maybe it's broken but this way of using
is whenever you move it winds it so you
can't say it's constantly being fixed if
it's not broken
he does say if you pick up the watch
when it's not working you tackle the
user you left it Thursday afternoon
you've got the shop as you pick it up or
you put it on your hand you say
automatic work I'm gonna Wind It Go
that's not good because picking it up
already starts to wind it but his point
is that something as frequent as this
that's that's the way it's used is not
never broken winding it if you need
winding you might say that's a ticket
but automatic is not a ticket at all
and then I saw the shave at alive
he has an incredible approach and he
says with Grace the places
got a strange case but it has a lot of
relevance that will still give they used
to want to man they always wanted to
produce silk you know as in a silk tie
so they had silkworms and the silkworms
produce silk ties but they but they they
had worms that the beginnings the Zera
of toyloid the beginnings of these worms
and you have to keep it warm incubated
so to speak so they kept it on on the
underarm in a place that it was warm on
the body so the body warmth would
stimulate these Zera tell them to be the
hatch and they should have silkworms so
the Mahaba says that that you know how
to do that on Shabbos and there's two
stars one as far as this Tilton boxer
and one Suarez you're creating silkworms
the your body heat is is creating these
worms
so the soil set up so if you can to
create worms with your body so how could
you shake how could you wind the watch
with your hand
so you saw it that he uses in a lot of
ways
and he says the dimming is no good
because the olive of Shabbos is
equations
but the starting point before Mark
service is the word malacha
foreign a person that's going on Shabbos
is going to school and he's saying is
far with his hand and waving to someone
with his hand and he's using his hand to
make kiddish there's no malaka of of
winding a watch
normal activities
if you wind your watch with your hands
that could be a Malachi
naturally and moving his hands
constantly that's not a malaka wine
watch
it is nothing to talk about
but he says why is any sane person
keeping these serotonins on their arm
he's having to do in Islam oh then you
have Mercedes then you have cavan and
you have you call it whatever you want
but here it's not a misis and there's no
cavan because the watch is going
and that's why he feels there's no
problem with this automatic watch
the heart 3 is also quoted as being
Michael hey
and basically even though the K you
attest he mellowed samat and he said
also that you could wear these automatic
watches the kids the classic safe in the
khashabis the only issue is as we soon
see a two or three that yam till get
back to that soon
today they have what's called solar
powered watches actually the solar power
recharge the battery and that keeps the
watches either the Sun or light
so the embassies we have the same
ethereum like we have by an automatic
watch
it's probable that there's a little more
of a head to with the solar watches
because there is a step removed you go
into the Sun and they recharge the
battery now then what after the
batteries you charge then it goes more
but this could be that the automatic
watches is more of a more a little more
of a miser than the solar power that you
were charging the battery first but any
case the solar powered battery is not a
problem
I'd like to pose an interesting question
let's say a person had a watch that
battery operated he was afraid it might
burn out on Chavez whoever it is so
before Shabbos he bought a battery and
it's me
it's always
he knew he might use it on Shabbos can
you replay on Shabbos or yamta it is can
you replace the battery
so obviously if you can't wind the watch
that stopped Avada Nevada you can't
replace the battery but I'm wondering
like the part of my ear is the a lot of
wine to watch that that stopped
can you replace the battery
because if we say winding is more dirt
because it's not broken maybe this watch
is not broken and you might even say
that winding is worse than replacing the
battery because winding you are creating
all that energy that power battery the
power was there
but the same as almond who is Michael
regarding will soon see the guy be
winding white so they're going
especially but he has he says he had two
tubers one was writtenishment
that even if you're able to wind the
watch but replacing the batteries vadios
okay right
but the problem uh so so through this
some people could change the battery
okay good you're all good but he says a
more better time
going back to tickling Kaylee you can't
put a new shoelace into a shoe I was
taking careless and you're dying that's
what you're doing here not as shoelace
is a battery winding has a Miler you're
not repairing to add some watch this is
a repair of the ad so much and that's
why replacing the battery is also the
holidays good next question is adjusting
the time let's say the time is off and
you're a punctual person
can you adjust the time on Chavez so
yeah just move the dial the watch is
going the clock is going
those you put mostly probably remember
years ago not so long ago they used to
change the clock on the summer
a few weeks later they do now now they
they moved it up a few weeks I remember
vividly it was a once changed the clock
but Soy Shabbos on pesach paper Pace was
Shabbos and Sunday Missouri Shop if they
change the clock and all the soyuz were
like beside themselves what are we gonna
do it's the wrong time change the clock
not change the clock the old time new
time against the gunson against
can you take out the clock off the wall
and change the time
so what's the question the same question
is it broken then you can't fix it but
who set a clock that's an hour or two
off is broken especially if you have a
guitar so you look at the time it's not
10 30 it's 11 30. you don't have to be a
big long then just to convert it to an
hour a big deal or it's a half hour 30
minutes 25 hours
so the embassy is there's a famous I
don't know if you ever said it but
everybody says to be smart
what's worse a watch that stopped
working or watched this the wrong time
everybody says watch that stopped
working is wrong crimes is not true the
watch that stopped working twice a day
is accurate
to watch that's the wrong time is
inaccurate the whole day
so if he said it or not but if if that's
the truth then I could understand that a
watch that's that's the wrong time is
broken
but then again
you could in your mind you could convert
it and also what are you doing moving
dials you know maybe you've more power
you wind it
this is 10 30 now it's 11 30. so it's
not even broken
the calculus Shabbos that I mentioned
the Dr Khan but I mentioned the bear
moisture
even wearing automatic watches Michael
by adjusting the time
is
he says once for is that you could
adjust it in your mind
I the problem is people don't know the
problem will use the wrong time so that
he says that there's no sticking in the
watch and this point is the Sheamus is
to turn the dial when you have to but
it's not bro it's not broken you're not
being the second like winding up a watch
and he seems to be makeup foreign
not to adjust the time of a clock
but later in
says
as we saw this most poised my makeup in
fact even the Khazana has a problem of
its
by winding but it's not a problem by
adjusting the time so definitely if a
person is
makeup but even without that it seems
that this is not a form of taking Kaylee
at all the next group of questions is
muktsa and this is an intern so a very
fascinating turn of events in awasuke
here's the question
can a watch that's going
is is there any muktu to watch that's
going or watch that stopped
so first of all
a watch that's that stopped because it's
not wound
would that be a broken watch we would
consider broken watch because we don't
wind watch it on Shabbos
is that considered
muktsa because right now it's stopped so
the highest since our minigers we don't
wind the watch that stopped Mr Burris
Heights weather Isa
it's a broken watch
unlike a folding table chair that's not
broken you could open it on Shabbos but
a watch that stop is dysfunctional so
basically it's a Chevy
now if you have a fancy watch that you
would wear even if it's broken up a
gold watch so it's not broken I mean the
toxic faster is not broken but says the
player Shabbos
because the watch stopped so disability
is
basically any watch that's not working
whether the battery burnt out or it's
broken fell down or even if it stopped
you have to rewind it is considered
now you might say but the date is still
accurate I could use the date but that's
not the shimmage of a watch
now this is the easy part
someone asked me what he thought a
brilliant child
is a bosses even if the bus is his
header the bus takes on the identity of
what's a base for a contemporary muscle
a computer desk and desk is not booked
up but a computer desk is a buses to the
desk and therefore the computer desk is
locked up right so he wanted to know a
battery like you all said is muktsa so
the watch is a buses to the battery how
could you be a battery operated watch on
Shabbos I told you make new mistake
because tackle the computer table is a
base for the computer but you don't buy
a watch to hold the battery
what's me me nipple but me the batteries
they have service to watch so it's
unreasonable to say that the watch is a
busted battery
that's not a problem what is a problem
and this is a beautiful Aura where is
the gimbal cinnamon mem test was asked
about a old-fashioned uh fan or a clock
electric clock if you still have it plug
it into wall and it tells time maybe it
has an alarm to it but you plug it into
the wall and it goes whether it's a fan
clock refrigerator any type of electric
appliance
because it's going with electricity but
you let him move it let's uh Governor
McClain mate you let him move with the
fan turned on you to see the time
but if it's up but the head is
the tail
to save the cave you can't move
or maybe you'll say it's
it's anything else
so Moshe says there's a time God the
Lesser because you need electricity to
keep it going and therefore it's not a
Christian
and you can't move itself again you can
move it to your own use if you need them
so someone asked me oh I bazoi a battery
operated watch is also having generating
power from the battery
do you tell me that it's a cliche will
lock the list and you can't move it if
you left it out in the rain or a child's
gonna play with you you can't move me
handle the tail
so here I again I think there's this
question is based on an error because
the truth is hard to understand
why is a clock electric clock instead of
mixer
but Shabbos you're okay right that's why
you get filters so why is electric
you plugged in an air Shabbos but now
it's not our shop that was shot I'm not
doing anything
inside
if you plug it in Arab shop is but you
still need electricity to keep it going
on Shabbos so the fact electricity is
being generated might make it a
melancholis so his lotion is Tom goggle
because you need electricity to keep it
going once you made the gefilte fish
it's fine
according to this understanding a
battery-operated watch that does not
need electricity the electricity is all
in the battery you're not doing a car
there's no continentality taking place
and taco the battery operated watch is
not a problem even like your Maisha
who's Christ is by a electric appliance
and the biggest ride is in the save
until too late Shabbos Sim and Olive the
first two of them and Maisha was asked
about a battery operated watch is that
it's not looked up and I guess the
headsback said you're not you don't need
electricity to generate it so therefore
to move a watch of any sort not only the
circle of McLean but even Muhammad the
sale is okay
now the challenging but where the
question is when a person is wearing a
watch and it broke either some reason it
stopped working battery burned out or he
banged the wall the watch is not working
what should he do
the assumption is that taking it off
he's moving books but maybe by wearing
it is
be a diet but that's incorrect because
that we mentioned earlier and shin has
member of about the silk the worms under
his underarm he says one of these
suramisa ah you're not moving it with
your hands the terrorist is what's the
dark and that's the Derek then it's
Tor Isa
that's the normal way of moving it Sam
is on the feet not in the hands that's
tilted pagama so this is
what should you do it's broken take it
off it's tilt to be a diamond keep it on
is moving uh almost tilt to be a Die
Young
so he lives
he points out correctly that taking it
off is a miser of tilt to be dime a new
Miser tilde this is resuming continuing
what you're doing till now so once it
was on the head to so to speak whatever
it is maybe take you later go bite them
so he thinks it's worse Paka believe it
or not to take it off be a die him then
keep on going as it is on your hand but
you have to realize that let's even on
yamdiv you shouldn't be going out and
just Arab with a watch that's broken
because it's a cloud
so you might end up carrying it so the
best states that really which avoids all
issues very simply put is take it off if
you can with your teeth a tilto the
goofy of the watch that's
once it's off then of course you could
then you drop it down and you have no
problem at all
today there are watches that have
digital display yet and you have to
press a button to light up so that is
real Shabbos of course says
that if there's no way of using it
beheta okay pressing a button of either
that would be in this of
on Shabbos to do and therefore the watch
becomes because you have no way of using
it bad
now people ask her but let's say I have
a watch that's I could see the time but
there's a feature I want to see the date
I have to press a button
so body can't press the button on
chapter so I have to put a black on the
button I mean by about a small black so
and the truth is it it makes sense
Tucker put on a black you know put on
cover tape but I can't say there's a key
if they put on a cover on that type of
Watch
to make a cover on the button on your
watch we don't have the jurisdiction to
make new takons I always say it's
probably more Mustafa to put a cover on
the light in the bathroom people wake up
at night then they go in and half asleep
they put on the light
and the worst thing is when they do that
and they close by quickly so they think
that's even worse so make it they have
to put a lighter Beth might have black
there it says you could say what you
want you can make your own you know
smyrus but you can't make an Isa
durabanon to wear a watch without a
cover on that button also the truth is
the original case of the black he could
do Tui Suite with one stoke
havara of the fire increasing the fire
and also like here pressing this button
at Moses and probably an LED light is
not either more than their bottom
solemiser if you want to put on a tape
on it you want to be shiny Shabbos and
uh you'd be ashamed you know soccer you
want to be very careful wonderful you
can't say is to have a cover on the
watch as long as there are functions
that are without the button you're okay
now someone asked me I have never seen
this before he showed it to me he has a
new type of watch it it measures your
blood pressure heart rate and
temperature he said he first been used
to get very scared because he thought he
was dead I said well he because he
looked he saw the numbers are so high
then he realized it was the temperature
not his heart rate heart rate supposed
to be in the 40s 50s this is like 100 or
so so you got nervous you know 80
whatever I know what it was got all
nervous I said you know so you have to
be careful that there that these watches
are probably my Shoppers because every
as you're going it's measuring the heart
rate and the blood pressure and it's a
digital digital display is being changed
so every movement is causing some type
of activity
we had a question about interesting
Asylum they had a wall clock on the wall
and the kids could the child that was
different Shabbos could not sleep it was
tick tick you know they're one of these
regular clocks they have a little he's
getting all nervous you want to take it
off the wall put it outside and put it
back the next morning
is a wall clock
s
okay take it up because of the noise or
you want to adjust the time like those
that I make up
so the Mr Brewer and shinch has
listen to this he says although the
Mario hell a sand dial is muktu no he's
talking about uh probably a pocket watch
or a desk clock it's not much like I
told you because it's not there's no
medida going on but
I was told is a German word for clock
vandor is a wall clock also the title
why doesn't say why so the shot is
gimbal see if you die and explains that
whenever you say I wanted to stay there
is almost like it's a it's like
no it's not a song Because necessarily
but it's he brings a Raya and he says to
this concept is the the wall the clock
on the wall that basically the Mr Brewer
quoting Saratoga says it's
because this is Markham
if you never move the clock punct is a
need for it the clock should be treated
as much now I told this person if your
son is always sensitive and every the
night he takes it out of the room so
it's not experience Malcolm if the shoe
is constantly being the time is being
changed so it's not if he is Malcolm but
it is a legitimate Prius Marco and a
Konami you should not move it
next question also fascinating because
his mom is from a different angle today
they have toys that you winded and the
the car goes and the robot walks today
they even have swings that go you know
we used to push a child today you can't
do that because it's the you know
instant Society you wind it up and it
swings on its own can you wind a swing
or toy on Shabbos
so I hope this sounds familiar because
if you hold that you can't wind the
clock watch that stop because it's
ticking Kaylee so why is it robot or a
swing any different
and taka the xiaomi Huda
it's dysfunctional to function
now La Miser I would say many place my
makeup and as far as passion the
starting point is if it's broken
and these toys they have a use in a
manual form before you wind it you could
push the swing but you're dying so happy
you say it's bro that this tickling if
it's not broken
and representative
tremendous analytical mind he's Mako and
he has another sorrow he says a watch is
broken because it's supposed to be going
at all times or at least 36 hours
straight the toy it's not supposed to be
gone all the time is that going you want
to use it so this is the normal
establishes normal this time just can't
be tickled and he says an interesting
analogy many doors haven't they haven't
but it basically it's a spring in the in
the thing that connects the door to the
to the actual door post so when you open
it you push it open there's a spring
that gets wound and that spring that you
created by pushing door in that closed
the door it's an old-fashioned spring
you open the door you turn the spring
and that close the door
on it like winding up the watch that's
the normal establishes you're using it
50 times a day he's no you're not
breaking and fixing it
and that's why he is
because basically it's not broken so you
have a manual use of it and it's not
broken attacking the bear motion
on makeup do you want to be very firm
the hydrant so I would advise you first
push the child and as the thing is going
manually then wind it up then you have a
head to like winding a watch that's
going
that's really much like Manny Pacific
the only reservations himself points out
this is
a problem because by winding a toy or or
a or a swing that's a yeet and the fact
that you could do it manually doesn't
make a difference you're creating this
functional kayak so later we have to
step back
but the other place
so basically we have a sword to be make
especially if you push it now the
question is whenever there's an Issa of
winding a watch in any case is there any
head ID so it's very simple
amirula akum to quote one rub he says he
has a problem about them they think he
said they told me he says they think I'm
here is a way of life
they don't know what's in Islam so
but foreign
says regarding winding a watch
that stopped the worst scenario High
yeah
he says
wine to watch now why should why should
I need a watch that's wound so maybe uh
he has to eat with you and he has to
space it out in clear Hill or maybe I'll
take his medicine very punctually but
Kyle needs a watch that stopped you'll
have a guy buying the watch
another important cooler that wind it
when the watch is going even though I'm
here but to have a guy wind it so to
continue going throughout the Shabbos
not only foreign
if it's okay available I mean Israel's
gonna be doing biodium
that's basically the
clubhouse puts it very beautifully
whenever it's an Issa the Riser we can't
have a guy do it it's our button then we
only ask for and for amitsub we can have
a guy to a durabano now people asked I
heard there's a difference two day or
three-day is it such a the difference of
a Shabbos or two or three days
so the truth is it's only a technical
reason why there is a click and I'll
explain
if a watch the battery burned out so
there's no difference
and you can replace the battery two day
three day
where it is a big hillock is on a
regular wind-up watch or a automatic
wind up because again to my knowledge
none of them could go first for three
days straight I was told between 30 and
40 hours it goes if it's fully wound
so the problem is you have a two or
three day until you want and you very
much want to have a ticket on the watch
if before Shabbos you have your
automatic wind or you wound up the watch
so it's going so even if it's be
automatically wound you don't need it
but to watch the best watch cannot go
for two or three days so you want to
wind it as you walk you want to use the
Autumn Wind feature
so the Chevrolet gimbal the end of
Simmons have anxiety and he says
although I was Mako by an automatic
watch but a two or three day yum
division because if you can if it
doesn't have enough power to go for
three days so when you're going you're
in Italy you want it to you can't just
say I'm just looking I want it but he
says
and I understand where it's coming from
because what his assumption is it's not
broken number one is going and number
two there's no my system
but they might say I think developed
this crazy for two or three-day optif to
avoid using a watch that automatically
winds now I should also add that summer
Michael
even though
in our Trail they don't have to say
typically but he says
could be a lot of wine to watch or at
least certainly in an automatic wine
because
also he tells you to be mindful don't
wind
and the last question if I saw glad we
once spoke about it and today
everything's recorded you can't repeat
things but I want to mention the details
that we have to know basically the
halache is
in a place where there's no area of
his only motive it's a Malibus a
baguette a toxic
Albus it's a serious
and the cufflinks
the question when they started wearing
wipes and again not before 1925 they
didn't even have wrist watches Mr Brewer
says now that we are pocket watch about
that that's but they started
making this watch
is that a weird pushes her out but
there's no air Anaya
so most players can say a wristwatch is
none of the above it's not a Mile Bush
so watch not attack unless you have
an expensive custom watch is
the tell time you know I would carry uh
something just because you need it it
has to be one of the above it there
emphatically
says his feeling is anything worn on the
body
on the gulf becomes a Mile Bush if it's
worn regularly and he doesn't just say
he has beautiful radius eye and Sham but
he said that that a watch is head out
small Bush so like me by a fancy watches
attached it even a plain white is a
malbush
now La myself
this is also quoted as taking this
approach
but the problem is as I told you many
players can take strong exception to
this and again each have rice it's not
like just you know approximating this
it's a beautiful sugar but I think when
you could hear the Shia lab is today
which become a very pressing issue
people have to go to the hospital and
Shabbos they went before Shabbos they
have to go on shops visit the patient
whatever it is and you can't get into
the house without an ID bracelet a cheap
piece of plastic you keep it on the end
and you show the security guard
otherwise you can't get in
if you're going in a place where there's
no area are you allowed to go out with
that ID bracelet it's not a toxic I mean
he might feel proud that he became a
father but it's not a taxi it's not a
malbush
and and it's not a circle
so the police can say this is a problem
you'll have to work it out with the
security guard what to do but there's a
problem
says that he's that even they shouldn't
wear watch on Shabbos even though she
taught soy because people confuse a
watch with a pocket watch and it tells
his tummy them that you should not wear
watches out of an area on Shabbos at all
so that's why we don't wear watches on
Shabbos if those are where you can to
scold them and but he says
the question has become a gold watch a
custom zagon Shabbos is that different
he said well no problem
because it's a taxi I'm not sure why but
I think according to a watch because you
might wear the wrong watch maybe the
same is by a gold watch to a regular
watch but that I'm not sure about but I
think I am sure Mr Burns
says that really make it didn't even
attacks and a whole sugar why women with
him it's only gonna get used to it Mr
Blue says women got used to it you could
wear but men equal to give aega
should not wear a taxi on Shabbos
so if you don't wear ring on Shabbos so
even a watch that attacks according to
Mr Brewer should be a problem
I should mention women for some reason
we are playing cheap watches on Shabbos
that's a turkey if it's not a taxi
you're back to the original Allah
watches but the good news
a gold a cufflink watch that which
basically has a watch in the cufflink
that's most of the holidays because
that's taka a sorry from Albus and even
Myself by watches this is the cufflink
and that's
foreign
the uh yeah you know I'm gonna find
someone else congratulations
second one
okay so we're working on the clock so uh
so we're starting this year the secret
right away and the watch and Allah
created with swatches we had a beautiful
circuit today as you saw but just to
briefly review The Claw is if it's not
broken you can't fix it and that's why a
folding table is and knocking a
thermometer down his motor and certainly
washing plates and but um but the Crux
of the issue that we discussed today is
a watch that stopped is it broken if
it's broken
so basically as we saw today that if the
watch is not going so even though
they're making them because it's not
broken but Mr Brewer is Christ's brother
Isa and that's Dominican oil and crossed
the board that we don't want the watch
that has stopped if it's going and you
want to get it should continue going the
entire Shabbos although at most it's
through a bonan because it can be a tick
in the rice if it's going now and Taka
it's spelled even that should be treated
like a ticket
an automatic watch on Shabbos there is a
very big sat to be Michael a two or
three day yum tip is because here it is
itself the automatic watch seems to be
okay
and automatic watch more than any
observation except for Corporation a
solar battery that's recharged by going
into either sun or light is okay that's
a step removed from your your from your
regular activity changing a battery is a
real tickling it's like replacing the
shoelaces a new shoelace which is
adjusting the time as we said is is
thank you if someone pointed it out that
in some watches especially I was like
over the battery when you adjust the
time first as you're turning it for it
stops going so when you adjust the time
you have to make sure that first of all
digital of course you can't change
because that's changing the numbers but
even on a battery operated watch by
changing the time it stops and you have
to complete the correction it starts
again so that would be tantamount to
stopping and starting a watch I forgot
to remember that we've got to mention it
so thank you very much but the mice a
broken watch is muktsa it's a muktsa
is dysfunctional if it's attached it as
it is it's not muktsa if it ran out of
power is the same because when I say
it's functionless and the fact that
battery operated watch does not make it
a buses to the battery either Abba it's
a regular clean
of that tells time if a regular electric
clock you'll add a move let's move from
the climate to see the time or you want
to turn it off you so you know the
light's bothering whatever it is you let
it move it your own server for a watch
it's more possible to say that it's a
cliche and even more because it doesn't
involve any malacha being done there's
no he of the cover and then a button of
a watch upon Him various features blood
pressure heart rate that's the problem
because everything is changing as you
moving the wall clock is
treated like muktsum if it's not if it's
always moved then it can't be American
obviously but a wind-up toy according is
Muslim like most poison wind of Swing
especially if you wind it as you push it
because
even winding a watch that's broken even
changing the battery if need be if it's
going then you could have a guy do it
Mitzvah and perhaps even foreign
automatic Wind Watch when it when you
start kneading the kayak as we said a
plane watch it should not be worn out of
if there's no area of Summer Michael but
held not to wear plain watch and pass
this uh even women should not wear a
plane Watch Attack for nothing
watch for men
says not do it
and a coupling watches holidays