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The Tragedies of Tevet | Rabbi Yossi Goldin
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back to our regular schedule but uh
hopefully next week we'll definitely get
back to our regular our regular
curriculum um and as always as we always
open up that our learning should be
for should bring back and should be
a for and for all those who are
suffering and unfortunately impacted by
this
war and that should give guidance to our
leaders to make the right
decisions um so what I wanted to do this
week was actually once again take
advantage of the opportunity to pay
attention to what's going on in the
Jewish calendar and and to and to use a
discussion of as a jumping point to talk
a little bit about about the fast Day
that's coming up on Friday
uh um and what I want to start with is
just a quick quick very brief uh
background regarding um the special that
we say the special we say that we say
Obviously as many people are aware of
this which we which we've have which we
say which we which are generally ass
more associated with the time of el and
PR roash Shana are also said on each of
the fast days each of the public fast
days that we have throughout the year
including including T now the truth is
that according to many sources it's
there's a lot of debate regarding the
history and development of s in general
um but it seems that the the the custom
or the minhag to say s on public fast
days actually predates the Minh of
saying
again there's a there a bit bit of a
it's a bit it's a bit unclear I mean
even even if we go back to the to the in
the gar the idea of increasing our
increasing our increasing the things
that we do in for on public fast days is
something that was that is written about
extensively because obviously fast days
are meant to be a day where we're not
just uh simply not eating but using that
as an opportunity for for and for cha
and for improving ourselves and so um on
every public fast day especially the
ones that we now observe and and back in
the times of the gamar when they used to
even Institute fast days that were
localized to specific tragedies or
challenges that were going on there was
this idea this to say um on those fast
days as well what I wanted to do uh one
one interesting thing to note which many
those of us who have been going to are
aware of is that is the place is the
main difference between the that are
said on Fast days and the that are said
um before
is the placement of those that whereas
before
during are generally said either at
night or if not before daving the of of
fast days are actually incorporated into
the daving are said
afteron before we go into continue the
DAV and the truth is that historically
it used to be that these according to
many opinions used to be actually a part
of the K they were actually said during
the ofu which is why the name developed
because they were actually a part of the
nowadays we follow the of where we
separated and we say it after karat but
they used to be much more incorporated
into the which actually fits in with the
fact that again the the purpose of this
was to increase
our
to as we commemorate whatever the things
that occur these different fast days and
then use it as a jumping point to
improve our our chva and our in general
just a quick uh that was just a quick
kind of background to understanding that
we say on a fast day what I wanted to do
today was actually start with one of the
p uh one of the one of the I guess
essays or poems that are written for
the and use it as a jumping point to
kind of try to gain a better
understanding of is kind of like a
challenging all fast days are
challenging but we just finished kanuka
we're kind of like you know we've had a
eight days of kanuka and hopefully what
we eight days of inspiration then a week
later we have this fast day it seems a
little bit funny you know the fast days
of Shas and the fast days of of Tish
more there's a specific season for them
there's a specific connection between
them you could even argue that Tomia
which happens during we can it we can
kind of connect to T eser is kind of in
its own world aavia just kind seems to
come in the in the middle of nowhere and
I wanted to kind of gain a better
understanding of what exactly occurred
on and why and why we're fasting and
we'll begin with the special with one of
the special P team that we say during
the
of and as obviously we'll also cover one
of the one the one of the unique aspects
of the unique aspect of which is that is
the only fast day that we actually fast
on a Friday um when it's the only one
that actually can fall out on a Friday
according to our modern calendar but the
fact that we fast on a Friday usually we
don't fast on a Friday because we don't
want to go into Shabbat um
um hungry because it'll be it's a it's
an issue ofab Shabbat and yet
specifically as we'll see soon there is
there is an idea Hally that we fast even
when it falls out on Friday and
according to many post even if it were
were it to fall out on chabis we would
even fast on chabis similar to Yumer and
we'll have to understand why that is
hopefully we'll discuss that we'll
discuss that as well okay so we're going
to start with Source number one which is
the peute um the first of the of the of
the PE team that we say in the
the author of this perod is a little bit
in debate some people thought that it
was the author was someone by the name
of yose tuum from 11th century in France
um now it seems to be that the author is
considered to be again there's a lot of
different debates about these about
these peim yose Evan Aur who was in
Spain in the 10 the 10th Century but I
want to focus on the on the text of it
we'll read through it I brought you the
English translation as well because
specifically these PE team can be
particularly challenging they're very
poetic and sometimes a little bit harder
to understand the language um so I
brought you the English translation as
well I will describe the the distress
that is happening to
me there were three Mak there were three
strikings three things that happened
three blows as they translated here that
happened in this
month again very poetic he cut me down
he prevented me he he pulled me back
means he hit me
even now he is reference to he wears me
out again this is the PO this is the
poetic of the of of talking about the
pain that we're in specifically on this
day he crushed me or here it says
depressed me on the eighth day of this
month both from the right and from the
left because of these three events I
have established or we have established
a so already we're seeing there actually
not one thing that happened on but
actually three things that happened on
the days leading up to us that are all
connected to the uh the fast of what is
the first
one the king the Greek king forced me to
write down the the Torah into into
Greek as as he quotes in the P those who
plow Ed my back to plow they make the
FOH long so we see that there was this
idea of uh of of of the of the Torah
being translated into Greek that
happened on the eth of the month
continues the the
pan
sorry means to plow from the wordes it's
it's it's a it's a quote from a PUK and
it's just it's a description of of being
crushed using my back to plow of pushing
me to do something that I don't want to
have to do
yes
yes no I think it's just I think it's
just poetic language using it to
describe the pain of what occurred as a
result of that
yes excellent excellent question
excellent question we're going to we're
going to discuss that we're going to
discuss that that's an it's an excellent
question and we're to see that the that
that the way descri is even worse than
to describe now they describe it as
being as they compare it we're going to
see soon to to the to the to serving
theel and the question is what exactly
was so bad we'll get to that okay let's
continue I was angry on the
ninth with much shame is embarrassment
and and and
shame you removed from me my cloak my my
my jacket of splendor
and of
Glory he was destroyed literally means
he he he was killed or he died sorry the
person who is not imer the person who
had beautiful words who Ezra Ezra so
what we see is that the second thing
that occurred the second tragedy that
occurred according to this pan during
was the death of
Ezra Y what about that that happened on
the nth of the month what happened on
the 10th of the month y
on the 10th of the month the son of Bu
The Seer who's the son of Bu The Seer
the
na the SE was
commanded you should write this in your
book of what should he
write as a remembrance for the nation
that has been melted and
disgraced the words God commanded will
commanded to write the words of what
occurred what to write the words are
going be very important for us these are
the things that happened on this day
okay minan now what that's reference to
and he's hinting to here which he's
we're going to see soon in a second was
basically the the the the the um the
sorry not not the breaching of the walls
but the um the surrounding of the walls
the mats think my English keeps
constantly going The Siege excuse me
thank you The Siege the mats The Siege
around yush began on the 10th and that's
that's the that is the the tragedy that
most of us are familiar with or mostly
associate with the 10th with the 10th of
the month and that's what he's
describing happen that God commanded
jesel to commemorate that that happened
on the 10th of the
month the count of the monthly calendar
was awakened against
me I stretch out my ma my mouth as he
describes here as they translated with
durges with Welling by
crying the order of these tragedies will
burn in my heart okay so obviously very
poetic again a little harder to
understand his language unless you're
paying attention to the words you kind
of understand some of the context but
what we see here is that the pon is
describing three tragedies that occurred
around us the eth of the month the Torah
was translated into Greek or the theim
were forced to translate the Torah into
Greek the nth of the month is the death
of Ezra and the 10th is The Siege Around
The Siege around yush began and in fact
where do this where do we see this these
three mentioned altogether or at least
two of them mentioned it starts with m m
in Source in Source number two m is an
ancient text that generally would would
listed all the different days of of
special Kim and special commemorations
that happened to um to am Isel um
throughout the ages reason why there
would be SE days of Celebration and also
sometimes would mention certain days of
tragedy so this is one of the earliest
sources for these three ideas and what
does say it
says in the eth of the Torah was written
into Greek in the king's in the days of
king
T and that was basically the initiator
of three days of darkness That Came Upon
into the world
the
nth we don't we don't know what it is
again
here doesn't mention something happened
on the nth the rabbis aren't going to uh
they don't tell us although we know both
from our pan and also from other sources
the other and other mentioned that it
was specifically the death of
Ezra on the 10th of the
month and on the 10th of the month is
when the king of B came to the decision
to to begin the process of destroying of
destroying um and the and the bet mdash
so what I'd like to do now is is is is
as we see we have these three different
events is to try to go through each of
them and try to understand or first of
all learn more about each of them and
then perhaps hopefully we'll try to come
up with some kind of an understanding as
to why these all were were tragic events
and is there any connection between all
three of these or are they just simply
three things that happen to happen to
occur uh around around the same time the
first I want to start with is
obviously no no what I meant was the
dates the dates you know thank you no
you're 100% correct obviously they
happened at different years and
different times I meant they both is
that they all just happen to be n eth
n9th and 10th of t or might there
actually be some kind of theme that
connects the three of them together um
that we maybe we should be thinking
about on so we'll start with um the
first or the main one the earliest one
mean the one that happened the earliest
and also the one that is perhaps most
associated with the which is The Siege
around so let's start with Source number
three we're going moving
toim towards the end of we have the
siege then eventually the breaching of
and then the destruction of the mdash
well just just to understand exactly
what happened here Source number
three the ninth year of his
kingship referring to the king of the
king of
B in the 10th month which is the month
of on the 10th of the
month the king of came he and all of his
army and he encamped around
it and they built and they built towers
and they built ditches all around
clearly as a symbol of Siege around
J and they came upon the city in siege
for how many years for three years sorry
excuse me for two
years until the 11th year of king of
King Sido um so actually I think if I'm
not mistaken it was three it was two
years but and then and they came around
the city that The Siege lasted for two
years and
then the ninth of the
month and they were there was no by by
the time it came after those two years
the the city was so weak there was no
food left and as a result they couldn't
do anything the people within the city
had no way of stopping anything and what
happens eventually they're able to break
through the
walls eventually following this
multi-year Siege they were able to break
into and what fast day do we have that
commemorates the breaking of the siede
the the the the the break the breaching
of the walls that's the fast of
of now interestingly enough we're not
going to get into the details here but
if you paid attention here you might
notice that that actually happened not
on the 10th of Tas but it happened on
the ninth of Tas so why is it that we
fast on the 17th of Tas as opposed to
sorry the ninth of Tas so that actually
from what I understand from the research
that I
did they used to fast on the ninth of
tamas between the first and second bet
mikdash but then once the second beash
was destroyed and the breaching of the
walls then happened on the 17th of tamuz
they moved the fast the 17th of Tas and
there because they were commemorating
the breaching of of what happened in the
second bash as opposed to the first bash
again don't get into all the details
here but what we have here is the
following we have that on the the 10th
of Tate we have the beginning of the
siege of yush and that is why we fast on
and the truth is that in order to really
understand this this fast day is really
the first of four public fast days that
were that were that were all part of a
Continuum leading to the destruction of
mikdash and also the fall of Jewish
sovereignty around Jer because we have
is when The Siege began a number of
years later we have on the seven on the
17th of thas or the 10th of Tas nth of
thas excuse me we have the destruction
the breach of the walls which is why we
fasted three weeks later we have or a
few weeks later we have which is
commemorating the destruction of the BAM
mikdash and then soon after that we have
or commor at on the the month soon after
that is we have we have Galia why do we
fast on Galia Galia commemorates the the
death of of gdal who was gdal Galia was
actually after the betas was destroyed
the King still allowed the Jewish people
to have a certain amount of sovereignty
but what happened was there was
infighting between between them Galia
had been appointed to oversee the small
Jews that stayed in Yus and to they were
again they weren't F they were not
sovereign they were they were they had
to they had to pay homage to the king
but they were allowed to exist and exist
Within yusan there was infighting
regarding how to relate to the king
people didn't approve of what Galia was
doing and what happened he was murdered
he was assassinated and that led to the
eventual total leaving of the entire of
of the rest of the Jewish Community
within y leading to the to the the
eventually dissolvement of of all of of
the Jewish community in Yan so what
actually is it continue it didn't all
happen in the same year it happened
after a couple of years each at
different times but then we have these
four events that are all on a continuum
all connected to each other and those
actually correspond to four out of the
five public fast dayss that we have the
fifth public fast days is tonic Esther
again that's really that's really its
own little its own its own category
because it's it's a unique fast day has
unique characteristics to it and it's
and it's all obviously connected to to
the perm story but it's important to
know that doesn't exist in a vacuum is
really step one to the rest of the fast
days that we have and it's all part of
this Continuum leading to the
destruction of the BET mikdash and the
eventually dissolution of of of of the
Jewish
Community within within
yusa but the question that I want to try
to understand better I think is perhaps
the question that might that might that
might be coming to you which is if we're
already commemorating the breaching of
the walls and we're already
commemorating T we have two fast days to
Comm when they broke through the walls
and we have another fast day to
commemorate the destruction of B mikdash
why do we need a fast day to commemorate
the beginning of the siege because if
you think about it the siege not nothing
actually happened no one attacked the
Jews meaning there was no physical
destruction at that time
sorry okay so so so but the question
really needs to be like if we're already
the breaching of the walls is when they
broke
in is when the was destroyed why do we
need another fast day to commemorate The
Siege it see the question really is like
why do we have so many different fast
days why wouldn't it be enough to okay
The Siege was eventually what eventually
happened we got so weak we couldn't we
couldn't we couldn't defend ourselves
and therefore they were able to break
through the walls therefore they were
able to destroy to destroy the BET mdash
and you could argue whe about Galia
whether that's necessary that's that's a
totally different piece the question is
why do we really so that's question
number one is to try to understand why
exactly do we need a fast day
commemorating The Siege when if you
think about it all all that happened was
the enemy surrounded jerim and they
began threatening us obviously that's
not a good thing but does it does it
require its own its own fast day okay so
that's what I want to just put put to
the put uh put to the back of our minds
and and and then move on I just realized
my my things are out of order so give me
one second here we
go ah so the tum happened happened later
meaning the tum happened meaning they
didn't happen there as you pointed out
they didn't happen in the same time so
yeah yeah yeah so so
yes ah okay so good so the question is
whether whether some meaning the
question is whether there really was
something that happened on that we need
to commemorate that by itself and that's
what we have to try to understand yes
very good okay but let's let's go on for
now and let's discuss the other two
things that happened on T8 and hopefully
we'll try to we'll try to bring this try
to bring this together Source number
four this is a this is a section from
we've
discussed before it's a non-conical part
of the of the uh uh it's one of the
smaller that that are brought in kazal
but it's not officially part of the of
the Canon of the of the Talman and it
basically discusses different historical
events that have happened as well as
other so according describes this event
of the Translating of the of the
Torah there was there was an event where
five we're g to see that there's two
different it's unclear whether it's two
different versions or two different
stories but it seems to be two different
stories there were five five Elders
that that they translated for tal the m
translated it into Greek
[Applause]
and this day was as bad for as the day
of okay again as I mentioned before
why because the Torah wasn't able to be
properly translated as it should have
okay so that's just just something we
have to understand what exactly does
that mean why would this be such a big
deal and certainly why would it be as
bad as as as
what does it mean that the Torah
couldn't be couldn't be translated we
translate the Torah all the time as you
point out right now that not only is
translation common it's led to the
prance of of Li Torah it's led to many
many more people connecting to the Torah
and learning Torah so what exactly is
the tragedy here and why would it be as
bad as as let's keep going on continues
in another version it seems to be a
second part of the
story he he he brought 72 Elders the
and he gathered them and placed them in
72 different
homes he didn't tell them what he was
doing so they couldn't prepare they
couldn't arrange between themselves they
didn't they couldn't prepare what was
going to
happen each of them went
in I want you to translate for me the
Tor of
mem made a special n and gave them ADV
created a n and each of them there were
certain parts of the Torah that needed
to be translated or needed to be
adjusted in order to be translated into
that or in order to not lead to certain
misunderstandings and Hashem created a a
that each of the 72 on their own had the
intuition to write and translate it the
right way and therefore when T came
looked it over he saw there was
consistency in their in their
translation okay so that itself was
actually
a ace a miracle but we we also see at
the same time that there was clearly
something negative about what happened
here and that's question number two
question number two is what exactly was
so bad and is it at all connected to
what we've we've been discussing until
now and then question number three which
is the death of Ezra okay so the death
of Ezra according to kazal as we saw
happened on on on on on the 10th of on
the on the 10th of Tate and the question
is again it what ninth excuse me correct
on the ninth of T thank you and the
question is again what exactly is is
this connected who who was Ezra and why
was that such a tragedy um that that
it's that it's somehow part of what we
commemorate on on so those are the
questions I'd like I'd like to answer
but first I want to
just highlight one other unique aspect
of that we saw which is the aspect of of
how when when we commemorate our despite
it falling out on Friday and potentially
even on chabis and that starts with
Source number five Source number five
turns toes and sa fores around the time
it's unclear exactly if it's right on
the day or soon after this Siege
happened and God turns was not in was in
B at the time he was not uh at the time
around the around the
destruction appeared to me the ninth
month uh of the 10th sorry the ninth of
the 10th uh sorry the nth year the 10th
month and the 10th of that month thank
you then
sh sh you should write down the
occurrence or the name meaning this of
this
day this exact
day the king of B has now laid Siege to
on this day and you see I highlighted or
I underlined for you the
words there's something very weird about
this P what exactly is telling him and
repeating the
phrase on this day it happened well you
just told me when it happened you me
tell me it happened on the on the 10th
the 10th day of the 10th month so why do
you repeat that you should write down
and make sure to write
down so learned from this and the
earliest source is the is seems to be
the that by saying and stressing
it this is when it happened that means
that is from there we learn that
whenever this fast Day falls out we have
to fast that day that year because
there's a stress to commemorating it on
that day look at source number six says
the is quoting
the it's different than all the other
fast
days if were it to happen now this now
in our calendar it cannot happen but
were it to happen that a would fall out
on the 10th of the month we would not be
able to push it off
why because the phrase that's used
is the phrase is also used in reference
to Yum and therefore has a similarity to
yur just like we fast on yur whenever it
falls out right falls out on chabis WE
fast on on chabis so
too is unique that we're going to fast
no matter when when it falls
out and then he says I don't understand
where he got this from okay
however and he also wrote that sometimes
will fall out on
Friday and we would fast that
day but other will never fall out on a
Friday to the way that our calendar our
calendar works out so B quotesam first
he makes a comment like I don't know
where he got this from but the truth is
that later on when he quotes it in the
he actually pasin like the which is that
we we would fast were it to follow on
chabas we would fast on shabis and we're
and now that when if it falls out on
Friday we fast on Friday as we're going
to have unusually this year so the
question again is we know the source the
source
is it comes from the from this P but the
question becomes why why would again now
we're it seems to be that not only is
herbate an important day to commemorate
but it's so important that we have to
commemorate on that day no matter when
it falls out that's what I'd like to try
to understand yes
good excellent yes yeah
correct no no so we're going to see soon
that and that's exactly where I'd like
to start with that the
phrase highlights something big
happening it could be good and it could
be bad the words this is something that
I heard and I I I read and I saw
actually um on in the um in a video by
by alive beta by David Foreman has has a
lot of Wonder from theal and all of
these things and they point out that
that think the key to understanding this
is is the words that if we look where
else in Jewish history the words are
what they indicate is a dramatic shift
is about to happen or is beginning to
happen in Jewish history and that and
that but we have to understand exactly
what that is here but that's exactly the
the way that I'd like to go yes I think
you get a question or
comment Translating that
isal okay there go correct correct we
have to understand what exactly that
means but yes
yes prevent so you are correct you are
correct that Rashi you are correct that
that we're GNA get to that right now but
key to I think really beginning to
understand what's happening and the the
significance of is to understand this
phrase so what you're quoting is there's
a famous Rashi well where let's start
with this where else is are is the
phrase besides Yumer Yumer is not not
not an event but is reference to a
specific day where else is the phrase
sorry Brit excellent so one place is
when a is when a is commanded to do Brit
Mila and we mentioned
sorry well when they left Egypt they
left where else anyone know where else
whenu dies correct there's one more
there's one more and that is when when
when the when the when Noah was into the
T he also goes the Torah says he goes
into okay so you have these four events
and all of them now Rashi points out
there one of the one of the one of the
interpretations of Rashi points out that
the
phrase is coming to show that it was
done in broad daylight because there
were some people who said to themselves
I'm going to challenge this by Noah
there were some who said if he starts to
go into the T I'm going to stop him from
doing it and there were some people who
said when mosha if mosha starts to go up
to the mountain to to die we're going to
prevent him from going or the Egyptians
were said we're going to stop them from
leaving Egypt or I think there were some
people who said that if aam starts to do
bis we're not going to let him to do it
because it's a barbaric thing to do and
therefore it was done to show that no
one was able to stop them that's one
interpretation of but perhaps what we
can suggest and again this is based off
of the idea that I heard from by David
Foreman which that but is also meant to
highlight that something dramatic is
happening in each of these events the is
showing a dramatic shift that is going
to happen in the world for example let's
start with Noah Noah was the earliest
one Noah is about to go into the Tava
the flood is about to occur and
something is about to fundamentally
change within the world the world is
going to be destroyed and be rebuilt
there are many different there are many
different things that are now going to
be allowed meaning the world as we know
it is going to shift one basic just one
for one one example would be that before
Noah we were not allowed to eat animals
after Noah we allowed to eat animals and
many many believe that that that had to
that that's not just by chance but it
has to do with a fundamental shift in
the way the world was that the world had
a certain reality before Noah and that
things shifted after the after the Mable
and once Noah exit the Tava he exited to
a new reality that was not that was is
different from what was before he
entered the Tava a aam doing Brit Mila
is the beginning of what we would call
Kat of a Jew kit we now from then on all
children have a again without getting
into uh question political political
correctness not but we do believe that
there is a Kad that Jews have through
Brit mil that has achieved what we call
K is K is a new reality that did not
exist in the world and only exists from
the time that ainu and his children and
his and his and his uh and his
descendants um there are certain and his
descendants do complete the Brit Mila
there are certain things that only
people of Brit can do because they're
indicative of a higher level of we would
call K is obviously it's it's a
fundamental shift in in in our reality
the creation of a of a of the Jewish of
the Jewish people um moshe's death was a
fundamental shift in the people Moses
the transition from Moshe to to to
Yoshua the transition from the midbar to
entering Earth so these were all
fundamental shifts and therefore perhaps
what we can suggest is the phrase is not
just about because it says on that day
but seems to be indicating to us the
usage of that phrase connected to the
destruction or to The Siege see seems to
imply that something fundamental
happened on the 10th of tavit and that
is why we're going to we're going to
observe it no matter when it whenever
whenever it falls out that is why it has
its own fast day even though we're also
going to fast on the 17th of tamuz and
we're also going to fast on on shab what
is unique about there was something that
was basic that shifted for and the
question is what that what that could be
so I think the best way to understand it
is we can start with Source number seven
Source number seven Yash is is a safeer
written by IIT um and he and he
basically asked this question he said
what exactly is so unique about that not
only we fast it fast on that day but we
but it has it has its own unique that
are different from all other fast
days we're in Source number
seven have even been worse than the
actual destruction of the
would never we would never
fast according to the establishment of
earlier
sources and earlier calendars when it
could have fallen out on
chab so in some way is stronger than or
more tragic
than it must be that this was a great
tragedy
and it must be what was it says it was
the beginning there was a dramatic shift
that happened on because it was the
beginning of the end as he keeps going
and he keeps
going once the once the the the the the
uh the band was released and opened up
above to attack the city
they already after that was already just
you know Child's Play meaning once the
ability to to the God gave the the
kinget the ability to attack everything
else was going to be easier what exactly
does he mean let's we have in order to
really understand we have to put
ourselves kind of in the in the moment
okay the BET mikash was around for how
many years before it was destroy the
first bet mikdash 400 410 420 okay so we
we're talking about 400 years thousands
of not thousands many many generation
thousands of Jews but many many
generations where the reality was the
betam mikdash now things weren't perfect
during the we weren't we weren't perfect
we sinned there were things that were
happening as a nation but it was
basically the Glory Days for am Israel
you schlomo had built this gorgeous
edifice we were under schlomo certainly
obviously that started to change uh as
the generations as the generations
continued but certainly under schlomo he
had established the Jew sovereignty and
the Jewish Kingdom and this gorgeous bet
mikdash and on some level am Israel
despite all their failings they felt
almost Invincible they and it and and
they had many n who were warning them
this is if you keep doing this it's
going to be bad they had many NV that
were coming and saying if you don't if
you don't mend your ways if you don't do
chuva is gonna punish you but you know
what we weren't listening we were almost
we were almost just we had we almost had
created a facade a certain sense of
invincibility this sense that okay might
get but he would never let them destroy
the mikash he would never let them
destroy this is this is this is the
center of the world and so am Isel over
the course of those 400 and plus some OD
years had created this sense of
invincibility and this facade that no
matter what we do no matter what happens
nothing will be destroyed what was the
moment when they realized when that when
that facade was shattered that was The
Siege around Yus The Siege around yush
shattered that facade shattered that
sense of invis invincibility and made
them realize wait a second there's
somebody who's coming here and they're
going to and and and and it's working
they're surrounding us they've created
this Siege and there's a reality here
that's starting to shift and so although
the walls had not yet been breached and
although the betam mdash had not yet
been destroyed what had been shattered
was their was their sense was their
sense of comfort their sense of
invincibility their sense of strength
and that was the dramatic shift that
occurred on on the 10th of Tate on the
10th on the 10th of Tate when they saw
the Babylonian Army coming around them
and doing something that they thought
would never happen boom all of a sudden
everything their whole worldview began
to Shad something that they thought
would never happen that had been warned
about people said this is going to
happen and the vi would get up and say
this is GNA happen and you know what
everyone said yeah it's not going to
happen he'll never do it and so the
sense of what we would call in sense of
invincibility or what became impossible
all of a sudden became possible the
Untouchable became touchable things that
we thought couldn't happen and that
perhaps is what occurred on a and why we
fast no matter one we always fast on
that day why we have a fast day for that
day because that was when the whole
reality that we had created for
ourselves that Amy Israel had created
for themselves was shattered and they
were no longer the same from there
everything cascaded into infighting
amongst the G nation how do we fight
again what should we do should we
negotiate with them should we try to all
everything then began to fall apart
beginning with the moment of
invincibility that was shattered on on
the tenth of
Tate excellent we're GNA get to that yes
correct correct correct and I think
that's an I think that's an important
part of what we're going to what we're
going to see but we'll we'll talk about
that in one minute now if we understand
that then I think we can now try to
connect how this might connect to the
other things that we talked about the
other things that occurred in this on TV
we talk about the idea of of the sense
of something which became Beyond
impossible to happen what we would call
Untouchable all of a sudden became
possible the sense of Y will never be
destroyed would never destroy would
never hurt us would never allow that to
happen all of a sudden on on the 10th of
T all of a sudden we that that begin to
happen how is that connected at all to
to um to to the other two events that
happened that happened so perhaps if we
think about what what what does it mean
when we talk about the Torah being
translated into Greek okay why is it
such a tragedy that the Torah is
translated into GRE we have we have many
translations of the Torah nowadays we
have to understand what happened here
when the Torah was what what is the
Torah the Torah fundamentally is dvar
Hashem and is dvar Hashem it's not just
it's just it's not just another text
it's not another discipline that you
could take that a science book that you
take that book and you translate into
whatever language you want because it's
all about understanding the content the
Torah and especially in its written for
Hebrew form is so much deeper than that
just as an example this isn't the only
example but anyone who's ever who's ever
seen the uh you know the amazing The
Amazing presentation that is Torah has
on the Torah codes and all the different
things that are hidden in the depth of
the Torah we know that the Torah has
tremendous depth that is independent of
the actual translation of the words and
so when when when when when the king
talai demanded that the only other way
to say it excuse me the only other way
to say is the Torah is beyond this world
it's something that's beyond and what
what talai demanded that our rabbis do
when they translated into Greek was they
took something that was really Beyond
this world another way to say this
Untouchable and they made it into
something much more finite it was
diluted in such a great way although
maybe as many of you are pointing out
nowadays we have translations too but
even though we have translations too
we're well aware when we're reading the
translations we're well aware that we're
reading a translation and that we're
only doing that in order to understand
the context or the content but that we
all are familiar or all know that the
that there's no there's no replacement
for the Hebrew text because of the depth
and the tremendous and the tremendous
depth that that's in that Torah and
therefore for us it's just simply an an
issue of access somebody who doesn't
necessarily not doesn't doesn't
necessarily know Hebrew as well and
wants to have greater access but we all
know and ask any any of your rabbis and
any any Rabbi or any of us who have
really put thought into this that the
Torah is much deeper when accessed in
its initial Hebrew and so what happened
what what what Tami wanted to do was he
wanted to take the Torah which was
Untouchable Beyond any discipline and
turn it into any other discipline and
what what what what was happening here
and that's why perhaps it was it was a
tragedy that is compared to uh compared
toel because what it was doing was
cheapening the Torah and turning it into
just a a fake version of itself a fake
version of what Torah really is
translating it into Greek is turning it
into a fake version of itself and that
is what Isel is a fake version of God
it's turning it's turn it's taking the
essence of what God is which is beyond
this world and turning it into something
that is a part of this world it's
another discipline it's just or or sorry
ago was basically turning it into a
physical a physical being and that's the
same thing that translating the Torah
into Greek was trying to accomplish was
to take Torah which is beyond this world
which is greater Beyond and turning it
into just one another discipline like
like everything else just like the the
the breach of sorry the siege of yush
was taking a city that we believed was
was Untouchable was beyond this world
and now when we realized it's just any
other city like the like the rest of the
world I just want to take one other
comment and then I'm happy to take any
questions and now let's connect that to
Ezra s who's Ezra s so according to
kazal according to many sources Ezra
Sofer was the last of the Nim was the
last of the Nim and that with the death
of Ezra s the time of n ended once again
our connection to the Divine or our
connection to something Beyond this
world was shattered our connection to
something greater our
from then on from the death of Ezra now
our reality and our connection with and
with Judaism was going to shift
dramatically without Nim our reality is
different we all we live we live in a
time now without n our reality to the
Torah our reality to God our reality to
our Judaism is dramatically change
without nvua so the theme is again
something which be which was our
relationship with nvua with God which
was almost Beyond this world has now all
of a sudden with the death of Ezra
become become something more mundane
hard to connect to something which was
Untouchable all of a sudden now becomes
something normal and so perhaps we can
suggest that what connects these three
things the the the the siege of the
walls the translation of the Torah the
death of Ezra SAR is that something
which had been beyond beyond this world
I'm using the phrase Untouchable had
become something Beyond this world was
now made much more touchable was made
much more um physical and and less and
less and less Beyond this world and
perhaps that's that's the that's the
connection between between between these
these three events yes did you want to
make a comment
or
yes so that again there's a lot of
debate amongst about exactly what that
was it was it two different versions of
the same story and just two different
understands of the same story was it two
different stories it's a very good
question I didn't I didn't I didn't get
into that and I
don't that's a good question as well
that's a good question as well I'm under
the assumption that we're talking about
these as both being the same but I don't
but it's it's a very you could you could
make that argument they were talking
about two different events and the go
only one and this was one I didn't get
into those details because many seem to
just assume that it was it was it was a
similar event uh that happened either
twice or two different descriptions of
the same event it's it's it's come Kings
also but I think the Assumption seems to
be that it's not but it's a but it's a
good point yes we could you could
separate those two um I just didn't go
that that that that route in terms of in
terms of this yes pleas one sh something
had a sh on Shabbat on this subject and
the
mag claimed something different you
notice in your Source number two it
says on
the right we don't know what happened
right he claimed that throughout the AG
this was a great secret of and what
actually did happen in was that a Jew
called pilas decided that he was going
to make a distinction between Christians
and Jews were like all the same the
first Jew the first Christians were all
Jews and the Rabon were concerned with
the fact that this was all people
wouldn't be to tell the difference
between one and the other and he said I
volunteer great T I volunteer and who
was he he he eventually became Peter as
insane Peter interesting and he created
what they call the mother church and he
did it specifically in order to save
Jews from becoming interesting
interesting I didn't I hadn't heard that
I had I know that there isn't the whole
discussion Regarding why they say l
um if you look at other sources
the quotes the and then writes and then
writes but it was the the death of Ezra
so there are a number of sources that
seem to indicate we're talking about the
death of Ezra um but that's that's
interesting I not I not heard that
before very
interesting yeah well Ezra is thought oh
oh that who wrot that who that that P
Peter oh that could be that could be
that could be okay that now I I just
just just just to add a couple of more
points I think what this also is
interesting there's one other inter
aspect to which we haven't mentioned um
but first of all I think I think we've
answered most of our questions we
answered the connection between all
three we've answered why it is
specifically on the 10th that no matter
when it falls out we fast that day we've
answered why we needed our own fast day
because of the this dramatic shift in
our perspective um the shattering of our
illusion that that occurred
interestingly enough one other aspect of
it is that it is it is the day that has
been designated by the chief Rabin it to
be called the
Yad y
means that on this day the there is a
special M that is said and that is the
day when we commemorate and say kades
for all those who who perished in the
Holocaust and whose date of death are
unknown that day of there are many who
even claim that this should be the this
that is the proper day to have a to to
commemorate the Shah more than y that's
a that's a totally separate debate which
I won't get into but interestingly
enough a has been designated as a day
where we commemorate the death of those
people who have who perished
um during the Holocaust and we don't
know when they died and this is the day
when we to say to say to say Kadesh and
to say m I brought for you we're not
going to say see it inside but I brought
for you in Source number 10 the special
Mish that we that we say on this it's a
special excuse me that we say on the Yad
it's basically a special um k for those
who perished in the Holocaust but
specifically for those who died and we
don't have their we don't have the day
we're not going to go through it right
now we don't have the day of their death
we're not going to go through it right
right now but the fact that kazal chose
this day and I mean the fact that Chief
rabit it chose this day could very well
be I wonder if it's connected to again a
recognition that what happened on the
was the beginning of all the tragedy
that is that's going to happen among
that is the beginning of the destruction
of the first bet mikash after the
destruction of the first bet mdash the
realities were the reality was very very
different the second B mdash was nowhere
near the same level as the first bet
mdash in terms of its beauty and in
terms of what it had in it the Ares
wasn't in the second bash there were
many things that were missing in the
second B
it was clear from the destruction the
first the that after the destruction of
the first mdash things were never going
to be the same until
until comes and so perhaps the idea was
that was the beginning of this illusion
being shattered that led to a Cascade of
events both in those Generations but
also became a symbol of a shattering of
an illusion that then continued for
generations and generations and that
brings us to to today as a number of you
pointed on someone pointed out you you
pointed out earlier I think that this
idea uh of a facade of of shattered
Illusions is something that we can very
much relate to um this year or this last
year and a half in particular when we
think about again without getting into
any political discussions or anything of
that sort what's clear was that there
was a certain facade and a certain
illusion that we had we in this country
had regarding the dangers or lack of
dangers that were lurking uh around us
and and and within and within our
country and and and on one day th those
Illusions were totally were totally
shattered and we could understand get a
taste of what it might have been for
them for the for the for the Jewish
community in yusal to see the
Babylonians surrounding them thinking
that they were Invincible all of a
sudden seeing this Army surround them
and prepare and prepare and having that
sense of Illusion be totally shattered
is something that I think we can connect
to a little bit a little bit on this day
yes Tish and tonight be no Tish so
everys down us
are you ready or not
absolutely so that's that's that's a
great that's a great uh segue into into
the last source that I want to do with
you which is Source number eight Source
number eight this is a well-known
mishura where the Mish writes what the
main purpose of every fast day really is
the main purpose of every fast day is
not that not to not eat food it's not
just to think about some of the things
that we've been talking about but it's a
day of and chuva look at this underlined
part in s vers number
eight all these
days we fast because of the of the that
occurred in order to arouse our
heart to think about and to embark on
the path towards
chuva
sorry it should be reminder of our of
the things that we've done wrong which
may have caused this
what happened back then what's happening
today so that what happened to them is
happening to us kind of like we talked
about that was talk about the good
things that happened so unfortunately
we're seeing similar things happening to
us that happened to them all because of
our
actions that way if we remember this we
commemorate it
hopefully we will return to to do ch and
to
improve as the Torah says that they
should confess their sins and the sins
of their
forefathers every person should pay
attention on these
days and to examine your Deeds your
actions we should doar is not the
fasting but rather is the chuva and this
the Mish is referring specifically to
these public fasting days which begin
with at least in the cycle of what we're
describing this this Friday um so I hope
that by learning about this really
starting with that that text the the P
the the that we saw uh Source number one
that we're going to say on Friday
hopefully that will a add more meaning
to the that we're going to say that
period that we're going to say on Friday
in the but hopefully also give us some
food for thought to think about this
coming Friday as we fast and think about
what happened what might have caused
what happened the lessons from what that
can take and how we can take those
lessons and apply those lessons to our
days as well have a great week everybody