The Truth About Energy, Healing & Inner Peace | Moshe Weisz

Plant medicine is not drugs. That's number one. I'm like, look, this is not this not marriage counseling. I'm not a marriage counselor. This not what's going to you're not going to be sitting here for 10 years. This is heavy hit to the point. Finding your rhythm, finding your beat. We each have a beat. Everybody has a beat. We we have a vibration. Um the struggle in the struggle is in gula is that we are beating to somebody else's beat. When I walk into to sh and somebody dabbled and I got one of the >> Who are you? You're not supposed to be reading. You're supposed to put on your film. He's very musical. >> Put on your film. Put on your favorite song. Say that's it for you. >> There was no outlet. The only outlet was food. >> Yeah. >> You know, so there was food. There was a lot of food. >> Yeah. >> So that's how I got to know my my journey in nutrition. When I was 17, I was 300 lb. >> Can someone think for a second that you can get off the medication by healing with plant medicine? Okay, today uh we have a unique guest, the courageous and the soulful Mosha Weiss. >> Um Mosha doesn't fit into a box. >> Uh and honestly, I don't think he wants to fit into a box. Moshe has uh knowledge in breath work um and in plant medicine and in nutrition in music and he's also deeply spiritually connected to kabadat consciousness. He explores healing through connection and through experience. Welcome to the struggle. >> Wow. >> This is a struggle. >> This is the struggle. I see the struggle. >> The struggle is real. >> Okay. The struggle is real. Wow. Mosha was actually now you said it, Mosha was actually put into the box. >> Okay. >> Only to be taken out from the box and and you know just um struggle, >> right? >> You know, before we're going to get into the deep stuff, um I want to know uh a little bit of your background. Where did you grow up? >> I grew up uh in Williamsburg. >> Williamsburg. >> Uh Williamsburg. I went to Satar. Okay. Uh, Troopa Avenue. >> Yeah. >> Um, you know, it's um, >> till what age were you in South? >> I went to I started off in Kash. >> Yeah. In Williamsburg. >> Williamsburg. >> Yeah. >> Um, your uncle Peter Olam. >> Yeah, I remember. >> He was a sweetheart and really was like a mama to to the kids and you know >> um that was that and then from there I went to the age of Kahai about 8 years old I went to Smare. Mhm. >> Um they kind of told me that it's time to go. >> Ser. >> No, Crler. >> Oh, Crler. At one point. >> At one point. Um so I went to Satner and um yeah, I mean I I I got to say like I'm only now realizing what what hit me, you know. >> At what age uh did you uh Yeshiva, you also went to Satma? >> So at I went I made it till age of 13. Mhm. >> Um I was there a half a year and then from there I went to my >> Mhm. >> Um I was in my for about a year you know kind of struggled uh in the system. Um and then after that it was uh it was lights out for me. I mean from there my journey started um >> yeah the journey started. I dove deep into my journey. >> So when did you realize that you're a mvakage that that that these things are not working for you when you're looking for something more for something deeper? Um I I you know it's it's I I do I work with you know with with inner child stuff and um healing and all that. Yeah. >> And when I ask somebody how old were you? They remember like I remember when I was 2 years old and sometimes I'm skeptical but but it's it's possible especially with the new generation they're more aware and there's less trauma. So they're there's less of that disconnect and there's more of that they can remember. At the age of nine I felt um a deep there was a deep sadness. there was a deep uh space of that I don't belong here. >> Um this is not this is not it. >> Um I remember uh I remember I always felt like there is there's somewhere else there's somewhere else there's somewhere else that that is happening. I remember it was matzah matzipes who we came home from blighten the reb with the faklin and I was sitting at the edge of my bed and my father passed by it was he never it wasn't really you know that wasn't really the language he's like why are you sitting there all you know was and it was interesting that he that he picked up on it because it wasn't it wasn't we didn't know what sadness is or depression wasn't it didn't exist back then especially in that >> in that uh circle >> it was boots on the ground there was no time for nothing move on like you know it's grunt time >> so at that age I felt I felt that I don't belong uh you know in school and kaider the jokes weren't funny to me the uh >> and even the the the yiddeshkite is it was not presented to you direct to your heart >> let's go to the yishkite the yishkite was a very very yeah that tore me tore me apart because um I had a deep innocence a deep uh timas in in the way I looked at things the way I I saw things >> and in sar you were not gonna find appreciation to that. It's like when you see when the it's a famous joke we laugh about it in between in the circle when somebody's doing was doing and and he was really into it as we're passing by you know right >> like that was the so to me that was >> it was a big shock to the system like am I to say this is a joke >> funny yeah >> and then also how money was the main thing money was a big big deal you know is special but captain you know, you know, that >> that messed with my whole system like deeply. It just wounded me in a way where I became um I became very um angry, you know, angry, receptive. Did >> you ever become rebellious? >> Yes. Very rebellious. Yeah. Very very uh very um aggressive. Uh there was no outlet. The only outlet was food. >> Yeah. >> You know, so there was food. There was a lot of food. >> Yeah. So that's how I got to know my my journey in nutrition. When I was 17, I was 300 pounds, you know, that was my that was my thing. >> A lot of passion, a lot of love that I had to fill the void for that I didn't find or receive. >> Um and then I um yeah, that's what I went to Israel and I dropped it in one year. I lost like over 100 pounds and I kept it off since I got into nutrition. I really, you know, went into, you know, dug into it to what it means, what and back then it wasn't, there was no spell, there was no sour, there was none of that. But I made it my almost like my life mission that I'm going to help, you know, um, heavy people. It's a struggle because I noticed that um it's not and as I got in deeper to it I was like it's not that they eat more than the average person because I found myself after that I'm eating the same that I would eat but it's the type of food and the reason you're eating for >> right there's a stress >> there's a stress and there's also it can be one one ingredient that you don't agree with. Um I had for for many years I was uh went through I started my when I was 12 migraines for about for years like one long it was it was intense. Um also it was all from food. Um you know the the the food that we eat the processed food and the sugars and all that stuff that definitely u that was the cause and once I started eliminating that >> you saw a tremendous change. >> Yes. I mean >> now in you found no when did you find kabat? Um so I went to the I went to a small yeshiva there was you know shashiva he was was it's important because um um his name was Mosha >> the same name his name is Mosha Kachinsky >> um he had a small place there the mixed all that about 20 30 of us um and it was the first time I experienced um experienced compassion you know like uh even when we went out to smoke a cigarette and and he was like, "Okay, it's time to come back." And if you would put it out, he's like, "Finish it." You know, it's like it was like, "Wow, he's it's it's you know, it was the little thing. It was like you're a human being. You're somebody." Um, >> it was just special, you know, and then he wasn't well and we said goodbye. So, it was it was a sad story that was that didn't last long, but I was there for about a year and a half. I did a year, year and a half. I did some healing there. Um and then there is um yeah we'll see if we circle back to how deep we want to get into the drama about what if it's important if it's Indian >> if it's important to uh to talk about it otherwise we'll keep it uh >> yeah now >> yeah so how did you get to kabad >> um so Kabad is I I was introduced to my wife >> um and from there I um I got in you know we got married to remember the First time I went on my first date. I came to pick her up as she lived in Crown Heads >> and I remember just driving there and I was in an Ola Matoyo at that time completely. But I just remember rolling down the windows and just breathing and >> like there's something here. There's something here. Something something different here. There is there's you know and um and I never left. And I remember coming back to to the is like I'm going out with this girl and they're like you're crazy. These guys are Msiah. like as as far removed as we were from reality. But we had an issue with and that >> you know and I I parked myself there. I never left. >> Wow. >> You know, and >> it was a different energy. You felt >> it's it's um you know it's you can just I can just be me. I can walk into sh I don't have to go now put on my mud. I can just meet my creator and whichever way I feel I want to be expressed right now and he sees me from whatever place I want to be. I want to be seen >> without any judgment. >> With zero judgment. Not only is no judgment, you're you're embraced. You made feel you're comfortable. Uh the SP you can go into 770, you know, you can be whatever you want and you just you're here. There's a funny story actually that I had um not too long ago. I'm I'm coming. I was in 770 for this guy walks in dressed in a hat and and jacket boy. And um he doesn't speak a word of English and he speaks a Spanish that nobody understands. Like he's they try to communicate zero communication. He doesn't nobody understands like I couldn't make out uh what he's trying to say. Bottom line is he wants to down for the so he downs for the he starts and then he says he's and within rhythm sync everybody responds and then the and I'm I'm listening to it and I'm understanding that we have there's something that we have a a a a bond a common denominator a connection that is chemic no matter who you are where you are he's called out and we all responded in rhythm sing that the best symphony and he has to pra practice with this for for for months to get into that rhythm that we have that rhythm. You come into sh I don't care who you are, where you are, you know when to say what. >> Um so that was that was what what I kind of like one of the things that I found in Kabad. >> Yeah, it's amazing stuff. Now was the change a hard change like you were uh judged or misunderstood by the people who know you from before? Um I don't know. I I I depends from what where I mean I was I was come I wasn't coming like I say that you know you can come to to Crown Heights from from Rogers from Norstrand you know or you can come I went around the world to find myself there. So by the time I ended up there >> I didn't join the uh the uh the movement right away. It took me 10 years to really understand to even open up to understand what it was. Um but once I uh once I got into it um from there is I started seeing a different a different God a different a different the questions that I wasn't allowed to ask were actually uh encouraged to ask like what was before the world was created who is God what is he like what what's going on these are questions that >> when I asked the question where I was I was told to it's ais you have to be quiet and when you have a a yearning thirsty soul like this that just is wants to you know and you shut it down it's uh you create uh the opposite of of flow you know >> right now you made a whole new circle of friends new people new community is >> so I I came to I came to Kronach and immediately yes I I met um I met new new and um very um it's like the the Reb's message is so deep that everybody is on the move everybody's part of the movement Everybody's in the even the guys that I met that were out from the from this from the from the thing they were also in and just giving me I I had very low confidence. I didn't really speak my English was broken. Um the dress I you know it was I was torn and you know and um and I was embraced and I was made to feel comfortable and uh given the you know I was speaking the different accent and I was very conscious about that I was made you know I was made to feel comfortable. It was a k. It was >> like deep deep k like really taking me in and uh you know showing me uh you know focusing on the positive focusing on the positive >> and and that's what kabad is all about. The har is that they showed you you're an example of uh a statistic. >> Correct. Um it was you know when I came to um I remember when my son went started going to school when he was about uh two or three years old when he went to go to Kaider and um I was sad for a couple of days. I was really sad. I was depressed like here goes his journey. Um and my wife tells me um it doesn't work like this. This is different over here. It's a different spiel. Um I remember going to um to camp. I'm I'm mesmerized by it. I dropped off my son in camp and I'm looking at the kids 8year-old nine year olds the way they walk you know with the couple and with the tit and bouncing a ball and dressed in a in a you know just in in a different color and I'm I started crying you were not used to it >> I was like look at these kids they just they're free they have confidence they have an expression he has an identity each kid has an his name is whatever his name is and he has an identity >> but you were sad for yourself because you it it brought you back in a place what you remember when I was no sad part at that point it wasn't sadness at that point it was it was just happiness it was just it was like wow >> but when you sent to the >> when I sent I was I was I was sad >> because you felt that was was such a burden for you and you're giving this >> I'm putting him I'm putting him into a place that is not that is not good putting him into a place that is going to be uh >> I mean it's it's a maximum facility um >> facil it's it's a maximum security facility Yeah. >> Um, yeah, it's it's it's was it's a deep deep um look, after the years, you know, going through my process, I I appreciate it. We're going to get back to that, but but for now, let's let's build up to that before. >> But, um, did you ever regret the decision you made? >> The decisions I made to end up in Williamsburg to begin with. I mean, you know, a person goes through his ups and downs and, you know, there's every day you're in a different mood and a different vibe, a different uh uh, you know, energy. Did you ever think, what did I do? Um, I never looked back. No, but let me answer that question a little more in detail. Um, I have a joke that goes with that. You know, I always say that, um, >> you know, there's there's a soul and and they didn't know what to do with it. you know, he's a struggling soul. I came knock and they don't know what to do with him. And um you know, he I'm not afraid. I wasn't afraid wasn't afraid of anything, you know, just like nothing nothing impresses me, nothing surprises me. And the Drio said, you know, send them to me. Let me let's So So what I'm saying is that um I'm not afraid. I've been through a lot on my journey. And you know, I'm not afraid of I'm not really afraid of anything. I am but I'm not I'm just afraid of one thing to end up there again to start off the journey there again. And what I'm saying is I'm not saying it in any way um to say that they are less you know I'm I'm I love I'm part of the community. I do my most of my work is is there in the community. It's my my brea my my lanceman. It's where I come from and we'll get into that too. We'll talk about the energy and the vibration. >> Um but it's a it's um >> it's a process. It's it's um what's it called? It's it's a it's a dang, you know, it's it's it's an evolution, you know. That's what I'm saying. >> It's a very rough of the edges, but it's definitely not the place where you're those that's not where you're not going into gula from that from that place of of uh of closeness. You can't it's not it's not where it's happening. >> Yeah. What message do you have for a ber or a man who's going through a hard time right now sitting in a place in a in a company and he doesn't feel it? He's in your place where you were when that age. What would you tell him right now that he he's a makish and he still does know where but what is your message for this? >> The first message is come and find me. Um the second message what message can I tell a ber? Um look it I don't think that this level of of uh extremism of what I've been through at that time I I don't think it exists right now. I think it's it's in other words that group H was we we opened up the door we're at the cusp of open up opening up where a satir boy can marry lab marry into kabad um now you hear a lot about it there's a lot of it's happening a lot and and and and I see a lot of the uh the mix is amazing how they appreciate the satar they appreciate the Hungarian the warmth I see it >> you're saying that everything evolved >> everything satar evolved >> satar evolved big time satar evolved in a way that um you know the business people they're traveling and they go to the kabat houses and they're the ones donating the mikvah they're the ones that are writing the $100,000 checks you know to make it happen they and and and I see the bond between them there's a deep appreciation between >> and also I think in the world of the the malam them and everybody's looking is they they you know they still have an ideology they still have what they believe in and but they but but it's way more open-minded they they they want to do something more for the kids that has been done. >> That's enough for them to that when they leave it doesn't come with out of that place where there's anger and and and ready to you know take the burn the world down. >> Yeah. What would you say if you wouldn't make this choice that you made? Where would you be today? >> Where are we today? >> I would be Yeah, good question. Let's play this out. I would be I would be married. I would have a family. Um I would have probably either either have a lot of money or not. Yeah, >> most probably I would um I would be probably crazy. I would be written off as being crazy because I wouldn't be satisfied. I would >> You wouldn't be satisfied. And you also believe that the surroundings would think of you the crazy. Um well maybe I don't know if they would think of me as the crazy because I see now there's the the find themselves like I see how they show up to me that you know they come in groups they understand each other there's an understanding >> but I think I would be I would probably think that I'm crazy I would think because because what are you looking for and I would still be searching for something else is clutch >> you're saying the content and the fulfillment that you have now the mission that you have and you feel that you're doing you connected you have a whatever that whatever is working for you >> is >> the color it's about being colorful >> correct that you wouldn't have you would be uh o galashian >> I would be I would be o galosian and I would be convinced that that it's me that this at the end of the day I'm I'm crazy you know it's there's not what what are you looking for with the doves I mean what else if you live in >> why you unhappy >> why you have everything you need we have a solid community there's there's you know >> there's There's everything. >> 100%. Yeah, there's everything. There is success. People are here. They're helping. You need something, they're there for you. They, you know, if you're uh they're waiting for somebody to be down so they can finally show up. Now um from all these years and the hard work that you put in the inner work and finding yourself and finding and connecting and uh what is one thing that you can never let go from your childhood from from the years that's still with you that never changed. >> Um when I walk into to Shoul and somebody dabbled and I got one of the That's how you get nervous. >> That's one thing you still have. >> So I I um Yeah, because you know it's it's I find myself being in um you know that. So let's go like this. I' on my journey I've realized that um as long as there is and tell me if I'm jumping ahead, we can go back. But um as long as you're not at peace with where you come from, you can't you're not you can't be mashia yet. You can't you can't give. >> You can only give from you know you can you have to pull pull and if how far back can you go and if if you want to take as we spoke about we opened up with >> what is this? It's about it's it's uh lighting putting the light you know turning on the light a light influencer. It's not a spir it's before spirituality. It's giving you the freedom to first just beat to first have a breath. When the child the the child the baby is born he or she is just a breath. It's just it's a pulse. >> Yeah. >> That's all it is. >> So So what you're saying is your way of being mashria. You had to make peace with where you come from. >> Not only make peace but also find the the find the strength in it. Find the power in it. find the what what was I um yeah what what did it teach me and you see I sit with with you know different people coming from different places um the way uh sits discipline that is hard to find you know and even in the uh they have it now in in in the army in Israel where they're saying that the job that these are doing it it's you can't you can't find it you can't find somebody that can sit for 12 hours focused >> they find >> which is this is our train sitting >> this comes from the gimm >> this comes from this comes from sitting forget about gal >> yeah but you were sitting on that bench >> that that that was that's what I'm saying it's not about so much the content but it was the deep discipline um you have the the average is busy with has college he has girls he has movies he has movie there's so much going on >> yeah sometimes I go into a and I see these 13 year olds 12 year olds sharklands of mandav covenant. I'm like, you bring in a over here in this place, you see thousands of burim disciplined sitting on the spot next to the father. Correct. And not moving at >> Where do you see that? >> Yeah. Look, I just brought up Shashuna was the deepest uh the deepest uh training for me. It's like a mala was 45 minutes when the dict >> that was intense. I mean it was really intense. I mean where this it's you know it was a big >> you could hear from the women's section crying when it came to a mak. >> Yeah. I mean I'm not going to I'm not going to be cynical about it. I'm just going to but yes. Yeah it was it was very intense. It was very it was very intense especially if you had no clue what you're doing here. Like what what it wasn't um >> that that was that was a big uh that was a big turn off you know from from what from where it's at. um a very very that rigid gut but but but nud is that um >> the discipline the discipline >> that's what I took I took the discipline so I've learned to to take so this is what I took and I also um what else I mean there's a lot there's a lot that I that I in the process of of of of opening and going further going going further forward and going further backward uh backwards is that I found a level of you know not just uh not just putting it into words but a flow a certain flow that I aligned with a certain strength there's a certain a certain um yeah there's a certain uh especially after co is when I really I really dove in deep into my to where I come from to my tribe uh when I saw what was happening out there in the world we the riots and and you know 47th street and and all these places where it's supposed to be you know safe and and it's upper class and there was zero uh there was nothing nobody was nobody was responding to it and and nobody there's no shame around it and I looked at man and there was the crime they committed they went to went to sh this is what we do >> um I that's when I a deep uh alignment and respect and and actually proud woke up in me I'm like yeah this is it >> wow >> we do our thing um because you know nobody here is rioting or breaking glass or or storming anything or or killing anybody, god forbid. There's just there's just a a level of I don't want to surrender to your mush to what your agenda is over here to put the army. I'm just not doing it. >> And that is a certain that comes from Williamsburg. That's a certain that's the leading >> wow >> the leaders in that is uh the smeary. >> Wow. It's amazing. So let me ask you when people ask you what you do, what is your answer? Who is Mosha Weiss? >> Yeah. So uh um yeah I I I sit a lot on that what do I do? I I think in short I'm uh I'm an influencer. >> I'm a I'm a light influencer. I it's you know spiritual spiritual is also a good word but uh more than spirituality it's um spirituality is already uh is already is already in a form. It's already in in words. It's already in a box. Um but the light the idea is to to have people to find let me just break it down. Um when you're going to spirituality it's already a step further. You're already you're already putting the person in a in a uh on a cal and if in order to uh to get a proper uh activation you want to you know make sure that all the uh the dirt is out before you close up the wound. Um, so I like to say it's it's an a light influencer. Find your light. Uh, take it back as far back as you can uh to that person. Um, ultimately um there is trauma. There's a place where the trauma starts, but there is a place before the trauma. And um the deeper you can go before that trauma uh the more uh success there is in in activating that uh that light. And what is the purpose? What's the goal? >> Oh, so wow. You want to go right there or >> No, I just want to, you know, we look for light. >> Is it is it is it is it finding your What is it? >> Um, it's it's all of the above. So, let's see. Let's see what comes. It's >> But not for the sake of of being in a space of just kicking back and uh, you know, just being checked out. It's it's finding your soul, finding your rhythm, finding your beat. We each have a beat. Everybody has a beat. We we have a vibration. Um the struggle in the struggle is in gula is that we are beating to somebody else's beat. >> Mhm. >> And because because it's gulas because we're we're in exile because we are uh not where we want to be. And we can get into that too. Ask me soon. So if in case we forget because it's an important point. >> Yeah. >> Um because of that then we we built a system that it fits all and it's by design. uh while it fits all, it's also designed for those that it doesn't fit. Um if I am in my victim mentality, then it's here to crush me. But if I'm if I'm looking if I'm searching and if I'm uh looking to be inspired, if I'm searching for something for something more, I'm not just here because I'm not here in the struggle because I'm being squashed and I'm I'm being uh uh you know, I'm and traumatized. But if I'm being uh squeezed out, then maybe I need to I'm there to explore and find something that is >> grow from it. Grow from it to find something to find my beat, you know, and and ultimately as it goes into radical forgiveness is radical forgiveness is not a place where um I just blindly forgive. Okay, you know what? That's suppression that ultimately that's not going away. You're still going to be in the struggle. Radical forgiveness is where I can actually find the co find the power in what what transpired, how I came in to be, how I'm squeezed out of the toothpaste bottle, how I'm coming and the squeeze is here to to to find my beat, to find my rhythm, to find my voice and and ultimately >> um going to and ultimately is what I see is what I'm projecting. I am Leonum. Um, whatever I'm projecting is so if I'm projecting from a place of trauma of of of of pain, that's the only thing I'm going to be seeing. I can't see. We're always we're expecting we have this image that I am here and God is over there and no miracle help me. Um, the the it's it's happen it's right here. Got is right here. There is it's happening as we are speaking. It's evolution is happening as we're speaking and especially if you're if you're a yid then we have das which means we have true choice I can choose. So I can choose to step out of my movie. I can choose to step out of my of my box and create and as long as we are in the gullis mentality and the struggle we keep creating struggle and we keep creating uh more restriction >> and and if I if I have one moment and talks a lot about it the he's like just find me one point he's like I don't want you to become a sadic tomorrow but find one sitkus within you within that that you can now expand because the whole creation started with one at one point it's it's the youth and expansion from the youth to the H to the VV where your MH back into the H. So this is the codes and this is how it flows. So basically we're looking for clarity. We're looking for clarity. Yeah. All the issues that people have the anxiety and and all the problems it the nervous system is the thing that's that that runs this whole thing. >> So if a person has the his nervous system is not regulated >> then he'll having and then it goes straight to the mind. the mind starts thinking crazy stuff and and and you know so explain a little bit what breath work does for the nervous system. What is breath work? So okay so let's go like this. Um let's let's let's see where we start with this with breath work. So there is there is fuel everything is fuels something. um a fear, anxiety, um um shame, depression, um it has it needs fuel. You got to fuel it. You can't stay alive if you're not fueling it. If somebody's depressed, um he or she will not go out to a wedding. It will not go out on the street. >> The food for that is to stay home. >> So, it is the fuel. >> It's the fuel. So, so what happens is that um and and and it's a living thing. It's a living thing. My when a person is angry, it's a living thing. It's not something that he or she's angry like there's something now they're kind of like possessed a low-level possession. All right? Something that we're used to. Um so what happens so so the same thing goes with so what happens is like this. The child is born and it's a beat. It's just it's a light. It's just a light. It's an untouched light. It's already not untouched. Let's not get carried away because the minute it's conceived, it starts being programmed. But deep inside, there's a fire. There's a there's an un uh fire that's un untouched and it's very pure. Um and then it takes on as we go through, you know, uh the birth, I mean the pregnancy, the child takes on the positivity, the negativity, whatever is happening in the house in the mothers, it it it starts layering, layering, layering. And then once the child comes out, it kind of like takes on the majority of the traumas as it as it's uh comes it goes through that transition from going in from the womb coming into this consciousness to the world >> and but it's still okay. So but then as the fear uh as different traumas start happening around the child uh nervousness um almost dropping the kid or screaming or this that and the other the child starts adapting it starts taking on a different a different shape and everything has to be alive everything has to be fueled I'm sorry and the fuel the the breath is also a fuel how so when a person is afraid if you're here we're talking and if somebody walks in you got scared There's a there's a fear. You stop the breath. You're playing hide-and-seek Bahalon and you're in the closet and the person looking for you passes by. >> You're holding your breath. >> So throughout life, we go through different scenarios that we are changing the rhythm of the breath. >> Which means that my rhythm is I'm breathing fast. I'm active. But then different things are taking place that it changes. It stops my the way I breathe stops my rhythm. >> And why does it stop my does it change the rhythm? because it takes on the rhythm of this new person that it just became either fear or anxiety or a victim. God forbid child was molested emotionally or physically. He takes on that breath. He's breathing down like a victim. >> And uh the the the professional breeders can just read the person just by the way he or she breathes. >> They can just tell you your story. Molested, abuse, all that this that and the other. So, so what happens is that um the same goes with with with uh smoking. The same goes with drinking. You know, it's it's the smoking is not what's killing the person. It's the reason the person is smoking. Because if smoking kill the person, you know, if you drink a cup of a shot of gasoline, the person dies, it's going to create drill a hole in the stomach. But cigarettes, we see people that live till they're 100 and they're fine. So, it's it's the p the reason behind it. So, everything is a living uh is a living organism and everything has to be fueled in a certain way. Now we can go through um different processes of of you know let's you know come out and let's you know come with a lift and and and just let's go talk this that. So these are all stuff that will help the person um get out of his of his head. But the breath is the most powerful fuel there is. It's it's the it's a fuel that is activates the highest uh the highest vibration in the person. The breath is as an intelligence. It's kind of like in in in kabula like it's about it's about the intention all in the kavuna. Uh so if you have the as you breathe you have an intention and the person holding the space you is there with an intention to to get you through into a certain space. Um that will change that changes the rhythm. When you change the rhythm you are now killing that other person. That's the resistance where people have when they breathe they get lazy. They don't want to my throat, my eyes, my head. Just keep breathing, keep going. And emotions come up. Keep going, keep going. It's like the when the plane takes off, you're going through the clouds and then you get above the clouds and the sun is there. So, as you breathe, you start clearing. And if you're the more time you're going into silence, as we call it, going into silence, that's the key, going into silence. The more time you spend in silence, the more you're How long can you be under underwater in the make? How long can you stay in the pool underwater? A minute, two minutes. Imagine staying under the water for 5 minutes. All right? So when I'm breathing, I'm under the water for 5 10 minutes or an hour. So there's what happens is that literally you're going from here and it's changing to the gauge is changing to white because you're eliminating the illusion of the darkness. It's just it's just an illusion because the illusion I'm keeping the illusion going uh by setting up the scene. The way I breathe and that's the food I eat and that's the stuff I listen to. The people that are that are not happy, their conversations are are conflicted. The news they watch is they always know when the next war is happening and when the next disease is coming. Like these are the people that living in that space. They're living in the fear. It needs to be fueled. And and that's what they you know from the news. That's that's what that's what they do. They feed you that you know the war only happens if if you watch the news. If you don't watch the news, there's no wars. I mean there's no war here. Everything is fine. >> Yeah. So what you're saying is we lost our way with breathing which means everyone goes through whatever they're going through and we breathe according to the circumstances and what you're saying is breath work will bring you back this is a gift that the bunch of them gave you and it will bring it will regulate your nervous system it will regulate your nervous system it will uh let's say I'm trying to think what else I mean you need to do physical activity also but breathing remember breathing is something that was done uh together with yoga it works together. So then they took just the breathing >> right >> and but >> but the yoga was an exercise a physical exercise >> as you breathe you breathe as you move that's way more effective and it's coming in people are doing you know it's it's becoming a little more uh part of the the mal but >> uh let's go what was it I want to there was still something there so the breathing will take yeah so let's go like this the struggle is let's go back to the struggle >> struggle is important >> enough when everything has to have a point of where where that the beacon something has to has to pulse and we're following the reb the spiritual leader the mat there's somebody that I'm looking up to something pulsing once the migdish was taken away from us we lost the beat it was a real like sometimes I think the was like for the for those for that generation and the generation following when they saw what's happening they're like it's a it's It's still a they saw we don't know the but they saw the which is that we have >> a certain intelligence a certain color a certain I mean there was a certain pride and you see it now it's it's coming back with what's happening in in in in Israel and all that there's a certain pride a certain way we think and that was diminished which is now is that if you breathe you're breathing through a mask >> because you can't think you have to think how am I going to pay my canison bill when really capacity of that's not even your issue like you can you can you can eliminate that problem in a second but we're so used to uh because we lost the beat we lost the we don't know where to go back to so even when you breathe you have to know where you're going you have to if you want to get to that to that space he's saying regulating the nervous system that's that's one >> but really you want to get into a place where you know where is home where am I going back to I want to go back to tion is is a code that we have in the heart And that is where the bashant comes in. That's whereas comes in. Kabula is kabula. It's more it's more out there. It's codes. Um not it's not for everybody. Butus is is is like when you you know you used to watch the back in the day you saw the programs there was codes. >> Yeah. >> So every everything is is codes and then that code eventually turns into a picture. Behind every picture there is codes. So to the whole world everything we see is fueled by oasis. These letters are behind the letters. There's an energy. There's a force. There's a power that's that's moving and then the letters are creating it. We think the letters, we activate the letters, he thinks the letters, he activates the letters and that's what creates the matz. >> So um byidus is what gassid is what the bashv >> gave us back that beat the s we know where we can go. We know >> you know it made it possible. It made this possible. This made this possible that we can talk sit here and have a conversation about about about evolution about color you know >> the where people can come you know sitting going to therapy that they did look we're going to we're going to study something we're going to take a topic >> and then we're going to sit and we're going to sit down 10 or 20 of us we're going to take a bottle of mashk >> and we're going to we're going to process it >> right >> we're going to process how do I get to that place and All of a sudden, I'm realizing that I have fear. I have trauma. I'm stuck. And in that in that circle, they worked it out. That was that was the power of that circle. When when you can often I mean you see that you walk in people you come in sometimes and you come in and you walk out refreshed and you come you walk out in power. >> Everyone is giving to each other and >> Yeah. They throw food, they hate you. But but it's it's it's all love. It's work stuff out. >> Yes. Yes. Yes. It's not it's not you know you know some call it an umban >> but but it's it's >> the inhungarian it's like it's a umb but no fine it's not for everybody it's to look to some >> the system of the ones born in 1948 the the real um sadikim they're if not for them we wouldn't be able to do this we would be you know we'd be flying around but they're this is like kabala soil this is what we're doing I'm doing three times a But the space is created. So now we can go out and and go take it to the next step. >> Wow. >> You know, >> now breath work. What did breath work do to you that logic and learning and expressing couldn't do? So um so let's go like this. So so I I I I started learning um I started learning um deeply. I I met my rabbi that was that really he's the one that cracked me open the rabb and um he gave me the gift that I was able to to start uh start learning again and and understanding and and really going into it because once I found I was like yeah I can do this this I can do this I can felt comfortable >> I can do this all day you know real >> like like you can ask any question I mean it's like and and the guy with the long white beard he can come there's no question that's off limits Everything everything has an answer and everything is a journey >> right >> um you know and I met a couple of couple of realid like real um these are these are you know level of rebas you know it's a it's the real um but there was always there was still something missing there was still something that I felt I want to go deeper I want to go deeper under the covers I want to there's something more there's another mystery there I want to it's still not it's still on the surface I'm not immersed in it I'm under the water. I'm not feeling it. And that's where I found um I found the breath work. So, let's go. We we'll build to it. It's the what the breathing did is it took me out from the to the took me from the physical into into the took me into the spirit. >> It opened up the spirit. talks about it a lot and the Reb has a very powerful mimer on uh um Kalao um where he takes us through this process of um of what is the the physical and the non-physical and and going into the spirit of the things and that's where that's where the action is the action is in the spirit and it's in which is the which is >> it's in the breath it's all it's mash is in the breath when he's going to smell it he's going to smell it and what That means is that I can explain to you the difference between the the red apple and the green apple. And I can explain to you that one is sweet and one is sour and I can go into detail and then I'm going to say just Joe just just taste it. Here you go. And ah like the taste of a lemon. You think of it and something dusty. Same thing goes with music. I can explain to you the song but then you listen to it and you're like how can I explain this to me? Just immediately the body responds to it. The breath is takes you into the spirit >> and it takes you out from from the box from the four four-way thinking. Um I'm in conflict. I'm stuck. I'm stuck with with this person hurt me. It really hurt me. >> Um there's trauma. I was abused physically, emotionally. There's real pain there. You can't tell me to forget about it. But then what the breath does is what the breath opened up to me and I was able to connect connect this to align with that I no longer looked at my trauma as two physical things that in order for me to do this I got to break something. I have to go to that person and I have to let them know and I'm either going to get the response get over it which is going to break me even more. >> Yeah. >> Or or oh I'm sorry I didn't know you know okay that feels a little better but it's still not >> what I was able to tap into is that it's all it's all energy. Mhm. >> It's all a vibration. >> It It helped you let go. It helped you let you >> Not only it helped me let go, it it trans it helped me make the transition from 10 years to 1 minute >> because when you listen to a song and you either get inspired by it, you immediately change your mood in instantly you get the goosebumps. You feel either excited or you sad or you're crying or not. Um, when I'm when I'm looking at when I'm able to look at it from going out from the going into the going into the to the spirit of it, I'm in a bad mood. If I drink a coffee, I'm going to get in a better mood. If I go for a run, I'm going to feel even better. If I go to a schwitz, I'm going to feel better. That is so I'm just changing and and by the way it works miraculously that if you change that >> you will get a phone call from that person and either say I'm sorry that I did this or >> it's just the energy >> it's the because you don't even have to do anything only exist >> something is holding this >> these two things you know they're in conflict over here for years >> but they're in conflict because I'm in a relationship with the conflict but what happens if I decide to move myself out of the conflict he can't >> he can't he can't find me anymore. You know, the same goes with trying to change uh my I'm not changing my parents. I have all respect for them. But what I can do is I can change myself and just one degree and everything shifts. You know, everything melts away. Everything shifts. Um especially if you're dealing in a in a from a space that the other person is unconscious and you're conscious. The conscious means not that I'm consciously taking going to take go to negativity. I'm using it in a positive. If I'm going consciously like, you know what, I was hurt. Um, and I'm finding the the whatever process I need to go in within me, that dissolves the whole spiel. That dissolves everything. >> Yeah. So, tell me if I'm hearing correctly. What you're saying is that if someone um has a lot of baggage and decides, you know what, I want to prove myself. I want to do something about it. I don't want to carry this baggage with me uh anymore. If he would do the breath work, he would do the right uh breath work that's that's uh needed. That means he's going to bring back his breath to where it's supposed to be like like like from when he was it was supposed to from his from when from when he was born. >> Yeah. >> Um what the breath work does is that it will is it is this correct to say that it will send messages to the brain. It will open up something in your heart that like you said before that that person I'm going to tilt myself. I'm going to let myself go and automatically things are going to fall into place. >> So let's let's let's break it down how it works. Very good. Yes. But to go just so we can understand how this works is everything has its fuel. Everything is fueled by something. My car needs get fuel. The jet needs fuel. The fighter jet needs a more fuel. And the super fighter jet has a fuel that's almost like energy. It's pure energy. That's why you can do all these maneuvers. It's almost like moving in in in like a pretzel. They can go and bend and all that. >> The sensors that are picking up my vibe, um, they haven't received the fuel. So, basically what happens is that now my sensors are covered. So, I'm being I'm being hit. Everything I see is through this. Once I once I'm once I'm I'm covered in plastic. Um, everything that I receive is coming through the plastic. So it doesn't hit the right. It's like almost like when you go into the amamel and you have an open wound, >> you feel that burn. It wakes you up. You we're not feeling the burn. So because we're receiving it through a filter, >> that's why we're going to plastic. Literally, I'm swiping the car to feel better. I'm buying I'm doing I'm spending all that to make myself feel better. >> Stimulating. >> Stimulating, but it's not really hitting the spot. It's not hitting the spot. And that's why they become like more exhausted. Like now I'm really crazy. Like no, nothing helps. My husband gives me, my wife gives me, but it's not. >> When I'm breathing, I'm removing removing those layers. Why am I removing the layers? Because that lower frequency can't live in the higher frequency. >> When I'm miserable, when I'm depressed, I'm not going. Let's go to the wedding mush. Let's go say mastop. We'll smile. You feel good. I don't want to. >> I'm angry now. Smile. Put a smile. It's going to go away. I don't want to. I want to be angry. Right. >> I want to hold this. I don't I'm not ready. >> Right. >> Um the breath penetrates. It melts it away very very intellectually because we're not here to talk about your traumas. We're not here to take anything away. We're just going to breathe. We're just going to breathe. And you're going into that space of of and of course the emotions come up. It's a process. It takes a minute or two. Some get there in one breath. They have a deep experience. Some it takes them, you know, they say it takes six to eight times. But I I believe the breathing I do is quicker because I also put in >> it. It it's combined with different uh technologies that I've uh learned and I picked up. >> And what kind of settings is it? Is it in a circle? Is it people laying on the floor? What is this? >> It's a it's done in circles. Um mainly I mean I the one-on- ones that's one-on-one is couples. You know, it's done in a setting in a very cozy place with candles and you know soft music and uh I used to be more intense with heavier music, but now I'm that's what it's where I'm at. That's where that's where I'm driving. >> It's candle lit. >> Yes. Quiet. >> Quiet. peaceful and you know it's it's about um yeah taking them to taking them to that space you know taking them to the promised land. >> Wow it's it's it sounds amazing. >> Um in what areas do you practice? Is this uh you have you Brooklyn is >> I work out I work out of Crown Heights. >> You work out. So that's where the facility is. >> That's where facility is. Yeah. >> So if someone wants to get in touch with you to come to my here and there I have a space but really like I feel comfortable in my my home that's where I'm you know. Now let me ask you about people who are frozen and those people you know how do you get it's you see the question is you know what they say the wrong people are in therapy the people who are living with people who don't want to go to therapy are in therapy >> right >> now if if someone who uh is a frozen person this is this is this is this is foreign to him because that person doesn't even uh he's not looking for the for the promised land. He's not looking to to uh better themselves. So the question is how do you penetrate to a person who is closed shut off completely when this thing could could be miracles. So so so there's different methods um how to do that. Ultimately if there's no will there's no way. >> Yeah >> that's starts with that. That is >> that's the basic that's and under right now this it talks about the rats and everything is the >> everything is the ratson that then the attached and that's >> there's no desire there >> there's no desire there's no drive there has to be a drive that's number one then there is also creating the desire creating the putting the person into a process of of wanting >> now who is the one who is creating that is that the spouse >> or >> so so once the spouse ends up by the facilitator then it's his job to to get to put the fire. So, so yeah, there's always it starts off with one one party shows up, the the the the husband or the wife show up and one of them is like, I can't anymore, >> right? >> And they're ready to go. And I'm like, fine, no problem. You're going to go, but before we go, let's clean up the mess. Give it a shot >> then. Not even a shot. There's no shot. You're going >> But before you go, let's at least know let's prepare you for the next step in your life, >> right? >> And that's where stuff starts happening. And um so what happens is as follows. If you process one one side properly and as we know that everything is in relationship with everything. So if I'm shifting one place there's going to be movement on the other side. It has to be the ice is going to break. So >> if you do it right is that person. >> No no no let's go like this. Even if even let me back up. >> Even if whatever you do there's going to be a shift. >> There's the issue is there's a lot of stuff out there that that makes things worse because it's it becomes a pro. It's us versus them is the the finally the the the the woman gets the voice and now it's you know there's there is that the the the frustration and the the disappointment comes up and we dealing with that. So it has to be of course it has to be healthy. It has to the intention has to be right. That's number one. And that's what I said before. If you're not aligned with your past, you can take the person to town. You can't take them all the way. You can take them on a journey. But if you want to take him home to, you know, to to the promised land, they have you have to be aligned because if there's still resentment, you know, I can't I can't all the way unlock, you know, the person. Um, so what's happening is that um, if if I always tell them like this, they come, my husband, my wife did this. I'm like, look, this is not this not marriage counseling. I'm not a marriage counselor. This is not what's going to you're not going to be sitting here for 10 years. This is this is heavy hit to the point. Um, we're going to be working with you. I want to talk about you. I want to make you the best you can be. So, it means when when the incoming is coming from her, from from him, you're going to know how to hold yourself. You want to be in your confidence and most people show up there to what happens is that the there's there's the trauma, there's a lack of confidence. So, we're inviting the we're inviting the battle. The conflict is there. They're coming prepared. They don't know how to live when they're not in conflict, right? >> Um and you start building the person and sure enough, you know, not long after he shows up or she shows up either to, you know, to challenge me or to or to step into it, right? You know, and and and that's how and that's how it starts. >> And you see a lot of success in this >> films. A lot of success. >> You see that if one person does the work and the heart is in the right place, you're saying the other one falls into place automatically >> or or falls out, but >> falls out whatever is supposed to happen. >> Yes. I I haven't had falling out yet. I mean to the point where there is a you know, >> right? >> But but maybe maybe one, but there was no it's a different situation. There was there was nobody home to begin with. It was a different situation. But but if there if the kaum are there, if the fire is there, then there is there's what to work with. Yeah, definitely. >> I want to move over to plant medicine. >> I want to talk about uh you know this is very popular today. >> Can first let's discuss what plant medicine is. There's uh Iaska and there's mushrooms and there's what's what's plant medicine? So plant medicine is not drugs. That's number one. for those who have already responded to the question before before I did. >> Um there is drugs and then there's plant medicine. Plant medicine can also be drugs I guess. I mean teenagers take it in a in a in a recre in a recreational way. Now you don't you're not a fan of that. >> No I'm I'm I'm a fan of I mean I tell my experience what I what I found in uh in the plant medicine. So the plant medicine is for um so there's the iwaska there is there is the the the psilocybin the mushroom and then there's the mdma these are the three main ones there's others you know but these are the three mains so so you know to just to to share what I saw that that worked and and you know um it's another form somebody that is deeply stuck um it's another way what it happens is that it changes the uh it it breaks down the physical similar to what the breathing does um you can get to the same place with the breathing. >> Mhm. >> You can get the same place with the breathing. >> Wow. um you get some you get to the some close even it's even at some point it's even more in some in some way it's even more it's more convenient safer it's you feel because if it's >> it's natural >> it's natural and you know no matter how far deep you went like all I did was breathing you know so >> but some people are saying that in breathing you can get into a certain high to uh >> yes >> you know >> you say in a good in a good >> like whatever >> you get get into a place >> not just breathing >> you get into a place what happen what's happening is that um you have your your you know your your higher self and the higher self is kind of like communicating with the with the physical body >> with my in other words whatever I'm doing right here right now all the work that I'm doing is trying to when I'm having a good day when you're having a good day you're in alignment you're aligned with your higher self >> correct >> and and you're opening yourself up sometimes only one energy point and sometimes two sometimes all of it like the sadic is an he's fully you know he's open and he's he's he's there. Um I mean even with different they were all you know within that they were but then you had the superpowers these were you know these were full full light >> um so so what's happening is that um the the plant takes you back to it what it does is it melts away the right so so we have we have some of some are deeply stuck >> um talking about the food that that we were fed. Um the food that we're eating is also based on the the information, the message that was given. The harshness of the message needs the harshness of the food. You can't take somebody just walked out from a peaceful uh from the jungle. You can't give him a bag of gushers. It's poison to him. The fact that we can even look at that you some you walk into the supermarket and you see the the shopping carts. It's like all I see is chemicals, you know? It's it's and that's what we feed to the kids and and that comes with a message. It comes with a message that there's a message that that needs that food. Um the med the plant medicine is going to unt untwist you, unwind you. Sometimes the person is so deeply wounded. We have to go back to a place of um you know conception or deeper than that. And this is basically what the plant is is another form where it takes you into a uh to to another to another space. >> Now is it is it making you forget or is it making you to remember what you forgot or is it taking you to a place you know uh you know you want to see more. >> So good. So, so from from bottom up, first of all, the problem is that we don't forget in the right in the perfect world, we would forget like if we lived somewhere out there in the woods and we lived we're self uh you know uh we're doing our own thing then we would after a process like that or even after a breathing or after learning the finishing a day of learning to you would forget. I would forget saying every night I I go to sleep I forgive and I forget. The problem is that doesn't allow you to forget because when you forget when you come back from your 5day 10day vacation after Yamv um P was waiting for you in the mailbox he has all the bills lined up for you. He takes you right back to where you were and you remember one second. You just finished the whole and you're just you let go. You're on a different diet. Um remember remember the um the the the part of the the the PES program is that we are changing our diets which means that certain foods hold certain grudges. >> So now that I'm changing I take I go off the whole spiel you're a new person you're you're flushed the system with wine. >> Yeah. >> And you're eating matzah. You're not inflated. There's no inflation. Right. >> And and I'm I'm at peace >> or I'm meeting my my process while I have to sit home for two weeks now deal with my wife and kids and all that. and Monday morning you're back in >> you're back you're reminded you're you're reminded the whole stack is is right in front of you and your boss or your employees or employer you're reminded so so in the right we have an opportunity to forget and start over once you get into that pulse went into that beat to that vibe to the the origin of it to the to where you were initially original where you start off as a child you have opportunity to restart um the problem is that we don't because we're reminded that's number one. So saying we forget now the process what it does is it softens the blows. It softens it changes it it makes you even if you make contact uh for for one hour with your deeper self with your senses with your essence that already changes everything. It already changes the mat already you know you know some people are stuck in in in in a bitter uh you know separation and all that they come out of a process like that and they have clarity that because a part a part of the process is that we are in the struggle I exist in the struggle if you take the struggle away from me who am I >> right I I am so that helps us >> helps us shift now also what's happening is that the same goes with the breathing and the inner work in the child work not everybody has to do it. It's not it's called it's her immunization. >> So so the question is uh if the goal is to forget which means the negativity get rid of it and make it into do you forget or is it you know after after a ceremony two weeks later is the person back where it was? was this forgetfulness um while the ceremony was going on, how long does it last? You want to be in a circle with like-minded people. Okay. Um key factor is is that if you are, you know, if you're not in a healthy environment, you're going to get back, especially even worse in a sense because you're raw and and you're being twisted and taken on a ride. Um, once you see, you can't unsee, >> right? >> Once you tap in, once you see a moment of truth, once you pour the water on the sugar, you can't stop it from melting. It's going to melt. >> Yeah. >> It's a process. And yes, you forget. Of course, you forget. It's it's it's it's um we are not physical beings. Even the bone is not the um is not physical. The um is is something also that is that is a it's a it's an energy. It's just a a tougher matter, but it grows back when it breaks. >> Right. >> Right. So, everything is moving. I I used to say the um you know, why do we cover when someone gets a cut? Why do we cover it? >> Why do we cover it with with with we cover it up? >> That we shouldn't see the miracle that's happening, what we're really made out of. >> Because if you wouldn't cover it, you would see how this thing heals by itself. >> Heals by Yeah. Well, you kind of have to cover cuz it's going to get infected. But but not But let's just say >> you can watch it. >> But you can watch it happening. Like if you were to do a a camera that that detects it, you watch this amazing thing that this is open and then it grows back. So our whole existence is this way. >> Yeah. >> So my emotions are that way too. >> Wow. >> I get a deep cut and then I can change it. It's like it's like when you make a soup. I can and the old old self is you make the soup and it's too much uh too much salt, you throw a fit. But now you know you just add water, add vegetables. The same goes in my emotions. If I'm having a moment of if I'm feeling anger, if I'm feeling if I have a trauma, it's an energy. What what can I do to sweeten the deal over there? What do I need to hear? What do I need to do? Do I need to talk to the person? Do I need to not talk to the person? Do I need to disconnect from the person? Do I need to go for a run? Do I need to work out? You know, anything that's going to raise my vibration for long enough that I can start. And every time you do this, you go deeper. There is there is deeper healing and there is deeper you make contact with the deeper self until and and then of course you have to put something in in that space when you take out you take empty out the garbage can you have to put something else in there otherwise the same garbage comes back in there >> right now what about people who want to use plant medicine for an escape because they it takes them away from from you know they they're having a hard time and for this weekend we'll take them way and then I don't know what happens. I was going to ask you my next question is does this amplify what's there? Which means if that person is a corrupt character, if that person has an ego and he's doing this as an escape or whatever recreational you were saying and he comes home with a bigger ego that he has. Now if someone is spiritual, he'll see Hashem. I don't know. Is that what it does? Give me give me more more of a what does it mean that comes in with a bigger ego? Give me more go more. >> Let's if that person is is is uh is not working on himself. He's not working. He doesn't have is bad midas and he is all into his ego and he goes to escape because obviously he's running away every day from his life but this is an escape for him. a weekend um with plant medicine gives him a you know it takes him away from his pain. It's just nothing different than than alcohol and drugs. >> Yeah. So so let's go like this. Um so your question is if such a person if it if it's beneficial to him or if it if it it's counterproductive. >> Yeah. Like if then it's a drug then it's nothing different than than uh he gets addicted to this weekend that he needs to he'll wait all week to go to this weekend for plant medicine. So that is poisonous. >> The answer is yes. The answer is yes. Um it can >> yes to what it amplifies. >> It can be counterproductive. >> It can be counterproductive. And is it amplifying what's there or is it a person who has an ego all of a sudden is going to come humble? >> So um so what's going to happen is as follows. Um what happens is that when it amplifies it, it also depends it it regardless it puts the person on on a journey. >> So now it's like I've done this. I've tried this. This is garbage. nothing is working. Okay? You know, so what's next? Now, if he's if he hops off the train, then then he's just, you know, he's going to check out and uh whatever. He hides in a corner. Um if he keeps going, eventually he's going to burst that bubble because what's happening is if you're not penetrating all the way to the core, it just like you said, it's become the bubble is becoming bigger and it's becoming more blocked, >> right? >> Okay. Um, but yeah, I've I've seen some that just go and do this again and again and again and again and and there's no there's no real no real movement because you're only going to go as far as as far as your is you want to go and as far as the person taking you >> now you have to do inner work also while this is happening you have to you have to have your control of your mind >> integr well while integration is everything control no I mean during look >> and attention is is important the key because at the end of the day you're going to end up where you started it's whatever you aim from that's where you go >> right so that's what they say before you even start what's the intention >> what's the intention is key now as while you're on the process you're not going to remember your intention you're you're on a very fast moving uh parachute uh flying >> you're flying um but >> it you ultimately in the process or in the morning like ah I have clarity I'm aligned I I have peace I I released I'm letting go. Remember, it it checks you out. You're getting off the radar, >> right? >> So, if you're off the radar, all your friends, all your noise friends are um uh they're looking for you. And if you're not feeding them, what happened to when when the Agel uh Mosha said it'll be back at a certain time and it wasn't. And the Edrav, they they started panicking. >> Yeah. >> Because they they they needed something to hold on to. They either either would do something this or or we're exploding. We're like, we're going to cease to exist. So this is similar when you're checking out when you're getting off the radar eventually um there is definitely elimination of some of the of of the garbage. >> Now some people think that this is a substitute for conventional medicine that is is is it too you know what's your opinion as far as you know they're pushing medication today the doctors for the world is is is on medication. So this is not Can someone think for a second that you can get off the medication by healing with plant medicine? >> 100%. >> You believe in that? >> No, I don't believe it. So that's what that's what's happening. >> You've seen it. >> Yeah. People walk in cripples and uh you know and then they they they do a breathing and they do a journey and uh and they're offered their medication. However, there I mean somebody told me he was on meds for 10 years and then he went he did a process psychedelics and he's off off all of his three major addictions they were dealing with and he's he's off of everything 100%. >> Yeah. Breathing it breathing itself takes >> because I had a guy over here who has these uh what is it called? Hbot, you know those uh you get into these um they they they they the machine makes you breathe >> oxygen oxygen chambers. Okay. >> You know what that is? >> I know the pro uh the the u the prevention tank is you know the the >> it's an oxygen chamber on the No, you're talking about something else. >> No, I'm talking about a facility that has oxygen chambers and you go into this chamber and it force it's like an oxygen. you put on a mask and it forces the air >> that you should get them off and he say >> and he says that people who are like you know sick physically sick are coming out >> different but you're saying that you're not a big uh fan of the medication that is going out. Absolutely not. What I mean it's it's 100% let's call what it is clipper. It's garbage. It's >> but it's saving people's lives. >> It's not saving nobody's life. >> Mental health. It's saving. Half a world is on mental health. >> I want to stay within my boundaries of my of my what what I can you know what I'm authorized to you know. >> Yeah. to. But look, as a as a as um a light influencer, people that are on medication, what's happening is that you're taking you're taking this this robot, taking this machine, and if he's down, you give him a pill that brings him up to here. If he's up, you're bringing him down. And then he's flatlined. He's now in zombie world. He's just moving to a to a beat that somebody created in the lab. And that's why it's important. The plant medicine is a whole different plant medicine has a spirit in it. It has has a in it. >> I understand. But the question is if you're talking about healthy people who had little slip or because a tremendous is there are people who are living on this uh you know you're talking about serious uh mental health uh that they're they're living on this. This is saving their lives. >> So so let's go like this. There is there is um obviously we're talking about people that were mishuni and then they somehow had a slip like they were in yeshiva and they were crushed and they got on pills right >> for these cover there's no question that the the plant medicine or and the breathing this type of work is definitely the medicine for them and they can get off >> that we understand >> now even somebody that is deeply um you know skitso and bipolar >> there is a point It goes deep deep deep deep but there is a point inside where there is normality. >> Okay. It depends. Um you have to go to somebody that you know qualified. It's not a process that you can do in in a studio. It's a you have to take them out into the wild into the woods. But definitely if you you have to push through >> um and it's probably not a onetime process. It's it's a a few weeks but definitely you're getting to that point of we going deeper than the mish. Wow. >> Started somewhere. >> What about the genes? >> There is there is deep inside there's something that you can touch. There is no such thing. We all there's some we got twisted somewhere. Um if you're holding if you're holding space from that place which means like this. If you're only in space place, there is no fear, fearless, courage, um um courageous, commitment, dedication. There isn't anybody that you can't save. Everybody can be saved. It needs time and it needs needs it's delicate >> patience. >> Patience, but there isn't I I've I've Yeah. I've I've seen I've worked with not even not even with with the plant medicine, but I'm saying I've worked with with uh people that have been, you know, on on on medication and all that >> in very bad shape. >> Very bad shape. And you keep focusing and and the the the job of of of a of a a worker of a a light worker is to um to see the all the stuff that I'm taking is from is from the sur those are my teachers. Now what you're saying is um based on spirituality also. So this means if that person you were talking about the person that has a mash um are you introducing him to Hashem or introducing him that the world of it's meant to be uh you know the the anger the frustration the control is is that part of it >> I'm I'm introducing him to creator not to Hashem >> not to an ibish there to creator. >> What is that? That's that's Hashem is is a little bit was the word was molested >> was you told me but yet you're fighting with this guy for for because he didn't send you cuz he took your deal or he opened up the store. So you're conflict your imam is conflicting that was one of the struggles I was dealing with like we have a min we have we we have the the hold on on Irish but yet you see a complete there is no amina there's no and then >> what about his roots and is my roots and >> what is my roots you surrender to >> what it is >> that's a mad but I'm not sure if if he wants you to be happy if you're not if you're if you're then then you're not that can be his roots and >> yeah but the question is if you can get to a place that >> whatever is happening in your lives you understand and know not know you know it >> that uh it's good for you >> so you're talking about you can get there that's called is called >> that I have no there's nothing he's fully surrendered to what is and correct went through that process the only way he was able to go from being enslaved and being a prisoner accused of of rape to become the aanic a mishame is because he wasn't phased at all. He was he was he just went deeper within himself. >> He was a male in the bar. He was >> he was Yeah. But there was one time he made one move because he thought he has to make a move >> asking also he went on because for himself >> um for himself he was okay staying there. He was okay sitting there. He was holding the space for whatever. But at some point he's like but there's a job to do over here. So he touched but guess what? He was okay with it. >> Right. >> So, but he asked the question like this. Uh the question was about for those people that um >> you want to come to that like you said the normaly you said that there's something there very very deep >> I I I was a contractor we're talking you're talking about the Indian we're talking about me but I can share from my view I was a contractor for 18 years I built so I I I I see it in that this is how I see I see a structure somebody comes in I see a I see a structure and I try to see the the I see the the the biggest highest potential in the person. And and sometimes I get they're like, I want you to talk to this person before you see my wife or before you see my husband. >> I don't want to talk to nobody. I know you have a problem with I don't want to see that. And I see a whole different picture. I look at the person and sometimes there's uh there's resentment for that. You know, it's like you're stripping me. You're stripping me from my ego. I had that too as a blow up. You can't strip me from my I I I I was abused and I have a story and you're not seeing me like I'm not holding space for that. I hear but uh you know you can go to therapy for that but but >> So what you're saying is when you see somebody you're looking at the person I don't want to hear your history. I don't want to know anything. I'm looking at you as a >> I want to hear your history. >> Yeah. I want to hear your history but from you not from somebody else. You tell me your history. I want to hear your history. I want to hear your story. I want to have compassion for your story. Um but I am not um but I'm as he's talking all I'm still the image the person walks in I see the image somebody comes in I go into and uh and he's on pills medication I'm like why are you medication blah blah fear what are you talking about in strong confident I mean I see the image how I how I can picture him and sometimes it takes a minute and those who stick to go they they you know there life-changing experiences just from you know from from uh introducing them to introducing them to uh to their spirit introducing them to creator >> introd taking them to creator to creator is something that is uh the beat the pulse the original pulse and then of course and then of course these are little degrees of change but yet differences Teliv a different a different vibe but yet it's all if you take him back to creator he's able now to re-enter the space to reenter the and from a different uh >> wow >> a different place of of uh finding himself >> it's fascinating >> finding his voice his color his expression so many of them most of them that you know they lose weight they start playing music instruments just expression because there's there there is um I'm limit limited in my in my words. I'm limited to how much I can express. At the end of the day, I'm limited to how much I can really tell you. And if if you're not well a good, you know, expression um and now you're you're you're down on yourself because you're not really expressing well. um music sounds um you know share something uh fruit food you know different different expressions u will will um that that's that's another I had somebody that um he came he was we're doing a circle and he tells me he's like look I'm I'm I'm inspired is an old in this in his 30s I want to connect I want to start I want to d I'm I'm inspired I feel the fire but um I'm dyslexic and citizen for them and he's like I can't I can't put on the film I just have resentment to it and I because every time I put it on >> so what do you do with a guy like this you know got what are we doing so if you go into the spiritual and if you're going into to his levish then you're stuck you can't help the person you have to put them on pills because he has to take away the pain but if I go to the to the creator if I go to the the beat I said, "Listen, if you were supposed to be a machine that is expressed through speech and reading, you would express the speech and that's who you are. Who are you? You're not supposed to be reading. You're supposed to put on your film." He's very musical. >> Put on your film. Put on your favorite song. Say, "That's it for you." And sit with it for five to six minutes. That's it. >> This is your >> He broke down in tears. And I haven't heard from him. I think he's out there. He's flourishing. I see him. He's out there. >> No, but you're saying something very profound. When you look at a person, you're looking at him, not from where you come from, what society you live in, who is your neighbors. You are seeing that person and you're trying to take his tools that he has been given and bring out in because I'm thinking of a of a of a boy. The father reached out to me and this boy is just home. Doesn't want to go out. He's in bed all day, plays video games. And he's also he's getting heavy because he's eating and he's like you said before he's fueling fueling his depression more. He's not going out. Sits home from from morning, noon, and night. Doesn't want to go out and he is stuck with his son. >> Right >> now the problem is that the son doesn't have the desire yet to go and and and and look for help. So the father wants to help him. And that is a huge problem when it comes to these things because if you're sending me, I'm not open to listen. But if a person sees you like that, if a bul gets to see you and you see him from a lens that nobody in his class in the school is a failure everywhere he goes and comes into sh and thinks everybody's looking at him. He told me all these details really struggling this boy and he's getting older. He's a teenager and it's not good. So, so what's happening is that um you know sometimes you have a couple shows up and and they're uh expressing their they're there to discuss their son that they're struggling with. >> Yeah. >> And uh after listening to I'm like how old how old is your son? He's six years old. >> I'm like six years old? That's fascinating. Like two grown adults are being like coming here to talk about a six-year-old boy. But I'm listening. I'm listening because they're telling me their story. It has nothing to do with a kid. Remember, everything is in relationship with everything. Especially a child that has no he's not strong enough to have his own voice, his own expression, especially the way we were raised and not just us. Every the whole world shuts down that little kid. >> Um what that kid is expressing is just expressing the father. It's expressing the parent. So either a child like this uh the father is goes out looking for the help. He's the one if he's going to switch, he's going to shift, the child is going to switch. I mean there's something there probably a lack of compassion from the mother or the parents somewhere and the and the child is either more aligned with with one of the parents and and processing the the lack the void of one of the parents. >> So what you're saying is something big. You're you're saying that if a parent is struggling with a b or whether someone is struggling with a daughter they should evaluate themselves if they're aligned. >> Sure. So >> the vi the energy that they give off in the house um which is going to help >> not just not yeah that's number that's that's yeah for sure it's it's it's like it's definitely you know when I when I talk to parents it's you know should I bring in my daughter I'm like what am I going to what do I talk to a 12-year-old I mean or an 18-year-old it's hard for me to talk this language you know the 18 I can already communicate with you >> but um I want to talk to you guys >> let's talk to you where's is the, you know, is there is there a little, you know, is there a little uh love between each other? Is there a little, you know, is there's a disconnect? You'd be surprised that you may not notice what's missing, but your child is picking up on it because our children is is is an upgraded version of it. It's a it's an it's an evolution of the parent. So, whatever you think you didn't need and you were okay doing as a child, that child, this number four, number three child is already a deeper essence of me. And he needs that. And not only that, it could be sometimes a child has is musical and it's coming from one of the a deep uh hidden uh uh talents that the parents have. But since it was never developed by the by one of the parents because they never knew they had it because their father wasn't open, their parents weren't open to it. So now I'm suppressing my essence. My pure essence of that child is being suppressed and I give him everything. No, no, no, no. He has an expression that it's not your fault. He there's an expression there that you're suffocating because you're not open to it. >> And that's the avoidant to find that that that >> Yes. Because there's no if that kid is he doesn't have a will. You're saying if he's eating, he's got will. If he's sitting on that game on on that game on that Xbox, he's got will. >> Then he knows what he want. >> There's a lot of will in that thing. >> That is that is a good point. >> There's a lot of fire there. >> I want to move over to nutrition. >> Okay. Food is something that we put into our bodies as well and we put it into our minds as well. So nutrition is a tremendous huge subject. So what is what what does nutrition do to us? How does it affect us? Our moods, the depression or the energy that we have because we are not educated in it enough. We don't educate the kids and even adults. We are busy with the business. We're busy with our there is a big uh awakening about mindfulness and you know breathing but nutrition is is uh a big part because imagine doing all kinds of self-improvement and leaving nutrition out working with the therapist breathing walking uh your mind you're learning you're connecting to Hashem and when it comes to the kitchen we just completely lost mind, body, spirit. So, um, the sadic doesn't have to watch what he eats. >> All right. Why? >> Because my used to drink coke. If I drink a cup of coke, I'm out. You know, let's see. >> Um, why? Because he's he's on top of it. We'll explain in a minute. He he sees it for what it is. it doesn't have an effect in him. Um, for us it's it's it's um it's who we are. It's what makes us because we are surrendered to we become surrendered to what to what to what we eat. Um it's you know it's a it's a big um it's almost like a crime if I may say one of my passions is is nutrition is food and the first thing that I that I did when I started doing this work a while back is that I I teach them about food like when I do the this sham there's that the fabas I I talk about food and and today it's like um all these houses all these homes are organic and they're there no no processed food and there's there's you know as much it's a little more money but there's no processed food there is awareness there's mindfulness >> um >> you go into to any kosher supermarket over here um you can't find anything I mean I walk through the aisles and it's like chemicals plastic plast sugar it's processed >> even when I want to go okay I'm going to settle for a dried mango even that is sugarcoated I mean I'm okay with a piece of cake that it's sweet but it doesn't need seven spoons of sugar and then another three in my coffee. If I'm going to have a piece of cake that has sweet, then I don't need sugar in my coffee. Right? So, that's those are the basics. Um the food is um is is one of the one of the main um one of the main pollutions that we're dealing with is the food is the is the processed food. It's um it's what creates, you know, the the it blocks the sensors. It it disconnects the the the person it it takes you up and down. There isn't it's not balanced. Um now thank god now we have like the basics. We have sourdough. Sourdough is >> is sour dough better than the regular. >> Yeah. Also let's let's understand it. >> Yeah. >> You have a um the body keeps evolving. We keep changing. Our faces change. We evolve. We keep changing. We look different. Um, >> you mean we change from generations from before? You say >> we we actually No, back in the day and generations ago, >> people would actually change the way they looked. Like the breeder didn't recognize Yasf. Not only because he did he had a beard cuz you have not have a beard from 40 years ago. Your friend recognizes you. He literally changed the way he looked. They changed. The breeders didn't change because they were when he they left they were they stayed with the same diet. They stayed the same thing. But were people more, you know, they were more built. They were bigger built. No, that's >> they were bigger built. They were stronger physically. But >> so we changed because of the foods we eat. I mean, >> we're weakened. Yeah. We're in different. We're we're dealing we're we're take we took on the body based on the story we're being told. We're we're breathing based on the story we're being told. We're fragile. We're all and you know, it's a different it's a different culture. And then we're we're fitting the culture. That's what it is. And and I have to that's part of the is that I have to submit myself. I have to surrender to this shenanigan, right? I have to surrender to to uh burgers. >> It became the standard. Yeah, >> it became the standard. So, and not only that, in order for me to be successful >> in this in this matz over here and to work 19our days and struggle and hustle, I have to take on a certain persona. That persona is this persona, >> right? Especially here in in in America. >> Sure. So um so what's happening is like this. Let's take bread. You take um sourdough bread. Takes 36 hours for it to to rise and it keeps growing. It keeps it keeps evolving. It never stops moving. When you ingest it, when you eat it, you get co from it. You start mov it it lets you evolve. It lets you change. When I'm taking uh bread that's done in two hours, I put a chemical in there that that uh goes through the process that's supposed to take almost two days and now the process happens in 3 hours. What happens is once I eat that, it's it's artificial. So, I can't expand. I can't I can't grow from it. That's where the stomach comes in. That's why we all have the gut because it's not processing. The body doesn't know what to do with it. not only doesn't know what to do with it, um it um it becomes um it's stored as fat. Um it it it's not used as energy. Um and then it needs it becomes a certain you become moody, you become sluggish, you become it helps the depression or the anxiety and all that. And we become become that we're stuck and we're stuck in that, you know, in that repetitiveness. You know, after Shabas, we have that sugar hike and we need something sweet to feed that after you just finish that whole the shabas. So, you become lazy, you become uh aggressive, frustrated. There's a lot of frustration around that. Um, you know, we're not going to get into that lack of >> Yeah. I mean, but the thing is we grow up the kids like that. You see those aisles of Nash in the supermarkets? >> Yeah. >> I mean, this is we we reward the kids with that. the candies and nash and it's it's all uh if you grow up kids in this like you said I mean in this where we living and this is our culture um you're 18 years old 20 years old are you going to start changing now um well first of all today it's much easier um my kids didn't grow up that way they weren't deprived from it but I mean there wasn't >> you didn't bring in sweets in the house >> there was there was sweets but but you know not no there wasn't that type of sweets. There was no sweet soda. There was none of that. None of that's garbage. >> No candies in there. >> No, there there's organic candies now. Now it's easier cuz people are more, you know, >> yeah, >> find, you know, you're not finding it in these supermarkets. But if you go a little bit outside, you know, you can find all that everything is uh may not have the CRC hatchet on which which that's that in itself is a problem. >> Yeah. >> Why they're encouraging, you know, go out there and and and do the right thing. Just bring in the stuff. It's already it's already out there. >> Yeah. >> You know, you just got to bring it in. But why do we ignore it? Because of comfort, because of stress? I mean, is this this is like a a relief? You come home after a hard day and you just I don't know just attack that fridge or the ice cream or >> Yeah. Well, there is there there look like this. I I didn't eat bread 15 years. I didn't touch any bread. >> White bread. >> White. I didn't because I couldn't eat it. I I would eat it. I would get I would feel the heaviness. I would feel like I put a >> You're crediting your weight loss. You were saying that you were heavy when you were younger >> to this to this white kala white bread. >> Yes. White kala the the grape juice is like that's like a chemical that's like an instant headache immediately. >> What about what about potatoes? >> Potatoes are good. It's it's it's a vegetable. >> But a kegle is very fat. >> If I eat keigle >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's it's not a problem. You know, you do you can eat if it's if it's if it's not processed. Anything that can sit on a shelf for more than 3 days and you still eat it, you shouldn't be eating it. >> You know, I do I eat crackers, but but it's a moderation, you know. Fine. It's also I'm checking the ingredient. If it has 20 ingredients in there, stay away from it. >> Mhm. The less the better. >> The less the better. It's simple. Flour, wheat, oats, and you know, next it's it's you can you can take it. >> And and and and also the gut. If if people have the gut gut leaks from uh that is also something that is related to >> because the body it's a vessel and if you put in their chemicals and the the vessel becomes weak you know everything is everything is energy Allah is energy >> everything is the we spoke about is the spirit everything is part of that so if if I'm eating food so let's go like this I I wanted actually to start off with that how important food is >> yeah Um, so this this is >> we were on to something. >> No, this is this breaks it down. >> He talks a lot about food. Yeah, >> talks about food says that um your dreams are based on the food that you ate. Not only does it based on the food that you ate, but if I ate the bread before the cheese and or the cheese after the bread, it's going to be a different dream. Why? Because each food has a has a code. It has a it has and based on the letters based on the how that I take in that's what's going to be that's what is going to be coming out. Not only that he's saying you're talking about the environment that you're eating it in and how you eating it. How where the space that you're at. So everything is everything is codes. Everything is letters. And based on the codes that I'm taking in that's what I'm going to be producing out. So now when we are g eating feeding our kids and our our kids our inner child my inner child um corrupted codes you're going to get a corrupted message. That's the message you're going to be processing. And that's why you see out there what's going on out there is just it's just >> there is so much aggression. There's so much um this mech like sometimes they just they can't they can't help themselves. Sometimes you feel you're in a jungle. You know, it's a war out there. >> Straight in a jungle when sometimes you go you leave for a couple of days and you think it looks like uh you know these um what the crabs you know like it's like finds them. >> And you're saying that this is 100% a correlation with the stuff that you put into your mouth. >> Yes. And if if because our life is a dream it's a more it's a walking dream but it's also a dream. It's not the reality. The real we haven't hit reality yet >> yet. The reality is the moment you have in your Zen moment after a breathing or after a process. That's the reality. Um we're in a dream. We need to wake up from this dream. And we keep fueling the dream. I keep inspiring my dream. If as long as I'm out for lunch now, I'm inspiring my community to be out for lunch. And everybody is, you know, that's how it works. If we if we're going to change the food, if we're changing the the the body, then there's going to be a different message. There's going to be a new dream is going to be created. And we see that with the people that are doing the breathing, they're uh losing weight, they're eating healthier. Um there's a different they talk a different talk. They talk a different dream. It's a different dream. You know, it's not about it's not about uh my existence. My value is not about how big of a sim I make or how much money I can I can spend on that or how how how much I'm going to spend and how much. It becomes a different life. It becomes a whole different the is the letters are different. It's a struggle because you're being reminded that you belong over here. So now you're kind of like in a different uh different cal. But if you're if you're aligned, if you have the confidence and if you're rel relentless and if you found your truth, you f if you go to your beat, if you're going into your to your light to to to before there was before the spirituality, now you can enter spirituality and now you can you can you can you know create and and be bring light into this world and find ultimately connect to uh connect to the to the to migrate out of there. >> Yeah. >> And it's not going to be what does that mean? It means that while there was the basis mikdish, we had that was the centerpiece and we all we ate we it was feeding us and we were feeding it. Right? The migish had the the windows where the light was going outward. The smiggish was taken away. We can look at it two ways. I can look at it from a place of trauma. I can look from a place of victim. We lost the bas or I can understand that anything that is a high vibration is there is nit is there forever. So mdish is a higher vibration. It's there forever. The bumlish went the light. There was a mold and then that mold fit a light. It created the it created the breath. The breath in the bumish was created based on how downloaded the the blueprint and then was was able to put it into actual to create that and that created the beat and then they did that for 800 years. They created that beat. Once the beat was already running that was taken out the physical was removed. uh but the the the spirit of it is nitki. It's there forever. It's the highest it's high vibration. Where's that spirit? It's within us. So now what's happening is that we need to activate and now we need to project each and every one each and every one of us is a spark or a letter. So I'm putting in an olive, you putting in a lit and before you know it, if you have if you sit in by fab and he's sitting in in a in a circle of people that are like-minded breathing or whatever work they're doing eating healthy, the conversation is different. So now it's already it's a little now there's a tiff from my one letter it became a 10 a 10 letters it makes sense already it you can read you can make something out of it I can already understand how to implement this into my in my home into my kids that's and that is the that is the the the third maker it's going to be what we are projecting it >> and it's it's up to each and it's not going to be like going out of mat it was mass production this is everybody is has to be a gilut so we can go into the gil kuli So that's the that's that's the we're changing the diet key. So we're going to change the dream by changing the dream. I'm going to change my heart is operating differently. I'm I'm I'm able to instead of feeling uh resentment, instead of feeling anger, um I'm feeling compassion because I'm eating healthier and I'm calmer. The the oasis are different. It's a different serif. My brain starts thinking differently. If my brain thinks differently, my heart feels different. If my heart feels different, my brain feels different. And because I'm in alignment, I don't get stuck in the struggle. I don't get stuck in the message. >> I want to express. That kid wants to express something. He's sitting and he's playing. He's trying to say something, but he can't. The the file is corrupted. Why? Everything has to go down the neck. The neck is the das. The das is my presence, my awareness. >> If my das is if I'm disconnected from my das, I can't I have a message. I have a great idea here. like a lot of people that go through that uh psychedelic experience or the breathing. >> He sees the image and he sees it and he's in fantasy in La La Land. But then when he comes back after a few times like it's just it's just a dream like cuz I can't implement it. >> You can't implement what you're seeing is real. It's it's a somebody dreamt of the B. It's somebody's dream. It's it's a dream. >> The labra had a dream. It was a vision. It was a visionary. There was a vision. There's a vision here. Now I need to when I come down the neck the file gets corrupted because I'm disconnected and I need to be more present. How do I get more present? I got to change my diet. If I change my diet I'm going to change my feelings. When I change my feelings I'm tapping into the ru I'm tapping into the spirit. So the whole mechanism is a different mechanism. And now her immunization back at him this by by the vaccines and co they said not everybody has to get vaccinated. It's going to be her immunization. >> If we can dump down enough people >> then the rest will just have to follow. Okay. >> Right. So the same thing is if we can activate enough people the rest will just follow. >> In Yiddish food is spirit is a spiritual thing you make on food. It's not just opening up a potato chip bag. >> Yes. Our is is food is how much how much emphasis is there on food on the I mean our whole essence is about the food. >> It's all about the food. But in instead of the kosher diet, the Toyota gave us a manual for these very complex brains. These little delicate brains that are able to that is leading in technology, leading in in in little kids learning little words to and >> they gave us a specific manual what you need to eat. This is your diet. This is what you diet. So what we did is now we're taking that cashers and we're making every chemical putting a kosher symbol on it instead of that's not the way it's supposed to be but uh the money that's what it is but also let's go deeper it's not just money it's we're it's part of our our bidder that we need to do >> we need to be mad in spite of all that we're we're shining and we're doing what we have to do >> but now it's time I think we're we're we've >> it's the awareness which is very important >> talking about it and uh becoming aware >> yes it once It's it's it's it's amazing that uh once there's awareness um I have um I've been doing this my diet for for many years. Um but um people that were they can eat anything but once they get into this they become aware. >> It's like I'm eating like pizza and it's heavy. I can't eat it anymore. It's like >> that's what awareness does. >> Beautiful. Amazing. >> You know I'm getting older like my my stomach can handle anymore. It could but you just became aware. >> You're more mindful. You're not sleeping anymore. You're not in the lower vibration. You're in the higher space. >> Yeah. You're doing a lot of beautiful things. And one of one of one of the things which is also you're very much in touch with you're not living on the surface. And one of the things that you're doing is you're doing music. You're doing kumzits and fabangans. Is it a is it kumzangan the same thing or no? >> It's not two different things. >> Two different things. >> Kumzit is singing and fabbrangan is getting your mind and and understanding um his veness. >> It's not a kumitz. No, it's not kumitz is >> com is come as you are and and and uh >> but you do get into a vibe of uh also letting go of connecting of uh opening up >> if I bring in if I bring in is a place where you got to come prepared it's a workshop >> um it's um you know I used to run a more tight and there was more there was uh used to you know had people would come uh have ADD I can do only 15 minutes would you be assaulted if I leave? I'm like, no problem. You can go anytime you want. And they would end up sitting for 5 hours. >> 5 hours. I mean, I can see these people, they sit for hours and hours on the chair. Time flies. Nobody looks at the watch. >> Right. But but but over there in by in a kumitz, it's it's where everybody sings by everybody is sitting. They're sitting and they're being, you know, um >> they're present >> bring Exactly. Teaching presence, mindfulness, and um by words and also by music. at Fabbr and you singing also because there's you know they don't they sing that was into singing >> there was big yeah >> very much big >> music is music is is the highest >> because yeah so he used to sit and give and talk but there was also singing going on >> there was a lot there's a lot of singing >> there was singing yes he he talked a lot we can get into that too what he was doing it was talking but he was it's not for now but it's uh >> yeah it could be a separate podcast for itself >> yeah I mean he was he was he was changing the energy in the world. He was just dropping buckets of oius letters that you know no matter what they threw at him he was just talking just moving it moving it >> now in kumzit says do you see that people let their armors down do you see that when you get together >> saying the stuff that I do >> yeah yeah >> yeah sure what do you mean people go into deep process I I I mainly focus on on the potential it's not so much in in the struggle we want to focus on the potential um the struggle if you talk about what I've seen in this is um I've seen that 99% is talk they talk about the light they don't pay attention on the on the dark and and I like that and and because what what I saw in my own journey is um you're sitting there trying to figure out that that embarrassing moment you're trying to figure out that I could have responded that way and I didn't or that person called didn't call >> and I'm like I'm almost there I'm almost there and you're almost there only to go back to where you start. It's the snake, you know, the snake, the head and the tail is right there and then before and then the tail is on on the other end, >> right? >> Um when I focus on the light, when I focus on the potential, >> um then I don't need the the the other stuff is irrelevant. But we're not always ready to let go of the of the of the twist spin yet because I'm right there. I don't want to let go of it yet. Like I want to hold on to it. So you need to be facilitated to to allow to get you out from the snake's grip, right? You know, that's the clipper to get you out of the spin. The food, if you eat the the the low garbage food, you're going to be spinning there longer. >> You're going to be when it comes to songs, songs carried Eden for generations, you know, in in in in the in the hottest times. Uh they were like, you know, pain and joy and and every hope was was something. What does that do to your nish? You're obviously very connected to these uh music and singing. >> So what happens is that the the the nagginina everything is energy, everything is vibration. Like we we also live in an ocean just like the fish live in the water. We live in a water tour. Just a different type of tank. It's an oxygen tank. Uh if you if we if you leave the atmosphere um you dissolve like we're made out of ish offer fire uh spirit and and and and earth and and water but it's held together by compressed it's in compression but with with with by gravity. If you leave the space we just you dissolve um then then so now we're here we're stuck and there's layers. So we can get through certain things by with with food. Uh we can that with talk. Um exercise is very important. I'm a big fan of exercise because it raises your vibration. >> You exercise every day. >> I do something every day. You know, I try to do something. If it's if it's uh yoga or if it's uh you know um >> different things that that that I do. Um >> but yes, you got you want to move. You want to you want to you want to raise the uh sweat sweat lodge. You want to try to move. Why? What you're doing is you're raising the vibration. When I'm raising the vibration, I'm now sending out a higher vi a higher vibration. I penetrate the lower vibration. I make contact with the higher vibration. And now I can I'm in relationship with that. >> So what does negin do? >> Nina takes you to the highest place. Neggin is next to the highest place. >> Neggin uh it melts away. It's the highest vibration. It takes you into that place like right away automatically. You don't have to. It's the easiest way to get there at sometime when when you're in that if that's the if that's the medicine you need everything is a medicine >> right so how do you describe that feeling the feeling of uh you're being you belong you feel what is what is that deep feeling when you're really into it um into singing beyond beyond beyond words um it's it's higher than words it's beyond Um, it just you are >> you just >> you can be yourself. >> You you are going depending on how deep you go with it and and how much you drink, how much you had or whatever whatever it is that you do to get you there. Um, it takes you to that place where you're feeling you're making contact with with oneness. When I'm in a relationship like even in a breathing, what I'm doing what you want to do is you want to make contact even for one second. Right? So this is this is my highest potential and this is me down here. There's something here. There's the the female here that's searching that's looking for that that's yearning. You want you do this, you do that. But once you breathe breathe, you make contact one. You're opening up one cav and you make contact the beep. It's aligned and then you're coming back to yourself that starts now it's a seed that's that's that's that's that goes inside of you and it starts expanding and it expands expands and some you have to go back again for another one depending on how if your diet is good and if your mind is good and if your support is good warm breathing can take you uh to the next step you know >> um and that's what nginina does nina is another way of allowing you to um you know they said that uh you know they play songs some of the The sadikum don't they don't want to go into ganed um because because till there's goula so they play >> they get distracted >> they play a song for them. >> Yeah. So to get distracted >> yeah this nama just get pulsed to it. >> Which song talks to you the most like your kumzit song? Which one which one which song do you get lost in? >> I I mainly play my own stuff >> that you uh that you write yourself. >> Yes. >> Oh yeah. Like give me an example of uh you write you when when you have time like is there a certain place at time in the house where you write? >> Yeah. They just they just come they can come anytime they can come uh >> and you record it right away when >> they can come you know usually if I don't hold the guitar in the hand then it's lost you know even if I even if I put it into to recorder. >> So you actually produce your own stuff. >> Yes. >> Now what kind of words is it? Yiddish. Is it uh >> lush kurdes? Give me one good one that >> I have. Va is I have I have pretty much I I try to use easy words because when I when I I sometimes forget the words when I'm when I'm in the process. So I use words that I that I know. >> This is a talent that you always had like in the family or No, >> my my father's a cousin. >> Um you know, but I wasn't it wasn't accessible to me when I grew up. >> So you make your own songs and you sing your own songs. That's why it's unique is that is that how many of these kumzes do you have on a steady basis like >> um I used to have they used to be like I used to have weekly for a couple years I did them weekly there was a year every week they went for hours yeah >> but you coming to you're going places also people >> I come to a lot there are people shabases and >> yes um I do yeah I had the last one we had was uh utasis we had one before so you know I always have one of the cover they host it >> right >> and uh we come we get together. And uh >> how long does that last? >> Um for me, I can go last time we went from we started at 9:00 and we went till 3 4 5 a.m. >> Wow. >> You know, I think we shut off the recorder at 3. >> Wow. So, what's interesting is that you make your own stuff. You make your own niggin own words. >> Yes. >> And you do your own thing. >> So, ultimately I I want to Yeah. I have words but I I didn't get I didn't evolve in yet to enough to uh >> you sing about you sing the kabad just the tune just the >> I I sing with words >> with no words but kabad has a lot of uh you know those uh >> without words >> there are some without words but I like the words they carry the song they're called in in in it's called the horses the susim >> and uh it's it's car a song without words is one thing but with words it goes much deeper but sometimes I sometimes a song comes it comes together with the you know, it's it's together. Sometimes there's a tune and then later it gets developed. >> Um, so, um, >> which which songs did you grow up on? >> Like something from your father or whatever you love. >> I I was never it was never really I wanted something it was never really connecting uh the the the stuff out there. >> It was I wanted something a little more >> something different. >> I was into the guitar into the you know to the the rhythm. This was >> Are you a cousin also like a batilla like your father? >> Not really. I wasn't really encouraged to do that. >> You never developed it. >> I never developed it and it was always growing up there was a lot of um awareness about the lack of um of perfection of the other. So there's a lot of that humor going around. So So for me to go out there and start singing was a big of a to overcome that. >> Wow. Um, I never really put anything out there professionally recorded, but I'm working on that now. It's a whole different level to I do live, which is I do my own thing, but when you go into a studio, it becomes more I'm learning a lot. It's a whole new evolution for me that learning about to be be in a rhythm to stay to stay on a on one path. >> It's interesting. Everything you do is is in is in healing, is in feeling, is you're not living life um just on the surface. You see things you you when you see when you walk out on the street in the city, you look at things from a different lens. You everything is is is energy and everything is meant to be. It's a it's a different way of living and you're happy now. This is you're in a happy place right now. You can say. Yeah. >> Excellent. Uh final question. Who is your role model? um to uh I'm very I'm very selective with uh I have a very high standard for my role models. Um the um on my on my journey on my quest I've bumped into many um many many uh mashp and you know all that stuff. Um, so I I then I I met my Reb, the L of Reb, which that that light showed me what truth is, what the EMS is. Um, and um, my first and most my my biggest role model is my father. >> My father is a is a very simple, powerful. Um he he's a man that gets up u every night 2:30 in the morning and he goes to learn to um and that is ingrained in the DNA that is a part of something that's there that's something that is and and ultimately what I saw the way the reason I was able to survive my uh my journey uh going through uh where I come from and where I headed to because the the truth was what's was important to him. It was an ishmas. There was no monkey business. There was no tanas. there is no uh movement. There's just the truth. Uh and that's what I took with me and and and that was what my soul needed. That's why I chose I guess my in chose to be there. Um so he is he's my my number one. Um he's that that's what's with me. Very very powerful, very strong. Um that's number one. We're on two different journeys. He's but but I I I still uh you know very much learn with him and and take from him whatever I can. And then I found in in in Kabad I found a few very few um true that was that show themselves that I saw which is the truth. That's what's important. It's not uh it's not the lavush. It's not what you look like on the outside. It's it's what's going on on the inside. It's um as they say in in all the madrum there's a big sign in you're not going to see that because we carry that in the heart. Um, it's about when I walk on the street, I don't throw my garbage on the street. When I when I, you know, it's about always being uh in that space of carrying yourself as like a which is striving to be aided. I'm not there yet. I'm I'm trying. Um, that's those are my role models. The truth, the emis is what prevails. That's ultimately where where it's at. Moa, I want to thank you for bringing your color. I want to thank you for bringing your breath, your depth and your humanity into this space. This wasn't a conversation. This was an experience >> and I really want to thank you for coming and sharing your wisdom. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank you very much. >> Thank you, Joe, for uh taking me into the struggle. >> Yeah. >> And it's a journey. It's everybody's journey and we all want to get out of it. >> If I would to infiltrate the struggle and bring uh bring the the the eye of the storm in the center of it. >> Yeah. Thank you. Thank you very much. Stinker brother.