The $1 Idea That’s Changing Lives Worldwide - Jonathan Donath- S2-Ep10

We're now giving out over $8 million a year. In fact, in your parking lot right outside, just before I walked in, I gave to $22,276 to Yahalom. >> So, let's explain first what daily giving is. >> Being very vulnerable, it was it was very hard. It was hard for me to give. It wasn't easy because I I didn't have anyone saving up for my retirement account or putting money away from my kids' college fund. Someone offered me a million dollars for 1% of my scar. >> Yeah. >> I was like, "Thank you." But no, thank you. There's a woman, I don't think she's from actually, um, from from Miami. She she called us and said, "I have $29,000, you know, 10% that I want to give. I don't know who to give to, but I trust you." Until very recently, I mean, really, in like the last year, I was never happy. >> Wow. >> I I just constantly was disappointed like, why why aren't we growing? Why aren't we getting more? Why aren't we getting more? I don't understand. I've always struggled with stuck cuz I always felt like, what's my $18, $36 check? That's all I could afford. What what is what kind of impact am I really having? So I felt this conflict like I don't feel good about the little I'm able to give and he said for the first time in my life with daily giving I feel like I'm a big ve >> people hold on to their money >> like for their dear life does money make you happy >> okay today uh we are honored to welcome um someone who has dedicated his life to making a real difference and other people's lives. His name is Jonathan Donette. Uh he's the founder of an organization called Daily Giving. Um Jonathan had a powerful vision. Um he had a vision of countless people coming together and touch each other's lives. It is a beautiful thing. Welcome Jonathan to the Struggle Podcast. >> Thank you for having me. >> Excellent. Thank you so much for coming in. Um let's start with first who is Jonathan? Who are you? Where are you from? Uh and what do you do? >> Sure. Um I like to think that I'm the Nev Hashem. >> Okay. >> That uh that comes first. >> Excellent. >> That's who I am. Um I grew up in Minneapolis, Minnesota. >> Okay. >> Um I've lived in New York for the last 25 years. Uh going just to take a step back in Minneapolis growing up um it was just a wonderful you know a wonderful little town St. Louis Park they nicknamed St. Jewish Park >> um you know 4 500 from families and went to a Jewish day school my father's been a prof was a professor at University of Minnesota since 1978. He just retired this past May and my parents still live in Minnesota. Uh, and it was a great it was a great upbringing going to tour academy and then um there was no Jewish high school at the time for for boys in Minneapolis. So I went to Skoi uh Skoi in Chicago for four years. Uh after that I I spent a year and a half in Israel in Maserat. And uh then I went to YU. >> Mhm. >> And after YU I became a chiropractor. Did four years of chiropractic school and I started my own practice about 19 years ago and it was in private practice. And uh that's what I did until, you know, this this idea, this epiphany came to me and I'm still working as a chiropractor full-time, but uh I also run Daily Giving full-time. >> Wow. Excellent. Where is this uh chiropractor office? >> It's in White Plains, New York, about 30 minutes from here, >> right? Yeah. >> Okay. Excellent. So, this is what you do in your private life. Now, we want to know the story of what inspired you. Uh what's the story behind the daily giving? >> Sure. Um, you know, I I actually always felt blessed that I knew what my topic was. I was a chiropractor and I treat people in very serious pain, uh, chronic pain, mostly neck and back pain, but also headaches and other various, you know, migraines and other things. And I just felt so blessed to be able to heal people and and be a be, you know, really a clea that Hashem gave me this skill to help people get out of pain. And and I would say 90% of my patients were not even Jewish. Mhm. >> And I felt like I got to make a kit hashem every day. Uh so many times people told me, you know, I was only Jew they ever knew. >> Um and so I took that very seriously in how I acted and and and um when I got people better, I knew that these these patients would would always remember when something comes on the news or something else about an Orthodox Jew, they would they would probably picture me. >> Um and it's very it was very special. In fact, my wife and I had always wanted to make aliyah. But one of the reasons that pulled me back from making aliyah is that in if I made aliyah all my patients would be from or Jewish you know and and I wouldn't be able to get to to make that impact. So it was really like a strong thing that I I really love making a keshm um and then about seven years ago I um one of my friends re recommended me this YouTube video about a RV who had a basically a near-death experience. I had never heard of him and I turned it on and it was a two-hour YouTube video. I'd like to send it to you. It's really incredible. If you want to post it, you can. >> His name is Rabbi Alon Anava. >> And Rabbi Anava, he said, "I used to," he's like, "I wasn't just a secular Jew. I I dK cheeseburgers on Yum Kipper." >> He said, "I he and I heard another story that he would actually barbecue pork." He lived in Israel, like northern Israel, and he would barbecue pork and he would waft the smell to his neighbors. That that's the kind of person he was. And he overdosed on drugs and he died. And this this two-hour video describes in the most vivid great detail his afterlife experience. And he obviously did come back to life. And um it it really shook me to the core the whole thing. But at one point he discussed how he felt like he was in this black abyss of pain and suffering what felt like two billion years. >> Mhm. >> And it was just forever. And the message or whatever he described he got was that you don't have a single mitzvah to elevate you to the next level. You're stuck because you just weren't good. You didn't do any mitzvah. >> And it was it was very powerful. And I remember walking I literally finished it was a two-hour videos and I probably watched 20 minutes here, 10 minutes here. And I and I remember finishing it and walking to my local Marvin in White Plains, New York, 30 minutes from here. And uh and I put a dollar in stocks that night like we've all done so many times in our lives. And and I just had this epiphany right when I put the dollar in, I've never had an epiphany before. I've never had one since. But it was like this deep knowing that this idea I just had was something like I thought I had a billion dollar idea. And that was that no matter how much sodaka I give, I still get a mitzvah for this $1. And it must I know it's because of the podcast I just listened to. I was like, how can I guarantee myself this mitzvah sodaka every single day no matter what? Meaning that $1 I just put in is a mitzvah. Whether I give a $10,000 check or a dollar, it's a mitzvah, >> of course. So we don't know what what's going to put the scale over the edge. So I was like, how can I guarantee myself this m of stuck every single day? I want to be a giver every single day no matter what. I remember as a child my mother always giving me a penny or nickel to give in Torah Academy and put in the pushka. It's like there's so many things we do in Judaism that we're supposed to every day. And we are supposed to give stuck, but it doesn't there's never I've never heard of something that says like mafar like give sodaka every single day no matter what. And so I remember being so I was like just I couldn't even concentrate during I remember being so excited by this idea and I ran home. I started googling daily sodaka giving or whatever and I I could not find anything where someone was purposely trying to automate daily stuck giving. Now every organization in the world you could sign up for $30 a month. They'll take your money for $30 a month. But >> but purposely I wanted there to be a different mitzvah every single day. And um I called up my website guy show and I told him idea and I had never heard of alone on a vine. He had heard of him so I was like well that was already like another sign. He's like wow yeah of course he's amazing and I told him I loved it and I said can you build me a website? He said sure. And then the next idea I had was cuz I listen to Torah anytime a lot. I was like wow if I could get Rabbi Pesak Cron to speak about daily giving the way he speaks about Torah anytime we could blow this up internationally. >> And so I got Rabbi Cronhn's number. I never spoken to him before. And I remember him picking up the phone and hearing the voice of Torah anytime come on the line. I remember my heart beating out of my chest and I told Reb Cone the idea and he says this is a great idea. He says, "Are you sure no one's doing this?" I said, "Rebby, no one's doing this." So he said, "Okay, I think you need to you need to come up with the rabbitical council of people that people have heard of that people trust so that people know that the money you're collecting is not going to your kids's college fund, >> right?" >> And I thought, you know, that's a really smart idea. And so um I called really my next three calls were till this day the four people on the rebal council Rabbi Rabbi >> Cron uh rehearsal >> um Rabb Raosha >> Tuif >> and uh Rash Greenberg who's my RV in White Plains and um they've been instrumental it's been great and so I actually just spoke to him all them this week because we are uh we had 700 applications since the last time we've added new organizations and it's become like a whole subdivision of of our organization of look people we're giving out over $8 million a year now. >> So let's explain first what daily giving is. >> Sure. Sure. >> Explain it with a dollar what you're doing. >> So we what we did is we automated this platform to try to get Jews all over the world to give $1 of sedaka together every single day. >> Day you sign up and it's $1 a day. >> Correct. We can't hit your credit card every day because then it would be 30 cents of the dollar would go to the credit card fees. So we give you a monthly option or an annual option. I'm your Shalia. Every single day we give I give your money for you on your behalf. In fact, in your parking lot right outside just before I walked in, I gave to we gave today $22,276 to Yahalom. >> Um, which is an incredible organization. Maybe I'll tell you what it is just so you know. Yahalom is an organization that helps doesn't just help special families with with children with special needs. It's they help when someone when someone finds out they have that when they have a special needs child, they don't know where to begin. Yahalom is an organization that helps them with just kind of how to how to how to start dealing with from A to Z, what organizations, what sub other sub organizations they could get help from, what grants they can get from, you know, all these different things. And it's an unbelievable organization. And one of the things people love about Daily Giving is not just the money we're giving out, but they learn because we send an email every single day to all our daily givers where the money goes that day. It's completely transparent. We send them with a video of what the organization does, a link to the organization >> and people tell us how they love love love finding out. I mean most half the organizations they've heard of and the other half they're like wow >> they didn't even they're like this is >> unbelievable. So let me let me tell you what I hear what you did is um what the organization is is you go to sh someone comes to you give them a dollar you don't know if it makes it makes a difference. Every little dollar makes a difference. But it's like it's a what you did is you created something that an entire community I mean how much money are you giving out a day >> today? 22,200 >> $22,000 a day. >> Yeah. >> Which means that from just from single dollars from from small donations that people are giving daily you know for you know for a fact there's a dollar going to Tuzuka. It is a different feeling when you when you know your dollar makes a difference. It became $22,000 for any organization. We're all, you know, we're all Eden, you know, and it is different than just giving a dollar in SH. It's just the impact that that has. So, in a year, how much are you giving out in a year? >> We're now giving out over $8 million a year >> just from the single dollars that people and people don't know you, you don't know them, they don't know the organization. Nobody knows >> the highest level of sudaka. >> It's unbelievable stuff. >> People people give not necessarily well they can see on our website who we give to but they don't know the individuals who are getting. >> It's crazy. >> And the people getting don't know you know they know it's comfort giving but they don't know where it's coming from. >> It is genius. >> And and uh I will tell you that um I was in Israel just a couple months ago and I visited one of the organizations bot melik that we give to >> and at the time this is a maybe a year ago we were giving $15,000 a day at the time and I showed so bot melik is an organization that helps women who suffer from domestic violence. They have safe houses for for women >> um in different parts of Israel. And I I sat down with a woman who was in the safe house and I showed her the email that day that Bot Melik had gotten 15,000 whatever dollars. And she starts crying. And after she composed herself, I asked her what made her so emotional and she said, "You know, I have such a toll for what they've done to me. And I know that it's expensive what they do. and and and of course I want them to get funding and I'm so happy that they're getting funding from you. But to me, she said the fact that there are over 15,000 Jews that know about us. >> Yeah. >> She started crying. She was like, "Well, I just the support she felt that she was getting um you know, it was it's there's so many different aspects and and I I will tell you that, you know, even we're giving out over $8 million um a year. We don't take a penny. 100 cents of every dollar goes to Sodaka. It doesn't mean don't have an overhead. We do have overhead. >> I just fund raise that overhead myself. So meaning not I'm not paying for it. I used to with my friends but but now that it's grown there there are people that love our mission. They understand that >> how many how many people sit in the office? What's what's the >> we don't have we don't have an office. >> Okay. >> I'm still a full-time chiropractor. >> I have four full-time staff. Four five part-time staff. Uh our COO lives in Cleveland, Ohio. Rab Frieder. He's unbelievable. You know, our director of marketing lives in Las Vegas. >> Uh we have a bunch of we our CFO lives in Tene. We have people from different places >> and and and everyone everyone loves working for us. Everyone loves being a part of it and um it's really I I really think that why because I had about 15 different heads of organizations told me said Jonathan when you first called us and told us your idea we're like kind of giggled to ourselves okay we'll take your free money we'll take your $10 check or $40 check but this is going to be an epic fail >> right >> they said it's the oldest trick in the book every organization knows that if you get $30 a month from every donor that'd be millions of dollars we pay for our whole budget >> and we said we've all tried and we all failed so we thought you were going to fail >> and the reason I think two reasons why I and it get took off. Number one is the akas. I think Hashem loves unity more than anything else. What more could he want than all of his children coming together every single day to give to our brothers and sisters who are less fortunate. >> It's like all kinds of Jews, >> right? Everybody. >> Nothing makes me happier. I go all over the world and I travel. I talk to people and I've yesterday in my office I had a patient. He is he's he he's married to a non-Jewish woman. He has non-Jewish kids. He knows nothing from nothing. And I I actually we have this really big opportunity for a camp marketing campaign. and I have to f I have to fundra the whole thing myself. And I told him about the idea. Just this happened last night and no one knows. I guess now everyone's going to know. >> But um I told him about it and he said, "What do you need?" And I said, "The campaign's going to cost $116,000." I don't know what he was going to say. He says, "I'll give you $25,000." >> I told him I said I said I I explained to him what Olmhaba was. I said I said I said his name's David. I said, "David, I'm going to drag you into Olmhaba." And I explained what it was. And he says he says he says we believe Jews we believe in heaven. >> We believe in he's like he didn't know to give you an idea like what so we have secular Jews. He's been signed up for daily living giving for almost seven years now. Right. So, so we have secular Jews and I've been I've been in in you know, you know, I I've been at a project in Spyro Shabaton where where you know have come up to me and show me show me on their on their on their you know on their on their they don't have smartphones and showing me their you know their how they have the daily email and with the biggest smile they love being a part of it. One time I had um aided guy from Brooklyn call me. It was after October 7th. We started an Israel emergency fund. We we we we got over $600,000 within, you know, months in for the Israel just an extra fund for for for Israeli organizations. And he said, you know, I've never given I've never given a dollar to to anything, you know, Israeli art. We don't give to Israel army, but we give to organizations that help, you know, soldiers with PTSD and other things like that. And he says, I can't tell you how happy it makes me that I'm giving to a dollar a day for you guys and it's going to all these different organizations. So it's like uh if a person doesn't know where should I give sadda or uh who am I I I'm giving I'm not giving you give it over there and these people distribute the the money evenly whatever whatever they decide whatever who makes the decisions which organization goes where but you know that saduka is your thing >> and we do serious due diligence okay we had 700 applications like just get idea like we we we made everyone reapply again when we were smaller we didn't didn't do as serious we went back we took seven organizations off quietly, not for anything, whatever. Just we want we want people take people call us every year say we have more Meister money who should we give to >> they look at you know I had an anesthesiologist a woman I don't think she's from actually um from from Miami she she called us and said I have $29,000 of of my of my my you know 10% that I want to give. I don't know who to give to but I trust you. She gave a check for $29,000. >> Right. So >> that's that's what we're doing. We want to be, you know, we want to be the place where people go, okay, I don't, if I, if you don't know, if you don't have a go, if you're not giving millions of dollars of your own, do your own research, that people say, okay, daily giving is a trusted name to to give to the best organizations in the world. >> Wow. It's like it's amazing stuff. Um, growing up, when you grew up as a child, the way you described before, did you see this um a lot of giving and charity? Did you there was saduka in your life that triggered something like this or no? It's a great question and I would say that actually Yol Gold did a video about my >> Zadei. >> It's a really wonderful video. I have to send it to you. Um my Zade all four of my grandparents are Holocaust survivors. >> Yeah. >> And um my Zadei people think my Zadei was a ladnik. He was a he was a shul he was a shamas of a shul in Cambridge, Massachusetts for over 50 years. >> He was Macar of hundreds of people. And um so Rabbi Gold did this video about him and his his I always felt that his mitzvah was obvious. He loved all Jews. It didn't that's where I think I get my obviously Israel from. He just loved every Jew and um but he was very poor, very very very poor. I remember my mother saying that if the school said you need to bring three pencils in, he'd say, "I'm so sorry, but we can only afford one." And I found this out after I started. I knew they were poor, but I didn't know how important giving saddaka daily was for him. But the the story of a gold told is that there was a there was a saddaka box a life insurance salesman came to my zades house one day >> and he gave him as as a as a gift for listening to a spiel about the life insurance. He gave him this this beautiful little coin counter >> that you put in any coin and you click the lever and it counts how how much is in it. >> Mhm. >> And he used that as his personal stuckle box. And every single day when my my mother or two sisters came home from school, they would fight over who got to give the coin. every single day. And so Rabi Gold did this video about this about my Zadian of giving. He was he was he was the ultimate giver. >> Um and so how how how really without even knowing sort of passed in through the DNA of my mother did she did always give me a penny or nickel to give in school. But right >> um if I'm being completely honest, I have my own business. My wife doesn't work out of the house. I don't make a ton of money. I make enough. I never you know but like you know I don't have tell you how expensive life is sending our kids to these schools and it was unbelievable tuitions >> and it was very difficult because I always paid full tuition and I gave to my schul and I gave to my school and I gave to camp pass where I was kind like I gave you know I gave but you know I I I'm just I'm just being very vulnerable. It was it was very hard. It was hard for me to give. It wasn't easy >> because I I didn't have anyone saving up for my retirement account or putting money away for my kids college fund. Right? >> And what I've seen over the last seven years and and this is what the round bomb says, right? If you can have $100 and you're going to give to one person $100 or a dollar to 100 different people, you give a dollar to 100 different people. Why? Obviously, the impact you think it's not as much, but what it does is giving is a muscle. And the more you give and the more you become a giver, the more you become a giver. >> Wow. And I've seen from my own over the last seven years, this is just personally. I give now every single time I get money, I put 10% straight into a donor advice fund. It's not my money. It's Hashem's money. And and you realize once you put money away for Stuckco, you give such so much more freely also. And I feel like now looking back like, wow, I really wasn't a giver. I thought I was. >> I thought I was, but not to the level I, you know, I am now. And I and I just see the br has just come and come and come. I I know you know the more you give the more you get. And um and not not you shouldn't do it because you think you're going to get right but when you give when you became you become a giver and I think that Hashem put us in this world that the greatest thing we could do like it's in our DNA to give. Hashem put us in the world we to be a light. >> Right. >> Right. What is being a light is to give. >> Right. >> It's in our DNA to to to procreate and have children. And that's giving. Yeah. >> Right. It's literally in the species. It's like it's it's hardwired in. >> It's like emulating Hashem. Hashem is a giver. And what we have to do is do be a giver. >> There there's a trillion things that have to go right every single second for us to say one word or for me to move my thumb. A trillion. I know the the anatomy behind it. Right. >> He's he's gives us more than we could possibly give. The way we can emulate Hashem more than anything is giving. >> Of course. >> And the way we can feel aligned with our truest, greatest, highest essence is giving. >> Right. And I always wondered the last seven years as we've grown this thing, why is it so hard? People say to me all I'm like, did you ever in a million years think you'd have 20,000 people giving a dollar? I was like, I thought we'd had 20,000 the first three months, right? >> I was so naive, right? But it is so hard. I remember Wall used to say all the time, Jonathan, why do we only have 5,000? We only have 10,000. We should have 100,000. Everyone loves this. >> But there's a Yates because because it's it is so hard for most of us to give. I mean, for the time people even hear this, they're going to be like everyone's like, "Wow, that's a great idea. Why don't I sign up? And then it's like squirrel, >> right? >> And then it's like, well, I give to my show and I give it to my school and I already gift it. Yeah, but this dollar a day becoming a giver every day, there is nothing like it. What what it'll do for you is >> the feeling the feeling is unbelievable. But you're talking about the challenges of giving. What is really why are people uh it is for some people you know everyone gives soduka but some people have such a hard time >> to give you know they want their heart tells them I got to give I want to give >> they think twice the connection that the that people have with this money that they can't let go of this >> and I guess that's why the mitzvah is even bigger because there's such an attachment you worked so hard for it your blood it's your sweat >> you give it away from yourself but why are people So because it's hard to get I imagine. What is the what? >> Yeah. I'll tell I'll tell you what I think. >> Yeah. >> I think that it is the cheat it is one of the cheat codes to having a happy meaningful life. >> Just like just like a muna, >> right? If if you have a muna, >> life is so much better. >> Right? >> If if you knew with a 100% certainty like with 100 not not 90% with a 100% certainty that Hashem was Hashem, >> you're a free man. >> There's no there's then then we can't get there's no scar. We can't we can't be rewarded because it's too easy. Right? At the end of the day, we have a muna and we have to work for our ama. We have to work on our every day >> and then it gets better and better and better. Right? >> Right. But there people just can't believe they just don't we all have friends like just don't believe right >> and I think sedaka being a giver the fre like when you give it literally is a vibr it puts you into a vibrational frequency of being a giver >> right >> and then every day when you choose again to give you having a bad you have a bad day and like a friend calls you and like you like didn't have time but like you decide you know he needs me and then you spend time with them and you and you just change their mood or you change you really help them you just like how it makes you feel doesn't have to be money >> right >> could be time it could be smile. It could be a compliment. It could go be visiting someone who's sick, right? But when you give, it changes your whole day, >> right? >> And so I think that the Yates of Heart is so strong because the the the positive aspect of what it does for you, the giving is so high that it's like Hashem had to make it hard for us because if not like >> now I I see that you have a passion even before you said you were talking about you you grew up and and and you loved life and you loved Yiddish. Where do you credit this? So who do you credit for uh putting that into you this amuna? Where did you find that? >> Yeah. Um I think my my Zadei had a massive influence on me. My Zadei um he left me uh I remember he when he he died when he was like 92. When he was 90, he gave me a McGill. >> Mhm. >> That was given to him by a 90-year-old man in his sh that got it from his grandfather. They got it from his grandfather. And he said, "My children, my grandchildren aren't from anymore. Why don't you give it to your oldest grandchild? I didn't know that till later, but he actually I'm the second oldest grandchild and he had offered it to my first cousin Schlommo and Schlommo was in medical school at the time and he said, "Why don't you give it to Jonathan? I I I'm not going have time to learn how to how to lean it. It's to this day it's my most prized possession. Is this McGill that I lay on PM every year from it?" >> Um and and I think my you know my parents my parents are just tremendous role models for me. They they they're they're they're real givers themselves of their time of you know my my dad was always on different boards of everything and and >> Yiddish was very important for them like >> Exactly. You know people >> um it was modeled in my home. It was modeling my home and and and my parents didn't you know we were when I'm from from birth and um you know we went to schul and you know all the all I had all the opportunities that I could have but that doesn't necessarily mean anything right but but the they modeled that put us in from camps and just >> you know I don't know right like some people haven't I just been blessed >> I feel like that rewarded you with this with this gift that you can be the one who was ach to do this thing because you were innocently doing your thing as a, you know, as a group, you know, you gave your to and stuff like that. All of a sudden, >> this is this is not the everyday for a person to come up with this light bulb and then be successful with this. There's millions of people fundraising outside >> and there's millions of organizations and there's everybody's trying. to see uh this idea to work out that so many people to come together for $1 a day and the enormous amounts of money. This is this is real fulfillment. >> I I I've asked myself that question many times. What did I do to have the privilege? >> Unbelievable. >> And there's no question in my mind. Every time I had that question going back from like day one was my >> zity. Wow. >> And all and really all my grandparents all all my grandparents who survived the Holocaust, right? Like I you know I think about I think about you know when someone says you know uh hashem's always answering your tilas doesn't mean he doesn't say no >> you can ask hashem something and he might the answer might be no but that doesn't mean youras are wasted >> right and someone says you know you don't know what your your one of your grandparents had one day and was domining and like you look all my grandparents lost almost every their parents their siblings all in the holocaust they all almost all perished except for my you know my my bubby one of my bubbies some siblings survived right and So, it's not me. Trust me, if you knew me, it's not me, right? And um I do take it very seriously that it's real, it's a real privilege. And um >> tremendous >> and and it's not just me. Also, there's a whole team, you know, there's a whole team of people. There's a lot of people that that love what we're doing, the philanthropists that that back us that see the see the potential and understand that the over $25.6 million that we've already distributed the that's 25.6 million mitzvah, right? So it's it's kind of the the it's the the gift that keeps on giving. So >> it's unbelievable. >> Do you find people I mean there's all kinds of people in this world >> um that criticize this organization or negative about it? >> Um yeah, look, I I've I I think I'm a little sensitive and I think that it always hurts me when people say something negative, right? >> Um I haven't honestly heard that that much negative. There's misconceptions that people don't really know, >> right? Um but um people say, "Oh, you say you don't have an overhead." I didn't. No, we we have an overhead. We just fundraised. We have two We have two accounts. We have a Seducka account, operations account. There's way more money in the stuck account, right? >> Right. Every month I got to go, "Oh, I got to pay my employees and I got to make sure we have money to do these things." But >> um yeah, it's uh yeah, it does. But everyone who's a daily giver just loves being a part of it. And you know, no matter who you are, you can't you can't make everyone happy for some reason. You know, some people wish they they could choose the sodakas, but that would be just it just honestly just too complicated, >> right? >> And that's hard because you could have one sodaka and we we're very careful who we pick because if you have one sodaka that comes like one day you're giving orphans, the next widows, the next cancer, the next substance abuse, the next mental health, and the next day you give to whatever name fill in the blank and someone's like, I don't want to give to that. Guess what they do? Cancel. >> Mhm. >> You know, so we have to be very careful. We non-political and and just try to pick sodakas that are national and international. So, so if someone signs up for Omaha, Nebraska, then they're not like, "Oh, you're only giving to people in Brooklyn," you know, like. So, >> Right. Right. >> So, it's it's difficult. >> Do people uh love the idea of getting the emails every day? >> People I I actually think that that's one of the it's one of the things that's the secret sauce that we that we stumbled upon, you know, that >> Whose idea was that? >> Um it was my idea to to to do the emails. Um, and what's been interesting is that what's interesting is that when I when I talk to people often and I'm and I go up to random people, I tell them about the giving and I tell them about the email. They're like, "Listen, if you send me an email, I'm not signing up." >> Because we all get inundated with a million emails. But what people don't know, this is different. I have a friend who's a big CEO of a big company. He told me once, he's like, "I get like 10,000 emails a day, but the one email that I always open up is the daily giving email." And it's so funny because people say different things. Some people open the email cuz they want to see who got that day. And some people don't even care who got the day. They just want to see the number cuz it goes up. Thank god every it's I think it hasn't gone up only 3 days in 7 years since we started. >> Um >> it gives them a jolt. >> You know, you're working and you're in the middle of the day and you know what? >> I don't know. There's something about it that you can't explain that you get this uh and you know that >> whatever you do, someone someone got something. Yes. Yes, you made a difference in another person's life which is which is un unbelievable stuff. >> Yeah. Mishbucka magazine did an article about us. Jonathan Rosenloo wrote a really nice article maybe a year, you know, a year and a half ago and it was a beautiful article and hundreds of people signed up for the article and then two weeks later there was a letter to the editor and the letter to the editor said um it was anonymous but it said I've always struggled with stuck because I always felt like what's my $18 $36 check? That's all I could afford. What what is what kind of impact am I really having? So, I felt this conflict like I don't feel good about the little I'm able to give. And he said, "For the first time in my life with daily giving, I feel like I'm a big ve." That's what he said. Yeah. >> He said, "I'm giving $14,000." Now, it's 22,000, but at the time, $14,000 a day, I feel like I'm actually having impact with my money. >> Right. >> And so, >> so when you get up in the morning and you say, "My >> Yes. >> Uh, this this in your head every morning that I'm making a difference in other people's lives. This this is the feeling of that." Describe that feeling. It's um not just Mani but every modem. Before I say modm. >> Yeah. >> Uh yeah. I feel extremely privileged that my tap is to get other other children of Hashem to to become givers. >> It's unbelievable. Unbelievable stuff. Now, do you have any story that uh made such an impact that you stopped and you said, you know what, it was worth it just for this one? >> Yes. Yes. The one that comes to mind um to this day is one of the most impactful stories about daily giving because a gentleman signed up for daily giving for a dollar a day and then a minute later signed up a second time and then a third time and then in five minutes he signed up five different times with five different email addresses and I called him up. This is a couple years ago and I called up and I thanked him >> and I said, "Why did you sign up for five different email addresses?" He says, "I signed up for my whole family. I want to teach my children about Stucka." I said, "That's beautiful. How old are your children?" And he said 1 2 and four. >> Wow. >> And I was like, "Are you serious?" He says, "Yeah." He says, "I already reserved their Gmail addresses and now in 7 8 9 years when I when I give them their password for the first time, they're going to open it up and it's going to only have one email, but that email is going to be repeated thousands of times. It's going to say, "Thank you for your donation for >> every organization." >> And they're going to see that they've been givers their entire lives. >> Wow. >> And I've told that story. Um, look, let's I mean, honestly, I don't want to embarrass you, but you signed up for your whole family, you know, >> and um and it's just it just means so much. It means so much to me because it's what it's all about. It's about teaching. You can give you can give millions of dollars, billions of dollars, but teaching the next generation to become givers is like that's the biggest gift they can give. >> You can't be a better role model. Yeah. you know, and uh and and so it's so touching that um >> you can put your entire family and everybody's name and whatever is for everybody, whatever they need. >> Yeah. >> Uh just a little a little, you know, a dollar >> Yeah. >> for each child or whatever. It's just beautiful for a person to do that. And you know, we throw so much money in the garbage. A breakfast is $20 today. >> Yeah. >> A day. >> Yeah. >> Uh >> yeah, >> we we throw money in the garbage. You know something you said before that I didn't I I wanted to say something I just remembered is that you know people people many people go to minion every day and many people if you live in Muny or Brooklyn like you have a lot of anemium coming all the time you're like people are like I give $10 a day but the truth is that if you think about it Shabas you don't have your wallet on you know we give you we have you covered I always say daily giving should be in addition to not instead of like when I'm still million and I have money on me I give a dollar I don't I don't not give right doesn't change anything but you just know just in You're covered every day. >> Every day something is going out. It's just this this this >> warm feeling. >> Yeah. >> That you know that that it's a beautiful thing. What's your thought on uh the responsibility that you have? You're carrying so much money from people. Yeah. >> You know, it's an a >> Yeah. >> You have a lot of money and people trust you. >> Yeah. >> And uh it puts life in perspective, you know. >> Yeah. Um we take it very seriously. We take it very seriously. You know, if people saw, we don't publicize them, but if you if people saw the reports, the due diligence reports that we go over the different steps we take to make sure that, you know, we're the stewards of hopefully one day it'll be $50 million, $100 million a year. Right now it's $8 million a year, right? >> But people, you know, we want to give to the best organizations and and we take it very very seriously like each I'm just right now because we're getting ready to add new seduckas. >> Yeah. >> Um you know, so we had allocation meeting. It takes it's many steps to get to the allocation committee to even decide. The reports are like six, seven, seven typed up pages each report for each sedaka. You know that the amount of hours that goes into each organization just to get to the point where we decide whether they're going to do it. >> Then the rebbitical council has to approve and the board has to approve. It's it's a it's quite a big it's quite a big operation and um we do the the absolute best we can and we like we love remember I said before there's one there's two reasons why I think we were success successful. One is the unity, >> but two is that no matter how wealthy you are, you can't give to everyone >> and with daily giving you get to give to a diversified portfolio of >> that you would never know. There's organizations that you would never touch. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, have you ever heard of a victor's helping hand? You might have. No. No. So, a Victor's helping hand. >> It's a it's it's a beautiful organization. Um, basically, if someone dies, let's say they don't have life insurance or maybe they have life insurance, but it's not enough or it won't pay for six months. A woman could be left. They don't they can't pay their mortgage, they can't pay the funeral bills. You contact AR's helping hand, you they they give you a form to fill out. They do a little checking to make sure you know whatever >> and then they'll pay your rent for six months. >> They'll they'll if you have or you know someone loses parents in a car accident, they will pay for their weddings. >> Again, someone pays for their entire overhead themselves so that every dollar that people give to them goes out to the the the widows and the and the uh the orphans. That's just one organization. There's, you know, Anila Dodi does, she pays grocery bills straight to the grocerers of of of widows every month. >> There I can go on and on. There's but it's but we have but again we give to orphans and widows and poverty and cancer and subsies and mental health and Torah and Kiru and life-saving and stem. It's just >> But are you looking at the sizes also like what kind of organization you give it to small like mom and pop shop type of organizations also? >> Yes. I mean we we put it in in our giving policy is that we can't what daily giving gives to each organization cannot be more than 15% of their entire budget. We don't want to take that horizon like what happens if >> you know we for some reason we have to take you off like we don't want to like ruin your organization right this is safe you know it's just not safe to be able to be someone's entire budget so we it has to be big enough organization but >> we actually find that we have a bigger impact on small organizations right like we give to lifeline we give to Oel these are huge organizations but but the truth is that on the organizations we're adding now we we're picking smaller ones we can have a bigger impact on >> you know I don't know if you heard of just one they're in Israel but when we started giving giving to them a couple years ago their budget was like $400,000. Now it's over $5 million a year and they're doing unbelievable things. So sometimes we look at as like we could be seed money if we you know >> you know we can't give to like a mom and pop shop but like >> we can give and and really sometimes be also people look at daily giving as a hushka >> right >> you know if we give them people understand like okay they're worthy of money so it's a big deal for organizations that they now can you know help them kind of take their organization to the next level. Wow. Now, where do you see this going, you know, in the ne next couple of years or in the future? Like, what kind of numbers are you projecting? >> Well, please God, after your podcast gets out, you know, we're going to have thousands more daily giversy. Um, >> but the um that first night when I went home and I had the idea, I took out my calculator and I said there there are approximately 14.5 million Jews in the world. And I just said I said, "Okay, if 1% of all Jews give a dollar a day, what would that be?" I'm like, "Okay, that's $145,000 a day, that's $52.5 million a year." >> Wow. >> And I was like, I refuse to believe that we can't get to 1% of all Jews giving a dollar a day. I just I just it might take I didn't think it was going to take this long. I was very naive. >> Um I thought we'd have 100,000 really fast. It's been a struggle to get to 22,000, right? It just um again back to what we said before, it just it's it's hard to get people and now I kind of think it's a nace that we have 22,000. It's a it's really a nace. Um it's just hard to get people to take credit their credit card out of their wallet, but um our biggest are our our raving fans are daily givers. Everyone who gives really loves it and so they tell other people and slowly and slowly we're snowballing and again please God we'll get to that 1% 145,000 Jews in sooner sooner than than than I hope. Now, how would you say that this organization uh changed your life personally? You know, your spirituality or how did you grow from this as a person? >> Wow. Um a lot a lot in very positive ways. You know, I always always felt very connected to Hashem. I always did. But um again, I have so much hakar to um for for the blessings that I've received in my life and um how hard I work to just just do right byem. Just I just want Hashem to be proud of me every day and >> but also the part of first of all the that you that you said before the unity of bringing so many people together because there's so much pain and suffering there's so much here and there >> but what you're doing is you're doing so many things. You're bringing so many people together. >> Yeah. >> And um it it it is just just amazing amazing stuff how it can you know what this thing does. >> Yeah. I you know there there have been different phases of I I've never like I someone someone offered me a million dollars for 1% of my scar. >> Yeah. >> I was like thank you but no thank you. No I wouldn't do it and not there's no amount of money. Right. But you know um I I at times just again your podcast is called struggle so I want to be vulnerable like at times >> even though I would not trade it for anything in the world >> the burden I felt was very high very very high because I felt like Hashem gave this to me for a reason and I think the reason is because I I'm not satisfied I'm not easily h right so some people are like wow this This is amazing. And and I and and to be honest, I I I very often for until very recently, I mean really in like the last year, I was never happy. >> Wow. >> I I just constantly was disappointed. It's like why why aren't we growing? Why aren't we getting more? Why aren't we getting more? I don't understand. >> You looked at it as a business from a business point of view. You're like, listen, I have this idea. It's great. >> Not just business, but it's just like this is so good for you. Like, I'm not doing this for me. like like I go around and and and and tell people and I was so passionate like I'm like again you know I tell people and they're like I know how happy everyone who does is and I know what it's going to do for them and like I and I tell people and then they don't sign up and they don't sign up and it was so hard and I was like felt such a well we when we I raise money to do a campaign and we put out videos and we do this and then we get 100 people sign up 500 people sign up again it's a lot of people it's a lot of but >> you know there's there's there's 14 and a half million Jews I was so frustrated And that was it was it was a heavy burden. I'm not going to lie, it was a heavy burden. >> And only really in the last year as I've learned a little bit more to have more self-compassion and more self-love to realize like that it's really in Hashem's hand. I can only do the >> and I can only bring it to people and give them the opportunity. And >> at the end of the day, I can't, you know, it's really and I think maybe part of the burden was like I I I thought it's because the success we had because of me. Maybe it was my ego. Maybe I thought you >> Yeah. Maybe I was maybe the burden was because I felt like why you know I used to this used to work and why is this why we do you know and and I have to tell you that um self-compassion and self- loveve is the most important thing >> and um it's helped me tremendously. >> What does that mean? You mean to say that you talk to yourself and you tell yourself listen I'm not in control. >> Yeah. >> I'm I'm doing my thing. My heart is in the right place. I mean it do it. I do. It's the ems. I know Hashem knows that my intention is 100%. And then you take a you sit down in the sun and you let Hashem run the show. Let go. >> That's it. That's when you start getting satisfied. >> That's when I started finding satisfaction and I feel again I had satisfaction like I felt a car to >> but I also felt a choking burden. A choking burden >> because I felt like no matter what I do, I'm I like I'm not driving this hard enough. And I and and I you know and I I'll tell you that that I had an employee and again I'm I think I'm a really nice boss and and and but I had I had an employee who I was very close with and um and he told me he says he's and in in in in the in the most nice way possible. He's like you know you're you're difficult to work for because you like you drive like you're never satisfied like you're just and he's he was right. I wasn't ever satisfied and I wasn't happy with whatever results we got because I always expected more and I still want and and and strive for more and strive for the best. But um I think I'm a much healthier person now because >> you got out of the way. >> I got out of the way. >> You just get out got out of the way. >> Yeah. I try I'm trying. It's a daily It's a daily struggle. I'm not going to tell you it's not I'm not perfect and it's I think it'll continue to be a struggle. But um you know it's uh it's something that I I tell you if there's one if there's one message I can give to your listeners this for the struggle >> podcast you know that >> um a couple books really changed me um yeah there's there's two books by Mosha Gers one is called the three conditions >> and the other one's called it's all the same to me was the first one it was a USA Today and Wall Street Journal bestseller small short book >> on the cover it was so like I was like blown away this this bestselling book on the cover it had a testimony from Deepo Chopra on the back it had it had testimonies from Usher Weiss Rav Conn and an ESPN sports analys analyst like I was like wow what is this book >> right >> and it changed my life it was it was amazing and then when his second book the three conditions came out I honestly didn't want to read it because I was so enamored by the first book um finally I read the second book and I I was like turning the pages one by one and I was like how is this possible I think it's better than the first one and I read it five times in the last 2 years. >> What is the core message? >> The core message of of the three conditions is that there's three conditions to living a um a a happy meaningful life. Intention, certainty, and joy. >> Okay. >> Intention is how aligned you feel to your inner essence. That's why giving is so important because our inner deepest inner highest truest essence is giving. Right. Right. >> But in general, the the more you feel aligned to your inner essence, the more meaningful your life's going to be. That's number one. >> So intention means you have to have the right intention. what you're doing. >> Yeah. Like right like intention you're like if you can be authentic >> right >> to your intentionally you're you do things with intention to your alignment right >> that's one thing very very important the next thing is called certainty which is basically if I was going to say in a Jewish term would be >> right >> right and and and basically the more you have the more you understand in your core that hash everything everything is for the good >> everything is for the good we might understand it but Everything is for the good is that's the number two. So that's you got intention and and and certainty >> and joy is the barometer of how good how well you're doing on the first two >> the first two, >> right? So the the the closer you are to your most inner authentic self and the closer you are to being 100% certain that everything's for the good. If you're the higher you are in those two, the more joy you have, >> right? And then he talks about once you're in joy once you have joy that's when the miracles happen and the syn synchronicities happen right >> and I remember I I'm close to a big >> I don't if you heard of him he's a big sadic >> and I had the privilege to become close to him before daily giving in fact I I kind of think whatever that I end up >> giving becoming treating him and coming close to him and um is what ended up leading to daily giving through >> and he always he's always guy been in his house and people come from all over the world for braas from him and he one of the famous stories these two these two girls came to they read um they read before there was a book called 180 about the this thick in English about the different Yeshua and bro that came true from him I'm blanking on the on the doctor that mayor Wickler Dr. Dr. Mayor Wler wrote 180 yafo and in it there's this story of these two girls who heard about it and they were looking for shukim and that's one of his like specialties and they and they literally went to Israel to get a bra from him and they went to yafu. He doesn't meet there anymore. This is this is decades ago. And they got there and they saw that it was it was it was leaving or or it was ending and they and they were panicking and they went up to this this this this um this man and they and they said we we're here to see and it was himself and he said I'm actually leaving. I'm I'm going to I'm sorry but you'll have to come next week or something. They said no we're leaving tomorrow. They started crying. They burst out crying and he said what time's your flight tomorrow? Anyway, he said come to my house tomorrow morning. But he said to them, "But listen, the only way any braha works is if you have it with simka. You have to live in simka." And that always stuck with me. But but but after I read the three conditions of Mosha Gers and the whole thing is that is that really it's what it's all about. Miracles and joy and synchronicities happen when you're in joy. When you live in your most authentic self, when you live with and you live in joy, that's when the miracles happen. And that's what was saying. He gives Brussels all the time and he he doesn't I remember seeing him say Brussels and I asked Reby like the amount of specific specificity like you could tell you're gonna have a you're gonna you're gonna meet you're gonna you're gonna get married this year. No, he's like like you're going to be engaged by perm and he'll be he's and I asked him why be so specific. He says I just open my mouth whatever Hashem says comes out >> you know and um but it but it you have to have joy and he lives in such >> Yeah. because the amuna will do that. >> Yeah. >> You know, the amuna. >> Yeah. >> Amazing. Amazing stuff. And that's >> Wow. It's amazing. >> Speaking about, let me just tell you one one quick story that's that's I'm really I it just makes me so happy. Um the first year we started daily giving. Uh um someone I like a a relative, not through blood, signed up for daily giving for $2 a day. And I know, you know, again, this is sort of um and I called her and I said, "Why did you sign up for $2 a day?" And she said, "One for me and one for my future husband." >> And she was 36 years old and single. And um she she got engaged six months later. >> Wow. >> And I told that story to both Rabbi Klatskco and Rabbi Efron Goldberg. And both of them told it on their podcasts. And it started a chain reaction of people signing up for $2 a day. One for themselves, one for the future spouse. And this year alone, it's it's where we're in September. Um already 10 people have got engaged who reached out then I know 10 have reached out to say, you know, I signed up for $2 a day and I got engaged. >> And um yeah, it's just uh something where I think that >> you see miracles. >> I think you could I think I think it's possible that people give Saddaka and with an intention of what they would like to see and maybe I don't know. I don't want to say but I just seen it with that. It's pretty amazing and um so and I think is one of the things that's let's let's be honest it's very very difficult for for singles out there something I have such uh >> such sympathy for >> talking about people like you're involved in this organization you also find >> that there's so much turas in the world because there you you see the amounts of money that you're giving away and the amount of type of medic uh the type of organizations >> that help other people >> that is also opened up a new window in your life. >> I want you to know that Thursday night I spoke to Rabi Pes. >> Yeah. >> Cuz I had to call him about the new stuff cuz we wanted to add >> and I was going through the reports with him and going through and he starts crying. >> And he says I can't I just can't handle how he's like how do you do how do you deal with this all the suffering? >> Yeah. >> So there's both sides, right? Like the amount of suffering there is >> is so is so difficult. >> You're almost like a Reb who's listening to all the suras. Uh not quite but yeah it it it is difficult and I think sometimes I do have to put a wall up a little bit to to because I also get to see all the good and the happiness right the good part of it but >> it is a lot there's a lot of struggle there's a lot of struggle >> a lot of struggle out there and >> if you know if we can be on the giving end >> it's it's it's something to be thank Hashem for you know now does it sometimes take you over when you also see in a world of in the world of craziness that we live in that there are people with such generosity that people have such hearts >> and they get overtaken by organization like this. >> Look, I every single time someone signs up, my phone vibrates and I look it's like it doesn't get old. It does not get old. >> It it's like nothing makes me happier. Uh I could be having a terrible day. You know, I I'll tell you that Tishabove happens to be a day where a lot of people join daily giving. >> Yeah. >> You know, we have different organizations we put out, you know, we try to make a new commercial every year. and project inspire puts in their video and a puts in their video and puts in their video and I'm trying to think of other Kazak and Torah anytime put in there right >> and so I have to say that I feel kind of guilty that the last couple years tishabove even though I'm fasting and it's tishov but I I feel guilty that I feel so happy because the whole day people are boom new giver new giver new giver and it's like I'm so happy >> what is it just a soft moment that people have >> I think tishov of all days of the is the day that we that that unity that people think, wow, to give a dollar a day every day with my brothers and sisters. Like, >> look, you're a daily giver. You know what it's like. And >> I think that >> it is ch Look, we all give. We all give a lot, right? >> We all give a lot. And >> but there's something different about giving together as a community. >> Words can't describe it. >> Words can't describe it. What message do you have for people who really want to give sud but they don't have whatever they have they they need for the grocery and this that their mind is at the at the point is you know we know you know talks about it that when the business is down and you have a bad moment write check >> it was like how am I writing a check now I need it for payroll I need it what you talking about supply needs it says no write the check and that is what's going to bring the shea I've seen it so that is a I know. I know. It's so >> There's a person who says, "I would love to give. I can't." >> Yeah. I I would I would I would tell them the next time you could save up $31 to do it. Sign up for a month and cancel and then sign up. I we see this there's this one woman who sends in cash in an envelope. >> Wow. >> And she sometimes and I I literally have cried like she always sends a nice message and she's like, "I'm sorry I didn't have enough to send last month." Right. Like >> Yeah. And I I believe that that's exactly that is when the biggest the biggest >> biggest seduka in the world. >> Yeah. Is when when you when you give when you can't when you lose your job that's when you double down. >> Yeah. >> That's when the the shine will open for you if you show Hashem that you're a giver and and what it'll do. So, >> but it's hard. I've been there. I've been I've I've struggled with money. And it's harder to give stuck when you're struggling with money because you think how how can I >> you think about yourself, your house? >> How can I? It's uh Yeah, >> it's a reverse psychology. >> It is. >> That's what it is. Now, also, how about singles and bkim and girls could sign up as well. It's only a dollar and the a pack of cigarettes is uh what is it now? $13. How much is a >> I don't know. I don't know. But but it's it's I like to say with inflation the last couple years, daily giving gets cheaper and cheaper. It's a better deal every day as as more inflation. It's still a dollar a day. >> So, what is your dream? Let's say your children or the next generation generation long time that we're both not going to be here. Yeah. >> This thing should go on until Mashiach. >> I hope we're going to bring Mashiah very soon. I I I I I really think that the daily giving is one of those things that could bring Msiah. >> And uh I hope it won't be too much longer. But uh yeah, I I I I'm trying to stay focused on that 1%. Get to get to 145,000 Jews giving a dollar every day together. That's my first goal. Let's get there. And then I'll then I I then I'll have bigger goals. But >> because it's a huge lesson that we can learn from this that uh first of all an idea uh to turn into action and then a dollar a day can turn into a movement. >> Yeah. >> A movement and a movement that doesn't hurt anybody. >> A movement that only helps and it touches people's lives. >> You know, I I I've thought about Romeir Shapiro and and Dafomi, you know, a lot of how how that's grown. if if he could only see what it what Dafomi movement has turned into. >> And I did one full cycle of dafomi before and I >> and from someone who's if you do dafomi it's it's so much easier to give a dollar a day than to do every day. >> So so I believe if the dove is learned by I believe hundreds of thousands of people I I really do think that daily giving one day will get there to hundreds of thousands of of giving giving a dollar every day. >> Uh let me ask you a funny question. People hold on to their money >> Yeah. like for their dear life. Does money make you happy? >> Giving makes you happy. >> That's tell that giving makes you happy. Does money make you happy? >> I think there's a lot of of creature comforts that you can buy with money. I think my my in-laws I think my my in-laws have a line that like rich or poor it's nice to have money, >> right? >> Um and I think that's true. Um but I've actually three of my patients are billionaires, so I've actually seen billionaires up close. Um, and I always say like I think uh I think the the lottery was $1.8 billion just a couple days ago. >> And I and people are like, "Oh, I was actually with a friend on Sunday." He goes, "Oh, that would solve a lot of problems." I'm thinking the opposite. Like $1.8 billion would be a nightmare. It would be an absolute nightmare. I remember in high school I had a friend who was like, "Aunt won $28 million." And he said it broke up the whole family. That's 28 million. >> It broke up the whole family. I think that >> I think the money is a blessing and a curse. That's it's what you do with the money, you know. But but I I'm so blessed to see the giving nature of Jews, you know, to that that I that I'm that I get in front of some of the biggest philanthropists in in the world, you know. Um I don't want to you I just >> Yeah. >> You know, someone once introduced me and I was speaking at a vendor like you know they're like this this guy might be giving more money a year than any one person. I'm like I know a Jew who gives $200 million of sodaka a year. people don't even know, you know, like it's it's like so yeah, it's uh >> it's fulfillment that we're looking for, not so much for uh you know, materialistic things and stuff >> that that has no price. >> Yeah. >> To to have this fulfillment knowing that you're working, you're out there >> and you're sharing, you give give to another person. >> Yeah. >> What are you living for? >> Yeah. You know says that uh it's the biggest form of bet that you give suduka because you trust in Hashem that tomorrow you'll have more. >> What are you hoardering the money? >> That's right. That's right. >> Then you don't trust. >> Right. >> If you want to hold on to it then I'll tell you. >> I spoke to I spoke to a gentleman last night >> because again I just got this amazing opportunity to do this incredible marketing campaign that I think is going to be possibly the greatest thing we've done so far and it's going to cost $116,000 and I don't have $16,000. So I literally have to raise that money, >> right? >> But the Seducka ROI is unbelievable cuz everybody who signs up for Day of Giving, most never stop. >> Right. >> So even a dollar a day, we're getting another Jew to give thousands of dollars to not to mention they're going to tell other people and everything. Right. Right. >> So I call this philanthropist up and and for whatever reason, he told me um he said it's public information that he just committed a million dollars to to build his new shel. >> Mhm. >> And it's he said it's public whatever it's going whatever. And um he told me that in his in his donor, this is someone who gives a million dollars. You so I know people have donor advice funds that have millions of dollars in their donor advised funds sitting there. >> Yeah. >> He told me he has $800 in his donor advice fund. He says as soon as it comes in, it goes out. >> And I I had so much respect for that, right? Because uh like you just said, it's like it's, you know, you don't want to be caught tomorrow with millions of dollars in your donor waiting to be given to Stucka. >> Yeah. And I think it's also beautiful this part of the organization is that um the money is not yours and you're selecting who you're giving, who you're not giving to. What do you know? What is a good place? Not a good, you know what I mean? Yeah. >> You put this in this pool of money. >> Yeah. >> And you just your intent is good. >> I love that you said that cuz sometimes people say, I don't want to give to >> correct >> ex organizations. So I said, you know what? They said, can I not can you make it so I don't give to the organization? I said, "No, but I'm telling you that you get extra scar that day." >> Yeah. >> Cuz now you gave it to an organization you didn't even want to give. >> Right. No, but it's like it's not your money to control. It's not I'm not giving there. I'm not giving here. You have it all wrong. You know, the bonjam gave you the money. You have to you give suka that don't control it. Yeah. >> And that's why it's so beautiful with this uh with this organization that I love. >> Um >> thank you for having me. Thank you for thank you for for using your platform to to to expose what we're doing to others. I really really appreciate it. >> Yeah. Yeah. Now, as a chiropractor, you're in your personal life, you're also a chiropractor. You are in the field of healing and care. So, this is all in one uh one one big happy family. What's your advice for somebody as a chiropractor to uh you know take care of their body or you know one one message as a professional uh for a person to know from a chiropractor's point of view how do you take care of your body? >> What a good question. >> Mind, body, soul. I was going to say if I could you know back to back to you know the three conditions of Mosha Gur's book also also another book I was going to say that really I love it's called radical compassion >> by Tara Brock um another book that helped me tremendously to learn more self-compassion and self-love. Um, I've been doing this for I've been I've been a chiropractor for 19 years >> and I treat people in very very terrible serious pain and all pain has an emotional component to it. All pain. >> Wow. >> Um, you know, you could be stress like you know people don't understand like do you remember as a kid you had a test and like your stomach would go to nuts and you have to go to the bathroom. That's a a a thing in your head that emot caused a physical manifest manifestation. So, >> um, so I I think working on on on being in your best emotional state is going to help your physical body as well. And how could you do that? >> I think exercise is very very important. >> Um, and it doesn't have to be it could be it could be walking. >> I think being outside and walking is so important. If you could jog and run and get your heart rate up, even better. If you could lift weights, you know, I have a cardiothoracic surgeon that's my patient. He's 68 years old. He's in amazing shape. And he tells me every day, he's like he's like Jonathan is from longevity. There's literally nothing you could do more better. Forget supplements, peptides, all these stem cells. If you lift weights and you build muscle mass, there's literally and I read, you know, I read a book on longevity. It talk lifting, you know, having muscle mass is very, very important because after about 44, age 40, 45, you start losing muscle mass every year. So having muscle mass is really important. eating healthy sugar. I'm not going to tell you I don't eat I love rug, you know, it's my it's my it's my uh it's my kryptonite, but >> but sugar is really bad for you. You know, you know, drink a lot of water. Um these are just some of the simple things that you can do. >> What you're saying is that the the mind and the body works together. >> It works very much. >> I know this the famous Dr. Sano that he's talking about the the back pain. You people have such problems with their backs and he's connecting it only to the mind. >> Yes. Yes. Um, I I most chiropractors might say, "Oh, that's a bunch of nonsense." I I I think he's on to something very important. I don't like everything he says, you know, I don't agree fully, but there are a lot of parts to what he says that I do understand and I do think >> um play a very very big role, you know. >> So, you're a big believer that the mind, the body, and the soul, which means your spirituality and being positive and doing what you need to do, >> it's all aligned. It's all together. >> Yeah. I think that now after 19 years looking back at what I do and why I think I'm good at what I do is that I try I think when people when I'm treating people I am very much treating their physical bodies but the way I care for them and the way I help them in other ways emotionally spiritually I think now looking back might be why I have such success with my patients because it is all in tandem it all kind of comes together >> beautiful and now the final question who is your role model. >> Wow. Who is my role model? Um >> um Charlie Harrari is a big role model of mine. Mhm. >> Um you know I I um you know Charlie's a lawyer and you know um dedicate so much of his life to the cl and speaking and inspiring and I >> inspiring a lot of people >> right and and um Gdalia Fster now you know similarly also as a businessman that is also just inspiring the world and >> um you know I've had tremendous Rabana my whole lives just each one of them inspiring their own ways but for me as a business as someone in the business world like >> to look to someone like Charlie Rari Gdali Fster who who you who have made it really made it financially and successfully in in their life but then dedicate their lives to >> to teaching and inspiring others. Um those are the top of my head two two uh two inspiring figures that I look up to. >> Amazing. Amazing amazing stuff. >> Jonathan, I want to thank you for sharing your heart, for sharing your mission. You're helping people coming out of their struggles and you're helping also people uh find their fulfillment. You're helping people become givers. It is unbelievable the way you took an idea and you turned it into action. Um you you teach people that a small act of kindness small can turn into a to what a ripple effect this has is tremendous. It's tremendous. Um inspiring so many people. So the message for everybody who's listening, don't procrastinate. You're here, you're inspired. You want to do something, jump online. >> That's right. Go to daily g dailygiving.org right now. It'll take literally 60 seconds and you you will be a giver the rest of your life or you cancel anytime. If you don't have enough money, don't worry about it. You can cancel. But um check it out. I think you're going to love >> signing up and become with Clu and your dollar is going to make such an impact, such a difference. >> It's going to make a difference in your life. People don't realize I think that's the really number one thing that I've realized is just becoming a giver what it does, >> right? And and you know some like oh it's not it's it's not the reward for giving is being a giver. >> Yeah should help you that you should have koak you should have strength to continue with this beautiful mission that you have and this beautiful vision and I want to thank you for leading by example. >> Thank you. >> Thank you so much for coming in. >> Thank you so much for having me. Really appreciate it. >> Thank you. Thank you. Excellent.