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The Soul of Israel: Do You Dream to Eat or Eat to Dream
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In this weeks program, Rabbi’s Shlomo Katz and Ari Abramowitz seek to understand the illusion of time and how we can best internalize the Torah’s messages of self liberation.
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Shalom everyone this is Katz
you're listening to the soul of Israel
online live is without common land of
Israel common network rabbi Aria brown
woods good morning how are you my friend
I've been good to go since I saw your
face at approximately seven forty seven
this morning
because I know it's a spiel for me to
get here from the mountaintop but it's
just worth it to me to get here for
Tania you know just like the last 15
minutes changed my whole day so special
and great that's always a pleasure being
it's always putting the lashley net
there don't worry I'm not holding you to
it but the 135,000 listeners right now
we're holding you to it right other than
that it's just between me and you I met
last last show we recorded it would
think we were on the bus on the way to
northern Israel that was exactly a week
ago it was last Wednesday I believe
isn't it incredible how much how much
can be done in such little time it's
incredible seems like a lot longer than
a week but that's what I was actually
gonna talk about today time is such an
illusion on so many levels we speak and
we refer back to the to the years of
slavery that we suffered in the eggs in
the Egyptian exile but when we read our
torah how long were we in Egypt for
right so in the coos fan of history
that's nothing but what about the span
of the portions we go into Egypt really
this Shabbos this portion we really like
now already in there but we already
start coming out in three partials
there's 52 portions of the week the
tourists are in 52 portions three to
four of them are really us in exile the
rest is us trying to understand what is
the best way to live with the gift of
freedom from exile but being an exile
was very very short comparatively to
what you know what the rest of the big
picture was and it had me thinking about
a lot of things but in terms of time in
terms of the illusion of how much we
could can or can't do with time that's
given us if you feel like this but when
people ask me how old I am I'm now 38 I
believe and when I say 38 I want to
always follow it up by saying but it's a
misunderstanding
[Laughter]
emotionally maturity wise I've still
like 2200 I thought you're gonna say no
but else I'm an elder I'm a 71 year old
it's very relative it's very it's very
what you feel old if you are younger
than you you know I was always I always
clung to older people when I was younger
my friends were always older
it's probably still like that like some
of my closest friends you know one of my
best friends in the world was
69 he just passed away at 69 it's very
bizarre I don't know I don't know maybe
maybe it's my TKE when my fixing is to
let go of that and like you know start
watching Tony Danza and who's the boss
again and be okay with it and just
connect to the in their little me but I
don't know what do I know all I know is
that
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whoever it is but as we go into
as we go into this this Egyptian exile
so even if we were there for three
partials four brushes whatever it is
it's time to really now sink our teeth
in again into the causes of Exile and
the way we came out because if we remind
ourselves and we learn the lessons that
are given to us from with the Torah
tells us we really won't have to keep on
reading about this because we'll be done
with this story but we read it not
because it's fixed we read it because
God is always telling us here and here
and here physically you were removed but
mentally you're still in all these
places and
something came to light a few years ago
that I wanted to discuss
the Torah of burry sheet of Genesis ends
off last partial with the death of now
I'm testing you
say it with conviction Joseph thank you
exactly with Joseph with Yosef death and
the first thing that we know about the
king parrot Pharaoh it says viacom
Marisa - Alma time a new king arose on
Egypt and what do we know but the only
thing we know about him surely at that
yes if he didn't know you safe
very bizarre first of all you'd think he
would know you're safe because yosef in
the Egyptian culture Joseph was probably
one of the you know his picture was
everywhere he was a he was a leader
historic yeah iconic correct so I'm sure
that he knew who Joseph was and
further what does it even matter why is
why even let's say he didn't know who he
is what does that have to do with
introducing me to Pat too far oh well
what does it have to do with it so let
me ask all of you dear stairs friends
when it comes to Joseph 20 years of
Atlantic what's one of the things that's
always connected to Joseph a certain
concept that we have in our lives what's
one of the things he was always busy
with from the time he was a young kid he
was busy with this while he was in jail
it was very connected to the essence of
his being dreams dreams dreams
dreams dreams anyway he's a dreamer he's
so lucky you could do that just start
building up beautiful music I I learned
from you and Jeremy
57 days till poor
energy dreams he's always connected to
dreams he's sharing his dreams he's
interpreting dreams and he's seeing his
dreams come alive right before him like
impress me kids when his brothers
actually did come and bow down before
him he dreamt that he's very connected
to the concept of dreams
before we connect back to the Pasha I
once heard a beautiful teaching by Rabbi
Carlebach and he said the
following in Hebrew the word for bread
bread is let him and
people eat bread for one of two reasons
either
you eat bread you can eat a person why
do you eat bread I need less him because
I need to fight I need strength Lee he
loved him that can come from the word to
fight Lila ham milk Amma go to war war
but then you ask some holy person
you ask him why are you eating bread and
I'll tell you because I need the power
to start dreaming again column that
along also comes from this word let him
a holy person eats not in order to be a
warrior in this world he eats in order
to have the warrior of a bit of the
power of imagination to be able to dream
again now let's go back into our
pressure but yeah chimera hadashah
mitzrayim when were introduced to the
8th Sahara to the oppressor pyro I shall
owe ya diet yourself there's one thing
the 8th Sahara doesn't know of or
doesn't recognize or doesn't value and
that is that the oppressed person the
year he as long as he's connected to
yourself he'll keep on dreaming no
matter what there'll be a slave will be
oppressed he'll be tormented he doesn't
see anything good he feels that his days
are just one big bubble of slavery of
nothingness
Michael - ha - I'm its I Michelle oh
yeah dad yourself this king couldn't
imagine in a million years that such a
pressed people could still be dreamers
when mushiya comes it says be sure ashan
achieve at sea on hyena curumim will
realize that what gave us the strength
to get here today wasn't what we saw in
front of us all the years in exile
because what we saw in front of us
especially in exile where babies being
shoved into brick walls to fill in
bricks or being thrown into the Nile
women parents families being tortured
that's what we saw that's not what
brought us still today the perseverance
came from the power of a Jew to dream to
be connected to Yosef and that's that's
our sustenance we eat in order to dream
not just to survive
surviving we spoke about this so many
times surviving the vs. thriving so
that's one key thing that were
introduced to as we begin learning about
the Exile paro the eighth Sahara forgets
one he has us in every other area
he comes and oppresses us but not this
was one thing that we keep on surprising
him and surprising ourselves somehow we
can still dream so I would say like this
you can be in Israel and still be in
exile because if you're okay with the
way things are today but you stopped
dreaming
you're not connected to Yosef and parles
winning parallels governing when you
start accepting things just for what
they are be a pragmatist a practical
status quo it's been beautiful we got
the Kotel
Ino Ino
column column
22,000 753 Jews went up to higher by in
22,000 753 I believe just what I report
I read yesterday that's approximately
8200 more than the year before there are
dreamers in this world there are
dreamers
but if you really want to know what a
person is and who they are asked
somebody what do you dream about not
what are your dreams at night that we
don't really have much to live what what
are you consciously what do you actively
choose to dream about and that'll
probably get you closer to who a person
is deep down inside you want to be
around dreamers not dreamers in the
negative sense Walla uper shoots out of
mind meaning like you're out to lunch
you're a dreamer but literally that's
how we get things done in this world you
know usually honestly the the world what
you and I have the privilege of learning
Torah every day in the Judean Hills I
never dreamt that because unfortunately
I'm a finite dreamer I have to learn how
to become an infinite dreamer but that's
a dream come true I think one of our
grandfathers dreamed it for us I dreamt
it for us could be no unless you've been
dreaming this for a while and now it's
coming on to fruition I don't know but
it's a dream to me it's a dream what
goes on in our school it should it to me
it's a dream but a
real serious healthy spiritual spiritual
journey is filled with thankfulness for
yesterday and not being satisfied for
today because today's more today's why
so why wait when we come down into the
Exile we're told by Hashem there's a new
king that comes onto the scene
and he never ever believed in his
wildest dreams that such a press people
could dreams that's one direct message
to us he got a dream but that didn't
begin the redemption yet the redemption
begins somewhere else
the redemption begins a few sukham later
when that King dies and I miss Robin
Israel in in Egypt start feels some kind
of an opening okay this evil man died
but we're still so oppressed v's a cool
Vltava tomley from there looking they
couldn't even get a word out but they
started ah
whatever it was screaming crying without
even saying any words and the Torah says
the words were brought up before the
throne of glory and then it says vise
man looking by a die look him God heard
this is what God heard and then God said
this is when he knew now they're ready
for me to begin to actively show them
that they're on their way out all the
hasidic teachings say the following the
beginning of any any liberation from
anywhere begins not when you come to a
realization or an understanding but
you're in a bad place that's just a
realization but an active way of
showing yourself that you're ready to
get out is when the crutch starts
happening not glitcher when you sure I
when you scream before a sham I've had
this I don't know about you I think
we've spoken about this and you probably
have had some other experiences where
you do have some kind of a momentous
occasion something happened something
pivotal in your life takes place and
your natural gut reaction is to just go
oh
boy Rebbe Nachman says in one boy
you say much more than hundreds and
hundreds of conversations that's how
Redemption began Jews just started
looking up and saying boy screaming Oi
so I think these two components of being
a dreamer and of being a screamer is how
the Torah injured to us a new
2018 Tufts in iron set approach to the
Ala now is another chance to get out of
Egypt dreaming where are your dreams and
are you even crying are you even
screaming why a die looking and then God
knows you're ready
so hurry are you ready I think so and I
think that I hope I'm ready but you know
the shoe fashion etzion hyena kick hole
meme will be like dreamers that that's
almost a consequence something about
being here in this land it starts to
engender a certain atmosphere that is
not only conducive but causes I think
the eyes to change its true things don't
really work out here when you plan them
like you could have plans here concrete
plans they usually don't work you got to
be a dreamer you got to always think my
outlet over here you know that I feel
that very much here that's that's the
only way to get through you know
whatever is here is by going above to
that place so be sure wash em achieve at
see on when we say that in benching
we're not talking about one day what
will happen we're talking about what's
happening to us right now
right now it's January what does a
January 3rd today January 3rd 2018 Ted's
eientei vets the 16th day in the month
of David 5778
dreaming but with the Dreaming has got
to come crying and I think that one of
those can be crying or the continuation
of that verse in Psalms it says we'll be
laughing there's is there a fine line
between the two the Laughing I think is
when the gula is
wrap wrapped up I think there are too
many Jews too many non-jews that are way
too much pain for us to start the
laughing process I
think the crying the
the belting out from the deepest depths
of our guts it needs to take precedence
first
you know one time was discussion with
with with with
someone from another religion and we all
we respect everyone but when this person
was pushing a messiah trip on me
you know the whole the only thing we
could say was
does the world look redeemed to you
you're ready to go to that place already
of Eden that's already there no we're
not we got a lot of work to do but every
moment that we get closer we realize how
you know cajon name but as
meaning then
Azam Allah spoke P no volition I mean
have n once that first phase has taken
care of base Ritesh him that's what
we're heading to so I wish us all safe
safe traveling during this journey into
Exodus into schmoes seatbelt on eyes and
heart wide open pay attention to every
hint every letter every conversation
between Moshe are on God and the Jewish
people
every interaction that takes place in
these partial might be crucial for your
understanding how to liberate yourself
have a beautiful and blessed rest of you
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