The Secret To Staying Spiritual While Living Normally

Jason is on the line. Jason, >> hello. Good evening and thanks for having me. >> My pleasure. How are you doing? >> I'm doing wonderful this evening. I'm in the Midwest here. It's about 100 degrees, but we're surviving. >> Where in the Midwest, do you want to say? >> Uh, near Kansas City. >> Near Kansas City. On the Kansas side or the Missouri side? >> Missouri side, but I've lived on both. >> Very good. All right. I was in Kansas about a year ago, but way in the middle of Kansas. I was in Lawrence. >> That's not the middle Kansas, but it's been about an hour outside of Kansas City. Right. >> Yeah. It's about 45 minutes. It's a very interesting town. It's definitely great to visit there. I lived there for about five years. >> There's a painting on the wall of this studio. actually not where you can see in this shot, but on on the other end of the studio that I got in Lawrence, Kansas. So that's there's a there's an object in the room I'm sitting right now that comes from Lawrence, Kansas. Isn't that >> I love those synchronicities. That's amazing. >> Yeah. All right. So, what's going on? >> Well, um I'll just preface this real quick um with just a quick background. And I experienced a spiritual awakening about three years ago. >> Um completely flipped my life upside down. Um um changed all my belief systems. Started waking up at 3:00 in the morning and meditating out of nowhere, having visions, having insight on my whole life. Um you saw the world completely differently. Um that's the quick version of it. Um, but you know, it's it's been quite the path since then and and changed me and I've had to, you know, work with those uh um all that knowledge and being able to see through things and intuition. Um, >> yep. >> And you a lot of things had to exit my life at that point, you know. So, of course, um, you know, marriage, house, job, a lot of those things left and I have a young child. >> Okay. um and um been on the path since then and it's it's been a crazy ride but u you know I'm I'm super grateful for the whole thing and um um you know I can see all these things that happened to me and and how uh it's actually benefited me you know when you get on the other side of it helps but um >> um one big thing's been coming up recently and I know there's previous trauma on that but I uh had a job that recently closed down a few weeks ago and um I have a lot of um fear and anxiety that come up um about um finances. Now you know of course the spiritual side of me doesn't doesn't like money and I you know you know I I try to I try to not let it rule my life but it's also something that's very much needed in this world. >> Yeah. And um I'm trying to live my life and go dayto day, but I I do wake up sometimes in complete fear. You know, I could lose my child or this and that and and it overwhelms me and I like I like to speak like I I'm above this, but when I am in it, I am certainly not. I am fearful, you know, and it and and you had a couple videos that popped up for me and I saw it today and I and I, you know, I just appreciate any input on it. >> Well, it's very interesting to me that you had this very intense spiritual awakening. I mean, very intense, relatively uh intense. It created an upheaval in your life. Um, you know, so on one hand, you had this really intense spiritual awakening, which seems I mean, you're saying it happened a few years ago, so it wasn't like something that was a fleeting thing. It's still with you. It changed your whole lifestyle. Um, and yet at the same time, you're still experiencing fears around money. So, it's very interesting to me. I I don't know the answer to this, but I have a I have a question which is h that's like interesting. Why do you think that you had this major rearrangement of of of the way you see life and yet the money thing still triggers you? What's up with that? Well, I think because I struggle on blending my spiritual life and I guess we would say normal life together. >> Yes. I think that's a very >> hard for me. >> That insight really resonates with me based on things that I know about you. >> And do you know how I know things about you? >> How >> I'm not psychic, but I listen. I know things about you based on what you've told me. And what you told me is that when you had your spiritual awakening, it was massively disruptive to I mean, you told me you you lost your family over it. So it what what you just said really resonates with me as true that you have a difficulty with you called it blending. I might call it integrating uh the spiritual with the regular because when you had this gift and I do think it's a gift of this massive spiritual awakening you weren't able to integrate it with your everyday life which to me like the the pinnacle of everyday life is is the home. So what you just said about yourself I I think is very uh insightful and it resonates with me as being completely accurate based on everything I know about you based on what you've told me. >> Does this make sense to you what I'm saying? Does this >> it does. >> So I'm just wondering I'm thinking out loud here. I'm wondering how much of your path in front of you has to do specifically with the challenge of integrating the spiritual into the ordinary. In other words, let me say it like this. Anyone can be spiritual if they take an oath of poverty and celibacy and they live on a mountaintop and uh you know it's very easy to be spiritual that way but it's very hard to be spiritual when you are having to show up on a dayto-day basis doing adult things in society having regular responsibilities much much harder to stay spiritual much harder to be transcendent while you're also present in the in the here and now. So I I'm wondering if like this the money thing is just a symbol of the challenge that's in in front of you to integrate specifically to integrate the spiritual into the mundane. >> Yes, I'm with you. And um you know I mean I think the reality is it's all spiritual. >> Well yes. Yes. Um everything is spiritual >> from moment to moment even but >> but there are two modes of spirituality. There's the overtly spiritual >> and then there's the hidden spiritual. Overtly spiritual is like the miraculous, the supernatural. >> Then there's the hidden spiritual which is the natural, the the day-to-day >> which also is is is a gift and and is straight from God, but it it it it requires more maturity to perceive it. I I I I'm wondering like this. I'm just again I'm just thinking out loud but regarding practices that would help you to integrate your spirituality with your everyday life. What I might even call your embodied life. Does that make sense to you why I would refer to it as your embodied life? >> Yes. >> Good. Okay. I want to just because there's other people listening I want to explain it to them. You know, speak about spiritual life. You know, that's like the life of the soul. And you know, where's the soul most comfortable? Oh, certainly not in a body. You know, the soul is light. What's it doing in a finite little container? You know, >> it's a funny thing, you know, to be a soul in a body. Um, and yet the creator in his infinite wisdom dispatched us here for a reason. Knows what he's doing. There's a purpose to it. And you know in some ways this is the ultimate spiritual uh accomplishment is to find peace in embodiment. So I I would like to talk to you about like maybe some practices that would help you to integrate your your spiritual your intense spiritual awareness into everyday embodied life. Does that sound like it would be an important piece of the puzzle at least? That sounds wonderful. Okay. Okay. >> Okay. So, it's it's interesting that money is a trigger for you because money actually is part of the the healing here. Um, you you said you don't really like money and I I get why you don't like it because you're a spiritual guy or at least you've become a very spiritual guy and money is a distraction. I would encourage you to start incorporating money into your spiritual practice. And the specific way to do that would be through through charity. And it doesn't have to be large amounts. When it comes to charity, the important thing is not the amount, but the frequency. Meaning to practice charity as a as a regimen repeatedly throughout the day. In fact, in fact, what's going on with the video feed because trying to fix it. All right, so the video feed right now is not working, but there's a on my desk. Nobody can see it right now. But on my desk, there's a little canister, and you can hear me rattling it right now. It's making noise because there's coins inside of it. But what it's for is to give charity. I keep it on my desk and before I give a class or before I do anything, I take some uh money and I put it in there and I do that repeatedly, multiple times a day. And there's something about the act of physical um not just you're you're you're taking money. You're you're you're changing it from one uh account to another, but there's a physical uh component of it where you reach into your pocket, you pull out the money, and you put it in the in this uh canister, and then when it's full, you take it down to whatever good cause it is that you're supporting. I think that might be very healing and settling for you to get your soul more integrated into your body. I love that and it's very practical and easy. I've actually, you know, thought want to do that and but that is an actual physical thing and act and I know how that can help rewire your brain as well. >> Yes, that's right. The repeated act sort of treads new neural pathways. Yeah. So I think that might be very helpful just it doesn't have to be large amounts even you know some pocket change but making that part of your your daily practice I think can be very healing and settling and be the beginning of getting your soul more comfortable in your body and feeling more empowered in your body. >> Yep. And that's another big word is just the uh empowered. Yeah, >> because I felt like I've lost a little bit of that and um um it's all intertwined. But yes. >> Yeah. And also another thing is that when you give charity, uh God pays you back. So if you're struggling a little bit financially, so by giving charity, you will receive more. Um, again, it doesn't have to be crazy amounts that you know would be reckless for you in your position to give. It could be small amounts, but the repeated act will open up the pipeline to to receive financial blessings. >> I I love that. Uh, it's kind of opposite of what you think. You lose a job and you start to tighten up. But I I think you're 100% right. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's scary, you know. It's like we feel like we feel like it's the last thing we need to do is to to be giving away any of our money. But there's an old uh parable that a guy goes to the the post office to mail a package and they weigh the package and they tell him it costs uh whatever $5 to mail the package and based on the weight and uh you have to buy stamps. And so he gives them the money and they take the stamps. They put they start putting the stamps on the package. Says, "Stop. What are you doing?" And they said, "We're putting the stamps. You just paid for the stamps. They're putting the stamps on the package." He says, "No, but the stamps are going to make the package even heavier." No, no, don't put the stamps on. It'll make it even heavier. >> So in his in his mind, putting the stamps on the package. No, that that's the wrong direction. We don't want to go that direction cuz it it would if it cost this much when it was this weight and now you to put the stamps on it make it even heavier then it'll make but and but the reality is no no no putting the stamps on it is what's going to get it to the destination where you want it to go to. So giving putting the stamps is like giving the charity. It's not going to make it more burdensome. It's going to expedite it. It's going to get it to where it needs to go to which in this case really it getting it what is it and going where it needs to go to where what is where it needs to go to it's your spiritual awakening needs to become more grounded um specifically in areas of the material the mundane the the physical Yeah. Yeah. So, I really I highly recommend that that practice. I recommend it to everyone, but especially in your case. No, I'll start it right away and then of course you put it in there as the act and then of course give that to charity of some sort. Correct. But it's the act of putting it in one place, right? >> Yeah. And then you know you when it's when like if you have a like a container and you fill the container when it's filled you know you can go bring it to what whatever good cause you want be a local cause or whatever it is but just the point is to help others. You're helping others. You're helping either a cause or an individual. It really doesn't matter. The point is you're you know any act of of generosity is is charity. I love it. I love it. >> Okay, good. Good. I'm glad that resonates with you. >> Okay, that's fantastic. >> You've been a ton of help. >> I'm so glad that I was able to to be helpful. I'm very grateful. >> And I hope somebody else was uh able to get some help from it. really that's the only reason I share that spiritual uh story is because you know I had to find people um similar things happened to I thought you I didn't know what was going on with me. So I always I always share that in these types of groups in case it's happening to anybody else so they have somebody to relate to. So >> absolutely absolutely and God knows how to arrange it that people who need to hear it hear it. So you put it out there and you know maybe someone will be listening to the replay at 3 in the morning and they'll say, "Oh my goodness, that is so applicable to my life." Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay. Awesome. Thank you for >> Well, thank you for having me on and Yeah. And thank you for your input and have a wonderful evening and hopefully I'll see you in Lawrence, >> God willing, or in Kansas City or who knows where. All right. >> Be well. >> All right. Have a good evening. Thank you. >> Hi there. I hope you're enjoying this. If the videos that we're creating have enriched your life in any way, I would like to ask you to please consider partnering with us to create more content to help change more lives. 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