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I start using This Magnificent machine
to stack all of these narratives these
stories about why I am freaked out and
in some perverse way I find that
comforting because it's an explanation
we love explanations I'm not really
stressed because of all these stories
I'm telling myself I'm telling myself
this story is because I'm stressed
how should I start
a series on
is the Hebrew word for faith
a Jewish spiritual perspective on this
very very hot topic that everyone's so
interested in today
I I don't think there's a better way to
start it than with a classic Jewish joke
so
one night
Abe is tossing and turning
and his wife Sarah says to him uh AB
dear what's going on why are you tossing
and turning and he says well
I borrowed a thousand dollars
and it's due the loan is due tomorrow I
have to pay it
and I don't have a scent and I just I'm
so worried I can't sleep
so Sarah says to Abe dear who who did
you borrow the thousand dollars from who
do you owe the money to he says well
actually
it's uh
it's our neighbor in this building uh he
lives upstairs you know you know Morris
right she says yes of course you know
Mars well I owe him the money the
money's due tomorrow morning and I I
don't have a dollar I don't have a spot
I don't have a penny I don't have any of
it I'm just beside myself with worry and
I can't sleep
so Sarah says to Abe Abe don't worry she
goes to the window she opens the window
and she says Morris
and all of a sudden they hear a window
upstairs open up he says yeah
she says that's you he says yeah
Sarah says uh
did my husband a borrow a thousand
dollars from you which is due to pay
back tomorrow
he says yeah
she says he doesn't have any of it
she closes the window she turns around
she says you can sleep now Abe Morris is
going to worry
so
I want to talk a little bit about
um
the god-given survival mechanism
that is productive and useful
where we react to negative stimuli
and it helps us to remain safe
and I want to talk about the exact same
physiological mechanisms which are
triggered by stuff
that there's absolutely nothing we can
do about and therefore it's a complete
complete waste of time and energy
and and as I'm about to go into this I
just want to make a major disclaimer
here my training and my qualifications
are solely exclusively within the rabbin
it I'm a rabbi I know a lot of people
who know my work make certain
assumptions about credentials that I
have but I can assure you my only
certification is my rabbinical
ordination I'm not a mental health
professional I do admit and I sometimes
talk about the fact that my father may
be well is a psychologist and I did grow
up in the home of a psychologist which
does account for some of my anxiety and
other issues as well
there's no one is messed up as the
children of the psychologist
um
yeah but I am not a mental health
professional and I'm not attempting to
describe any of these things with any
type of authority if I make any
reference to anxiety I'm not attempting
to do so in any clinical fashion more so
what I'm referencing are popular usages
the way that people now colloquially use
these terms uh like when you heard the
title anxiety in tonight's talk what
Drew you to come here is probably some
type of understanding about what that
means so I'm just using the term in the
same type of way so I mentioned
there are these uh reactions that we
have
which are god-given
as a Believer I have to believe that
they're god-given others would say that
they are uh what they call biologically
advantageous and developed through
Evolution I I that's really not my point
tonight so I what all I want to say is
there are reactions that people have to
distress which are important for
survival
um and again I see it as that's how God
made us when you are walking down the
street and suddenly you hear something
uh and you can't exactly make out what
is that sudden noise and you can't
identify is that a threat so there's a
reason why
um
you have a rush of chemicals you have
the cortisol and the adrenaline and your
heart pumps and you sweat and your
pupils dilate there are productive
reasons for that and it's so that we can
quickly decide how to deal with the
situation fight or flight uh get out of
there or or try to engage with the
threat whatever it may be and and that's
all very important and we wouldn't want
it any other way I mean yeah I mean
ideally we want that there shouldn't be
negative negative stimuli at all but and
when mashiach comes in the world is
perfect there won't be but until such a
time that there are no threats and no
negative things in the world obviously
it's good to have a built-in alarm
system
that's a good thing okay
and it's good that the alarm system uses
uh cues that get our attention and also
not only get our attention but prepare
us for some quick uh action so all of
that those physiological responses are
are good they're a good thing okay
that's if
we're actually responding to
stimuli in our environment
what if however
we're having the physiological response
the stomach ache the tight throat the
the headache whatever it is and each of
us experience these symptoms a little
bit differently
um
when we get that adrenaline dump in our
bloodstream
but what if we're not reacting to any
stimuli in our environment we're
reacting to our thoughts our own
thoughts
so
that's what I want to talk about tonight
we're going to we're we're going to be
doing this for three weeks it's a three
week series
there are many different aspects
of anxiety but
for tonight I just want to zero in on
what do you do
when your body
is going into survival mode
as a reaction or response
to your own thoughts
sometimes that's not what's causing it
and we can talk about that in the coming
uh evenings but tonight I want to talk
about what when what about when it is
and in response to our own thoughts
so uh
maybe we can start
to uh
we can be biblical for a minute
I told you I'm a rabbi so shouldn't
surprise you too much
um
I'll I'll go to the wisdom of of King
Solomon malach the wisest of all
men
and he wrote in his book uh mishlay the
proverbs
a dog
the levish
a worry in the heart of Manchester
means uh
subjugated
some some read the verse it subjugates
him the worry subjugates his heart or he
could really he should subjugate it
what does this mean this is the this is
the verse in Hebrew in the original
Hebrew so this is this subject of a
discussion
in the talmud specifically in track that
Yuma dafa in
75a folio 75a
immaculation
two of the uh sages of the era of the
talmud
so
sometimes the way the sage is
extract meaning from from scripture
as you know or many of you may know that
the Bible is written without vowels
Hebrew was written with consonants
only there is a system of vowels but
that's a
not included in the in the Bible and
then there's a reason for that the
reason is because multiple layers or
levels of meaning are meant to be
included in every word
of scripture
so sometimes a rabbinic exegesis is a
process of
unpacking layers of meaning from the
words of scripture by
introducing different ways of vocalizing
or vowelizing the same the same word
so in the original scripture it says
both read it two different ways and
please remember whenever there is a
difference of opinion of the sages it is
not an actual debate or disagreement it
is
both of these and these are the words of
the Living God in other words the truth
is much larger than one perspective I
know in today's day and age we all live
in our search engine Bubbles and we've
all been radicalized towards the most
extreme version of whatever political
opinion we had in the 90s and then by
this point everybody is basically
completely a caricature of their
original views I know that no offense
but that's if you have uh internet
access that's what's happened to your
brain so which is probably probably also
part of the anxiety which we'll talk
about uh later but I know in 2023 thank
God we don't write checks anymore
because I'd be throwing out a lot of you
know remember we used to write checks
and you
you wouldn't be able to write the
correct year until like April okay at
any rate so I know that we all have
extreme uh views and we like to have
real black and white views it's either
this or it's that but in the
in the case where our sages have
Divergent opinions about their
interpretation of scripture or any other
matter both
perspectives are valid perspectives and
different ways of looking at the truth
the truth is more nuanced than can be
expressed or contained within one
vantage point so we need both of these
so
they read it like this and as I said
this is the Gambar in Yuma
yasihana
you pronounces the shin as a sin those
who know Hebrew will be able to follow
what that is
remove it from your mind ignore it
forget about it don't think about it
the other one says
yes
from the word conversation speak it out
to others to others
very different approaches
one is saying ignore it the other's
saying talk about it
well which one is it
they're very different
one is saying pretend it's not there
that's the first opinion the other one
is I'm going to lean into it I'm going
to talk about it I'm going to articulate
it I'm going to explain what it is
so as I said both of these are valid
approaches
and I want to talk a little bit about
where and when each one of these is
appropriate
and how to apply them
so
I'll introduce another verse from from
King Solomon for a moment here this is
from kehalis or what they call
Ecclesiastes chapter 7 verse 29
schleming Malik saysi
but see I found another thing I found
another truth
Yasha
that God made a person yahshua Yasha
means straight but probably the more
literal uh translation in this context
would be straightforward like simple not
complicated people are not complicated
the way God made the way God made us
King Solomon continues and says the Hema
however they the people themselves
they seek out many calculations or many
reasons
So objectively speaking
human beings are pretty simple
but subjectively speaking the way that
we experience Being Human
uh we can
complicate it
what does that mean
it means
as I was saying before
um
Hashem
created us a certain way and we
understand why he created us that way
and he gave us the ability to
respond to adverse stimuli
and that's a good thing
now
sometimes
we get it wrong
you know we're not always a hundred
percent accurate in assessing a threat
or sometimes we assess a threat and then
we realize that it's not a threat but
it's better
to be safe than sorry it's better to be
a little bit more Vigilant and then once
you've
determined that it's safe so you could
dismiss it and you move on so that's a
good thing
so it's not so complicated
really not so complicated
my maker gave me this wonderfully
sophisticated system
that for my own benefit freaks out from
time to time it's not a bug it's a
feature
okay it's not so complicated
however
like King Solomon says God made a simple
we complicate it what happens what
happens
if we don't understand this if we don't
understand that this is the way that our
maker and His Infinite Wisdom designed
us the Mind Body package
we start to search for
a coherent narrative
to explain why we're feeling the way
we're feeling we love narratives we love
stories we love explanations that's what
human beings do
they always want to figure out patterns
well why is something this way what's
the cause what's the effect
and uh
we're not that good at it sometimes we
don't distinguish between correlation
and causation but we're comforted by it
we find it comforting to have an
explanation
so for instance
Maybe
my heart is pounding and I'm sweating
and my stomach isn't digesting food very
well because my blood is being pumped to
my legs so I can run and it's being
diverted from my digestive organs
because that's of secondary importance
according to my
built-in god-given alarm system
and and the reason is just because there
are some
cues in my environment that are telling
my survival mechanism that hey it might
be good to pay attention and just make
sure that you're safe
that's that's not so complicated that's
simple
now we'll talk about later I think not
tonight about when the alarm system is
broken
okay but but for now let's just talk
about the fact that
um
the the reaction the physiological
reaction
is not such a mystery it's really it's
not such a mystery what happens though
is
Hashem made us simple and we seek many
calculations we seek
these complex narratives which in our
mind
make
this situation more understandable and
therefore feel more comforting but
actually what are we doing we're driving
ourselves insane what do we do
we say aha
I know why I'm going into fight or
flight mode
it's because
and we give ourselves a reason
now one of the ways that you can tell
that these reasons are not valid
if you get good at it you can start to
release right away they're not they're
not valid but even if you're a beginner
one way that you can sort of sense that
these reasons are not so valid
is
what we call stacking
it's what we call stacking
that I'm feeling
anxious
I'm having physiological symptoms of
being not at ease
and then I start thinking
oh you know what it is
it's uh my credit cards are due tomorrow
okay maybe yeah maybe that is it maybe
that is why you woke up with a
stomachache is because your credit cards
are due tomorrow I don't think that's
really it because why'd you wake up with
the stomach right but
let's say maybe that's it but then you
wait another half a minute
my credit cards are due tomorrow
and
I have a meeting at work with a very
difficult client and I'm really dreading
that
so you start stacking
and
we're out of milk we're out of milk
and when am I going to get the milk
and up and now and
I'm late for work and
I'm having a bad hair day and whenever
you said you just start stacking and
some of them are big things some of them
are little things
so what is that clear clearly an
indication of okay
none of those are the reason those are
explanations so I'm my my body is in a
state of of
fight or flight and then which is a
simple thing it's a survival thing but
my powerful powerful human brain starts
seeking explanations and the problem is
I believe those explanations and then
those become very
um beloved bedtime stories
those stories that I write and I
literally mean bedtime stories because
you're trying to fall asleep right
normally bedtime stories are stories
that are told to soothe the child to go
to sleep these are
the opposite these are the stories we
keep ourselves up with at night
and instead of realizing that maybe I'm
just over stimulated maybe I just need
some chamomile tea and I need a hot
shower and they need to get into bed and
they need to turn off the lights I need
to put away the screens instead of that
what do I do
I start using This Magnificent machine
to stack all of these narratives these
stories about why I am freaked out
and in some perverse way I find that
comforting
because it's an explanation we love
explanations
rather than just saying you know what
I'm wound up right now maybe I need to
drink more water maybe I need to get
more exercise maybe I need medication
but
I'm not really stressed because of all
these stories I'm telling myself I'm
telling myself I'm telling myself this
story is because I'm stressed
you follow what I'm saying
so if that's the case
and so often it is
this is why one of our two urbanic
opinions tells us when you have a worry
on the heart
ignore it
don't think about it yes
averted from your mind
because it's not the real reason anyway
you're not going to get anywhere
remember
we were talking about the difference
between responding to stimuli in our
immediate environment and anxiety about
something that is not in the Here and
Now
not something I can react to
Abe worrying about the loan that's due
tomorrow morning
I guess now Morris is worrying about it
so in in that case
there's nothing productive with that
story the story is a fantasy
the story is actually taking us out of
if there were
any
productive action course of action to be
to be pursued at this moment and
sometimes there's not but even if there
were the story is taking us away from
that because the story is a projection
about a future
and then there's a whole other
discussion which is the flip side of the
same coin which are when you stay up at
night cringing
about all the embarrassing moments from
your past that you're sure that everyone
in the world
still talks about
regularly right
so but that's that's the same thing
that's what one is
looking in the past the other one is
looking in the future either way there's
not anything you can do to be re to
react and to be to be productive about
something that either took place in the
past or may or may not take place in the
future okay so again these are stories
they're not actual
they're not actual realities they're not
happening now these are Stories We Tell
ourselves if if it's about the past then
that's regret and resentment if it's
about the future then we call it anxiety
and worry but either way those are
Stories We Tell ourselves but again
we're not stressed because of the story
we're telling ourselves the story
because we're stressed
so like again like I'm saying maybe you
need to drink more water and we all do
and maybe you need to cut down on screen
time and we all do and maybe you need to
go on a on a news fast for a month
I promise you the same craziness will be
going on a month from now you could go
on a news fast for a month
um or
maybe you need to minimize
uh unnecessary
um interactions that you're having with
people who are who are
who are uh not safe people maybe that
maybe that's the source of it I mean
there's a lot of things maybe you need
to be doing to minimize stress in your
life but
the story that we're telling ourselves
at night when we can't sleep is usually
not the real story
and the best proof of it is
these stories usually have nothing that
you can do about them
you know you know the difference between
anxiety and fear
I mean in in English the way they use
these terms anxiety and fear but it's
it's a Biblical concept
anxiety and fear
when when the Jews came out of Egypt
so you know the story I mean I'm
assuming once a year at least you get
together at the Passover seder and you
read the Maxwell House and you know
about the whole story about coming out
of
Egypt right okay
so you know seven days after The Exodus
there was a splitting of the sea right
okay so during the splitting of the sea
there's a song that Moses and the Jewish
people sank
and in this song
one of the things they speak about is
how at that point in history
the whole world was in awe of the Jewish
people because they'd just been
miraculously redeemed from slavery
coming out of the most powerful nation
in the world and there were ten plagues
and then
they came to the Sea and there was a
splitting of the sea which was also
miraculous and it was miracle that the
whole world knew about
so the term that's used there and
actually those who pray three times a
day know that this is actually part of
our morning prayers we we say this
poetry which is actually from the book
of Exodus from the Parsha of bashalach
so we say the words
of a Fahad that the I'll translate it as
the dread and the fear of the Jewish
people at that point uh fell upon the
people around them so what's what's the
difference between these two words AMA
and
so Rashi tells us the foremost
commentator and he bases this on the
words of the michelta which is he says
that Emma
isma is felt regarding things that are
far
and is felt about things that are close
and it proceeds to explain that there
were Nations that were nearby that were
in the path that the Israelites were
taking so they had they actually saw
these Legions coming and for them it was
a response to stimuli other nations
heard reports of this they saw it on the
news
so they had Emma it wasn't happening in
their lives but they knew what was going
on in the world and they related to it
being a human being you relate to that
kind of stimulus and then what do you do
you put yourself into that narrative
so very simple AMA and so if there is a
dog barking
in front of your house and you and you
don't see an owner around and yet you
don't recognize the dog and you have to
go outside that's now the dog may be
safe the dog may not be safe but you'll
make a decision and that decision is a
productive decision you'll figure out
what to do so that's helpful
but let's say you heard about on the
news that in California a wild dog got
out and bit a girl
and now you're stressed
and being a human being with that
powerful mind you created a narrative
you project yourself into that narrative
but there's nothing productive to
respond to there's nothing happening in
your environment there's nothing
happening there are no actual stimuli
that you need to respond to for any
productive purpose
so there that's the difference between
fear and anxiety the aim on the pocket
is fear that's productive
there's a threat you have to assess the
degree of the threat and make
a productive decision
that's fear
Emma anxiety
is about something you can't really see
you can't touch you can't hear you heard
about it you heard reports you heard
secondhand reports third hand reports
and your real response to it is coming
from your meditation and yes I call it a
meditation you're going through in your
mind
sometimes we call it the museum
the museum in your head that you visit
and you're the curator and you've
designed those exhibits
to be very uh powerful they evoke very
strong emotions
this Museum this is the museum that you
go visit one in the morning two in the
morning three in the morning
the museum to your
to your suffering to your
ah
to your complicated life
Okay so
it makes sense then
that at least according to one rabbinic
opinion King Solomon's wisdom is if
that's what's going on
forget about it
it's not real
if it were pahad meaning if it were an
actual response to something in your
life
then respond to it and make a decision
if there's someone you got to get away
from there's something you got to get
away from someone you got to speak to
someone you got to confront fight flight
whatever it may be okay that's
productive that'll keep you safe
but I'm talking about one in the morning
two in the morning three in the morning
your intense emotional reaction is to a
movie
that you're playing in your head
so in that case the sage advice of King
Solomon at least according to one of the
rabbinic opinions to Reb Ami is forget
about it
don't reason with it
because it can't be reasoned with
because it's not actually logical
you know there's a there's an old
Yiddish expression
of a massive frequency and caches you
can't ask story you can't ask a question
on a story Jews love to ask questions
everything we ask a question we
challenge because that's how we learn
that's how we learn ask a question but
there's an expression Yiddish you don't
ask a question on a story and what that
means is if somebody tells you a story
and you say oh why did he say that and
by the way when I say a story I
primarily mean a real story
story that happened true story
so if someone tells you a story you
don't stop and say oh why did he say
that
what do you mean why did he say that's
what he said that's what happened right
so you don't ask questions on stories
it's just that's just what happened if
somebody
explains an idea you could ask them a
question because maybe the idea is valid
maybe it's not valid maybe you want to
give them pushback so that they should
explain the idea they should prove the
idea they should argue in defense of the
idea but stories you don't give pushback
in a story the story is the story you
understand what I'm saying you know you
don't argue with a story
that's what these stories are
they're just stories you can't argue
with them
you can't
you can't actually get anywhere
by asking yourself
well really why me
why is my life so uniquely messed up in
that particular way like that
like let's say you really lean into it
and and you decide to like
have a sit down with that abusive voice
in your head that's telling you about
how your life is
falling apart in a thousand different
ways faster than you can possibly
run around and pick up the pieces
there's nothing productive to respond to
that voice and say well yeah explain to
you know why why is that why why why is
my life so messed up why me
doesn't go any why me is a rhetorical
question there's no there's no real
answer and they because the only answer
is
I don't know it's a good narrative that
satisfies your
your overdeveloped human thinking brain
when you're in a state of stress and you
just need to come up with an explanation
for it and so then this satisfies oh
that's why that's why I'm that's why I'm
stressed out
but they're they're not legitimate
explanations and therefore
at least according to one rabbinic
opinion
just dismiss it
and and you know the way the mind works
it's interesting
um
there's a rabbinic
metaphor or a I guess a an analogy of a
mill I don't know how many people
nowadays have actually seen a mill but
you know the bread that we eat comes
from flour and flour comes from grain
and the way that they turn grain into
flowers through it through a mill so you
put the the coarse kernels in the mill
and a wheel turns and it crushes the
kernels and then separates
the the edible part
and it creates flower so the metaphor is
that
whatever you put
into the mill if you put barley kernels
into the mill
so you're going to get barley flour if
you put wheat kernels into the mill
you're going to get wheat flour okay
whatever you put in is what you're going
to get and the mill is always turning it
won't stop it doesn't stop
that
is the human mind
what you put in it is what you get out
and it doesn't stop doesn't stop
so it's interesting
action can stop you can stop doing
things you can just freeze
speech you can stop you can stop talking
thought you can't stop thought's going
to keep going
and if you keep on loading in or queuing
up the suffering story
which is your narrative to explain why
you're sweating and your stomach's tight
and your throat is tight and
so you're going to get more and more of
your reaction to that story and it
starts to become a uh a vicious cycle
so then what are you supposed to do stop
the mill you can't stop it
so what do you do you load something
else in it distraction
distraction now distraction is a
double-edged sword you got to be very
careful with your distraction
because if you're not aware that this is
a a tool
um a tool that you should be using it
actually ends up becoming an addiction
that uses you
when you realize that the uh incessant
yapping of the word brain that's trying
to assign meaning to your physiological
responses when you realize that that
is not a real
intelligent
story that actually has to be responded
to okay so then you can distract
yourself intelligently and say let me go
do something else hopefully something
productive maybe go do a project maybe
go help somebody or at the very least a
benign form of distraction go read a
book okay when you don't realize that
when you don't realize that
and it's just like this terrible
Jackhammer noise they're doing
construction in front of your house for
the past month and you don't know when
they're going to go away you said when
are you guys leaving and they said we
don't know until the job is done and
there's a jackhammer going off in front
of your house for a month and it's two
months and three months how can you live
like this so what are you gonna do you
start turning up the stereo full blast
and you're blasting music right because
you're trying not to hear the Jackhammer
and and you still hear it and so
you just start banging pots and pans and
you start shooting off firecrackers and
doing everything you can to try to drown
it out
that that's when you don't realize
what's happening so what do we do
what do we do
we try to drown out the unpleasant
reactions that our body is having
through
distractions which
and in in some ways this this itself is
the definition of addiction
distractions which come to be identified
in our lives as our main problem in life
but which are actually our best
misguided attempt at a solution to our
real problem
so I start blasting the stereo to try to
cover up the jackhammer
I'll just use the metaphor
eventually my life becomes dysfunctional
because I'm blasting a stereo so I
identify that's my problem as I just
keep blasting the stereo no actually
your problem is that you're freaked out
by the Jackhammer and when you
discovered at some point in your life
that blasting the stereo distracts you
from that
for an evening and then becomes for half
an evening and then it becomes for an
hour dimensioning diminishing returns as
is any addiction because you just get
used to it okay and then you all of a
sudden you you identify well my problem
is I'm blasting the stereo no your
problem is that you are blasting the
stereo because you couldn't handle the
Jackhammer and let me just say what I'm
really saying is that you go through
life with a pit in your stomach
because maybe you're a sensitive person
or maybe you had trauma who knows it
doesn't matter the point is or maybe
you're just living in
this generation where there's too much
stimuli okay whatever it is so you're
going through life with a pit in your
stomach and then you realize that lots
of screen time numbs you out from that
and distracts you from that okay or a
chemical a drinking it numbs you out
from that and then distracts you from
that or drama that's the the biggest
addiction that people get into with
drama yeah getting into other people's
addictions saving the codependent drama
right so but whatever it is
and then that becomes the thing it's
your undoing oh my whole life's falling
apart because I can't stop whatever the
addiction is the the gambling the
pornography the the drinking the drama
the whatever no that was you trying your
best to drown out something that was
making you uncomfortable
Okay so
he's blasting the stereo because the
Jackhammer is making him uncomfortable
so
what we're saying is
that
God made us very simple
but we complicate it with our narrative
God gave us a survival mechanism
that sometimes makes our bodies
uncomfortable it's supposed to it's an
effective alarm it gets your attention
okay
I have tinnitus people go to my Tanisha
know this because I've talked about it
in my time this year Monday morning's
here in uh
this very Library Liberty on Central
Avenue in
Cedarhurst
you're all invited
I've spoken about it in the Tanya share
and I guess people watch online the time
you should know about this as well I
have tended to some people pronounce it
tinnitus it's actually it's pronounced
tinnitus it's a constant ring in the ear
I've had it for a few years had it for a
few years
um I know what it is
I know exactly what it is
it's an alarm
it's my body trying to get my attention
okay
um
now
it's it's awful it is
extremely unpleasant but at least I know
what it is
imagine if I went and I tried to
discover more numbing activities which
was my go-to response in the past when I
was younger that's what I thought worked
imagine if now at 48 I would go try to
discover some more numbing things to do
to distract myself from the tinnitus and
I didn't even know that that's what I
was doing I was just doing it sort of
reactively and then that becomes the new
problem because in order to drown out
the unpleasant stimulus you go and you
find that new distraction and then the
distraction takes over your life and
starts
causing uh problems in your life so
I don't like having it but I know what
it is it's an alarm system my body's
trying to get my attention
my body's trying to get my attention
maybe there are things that I need no
not maybe there are things I need to do
to take better care of myself
and and it'll it'll go away and I'll get
a handle on it I'll be okay I got to
take care of this mind-body package that
God gave me I've got to take care of it
a little bit better and it'll go away
but it's just an alarm it's not an enemy
it's just an alarm Okay and
that's what we have to know when the
alarm goes off whether it is literally
something that sounds like an alarm I
have this in my ear literally 24 7.
although when I'm teaching interestingly
enough it generally gets really really
quiet because this is what I'm
comfortable by the way interesting now
that I'm talking about the fact how
comfortable I am up here
now you realize why I go on for too long
because this is why I'm good this is
where I'm this is my therapy over here
but no I'll tell you something
interesting uh I hope it's interesting
to you
I am never not nervous before going on
I've spoken thousands of times literally
thousands of times and the crowd's much
much bigger than this crowd
um and yet every single time including
tonight a second before I come on I'm
nervous and it's I feel it's a
physiological thing it's I I got a
stomach ache my throat gets hot and
tight stomach is cold throw this is hot
a lot of other symptoms and it's very
uncomfortable and then I get up here and
I start talking and I'm fine
so tell me about aemon tell me about
anxiety and fear
what was what was unmanageable
not the experience itself
the anticipation of the experience right
as long as it was the aim as long as it
was the anticipation of something that's
going there which I can't control
because it's not happening now so what
am I supposed to do like say a talk
better that I haven't started delivering
I can't there's nothing to do yet and
that's why it's so painful and there's
it
it causes so much so much disruption but
at least I know what it is I don't have
the secret to make it go away but at
least I identified I know what it is
then once I'm up here
I don't really have any problems because
now now there's there are things that I
can do I I'm looking in the room I'm
reading the room I'm looking at eye
contact I'm looking at people's own out
look at how much people are looking at
their phones and and I'm adjusting you
don't know there's thousands of
adjusting adjustments that go on while
I'm talking to a group like this to make
sure that we're connecting even though
I'm kind of monopolizing the
conversation but I'm it is it is a
conversation and it is two-way and I am
reading stimuli that you're projecting
toward me and I'm making adjustments and
therefore I'm comfortable because I'm in
a setting where there's something I can
do
but a second before I get up here
there's nothing I can do and therefore
I'm sick with worry
now I don't know how to make that go
away yet at least not at this stage in
my development but I know what it is
I know what it is
just my body
trying to be helpful
okay so that's why the narrative
that we assign to the physiological
responses is just so dumb
and you want to go write novels you want
to be a fiction writer go ahead but
don't make fiction novels about your
stomachache and then start stacking
issues to be freaked out about and put
yourself to bed every night with that
story just just don't
okay
we mentioned there's another
interpretation
you're lucky there's only two usually
they say two Jews three opinions so
so we had rev Ami and we have revasi Ami
said
remove it from your mind avert it from
your mind as he says
speak it out Converse about it with
others
so which one is which I mean which one
is right which one should you do
there's a reason why one comes before
the other
first reaction is dismiss it
because it's not the real cause of your
discomfort right now
it's a story that you made up about your
discomfort which matches roughly matches
your discomfort but it's not the real
cause so forget about it
go do something different
okay I can't I can't it's incessant it's
pervasive
I'm ruminating I can't stop
okay fine so in that case
speak it out to somebody else
in that case if you try to avert your
mind from it
and you know what it is and you know
that it's not the real problem
but it's consuming your thoughts okay so
go speak it out with somebody
but again see
this this is so important
in the first case I ignored it because I
knew the story wasn't the real problem
story was just
a mythology a personal mythology to
explain a phenomenon which actually has
a very simple explanation
my body's freaked out because my my
because my Creator made me have that
built-in nervous
system to respond to to what it thinks
may be adverse stimuli okay that's the
real reason the mythology is it's
because my wife my kids my job
that's the mythology okay so I try to
dismiss that can't dismiss it but I know
I should because I know it's not valid
but I can't dismiss it fine you can't
dismiss it go speak to somebody but
please when you go speak to somebody
please don't forget
that this narrative you're going to
share with them is still not the real
reason why you uncomfortable
that that was it's very interesting
because time moves very slowly and time
moves very fast
in my lifetime and again I'm repeating
the fact I am not a psychologist I'm not
a mental health professional
um
but as a outside Observer of the field
it is fascinating how in my lifetime
certain axioms have radically shifted
specifically about how productive it is
to explore these stories
specifically in regards to how
productive is to to explore these
stories
a hundred years ago certainly when when
Freud was the predominant model
they couldn't get enough of these
stories and whatever story you came in
with oh no we're going to go deeper and
deeper and deeper and we're going to
keep on finding
hidden layers of the story we'll go back
to your toilet training literally I'm
not saying it to be uh to be glib
and today
we realize
or at least there's much more of an
accepted view becoming
increasingly uh mainstream
that many times
talk is not going to get us out of this
we're not going to talk our way out of
it
we're not going to talk our way out of
it
the alarm system is going off
so you created a story why the alarm
system is going off because it's easier
than in a weird way than admitting that
you need more sleep you need more water
you need less screen time you need to
get a new job whatever it is okay
but the the stories
aren't the reason for our discomfort and
talking more and more and more and more
about the stories
is not going to relieve our discomfort
okay so then why do we talk about it
then go back to the first opinion forget
about it can't forget about it okay so
talk about it why why should I talk
about you told me it's not productive it
is productive well now you're confusing
me okay
you should talk about it not because the
story is the real problem
I'm gonna have to explain to you
the way that siddis
explains this passage of talmud
explaining King Solomon's wisdom okay
three layers of rabbinical explanation
there's a safer compiled by the lab
and the entry for Hoff hey Sivan the
25th day of the Hebrew month of seven
which is the month of my birthday it's
like four days away from my birthday
it's almost my birthday
um it says this passage in the talmud
machlaikus avert your mind from it speak
it out to others
and it adds an Insight from the tamak
sadik who was the third Chabad
it was the grandson of the balotanya
again for those who come to the Monday
morning time this year
it's a little tie-in for you
explains what does it mean
explain it to others says
the Goof others only in the corporeal
sense in the bodily sense
but they are united with him
as inyone they feel they sense his
situation his matter
explains it perfectly
it's not about somebody who can hear
your story and decode it and say
something smart
that's not who you need
it's about empathy
it's about somebody who can feel what
you're feeling
and the empathy is therapeutic
it's interesting I think it was Carl
Rogers
who came up with the term unconditional
positive regard
he said that uh anyone here
yeah is that correct so Carl Rogers the
American psychologist he had a term
unconditional positive regard which
basically means that a therapist has to
always be on the side
of their patient unconditional positive
regard
um
so much so and I don't know if this is a
a contradiction or it's a support to
this but another American
psychologist Eric Byrne once said
no man is a hero to his wife's
psychiatrist
and
I I thought about that quite a bit
um
and I think what it means is he's saying
something similar to Carl Rogers which
is unconditional positive regard when
you're talking to me I'm on your side
it's like when you go to a lawyer
and that's it once I'm your client then
you're on my you know you're going to
see things my way
so
no man is a hero to his wife's
psychiatrist because if the psychiatrist
is doing his job he's on her side now
really if he's really on her side you
should want her to have a happy marriage
so he shouldn't vilify her husband but
that's a that's a tangent
um the point is
they studied
various different modalities of therapy
and what they found was
that to a large extent
they were all equally effective or
ineffective however you want to
describe it
and what really made a difference was
the
therapeutic connection the relationship
with the therapist when there was a
positive connection when the patient
felt that they had the unconditional
positive regard of the therapist so then
it would be productive whatever the
preferred modality of therapy chosen by
the therapist might be
so it wasn't so much the approach
it was the empathy
the love should ever tell the story
about
a shab he was the fifth
and he was actually a younger brother
and he became the rabbit his older
brother
did not become
the rabbit when they were little boys
they were playing
and you know some kids play cops and
robbers and uh Cowboys and Indians
but the the Rabbit shab and his brother
abdominarian what did they play when
they were playing they played rabba and
closet yeah
so
um
the older brother
told the younger brother who was about
five years old at the time
I'm going to be the rabbit because he
was the older brother so he got the got
the cool part I'm gonna I'm gonna be the
Devon you're gonna be the closet and
you're going to come into me
and uh we're gonna have you hit this a
one-on-one audience a meeting like
because it goes to a rabbit
so the younger brother plays his part
and he comes in he says
I need help
I ate nuts on Shabbos
what's wrong okay so the altered says
that it's better nuts that have shells
on them better not to eat them on
Shabbos because taking off the shells
could be selecting it's one of the 39
prohibited labors at any rate
that was his
it's very cute because that was his
example of a sin that was his example of
a problem right
that's what he could think of so he says
I ate uh nuts on Shabbos
so the older brother is playing that bit
and he says okay very well my son here
is your tikkun here's your rectification
your spiritual rectification
um
When you pray you should look in a
prayer book you should look inside the
words you should not say prayers by
heart you should concentrate on looking
at the printed words in the prayer book
from now on
and the younger brother says
what I do wrong
so
he says the younger brother says
as I read the effort
die for governor cracked
when a rabbit answers
he has to sigh
and you didn't size so you're not a
rabbit
it's not about
who has a smart answer for you
it's about empathy
it's about the person
who's gonna give a cracked who's going
to sigh who's gonna feel your pain
and when that happens
there is healing
the story was never the problem
the story was an assigned narrative
to try to explain away why my body is in
survival mode
if I can ignore the story and understand
that it's just a made-up story
that's the best if I can't
then at least let me say it to somebody
but the number one thing or perhaps the
only thing is the person who I choose to
hear this story
has to be empathetic
I don't need somebody who's a genius
who's going to hear the story and say
aha
you were right all along that is why
you're miserable now that's the worst I
I don't need that that's the last thing
I need
in fact I don't even need somebody
to say anything I don't need them to add
to my story or give an explanation of my
story
I just need them to absorb it and to
hear it and to feel it and there's
something intrinsically therapeutic and
healing just about that
because it was never the story to begin
with
okay so here we have
Hashem
two tools in one biblical verse
okay King Solomon tells us if you have a
worry in your heart those who want to
look it up this is mishlay Proverbs
chapter 12 verse 25 dog the Lev ish if
you have a worry in your heart
subjugated put it in its place what does
it mean put it in its place two opinions
forget about it go do something
productive call it what it is it's a
made-up story it's Hollywood magic the
khadam and the other one of Assi says
speak it out to others that explains
what means I hate him
people who are other only in the sense
that you don't you do not share the same
body by the way that is the paradox
that's the Paradox because otherwise
why does it even have to mention that
they are means others it seems here that
the whole point is that they're not so
much others they're they're they're
United with you
that's the Paradox the Paradox is
if I just needed someone who could feel
what I'm feeling I'd talk to myself
I feel what I'm feeling
how come it doesn't work
the Paradox is the validation
that someone who's not me
can feel for me
so it's the best of both worlds it's
it's not me
and yet they feel what I'm feeling and
they offer their empathy they're
non-judgmental empathy they don't have
to be eloquent they don't have to have
smart things to say they just have to be
empathetic and that itself is healing
okay so those are two tools that we have
for dealing with the anxiety
God willing we'll see you a week from
tonight we're going to talk more about
some of the other ways that anxiety
comes up and other approaches for
dealing with it