The Prohibition of Gid Hanasheh - When did it take effect? Shiur by Rabbi Nachum Scheiner

this week's Parish we find the is the LA of GHA I would have liked to speak on the da I was speaking to micham to try to see to find something but like the gar says so once again we'll speak on the parha I think it's a very nice concept we find the LA the the says but pasas we understand that the iser came about right here in why why is iter to us it'ser to us from this that we see in this week's at the time of theor theor at the end of says 613 mitzvas are so the sh is it's in there are three Mitzvah the first you open up a that counts through all thez the he has three that come out of the first one the second one and the third one over here so the says we got 63 mitzvas we already have a few from before our c maybe even more in let's focus now on there are three mitv that came before our so what does the G say 613 we got 610 three of them we got already Ines and then another 610 later by mat Tyra which means that the bris that we're doing now is the bris of our Mitzvah is the when we got in the times of so what does it mean that we got 613 mitzvas me so let's focus for a minute in the Mitzvah of GHA itself and then we'll see in general CL when exactly was the is of GHA so I began the Year by saying that the says that it happened now the truth is it's at the beginning of the per of if the why should it be by if we're getting the is of GHA and GHA we could only eat a so why is it relevant to says I'll tell you why because the isra came about in the times of Yu right now and they were allow to eat so it's relevant for that's and argue say no it's not KN why not because the came about says the Miss explains you know when did come about in the times of and they were all what does it mean meaning to say isar Rashi explains Rashi this that the PK says that I just read was said by har the story of har was later inro so the Mish says Rashi explains this P was said later in the time of M and it was stuck in back into our so you're going to be reading this was really said later by m and it was stuck into the par over here so what do we have what's what's the clear takeaway so far was given in the times of was given in time of that the gamar says that we got 613 Mitzvah we got the mitzvah we got the mitvah of we really got not before to elaborate a little bit more on this and to understand that it's not only g i I focused on a m that speaks about G but who said about thear Mak says all 613 Mitzvah is also like that per R all the mitz are also so the on that Miss says I'm going to read one or two lines inside says the r Focus the R's telling us that this that the mishna says over here says that it was the times of says the r i want to tell this m is not just a domestic this is [Music] a because the gave it to M and not because it was earlier any Mitzvah that we have all 613 mitzvas were only from SII nothing before all 630 mitv and the when we do a it's not because we found the you know where we have the because we got the MIT says the is is not because of what happened by is is what because we got that's what the says yes he's going in a very good point he's going on in he brings and then he says in he's going very the which is the because we got why are we saying that the Mitzvah is so that when we got the mitvah the Mitzvah was to do the BR ofu but the that we have the MIT R of bris is and then we're going to go more into focusing in GHA which is that's this week's in last week's she we spoke about my many different pointers but we began where is the where's the what's the source where did it come about one says and another M says that the brings a like if you take a look in the gamorra the gorah asks on the Mand that says from the that says that it's kban and thear may the gamor only asks one way the gamar asks the each has a like him but if you take a look in the only asks on the that that says that it's why doesn't the ask the other way as well both ways would be a each from the other says this that everything the r says that we have everything every says that we they agree that was M but why do we we because ofb the same like what the r says that by true we see it earlier but we we do it not some later let's go back now to the of the this is just on a side not let's go right back into of the r that it's really a came about we was stuck in later by when he gave us the the rash the r the r the beginning of the ram says this rambam we actually mentioned last week also the r goes through the history of theu says the ru was m and also the is of GHA the yak of so we like said that we got so what does the r say that was came about so that's in the back of the shapi Franco Ram he says like this he says that he was in just like by bris like I mean even if we have BR later and it's but had BR the same thing was G was already however the that we have is not that is it's a new and therefore of course doesn't have GHA because it's a brand new is to explain and to bring out the point and to elaborate on this concept what exactly happened in the event of times it was GHA then GHA now so the explains the following actually asks on the asks of the he wants to understand the of the thek says that's what does it mean and every is so what what is it over here the stress that the say what does it mean so says the following I'll go first to go to in the came about and the says that even though the which means it continues even after M and he was an how he calls it that was was it was a they were says the this of that was told the times of then came about so again the ramb says who we come about like the ra says and how explains it was a they were and the T says that that Min of is continued to Hari and then by har came a iser so what do we have over here so far before we continue what do we have very clear in this week's par the crystal clear that the is only came about in the times of however says theer there was still an is a minut of before with this of theha that has in from the he says that you know why we don't eat GHA says the we took upon us as a kapara how he says so to speak we left Yu alone we left stranded when he went himself and that's why the story happened that the Mal was fighting with that's what the story therefore as a we refrain from eating GHA just read thean he left what' you say he left left he got up and he left he left to go to get sounds like he snuck out I hear you're asking that it's not like that he asked people to come and we didn't join his from his family says we left that night by himself that's why this story happened had to fight with the Mal if we would have been there we would have been there to protect them he a saer called wrote a lot this safer that he wrote was a safer that he middle he was nft middle of writing this sa he wrote on the Mitzvah on Mitzvah gim he brings the mitvah of and he says we're all familiar with this that's the Mish that's the came about and then he brings that we just said that you know why we don't eat GHA you know why we don't eat GHA because of the story that happened the story that happened went and we didn't help we didn't go with that's and he says that's not why we we don't eat we don't eat because we got the Mitzvah from how no clear toha to says you know why we don't eat because a story that happened that's not what happened that's not why we have the is it's because we got it and just to elaborate a little bit of Kasha he doesn't bring the but it's [Music] a says very interesting says it's not a story what happened that in those days they decided to refrain from eating GHA says I'm not it's not a super story what happened and that's why they stopped eating no no no says the you know why we don't eat because told us Oni so that's what s's asking that the say see them says you know why we don't eat because of a story that happened that we need to do chva which would seem like what the saying not like that that's his Kasha that says that he was a not to eat throughout the generations like what we saw the r says we did get come about from Yu that which was a is like the says the reason for the because was left alone panu and Tak was a was a story and a minut however came M to then we got a ner so so far there's a very clear takeaway from everything we spoke told now that when we learned this week's in the times of already in even for sure the is came then and that's when it stayed but even was in already but like tells us it was a Min later on came in but not exactly is in that same cha like he wants to answer the we began that the ra says that the is came in the time of and the ra also says that it wasu so when did when was the is was it in the times ofu or did it only come in the times of says was then in the times of Yu and there is an iser in the time of says the times of a pure says the ra we only have Mitzvah from har true came har and we got the iser again it's a new iser in the times of was even now we got a brand new and in the times of say it's the seem like says that in the times of we were says that he was is in the times of Y but yet we got a brand new iser in the times this man in the time of of mat and [Music] Tyra why would there be a iser why would there be an iser in the times of yob a we understand a like we saw before the but why should there be an actual iser already in the times of yov you have to understand theud as well why would there be an iser so the as well as the rash R is the pram his P says and they explain V theha the reason why in because that's when it happened the reason for the is because what happened with the Mal because of the what happened happened with so the is came about already the time of Yu just on the notes of this point that the iser came about because it was in the times of yov these a discussion if the by a person about it speaks about it and he says it depends on the if's to eat so if the to eat B so then it's not relevant um because it's anyways aome but if it would be so then it would be a says the the dark brings a even if it would be to eat B of the you would still be an is of GHA by a person why because the story happened by a person so just to sum up to conclude a clear takeway and then I just want to end with a V relevant what we're speaking about the is that we have is is that we got that's clear that's what we that's ra says that's in history what happened before Hari so the rambam tells us already the history that already was BisMan we have the that tells us that it was a we have the that tells us that it was an but what we're know what we have the is of a of of GHA is an is that came and it's not only G it's all of the it's all Raa in this week's paraa asks the following Kasha we find that in every Nest that happened throughout the generations we have mitv to commemorate what happened we have mitz we have that we do to remember the that happened to remember now next week to Remember to Remember The Nest of the Mana we light the Mana we have mitzvas to remember very very interesting to remember what happened happened over here it's not a MIT say it's why is this different than anything else says Raa and and I want to just bring it out a little bit I'm going to read and then I'm going to say what Ra's teres but just to bring out the mus itself maybe you can ask a little bit still why is it different you look at it inside and this is this is a nice ver you could say over shabas a clear cash and a clear terret sayra I'm going to quote that says what's the of why is it lists out all the Mitzvah and he explains the reason for every Mitzvah what's the reason for says we're not so focused on it because it's only something that we don't have it's not like we have the G I mean in the olden days you have to take it out nicker to take it out today it's not because we don't need to whole back of the so we don't even get the but what's the reason to be busy taking out the G what is it to remind us that REM for cl that CL were going to be a lot ofus throughout the gas throughout the generations we're going to be rers throughout the generations it's a reminder that we're not we're here we're here to stay show you always G to be and not only that and we're going to come out m is going to come so this is what to remind us that even though we're going to go through a lot of sorus number one we're here to stay we're going to we're going to make it through we're going to make it through and that's the reason why we don't eat to remember very nice what does that commment to was fighting with which wasn't fight just a a little fight over there this was a fight of the wanted to put away so this is a this is a foris so the says you know why we don't eat to remember that for the generations to come there's going to be there's going to be Theseus and we're going to survive it and we're going to keep on going and M is going to be take us out you know to remember this is refraining from eating as opposed to all other that's become every Nest we were saved is a nest and we moved moved on this is not a nest and we moved on this is a constant battle a constant battle every single day we don't want any battle it's true when a person has it's but we don't we would rather not have yur we would rather not have an so it's true we have to remember this lesson but it's not that we want this we want this these torus throughout the generations it's something that even though we have Theus it's a lesson to tell us that we're going to last through Theus that's why eating G is different than all the other n that we remember the of when we went at at we had matah this that we want to remember something we would prefer not to have to remember this in other words we prefer to be out of the gas out of Theus being Yia and not need it so therefore it's true we need a reminder but the reminder is rather as opposed to we should be talk we should be what says that this lesson the Mitzvah of this week's par even though it's talking later but the lesson is the lesson like the says that even though and these we're going to make it through Theus and also we're going to to the have a wonderful shabas