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because credit cards
is until you're in it.
random credit cards
and next thing you know is
and the interest
minimum payments
guide nor towards the interest.
Um, so meaning that once you have a
credit card bill of $5 to $10,000, it's
going to take you, I don't know, 5 to 10
years
more to pay or the minimum. Some banks
could take 30 years.
>> 30 years. Like, so this is a huge trap.
Shout out to my own kala who made me pay
my own credit cards. Like I didn't have
much. You remember I called you. I told
you how much I had and I paid off two
credit cards because of that. Um, but
it's it's insane. like who's is this the
copst stick for the credit cards to
begin with or is it is it are why are
people following it for this like what's
for
>> well people fall for it for a variety of
reasons starting
>> pursuing pursuing you know points which
is extremely common
>> is they made it for that is the point
for them
>> the credit card companies
Yeah. Okay.
>> Okay.
>> But points
take just a percentage.
Take a percentage every time I use your
card.
So why the why mention an Aamian pickle?
Well, the short answer to that is yes in
the conversation Donald Trump is busy
with the same% interest.
>> Yeah. Is that a real thing? Like are we
can we expect that?
[clears throat]
>> Trump's
going to try to fight for it,
>> right?
>> But
you don't think it's going to happen?
>> No. Because I'll tell you a simple
reason why.
Oh, so mortgage is backed by%.
Yeah, SBA loans
real estate%
easy. So it was collateral meaning in
case
collection rate is extremely low.
This is a separate part of the
conversation as mention
and the reality plays out differently
for many people because
the credit card company.
So what ends up happening is a judgment
meaning the court's
bank $50,000
is the judgment act
which they sometimes exercise and
sometimes not
so technically speaking
decided upon the plug
>> right
>> so and was
I guess
any kind of income
wages and it gets
like it really doesn't work the way
people say it
>> the way people think as
Yeah,
>> you know, a lot of people do it
conscious decision.
Um,
>> so yeah, there's many times there's no
way out
firsthand.
You're talking about mentioning
rental properties
in the bank assets
legit
regulations,000
equity
over a certain number.
cases
credit card
>> credit cards lines of credits you know
again it wasn't intentional
relatively
>> right
>> business
necessarily in net profit revenue
credit cards meaning
not something that you know I would say
and mention was running legitimate
businesses
whatever I've grown the business I've
grown
It's very
reality,
right? Yeah.
eventually
but as long as a cash flow business so
it's very different like my business is
basically
first of the month
like
floors right
construction some portions in days
let's slice and whatever and I tell him
sometimes I tell him I just feel bad for
you like
the construction industry
business. So I think that people should
be conscious and aware of what they
could control that when they go into a
business
especially
like I don't think guilt generally
speaking is a good thing unless you
really know how you're going to like
unless you back it up in the S&P 500
>> unless you back up the problem in the
moment
is the next home run
you're a fan of borrowing money in
general.
>> So that I write the question the short
answer to that is when it makes sense
most definitely.
>> Mhm.
>> Why not?
Rough businesses that I'm familiar with
to some extent operate a line of credit.
>> But ultimately this all of this works
the business. The problem is as any
business at best is a cycle. So
the edge
as soon as the business
was
construction
sometimes for three years, sometimes for
15 years,
right? The lucky ones.
Yeah. The [laughter]
unlucky ones.
number one
coach,
>> right?
>> You know, you know, obviously supercious
because you don't have a choice
otherwise
are the ones that are fortunate.
Shine is obviously relative. Well, right
lifestyle creep
and this is true.
Yeah. up to I would say the million
dollar range
where do I so what does what does that
tell me right
>> as this is a never ending game
>> right so I want to pause for a second um
let's clarify that Friedman we never
made an introduction here and the and I
love how it's going with a million
questions. Um, but Yoli Freiedman here.
Um, I I think I got to know you cuz I
because you helped me or something with
my own credit cards, going through the
numbers and offset minimum payment,
making sure that I pay it when I had a
question what to do and it was very
helpful
and he gave us an honest opinion.
Sometimes you want to fill a charge in
guilt like
before people start reaching out. We can
talk about it. Yeah. Um but you're just
out there to help passion. So you do
basically I think right now you're
involved in three things. So the um
health budgeting
mention budgeting at this at this time.
>> Um no mentions budgeting professionals
professionals. Okay. Number two is the
biz getting the credit cards. So if
somebody needs to open a credit card or
settle a credit card,
>> I'll tell you the
credit cards for the most part
I know it very well. Okay.
>> And I would say at this point mostly
friends and friends of friends and
friends
please help
because I don't take it
for the most part.
>> Okay. So what what do you do? Do you do
insurance?
>> Okay.
>> At this point
business
and unfortunately the credit cards as
much as
60 years old.
Wow. How about 80 years old?
stories that constantly happen
and they come after you the the credit
card companies
>> if they go after 80 year olds.
>> Yeah.
>> Like they go after you for owning
meaning
because airfield guilty
how these things play out.
No, I'm
>> saying but maybe he got a notice or
something. Maybe
And a lot of these people,
they have no idea what
Right. Unless
Okay. Point the right direction.
Yeah,
whatever advice gave. Yeah, it's
somebody could have given her 25 years
ago.
And run me through it. What happens? He
called the credit card debt of what?
Debt of $50,000.
>> $20,000. $20,000
minimum payments
of social security
scary
anyway is forced uh It says some sort of
agreement of the settlement,
you know, mention
dollar in the bank
judgement and somehow they picked up on
it and the guilt,
right? So they credit card companies,
they don't back down. They don't stop
for anybody. Um so before we get to
credit cards which is what people do
usually when they are in debt or they
don't know is let's get to the of
knowing which is budgeting which I got
to say
but I started doing it actually
please book a session
actually upset of him.
So guys, urge him to come up, but I know
he's busy. No, no,
he's gonna let me know. But he's a great
guy. I work with somebody on his team.
It changed my life like night and day.
And I'll tell you why.
And you know in the meeting
like okay so
extra podcast yeah extra vlog like the
host income
you got to do more
unconsciously
that doesn't work what works is if you
have a list ofman income is and spending
is so oh I just gave give you a shout
out is in the house. So
to the solutions and how much it helped
me
solutions free shout out but we should
he's he's good at what he does
>> and he's probably the only one
>> he's not the only one with compel
the podcast who does it who see he does
it more for like lidisha couples and
whatever
>> honestly to do a dime a dozen at this
point because Dave Ramsey
advice was Davis simple strategy it's a
onepoint strategy spend less
have more.
>> Right. Right.
Problem is
the bank. Why? Why would he not? Okay.
Spent hand is a tradeoff. Wasn't a
trade-off.
Yeah,
>> that's $2 that you're not going to be
able to spend later on.
Now again, I know that this conversation
because when you start telling a person
cucumbers.
>> But the reality is this was
being in the insurance business
many millions of dollars a year.
>> Yeah.
>> [snorts]
>> So continue [laughter]
right. So um
you know
business
But
how it ends up playing out unfortunately
cases
extremely conscious of the spending.
>> Yeah.
S&P invest life insurance
never ended up happening.
budget sheet
$330,000
>> by many accounts income.
>> But kick off the bottom line. Bottom
line cost 350.
>> Wow.
>> Anyways, this was a conversation for a
while back and forth and was almost to
the point
sign us off. You you blew your budget
with $20,000 last year. You'll blow it
with 32 this year,
>> right?
>> But get into the habit
>> as a as a, you know, long story
short,000.
>> Wow.
Last time I saw it,
what suddenly happened?
The answer to that is
right.
Right.
>> And and there's
the only way
realistically
it's not going to change much. Why?
Because
lifts
above the basic threshold
earner.
>> Right. Right. So because
I grew up with my mentors mention Bob
Proctor, Steve Harvey, Philip Trump, you
know
first class because
successful so mentioned confusing days
like
positive approach towards money spend
Right.
So this is pure math.
>> Exactly.
Yeah. So we also were conflicted
positive mention that
question.
>> Yeah.
>> I learned that to distinguish between
wealth and the transaction of money, the
tool of money. basically well I need to
build more and more and be in the
abundance of wealth
and the the tool even rich people always
buy the price because the tool the money
is just a tool. So I need to spend less
in the money but creating wealth
created wealth drive down the dollar
amount wealth
is cost.
>> Yeah. It's a very good answer.
>> This is the concerns they
like
recklessly.
line right
>> and then again
over the years I'm sure peace of mind
of mind
reasonable solutions to their problem
actually
[laughter]
the car network is going to flip
Everything on its head,000
net worth 200,000 network
and and that's really how it should be
and that's the only way that it's going
to end up happening. But
mentioned
was
they got over it
probably never made more than $150,000
in a single year. Okay.
>> Last I spoke with him was
half million investment account. Half a
million dollars.
Right.
So
>> you're saying it's an art to be able to
save and be responsible with your money
art that Yes. But it's a responsibility
spouses
of Instagram. [laughter]
Exactly.
Combined weekly income,000
combined monthly income.
>> [clears throat]
[laughter]
>> of a deal.
He doesn't know the first thing. Do you
realize
boxes. Whatever kind of boxes
of
whatever.
So,
wow.
on average
the average family, six, seven kids,
>> right?
>> It's simply unsustainable,
>> right?
>> By any means. So is lucky enough,
but let's let's say,
>> right? So there's a numbers. So let
let's say the guy that makes $200 to
$600,000 a year.
>> Okay,
>> relatively
across the board and ask people that
make this kind of money.
and
we have nothing to show for it,
right?
There is a trick in the problem.
Mhm.
>> So
family
$100,000 you almost don't stand a chance
regardless
realistically
but
these are not the people was I guess
direct the conversation towards Right.
>> Relatively successful.
Wow.
So as a family you're lucky enough to
shine
peace of mind peace of mind as the
business slow
the the business change.
The only way to do that is by being
super conscious about every dollar that
gets spent.
certain plots
talking about 50y old people.
>> Mhm.
>> I know nothing about this guy.
Okay.
Million check. I can't as a matter of
fact half a million dollar check
people will lend me money because yeah
half million
$15 million of income
change.
>> But what does that tell you? That tells
you that this guy's cost of living is
close to whatever he earns plus.
>> Correct.
>> So,
right. So, meaning based off of the type
of business that you're in.
And this is a guy that's making real
good money by all accounts, right?
$50,000,000
every dollar50
$60,000 a month.
I'm going back fame, but not not on this
level.
solutions. That's why they have the
every
is a brutal a brutal conversation for
any couple,000
web media is already successful. is
going to become more successful.
>> You'll you'll find yourself in the same
place because I I find that most people
are like that.
No as life just it's called lifestyle
creep as it catches up to you.
>> It's endless.
I have zero ego in
the change.
>> Exactly. But also going to put ideas
because I want people to also share
these things is
if you're a friend or a family member is
36 yet I don't care
you know
but donations
personal account it's a set number
obviously if it's a close one or
whatever but I'm
at the end of the day.
Yeah.
With eating out, people don't like
average restaurant.
This is Gish
have a salad. I buy a salad. I buy a
salad and a soup
>> and one dessert. That's $100.
The drinks the stakes. I don't need all
of that. Salad and steak is tax.
So actually I feel
my lifestyle and everything grows. But
downgrade my next genesis.
Yeah. [cough]
[clears throat]
[laughter]
parking lot.
>> Not even.
Not so long.
Genesis X in the dollar
67 67
>> 67
[laughter]
expenses is about to go up by a whole
subject
in the gas.
>> [snorts]
>> the average car. the Genesis
for the Genesis.
The rest
>> Mercedes
over the gases.
The average car
[laughter]
now.
Westgates
breaks down.
[laughter]
Yeah.
>> Okay. But the the mindset
average describes the poor and the
thousand the days what am I doing right
or wrong
but okay
>> yeah
exactly but let's take a structure let's
budget my my lifestyle
right or wrong.
I don't know enough about you, but
meetings
Grand Toyota Highlander which is right.
You understand
should should be a part of the
conversation.
>> Now what is the smart way to go about
the cheapest car that that you can
function in? Now
money problem,
but you're trading
$250,
$250.
Okay. So
expenses
translate
whatever but but anyway no I don't think
like I didn't see much changing besides
rent yes that is a big one Right.
Endless, right? Okay.
But but I'm saying
like personally
in in upstate
respectfully.
[clears throat]
Yeah, but this is my vehicle.
I'm not I'm sorry. I'm not buying it,000
escalate. Next
$36,000
income, right? So, what's wrong with
that?
>> What's wrong with that?
Yeah, 100%.
Every dollar
expenses. Can I ask Can I ask you a
question?
>> Okay.
Next.
>> Next. Okay. 20 years ahead. Vival
hopefully five and 15, right? Yeah.
>> Okay. Good.
um
as long as the system changed somehow is
going to cost you an arm and a leg,
right?
intuitions and in days cost to the right
amounts and guilt. Now, if Weber media
keeps growing forever,
mindset manifest.
>> The problem is that it in almost all
cases doesn't play out that way. Reality
is
>> in in life catches on to you in the
extremely extremely tight in guilt which
could very well happen not to you but it
happens to everyone, right? Right.
There's no point in cutting.
You're making a couple hundred thousand
a year. Till what? Till when do you want
to work? Till when do you want to be
forced to work?
Fine.
Mhm.
>> probably, right?
Hypothetically,
real estate properties.
>> Driving the Let's take a step back.
So, so, so I get the question and the
short answer to that is
fraction.
Income. And I always tell this to
people.
real estate. Although again cash flow a
million dollar a year real estate
probably is assume that's a healthy
portfolio but we've seen this time and
time again
portfolios we can unit million
has nothing
deals
is wiped out. So we're not even going to
talk about that because
reasonably you can expect as a guy
no problem escalates.
The funny part is that those people
don't take escalates. They man was
collecting a million dollar in rental
income with escalates in many cases but
they man sure
but that's not the realistic scenario in
almost all cases.
So basically
over
the fact
of living
aost
meaning.
>> Right.
>> Right. You're saying the 90% of 95%
>> well over 90
>> are right probably 95% of people uh
>> fall into the category. So we had the
conversation how does 80%
20% of mentions and a financially fully
financially stable aid
>> I I highly doubt that I think I think
generous numbers once a percent
for them [laughter]
>> then then you're probably about right
>> but uh but
95% of people
>> that are
it goes south at any point,
right?
Construction guyes.
>> So, what do people overspend the most?
>> I'm I'm not even gonna get into that.
I'll tell you why. Because like I said
earlier,
a half million dollar a year
in a certain number and beyond that
almost
liked. Now when I mention liked and like
they never find themselves in a place
where they enjoy their money. So I tell
people
Haven
this was uh
on a case by case basis clearly in in
many many cases invest in the guilt
but yeah sure I get the investment in
that opinion
what do you think if I have to say yes
or no I would say more no than yes
>> why
>> although
it worked out wonderfully
especially market
investment.
And you know what? Like I said, many
people get lucky, but for
>> just for
an alternative
rental unit for $3,500,000
mortgage,000
was last,000.
>> [laughter]
>> again.
Let's see.
to equal outcome,000
again.
No, there's a chance
two-bedroom apartment,000
mortgage payment. Now, what about the
fact of the gel of Genesis now? Yes.
Best
in
this is debated topic in location
specific income specific
situations
but the mindset as
you have to take everything
because
right now I I recently learned about
this that that rent a hose benefits.
You're not paying taxes. You're not
paying all the costs of owning a house.
You're not paying uh a percentage on a
mortgage and your payments in the
meantime is a lot less.
>> And if you actually are responsible and
put away that money, you find yourself
in a time.
Correct. And at that point that
in my opinion that real estate is
expensive. So there is a better refi,
there is a better resell. They mentioned
some hazard in Tom's River Kan broke
himself to pay his on,000 mortgage but
the mat says the allah houses and twice
the amount most of the Tom's river
houses now
>> the people that bought five years ago.
What about 100% in five in six seven
years
>> it's not true for starters because again
river
okay
>> it's not 100% it's substantially less
hold on
I
if you would have taken that money and
put it into other good investments even
>> yeah it could have easily
outperformed that so again you're saying
20 years down the line
>> kind of vic Sure,
please. But they the mindset as the
ultimate goal is to own the ultimate
goal
for
the mortgage spent payments and spent.
You never find yourself in that place.
Most people never find themselves in
that place.
usually doesn't stand a chance, right?
But
probably 70s.
So
retirement account
pension plans that ultimately the end
goal is
bills
forced
automated savings and the cost of living
is substantially.
So the only way
somewhat healthy financial plots is
when you find yourself in the place.
Then
real estate
lectures
mention friends and enemies
at this point or wherever they are.
So
If I say it differently, let's
if you make $300,000 a year,
by all accounts, you're probably going
to have almost nothing to show for it.
Well, again,
they
relatively shinable.
So what's the answer? The answer is
family. The only way
is super conscious that all of us will
spend
>> right. I think it comes down to that to
be super conscious
and have a plan.
What am I trying to accomplish with
this? Right.
Yeah. And then insurance. You think it's
a good investment? Insurance.
>> I think life insurance is a beautiful
well debated subject. And
>> I guess
life insurance is a phenomenal product.
Even whole life insurance.
I love it. Although
S&P 500
in the market.
>> Yeah.
Tesla, Apple
guy subject in
compian,
but S&P 500 is for anybody, anybody with
stock portfolio,
>> right?
>> Whole life insurance. Sure. If you could
afford it, if it makes sense
specific scenario
for whatever reason at the time, but
whole life insurance is a beautiful
product
overall.
>> So to answer my question, is it an
investment? Is it a great investment?
It's a part of a overall investment
portfolio. So
yeah,
but this is I'm portion financial plan.
Okay, fine. So whole life insurance is a
beautiful product.
Mhm.
But
they want to do other things, right? So
it's very common
investment. All they have is life
insurance. Extremely common.
unfortunately
can stand
fair enough in some cases but
still still not the right thing to do
right
now. What's the smartest way to go about
it? He wants to pay it. Let's say hot
saints wants $1,000.
What does he do? What's his next step?
coaching.
Otherwise,
>> you really don't stand a chance,
>> right? You're in the dark.
I I tell them
the end of the conversation
realistically
you know soach
>> based off the financial situation
file for bankruptcy those are relatively
number.
Wow.
SBA loans, [clears throat] regular
loans.
>> It's endless. Loans and loans and loans
for sometimes 10, 15 years.
>> Wow.
>> So impressive.
>> I guess for starters, credit cards.
budgeting
coach
finances like nobody else then maybe
points is good value maybe well
>> like is it or why do you say maybe
>> because
statistics with studies when I me swipe
the credit card
you don't want that
statistics,
great. But as long as 100% confident,
odds are that whatever money you make on
the points
interest,
let's put it this way
mentioned the points game zero sense
because it's a trap and high interest
debt line of credits%
in credit card debt. Half million dollar
in credit card debt is $150,000
a year in interest payments.
>> Yeah.
Bution.
>> So
in almost all cases learn to live your
life without credit cards.
>> Right?
>> Finance%
is a trap
anyways.
a trap
under%
cash back. So he's going to make $60 a
month. $60 a month
achen
find themselves
Max points all the time.
Credit card,000
points,
[laughter] points.
Very nice.
A pleasure.
Um, really good. Anything else you want
to share by the way in general overall a
message [snorts] something you had in
mind sometimes mention the path point
is
but
>> [laughter]
>> But I'm very budget conscious. It's
Every Dollar app, which I would highly
recommend
every dollar app and I spent $50,000
recently. Every Dollar
I'm actually sticking to my followup
meetings
right
so increase in the budget
partner like I I'm very budget conscious
and I'll tell you why by the way because
I learned that with money you got to
have a relationship with it you got to
respect it you got to love it you got to
the more you look at it you pay
attention to it the more it loves you
backy
>> [clears throat]
>> So law of attraction and all of that
most mentioned describes in anus because
they don't respect money. They don't
look at it. They resent it. They ignore
it. They try not to know
the guilt and whatever. They live that
kind of life in the blind. For me, I'm
just the opposite. I I adore it. I love
it. I take care of it. I nourish it
mindset.
I see what happens down the line.
>> Correct. So yeah,
as long as
millions of dollars a year in
cleaning
coach
almost
get a grip on your finances.
loser.
We got to put together some money for
him. So,
Genesis
big percent of people find themselves in
that place one, you know, eventually.
So, be smart.
>> Yi Freriedman, thanks a million. Really
appreciate you. So, how can So, if
somebody needs insurance, can I also
reach in? Most definitely.
>> Leave your number in the description.
>> Yes.
>> Okay. And we'll leave his number in the
description. Thank you so much for your
time and for I know you do a lot of help
a lot of people.
>> Um, still doing zero APR
credit cards know how to settle, how to
go about the bills.
And thank you guys for being here.
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and [snorts] um but really there's extra
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you can enjoy. Thank you so much.