The Lechem Mishna That's Not Complete - Rabbi Yakov Zev Smith

[clears throat] >> What is this? >> [cough] >> How much is it? I'd like to welcome everyone to today's year from Mishnah it's not complete. 8651 or email at net.com or else miss. You go to say that if someone baked challahs and they put the two challahs on a pan and during the baking the two challahs stuck together. So you had two challahs. First of all, is the is it can you use it as it is? Take two challahs which became one. And if you have to take it apart, what happens which inevitably some of the challah on one side sticks to the other side or sticks to the pan. So you end up losing the shalom. So the question basically is which we'll see as many minutes, what is the definition of the word shalom the guy if a little bit is missing a little bit stuck to the pan or one challah sticks to the other little bit is that still considered shalom? How do you define the word shalom? >> [clears throat] >> You talk about eating the mitzvah matzah. We are almost many of them are missing a little bit, chipped a little bit or cracked a little bit or burnt a little bit. And everything else in between about what exactly is lechem mishneh it being shalom it should be complete. So the says that we have to realize the of lechem mishneh challah the pastis of the Torah seems to be that lechem mishneh the Torah the lechem mishneh the says look to lechem mishneh sneh I'm a hood. So in rather different but that he feels that the lechem mishneh is the Torah based on the lechem mishneh simple simple reading of the Torah. Now many if not most argue that the is only an Torah but definitely it's it's a the Torah lechem mishneh. But we have to clarify we step back for a moment and that is of course you have to have lechem mishneh. Who is who there be lechem mishneh? But who said it has to be shalom? Lechem mishneh means a double portion two pieces. Where do you see that has to be shalom? Now [clears throat] the every time we make a even during the week you supposed to have a lechem shalom. You supposed to make a on a whole bread. If you buy a roll so make a and then you could cut it open and make a sandwich but you supposed to keep shalom even during the week. So why can that be the source of lechem mishneh being shalom? But the problem with that is very [clears throat] simple because if the on Shabbos is not not not [clears throat] different than during the week during the week there's no to buy a roll for breakfast. You could buy a loaf of bread and every day have a loaf a piece of bread. You could have a slice of bread every day. There's no to have shalom. If you have shalom don't ruin it. But Shabbos it seems that we go out of our way we buy we have shalom. Is it only the regular dinner during the week then there's no to have a shalom? If you have it keep it. So where did the concept of shalom come from the challah? Once we have that we can apply it more than ice. So there's a in Shalom tells I got to see the Torah. >> [clears throat] >> And more points out that on say we do something we don't do the rest of the year. So only lechem only my my my my only should I approve sir >> [clears throat] >> I've come to approve sir. So that really the whole year we have lechem mishneh on two whole two whole matzahs but but but Pesach we have we like to be like an only and we have a broken piece. If you look at the his gear say is that Pesach by night we use a broken matzah. But Shabbos I have to say I take shalom the Shabbos. It seems gear say the Torah was you have to have two shalom. >> [clears throat] >> So according to the understanding of the it's a very Torah. Okay, can't say. Also and the and the testament base with the five say the Shabbos I'll take ice the means it seems to be the word shalom. So I'll see there two in the shalom that you have to have shalom is based on the on the Torah fine. But the there's a more in the Torah. Now listen to this you hear ice of the Torah has so much meaning. As I told you the Torah says in in shalom it's also in the Pesach by night we don't we take a broken matzah. Rather meaning I grow up to have two matzahs. So you make a lechem only one and a half. But that's okay because Pesach by night is only a piece Rightly at the Torah says Pesach by night we use a piece So with a Torah I'll take ice. You have to have two is a whole a whole loaf. So it seems that the Torah is making a contrast. During Pesach Pesach by night that is we take one and a half but Shabbos you have to have two What does it mean to say? Shalom. And if you look at the in our in the Torah but say I'll take doesn't say a word about shalom. There are more the word shalom. So shalom where do where do I get it from? Came on the testament base and he sends us to the Torah on the testament base. Now we often mention that's one of the treats of learning in the in the Torah every word is is ice the ice because he you see how he learned that that Pesach we use a broken matzah. But a regular Shabbos we have to have two shalom. >> [clears throat] >> I might say twice is also assumed you have to have shalom on Shabbos. How do I know that? Because twice this points out during the week when you make a so before you make the you break the the roll slightly so after the quickly take it off and eat it right away to avoid it. So even though we keep it shalom but we make it partially torn. >> [snorts] >> But >> [clears throat] >> Shabbos don't do that because if you do that you might end up tearing too much and you lose the the my love shalom. So twice this certainly assumed that you have to have a shalom on every single Shabbos more than Pesach by night and the more than a regular day because a regular day there's no to have shalom. If you have it keep it shalom. But but every Shabbos and young team I have two shalom. Now the third to me is not say paragraph is a little more and he says if the tells us that a broken challah broken matzah is not a is a piece so it's missing in Shabbos if you take a broken challah broken matzah. So it's Shabbos is a mitzvah. So basically we're going to say that the of shalom is it's more than a regular weekday shalom it's a Shabbos and a mitzvah to have like the man two shalom. I should mention the challah we the and that was one of the early in the base. He says that we should mention this last week rather that he eats eating is not eating a year's eating is a it's a and on the ice everything had to be shalom and that's why the challahs that we eat on Shabbos has to be shalom even during the week. So there's definitely not just to have two but to have two shalom. The big question is how do you define the word shalom? Shalom means complete. So if you think about the simple type shalom complete it can't be missing at all which makes Pesach very challenging because a matzah is a lot of them have a little nook and a little a little the crack over here. >> [clears throat] >> Not shalom. If you follow the analogy to again the has to be perfect. But if you learn like we just understood that [clears throat] it's a Shabbos I didn't cover mitzvah so a small piece that you can't even see it. It's not noticeable. Who [clears throat] said it takes away? But then again, the word shalom means shalom. I mean, I'll give you a good example of what they call the other as we shall see I feel as you have a tough place is possible for for a circus. So maybe who I did a kicker that's also is possible that I shall live. >> [clears throat] >> So we have to find in in chas a combination of the word kicker and shalom. You have to scan through your mind to go through chas. Do we find any other place that the word kicker shalom appears? And then whatever goes there will apply here. So I'm sure you know it's a sugia a beautiful sugia in everything that came with base. The mishnah says that the first seat hold you can make an air of out of anything you want. But we pass again, no. That it comes to air of chas air you have to use a kicker which Rashi says kicker shalom. So that combination you have the mishnah and Rashi. You can't use any food but a kicker kicker is a type of loaf. Typically kicker means a shalom. So mishnah saying we pass like a you have to have a kicker. But the mishnah makes it very clear. You could have a huge huge if it's missing it's not good for chas air. You could have a tiny small bill club as long as size of a which is the size that you have to give for air of if it's shalom it's kosher. So this is what we're looking for. You have to have a kicker and the air of air of chas air has to be shalom. So the we should be able to apply that to to two kickers. But you look at the you start to wonder if that's correct. Because the Rashi says that the next pay asks a question. What's wrong if you have a big is missing? So the Rashi so Rashi explains because when people have to chip in they want everybody should be mentioned. I give a nice beautiful you gave a broken color. So the company is you know we're doing something together jointly. Why can't you be a little more generous? You're you're missing cover a table. Now this is consistent with the side of air of chas air. Rashi says in one place the air of we join together different families it should be a nice it should be a pleasant joint effort to become one. Ava is just the opposite. Ava means you leave like this. What caused that resentment when someone uses a broken matzah or broken color whatever it is. I gave a nice one you can't give a nice one. Now this is mentioned almost you know almost air of the minute it rolls to make an air of air of chas he's not it's not no one resents him. Okay he did a nice thing cuz we can't eat it if it it has if it wasn't taken off color. So part of the eating the color to be to be edible you have to take off color. So therefore also Ava is a problem. But if you took it off also the other reason also color it's fine. Now the Rashi in air of goes a step further. He says let's say you didn't take off color. Let's say your child took a bite out of a color and you're missing less than 148th. Look the Rashi is still kosher. You know why? Because people don't know what happened. They see something missing they think the bottom was an he took off color. In America when you say what you don't know doesn't hurt you. So the Rashi is saying a big the share of color less than that is fine. And that's where the Rashi and see above. So now the is can we say we divide that the mice are the share of color it's less than the share of color what less than 148th is kosher by air of even though it says kicker shalom who I did mishnah. But makes it even more tricky I should say. Rashi says on the share of 148th the and there is a small a small amount. So it sounds like it's a dinner of the amount. 148th is not considered a kosher. And and that indeed that's the sheet of the street to my knowledge one of the first that discusses our shalom. In someone asked him part of the the matzah got burnt which not which is no fell off. But you it's only a small part of it. So the I pointed the in air of that pay pay off of and if it's less than 148th we have no problem. And he says and he really echoes with the of Rashi also also like shalom who I did mishnah but less than 148th is kosher. So the is applying air of to the mishnah. So less than 148th even if it cracked off because we pass like the Rashi. So if by air of chas air of any reason that less than 148th is kosher so to air of the mishnah. The second God a little later God and that's the very important to the brother. So I'll have to find it but in the the end of there are two of them and in the new print it's gimmel. And I wrote down the page I'll tell you soon but but it's chas gimmel base. And he says the following is said. He too but he was asked out of a different question even more of a shalom. He says someone asked him that his his wife made color for shabbos and simply forgot to take off color. And that was big color. So what do you do you have to take off from from big color you're supposed to take off from the other. And now it came Friday night and he has a that's missing. Say that he upset. But she took off 148th whatever reason. So Rashi that's fine. It's okay. It's not just like it's kosher air of it. And then he has a beautiful connection. He says I will say but how do you compare air of totally and here it's not totally here it's totally the mishnah. It's a beautiful side. If in air of that the whole problem is the other men people are unfortunately very quick to condemn and they're critical. If you could get away with missing less than 148th in air of air of so kosher is kosher. The time is easy to get along with them. If you have one less than 148th is good for air of with people it's good for the other. And then he goes even further and he says I'll prove it to you we'll soon see. If you have two broken pieces of color let's say a big color is split. So you could finish the you could put it together and put a toothpick whatever to keep it together to hold it together. Why? So his point is the is it has to look presentable has to look like a shalom. And a small amount one less than 148th still looks like a shalom. So therefore time is the the the I'm sorry I mentioned the the wrong I'm sorry. This is the Torah Khatos. This is the of the of the of the in the Siman Yud Beis. We'll soon see if I get all forget. But this sheet the Torah Siman Yud Beis in the end of the Torah of the the the Yaakov says this very husband. So we have two Gedolei Achronim the Yaakov and of course the two less than 1/48 is kosher across the board. However, the Eliahu Rabbah like I told you in the end of Chelek Gimmel in Orach Chaim in the new print is Chelek Gimmel Amud Ayin Zayin he taina is like like we thought simply. He says it's only a din that less a small amount they'll be to'elah that you took it off al tza'ar. Let me think Dr. Eliahu Rabbah. You come to the shul and you know you and you know your child bit off a little piece of challah. And what are we going to say? I'll be I'll be I'll live in a dream world that they took off challah. But you know it's not shalem. The says take a shalem and you're taking a broken challah because it looks like someone took off challah. Who are you fooling? >> [clears throat] >> So he doesn't like this whole approach. And he strongly disagrees with those that hold it's muttar. He says if you have to be shalem and it's not shalem there's no shiur to it even less than 1/48. This is also the sheet of the Korban Nesanel in in Eruvin the Pri Megadim quotes the Chazon Ish as you see this is a mar'eh mu'al mar'eh. One thing I want to add I Rashi says befeirish that 1/48 is a small amount. Isn't that the biggest ria who had din by lechem mishneh? I don't believe so. You know why? I'll tell you very simple. Rashi is bothered by Rashi bothered by a simple question. There are two shiurim in lechem mishneh. 1/24 which typically we take off regular ba'al habayis and 1/48 which is again bigger. So the question is I'm sorry smaller I'm sorry. Smaller. So the question is why was the Gemara only meikel 1/48? Why not be a sport and 1/24 also? Tairutz says no no. 1/24 is too big. 1/48 you get away with it. That's a neiker. So it's Rashi explaining why Chazal used the shiur 1/48 not 1/24. But the end of the day our shaila we have mar'eh literally mar'eh mu'al mar'eh. The Mishna Berurah makes no mention of the machlokes unfortunately. The Shulchan Aruch is very clear. He says some are meikel because like challah like like Eruvin I don't see the dimyan. There it's totally in aveida here it's totally in metzi'ah. It's not a shalem. So lema'aseh there is definitely a reason why minhag ha'olam is to try to get shalem mamash. And that's why lechatchilah when you have a shalem make sure it's very shalem. I'll give you a few practical examples. When someone first of all someone bakes challah don't be quick to take it off the pan because sometimes it sticks to the pan. Take it off slowly. Also if a person buys a bakery challah they have a label on it bakery label. Don't take it off before the motzei. You end up you know taking off part of the shalem. >> [clears throat] >> If challah stuck together then separate it carefully. It shouldn't stick one on the other cuz if if let's say B some of B sticks on A so then you know you you have an A plus. But A plus is not good either we'll soon see cuz it's too much. B is shalem B is chaser and A is too much. So you have to take it off carefully. Of course of course when you transport your matzos home from the matzah bakery don't hit every you know pothole. Drive slowly and carefully because you hit the you know you hit these bumps the matzah is great they're very fragile. So I I definitely you could say the minhag ha'olam is to be very very careful to make sure that the matzah is shalem >> [clears throat] >> but there are enough poskim that are meikel that if it's missing less than 1/48 you could be meikel. You have the Chazon Ish you have the Pri Megadim you have the Torah you have the Yaakov. But there's another tzad to be meikel which in chiyur is extremely for Pesach b'chlall. The Chelkas Yaakov in Orach Chaim Siman Tzadik Gimmel was asked this simple shaila. What do you do Pesach you buy as much as matzah you can but lema'aseh many times you don't find enough shalem. I mean it's almost shalem it's a missing a little a little crack over here a nick over here. So his shita is and he puts it all together that the side of lechem mishneh is k'vod ha'bracha k'vod ha'shchina and it's all totally in b'einei habriyos what's considered shalem. And when it comes to matzah people understand you know you can't sometimes you can get a perfect matzah. So as long as it's acceptable it's something like this where I told you b'einei Elokim v'adam ruach briyos nocheim menu. If it's considered shalem b'einei habriyos that's enough. He says it with the sword of Zalman in Shmiras Shabbos Menucha Orach Chelek Daled says it poshin He says lema'aseh you have to be same on this sword because you see ro'ei v'challah even sold bought challahs and certainly matzos are missing. The Mishnah Berurah Siman Amud Kuf Hey also says this. We say lechatchilah when it comes to matzah that it's inevitable that some of it is a little bit cracks off. As long as it's appears to be a shalem that's okay. So it's very relieving especially you're talking Erev Pesach. If it's missing less than one less than 1/48 you have the Chazon Ish and others that are meikel and some are machmir. If it's missing a small little piece that's not neiker then you have this new svara that that is lechem shalem. You know it's Rashi b'kach you want to say but that's [clears throat] not a chaser. The the [clears throat] Shabbos b'Shabbos Siman Amud Kuf Beis adds a stick of this. Because the halacha is in Kuf Samech Zayin Seif Aleph that before you make a motzei during the week you break you you you start cutting it either tear off a piece or you make an indentation. And Shabbos we'll soon see the minhag of many people do the same. You make a slight indentation. The kasha is if you do that it's going to end up being a little bit chaser. If you have a especially you have a water challah with a crust if you make an indentation you're basically making some of the challah to crack. So how could it be a shalem? Tairutz says if it's dark b'kach a little bit doesn't bother us. That could be the ria not a perfect ria because if that's the mitzvah to make the indentation that's part of the mitzvah. So you're making the bracha on a shalem and this is a shalem cuz they started the cutting. One thing I will tell you I was once at someone's house for Shabbos and his wife worked very hard to make it a beautiful Shabbos. And of course she baked fresh challah. The kids uh the husband came out right before kiddush. This Shabbos we have to make a motzei on matzah. This is not on Pesach. I said what's wrong? Well we had a problem the challah stuck to the pan and I tried to take it off a little bit stuck to the pan so it's not shalem we're going to use matzah. And I was thinking in that category. He means well but he's an am ha'aretz. Because if it's missing less than 1/48 we have the Chazon Ish. And especially his wife was crushed. She has guests and she's been serving matzah. What's the lechem oini? He was missing the very important Mishnah Berurah the sefer the Mesillas Yesharim Perek Chaf Aleph right? You have to know when to be frum. So he should have first of all learned halachos of lechem mishneh. Less than 1/48 is muttar like the Chazon Ish. I others argue. So in this case you have to be machmir in k'vod ha'shchina. And the truth is the challah should remind him of that also. Because why do we cover the challah Friday and Shabbos? A year of bishul osur. So if you're not supposed to the bread how are you allowed to your wife? So the Chazon Ish and Mishnah Berurah so certainly when it comes to Chavera you could rely on the you should rely on the Chazon Ish. Less than a 48 does not take away the shalem. We'll soon see if a if a piece taka big piece detached we'll soon see also. But you have to know halacha before you from. That's what the Avos Ubanim. A person that's frum has to learn halacha carefully to know if it's frum kite or frum kite. >> [clears throat] >> But anyway I'll get back. Also I got aitzah tovah it's good for the shalom bayis and the blood pressure. Very often it comes the end of Pesach they don't have more shalem. So the aitzah is Erev Pesach before it gets all you know tense go through the boxes take out all the shalem and leave the shvarim for the children to have breakfast. Now when they wake up in the morning they have breakfast they broke all the shalem you have. Not their fault they don't know. What you expect? So take all the shalem put it in one box put it on top and the breakfast whatever they want to they could eat. Another box this way you have enough shalem until the end. To return [clears throat] to original chakira so what exactly is the chiyuv of shalem regarding lechem mishneh? So it's probably totally in that machlokes but no doubt about it that up to 1/48 is machlokes. It doesn't have to be shalem mamash we said a little bit is okay. I think the right answer is has to be neiker shalem. It has to be what's possible by any means. The mice are to apply this more specific. Let's start with the common happens to often. Someone whatever reason either in school or is in a hospital for Shabbos, whatever it is, he doesn't have any slamon. He has a piece of challah here, another piece here, and there's no slamon. So, this is color of the challah days. If there's no slamon, take two cruces. Why? I it goes from the safer. Wrong, it's not from the safer. What's the ika? Mishna lechem mishna, that's the possuk. Slamon is a mailer in the bracha. But the chiyuv like the Taz the Rashi like the d'Or Rabbanan is mishna. And takah we'll soon see the mayshiv d'var the tziuv in the chuvash in chof aleph the acharonim in seif gimmel the tzei Shabbos all in our siman dalet. If you don't have two slamon, there's an independent mitzvah to have lechem mishna. To pick up two two cruces and make a motzi on them. I saw a very gishmaka shaila. Someone had it was him and his brother. To make it long story short, they're home for Shabbos. So, this is only two slamon. So, his brother's first starting mincha he while he finished mincha he doesn't want to wait, but he can't take the slamon himself. He has to wait for his brother. So, he had an idea. He made a motzi on the two slamon, cut off a little piece less than 1/48, put it down. His brother came up from shul and goes, "Oh, my brother's so nice. He left it for me." Little did he know that his brother made a motzi on it and took a small piece. And he relied on the sheet of the chometz we So, if he told his brother, "You see, I didn't touch it." You're not allowed, but he didn't say anything. Maybe it's Maybe it's us, but let's talk about lechem mishna. >> [clears throat] >> So, possuk is chometz we. Does his brother have to be serving chometz we? That's an ethical question. But I have a more of a halachic question. Maybe the halacha if it's missing 1/48 is it's not a it's not a lack of chashivus, but that's a d'Or Rabbanan. But if you cut on the challah for your motzi and use it, how do you give it to him? I'll give you a mashal of Shabbos oizen. You know, it says by Agass by the Rov for Shana Rabbah, I feel all the about kosher by shana's. But if you have a kosher by shana, who used a kosher by shana? How could that be? All the about one is good and five still five I said five shana's. They're beautiful. Just use the kosher a few times. That's possible? Maybe like a gishlaga kapara. But once it was used, maybe that's the psul. So, the mice are I looked into this a little bit and there's another problem really. The problem really is the first brother wasn't lechem mishna lechem mishna because you have to take you have to be say and have a kazayis of the lechem mishna. And takah so the Rav Zalman in his sefer chometz Shabbos in the base he has this very shaila. He has a shaila with someone who was that we only had two after the case of the two brothers, but his you saw he calls Rav Yishuv that you can't be lechem mishna if you don't take more at least a kazayis. So, it seems that maybe without that it would be a problem. What we're saying is a more fundamental problem. Once it is used once, it's a chosser. Isn't that possible like that? And we'll soon see that it says a similar shvara that if you have a parrus, so it's a parrus. If you cut a parrus in half, so you have a chosser. So, the chiyuv there's two problems this one is you know you have to have a kazayis of the lechem mishna and the chiyuv one is it's like again like it's like a used lechem mishna can't be reused even though it's less than one 1/48. If you think I'm wrong, then I'd rather have like that what what you think. Next question touches upon what we mentioned earlier. >> [clears throat] >> And that is basically the minigolem during the week before you make a motzi either you break off a little bit of it or you cut with a knife you make an indentation of a shima it's called. Should that be done on Shabbos and Yom Tov as well? So, if you look in Shulchan Aruch kuf sameach zayin in seif aleph, the Shulchan Aruch says the following. When you break off a little piece of the challah on a roll during the week not Shabbos, so you typically break off a piece not entirely keep it attached connected, make a motzi and here's the motzi you could quickly take it off and eat it without making a hefsik. So, the mechaber cautions, but don't make too much of a cut in the in the bread. Cuz if you once you cut the bread that it's already detached, so it's it's you lost the shalem. How do you know when it's still considered attached or detached? So, the mechaber gives us a prova a test. Hold the smaller part in your hand. If the bigger part falls off, that means not connected. So, I you broke it really broke before. But let's say you hold the smaller part and this top part the other parts takes still stays with it, that's a shalem. That's all regarding weekday. Shabbos, so you look in the in in the Magen Avraham and other poskim, after Shachris explains, he says Shabbos don't even start cutting the challah. Because you might overdo it and you're going to lose not only shalem, you're going to lose lechem mishna shalem. But a little indentation a little reshima you could make, but just don't cut too much. Based on this, we can understand that to make a little reshima is fine. I the mice you missed you're making a little bit chosser. Inevitably you cut in best in the water challah, a little bit of the crust cracks. Maybe on the egg challah not, but on water challah for sure. So, that we said earlier. A little bit of chometz is fine. But the question is what people do is they make a little indentation they don't want to do too much. Then after a motzi they spend five minutes looking for that indentation. And why are you looking for it? To save time. So, this the Shulchan in pei beis gimmel kuf ches quotes the Tzemach Tzedek. He once spoke he said the Zayda he would say this one spoke about a what he calls it a dikduk she'eina nitzrach. I hear that people do which is almost counterproductive. And his example was this. You make an indentation one reason the chiyuv to find it and make it easy to cut. So, to make the less hefsik and he spend more time finding it and the whole thing is worth. So, it's interesting that mitzvah halacha the Tzlach in brachos beis says better on Shabbos make no reshima whatsoever. That's the way the Tzlach poskins and many have that minig. Some have the minig that they make a reshima and they note where it is and they continue cutting from there. So, you save time. But it's not so surprising to say some have a minig they make an indentation and comes to then after a motzi they cut any place. I'm on the shelf. This I saw in the Torah I mentioned earlier he's one of the besides and he says that everything has to have a reishis toyiv. The reishis toyiv shows it's all Hashem and he explains the meaning of making a reshima before the motzi you're being the challah of Hashem. So, there are three minigim in the class you'll notice. Some make the reshima and they continue cutting on afterwards. They know where they made it. So, that makes sense. Some make a reshima and don't look for it. That's a kabbalah and some make no reshima on Shabbos or Yom Tov. That's the Yehuda and that's the minig. Your minig is the right minig with your minig and have any shalom Yisrael. Question. If someone came to shul this once and there was no lechem mishna. He was very distraught. So, the mice are we're allowed to tell him a little a little divine comfort that there are some Rishonim that hold that lechem mishna on on shalesh seudos is not really a chiyuv. And the cheshbon is very simple. We we take lechem mishna as double. How was it in the in in the midbar? So, every day they had two portions. Erev and boiker. Boiker and [clears throat] erev actually. Sh erev Shabbos it fell two portions four portions all together, right? So, Friday morning they had four. They ate one. Friday night they had three left. They ate one boiker. Shabbos morning they had the seudah they had two. But the second seudah we call shalesh seudos there's only one left. >> [clears throat] >> Zocher le'eched one of the Rishonim in siman gimmel that could be based on this there's no chiyuv lechem mishna on shalesh seudos. Because they didn't have it. So, why do we have to have it? However, [clears throat] the mechaber siman aleph seif aleph says explicitly on shalesh seudos you don't have to have kiddush, but you have to have lechem mishna on two cruces. >> [clears throat] >> I the chiyuv the taina of the Shulchan Aruch is convincing, but the Torah is not really so convincing because we don't do what they did in the midbar exactly because we don't take three at night. We learn from the midbar that since a Shabbos fell double, every one of our seudos has to have a double lechem. >> [clears throat] >> If someone has a fourth seudah on Shabbos, let's say he forgot. He hungry. He washed a fourth time. Does he have to have lechem mishna? It's not a din what we what they did. It's a din that our seudah has to have double. So, even seudah shlishis has to have lechem mishna. >> [clears throat] >> Next group of questions is really based on our seudah, but now we have a little more of a understanding what's going on. If something is missing on the challah or the matzah, that we know [clears throat] that the matzah less than 1/48, you could be make all a little bit that's dark because they're much more makil. The question is if a matzah piece of the matzah either got burnt and the person cracked off all the burnt to make it look nice, but now it's chassid. Or a little of the matzah cracked off. And the matzah, it's more than 1/48. So you have nothing to [clears throat] say about the challah. So here there's a high army in sheet. The bell says this. >> [clears throat] >> And that basically is that if you take the matzah carefully and burn the place that it's chassid and it looks now like it was baked and punked that area is has a nice border, but that's If you could sort of reconstruct the matzah by burning it, it's kosher. >> [clears throat] >> Now where does it say this? We have a lot of chulas written. A lot of in Shulchan Aruch it's written. So I found the Steipler in the the Chasam in Pesach Gimel. If you want to see it also in in the Yasha's Chulas Safer Dalid Siman Mem Tes, he quotes the Chula of of the Steipler. Very short Chula actually. He says the minigoylim [clears throat] is that you cut the challah that you burn the edge to make it a sholem. I looked in all the in Siman Reshaim Dalid, I didn't find anything. >> [clears throat] >> Is it correct? The Yeshiva Yasha is machan. Is it correct? Is it a right minig? So he says maybe the minig is based on interesting idea. Now what is this interesting idea? So the idea is coded Shulchan Aruch Siman Beis. >> [clears throat] >> Zoch idea, if someone had a beautiful challah, a big challah, whatever it is, and somehow it split in half. Now you have two half a challah. Much more than one 1/48. Zoch idea, no problem. Put the two challahs together and use a kisin. Obviously can't use a muktza stick on Shabbos. Use a a toothpick or you may have a special kisin for the occasion. And [clears throat] the matzah put the kisin through the two pieces and now you made a successful surgery. You grafted two together. >> [clears throat] >> As I state in idea the pella is who you fooling? What a cosmetic surgery? The matzah is two pieces. It's not connected. You know, I'll save every second. If you put peanut butter in the center and stick it together, that might be a better trick because at least it sticks together. But you put a kisin, how how who you fooling? The teretz all the explain is like I told you earlier the side of the matzah sholem is it should be near a sholem. It should look presentable quite a bracha quite a bracha. And the lotion that we saw earlier, if it's a bris a bracha a bracha a bracha. Or as the Rabbi says the bracha gives you shefa bishleimus, give him back shleimus. But the fact that you reconstructed it, but the matzah looks good. You're not fooling anybody. It covered a bracha that should have the external appearance of being a sholem. >> [clears throat] >> And this is the mess is the idea. There's a beautiful Chula in the Shulchan Aruch Siman Shin Mem Beis. He says the side of a sholem is is a busy mitzvah and the is it should give an appearance of a sholem. This is enough to give an appearance of a sholem. In a later Chula Dalid Siman Peches, he says even a bigger that that basically Frank was masking too. If you take a a slice of bread and make it into a toast to need them, so it becomes like a new effort. It's considered sholem. That's a big effort. But we can understand if you not a burn it properly, it looks like the matzah came out like that. If it [clears throat] came out like that, it's not a sholem. It's not a chassid. It's a regular sholem. I'm saying the sholem is he is his lotion in the shleima in Pesach Beis that the matzah it is mocking the fact on the minig, but that's the minigoylim. The in Dalid Siman Kuf Beis is a little more supportive of the minig and he doesn't like the minig at all and he says that the matzah it's hard to understand how could you take a broken matzah and burn it how does that become whole? But the minig as we said is because it's considered like it's a it's near a sholem. Can you make this burning surgery on Shabbos or Yom Tov? So they say chassid sholem. But truth is why is it so chassid sholem? The matzah [clears throat] is baked. So anything is here. What's wrong with putting fire to a matzah on Shabbos? And truth be told it's not a problem. The real problem is that the matzah catch on to fire. So you even have fire. Then what happens you blow it out, you even keep wood. But on Yom Tov the there's no fire. And talk of the place can say that you allowed to put a matzah to the fire because it's like a fire that you transferring a fire let's say on Yom Tov. The question is you might Oh, wait we get that soon. I you might blow it out. So first don't blow it out. But I saw the safer Yom Tov chassid, he points out that if otherwise the matzah is going to burn entirely then it's considered a nefesh to make it work. So the matzah that's very chassid, but if you do it carefully and people have to do it, they take the candle out of fire and you make it proper it won't be a problem on Yom Tov. The only thing is the sholem is all about in the Shabbos in Gimel in the Hagoyim in the hey. He says very strongly you can't do this on Shabbos or Yom Tov because you second you're making from broken into a whole. The McDonald's has a very thorough beautiful Chula Gimel Siman Kuf Ches with the Shulchan Aruch Siman but he proves conclusively that there is no problem of tikan when it comes to matzah. What's this water? It's very possible. A broken matzah is not treif. It's not possible. It's missing the mile. But the whole thing is a mile. So how can it be tikan mile? And he brings a beautiful riot. I mean it's a writing of Chula. The says the famous in Kuf Samach Zayin where when it talks about the grafting putting together two pieces of of challah he quotes the idea that says even the Shabbos you could do it. I tikan, you making matzah. So evidently the is that when you have a a question of if you second treif you have fire. That's us. But here it's it's it's kosher either way. So the matzah and sholem it's a very convincing argument that there wouldn't be a problem of tikan on Shabbos or Yom Tov. Of course best to do it before Shabbos or Yom Tov. You don't want the problem of key boy and a fire even though on Yom Tov probably the the fire is okay. But the matzah this is the answer. If someone had a matzah that broke off, you take a a candle. People have to do it. You give it a that that scorched look. It looks like it's complete. Now [clears throat] this is only when the matzah is chassid. If it came out of the the oven and the edges got burnt, but you didn't touch it, that's fine. That's it's sholem. Very often things get burnt. That doesn't take away from the sholem. Once it came out, that's the and that you have to keep to make sure that nothing goes wrong. A challah that split as we said earlier, like we quoted the idea in Kuf Samach Zayin in Kuf it's it's Kuf Samach Ches. The matzah you have to make sure that it is stuck together and it looks like one. >> [clears throat] >> The idea says the famous even on Shabbos. The only thing is someone will say that he means to say that during the week there's no reason to take two halves put it whole because during the week is less of a of sholem. But one thing I will tell you the Rav in Kuf Samach Gimel after quotes the the Shulchan Aruch and the you can make this grafting. He says but the matzah ain't sholem because the matzah it is not a sholem. So grafting two parts of a challah together is best to avoid it, but if you have no choice especially if it's a sholem bias issue, you put the toothpick, connect the two pieces and that is definitely good like the idea and the Shulchan Aruch. Someone had the sholem that matzah very often it cracks. But not cracked into two pieces. It's hanging. Is that considered sholem? The whole matzah is there, but it's cracked. So the answer is we have to use a problem, the test that the Shulchan Aruch gives. Hold on the smaller part of the matzah. If the matzah remains whole, it's whole. If it cracks off, that means it never was a sholem. If someone had asked me the sholem he had matzah stuck on a pan on the or the baking pan and he's afraid to take it off. It might stick some of it stick to it and you going to come on to a sholem. Is it kosher? Can you make a bracha matzah on the matzah on the challah in the pan? Or a question two doughs connected he made two different challah doughs and that's called the challah and now it attached. So it's not a kosher. Can you [clears throat] use it as it is? The third question is the section challah, the old fashioned section challah which is different. They take doughs, stick it together, bake it and you buy it and you take it home miss you off one color second color is that [clears throat] less than mixed. And the most problematic is the machine matzah says that are made in big sheets and after they bake them, they split them. Are these the fair cashes? Are they considered less than mixed or not? So the easiest question is color that two colors that were made separate and put in the oven separate and somehow they expanded and connect that is not a problem to separate it. You're not you're not cutting a coil looks in half which is considered a closer. You're taking two that connected against your will and you're separating them. So what's wrong? In fact it shall remain so in the comma say the guy of seven and of course I am saying says it's even probable that you can make the brocha when they're connected. Because once they're two, so why chop it? You chop it you might ruin it. So this I saw the office in the past like this. He says some hold they should separate it first. But no doubt about it. If you made two, it doesn't become two against your will. So if you want to be careful to separate them slowly. If you're afraid to do that, keep it as whole as one. It's really two. You can rely on the that holds it's fine. If the mice are a little bit is missing after you separate it again. We have this forum 148 less than 148. We have this forum of color that's dark in the cup. A really challenging question is a section color. Now section color was it's not like a big color you cut in half. It was separate strands of dough, but you put them together as one. You bake them as one. That's worse than a color that stuck in the pan against your will. And this is the master shackle in our seven by olive. This is his socket. Could be if you if you put them into one and bake them as one, it becomes one. See the first case they stuck together against your will. That's two. But this you put them together. Well make up your mind. You want one or two? So he has a socket. The mice are the there are my killer here as well. If you made it to separate it, so say if I must have a killer talking to me and has pitam and I am saying that he sends you to what he writes about in Astrid Astrid is a beautiful Sugiyama everything is connected. The master of Rome in similar and the city of Yezhov two beautiful killer seven of dollar and half a. The bear wish with a live here in the park and killer I am he says them the bear the section house are fine for the mission. It be quotes the and the mission. The mice [clears throat] are a vada you could be make it to use the the section color, but you can't say well since it's good separating them, I'll use them together. Because before you separate them, it's like a one. So you want to be make it it's not as good as the two colors that stuck together. You can use it as one. You have to separate it and then use it. What's most challenging is the the machine matzah. Now the machine matzahs were always made as one big sheet. It's fascinating to see how it's made and then they after it's baked or when it's still hot they cut it so it looks like like like like it was baked like that. But the mice are they were made as one long sheet on the machine and cut afterwards. I have a nice and stiff in the two of seven close by above felt that it's not a show them. Because this is worse than anything else. You have to realize this is not like the section color. You have piece of dough you stuck together. This is one dough, one batter, one sheet. It's always one. After it's baked they decide to cut them into pieces. Who said that's how it's if there's no mice are. It was it was one. However, the city of Yezhov I mentioned earlier he he points out that the stiff printed his two of in the in the plate that's one of the the the swarm that he put out before the war and he basically says that three other took exception to the stiff about his sock. In other words obviously the fact that you made it to separate it is enough to make it different which is a big killer. But the good news I must tell you I called someone who's one of the biggest he saw he said he saw every matzah bakery machine matzah bakery today. All of them in the past 20 years have changed and now all the matzahs are made into a sheet sliced a long one way and the other way each matzah is baked individually. I mean it's not they put one at a time, but it's a sheet that's sliced before it's baked. So this is basically no shilo whatsoever. >> [clears throat] >> So that's why the good news the machine matzahs are fine. Very often you get a bill color bill color by with a big island. You could have like 20 almost stuck together. Now I don't know if they make it on purpose or it's convenient it comes out like that. But the mice this way you could you could pick up sheets of bill color. But these are not made to stick it's not like a section color. It's made for what has to be separate ones. To make it a little more convenient they make it that it should it should stick, but it's not like it's like not like one sheet that you're making it into color and this should be fine. The only problem is if often when you separate it one tears on the other, so it's not practical. But the mice are as we said the point of colors is if it's made as as separate it remains separate. Two colors that stuck together. Let's say we'll call it A and B and you took the B off A and part of B stuck on A. So now B is a closer and A is we call A plus. But it's doesn't look right. It's a color plus. So this in the cup says you can use it as it is because it's like it's too good. It's like an A plus, but it's too good. Yes it can not though. So before you use A, take off the remnants of B. You want to reconstruct B and make your grafting that's fine. But you can't use A if it's too much. To use color or two that stuck to the pan, I I don't see a problem. I mean some say it's not covered brocha covered shabbos, but then again taking it off and it's fixed and then it it tears up is probably worse. So you're supposed to put your hands the 10 fingers on the colors you put them on top. And it's not the tray is not if you feel that you know my some of the say they didn't do that they didn't have a tray like that we have. But the mice are it seems that if the mice are you could make a brocha properly, keep it on it and don't ruin the slayers. Someone had a question they they they sell these buns or bagels that are pre-cut. Because they know what's the no one has time to cut the bagel they cut it before you. But they're still connected significantly. So again if you use the test of the you hold one side they're both equal in size it doesn't plop down obviously it's connected. So the shouldn't be a problem. Now someone saying but is a dinner of it was cut there's a of cutting. I don't know if it's this far. What does that mean? If it's one bagel and they cut it to make it easier to use, so the cutting makes into two. The cutting is convenience. If it's still a a show them it's still past the test it's fine. Let me leave you with a beautiful shilo. You can have it for shabbos or Yom Tov take it home with your family. Question. Someone is stuck with one show them. Whatever the case is he has one show them. That's it. And it's a shabbos What do you do with one show them? See what's the problem? Be happy the gave you a show them. But then again it's shabbos and you mission. So the question is should you cut the color before you make a say? So you have two say. Or don't mess with success. Show them is a don't don't you can't break your show them. So the question is which is a better mile? So in the way we learned today it's much smaller to cut the color in half and make a on on on mission. Because again the word show them is the dish based on the fine. But the isolate the task is not the is two. Are you giving up the mile of show them? Okay, but it's it's it's insignificant comparison to to to to the mission. And I saw in one of the one of the in him the already saying him seven your test it says coffee olive. He says we have a show them break it into two so you have mission the more. However, there's a beautiful of the in seven two of also in the and brocha of test. And he says based on a I am saying that it depends. If you have a show them and you break it, it's not just it's a porous. It's a closer. You broke it. You used it. That is not good even for mission. Because there are there are three categories. The show them, there's porous and there's closer. If you willingly broke this, it's not just a porous. Not just a piece. It's a closer. But if the person gave you two say, then that's mission because you have two. So the picks up on this seven half dollar. He says so if you ever have this shilo and you're working in the kitchen or you're a son of the boss, take the color quietly in the kitchen, cut it in half and bring it out as two say. Because the one that cuts it loses his his of a porous. So he ends up he has nothing. So this is what the Kim seem to say. But, what I liked about this is that here there's a right we said earlier. We said earlier if you have two the common and you cut a small piece just to be a to give it to someone else he thinks it's too slamon. Could be that's worse because there you cut it. You made it into a rasa. So, whatever the case is this is what he passed in the total table. Shame you should tell like to give a big ashikata of smissa today's share. Once again have the great source of sponsoring your share called English title 718-851-8651 email the shivina.com. First I should have a shlamis in the union of shalom and the commission of smissa says she comes. She comes to me a mission that a double of what we said till now. The commission is based on a positive it shouldn't be you know smaller than our eyes. Some holds the rice no doubt about it it's a cover chavez. The question only is that how do you where does the the clear shalom come from and the answer is it's really part beside that it's a cover of doing the week but the special cover in shabbos that we don't take anything that's reminds of we take cover chavez with the the same kind of shabbos with the of shabbos. Basically the lechem mishnah shalom part is not it's independent mitzvah if you don't have shalom at least you have lechem mishnah that's also worthwhile. The question is what's considered hasim so comparing it to rice less than 148 would be okay and that's of many places. If the place came that I'm actually they hold that you can't compare in Ava but we did say a which makes sense something that's a like matzos missing a little bit even I said the disciple it was not so much because sometimes it just falls off a little piece that is not eligible even if you hold that's done we don't compare it to to Ava chavez. But, if you have a shalom be careful with the matzo with the label of the label of the label and of course when piece broke off we can definitely be rely on the still considered shalom. When the mice are if it was used once someone made a mice and took a little piece off it should not be used again as far as making the the indentation in the we have three some make a and then continue cutting there some make a just a ball and some don't do it at all. If whatever reason there's no don't be don't feel terrible some hold there's no cover does not like does not like that but there is a sheet that is less of a the minute is if a person has a matzo if you could burn it and it looks like it came out in that way that would be even on you could do it especially especially shabbos should not be done how is that split you could grab the two by putting a kiss me between sticking it together. If a matzo is cracked and but it's still attached hold on to the to the smaller piece and if the matzo sustains that testing it's still a shalom. If it's stuck in the baking pan two challahs stuck in the baking pan leave them there to pull them off you might ruin it if one stuck to the other it's also really considered two not one because you made them two you can even make them like that. If the section is good if you separate them of course for the mighty the matzo the machine matzo today is not cut after baking but before so it's definitely a real shalom. If part of B stuck on to A so B is possible and A should be remove the extra a bun or a bagel that's sliced open is still a shalom if it passes the test if you have two pieces make a mighty on the two pieces if you have one shalom if you broke it before make it on two if not make it on the shalom and have the shalom. Can I explain?