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The Judean Experiment: A Prayer Quest That Ended Up In King David's Backyard - Ep.3
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Rabbi Jeremy & Tehila Gimpel continue on their journey to the Arugot Farm, the newest and deepest settlement in Judea. Tune in to hearing how their quest to find a deeper meaning of prayer guided them ultimately to the place King David composed the Psalms, the Biblical prayers of the People of Israel.
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one year ago my husband Jeremy and I
along with our six kids abandon every
shred of comfort and inertia to go on
the adventure of a lifetime
we said goodbye to the suburban dream to
start a farm deep in the heart of Judea
this is the story of our journey
what we've learned along the way and how
our lives have been transformed this is
our Judean experiment here's an entry
from Jeremy's journal way back from the
days right before our leap I can't sleep
my heart is beating way too fast for a
guy lying motionless in bed my house on
the farm isn't ready yet I can't believe
I really sold my home this was the only
way I could pull it off what if I jump
in in the waters actually split what
happens if they don't I'm exhausted
we've been traveling with all our kids
for more than a month homeless just
buying time until our house is done OSH
Cologne two very at Jerusalem a fraud
I'm so tired of packing and unpacking I
wonder if all of our stuff is stolen
for the last nine days I hired a Bedouin
to guard my house in our things because
we still don't have a door I had to
vacate all our possessions from Nevada
on Yelp
god bless those sweet buyers for letting
us keep our boxes and furniture in their
house for so long Hashem I'm walking
after you into the unknown into the
desert please guide us protect my
children into Gila give her strength
this is the scariest thing I've ever
done I'm so tired and I can't sleep
Hashem gave me Cola I just need to fight
through this time soon we'll be on the
mountain nothing will ever be the same
again
a new day a new life for the rest of my
life
[Music]
[Applause]
hi Jeremy Gimpel hello Tila compell
thank you for sharing that from your
journal you know it's so funny the way
that our minds work are so different how
your journals are literally just an
entry from every day and I look back to
my notebooks at that time and it's just
the mind of a madman it's like I
sometimes I'm writing memories sometimes
I'm writing prayers it's just one big
polygon eventually one day someone's
gonna go through these journals and
actually just institutionalize me it's
just the mind of a madman but it's cool
to look back and to read these struggles
that I was just trying to clarify that
thoughts racing through my mind just to
put them down on paper and just recently
I found that the aja kodesh his first
advice the PS that's never be the rabbi
have the Warsaw Ghetto is that everyone
needs to crystallize their thoughts by
writing them all down on paper and so
it's cool that I was intuitively doing
that I feel like I can't otherwise but
here I am now and it's just amazing
looking back on that over a year ago now
so now when you look back on that and
you compare it to where you are today
where we are today what does that look
like to you what does that make you feel
you know it's so funny because I'm like
reading here how tired I was this was
before we were even sued by the three
left-wing organizations funded by Europe
to destroy all of our farm so those are
the good times exactly you're writing in
the chilled-out yeah I'm already just
like kind of nervous about the whole
thing all of our money sort of at risk I
didn't realize that that was just the
beginning of the hard times like
traveling around for a month with our
kids
okay we've like you know we've travelled
on an RV across the United States we've
like gone on adventures before so okay
this was just the beginning of the hard
times really I mean when we first moved
into our house because we had that
challenge of not being able to move in
because we had sold our house had to
vacate our house but our house wasn't
finished even when we moved into our
house when a builder finishes a house
usually
a professional cleaning team comes and
cleans the house polishes it makes it
sparkling cleaned for you to walk into
our house was covered in dust filled
with things in the dust of the desert
had blown into our house because we
didn't have windows and we didn't have a
door there's just insane do you remember
the first night when we went to sleep on
our I won't call it beds because it
wasn't a bed that mat on the floor do
you remember do you remember what
happened when we laid down in bed what
happened we bounced onto our beds in
exhaustion and this huge plume of dust
came flying out of there and normal
people will be like well we should
change our sheets shouldn't we we were
just like looked like we're too tired
tonight we just slept in the dust pile
in the dust
yeah so looking back at that it's like
you know Bar Hashem our house is like
well and we have beds and we our house
is relatively clean before Shabbat and
here we are you know it's like
miraculous how far we've come and we're
lucky that we're on radio and not TV so
that you can tell people our house looks
normal before Siobhan and they don't
have to actually know the truth house
looks great you're doing a great job
thank you dear
so this week was a really big day for
the Jewish people yeah it seems like the
Jewish people are going through some
type of bear or some kind of
clarifications some sort of purification
which direction is this country headed
in the nation of Israel hasn't really
decided we are split down the middle so
our election day was a really special
day for our family we tried to think
what was the best day and you know in
Israel the election day as a vacation
day so we decided to do something
special with the kids we wanted to make
it into a real experience for them so
the first thing we did was to go
tomorrow to Mahalo to the tomb of the
patriarchs and pray with the kids for a
good outcome in the elections for for
the Jewish people and then we went to
Kiryat got there was a program called
zezima Amina moving to the right where
people from different settlements in
Judea and Samaria were sent to different
cities around Israel where voter turnout
is usually low and just sent to go from
house to house encouraging people to
vote and helping them to go vote if they
need help giving them a ride so we went
with our six kids
and the kids were so cute just running
from door to door anyway so when we were
in Morada Mahela I was asking you to the
kids I said you don't want you guys dive
in and you know pray your own special
prayer to Hashem um you know just from
your heart talk to him like he's your
Abba he's your father so all the kids
were praying and then no um I was kind
of helping him along and no I'm Azhar is
our four-year-old boy and he says
because Isis I just want to say thank
you - them I said wow that's really
beautiful it was and I I want to ask him
to send Messiah I said oh man that's so
beautiful norm and then he saw a feather
fly by and he says and I want to ask him
for more feathers whatever floats your
boat buddy
and so then we finished we finished
praying at Merida Micaela and we went we
went to carry out got to go from door to
door and we're in we went to one of the
poorest neighborhoods in Kiryat got
trying to find you know people that
needed help to get to the elections and
as we're going from one building to the
next suddenly norm sees this huge pile
of feathers okay I have no idea why
there was a huge pile of feathers and I
said didn't know him look Hashem
answered your prayer there's a huge pile
of feathers and he was just so thrilled
and I thought to myself I really patted
myself on the back and I said that was a
great parenting moment a great teachable
moment I really taught him about the
power of prayer and I really I did a
great job there and then suddenly I
realized I didn't do anything I wasn't
teaching him this wasn't a teachable
moment that I was turning into a great
moment Hashem was teaching him right
Hashem communicates with each person we
kind of think of it as like Hashem we
have our of course we have a
relationship with Hashem but our kids
we're like teaching them to even
children have a relationship with Hashem
and on each person's level of where
they're at and the things that matter to
them Hashem is training them I realize
like Hashem in his in his you know in in
ed norms level was training him to have
faith to believe in the power of his own
prayers and how lucky I was to just be a
witness to that amazing interaction
between Hashem and know'm we've been
talking a lot about prayer but
as I really feel like the heart of this
farm the ARU goat farm is prayer I feel
like the people that come here they're
not coming here only to learn Torah but
they're coming here to have some sort of
prayerful moment even if it's not in a
seed or or it's not in words they come
out here and they're having a prayerful
moment I don't know how else to explain
it you know sometimes when people walk
around our house we have this beautiful
deck
that's right off the ARU go to Valley
and literally every person that walks
there you hear they go ha ha each person
has their own little like breathtaking
moment where their breath is literally
taken away and you know in Hebrew breath
is mishima and a soul is neshama and
it's something about the place here that
has just takes your breath away it
touches your soul they're having like
this moment where their soul is
activated by coming out to these
mountains so a few days after we got
moved to the farm
your brother actually brought um a rabbi
out from from the United States one of
the top rabbis of the Orthodox Union in
the United States mhm and we took him
out to that spot right where you see the
magnificent our goat Valley and he says
wow isn't there Abraha that you should
say for this isn't there a blessing that
you should say for this and we kind of
scratched our heads and looked at each
other and we couldn't actually think of
a specific blessing that you're supposed
to say in such a situation is there is
there a brother for unbelievable
majestic beauty and later I kind of
reflected back on that moment and I said
that that I felt like that urge to make
a Braja to just call out a Shem to
praise it's it's something that it's
something that's beyond the ability to
put into a box or a category of law it's
just going back to that original soul
space that inspired people to write all
of the original broca's and that's and
that's the power you know that was the
power of this place is to is to awaken
that inner yearning just to call out and
praise Hashem
well that's what's just so crazy is that
when I first came out to this farm
almost four years ago I was going
through my own religious crisis at the
time and I remember I'm in Nevada Al and
there's a synagogue there called
the box because it is shaped like a box
it is like two caravans that are smushed
together and people get there and that's
sort of what we have right now for a
show until today in this beautiful
community and Nevada Danielle and I
remember just looking around and it just
looked like everyone was saying
watermelon over and over again just
watermelon watermelon watermelon
watermelon watermelon water Mon and I'm
like are their ears hearing what their
mouth is saying are they talking to God
are they like what it's just it looked
like Catholic priests just mumbling
Latin in words that they didn't
understand and I just I just didn't I
just it was driving me nuts
it was driving me nuts and probably it
was just I'm just projecting my own
issues onto these these people are
probably the holiest people in the world
I just couldn't do it anymore that
reminds me of something funny that you
taught me once a few years ago that the
word for the Yiddish word the Jewish
word for prayer is Dominic and Dominic
actually comes in the Y it in the
original Yiddish from the word
dolphining DAF DAF means a page so
there's there's this kind of sense
sometimes that that I know you were
having we're just turning pages you were
literally just felt like you were
turning pages or like I'm dolphining I'm
off DAF turning page page but nothing
nothing internally was actually
happening to you well so just what I
feel is that I want to live a guided
life how do I live a guided life I want
a prayer is the key prayer is the
beginning prayer is our relationship
prayer is our words it's how shadows
responds it's everything all in one and
I wanted to take my prayer seriously I
wanted it to be meaningful I wanted it
to be impactful I wanted it to be
sincere and I was like that's it I'm out
of the synagogue I just found these
mountains here which are just
breathtaking I'm like that's it that's
my new synagogue and I used to come here
every day and go to the mountain
literally right outside my staff house
and I wanted to sing the morning prayers
so I picked up a guitar that I'd fiddled
around with a little bit in high school
and I came out here and I wanted to sing
cicadas Umrah and then from a place of
song you enter into the shamanic
Montessori meaning the prophets gave us
the technology the the map of how to
achieve some sort of spiritual moment in
prayer and it says that the first part
of the morning prayers is
called cicadas Umrah passages of song
it's not called su ke de miel Mool
passages of mumbling it's called
passages of song in the truth is in
Sephardic communities they've actually
maintained that tradition and many of
the things are sung in Sheol only in the
Ashkenazic world did we just maintain
the structure the names of the sections
of the prayer but we just mumble through
it and I was like that's it I want a
guitar I'm coming out to the mountains
and I want my prayer to be meaningful so
you have to understand at that time
there was literally nothing here on the
our goat farm Yossi and Rhoni had just
paved the road and there was like a
small little structure that had a like a
skeleton of a structure with just stone
on the outside and the main retreat
centre also had just a like two sides of
it were also just a skeleton it looked
like an ancient ruin of the stones on a
mountaintop with no water no electricity
no trees and there was just a paved road
to the middle of nowhere so it's just
out in nature and so I'm kind of driving
up into the mountains into this like
deep settlement through these caravans
onto this mountaintop and Here I am
alone in the mountains kind of walking
around no one's around
no one's it's just me alone in the
mountains with a guitar and in that
moment you know I felt a little bit
crazy I'm alone in the mountains with
the guitar that I don't know how to play
reading words that many of them I don't
even understand and I'm trying to figure
out how to connect to God and as I'm
sitting down in these mountains here it
was like it was the have the first day
it happened I had like a moment it was
like it's a moment that sort of it's
captured in time it's it's the time
almost stops and you're able to sort of
see yourself from the outside looking in
and all of a sudden I had like this
moment of like oh my goodness if my
grandfather's grandfather could see me
right now I am in the mountains of Judea
returning from an exile that I was born
in Atlanta Georgia and I'm trying to
figure out how to reconnect to the God
of Israel in these mountains and I just
felt so loved by my ancestors by Hashem
who allowed me to even have that vision
and that feeling it was just so because
you know you got a Libya a little bit
Abraham had to have felt a little bit
crazy
the
prophets had to feel a little bit crazy
people that are doing something that's
sort of out of the just heard of what
everyone else is doing they have to feel
a little bit different but in that
different Ness is a little bit of a
preciousness and I just felt really
precious by Hashem that Here I am trying
my hardest to just really pray with all
of my heart and and so I wanted to start
so I opened up the prayer book and here
we open it up to mo Danny the first
verse the first sentence that a Jew says
when he wakes up in the morning but I
didn't know how to play the guitar and I
didn't know what to do so I knew how to
play one guitar from my old days in high
school I only knew how to play one song
I'm from Atlanta Georgia and so my
background is a little bit in southern
rock and roll so thanks to Hootie and
the Blowfish I knew how to play one song
and then this is what happened
funny
[Music]
I need
[Music]
you know a friend of mine said you know
Jeremy modani I just loved the music
video I love the song I been singing it
all day thank you so much for bringing
that song down and like bringing it down
I mean some songs were channeled maybe
through me but that one has really
brought down by Hootie and the Blowfish
and so you know I was coming out here
and then eventually like I wanted I just
went through all of the morning prayers
and I just trying to read King David's
words and trying to like figure out what
melodies would fit and all of a sudden
these beautiful melodies came to me and
that's like each part of the prayer is
going forward I'm like developing more
and more songs and month after month I'm
just coming out to these mountains so
inspired all alone everyone is going to
synagogue and I'm alone in the mountains
of Judea with my guitar best way to
start my day ever you know for 15 years
we were married and I had no clue that
you knew how to play the guitar at all
and subtly you picked up the guitar and
started playing the guitar okay that's
kind of cool I love to find out new
things about my man that I didn't know
before
dad you're like oh now I don't only know
how to play guitar I'm uh I'm a composer
and suddenly he's writing songs and
playing songs and after a few weeks I
couldn't I couldn't even imagine Jeremy
not walking around with a guitar every
single place he went and after after
about a month of fiddling around the
guitar you're like an album album it was
seriously it was about after a month and
you're and you're like I think one day
I'm like an album I mean in a few months
[Laughter]
you know months I just kept on coming
back to this place and kept on trying to
sing to God and then after about 6 or 7
months like wow these melodies are
beautiful I have music too cicadas
around the world needs to know this and
then it took me about three and a half
years to finally finish the album but I
brought the best musicians in Judea to
come and and now there's music to the
prayers
beautiful only later did I find out that
the ARU goat farm is positioned exactly
in the mountains of zeef in the Bible in
the 23rd chapter of the book of Samuel
it says that King David fled to the
mountains of zeef to hide from King Saul
before he became King Saul wanted to
kill him he was jealous David had just
killed Goliath he was gaining more and
more popularity Saul actually loses it
he becomes a little bit insane and hunts
David down and David runs to the
mountains of the ARU go to farm the
Midrash says that most of the Book of
Psalms was written in the mountains of
zeef before David became King why did
David run to the IRA go to farms when he
was hiding from shell because 15 minutes
away is Bethlehem now we have a small
flock of sheep here on the farm we take
the Sheep out in the morning and we
bring them back in the evening but the
bed wins here in the area they take
their sheep out 4 7 8 9 10 days at a
time so when David was a boy he used to
live very similar to the way the bed
ones live now and from Bethlehem he
would come out into these mountains for
8 9 10 days at a time he knew how to
live in these desert mountains he knew
where the water was he knew how to find
food he knew the caves
he knew all of these back Saul had no
chance of finding him this was his
backyard and then only to realize that
here I am singing the words of King
David in the place where King David
wrote those words
she's like my prayer would took was
taken to like a whole other level where
she knows growing up in Atlanta the
Bible was like fairy tales and legends
and stories but you come to Israel and
the Torah in the Tanakh it's like 3
dimensional it's not black letters on
white paper it's a living color and
you're inside the story and you're at
the same places where it happened and
all the sudden now I'm able to like add
on to King David's words music to his
words you know something I grew up in
Atlanta Georgia and I had you know III
was my parents sent me to a non-jewish
a day school for a few years of my life
my parents were programming me to be an
international businessman since I was a
little kid
they sent me to summer camp where I was
learning Russian they sent me to a day
school where I was learning Spanish and
so I had a bunch of friends and a lot of
my friends liked rap music and I never
really liked rap music I liked rock and
roll and only later of three or four
years like I'm now almost 43 years ago
someone told me do you know what the
word rap means and I said well do you
know what the word rap mean Stila it's a
word it's a thing
rhythm and yeah it's an acronym rhythm
and poetry and I never knew that and I
was like oh my goodness King David was
the first rapper he's the first man in
human history to ever put rhythm to
poetry and here I ended up putting my
own rhythm to his poetry and I just felt
like the moments here my first
connection with these mountains was a
connection of just a love affair with
this land just in an attempt to try to
connect to the divine and without us
even knowing the heart of the ARU good
farm the buildings that were building
here the groups that were bringing here
it's really all centered around prayer
and without us really knowing the fact
that this place was destined to be a
center of prayer was already encoded
into the stones of this mountain
millennia ago long before we were born
this what this place was destined to be
and just by trying to figure out how to
align myself with Hashem to try to
figure out how to really tune myself
into his will and to really pray from my
heart I ended up in these mountains it's
just marvelous so for me to move out to
the farm has also been a really profound
journey into the world of feel of prayer
when you know when I used to work in a
law firm oh just you know I was always
trying to sneak in a little you know a
little morning prayer on the way and
part of my dream was that one day and
we're gonna come out to the farm and
we're just gonna simplify our life and
I'm gonna have so much time to pray and
my prayers are just gonna be so
beautiful but then the reality kind of
smacked me in the face we moved here and
we were working so hard to unpack our
stuff and not lose our kids and try to
just make some sort of order out of our
life
I remember three days right after we
moved here I suddenly realized I had
literally just forgotten to pray for
three days and I felt so bad I was so
embarrassed all of a sudden you have to
understand that we didn't have a
bathroom we didn't have a kitchen we
didn't have bars on our windows our
stuff was everywhere everything was
covered in dust you have to go a little
bit easy on yourself yeah well so it was
at that point I remember three days and
I said it's not like just living here on
the farm is going to make my life into a
work of art and prayer it's something
that I'm gonna have to actually really
work on I have to cut out time and make
time to focus on prayer and so um you
know as a mom of six kids that not that
much time in the day so the time that I
chose was I'm just going to get up
before the kids get up you know really
early at sunrise and that's going to be
my time to focus on prayer and the most
amazing thing started happening I
started going out to that balcony that
you were just talking about Jeremy the
way it where you can see all of the ARU
goat um
you know the our goat River and the
beautiful views that are here on the
farm and I started going out there in
the morning and watching the sunrise and
when I discovered by making this special
time to go out to Dobbin while everyone
else was sleeping and to just go out
into nature I I discovered that early in
the morning there is simply the most
amazing cosmic drama going on you know
the breath at you the blessing that you
say right before the Shema is your tear
or over a whole ship are you blessed
Hashem is the one who makes light and
creates a darkness and right here on the
farm you can see the Sun rising on one
side over the medicine Simo of over the
mountains of mono and shining on the
Dead Sea but on the other side because
there's no streetlights here or any kind
of artificial lighting you can still see
the stars in the pitch black sky on the
other side and actually watch the light
go to battle against the darkness and
slowly creep through the darkness and
turn it into light instead of saying
that brooklet
9:00 in the morning where nothing is
really happening I was able to actually
start feeling the prayers in the time
that you're supposed to say them the
time that they were written it will so
look at this in Psalm 1
it says awake Oh guitar and harp it says
an NFL but I'm gonna say that as guitar
cuz that's how I connected to it it's
some sort of string instrument awake Oh
Neville and harp I shall awaken the dawn
I will thank you among the nations
Hashem I will sing to you among the
peoples and I thought to myself that is
just amazing that in fact based on that
verse in the Book of Psalms the first
codified law in Judaism you opened up
the Chohan aruna it says that a man
should wake up before the dawn Shaya hey
whom are Arietta Shahar that he should
awaken the dawn says instead of the dawn
waking us it's us awakening the dawn us
greeting the dawn instead of the dawn
greeting us instead of being woken up by
the Sun being reactive as your first
action in the morning it's saying I am
taking proactive measures to awaken the
dawn so that this experience of starting
to wake up early and daven outside in
nature it's solved for me this mystery
that's always kind of bothered me in my
mind about the oral tradition you know
that the first codification of all of
the Torah chevelle pet all of our oral
law in Judaism starts is in the Mishnah
and it starts in the tractate of Bravo
so I would kind of imagine I mean if I
was the one writing the Mishnah and
writing down all of our oral tradition I
would want to start with you know
something spiritual something meaningful
something that touches the heart you
know what's like the purpose of life
right then the mysteries of Judaism what
is what is the mission to start with
like the very one when when rabbi yehuda
nasi comes and says this is the oral
tradition here everyone listen up what
does he start with what time are we
allowed to start saying the Creator
what time do you dive in what time do
you pray and I have always thought to
myself wow isn't that a little bit
technical and I mean not not that
there's not place for the technical you
know parameters of Prayer and that's
okay but does that really have to be the
opening line couldn't it start something
it was a little bit more deep into the
meaning of prayer well you know the more
I've continued to explore prayer
and the Jewish life in general it seems
as though encoded in the biblical
calendar encoded within time our moments
energies opportunities where we can draw
close to Hashem exactly and it is the
prophetic order it's like a key given to
us when is the most opportune time to
pray in the morning let me tell you it's
with the sunrise there is an energy
opportunity at that time that you can't
have at any other time of the day
exactly that's what I realize it that
the that the rabbi's the sages were
giving us not just technical guidelines
but giving us just the most amazing
advice yeah you can dive in a little bit
later the Mishna says you can dive in a
little bit past sunrise but the ideal is
to get up really early and there's some
sort of energy that's in the world and
you have to you can try this and take or
you don't to take my word for it
anything you know you can try this and
feel it I've yet to meet someone who
doesn't feel it when they do it there's
something about that time and the energy
that's around in that exact moment that
just lends itself to an amazing morning
prayer so you have to understand my
relationship with tequila and least in
my mind and I think in hers was really
based on prayer you know we were really
young when we got married she was 19 I
was 22 and I felt like the decision was
just too much for me to make and so
first I did as I outsourced the decision
to my parents I said tequila here is the
phone number of my parents you can give
them a call you can invite them out to
dinner and if my parents approve then we
can move forward but I'm not making this
decision without my mom and dad yeah
that was really cute jeromy's like you
know what would be so nice if you went
out to dinner with my parents
and I said oh you and your parents no
not with me and my parents just my
parents let me go out with just your
parents can do that well you know would
be so cool if you called them and asked
them out for dinner yes but you did very
well as you passed with flying colors
listen my parents were marriage
therapist for 20 years in Atlanta
Georgia I'm like if I before I get
married I want to make sure that my
parents
that she's okay and they loved you
anyway after you know we had to make
decisions very quickly and I just felt
like ultimately when big decisions come
I just leave it up to God I pray with
all of my heart and I just hope for the
best in fact you know King David's son
Solomon when he became king he had this
dream where Hashem appeared him Solomon
was also a prophet and Hashem said to
him I give you one wish
anything you want you're the new king of
Israel wish away it was like the Jewish
Aladdin's story I mean Aladdin was
inspired by this biblical story except
he didn't get three wishes he got one
wish and when you ask people and I ask
people all the time what did Solomon
wish for almost everyone says well he
wished for wisdom because over and over
again the Bible refers to Solomon is the
wisest of all men but if you look in the
text he didn't ask for wisdom at all he
asked for a live show man a listening
heart and that's something totally
different that's not you know wisdom is
in the intellect it's in the IQ but a
listening heart is an ability to tune in
to an inner intuition that Hashem speaks
to you through that in your heart is his
eye in the king of Israel and the truth
is everyone is the king of their own
home and we all have to make decisions
who are we going to marry what are we
going to do am I going to go out to war
am I going to raise taxes everyone has
to make decisions how do we make
decisions Solomon said if I have one
wish to make a Shem I want you to give
me a listening heart that when I need to
make decisions I'm able to tune in to
know what decision is best to make and
because of that he became known as the
wisest of all men because he had the
most amazing decisions because he was
tuning in so at 22 I was doing my very
best to tune into the will of God saying
like I have this girl in front of me she
seems amazing is this what I'm supposed
to do and I feel like ever since then
every time we have some type of
challenge fights issues I feel like it's
almost always solved through our joint
effort in prayer but more than prayer in
some ways is that why you laughing
because sometimes I get so mad at you
that I don't even want to explain to you
why I'm mad at you and I'm just like oh
you better pray you better pray but do
you know why are you moaning you better
pray about it
the problem that I think even um even in
some ways more fundamental than the
basis of our relationship being in
prayer and I feel like I don't even
understand how people can be married
without that is our mission to Gila and
I were married with a common mission it
was like a covenant to our marriage that
first and foremost we are together with
a purpose to grow and to develop we have
a purpose together to draw closer to a
shipment to become the best people that
we can be in this lifetime and the truth
is sometimes I'm developmentally
challenged I kind of chuckle to myself
when you say when you say the covenant
the covenant that our marriage is based
on because Jeremy is such an intense guy
you know when you invite somebody a
family over for Shabbat lunch
most people they talk about how is work
what's the weather how are you kids
doing Jeremy's a pretty intense guy
however we sometimes invite people over
we had over a bit of the you know our
neighbors in Nevada young we sit down
with him for the first time and he says
so what's the Covenant upon which your
marriage is based some people are kind
of like we both like the Grateful Dead
[Laughter]
well I think that you know if you know
some people in the Western world when
they get married the question is really
simple it's like you know what does this
person do for me and what does that
person do for me and that's the question
and eventually maybe they're not going
to do a good enough job or maybe what
you want is gonna change but I feel like
in the biblical marriage in a Jewish
concept we are both on schleede we are
both sent here on a mission and joining
together on a mission outside of us is
really what brings us together I had a
beautiful doctor friend a non Jewish guy
from Texas who told me write as talketh
going through marital issues and I'm
seeking this his advice and he said to
me that marriage is like a triangle and
you and your wife are on the bottom
corners and at the top of the triangle
is really a Kurdish bar who is a chef
and the closer you draw to him the
closer you draw to each other and I feel
like if there is a mission outside of us
that we are both focused on trying to
achieve that mission and for us I think
it's to serve Israel to serve Hashem
then as we continue on that mission we
draw closer to each other
I think it's all rooted in a deep belief
that we can really change ourselves that
we can transform our lives that we can
change the way we look we can change the
way we feel we could change the way we
act we can fix our attributes if we work
on it if we pray on it and we're
consistent we can really transform our
lives but then sometimes I look at the
fights that you and I have and I feel
like they are the same fights that we
had when we were in our early 20s and
I'm almost 40 now because you don't
actually listen to me no I'm listening
but I just somehow it's just like the
same and that you're the fights I hear
the fights reverberating throughout the
generations of the Jewish people I feel
like you and I have been having the same
fights for multiple lifetimes already
now and now that we sort of live a more
biblical life on a farm I can just hear
Jeremy what Jeremy what are you outside
with the chickens for with the children
or away we have to get them out to
school like what are you doing just the
same fights over and over again son one
and I really do believe that we can
transform ourselves but on the other
hand I see that no matter how hard I try
I keep on making the same mistakes over
and over again yeah consider the
possibility that the the reference to
past lives might just be an excuse for
not listening it's like hey baby you
should try to like do what I asked oh
yeah we've been fighting this fight for
500 years though we've been doing this
forever oh you don't even know it goes
back like multiple reincarnations I
don't know if that's like a great excuse
it reminds me I heard this researcher
talking on the radio about this document
that they discovered from about five
hundred years ago and one of the Jew
from one of the shuttles it was either a
diary or a letter that he was writing to
his rabbi and he's talking about how
miserable his wife makes him all she
does is yell at me because I I I'm
always missing the bedpan and she always
gets upset that I went to the bathroom
at night and I missed the bedpan and I
thought to myself wow nothing's really
changed like women are still getting mad
at men for the same exact thing that was
just about putting down the toilet seat
nothing has changed but anyway I'm not
I'm not quite as optimistic as you about
the possibility of having dramatic
change I think you can change within the
deck you've been handed you know what I
mean like you're not you're going to be
able to move things a little cause I'll
say that if a person can change one
attribute one meda it's a huge huge
compliment because it's hard it's hard
to fundamentally change the well I don't
know if you can necessarily change an
ingrown innate attribute like a someone
I for example suffer from anxiety and
from nervousness I'm just a nervous guy
but I was able in some ways to overcome
all the fears and all of the tensions
and all of the anxieties that this move
had and there were so many and so even
though you may have a certain tendency
towards nervousness
maybe you can't fundamentally change the
nervousness but you can transform your
lives to not let that inhibit you so you
can grow in that way it reminds me of
our friend who ate over at our house for
Shabbat and she said how did you guys
get married so young I mean there was so
much you know more time you might have
changed you know the brain continues to
grow until the age of 25 how do you know
that you know when you got married maybe
your brain was gonna continue growing
and you wouldn't have been a good match
for one another and I said well you know
I've been with Jeremy since he was 22
and I can tell you with absolute
certainty that there was no continued
brain growth so rest your heart assured
that we didn't have any problems in that
department well on the subject of
changing growth something that I've
really grown in since we moved to the
farm was in my relationship with the
Jewish prayer Brook with the seed or a
seed or and I have always had kind of a
complicated relationship because it's a
lot of liturgy it's a lot to cover like
in the morning when you have to cover
there's a lot of pages there's a lot of
ground to cover so there were two things
that happen to me in my relationship
with the seed or because well part of it
is that you know all these all of these
prayers are written down and you
sometimes say to yourself am I just
supposed to be reading somebody else's
words all day long how do I connect to
these words so two things happened to
help me the first was that I came across
of dove zingers book it's called Tico
and Fela T it actually just came out a
little while back in English called may
our prayers be pleasant and it's um it's
an English translation it's if you could
believe such a thing it's a cookbook a
recipe book
for prayer-meeting rhabdo vizier the
Rosh Yeshiva of mcore hyeme
the macroeconomy shiva it was a real
pioneer and Jewish spirituality he said
I'm not writing a book of philosophy
about prayer telling you what you need
to thinking what you need to do I'm
making a cookbook it's a book of recipes
of of of exercises that you can choose
from you don't need to do anything
everything and he has just a huge amount
of exercises there that you can do to
enhance your prayers and one of the
things he says is that you don't have to
look at the seed or as something that
you have to say every single solitary
word he says when you go to a restaurant
you don't order everything on the menu
you order maybe an appetizer an entree a
drink if you're really lucky you order a
dessert right do you know what I mean
sure well the truth is you see in
yeshiva were trained that if you come
late to Dominic well then there's
actually a system barouche amar ashram
first hallelujah last hallelujah each
debauch you have like and so it becomes
a checklist oh I gotta say this got to
say this got to say this got to say this
and I think Reb Dov's finish here his
like inside his just his guidance is to
say that the see door is so vast written
over so many centuries don't look at it
as a checklist look at it as a menu and
say are you in the mood for some praise
are you in the mood for thanks are you
in the mood for yearning and calling out
to God at this point and instead of
trying to run through all of the
checklists it's to sort of see where
your spirit is guiding you and then find
it within the seed or yeah so that
really so his book that that insight and
his book in general really help me if
you if you can get your hand if anybody
can get their hands on that book it's a
real it's a real pearl it truly helps
the inner work of prayer
um the second thing that happened to me
was was this kind of dream that came to
me
where I was sort of looking at the
Jewish prayer brook at the sea door and
suddenly I started to imagine all of the
people that wrote those prayers and
thinking to myself because you know the
Jewish prayer book didn't come together
all at once it was a compilation of just
a huge amount of totally anonymous
people who took time out of a life that
was surely
filled with many struggles took time to
write down something that came from
their hearts and what came out of their
hearts touched other people's hearts
enough to the point that it was worth it
for them to try to somehow come across a
scroll and a quill and ink and pass this
along from generation to generation
until it was canonized in the Jewish
sitter and they didn't sign their names
on it and they didn't give any hint to
who they are most of them we don't even
know who the authors were and if we do
know it's just from historic study it's
not because there's any hint to it in
the seed or and the humility that these
people had to share their inner their
enterprise and their inner hearts with
us I used to look at this Edoras like a
burden as this liturgy that I'm stuck
saying and now I realize that it's this
that from this dream I realize it's this
gift that all of these that so many
different people had to come together to
make and the dedication that the Jewish
people had to have over the generations
to keep these from you know throughout
all of our suffering in the in the Exile
to keep these prayers that came out of
different people's hearts and compiled
them together into one book that went
from hand to hand and from father to son
is such is such an amazing gift that we
get to now be back in Eretz Israel and
bring their words to life it's as if
we're bringing them back to life you
know that the deepest messages that they
each had and with such humility left us
without even signing their names we're
able to now speak for them and even
though they're gone we can bring their
spirits back to life here in the land
yeah you know Abraham Joshua Heschel
says that a journey through the sea door
is really communing with the eternal
spirit of Israel as like the Jewish
people have been praying throughout the
centuries the most touching prayers were
recorded saved and passed down to the
next generation and then more prayers
were added and as you're reading and
praying through the book you're praying
through the centuries communing with all
the spirits that have brought us until
today yeah and it's I'll give you an
example right you made a song you're
just talking about it about Madani right
the first prayer modani is the first
prayer that every jew says in the
morning every small child it's the first
thing they learn when they go to nursery
school every little right our our
four-year-old child knows how to say
modani
I didn't know who even wrote modani
until you told me I was gonna surprise
you and tell you right now but now I
realize that I'm in advanced dimension
I've already four
that I've told you okay well I'll tell
everybody else okay let's see if you
remember Jeremy no wrote it no I was
trying to circumvent that question by
saying you've already no no no come on
dude you're a rabbi and you wrote a song
about Moe Danni you don't know who wrote
Moe Danni an entire book on so Kate is
near us okay Reb anus Oh would you like
me to open your eyes once again see
that's the joy of getting to talk with
Jeremy all the time is that just forgets
what I say get to thrill him time and
time again else have a problem with
names we're not very good with names
very good with faces names not so much
so no one knows exactly who wrote it but
you well that's not a few because I'm
about to tell you who probably wrote it
we know who probably wrote it by Rabbi
Moshe even you da mafia he was a mystic
in spot in the 1500s he died in the year
1610 and how did his prayer come to
exist he actually didn't write any books
he had a little group of people that
came together they called it ha very
mucky Veeam friends that are listening
and for listening friends and they came
together as a group of mystics trying to
dedicate their lives to the service of
Hashem and they would meet and just try
to discuss what they were struggling
with and develop their develop their
worship and so this rabbi he wrote this
journal called said Ariel and it was
about him trying to make his days a
beautiful service of God and he wrote
down his schedule like I get up in the
morning and I do this and in the
afternoon I do this and in the evening I
do this and he's writing everything he
does and he wrote in this diary of his
and the first thing I say when I wake up
in the morning is modani and he writes
this prayer that he made of modani and
somehow when his son went to Europe and
somehow this journal went from hand to
hand from person to person and someone
read this prayer and thought that it was
so touching that he wrote it down for
himself and somehow that got passed from
person to person until it was integrated
to be one of the most fundamental Jewish
prayers become and it's actually really
recent you're talking about the 17th
century this is not a very very old
prayer but somehow he just touched
people in a really profound way just the
the idea of waking up in the morning and
saying thank you - ahem as the first
state of mind that you go into
in the morning and and to think you know
he was so he was so humble and he also
was so poor you know he wrote in his in
his journal about how much he longed to
just one day have a beautiful menorah
for Hanukkah and his the whole life he
never actually said that the greatest
sorrow in his life was that he was never
able to light Hanukkah candles in a
beautiful way because he couldn't even
afford to buy respectable candles and
that a person like that took time out of
his life we could be working or making
money or trying to increase his material
possessions took his time to write down
how he's making an effort to sanctify
every moment of every day so that people
could look back and just you know glean
little pieces of inspiration it's such a
gift
and now his prayer is the prayer of all
Jewish people in the world that's
amazing hmm you know I just I feel like
in my life I just want to grow closer to
Hashem but I don't really know what that
means that's also for me why I think the
best option is to try to live a guided
life because I don't know what else to
do other than that I know that there is
some sort of higher intelligence I mean
god I don't know what that word means
anymore like it's just clearly there's a
system here there's an intelligence here
there is something that's going on but
it's like there was something before
light before time before space it's just
beyond his ways are not our ways and
it's like I don't even know where to
begin starting but I was taught once
again by Abraham Joshua Heschel that you
can find Hashem in deeds you can find
him in deeds if you actually
wholeheartedly do an act of cressid
wholeheartedly do an act of kindness for
someone else you really give them
charity with a whole heart that they
feel the love and you feel the love
coming back in that moment you can
experience the divine now we can't
understand God but we can sort of Intuit
his ways and we can encounter him in
deeds and we can encounter him in
prayers and I feel like our life here on
the farm what I wanted it to be was that
somehow our life is a prayer that
everyone that we bring into this place
the messages that we broadcast out from
this place is in some ways just a full
embodiment of
I mean I think there are so many
opportunities to see
Hashem's presence in our lives it's like
sometimes are these things they seem
small but at the moment that they happen
they feel like I said I'm kind of just
picking out and waving at you if they're
we called them a spice cart last time
yeah space cart so I think it's
important to I find it really helpful
tor just write them down and remember
them because I mean in moments of doubt
you can look back at them and draw
strength like the story that happened to
us a few weeks ago we were at the beach
and it was on Shabbat and we were here
in ashqelon for Shabbat and jeremy's uh
um brothers family was there as well and
we went down to the park and the park
was magnificent it was packed with just
hundreds of people having fun on Shabbat
it felt it felt so like like Redemption
times right everyone was just happy and
together and beautiful families and
suddenly my sister-in-law Dina realizes
that they've lost the key to their
apartment now we're on the beach right
imagine we're on the beach and there's
hundreds of people there in this park
that's right next to the beach and just
like sand and grass and stuff and it's
just finding a key on a beach is
literally like finding a needle in a
haystack and so everyone is frantically
running running running running running
I'm like there is no chance of finding
this on our own our strengths will not
allow us to find a key on a beach it's
just not going to happen so I took I
took out my Psalms and I just started
dominating I said ah Shem please help us
they only have one key they're here with
six kids for Shabbat you know it's if
they can't get into their apartment it's
gonna be a real problem and I'm just
diving and praying and in the middle of
my prayer this guy comes up to me kind
of interrupts me now you have to descend
there's hundreds of people on the beach
he picks me out of all of the people
totally randomly a guy I've never seen
in my life he says hi sorry to bother
you my daughter lost her doll have you
maybe seen her doll I said buddy you
think you got problems
we've lost the key to our apartment
we've lost the key to our apartment I
said when you when you find our key I'll
start worrying about your doll he says
was it a red key I said yeah it was a
red key he goes oh well that's so funny
he says yeah I just noticed this red key
in the weirdest spot in the middle of
the beach and I thought to myself that's
odd so he led us to the key and then
ironically enough my little niece had
just seen a doll and was able to show
the guy his doll and what are the odds
that this guy was gonna pick me out of
the crowd to ask me where his kids doll
was there was absolutely no reason we
hadn't had any kind of interaction
before and it was like Hashem had
planned the entire had orchestrated this
entire thing and it's just that like a
small is that one of those small
miracles but they make you you know you
walk away from was this feeling I was
looking out for that sometimes like you
know when you really are able to tap
into a sincere prayer it is a antenna
there are a magnet for pulling in
Providence and you know probably one of
the deepest prayers is for us to make
our will his will I feel like that's
what I wanted this farm to really be I
feel like this is what he wanted how do
I make my will his will and then his
will will become my will if we just are
in tune in in line with what he wants in
the world then our will will be his
woman there's clearly a will in this
universe a will to survive a will to
life ledges life all around us everyone
is willing everyone's working everyone's
doing this the will of all wills the the
one that is giving this desire into the
world and all the world is working so
harmoniously together you look at the
all of the world of nature I mean people
are so inspired by it they have like The
Lion King theme song of the circle of
life
everything is so harmonious and a
perfect ecosystem of an exact balance
the will is working so perfectly and in
harmony except in human life all of a
sudden in human life people feel
separate disillusioned miserable de
murdered chaos pollution it's like all
of the hewn of the universe is in
perfect harmony and then there is little
old man that is just bumbling around on
antidepressants totally confused and
disoriented what's going on and I think
that prayer is really the only answer to
realign us with the will of all wills
and to hopefully align our will with his
will and I think that is the core of
really the chuhwa movement it is just
aligning ourselves with Hashem will
how do we do that and I think the answer
is prayer so you know this has been
almost a four-year journey since I first
stepped out into these mountaintops and
it started in prayer and in the middle
its prayer and the end is prayer and you
know bar Hashem you know after so many
years now we've put out a music album of
prayer with a book about prayer and I
feel like this is just the introduction
of another book that eventually will be
written when we're 70 but I felt like
there were so many things our self a
self but and so if any of you are
interested you go to youtube right now
just type in Jeremy Gimpel music five
music videos are out there and it's like
broadcasting the Psalms of King David to
the world from the place that they were
written and so hopefully this will be a
baked Fela House of Prayer for All
Nations or one step closer I mean I mean
I pray that we continue to grow in our
to feel an upper dentition all of our
listeners one who doesn't respect and
value his past he's not worth the honor
of isn't present and has no right to a
future what I promise you that I respect
and value the past and I please God
would love to see honor in the present
and I know that all of us have a right
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