The Jewish Truth About Astrology | Rabbi Shais Taub & Yitzchok Aharon Pinkesz

Okay, welcome to a new podcast, another edition of Soulwords the podcast. I have conversations with interesting people about interesting things. Today my guest is a very interesting person who has an unconventional specialty in the world of Judeaic studies that is astrology. But I I know some of you are worried astrology I thought that's uh anathema in Judaism. Okay, we're going to talk about that. He wrote a book called Kosher Astrology and trust me, he's a he's a rabbi. He knows what he's talking about and he knows how to keep it kosher and you'll see we talk about it. But the most interesting thing to me personally because enough about you. What do you think about me, you know, uh is that he did my chart and he's going he goes through uh my chart and you'll find out all of my personal details according to the stars. We want to thank our sponsors for today's episode, the Jebis Choice, fine foods, bringingers, purveyors of kickl and herring and all types of food that you might have at a schol or any type of really anytime 3 in the morning while you're uh going through your emails and uh you just want to dip some crackers into some uh chopped white fish. the Reb's Choice. Uh their website is uh rebeschoice.com, but you can pick up their fine selection of delicacies of real Hamisha Jewish food at all quality kosher grocerers. Okay, check it out. We're going to talk about kosher astrology with my new friend Reb Yeetszk Aharin Pinus coming at you right now. >> Reitzk, welcome. >> Thank you. It's such a pleasure to be here. >> This is actually not your first time back. It's not your first time at the Soul Warts House, but that's correct. >> It's a secret. Uh this studio also is the uh second studio for the uh from the inside out >> podcast with Rifka and you just >> made an appearance here on that and now you're back at Soulward's house. >> Um I've had this book kosher astrology for a while. You sent it to me. In fact, you sent it to me and then you showed up here to do their podcast and you said did you read my book yet? I've had it on my nightstand for months and it's in the pipeline. Okay, fine. And I have not finished it, but I started it. It's it's enthralling. Um, I'm going to give you a chance to talk a little bit about about the book, but I'm going to set you up like this, okay? Cuz to me, this was the first question I had. the first thing I looked for in the book and to your credit it's the first thing the book addresses [laughter] which is as a [snorts] an observant Jew you know you hear about astrology and you equate it with all types [sighs] of idolatry and in fact in Talmudic uh dictim the word for idolatry is serving the stars and the constellations so the first thing I'm like I know I I know that it's permissible and I have a sense an amateur opinion what the parameters of permissibility will be but that was the first thing I look for and I open it up and that's the first thing you address so if you were to explain to someone who had this question is this okay is this kosher and the title of the book obviously kosher astrology okay and also another thing I just want to credit you I'm not even letting you talk over here but I like how the first section is very it was very part one is not called is astrology kosher. It's a statement. Astrology is kosher. Okay. Fine. So that's the thesis. Explain it to me. >> Yes. Okay. So first of all, thank you so much. Yeah, that was that was a great introduction. Okay. >> Um the thing is astr it's so confusing. It's so confusing. Astrology and Judaism is so confusing because we have so many mixed messages. We have thousands of years of of Torah sources and rishonum and talking about it and we got such mixed messages and that's why it's so confusing. So let's break it down. >> Okay, >> so when people ask me if it's astrology is kosher, I like to ask them are animals kosher, >> right? So it's not a yes or no answer. The [laughter] answer depends. There are kosher animals and there are not kosher animals. And it's the same thing with astrology. There's kosher version of astrology and not kosher version. So to start out with like so for much of history going back thousands of years the way people practice astrology is they worship the planets literally idol worship. So that's really why >> that's pretty obviously >> yes they not okay right and they believe that the planets >> by worshiping the planets meaning to try to appease the planets favor. Yes, they they created like so they did all kind something called astral magic where they it's sorcery combined with astrology. So what they did was they did all kinds of spells, incantations, they took blood and hair from animals and they did all these things in order to serve the planet and they believed if they served the planet then so for example they connected to a statue if they buried the statue under the the competitor's store then he would go out of business because [laughter] they this because that was their worship towards a star. So it's it it was used to harm your enemies and to benefit yourselves. >> Just so in case people don't follow the logistic jump, the statue was the representation of the constellation. >> Yes. Like worshiping the constellation basically sorcery. So they created all they had all these different ideas of what they did and they created all these different things and that was worshiping the planet and because the planet is happy with that worship therefore it's going to then benefit them or harm their enemies. And this was common. This was the way everybody looked at the world. In fact, as you mentioned, the Talmet talks about this was the standard. People believed that these were the false gods of the world >> before monotheism became >> Yes. big thing. >> Yes. And that's why the Torah is very clear and says, "Do not worship, do not bow down to the sun and to the moon." And the Torah stressed it over and over again because this was the common way that people practiced astrology. So that's a huge part of why there's this negative connection to astrology. So the not kosher version it's called astral magic worshiping planets combined with sorcery clearly forbidden >> right >> that's step one >> then there's another step >> called >> wait before you move this to the next step okay >> so clearly prohibited step one clearly prohibited obvious worshiping meaning serving these constellations in order to get something from them okay now I'm going to ask a question which is there's There's two ways I could ask. The one is where would they get a crazy idea that planets or constellations have any power at all? Or I could ask it the other way which is why is it not such a crazy idea? How did they make the mistake in the first place? Now I happen to know cuz I learned Rambam and you mentioned in the beginning of Elto, but it's actually it's an excellent question, right? And so the Rambam goes into great detail about this >> and the idea was so initially because astrology is uh an energy that Hashem uses to serve the world. Hashem used directs the world. Ram Khal says that Hashem directs the world through astrology. So, but back in ancient days first they started they thought oh so these planets are messengers from God. So hey maybe we can bribe the messengers to do us favors right? So they started with the correct idea that God is running the planets. But then they kind of wanted hey let me see if I can slip him a 100 maybe he'll do what I want. And it started that way and then once they were doing that after a few generations they became the planets. They started believing that the planets itself were the false gods itself and that's how they went wrong with this. >> So there's it is not incorrect to believe that massive energy is flowing through the planets or like you call them their messengers or maybe you could even call it a conduit or my understanding is the word mazle itself. It's related to the word noisel which means to flow or to drip. So they they're conduits, but the error which makes it idolatrous is to attribute some type of autonomy to them where like you say you'll bribe the messenger and you'll get a better message. >> Yes. >> Okay. Yes. But so that step one that's clearly prohibited. Fine. All right. >> Then we have step two. There's a form of astrology called astromancy. And this is a fatalistic view of astrology. >> Okay. So first you had astromagic. >> Astromagic. Yes. >> Serving the planets to get a result. >> Yes. Then you have astromancy. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Yes. >> Step two. >> And so this is the Gammorra and Shabas talks about this that if somebody was born under Mars, so the people believe that if you were born under the energy of Mars, you had no choice but to be a murdering bandit. >> That's astromancy. >> I was remembering incorrectly that that particular passage in Tal actually the sign of Mars is referring to a a day of the week. >> So yes. So so yes. So there's so in that in the Gmorrah Shabas it first assigns it like one day each week. Well we do have if you look at sun day is the day of sun moon Monday is moon day. It is assigned every planet from the seven uh primary planets are assigned to each day. And then there's also assigned to each hour in the Gmorra shops. It breaks it down. >> We should talk about the seven primary planets because you do have a nice thing about uh Uranus and and Neptune and Pluto over there. Yeah. because it it messed up the equation. [laughter] >> Yes. >> But well, maybe we'll get back to But just break down the seven, >> right? So So until 1781, so throughout history, the whole world only knew about seven planets. The sun, the moon, >> and we're calling the sun a planet. >> Yes. It's not officially planet. In astrology, we we call it like Pluto is officially not considered a planet anymore. We still call it a planet, >> right? If you're not so bothered by Pluto not being a planet, then don't be so bothered when we call the sun. >> The sun and moon are planets, right? So we have sun sun, moon, mercury, venus. >> Wait, let's go slow. Sun like Sunday, moon, moon day, >> Monday. Okay. >> So Tuesday, that's then they start using it's tiwis day. They start getting like using Latin terms. Um so Tuesday I believe is Mars and Wednesday >> um >> is mitvah. Yeah, midweek [laughter] Thursday they started using these methodological like Thursday and and Friday's free like so I don't >> because those are like the Norse god but it doesn't matter right but the point is that every day >> I just want everyone to to know by the way like like >> there are pagan origins for all these etmologies and like we don't want to like talk too much about it because that's not important to us but to me at least and you can correct me because you're the expert here >> these phenomena are real phenomena. And the fact that every culture has their names to label these phenomena to me is not surprising. Like every language has a word for the sun, right? So um these are the words that maybe the maybe the words come from pagan traditions and it become so ubiquitous that we say these words has it like Sunday, Monday, Tuesday we say these words without without hesitation. um you know or if you speak uh you know the Latin roots are the Roman you know the spoke the Romans spoke Latin that's more obvious if you speak a Latin language you know like uh lunes martes right then it's more okay and then in English it's a Germanic language and comes from the the Norse gods but the point is like this >> it doesn't matter what cultures called these things these are things >> yes >> okay and they exist and what you're giving us an opportunity to do is to refer refer to them in the Jewish way. >> Yes. >> Okay. Right. So, I just want to make >> cut all the myths and all those their own cultures what they attached to an existing thing created by Hashem and they attached their words and their and we're cutting that out. That's not >> going back to the original basically. Yes. Yes. Yes. >> So, getting back to astromancy, right? So, the >> the guys born under the sign of Mars got a blood lust, >> right? So, people believe this was the common culture believe they had no choice but to be a murdering bandit. Okay. So, the Gammorra does something that's very counterculture. It says, "No, that's not true. You can channel your energies. You're not forced into any form of astrology. Astrology is here that you can channel energy. Yes, you may have an assertive or an aggressive type of energy to your personality, but you can channel it and become a butcher. You can become a moell, a circumciser. You can become a a bloodletter. You can channel it in positive ways. You don't have to kill people." >> Right? Okay. So then the the prohibited aspect of the astromancy is the fatalism. >> Yes. Yeah. That's what it means in maz. It means there's no fatalistic astrology to the Jewish people. People confuse that. They think that means that astrology doesn't apply to to Judaism. No. The Gomorrah, the whole Gmorra and Shabas 156 is addressing astromancy, fatalism. That does not apply to Jews. We're never stuck. We never you know the rashi says it directly through through chuva and staka you're able to overcome it >> right right okay so correct me again if if I'm wrong it is a true statement to say that the astrological conditions under which you were born do have an indication of your temperament your personality strengths and weaknesses but to say that that will seal your fate that you will have to behave a certain way or live a certain That's where it becomes theologically pro problematic. >> Absolutely. And but again, you have to remember this was the common way that everybody believed that it worked during those conventional wisdom. >> That was conventional wisdom for you. You were born under. >> So this is really wild that the [laughter] Torah that the Gomorrah was able to say, "No, this is not how it works." Even though everybody believed this. In fact, we had there was a nation called the Calaldanss, and they were non they were non-Jews, and they were famous for their astrological uh abilities, but >> that's modern day Iraq, >> right? You know, isn't is that where Abraham came from? >> Yes. Yes. The Calaldians. Yes. Yeah. And so, the thing is, >> I was just in Detroit the other day. They still have Calaldians in Detroit. Huge community. Oh, yeah. That's a Yeah, it's a >> Wow. Wow. I wonder. I wonder if they still do astrology cuz >> I actually I know a guy who was actually in this studio. He's a he's his parents are originally from Baghdad. He lives in Detroit. He's a Calaldian. I'll you know maybe after this I'll call him up ask if they have any astrology. >> Funny. >> But so the problem is the Calaldanss used astral magic and astromancy the fatalistic versions. In fact the Gomorrah says it says that on that same Gamar in Shabas 156 on the other side a Calaldian told Rabbaka the famous Rabbaka that his daughter is going to die on the day of her wedding. >> Okay. >> So that's the kind of fatalistic prediction. nothing you can do, >> right? That that's a right and theor says no, she ended up not dying. She gave charity. But the point is that's how they perceive it. >> But maybe you can elaborate on this. >> There actually was a threat and she was able to circumvent it or or or to transcend it because of a merit. And you mentioned the merit of of charity. Meaning to say, it's not so black and white. It's not like it was wasn't ludicrous that the Calaldian said that she was going to die in her wedding day. there was such a threat. So like how do you >> so that's so that's the thing with this astrology. The problem is when people become specific. So I'll give you a good example in the Torah. Okay. We had parroise astrologers they twice they they made astrological predictions. One is that they when they when the Jews wanted to go out into the midbar into the desert to to worship Hashem he said the astrologers said no we see that Rah the planet Rah is before you and there's blood in the desert. Therefore, you're going to be killed if you go out into the desert. Right now, >> and they meant it, >> right? Now, they were right about the blood in the desert, but they were wrong about death. It was the blood of Brisma. That's what they saw. So, you can see an overall general energy, but you can't predict a specific thing and there's going to be a specific outcome. That's what you cannot do because astrology is not doing there's >> You said there were two examples. >> Yes. Another example is when they they said that they saw that the the savior of the Jews is going to be born and he's going to be a male and therefore and he's going to have trouble with water, right? And so therefore they they said like let's go and drown all the male babies of the Jews. >> Water will he he the water will be the bane of his existence. >> So that's what we'll do. We'll throw him in the water in the Nile. >> Right. Right. And and in the meantime, what was the was the water of strife where he hit the rock to produce water and that's why he didn't know. So So There was some >> it was connected to water but not through you know drowning the babies right so so that's again they looked at it as specific thing so if any astrologer ever tells you a specific outcome run away yes not kosh not true nobody can predict a specific thing but understand during those days everybody lived with this idea and it was terrifying for them >> and here's another thing so you know the ram bam my monities is famous for being against astrology So people go, "What are you talking about? Rambam says it's all nonsense and it's not >> right." >> Here's the thing. The Rambam explains why. And he brings example. They wrote him a letter. It's a famous letter that he wrote from the the Jews from France wrote to the Rambam. And he responds about astrology. And in it they wrote that the astrologers are telling them that they're going to die when they're 45 and their children are going to die when they're still here and their fire their house is going to burn down and there's going to be all these accidents. They were being told astromancy, fatalistic predictions. >> So the Rambam went crazy and said, "This is nonsense. You don't have to fear it. Nothing they're saying is true because and he and I love that the Rambam every time brings an example of why it's not true." So, you know, so he says that if if Ruvane has no choice but to kill Shim and and Shim has no choice but then why does Hashem tell us what's the whole point of the Torah? He was like saying this invalidates the whole Torah. Why? Because you don't have a choice. He says don't kill and I have no choice but to kill. So that's why he bombs and he says it's nonsense. It's a he's talking about fatalistic astromancy and you can see it in every example that he brings. He brings four or five different stories of Ruven and Shiman and each one is a fatalistic example and that's what he was against. >> Okay. Okay. So now we have clear. Okay. So first off we have the prohibition against worshiping the call them stars, constellations, planets, whatever you want to these conduits that are delivering energy. We have prohibition of even reading them as signs that we believe are inescapable fate. All right. Anything else like the parameters, the the the warnings that we should know before we get into the the purely kosher glot kosher? That's it. Those are the two. You can't worship planets. You can't do sorcery. And you can't do fatalistic or deterministic astrology. >> Okay. So then what can we do? >> Okay. So what's amazing about astrology is there's incredible amounts of information that's contained in the birth chart. So how does this work? So So astrology is designed to help us grow. So first thing to know straight out in the Torah it says in the 14th Pik in the 14th verse in biraius that Hashem says he created the the luminaries the sun and the moon to separate between day and night and his next word is they should be for signs and Rashi is very clear that it's talking about astrology. >> Okay. >> So right off the bat Rabb also goes into detail that's talking about astrology. So right off the bat we have right away in the Torah that Hashem is the one who created astrology the the the luminaries they should be for signs for people they now the question becomes signs for what what is the what is the purpose of it what is what's the goal we so we know Hashem created but what's the goal >> so borious rabba brings down that every blade of grass has an astrological energy urging it to grow >> right which it refers to as a mazle >> yes what is this masle And there must be billions of them cuz they're that many blades of grass. >> Right? So that each and that brings down the concept that the purpose of astrology is to help us grow. That's what these astrological energies Yes. >> Oh yes. Tells the blade of grass to grow. >> Yes. For every living thing creature even all the way down to a blade of grass. But certainly for you >> all the way down to a blade of how much more so more complex beings. Yes. Okay. So that is its purpose to help us grow to reach our potential to fulfill our purpose. That's what it's here to do. >> And that's to me one of the most amazing things about astrology. This is Hashem directing energy into our lives to help us grow, to help us achieve our purpose. >> Okay? >> Okay. So that's and then so understand what let's break down what astrology is, right? So astrology is the moment that you're born, Hashem takes all the energy of the solar system and implants it within the baby. It's it's a snapshot of that exact moment and all the energies of all the planets of the whole cosmos and the whole solar system into a person >> and you're here the baby now the baby doesn't know any of this, right? And he has a whole lifetime. >> There's a lot of things affecting a baby when they're born that they have no idea about. >> Yes. I'm saying forget about astrology. They're inheriting genetics, >> but this is setting out their entire lives. This is like a a seed, an apple seed that's being planted that's here to grow into a massive apple tree and produce bushels full of apples. Okay? >> That's what an astrological chart has all the energies, the unique abilities, the gifts, the struggles of everything. Again, let's make sure we're very clear to say this, but it cannot determine the exact way that that's going to express itself. I mean, based on what you told me, >> yes, it's going to you're going to have certain talents and gifts and certain and we're going to get into that exactly how that works. >> Potentials, can we call it? >> Yes, there's incredible potential, but you're here to do a purpose, right? So, it's not a specific thing, right? So, it's a general gifts that each person has and skill sets. Now it also comes >> so the specific way that it'll be channeled that's not determined. >> Correct. And certainly the moral character of it choosing right from wrong as you were talking about before. Yes. That's that's our work. That's that's the free will. There's a huge part of free will in involved. Now it's not complete free will. I would call it like partial free will. Right. There's a certain we don't have a choice who we're born to, who our parents are, right? There's a certain amount that we don't have a choice. Then what we do with it that's our free will. That's our free choice. Right? So, it's the same thing with the birth chart. There's going to be particular areas of gifts and skill sets, and that's what we're here to hone and develop and bring out in whatever way we choose and we see fit best for that. Okay. Okay. So, the birth chart is sort of like an outline of your potentials, which implies your gifts, but can you also detect deficiencies? >> Yes. And here's the thing. >> There's a story in your book, by the way. Yes. >> You you you have a lot of personal firsthand stories where you're you you do you do these charts for people. Yes. Yes. Okay. And by the way, if someone wanted to get a chart done >> Yes. They can go to my website kosherastro.com. >> kosherastro.com. Some old information there. >> So, there was a story there about a couple that was dating. I just recall the the general idea that you detected some area that you knew based on their charts that was going to be a problem area. Not that they shouldn't get married, but that's going to be the challenge, >> right? So, so yes. So, so um this woman who was she was in her 40s and she was single and she she told me that she had dated somebody previously six months ago and it didn't end well. And now he contacted her. He wanted to he wanted to try again. And she was like, "No, I'm not going through that." So, I said, you know, let me look at the charts and see what's happening. And so in additionally to your chart, you can also compare two people's charts and see where the areas of connection, where the area of difficulty. I call it the couple's chart. >> What if people are already married? I mean, you do that. >> Yes. And it can be very helpful to understand why spouses feel differently, what areas to be sensitive of, what's there's a lot there's so much information that can be so incredibly helpful. >> You've seen it be helpful. >> Yes, we'll talk about it in terms of transit for shaman bias. Literally, some can literally save marriages. Yes. Yes. We'll go. >> By the way, I don't want to get off topic, but I saw that one story you told was for a father and a son. >> Yes. >> My son here is producing the show, so maybe later. I know you did my chart. You'll have to pull up Yuda. Uh, >> yes. Let's see what the chart is. Um, >> find out if we're really compatible. I might have to replace you at all. I'm sorry. >> Yeah. Okay. [laughter] But yes, but but but getting back to we'll talk about she she wanted consider considering re >> right she she she didn't want she she got burnt last time she >> look at his chart >> so she had his information she had his birthday she knew they they dated for for a number of months they dated seriously for from a couple of months so she had his information and I looked at the chart and I and I showed her one particular area where there's a conflict in the chart and this is something I don't remember the specifics but this is something clearly Yeah, there's something that a certain thing about him like didn't fit well with her. Now, so I told her this is never going to change. However, however, if you can learn to accept it, you have many other connections that are really positive and really Yes. Yes. And I went through some of the other very positive ones. So, I'm saying look, don't try to So, I said [laughter] is I focus on your strengths. >> Yeah. Right. So you know give them if you want give them a chance again [clears throat] understanding and see if you can learn to live with this area that's going to be different for you that's not going to be satisfying for you but with all these other positivities. So actually so she did a couple of months later she started dating again a couple of months later she got engaged they got married and she just now sent the invitation to the bar mitzvah of her son. Yes mazoto literally 13 years ago when you say mazotov has a whole new meaning astrology. Yes. So in this case it's a real masleto that astrology helped to understand the differences right. So so and that's also because it also depersonalizes when you understand that somebody has a very different energy and he was born this way to be an Aries and he's and you're used to >> it's a little less offensive. >> Yes. It's nothing. It's not right. It's not meant to like being mad at a guy cuz he's he has brown eyes. >> Right. Yes. Yes. So now you have to learn to see can you live with it. They to see if you can you know and once you do so this is a beautiful story that ended beautifully in this way. >> Wow. Okay. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> So that you have a snapshot a person is born under certain astrological conditions and I I'm assuming you know that the configuration of these constellations indicates would you say like the way the energy was entering the world at that moment or which energies how would you >> Yeah. Yeah. So this we're going to go through it. We're going to go through a chart what that looks like. Literally think of it as a snapshot, a map of the heavens, where was the sun, where was Venus, where was Mercury, where was Uranus? How were they positioned in regards to each other? What zodiac sign were they all in? There's a lot more information. That's another big misconception. People think that we're only our sun sign. We're only a Gemini. That's the totality of astrology. >> That's the typical thing, right? I'm a Gemini, >> right? And that's the tip of the iceberg. There's so much more information because it's not just your sun. There's a moon. Your emotions can be in a complete different sign and you're a great example of it. We're going to we're going to get Yes, we're going to go into it. But just one more point that I wanted to bring out. You talk about like >> the struggles. So, here's the thing. >> Yeah. >> The struggles are part of your gift. They're a struggle because in childhood, it's very hard if you have incredible powerful energy. For a child or teenager, it's very hard to absorb that energy and to understand how to properly utilize it. So that's where sometimes we can have some big struggles in our lives and difficulties, but they're not meant for struggles. They're meant to work through and then it grows into an incredible gift and superpower that you're able to then help heal the world in some way. >> You're saying that sometimes a person has certain potentials. They don't even know they have those potentials. And not only is it if you don't know you have a potential, you can't use it. But what you're saying is actually it's disruptive. It's like excess energetic clutter that is is causing them causing them confusion, pain. >> Yes. Yes. I see people who have incredibly struggle lives. I see they have Saturn and Pluto and all these difficult planets. >> But each one is an incredible superpower and you have to learn how to hone them properly. So these are actually the the the weakness and struggle is the key to your gifts and to your superpowers. So the more you understand [clears throat] these components of your personality, the more you can choose, again, it's all free will to utilize them in ways that are productive. >> Yes. >> That's the premise. >> Yes. >> Okay. Okay. Very good. And I mean, who wouldn't want to do that, >> right? That's what I I like the minute cuz first of all, this whole idea is very fantastical. It's a very wow, there's all this information about me and my life. So it's hard for people to believe that it's true. When I discovered it was true, that's why I I it drove me crazy. Like I had to write it. I had to tell the world. How could who wouldn't want to know all their gifts and struggles or the different timing in their life when they're here to really take the next leap and growth. I'm going to go through all that. All this information is available. Hashem provided. He I call it a love letter in the sky. That's what astrology is to me from Hashem. >> Mhm. >> Okay. So I mean you you have my chart, my actual real chart. >> Yes. >> Can first of all obviously it's always fascinating to hear about oneself. So I'm eager to hear what you found. But you'll go through my chart in a way where you'll teach us what a chart is and the parts of it and what they're doing and Okay. >> Yes. So first Yes. I'm going to >> so make it educational. Yes. >> So the first part we're going to go through a chart because it looks Chinese, right? And we're going to go through it so everybody should be able to understand and read. So everybody's capable of reading their own chart. >> So that would be step one. >> So we're going to do that and then we're going to break down exactly how the different parts work and then we're going to get into your specific charts, the different [laughter] building. Okay. >> So if we can put the birth chart up on the screen. Okay. Okay. So like I said, so for most people, they look at this and it just looks Chinese. What is a bunch of symbols? I have no idea what any of this means. It's very confusing. So in a couple of minutes, everything's going to make sense. Okay. So let's start with if you look in this in this chart in the inner circle there are numbers 1 through 12. >> Oh I can guess what the 1 through 12 is. >> Okay the 12 months 12 zodiac signs. >> Okay. >> Is that right? >> Almost almost [laughter] these are the houses in astrology. >> I've heard that term. >> Yes. Yes. So here's the thing. Here's the thing. Astrology has incredible amounts of information and can be very overwhelming. So I'm going to try overwhelmed already. >> Yes. So, I'm going to try to to not talk about every single thing, but rather focus on the most important. >> Okay. 12 houses. >> Yes. The only reason I bring up the houses is because that's the way how we're going to point to where to look at the chart. So, if you look at number 10, if I say the 10th house, >> what happens when the moon is in the seventh house? [laughter] Okay. At any rate, the the 12 houses. >> Yes. So, we're going to look at house number 10. Right. So, if you look up in the circle, look at number 10. You'll see like a box with number 10 in it. >> Yes. And there's four planets in there, right? There four symbols in there. >> Those four symbols are four planets. Okay. >> Yes. >> And there there's seven total planets we mentioned before. >> No. No. So the seven primary planets that were discovered up until 1781. 1781, we discovered Uranus. In 1844, we discovered Neptune. In 1930, we discovered Pluto. And then in 1977, we discovered Chiron, which most people never heard of. It's a planettoid. It's not considered a planet, but it's still part of astrology. So we use the seven plus these four. >> Okay. >> So there's 11 planets that we're going to be focusing on. >> Okay. >> Right. So >> So I'm looking in the in the 10th house right now. Four planets. >> Yes. The four planets. So if you look at the third planet, the one that's a round circle and a dot. >> Yeah. >> Right. Y. >> So now the question is you don't have to memorize. How you going to know what each thing means? >> Can you zoom in? >> Oh, perfect. Zoom into that round circle with a dot in the middle of it. Okay. Right there. What is that? So that is the sun. But >> the sun. >> Yes. But but in order to know what it is, we're going to have to zoom back out because I want to show how to know what that is. You don't have to memorize what each of the planets. You have to be able to see the whole chart. Now I need to side the right side of the chart. Right? If you look, there are four boxes on the right side. The third box from the top, you see it says moon, sun, mercury. >> Third box. One, two, three. Yeah. Moon, sun, mercury. >> So over there, it shows you every symbol for every planet and the name of the planet. right next to it. >> Right. That's >> so So, right. So, now all of a sudden when you're looking at the circle, you don't like, "Oh, what are all these things?" I just look at this box and it tells you exactly what planets. So, that round circle with the sun with the dot, you see right there, it's the sun. >> Okay. >> Right. >> Okay. >> So, that's number one, how you know what the planets are. >> Got it. >> Now, let's go back to the 10th house. >> Okay. >> And let's talk about the sun. There's >> zoom in on 10th house. >> Now, you can zoom in on 10th house. There's a number right underneath the sun >> that says 20. We're going to talk about has 20°. >> Yes, I'm going to talk about that in a second. >> Right underneath that there's a symbol. >> It looks like a Roman numeral two. >> Yes. Yes. >> But it's not. >> It's No, it's not. >> Hold on. I'm going to use the chart. And I was going to guess that it's Gemini cuz two the Gemini. >> Right. So, zoom out. Zoom out in the chart. Zoom back out >> or go to the right side. >> Go to the right side. And the second box from the top shows you it's a symbol of the zodiac signs. And you have there all the symbols. So, if you look >> Yeah. Zoom in on that. Yeah. zoom in on. >> So if you look there, you see that that that that Roman numeral is the symbol for Gemini, >> right? The two Gemini is the twins. >> Yes. Yes. It's called Toy. >> Yes. Yes, it is twins. And that's why that's the symbol of two. So now in the when you go back to the main chart, you see all the planets. You now can look at the third box and know what that is. all the and each planet underneath it will have a zodiac sign a symbol and again you can look at the second box to see exactly what the zodiac symbol is. >> So that's I'm looking in the 10th house and I see the sun 20° Gemini and 23 minutes. >> Yeah. So let's talk about that. That's good. Keep it there. Right. >> So every zodiac sign has 30°. It starts from 0 0 and it goes up to 30 or technically 2959. >> Okay. And then it goes it changes to zero of the next sign. >> So when you were born this gives us a precise location of where your sun it's not just it's in Gemini it's at 20 degrees of Gemini. It gives us a very specific and if you look at the the number underneath it you see 23. >> Is this geographically specific that oh yeah you you needed to know my birth place. >> Yes yes yes it is. It is. Yeah. But in my place of birth at not only on that day but at that time >> exact time when you were born yes the sun was exactly 20° and then that little thing that 23 at the bottom is it's minutes and seconds. So it's 20° and 23 seconds. When that 23 turns to 59 it would then turn to 21°. So it's just not so important but it gives us a very precise location and we'll see soon why it's necessary to see precisely. Okay. So now when you look at this chart, this inner circle, you know exactly what each planet is by looking at the box, by seeing what the symbol is. You know what each one, what zodiac sign it's in. And you also can see exactly what degrees it is. >> Okay, >> so that's part one of understanding this chart. Then there's part two. And after part two, you fully can read a chart. We're going to get into the meaning, what everything means. Right now, we're just focusing to see how it works. >> Okay. So if we look at the top the top box on the right side where it says conjunction opposition right >> so these are what's called >> top right corner >> top right corner these are what's called aspects and aspects are how planets connect to each other and therefore influence each other >> okay >> so let's start with the first one >> they're like relationships between planets >> yes and therefore strongly influencing each other yes >> okay >> so we're not just our sun everything is flavored by something and we're going to see which planets are flavoring that and the connection the way they connect it is called aspects. So the first one is called a conjunction. A conjunction means that the two planets are next to each other and therefore blending their energy. So let's find let's see if we can find a nice conjunction in your chart >> that little uh >> you don't lollipop symbol. >> Yes, the lollipop symbol. Okay. So let's look at the 10th house. Okay. >> And here's we'll look at the you want you can zoom in there. Right. So, if you see the first planet, the one that purple that has like antennas on it, that's Mercury. That's communication and thinking, >> and that's at 12° of Cancer. >> And then if you look right on top of it is Saturn, the brown planet, that's Saturn. >> Yeah. >> And that's at 5° of Cancer. >> Yeah. >> So Saturn, so here's the thing. There's something called an orb, which is as long as it's within 10° of each other, it's still considered an aspect. So from 5 to 12 is 7° difference and that's a conjunction which means they're next to each other which means the energy of Saturn >> they're like overlapping. >> Yes. So the energy of Saturn is influ is influencing >> directions. >> Yes. But there's one more than another. We'll see in a second why. And right now I just want to show you the connection. We'll go into great detail what this means for you in your life. Okay. But that's how we know. So if I look at this Mercury I see it has the energy of Saturn blending with it and influencing it strongly. So, your communication and thinking is going to have the energy of Saturn and we're going to talk about >> whatever that means. >> Yes, we'll find out soon what that means, but I just want to show you how they're connecting. Okay, >> so that's a conjunction. >> Okay, >> let's see. Then there's um an opposition, which you don't seem to have any. >> I don't have any opposition. >> We'll skip that for a second. Let's talk about the square. That's going to be really important. >> Square. >> The square is a 90° angle. It's like the corner of a box. Okay. >> And that's how the energy of how planets are connecting. >> And let's see. Oh, this is my favorite square in your chart. I'm love this one. Which one? >> So, if you look out up in the 10th house, you have the sun at 20°, right? If you drew a line down from the sun in the 10th house down to like the middle of the circle and then make a right to the 7th house, >> make like a 90° >> 90° angle, right? It's connecting with Jupiter. You see that gray four? >> Yeah, >> that's Jupiter, which is at 1648 almost 17°. So, it's >> so my sun in the 10th house and my Jupiter in the seventh are connecting are at a 90°. >> Yes. Which means the energy of Jupiter is strongly influencing your sun >> and that's a huge part of your personality. >> Okay. Yes. >> When they hit each other at that 90° angle I mean what does that represent? >> So that's how they influence each other. That's the system of astrology. This is the Iban Ezra wrote about this thousand years ago. He writes about these aspects. Patalamy wrote about it 2,000 years ago. This is the formula >> to make it simple. >> Yes. >> All right. Two signs are next to they're called signs. What are the two >> two planets? planets are next to each other and that's a conjunction. Okay. But then they're at a 90° angle by in the sky physically they're at a 90. >> Yes. If they're 90° angle and therefore they're influencing each other close to each other. That's one that's a conjunction. That's one kind of influence. If they're at a 90° angle from each other that's another influence. >> Yes. And also if they're opposite each other >> in simple layman's terms. >> Yes. >> What's the difference? >> In simple layman's terms there's really not much of a difference there. If you get into very specifics, there can be some differences, but it's not important. For the most of these, it means that one energy, one planet is strongly influencing the other. That's the big 90° angles or 180° angles. Also, what's the tr >> Oh, okay. So, those three, the conjunction, opposition, and square, those are called hard or strong aspects. Why? Cuz it's like they're shouting at each other. They're very noticeable. So, you're going to notice >> Yeah. So, you're going to notice the energy of those planets in your personality. And not just that, no, no, >> people who know you are going to be able to see the energy of the planet that's connecting because it's so strongly affecting your personality. >> So, people will be able to see Jupiter in your everybody know. >> Yes. Yes. And Jupiter is all about >> other aspects of me that people won't know about unless they know. >> And there's something called a a subtle or soft aspect. That's the trrine and the sex tile. Those are the other two. There's one more, the King Kunks. That's a minor. Ignore it. I'm not looking. There's one in blue. TR is 120° angle and sexile is a 60° angle. So, this is still softer. It's still affecting you. Think of it like they're whispering to each other where the other ones are shouting at each other. This is whispering. So, you'll feel it, but maybe other people will see it in within you. >> Something that's opposition that's coming right out strong energy and there's more oblique coming out. It's a flowing energy. Trines have tend to be flowing energies. >> That makes sense. Okay. Okay. Okay. So imagining all of these planets representing pathways of energy and some pathways are hitting each other and some pathways are doing a t-bone intersection and some pathways are kind of like flowing next to each other. >> Yes. Yes. And then you can have a bunch of planets t-boning and a bunch of plan and there's are all kinds of unique configurations. That's what makes us so unique. That's why there's 8 billion people on the planet and everybody's unique. It's the same thing. It's the same way everybody has two eyes and nose and a mouth. But [laughter] we're all individual. Everybody looks different, right? Cuz everybody So we all have the same planets, but we all have unique configurations that makes our personality so unique. >> So this the first thing is that's very clear to me is to when we go around saying, "Oh, oh, I'm a Gemini." That's really oversimplified. >> Yes. Yes. Completely oversimplified. It's true. It's part of your son and we'll talk about that, but there's way way way more information. Like I said, tip of the iceberg. >> Okay. >> Okay. So that's the basics and then just um if you look at the there's a little cheat sheet. How you going to know what's connecting with what? What's opposite? What's squaring? What's conjuncting? So if you look at the lower left corner, there's a triangle grid. >> Okay. >> And in this triangle grid, it tells you everything. So if you look at the top, you'll see the top of the triangle grid, you see there's a moon. >> Yeah. >> If you go one step down to your right is the sun. >> Yeah, I see it. >> Right. Now, if you count directly under the sun, count one, two, three, four boxes. >> Yeah. >> What do you see? >> I see a square. You see the square with which planet? With Jupiter, right? Before, right? >> Oh, so this is the representation of that. >> Yes. Yeah. So, what's in the what's in the chart? You can look here and it'll tell you exactly what's squaring what, what's conjunct. And again, if you if you forget [laughter] the symbols, just look at the top right corner. It tells you the symbol for conjunction, opposition, trying, and square. >> Okay? >> So, you can see everything. So, everything is here listed. You can see your entire chart, how many squares you have, how many oppositions you have. And just one final piece of information, if you look under that square between Sun and Jupiter, you see it says 3S35, >> right? In that triangle grid. >> Uh, hold on, I'm lost. >> Where are we looking? >> In the triangle grid, lower left corner. Yes. >> We we had the the moon and after is a step down is the sun. >> Yes. >> Right. Three boxes down, we see the square with Jupiter. In that box, there's numbers underneath. >> Oh, yes. >> It says 3S35. >> Yes. >> So, the the letter it'll always be >> Can you zoom in on that? is all 3S35. >> Yeah. A little bit more. >> Okay. So don't >> Yeah. So you can just right. So by Jupiter you see between sun and Jupiter is a you see a red square underneath is a number 3 S35. So the S the letter will always say S or A which means separating or approaching. Not important. Ignore it. >> Okay. >> Right. Um, however, the number it's telling you it's three deg orb is three degrees and 35 seconds. Right? So, if you go back to the chart, if you look, the sun is at 20° and 23 seconds and Jupiter is at 16° and 48 seconds. That's a difference of 3° and 35 seconds. Between 20 to 16, it's just telling you how close or how far apart it is. That's >> That's close. >> Yeah. Yeah. That's very close. Anything So, anything under 10° is strong. Anything under five degrees is strong. The closer it is, the stronger it is also. Okay. >> Again, it just gives you a precise location. So, the whole chart we can see exactly the planets, the zodiac sign, the degrees, what's squaring what, what's opposing what. Everything's listed. So, this chart is no longer Chinese. >> Okay. >> Now, we don't know what it all means. That's what we're going to get into. But at least we know how to read the chart. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, that's step one. Now let's go to the chart of the warrior to understand what's happening with planet. >> Okay, >> if you can put up the warrior on the, >> you know, this little Dungeons and Dragons guy here. [laughter] Okay, >> so yes, so let's talk about that. So we're going to be focusing on the five personal planets. That's the sun, the moon, Mercury, Venus, and Mars. What does that mean, the five personal planets? Because these five planets represent basic human functioning >> as opposed to >> as opposed to some of the outer planets as just flavoring our basis. So think of it like your hands and legs and eyes, different parts of you. These five planets I'm going to get into how what exactly they represent. >> And so this is the core of who you are. This is who you are. And the other planets are just going to be influencing and adding a unique flavor to these five. >> They're literally physically more distant. I'm saying where they are. >> Yeah, those are outer planets and their influence on your personality is much more quote quote unquote distant, >> right? It's it's it it has a huge effect, but it's not personal. It's not part of you. It's an addition. It's like clothing. Think of it there like clothing that you're wearing. It's not your hand. It's a clo. Now, the clothing makes the man. I don't know. But like, you know, it's going to have a huge influence in how you appear, but it's not part. So, let's get let's get into it. Let's start at the bottom of the page. By the way, this illustration is from my book. It's page 173 in my book which has over 75 pages of full color illustrations. >> So if you look at the bottom you see it's the sun. We're talking about the sun and the sun represents your core self, your essence, your identity. Who are you? What are you here to do? How do you view yourselves? What is your purpose in this world? So in this particular case, >> this person sees himself as a knight or a warrior. That's his identity. So the sun represents not a part of you. It's the overall person. Who are you here to be? Who are you here to grow into? Now, a baby doesn't have an identity. Correct. Right. So, this is something we consciously, right? We grow into over our lifetime. We grow into who we are. So, that's the big key is the sun. So, that's why the sun is very important. >> Wait. So, this warrior guy, this knight, >> yes, >> that's because of the sun. >> So, his identity is as a knight and a warrior. That's his identity. The sun is represents your identity. Give me an example of another one. >> Okay. So, uh I'm a doctor. >> Okay. >> Like if that's like my profession, that's my life, that's what I'm known as, right? So that's my identity. >> No, but another like one from from astrology. >> Yeah. Yeah. Like what do you mean? So this >> doctor is one of the >> you can whatever you like >> what are these called these these prototypes or these profiles? >> These planets. So each planet represents a different side of you. This sun represents your identity. Every person has a different identity. >> Okay. Okay. So, let's let's let's I got to slow it down. >> The sun represents identity. And identity you're defining as sort of this character, >> your purpose in this world, like your your overall purpose in this world, what you're here to do, what you feel called to, you know, this is what I feel good doing. This is how I identify myself. >> And as you mentioned earlier, that could be plugged into a lot of different forms of expression. >> Yes. Yes. >> But this is a general personality. >> Yes. So, that's the sun. It represents the entire person. >> Okay. >> The other four, the moon, mercury, Venus, Mars, they each one represent a different part of you, >> an aspect of the personality. The sun is like the overall >> overall entire person. Yes. So for example, let's start with Mars in red. >> Okay. So Mars represents >> your instinct, your action, your energy, your drive. >> Right? So the flight or flight or fight response. So in this case it represents the sword, the hands and the legs. Because being a great swordsman has nothing to do with the intellect. It's all about your instinct, your hand to eye coordination, your leg movement. So that is that side of you. So Mars represents your instinct and action. So being a great swordsman is would be connected to your Mars. >> Okay? >> Right? And Mars is like assertive energy we just spoke about in the Gomorrah, right? So that's that would be your Mars, your your sword. So again, so you see how Mars is doing it's using its aspect to serve the purpose of the sun, of the identity of being a great swordsman. That's what its ability is and that's what it's contributing to the whole. >> You think Elon Musk feels driven to go to Mars because >> he [laughter] probably has strong Mars. >> The bus have this Mars. >> Very possible. >> We got to get his charts. >> Yes. Yes. It's fascinating to look at some of the charts. Okay. So, that's Mars. >> But, but if I had this obsession that I'm going to um go to Mars, that would be very Marsike, like a drive, an ambition. >> So, Yes. Yes. Yes, WE'RE GOING TO BUILD MARS, >> RIGHT? DOESN'T MATTER which planet you go, it happens to be Mars, right? Doesn't matter. But if you have that Mars gives you that really Yes. Okay. And then on the other side, let's look in yellow. >> And obviously, like you were saying before, like the like the Talmud talks about someone with blood lust being been born under Mars. If that's not channeled properly, then you could just become a force for, you know, God forbid, just knocking everyone over in your path. >> Absolutely. Absolutely. But that's that's a that's a free will thing. >> Yes. So people who have strong Mars have to learn how how to channel. >> Yes. Yes. So >> you're not going to not have that character, >> right? But here's the thing. Here's the thing. So when you see somebody who has a temper, don't judge them. They might have a very strong Mars. If you had that Mars, you also would have had a struggle with your temper. So have compassion. He needs to work on himself, but have compassion on him, right? Don't judge. Once I learned astrology, you learn very quickly not to judge people. You don't understand what kind of energies they have that they have to those energies who says you would handle it exactly as well. You would have to struggle with it also. Never judge people. >> Okay. That's great. >> Yes. Okay. >> Okay. So, let's go to the other side. We we have the moon. >> The moon. >> The moon represents your emotions, your feelings, your needs. It's your likes and dislikes. So, the two most important is the luminaries. The sun is the overall identity and the moon is your emotions. So a baby, a two-month old baby, they haven't really stepped into the identity. They're primarily their moon. Feed me, hold me. So we grow up primarily our moon until we reach a stage that we start the the sun starts taking over that our identity, our higher self starts growing. So this is a growth process. So actually most people are more connected with their moon sign than their sun sign. >> That's a sign of immaturity. >> No, no, it's it's a pro it's a growth process. It's all growth. We're all here to grow. is it's all it's a it's a that's Hashem gives us the challenge challenges the growth process but yes we're here to step into our son also yes that's a really important part of the process but primarily >> that's [clears throat] why it's helpful to know what it is >> yes yes and that's why some people who don't identify with their son because they haven't yet stepped there >> yes yes >> wow yes >> okay so and there are people who whose moons and suns are farther away from each other >> there are people who have them in conflict with each other all kinds of stuff [clears throat] people who I would like to think who have a short journey to make in this lifetime where it's a relatively it's an easy layup to get from their moon to their son. >> So yes, so the thing is but the people who have it easier maybe they're not here to do the incredible great things that the people who are struggling because all the people you know in order to become an Olympic athlete you have to train 10 hours a day. It requires when I see somebody with a really complex chart that requires a lot of work. That tells me that Hashem set him up that him or her to do some great something great in this world, they have to work through their stuff because if you look at the greatest people in the world, they're all people who went through incredible struggles and overcame it. So that's so it's a beautiful it's a gift. Even though we we take at the time we're struggling, it's painful. Why am I going through? It's here to help you grow into the >> Nobody should be jealous of anyone else's charm. >> Yes. Yes. Hashem picked you, gave you all the gifts and struggles. is all part of what you need in this. >> Hashem loves you. Yes. Hashem wants you to be the perfect person who you're meant to be. >> Okay. So, even if you find out that your moon and son are in conflict with each other, no, that that's going to end up being an incredible gift. Yes. Once you work through it, you have work to do. Yes. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, the moon in this case, in this particular case, the question is, [snorts] is he a brave warrior? Is he a courageous warrior? because if he's full of fear, I don't care how great of a swordsman he is, he's not going to make a very good um knight or warrior. So the moon has to do its job by being brave in scary situations. Right? So again, this is how the moon is contributing to the overall identity of the sun. >> Okay? >> Then we have the top of the chart which is the brain, the left brain and right brain which is Mercury and Venus. >> Okay. >> So Mercury represents the intellect, the thinking. So in this case, let's say he's a great strategist. He knows how to set up the troops. He knows how to plan an ambush. So what is he doing? He's using his intellect to serve the purpose of the son of being a great warrior. And the same thing >> is thatma. >> Yes. >> Cabalistically. >> Yes. Yes. That would bema. Yes. Okay. And >> and then can I guess Venus is Vina? >> Yes. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. So and but additionally Mercury is not just thinking and and it's also communication. So it also represents >> Mercury is the smallest planet. >> Yes. It's the closest planet to the >> sun is is is considered quote unquote small. Right? Because it's like ethereal. It's elusive. It it comes as like the little flash of intuition. It doesn't have you can't grab onto it. You can't hold on to it. It slips away and it gets expanded through Vina. Whatever. I don't know if it says that anywhere or if I'm making it up, but okay. >> So, but so Mercury is also communication, right? >> By the way, is Mercury masculine and Venus is feminine? They speak about in those terms and Venus is masculine. >> Very much so. Yes. Now, this is for some reason astrologers somehow think Mercury is not it's not masculine. not feminine. I strongly disagree. I think it's very masculine. I think Mercury the moon is is feminine clearly. >> Right. And the Mercury is masculine and Venus is feminine. Okay. Yes. And we're meant to have all parts of ourselves both the masculine and fe feminine as part of each person. Not not connected specifically to male and female. >> Is this like right and left in Kabala also? Like if if Khma is on the right and Venus on the left that's Mercury and Venus. So then is Mars being on the left is that >> Gura. >> So So the thing is so I I've I've I've seen many different interpretations connecting different planets to to the the spheros. >> I'm not yet satisfied. I haven't done a deep model that like oh this one hits but then this one doesn't feel like it connects. So I I didn't yet do that's maybe my next book do a deep dive to find the true connections between them. Yes. Yeah. >> Okay. >> Um so okay so Mercury is also communication. So in this case, let's say he knows how to get out talk himself out of trouble or he knows how to negotiate treaties. Again, he's serving the person. >> Mercury is like creative thinking, but it's also >> communication. Yes. Okay. Then we have Venus, which is the right brain, which is the intuitive and creative side. >> So Venus is Vena. It's very complex. It's not a simple type of idea. It's it's like in full, if you think of Mercury is logical and linear, black and white. Venus is color. It's it's artsy. >> Yes. It takes in all the senses. So one of this is is artistic sensibilities but the Venus artist and but the primary thing >> Mercury is like math >> science >> logical >> and Venus is like poetry >> right can be poetry and art and like all different kinds of things right and but the primary thing of Venus is about your values and what you're passionate about what's important to you in life what are the things that you really want to focus what are your hobbies and that's what Venus is always going to address and in particular it's always going to address How do you value yourself? Your self-esteem. How do you value yourself? And everything is going to depend on that. >> Your relationships. Venus is very famously known about love and relationships because it really matters. How do you value yourself? If you're if you value yourself, you have a healthy self-esteem. You won't put up with inappropriate behavior or inappropriate relationships. You stand up for yourself. >> So Venus is a huge part. So the relationship part comes afterwards because the root of it is how do you believe in yourself? >> Wow. Okay, that itself is a life pro tip. >> Yes. Yes. So the thing with Venus, so in terms in this particular case, right, so Venus um in this case as a warrior, what is he willing to fight for? What is he willing to die for? So if he's a soldier in the IDF and he's willing to defend his brothers and sisters in Claus, right? So that makes him also helps make him a mighty warrior because he's fully invested because those are his values. So you see how each part Mars, moon, mercury, Venus, each one has a complete different skill set and each one can contribute to the overall purpose of the sun of being a mighty warrior. >> Okay? >> Right? So that's how each one plays its part. Now this is how astrology works for everyone. That's what these five planets are so important. They represent a different part of you. Now the problem is sometimes there can be a conflict between two sides. Let's say your moon and Mercury are in conflict and opposition. So your moon is your emotions and Mercury is your communication and thinking. So let's say you think, "Oh, wait. I have to go to work right now. That's the right thing for me to do." You think it was right? [laughter] I want to go to the park. I I feel I really need to see water and and the lake. Right now sometimes if you have an opposition, you might feel I have to sacrifice one in order to do the other. So you might ignore, oh, emotion's not so important. And you might stifle it and it becomes a shadow. Now you can choose the the healthy way to do is say okay I need to go to work now but Sunday I I'm going to go to the hard to find an outlet yes an outlet cuz I just want to pretend it's not there otherwise we create shadow and create all kinds of problems and that's what a lot of the conflicts or we sometimes can have a wounding connected to one of these planets and that might be a trauma or some kind of childhood wounding that we have to learn to overcome and that's the avoidant this is the lifetime work to to try to get all of these five planets really flowing on all cylinders. That's when we really can find our purpose and that gift. Everything starts working out together. When life is struggling and things aren't working well, that means we're not fully engaged. We haven't fully honed each part of this. And that's what can be so helpful with astrology to really see which are the parts that I'm not addressing that's in conflict that I have to learn to work with, that I have to learn to heal. It can get very specific in which part of that is. So it gives us incredible amounts of information and knowledge to help us grow. All of this is to help us grow. It's for schlamus for wholeness. That is the purpose of everything and that is the purpose of astrology. >> Okay. Okay. Makes sense. Okay. So now so that so right now we outlined the chart. We understand the chart and we understand how the pieces work. >> Yeah. >> Are you ready to go a little bit into your chart? Okay. So yes, let's let's talk about your birth chart. >> Okay. >> Okay. So let's let's let's talk about some of what I would call. So first thing to understand, we're going to talk about the zodiac signs in your birth chart, right? So you know that you're a Gemini, but that's only level one. >> So here's the thing. It's really important to understand with astrology. Astrology works with layers. Just like human beings, we're very complex, right? So when I describe, let's say your uh your zodiac sign, that's the first layer. There are many other layers that might mitigate and change and transform. It's not a full picture of who you are. Got it. So when you when a person sees their sun sign is certain thing, it's not a full picture of who you are. There's too many other factor. >> Sun sign means the what we normally call the zodiac sign. >> Yes. Yes. And that's the sun because the sun your son when you were born your son was in Gemini, right? In the 10th house we see it's at 20° of Gemini. >> So I was born in the middle of June and that's Gemini. that whole >> yes >> 30 days or whatever it is. >> So let's let's talk a little bit about Gemini, right? So the key words for Gemini is curious, communication, connection, information. Gemini is learning to develop the intellect and communicate knowledge. The awakening process has to do with seizing possibilities and being fascinated by life. First, we address our own curriculum because we're curious, we want to understand it, which opens the possibility of teaching others. So Gemini is all about information. It's incredible curiosity. So here's the thing. Your sun sign is in Gemini. My sun sign is in Gemini. So this is somebody who loves to read that information, understanding, and loves to share and loves to cheat. That's it's a Mercury type of energy. Mercury's communication and thinking. So Gemini is connected to Mercury. >> Okay. >> So that's part of our purpose in the >> love ideas and to talk about ideas and bond with people over ideas. >> This is our identity. This is the energy. The first layer. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Remember I'm just talking the first layer. So the first layer, >> the fact that we're both Geminis means that one thing we have in common, it's a it's a the very superficial layer, but we both love information, which is why we're having fun talking about this stuff. Okay. >> Yes. Yes. So that's a huge part. We love teaching. We love sharing information. I I learn a fascinating thing. I want to share it. I want to teach it. Right. That's Gemini, >> right? That's how I connect with people. Tell them data dumping. I love it. >> Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Gemini, right? We love ideas. Right. Right. Beautiful. So that's so that's okay. And then so that's the sun. However, what most people not looking at, let's look at our moon. So, your moon in the sixth house is in Pisces. So, by the way, Gemini is an air sign, right? So, air signs is more the intellectual. There's four cards. There's air, earth, fire, and water. >> Okay? >> And water is primarily focused on emotions. >> Okay? >> And so, your moon is in Pisces. >> Now, my moon is in Pisces. That means what day where the does that mean what phase the moon was in? No, no, it's not the face. Weird, right? It's weird. >> So, now how full the moon was wax and rain, >> right? So, think of it like there's a circle of all the zodiac signs and we're taking a snapshot. Okay. All the planets in the solar system, where is it in regards from Earth from Earth? If you look behind the moon, that's that's Cancer. Okay. So, I'm sorry, it's Pisces. So, let's talk about what's Pisces. A fish. >> Yes. Yes. Now, Pisces, the key words of Pisces is idealistic, intuitive, vulnerable, and oneness. Pisces is developing love and compassion for everyone and everything. All experiences can be held in gratitude and forgiveness can be mastered as an art form. Pisces can assist others in cultivating a more loving vision for themselves and the world. So Pisces is incredible intuitive, emotional, sensitive. It it's a oneness with the world. It wants to connect. Now here's the thing. There are three water signs. You know, Cancer, which it's interesting. So your sun is in Gemini and your moon is in Pisces. My sun is in Gemini and my moon is in cancer. So >> those are closer, right? >> What? >> Your son, >> our sun is the same. Yes, it is closer because they're one after another. Yes. Yes. But both of our but both of our moon both of our sons is in air signs is the intellectual information and both of our moons is in water sign is an emotional ner. So cancer is very nurturing kind of energy. Right. So now the thing is cancer the is the crab and the crab has like pins >> kosher by the way. >> That's correct. That's [laughter] correct. It's not kosher, but it has a shell. And it has a shell. So, cancer can protect itself. Cancer energies, they they're sensitive, but they are able to build a way to protect themselves. Yes. >> And you find that in yourself. >> Yes. Now, Scorpio, >> like if someone asks you for a favor and you can't do it, you're comfortable saying, "I'm sorry, I can't do it." >> Right. Well, so it's hard cuz I feel bad for the person. But yes, you have the ability to do that. >> That's a crabike. >> Yes. Yes. Okay. You have a >> Scorpio is also if you mess with it has a thing as a Scorpio. So it's also very emotional. >> Scorpio that's don't tell me Scorpio as is that like October, November. What is that? That's >> Yeah. So So yeah, we're going now into I think Yeah. Tomorrow we're going into Scorpio. So after Libra is Scorpio. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> So So the thing with Scorpio, Scorpio can defend itself, >> right? >> The problem with Pisces has no defense. It's fish has no defenses. It's so loving and giving. And the problem is it has to learn boundaries because people are going to take advantage of Pisces because Pisces just wants to give. They'll give you the shirt off their back. They're so loving and so one is they have Remember this is layer one. We're going to talk about some other layers. So Pisces is the most intuitive and sensitive and loving energy. Yes. Yes. And sometimes Pisces they'll build a wall because they were so hurt and that's also a problem. They're not going to let anybody in. So Pisces has to work through its So every every zodiac sign has its process, its struggle and incredible gifts. So but Pisces is incredibly loving and idealistic, wants to help people and wants to but it has to learn healthy boundaries otherwise people can take advantage give the shirt off your back. >> Right. Because when you're idealistic you attribute noble intentions to everyone. >> Yes. >> And the reality is not everybody is completely healthy yet. [laughter] >> Yes. Yes. And so so the thing is the the incredible combination right so the ear the intellect and communication right and and learning and curiosity but also having incredible intu in intuition and intuitive warm loving >> so that's a huge the sun and moon is flavoring cuz if you just looked at the sun you' just be you know more like information right >> this adds a whole new element to you >> okay okay so the sun sign in my particular case is the Gemini which is connected to Mercury which is very into information philosophy would you say deep thinking abstraction totally my stuff okay >> but then my moon sign which is Pisces is a lot about like idealistic uh somewhat would you even say like naive in a certain way like innocence >> so yeah there's a because there's just a love a love for your man it's the ultimate love for your man you have such love for everybody you want to help right but People are all kinds of people. So there needs to be some type of boundaries with it. Otherwise, it can get into trouble. >> And so one of the things that someone such as myself would probably have to learn is is self-p protection. >> Yes. Yes. And we're going to talk about that because on the other layers, >> there's some indications elsewhere in the chart that comes directly on your moon. There's more stuff coming out going on over there. Yes. Yes. Remember this is the first layer, but this is >> we have two layers. We have two layers. Sun and moon. Right. Right. I mean this the the zodiac signs is one layer. So I'm look So it's for your sun, your moon. Each each planet has a different zodiac sign has a little bit of different >> Okay. >> So and it's the combination is what makes us unique different. That's why it's not just oh everybody's a Gemini. No no no there's all these unique combinations, >> right? >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> So that's that's the that's the moon. And hey, I'll just quickly jump on about Mars. Your Mars in the 11th house, right? because is in Leo >> in the 11th house my Mars which I know that little Mars symbol it's a little arrow >> it's like an arrow it's a red arrow yes and it's it's in it's in Leo >> yes and that's a fire sign and that's where that >> what's that >> what so Leo Leo the energy of Leo is leader courageous dramatic regal so Leo is learning to be radiantly present noble and self-aware this sign has a respons Leo is the the king of the animals. Yes, it's a Leo the lion, the king of the jungle. Yes, we're here to do that. >> And King David is from the tribe of Judah and Judah is compared to a lion. >> So that's Yeah. So that's Leo. That's the that courageous type of >> Messiah who's descended from King David is the ultimate king. And it says that Mashiach was born on Tishov, which is the sign of the lion. >> Right. Right. >> These are all correct things. >> Yes. Yes. Yes. [laughter] Yes. Yes. Yes. >> Okay. All right. This is my my Gemini Mercury intellectual flow right here. I like that. Right. So, this is how you take action. This is your instinct. So, your mind is more intellectual and your heart is want loves everybody and >> but you also can take action. You also have that Leo energy. You're here to to step >> the Leo energy means that I can get stuff done. >> Yes. Yes. That's a >> why I'm not a total nutty professor. You're sitting at some you're ready to step up and be the Leo and be a leader and step out into the public cuz it's a fire sign. It's an extroverted energy. Okay. >> Pisces is very interesting. >> But I'm a Pisces, so even when I step out, >> you still have [laughter] Yes. Yes. It's balancing everything, right? >> Okay. All right. >> This is all 100% accurate so far. >> Yes. >> So, [snorts] so now, so with Leo, you now have the necessary charisma and attractiveness to make others take notice. That's what the energy of Leo is. So, your actions, so I, so the key is to make them all work together, right? So you take in all the information, you can have incredible compassion and you also can step out in the in the public and make statements and and really teach and do your thing and not have that fan be that Leo leader. So that's that combining all of them together. >> Wow. Okay. >> Okay. So that's as far as the zodiac sign. Now this is the first layer. >> That was all first layer. >> Yes, this is all first layer. >> We're only at the first layer. >> Only at the first layer. There's many, many layers and I'm not going to be able to go through all them. I'm going to go through the highlights of some of the big layers. There's so much information. Okay. >> Okay. So, let's look at headline number one. So, on the chart, it's not going to be on the screen. Just put the chart on the screen, which is the sun squared Jupiter. Let's talk about that. >> Yeah. I'm looking at a different paper that Okay, this is my personal paper that says, >> my personal >> Yes, sun squared Jupiter. So, if you look at the 10th house, >> so sun squared Jupiter, we spoke about that before. How they're at 90° angle. >> 90° angle. If you look at the 10th house to the 7th house, you see sun is connect Jupiter. Let's talk about Jupiter. Okay. >> Jupiter is all about enthusiasm and excitement and a can do attitude. Jupiter looks at something as the cap cup is half full. Yes, go for it. Do it. It's an incredible positive energy. It's a can do and it's directly connecting to your sun. So, your identity exudes Jupiter. So, people who meet you are going to see that you have this positivity can do attitude. Let's go. Ra, go for it. It's a like a jolly type of energy. It's an abundant energy. It's >> that's what they see. >> Yes. That's what they see in your sun. They're not seeing your moon. >> They're not seeing your moon, but they're seeing your sun. And but people love Jupiter. Just know cuz Jupiter's enthusiasm. Who doesn't want >> We can do it. We're going to do it. Right. It's very interesting. Yes. So you have Jupiter connected to your sun. I have Jupiter connected to my moon. So my emotions I get very excited. Yes. So again, it's a little different, but it's a similar energy of enthusiasm and excitement. We have a lot in common, [laughter] you know. >> Okay. All right. If I may say so, you know. So yes. So that's sun Jupiter. So you can see in the chart. So that's influencing. So you see how Jupiter so son is your core self your identity whatever you end up doing and being it's going to be somebody with enthusiasm and an excitement and a can do attitude versus the many other energies that are not like that like Saturn is very much no the cup is half empty kind of attitude. >> But what does it mean that Jupiter is at a square with the sun? >> So Jupiter there's a strong energy su Jupiter is super Jupiter is called the supercharger of the planets. It's supercharging your identity. So the square it's not it's like so maybe the the like in on the spectrum the negative side is sometimes if like a younger without experience you might think you can do anything you can fly like too much of the like you know don't get caught like if somebody has Jupiter be careful like get rich quick schemes or things like that because Jupiter like oh yeah I can do it I can no so you have to have that balance but to the personality it just adds excitement and and and enthusiasm and just a sense of happiness you know I like to call purim is energy of Jupiter. Think of what's going on Jupiter. Everything is supercharged on Purum, right? People are happy, giving money, like eating food, opening the house to every that's a very Jupitarian, overthe-top almost type of energy. >> Okay. >> So, that's that's part of your identity, part of your son. Okay. Let's go to headline number two. >> Yeah. Moon square Neptune. >> Yes. This gets very interesting. So, there are two planets connecting to your moon, right? So, we have Neptune. Let's see. If you look in the third house, you have Neptune that looks like a green pitchfork. That's at 7° of Sagittarius. Yeah. And that's doing a square to your moon in the sixth house, which is at 5° of Pisces. That's one planet. We'll talk about that in a second. >> Then if you look in the 10th house, >> you have Saturn, which is at 5° of Cancer, which is trining your moon at 5° of Pisces. Okay? So, there's two energies connecting to your moon. Neptune and Saturn. >> All right. >> Okay. Now, as I describe each one, it's not taking into account the other one. >> Now, moon is the emotions, your emotions, more internal, your in sun is more your role out there in society. Moon is more what your inner world, >> your feelings, your Yes. Your ego, your >> So, we spoke about my son, which is what people are experiencing of me. >> Can I say like my sun is what people experience of me, my moon is what I'm experiencing of me. >> Yes. But people are going to feel your moon also. people like but primarily what they're getting is my sun. >> Your sun? Yes. >> Right. And the sun is Jupiter. >> Moon. How about that can do attitude? Right. Okay. Fine. And then the moon is more my internal world. >> Yes. >> And that's squaring with Neptune trining with Saturn. >> Yes. So let's break those two down. Okay. And remember, keep in mind as I described one, there's still another one to come that >> Got it. Chang. Okay. So, first let's talk about Neptune. >> Okay. >> So, this is one of my favorite energies is Neptune. Neptune Neptune is all about elevation and transcendence and this window into the higher world. This is not about your practical day-to-day life. Neptune always wants something more higher. So, it's deeply connected to spirituality, to idealism, to charity work. It also can be like artistic sensibilities like again >> Yeah. Well, you were saying that the the past the first seven is like the transcendent because they're far out there. They're more encompassing, >> right? But so so Neptune is just like, you know, it's just just elevation and oneness. Neptune is connected to Pisces. Remember, every zodiac sign also has like a planet that's associated with it. So that energy of Pisces that's unconditional love, right? >> Unconditional. Like that's what Neptune, it's a window into the higher world. Like it's we're bringing something down, >> lofty, spiritual. >> Yes. Yes. So that's what Neptune and my moon is getting. >> Your moon is Yeah. And your moon is in Pisces already. So already at the first layer, it's already in that. Now, not just that, it's being flooded with Neptune, incredible elevation, transcendence, unconditional love for humanity, love for your fellow man, love for God. Like there's just like the ultimate. So everything I said on the first layer about Pisces, add times 100 with Neptune. Yes. >> In squaring with the moon. >> Yes. Now the thing with Neptune again, everything's on a spectrum. So the healthy form of Neptune is the the what Neptune does it pushes us to want something more when we won't be satisfied with life as it is. We need something more. So the healthy form is spirituality, art, all these different things. The unhealthy form is any type of addictions because if you're high what happens? You're also in that bliss state of bliss. Neptune is connected to bliss. So when you're high you're not feeling anything. You're out of this world. You're a good it's the same high but it's horrifically damaging to you if you so many addicts many people understand the root of it is cuz they're looking to connect with something higher and yeah and unfortunately they found the wrong tool they didn't yet know so I met many people in recovery who have the energy of Neptune connected to it and so now they found something higher they found spirituality and >> one of the things that I I explain to people about about addiction is like self-medication is that a lot of times you have people who are so idealistic that the world never measures up. It's always like I know what things could be and then I see what it is and it's so harsh and ugly and then you got to numb yourself from it. So 100% in fact in Neptune the negative side can be disillusionment and depression and disappointment because you have this incred that's directly that energy supposed to be. >> Yes. Yes. >> Right. Right. >> So that's a huge part that's connected to your moon. Now >> you also have right so Neptune has no boundaries and openness. Now if you just had a moon in Pisces and a Neptune I would say that would be really tough because you really you'd be so open. You have to have some boundaries. So that's the beauty is Hashem sent you Saturn >> okay >> and Saturn is also connecting to your moon right and Saturn is all about discipline and restrictions and and becoming an authority it's all about hard work it's all about achievement Saturn is great at setting up barriers and boundaries boundaries yes >> I was wondering when those come in >> and so yes so Saturn that really help now if it was just Saturn by itself sometimes connected to the moon that can be really hard for the emotions because we might not have felt emotionally supported growing up because Saturn is restricting our emotions. Now, so the good thing is I don't [snorts] know your personal experience but having Neptune that also can help ease it. So having that kind of balance you know between them but the big key what with what I find when Saturn and Neptune connect to a planet I've had this with a few people that they were addiction counselors. >> Really? >> Isn't that something that you used to do? I I mean I wrote a whole book about recovery. >> Okay. So that so think about that. That's Saturn. That's discipline and restrictions on the Neptune on the addiction side on the it's bringing >> Neptune is like that high-flying like >> Yes. That like like and and you Saturn is >> Saturn comes and says >> discipline, right? So there's a healthy way to express it. It's not just free-for-all. Saturn brings discipline and and you know like it's the I always call Saturn the life coach or the drill sergeant. That's the one who gives you the instructions and helps you like that and that's also authority. >> So it's deeply connected. So that fits so beautifully that you became an authority >> on addiction issues on you know your >> saying that's the Saturn Neptune and Neptune and the moon in Pisces that combination of all those three >> is very specific to to try to do that. Yeah. >> Okay. >> So that's just very very powerful. Again there's a lot there with Neptune. There's a lot of things to go deeper and to explore, but that's just the overall of of the moon. So, there's a lot going on in each person's chart. And you can see it for most people, they can see how it reflects in their lives. >> Yeah. >> You know, and again, it's really important. That's why I like showing in the chart. It's not just me saying that I know that you did this and I'm saying this. I'm showing you in the chart how Saturn and Neptune are both connected to your moon. Okay. So, let's talk about another let's talk about your Mercury. Okay. And I remember Mercury's intellect. >> Yes. Well, first of all, you have Mercury sexiling Venus, right? So, Mercury is is making a smooth flowing energy with Venus, right? So, Venus was Vina. >> Oh, that's good news. >> Yes. That's actually good. >> Mercury and Venus are train. They're considered companions. >> Yes. Yes. Now, the problem Yeah. It's excellent. >> No, don't tell me the problem. Hold on. >> No, no, no, no, no. You don't have the problem. Other people. >> Oh, [laughter] other people. >> Other people. >> Okay. What problem other people have? Sometimes people, you ever met people who are very leftrain? They're very logical, linear, they they can't hear of something great or something if it's not proven scientifically. If it's not like they're like, did they do double blind studies, right? They're very mercury, very left brain. They don't have access to their Venus. They unable >> they can't they can't move. So, I love whenever Mercury and Venus in a chart are connected, that allows a person to be both. Yes. has to be both logical, linear, but also be able to be spiritual and see that and have the the and not exclusive. So that's a really nice thing whenever I see that um Mercury and Venus connect. Yes, that's what I was telling you. So you have that in your chart. Mercury connected to Venus. >> That's good news. >> And then let's talk about your Mercury. >> Okay. [clears throat] >> Your Mercury in the 10th house is conjuncting Saturn. So the beauty of this so Mercury's communication and thinking and remember Saturn is what is discipline and restriction and hard work and also authority. >> You told me that regarding my Saturn in my moon >> moon. Yes. And you also have it connected to your Mercury. >> Hold on a second. I'm going to guess something. >> Okay. >> So Saturn is restriction in the moon area. It's like sort of like emotional restriction. You said you said it could even lead to like feeling disconnected, you know, in a in a if it devolves into a bad way. But in my case, you said my my my moon Saturn was was was Neptune. >> Yeah. Has that Neptune. >> So you really need some Saturn in there otherwise you'd float you float away. But the Saturn in my Mercury, this Mercury conjuncted with Saturn, Mercury is the creativity and the deep thinking and philosophizing. The Saturn is the boundaries. So is I'm just guessing. Okay. Is that like is that like pattern recognition and systemizing system systemizing like >> patterns of thought like how to create like a system or >> Yes. So it can be right because there's a lot of discipline connected to it usually when Saturn is connected to Mercury. So sometimes let's say when we're younger in childhood we might have some kind of restriction around learning either two things. Either we have a strong authority figure when it comes to that or sometimes people have a hard time in school or in yeshiva in some way with it but because we have to work harder Saturn makes you work harder we become an authority and almost always whenever I see Saturn strongly connected to Mercury person ends up becomes a teacher a professor a lecturer a podcast where you're an authority on communication and thinking right so like so you're a teacher so Saturn Mercury is ultimately in some form ends up being some kind of teacher Okay. >> So, you know, like I knew somebody who had Saturn Mercury, they dropped out of high school, but then a couple years later they went back in the college, they got ended up getting a PhD and so even though they had a really hard time with school and so again, so that's what I'm always trying to say that the difficulty, the struggle, right? Them dropping out and dropping out of high school ended up being an incredible favor because then they really strengthened them to find their own pathway and then they ended up becoming a PhD and that's what Saturn Mercury. So that's somebody who's a lecturer, a teacher, podcaster, you name it. So that's that's again that's some there's a lot of other pieces to it, but then it just there's too much information. Just the fin one final thing that I would just point out >> is um your your south node and north node. >> Okay. >> So let's talk about >> No clue what that is. >> Yes. So if you look in the fourth house, it's that that's the one that looks like looks like headphones. >> Okay. And it's an access because the oppos it's always connected. The opposite is the upside down in the 10th house upside down headphones. That's the south node. >> So the south node is where we coming from the place that we're comfortable in. And the north node is what we're here to do in this world. >> So it's like the trajectory of your journey. >> Yes. So it's not not something that comes naturally but as we work hard on it we can achieve that. >> Uhhuh. >> So your south node is in Gemini. So that's more the intellectual. >> That's my sun sign. >> Yes. Yes. So that's your strength that's coming from. Yes. That's where you're comfortable. >> I was born on third base when it comes to intellect. Yes. >> I got that. I got I was given that as a gift and that >> Yes. Yes. >> Where's the struggle? Where am I trying to get to? >> So you're here to also to learn how to like balance that and not be so much about the information. Sagittarius is more about becoming the preacher. The south node is where you're coming from and that's a Gemini and the intellect which comes easy to me. It's >> all great. Yes. >> The north node is where I'm trying to get to. >> Sagittarius. >> So that's the preacher. That's the one who's fiery, who's inspirational. It's not so much the logical, you know, it's much more the Venus side versus the Mercury side. Not that the Mercury is bad. That's a great foundation to have. But you're ultimately here to be that Sagittarius, the advocate. >> Pascious is the the archer. >> Yes. That's advocator. It's >> it's you're here to be an advocator. These are the ones who preach. It's the preacher, the advocator, the inspirer. You're here to inspire people. It's fiery. It's not logical. You should do this. >> I get annoyed, by the way, that people prefer >> inspiration to information. Let me just tell you the truth, and that should be enough. Why do they need a joke? Why do they need a you know why does it have to be entertaining? If I would tell you the truth that should be enough >> that's that's >> right. So that that's the lo that's the logical side but there's the the side where you're here to really bring out >> is really the advocated the inspirational side >> that so again it's connected with the Gemini it's not like you're not abandoning it >> right you're not aband that's foundation you bring it with you but your foundation you bring it with you but you're here really to advocate to teach to inspire >> you are doing it that's what you are you are doing that already you know >> so I'm on the way >> yes >> in the right direction so you're saying keep going >> yes Yes. [laughter] Yes. Yes. Yes. >> Uh-huh. >> So, this gives you again just with these four or five major aspects, it gives you a very clear picture of who you are, what your purpose, >> I'm going to ask you an uncomfortable question, >> please. Please. >> And I don't want you to censor yourself at all. >> Wow. Okay. >> What's the scariest thing you saw? If there's anything scary, disturbing, troubling, anything you saw, you were like, I would be careful about that. So to me the the the most dangerous part to I I would think is the the moon the Pisces moon with Neptune you know like really just to me vulnerability yes having healthy boundaries that to me is like just so again and I and I feel like you have the tool with Saturn there but still your moon is in Pisces your Neptune that's just like really so again I don't know if in younger days it was easier to to push you to somebody I really need your help you don't stand this is going to change my life give me I need $10,000 or whatever. ever then Neptune just wants to help >> because the idealism is so active. I first of all it's it's interesting because one hand I'm very cynical and I can sniff a scam from a mile away. On the other hand I want to believe in people and you know what even if I know it's a scam I wish it could work. I want it to work. >> That's [laughter] Saturn. You see Saturn helps you sniff. If you didn't have Saturn, Yeah. you'd be like literally I I would tell I need you need a bodyguard to protect you from, you know, like that. >> Yeah. >> So that's what Saturn helps so much to be able to do that, but yet you still want to help, you know, like >> but even like you think again writing about addictions. These are people who are the most lost, who feel the most lo like really you're like no, there's a way out. There's a thing. That's the ultimate idism. Love, never giving up on anybody, never giving up, doing whatever it takes to help them again. So in a healthy way, that's the most amazing thing in the world. The the danger is going overboard, not having that healthy boundary, like going too far in in like just trying to help and not like >> Okay, now what kind of people will I be the most successful in interacting with? >> So that's already connected more. I have to see their chart and your chart because it's not necessarily a zodiac sign. It's like is your sun connecting to their Uranus? Is there is there you know what's going on with is their Venus? Is your sun shining on their Venus? what's the different connections between them? So, I would have to see the two charts. But automatically, you're going to like Gemini, any kind of information, somebody who likes to communicate, intellectual, right? That's natural. And the same thing with Pisces, you want somebody who's compassionate and loving, somebody who's very harsh, and you're not going to that's not going to speak to your your compassionate side, right? So, automatically it has to be within that framework. But I would never say look for a particular zodiac sign or look for there's other air signs. Libra is an air sign. Aquarius is an air sign. You can have incredible intellectual confirmations with with Aquariuses. >> Anyone I should be careful about or any >> again there's no there's no no sign is a negative, right? So it's really understanding what's >> some combinations are more challenging combinations. >> Yes, definitely. So then I have to see the charts. It's not something you can know to look out for. You would have to see the specifics. [clears throat] How is the chart landing together? How >> you mentioned to me that you've done like charts for whole families. >> Yes. Yes. >> Sort of like family therapy type >> astrology. Yes. so helpful. Sometimes you can have such I did between a mother and a daughter. She was a four-year-old girl and the mother was having such a hard time whenever like she she allowed her brothers and sisters to be the fur but whenever the mother wanted to be the fur couldn't accept it >> and I showed her that the the child had a square in her chart and own internal like conflict and the mother which was in a very sensitive area was in Pisces and the mother had four signs in Leo and that she was lying. Yes. And this mother was incredible woman who was doing incredible things in the world. >> She was overwhelming the girl. >> Yes. And it was and the girl was a little fish. She was getting terrified. >> But the the mother also had a moon in cancer. And I told her, >> don't try these other parts were trying to fix that. Just come with love. That's it. Don't try to correct them part of her personality. >> Yes. Just connect with her through affirmation and love. Just that part. Don't do the other cuz normally mother I want to teach you how to do. Don't do that. There's a there's a conflict there. Yes. It's going to rub on a very sensitive spot for the daughter. Just come to her. >> She was able to do that and it made a difference. >> Yes. Made a huge difference. Right. So that understanding what's happening in general I tell people all the time you know the vagon says raise your child according to his way. He says explicitly according to his astrological chart. >> Oh really? >> Yes. Yes. It's in it's in the book. I have it in the book. I bring down the excerpt because you have to know your child's chart. >> Yes. You have to know who you are. >> My gosh. I should put that into my parenting course. >> Yes. >> I'll offer that as a service. Yes. >> And my parents of course they can come to get their kids charged. >> Yes. Because so many times like if a child I see a child I see this all the time you know the mother has one energy like let's say cancer very gentle and so and the child has five fires they what are you doing you can't tell that energy is wrong for the child. You just you have to give him proper outlets. Understand who your child is. Don't try to make him like you. And the same thing I sometimes feel so bad for children in school. Everybody has the same framework. Somebody who has Jupiter Uranus and Mars on his moon they can't sit still. Why do you expect them behave? Look how everybody else is behaving. What are you talking about? They have they need to Hashem created them to express the energy. Why are you putting them? Sure, you can hone it. You can add discipline, but allow them to be who they are. >> That's a huge thing. So yes, it's so helpful to know your child's chart, to know your chart to understand the dynamics. >> You ever go into a business and do the chart for like the whole company? >> Can do that too. Yes. Every family or relationships. Yes. the people you work with. I'll give you an example. Yeah. Rabbat Conn is the one who gives Huskama my book, right? He's Kinheart today. He's 94 years old and you know, he was so nice, so incredible. When I wrote to him and he just everything incredible. After he gave me the Scma, I looked up his birth chart and I compared his chart and my chart. So, I have a North Node. North Node is your purpose in this world, >> right? Where you're going to >> Yes. What what you're here to achieve, what you're here to do. His Saturn exactly connected with my North Node. So his authority is connecting with my purpose in the world and he gave dusk on my >> wow right >> so he was able to lend his authority to your purpose. >> Yes. So it means it's unbelievable that Hashem he was 94 he's born 94 years ago. I was born 40 50 years later. Hashem set [clears throat] it all up that at this time he should be the one. So every person who comes into our lives is all set up by Hashem. It's all part of the process. there's some kind of energy that we're pulled to somebody in a particular time to connect with them. It's so unreal for different reasons. Yeah. Yeah. For all kinds of reasons, for everything. You know, if you if there's an author that you love or a speaker or a rabbi that you really love, very likely you have some some type of astrological energy connecting you. I always tell people chemistry, you know what chemistry is? Chemistry is astrological energy connecting you to somebody. >> That's what chemistry is. It's very, very powerful. >> Yes. >> Um, okay. What would you advise people if they're watching this and they're getting interested and they're curious? >> Um, obviously they should they they they should or they can uh get this book uh kosher astrology. You can get it on Amazon or you can get it at kosherastro.com. Okay, fine. They can read this book. But even after they read this book, I I don't think they're going to be able to make a chart like like you can. So what what what would you advise somebody? >> So there's a few different things. So yes, you can you can study astrology. So start with the book. It goes through everything. First, what's not kosher? What is kosher? >> And I love the fact that you have lots of sources. >> Yes. Everything that I bring down, I bring down like more casual, but there are scholarly footnotes here and sources. And anyone who's coming from like a yeshiva background where they want to be able to look something up, >> everything is there. Hundreds of sources. Absolutely. Everything is covered. I go through all the famous, we had a famous Jewish astrologers throughout our history. Iben Ezra was an astrologer. Many astrologers. But yes, so we have all that >> if you want. So it's a process. There's 75 pages of illustrations that really help you understand astrology. It breaks it down so you can understand what a sun, moon, all these different energies, what happened when the planets were discovered. And then yeah, so there is I I'm hoping soon to create a course to teach people how to become kosher astrologers. Yes, >> that'll be great. >> Yes, I want it to be thousands of people out there. Everybody should be This is such a gift from Hashem, you know. It's something that and and it's something it's throughout it's deeply part of Yiddish Kite. It's deeply part of Judaism and it's something throughout our history and I it's something to really I'm hoping to really reawaken that. And if you want your personal birth chart, you can go to my website. I can I'll set up an appointment. I go through I spend a couple of hours going through your chart and I write five to seven pages of insights and then we set up a time for like an hour hour and a half to really go through and understand who you are like. Yes, that was just that. There's also I go through the timing the different energies that are coming into your life. That's also very powerful. >> Okay. So, let me let me just clarify what we went through was just my profile snapshot of my personality who I am just personality. But like let's say I came to you and I said um this year tough pay what's coming up for me >> this year >> I actually have some of that if you like to go through it. Yes I >> I think the people watching would be fascinated. >> Okay let's do >> what's coming up for us. >> You can put it up on the screen. Yes. You can highlight the top part. The progressed moon cycle. >> Okay. >> I'm going to start with that. So yes, you can if you want you can make that larger the top the top half. >> Okay. >> So yes so let's talk about it. So in so today's right. >> Yeah it is. Yeah >> right. So so every what happens? The sun meets the moon. Right. And what's is a new beginning a new opportunity right? When we benches we say this month. So regardless of what happened the last month this is a new ability a new start to the >> which means month is is the word. >> It's renewal right? It's a sense of a renewal right? So that's very powerful, right? So what happens? The sun meets the moon. 7 and 12 days later, we have a first quarter moon. That's when the moon looks like the shape of a banana, right? There's a first quarter moon. These are the moon phases that we're going to be talking about now. Then 7 and a half days later, we have a full moon. Now the full moon is very important in Judaism, right? Because the first night of Pak is always on the full moon. The first night of [laughter] Purim is always full moon. And what's the full moon? Full moon is all about revelation. That's when the moon is the most illuminated. That's when the sky is the most illuminated. So it's all about self-revelation. That's when you can really learn about yourself. There's incredible amounts of. So it's a very important concept in Judaism. Yeah. Then seven and a half days later we have a last quarter moon and then seven and a half days later after that we start a whole new cycle in one. Right. So that's a 30-day cycle of renewal. >> Right. >> So in astrology we also have this cycle but instead of a 30-day cycle it's a 30 year cycle. >> Oh wow. >> Yes. And it's individual to each person that goes through an opportunity for a whole new beginning >> every 30 years. >> Yes. It's not every 30 years. Every person has starts at a different time depending on their chart because everybody's born with a different moon phase. So depending on when you're born, I can go through a list for each person. >> Oh, your cycle may you may be born close to the end of a cycle. >> Right. Right. So right. So then it's not somebody might be born in the middle of a cycle. So they have so everybody has a different thing depending on their chart. >> So this is just a very powerful it's an just an incredible. So whenever you have a new moon that starts a new 30-year it's a whole new opportunity. So regardless of who you were in the past or what you did a new opportunity and even then you're planting a seed. You're planting of a tree that you're here to grow into a full tree. And at every quarter a new branch grows and it brings it all together towards the end of the cycle. That's when the tree bears fruit. That's what we're here to get through. That's in the big picture. You can be doing things all along the way, but the big picture is to see. >> Okay. So, how how much how much longer do I have to wait until I hit my my new cycle? >> So, [laughter] what >> 29 and a half years. >> Okay. So, so let's look at the chart. So, here's the thing. So, you had your new moon on March 26, 2012. Now, it's really important to understand it's not about that date. Nothing would have happened could, but nothing would have happened on that date. It's like the changing of the seasons. Like if you have an ocean liner, it doesn't just turn on a dime. It takes a while. Or September 21st is fall. It doesn't mean that all the leaves fall down and instantly turns cold. Is a process. So you start thinking 3 6 months, 9 months. As much as 18 months before things can start, as much as 18 months after it's a process that's starting. So some part of your life ends and like a new part is kind of like beginning. So that happened around 2012 2013 around around that 2012 2013. >> Do you remember something happening in that time? >> Um I would have been I wasn't I wasn't 40 yet, right? So I've been 38 um 39 remember what I was doing at that time. So I I love people who keep diaries because then when I talk about them they instantly turn oh wow that you know and I realized also by doing this we forget so much of what's happening in our lives >> you know it's like really I went back and I charted my entire life and I looked what was I doing at this time what was I doing I looked through all my records all my things and I have a whole thing of my entire life >> you look back at my emails my Gmail account is old enough that I can >> so see then you can see so that was a new beginning >> okay >> then in November of 2018 so at 2018 2019 that was your first quarter moon that was also like so something may have ended or something new have begun or you like you meet new people you have new information or you start some kind of new process and then the >> and that's probably when we is that when we came to New York 2018 well do you remember it was the how old were you >> okay fine so 2018 that's when major move. >> Yeah, it was from coming to New York. >> Oh, wow. Okay. >> Yeah. >> So, so yes. So, that's >> that was the quarter. >> Yes. So, that's a that's a very big step. And the next one is coming up for you next year. November of 2026 is your full moon. >> Oh, my full moon's coming up. >> So, this is Oh, this is good. Yes. Yes. It's all about self-revelation. You learn whole new things about yourself. You discover things. It's such a powerful time because what's going to be coming out is what you're then going to bring forward into the world. So between the full moon and disseminating moon is a time when you create unique formula or format or or different things that you're here to bring out and at your disseminating moon is when you share it with the world and the last quarter moon is when it really reaped the benefits of it. So I'll give you an example in my life at my first quarter moon that's when I first discovered astrology. Now I had no idea at the time about 15 years ago right? >> Yes. Yes. I had no idea at the time how what a big role but I was just fascinated by it. That's when I discovered. So that was one piece of the puzzle >> at your first quarter. >> First quarter at the full moon which is also I went through some process. I really learned about my ego and different parts and tremendous growth process. >> But you're still learning. >> Yes. But I but I then I I met an artist and the artist said that I also can be an artist and I was like wait I'm a philosopher. I love psychology. I love learning. Never thought of myself as an artist. I don't have good hand-to- eye coordination. But I did have different ideas that I wanted to bring out. And Hashem sent me the right tool. Adobe Illustrator, an illustrator program that I instantly loved and my book has 75 pages of illustration that I created myself that I never had until my 40s. I never had the skill set. I knew that I had the skill set level of revelation, self revelation. >> So I learned some of the difficult stuff that I had to work on, but also revealed some of the gifts that I have and so I was open to it. So that >> so full moon is like where your self-expression. >> Yes. And had all kinds of ideas. I couldn't stop. I had so many incredible ideas. I did pages and pages of illustrations. I had no idea what it was for. I just ideas I had to get it out. It was just incredible inspirational. And then at my disseminating moon is when you share with the world. I started writing my book >> at my dissing moon. At my last quarter moon, it took me five years to write the book until it was finally produced. And at my last quarter moon is when the book finally was published. And now I'm like two years after my last quarter moon. And now I'm sharing it with the world. But like, so this is a 15-year process that started from my first quarter. So if you look at the big picture, you can see now by the way I did a lot of you don't have to wait until I did a lot of things along the way. I ran retreats. I did [laughter] I did all kinds of different things but this was the overlying the big picture. It's about everything that started at your new moon. All the information everything that you learned your experiences you're then able to find a unique formula and bring it out to >> you're saying if next year is a full moon for me. >> Yes. Yes. That means I should have expectations of heightened output of step one is illumination. Just becoming awareness. Full moon is really revealing any kind of shadow stuff, any kind of parts of our ego that we haven't fully worked through. You know, there's a lot of depth and you have a you have a a Pisces moon with Neptune. There's a lot of depth there. There's next level of stuff. And so the full moon reveals it, shines a light. opens it up and that transformation. We'll look at different energies that are coming in. We'll we'll go through specifically certain energies that are going to be prevalent in your life at that time. But yes, and it and that's going to open up a whole wellspring of ideas that then can come pouring forth after that. Yes. >> Okay. Okay. You said there's more specific. >> Yes. We're going to get to more sick. So that's the overall the 30-year process. >> Okay. >> So now look at some of the transits that are coming up. So if you can go to Yes. to the next slide. So this is Uranus. This is very interesting. So Uranus the planet Uranus represents is the individuation process. It's about rebellion, freedom, independence, authenticity. Why? Because Uranus is all about. So for example, you know, we all have different ideas and things that we might not share with the world because either because of cancel culture or what is our rebi going to say it's going to affect our so we keep it inside of ourselves but we have certain things. >> When Uranus comes around that's a time when we can know we have to be authentic entry. Yes, I have to be true to who I am. I need to speak my truth regardless of the consequences. It's a very powerful individuation force. I in the Torah I talk about this within when Hashem told them, "Leave your father's land. Leave your father's home and I will turn you into a great nation." So that's the individuation process. The whole world believed in idol worship. The Ram said, "No, there's only one God. This is all nonsense." He stood up. He got thrown into the fire. He had push back, but he spoke his truth. And that's what made him the father of the Jewish people. It's the individuation process when we have the strength to speak our truth regardless of things that we may have been afraid to do previously. Now, we're here to step into that. >> Okay? >> And this is happening at your full moon. You have Uranus connecting to your moon, to your emotions. >> And like I said, I I I think there's a deep well over there with Neptune and Pisces. And Uranus is going to bring out, and I always tell people, by the way, this is a great thing for shambias. I I always like to catch people before they have a Uranus transit because the person that you love it it's a time of exploration. They have to be more connected to themselves. They may have been too much sacrificing, too much giving Uranus gives you the courage and ability. No, no, I got to take care of myself right now. It's it's meaning it it if something is imbalance, if I'm too much dedicating to everybody else and I'm not developing myself. This sometimes might push it a little bit in the other direction where I'm more focused on myself than and people are so not used to it. So I've I've gone through this with couples where they they couldn't the spouse was like I never saw my husband like that. He was always there for me and now he's >> so I try to explain this is a time for you to support him. This is he needs to and he'll come back to center but right now he might have to go a little bit overboard to find his own voice to find his own truth to find his and sometimes if we have any kind of obligations that we're resentful that we took on right that but because this is my responsibility my duty but when Uranus we need to renegotiate it. It's a time when we're not going to be able to do that. So this is a [laughter] incredible energy Hashem sends us at a particular time when we need to break out and we need to speak our truth >> and you're saying that could come at any time. It happens to be in my case it's coming during a full >> it's coming for no between August 6 I have transits one second no no transits are what are transits so understand transits are >> this coming August >> 6 yes starting it starts it's planet Uranus in the sky yeah >> is going to be at a degree it's going to be at 5° of Aries exactly squaring your moon at 5 degrees Pisces >> okay >> and so no I'm sorry that's Neptune Uranus is going to be in um it's going it's going to be in in Gemini. It's going to be in Gemini. Uranus right now is in Gemini. It's going to be at five degrees of Gemini squaring your um your moon in um yeah in in Pisces. >> Okay. >> Right. So, Uranus, what's going to happen? Right. So, so for about 9 months >> from starting in August, right, till next year, May of 2027, that energy is going to come more into your life and you're going to see it and feel it and your loved ones are going to see it. prediction here. Starting late summer of 2026, I'm going to be dropping some truth bombs and I may be ruffling some feathers. >> Yes. >> And people may not like what they see or hear, but trust me, I'm not trying to shock anyone. I'm just doing what I what I true to who I am. >> Yes. Now, here's the thing. It's coming at the same time as your full moon. >> So, these are two separate things. >> That's a good thing. Yes. At the same time. So it's all about the emotions becoming revealed and honest and true. So again, so that to me that's again especially the Pisces moon with Neptune that dedication and love for everybody and being there for everybody. There's something that you need to take ownership of and really step out into. So this is the the the So you're going to feel both the full moon and the Uranus moon, two separate things at the same time. So that's a to me a very powerful process that's coming up for you. >> Okay. That's great. All right. Beautiful. Well, I I feel like have a responsibility to >> to use it out. >> Yes. Yes. And then again, I don't like going too far out, but there's a process. I like seeing the process. So, at your disseminating moon, which is happening in 2030, you're going to have Uranus connecting to your nose. >> 203 when that's in 5 years. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's a process. Okay. Again, so it's going to be connecting to your purpose in this world. So, not only your emotions is going to it's going to grow to that level. Your purpose in this world is also going to have this Uranus. I need to be authentic and true. Even if people criticize or people don't like that I'm doing this, I need to do this. This is my purpose. And it's going to connect to your sun because remember you have your sun next to the nodes and your chart. >> Sure. >> So your sun is the ind is a huge individuation process. This happens once in 22 years. So so to me the full moon is revealing your emotions at disseminating when you're here to share with the world. your purpose and your identity and your affirmation is all going to be Uranus being authentic and true and when you're sharing with the world. So this is even stronger coming up. This is that process that's coming up for you. I think that's super exciting to see that. >> Are you okay? >> Yeah. [laughter] I'm just it's exciting. Understand here's the here's the beauty of it. This is all Hashem. That's the beauty. Like people Oh, don't be scared of it, >> right? Hashem has planned your life that this is the time to give you that boost. You know when I discovered astrology I also had Uranus hitting my son you know so that was something cuz you know what astrology you start talking people think it's woo woo people are like going to right so it requires a certain strength wait I know this is true I'm going to speak my truth so Uranus is here to help us it's individuation process so it's beautiful that Hashem knows exactly when to bring it into our lives just incredibly powerful then if you look at the next page on the other side >> you have Neptune yes you should have the second page also there. Neptune. Yeah, >> Neptune. Right. So, remember what we spoke about. You have Neptune very strong. It's about elevation and transcendence, >> idealism, dreams. >> So, this is so powerful. During your disseminating moon when you're sharing with the world in 2030, Neptune is going to be connecting with your Mercury, with your communication and thinking, >> right? Mercury's communication and thinking. Neptune is the idealism. So, being able to share the dream. >> Yes. And not only that, it's about tapping into the collective. Neptune is about the ability to tap into the collective. That means you have a powerful message to share with the world. Whenever you have Mercury, Neptune, I'll give you an example. >> Neil Armstrong, >> okay, >> in his birth chart, he had Mercury conjuncting Neptune and his most famous thing he when he landed on moon, he said, "One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind," which inspired the entire world. Everybody stopped at that. That's Mercury Neptune. You're here to inspire the world and share an incredible inspirational message. And not only that, Mercury Neptune. So, Neptune, Neptune sends inspiration to your thinking and communication. I have to tell you right now, I have Neptune on my Mercury right now. The what you're going to have in a couple of years, I'm glad we got you on the podcast now. >> Yes. No. No. That's why Hashem created this now. That's why I'm sharing my message with the world. I'm inspiring the world. >> So, might be created another phase in your life. You're not running around and speaking. >> No, I've never done this. I never in my life I'm I was never a public figure. I never spoke. I'm here to inspire the world. I'm here to bring communicate my message that Hashem sent me. By the way, when I had Neptune on my son, that's when I was inspired to write the book. So, yes, it brings inspiration and now I'm here to communicate that to the world. So, that's different and you're going to have it at your disseminated moon also. So, you're going to be incredibly inspir. And by the way, >> the beauty of it when you're tapping into the collective, you don't have to work hard to sell what you're what what you're here to give because you're tapping into what the people want, what they need, because that was the original. That's what Neptune does and you have that. So this is your next level of bringing >> but that's in 2030. >> Yes in four years, five years. Again, [laughter] look at the big picture. I I bet there's a bunch of other energy process and the unique energies that are coming in at those times to really help you and push you. So just incredibly powerful. And the same thing again the seven moon you have a bunch of really power. You can have Pluto connecting to your Venus. And this is a huge thing that I talk about. Venus is our values, right? And it's also our self value. And this is a huge thing for so many people that in order to really do what we need to do, you have to believe about relationships and love are based on self love. >> Yes. Because self Yes. the self- loveve. And also everything that you do in life, if you don't believe in yourself, you know, like that that what you're doing is is what I brought up last time and I learned to the new a new word to add in that it's right. [laughter] I learned that here that we're all understanding that we all have a godly essence and that's what that's why we're valuable beings accept your godly value. >> Yes. And that each person the garra says each person has to believe that the whole world that my mission in the world is so powerful it's worthwhile that the whole world was created just for me. >> So when Pluto meets Venus >> it's transforming your Venus who you are your values. So Pluto is all it's about its intensity. It's all about empowerment and it's about a death and rebirth. It's the caterpillar transforming into the butterfly. That's when it's incredible empowerment. So, who you really are is really going to emerge at that time. So, you have all of these incredible inspirational energy. You have the Uranus energy being authentic individuation and you have this Pluto, this transformation and rebirth and becoming who you are. And I give an example in the Torah of this. We had Asov was chasing Yakov to kill him. So Yakob was running for his life. It was a very dark time in his life. In fact, it says that he he was going to split his family into two camps. So just in case as kills one, that's a very dark time. >> Yeah. >> During that time, the Torah says what happened one night he went out in the field during that time and he started wrestling with a is. And the mafam explained that it was a malik, an angel, and he wrestled with him all night. It was his dark night of the soul. And in fact, the malik injured him. He injured his hip socket. That's why we don't need to give hanasha. But in the end, he beat the Malik and he overcame him and he told him, "Give me a blessing." And the Malik said, "No longer will you be the person you were before, Yakov. Now you're transforming into Israel, into the father of the Jewish people, who's an incredible Plutonian transformative process. That's all about empowering >> and a rebirth." >> Yes. It's the ending of the old self. Cuz now what happened? He went, he met with Asov. There was no killing. All the problems go bye-bye because he was no longer Yakov. He was now Yol. He transformed. He went through his dark night of the soul and he transformed. That's the energy of Pluto. And it's so powerful when we have it at different times in our lives. And this is your whole sense of your values of who you are. Your sense of self value is taking is ready for the next level. I'll give you a example of a few people who went through this Pluto. Javier Malay. He's the president. >> You know, he was here >> where >> in this building, this house. >> No. >> Yeah. A few weeks ago. >> Wow. >> Yeah. Wow. Oh, by the way, speaking about um hold on, let me make sure I say it astrologically correctly. That What's authenticity? No, no, no, no. Were you telling what's the authenticity in >> Uranus? >> Uranus is the authenticity. >> Yes. >> I posted a picture of Malay. He came here and I posted a picture and I lost thousands of followers cuz apparently it's political. It's polarizing. I mentioned one political thing. I I a president of a whole country came to this house because he wanted to go to the oil and he wanted to to pray before he went to the UN. >> Wow. >> At any rate, but anyways, he was here. He was right here in this house. >> Wow. That's Uran. Uranus says, "No, I got to speak my truth regard." >> And somebody asked me, "Am I going to delete it?" I said, "I'm not going to delete it." >> Beautiful. >> I'm not going to. And by the way, my maybe I'm I'm saying this wrong, but my Pisces, my fish, my sensitivity was hurt. all those people who unfollowed. Look, my my practicality tells me you you lose some people, you gain some people, but I do have a sensitive side. I feel bad. Someone unfollowed me. They must have felt hurt. I feel bad. I feel bad that that person was hurt. But at the other on the other hand, am I going to delete it? >> I'm not going to delete it. >> Right. Right. >> So understand that that dichotomy, that inner struggle, take it to the next level. The part of what's coming up is you taking that to the next level where you might feel, oh, I'm gonna, but I know I need to do the right thing. So, this is giving you that strength to take it to the next level. Yes. That's what I'm saying. These are all gifts. >> And if I know it's coming, I can lean into it and do it more. >> Yes. This is what Hashem, this is the thing. This is Hashem is setting this before me for me to have the courage and the ability to do this. [laughter and clears throat] >> Okay. So, you're going to give me an illustration. >> Yes. So, so Fav Malay, right? >> A Pluto illustration. So, he was a member of the parliament. Nobody took him seriously. He was an outsized personality. Nobody took him serious. >> Unconventional guy. >> Yes. He had a Pluto transiting his son. >> So Pluto is again intensity and death and transformation. Caterpill butterfly. That's when he got elected as president. This is a phase. This happens once in 60 years when Pluto cuz Pluto moves very slowly. So when it connects with your planets, it's once in 60 years. It happened for him at a time that his power emerged. He went from caterpillar to butterfly becoming one of the most powerful presidents of Argentina. He's changing the whole monetary system. He's unbelievable. You know, he loves Jews. He's he's amazing president, right? >> You're saying that happened at that point at the Pluto Pluto transfer that once in 60 years transit and that's how powerful it is. Mike Johnson is a speaker of the house. He was a one-term congressman. He also had the transiting Pluto on his son again once in 60 years. And he went from being a one-term congressman to become speaker of the house. One of the most powerful positions in the United States government. So Pluto is all about empowering and transforming who you are. It's like Yakov going to Yalt, becoming the foundation. So you have Pluto connecting to your Venus, to your sense of self value, what you're here to do, like just that part of you that believing that really fully believe having the courage and the ability to really step forth and do fully your mission. And again, >> that's good. >> Yeah. Yeah. No, it's incredibly powerful. >> When's that happening? >> That's happening 2031. Disseminating moon when you're sharing with the world. No, but all [laughter] of >> you have next year Uranus moon. Like trust me, that's enough to handle. That's another beautiful thing. >> Hashem gives you what you can handle at each time. >> Trust me, you don't want to deal everything at the same time. It's way too much. There's a process that's unfolding. Who we are is being released into the world. And the example I gave you of me when I first learned about astrology and then I had to meet an artist and then I had to write the book, you know, there's it all has to happen in it. >> It's right time. Yes. Exactly. and all of its different times >> and then oh and just we want to go to the bottom of the page of the solar arcs we have this the final thing and oh wow two things so first okay in the end of 2015 2016 your son changed into Leo from cancer so let let's look at that so there's two different things there's your birth chart that never changes your son is at 20 degrees of gemini that never changes there's something called a progress chart and we turn the dial on the chart forward and we see how you're progressing in life. And there's it's a concept of a day for a year. So every one degree for every year of your life, we move it forward one degree. And by the way, this is a huge concept in Judaism. First of all, even where it says it says for days and years in that PK. But you see by the moragum, it gets very specific because they did for 40 days. That's why the Torah says specifically a day for a year. For 40 years, they had to be in the desert. So it's very interesting that in astrology there's this formula that does like a day for a year, one degree for a year. So your son at when you were born was at 20 degrees of Gemini. As you went through your life, 10 years after that, it moved into cancer because it finished the final 10 degrees of Gemini. It became when >> 29.9 and then it goes >> Yes. Then it goes to cancer. So when you were roughly around 10 years old, your son went into cancer and it stayed there for 30 years in cancer, right? So can what's cancer? It's a nurturing. It's more behind the scenes. It's more introverted energy. And then it changed into Leo in 2016. So, you're always going to be a Gemini, but now there's an added thing of Leo. >> Leo's the king. >> Leo's the king. It's the fiery. It's the public. So, I have to tell you, I have the same thing cuz, right, we were born very similar. My son is also in Gemini. Very similar. So, for me, when I was 40 years old is when my son went from Cancer into Leo. Up until then, I never spoke publicly. I wouldn't even get up at a Shabasa's table to give advo. I almost had like social anxiety. I was not I was a very strong introvert. I wouldn't speak publicly. >> My son went into Leo. I started running retreats. I started giving classes and I started like and today I I'm happy to talk in front of thousands of people. I don't that's the Leo energy because cancer is more. So that's an added an additional energy that came into your life at that time to get you and it's going to be there for the next 30 years. >> Okay. So even though your sun is Gemini and you don't have you have your Mars in Leo. So you do have already that but now your progressed sun is also in Leo. So whatever's coming up the next couple of years you're really ready to take that to the next level to be that leader to be that courageous authentic self. Be true to who you are and take that to the next level. >> Okay that's incredibly powerful. >> And then one final thing. >> All right. We have again this is happening in 2032 the same time as you're disseminating moon. So not only are you going to have in 203031 transiting Neptune in the sky this inspiration connecting to your Mercury communication and thinking you're going to have once in a lifetime in a solar arc that's a different system moving it forward where Mercury is going to be connecting to your Neptune. So I'm seeing it in two separate systems. They can be happening they could have happened 40 years apart. They're happening within a year of each other at the time of your disseminating moon. So it's going to be incredible. >> Two things are happening. >> Neptune Mercury. So I was telling you how Neptune is inspiration. Mercury is your communication and thinking. I have that right. I have the transit of Mercury Neptune right now and I'm sharing with the world like I'm tapping into the collective. So you have that doubly. So at the same at the time of your disseminating moon. >> So just incredibly powerful. The message that you have is so inspirational and so like >> what what what should I do? How do I get ready for it? How do I >> just I always tell people two things. We have to work on our stuff to heal our any kind of inner >> and just be open like just open to the messages that Hashem sends us. Hashem always sends us the right messages exactly when I needed it. >> Always just to be open to it. That's it. We don't have to do anything more than that. Like I had no idea astrology. Hashem sent it to Yeah. Hashem or or I met an artist who told me I could be an artist. Right. That was something I need. It's not something I would have thought of myself. >> Hashem sent a messenger to me. So you just be receptive. >> Yes. just open and just know I want to be a a vehicle for Hashem. I want to be a vessel for Hashem. And just being open, that's it. Hashem always will fully set you. I always tell people, you don't have to figure out five steps ahead. Just know your one step, your next step, what you need to do. And at the next at the right time, Hashem will send you exactly what it is that you need. >> Tremendous. It's tremendous. very very informative and inspiring that I've yeah there's a lot to >> thank and this is all hashem laid out for us this is that's what I'm saying there's so much incredible amount and again this is a this is I I hit the big points there's a lot more all of this is there hashem laid it out why why did he do it for us to understand our lives to help us understand the process >> so we can serve hashem better understanding life >> is to to serve hashem so you're saying this >> if I I want to serve Hashem to the best of my ability, I need to know what I'm dealing with. I need to be aware of what what what what my potentials are and uh >> yeah, plan accordingly. [clears throat] >> When when I do a chart reading for people, there's there people then three stages. You know, the first stage is where they're completely stuck in your life. Like if things aren't working and you really don't have a sense of who you are. >> So that this information can give you hope. There's still a lot of work that you need to do in order to move there. But at least this can give you hope. Wow, I'm here to do like and usually when I tell people that like they have a very hard time believing it because they're so stuck in their lives, but it can be incredibly hopeful. >> My favorite ones are the ones in the middle ground where they know who they are. They know their skill sets, but they have these voices. Wait, I'm not good enough. Maybe I'm this. Who am I to do this? And if people have very strong Saturn, they can have these negative voice in their head. >> Saturn is the restriction. So it shuts things down. >> Yeah. So it tells you the naysayer, >> right? Because Saturn wants you to work hard. So it says you're not ready. You haven't studied enough. You're not ready. It uses that. It want it wants you to work hard but many times it keeps people back. And I show them I tell people you know you have when Hashem picked Moshenu I want you to leave right? He he told them three things. First he said who am I? What do you want from me? Who am I? Right? That's his Venus. He's not fully believing in himself. The next level is he's much better than me. And the third thing he says I have a speech impediment. I can't be the spokesman. This is Misha Raen, the greatest navi in the world says, I can't be the spokesman. I'm not good enough. I have these flaws. So people in this middle ground, I meet them all the time and they have all these voices in their head saying, I'm not. They know their skill sets. I'm not good enough. And I pointed them out to them. It's Saturn. Speak it out. Don't let it be a voice in your head. Bring it out. Understand. It's trying to help you, but it's keeping you back. Don't listen to it. It's the same advice that it gave Rabenu that it shouldn't be the leader. And I'm I'm and to me it blows my mind and I'm thrilled to pieces when people in this range they call me back a few weeks later. I quit my job. I started following my dreams. It's my happiest moment. You're doing what Hashem created you to do. It's not like I'm tell they know it. They feel it but they have these blocks that are keeping them, you know. So that's that middle ground. And then there are people who are already doing their dreams. They're doing and it's incredible validation for them. So to me the most powerful is that middle ground because that pushes them to the next level. >> That's it. So just and again such a gift from Hashem like it says bracious Rabba that it's here to help us grow. That's what astrology is a gift. It's a love letter from Hashem. >> Tremendous. Tremendous ve very it's it's a whole new world you know it's a Yeah. Very very good. Okay. Yeah. >> So uh kosherastro.com. >> Yes. Yes. And also it's available on Amazon and if you're overseas it's not it go to Amazon USA. They deliver all over the world. You can buy the book there. And if you want a chart reading, go to kosherastro.com. Also, I'm on Instagram. I'm Kosherastro. >> That's right. I tagged you on Instagram. >> Please tag me and collaborate with me. And also on YouTube, I have a YouTube channel, Kosher Astro, where you can see different podcasts, different conversations. >> Very good. Wow. As >> Hashem. Yes. >> Tremendous. Okay. All right. Thank you very much. >> It's my pleasure. Thank you so much. Thank you so much.