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The Evolution of Rosh Hashana from Tanach to Modern Times (part 2)
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okay so a short summary of what we did
uh last week we spoke about the
evolution of beginning of tanak starting
with the story in t describing as a day
of learning Torah reading Tor rejoicing
eating drinking sending to each other
and definitely there is nothing about K
doeses not mean that does not exist but
it was not mentioned and then we spoke
also about uh the origin
forar for for blowing thear and for the
with the trumpets and uh now we are on
page seven uh not seven page seven we
did page uh
eight page
eight page eight under the under the
title
of sh becomes what of
judgment so the first uh the first time
that we see it in sa kazal that we see
it in in Rabin liturgy it's uh really in
the second century it's around the
second century in the TOA uh regarding
the TOA I think we spoke about it once
that there are few opinions when exactly
this TOA was comprised was it at the
time of the mishna maybe some of it was
even prior to the mishna and some people
say it was after the mishna even in the
time of the amim at least in the first
first uh period of the amim which is
around the thirr century but it's not
here or there basically let call it the
second century so the says like
that everyone is being judged
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on so according to everyone at least T
says everyone is being judged on R which
by the way says what it's not only a
Jewish holiday it's a
Universal day it's a universal day
everyone everyone includes everyone and
your judgment is being signed and sealed
on yum kipur y Kip is not a day of
judgment it's a day of what of signing
okay it's a day
of that's according
to that's true I agree with that
everyone is Judge
and there's no deadline for the
signatures everyone is being signed
according to his deeds according to
God's calculation there's no one day of
signing on P you are being judged on the
Harvest what
is on the
trees on the
water whoa so that's the third opinion
and the third opinion agrees with RAB
the first T regarding that day for the
zardin
RAB a person is being judged every day
not only one day a
year laim and you will judge him or you
will take an account of him every
morning laim every day
now the problem with this mishna is that
we don't really have source for it yet
we have a m we have a dispute regarding
what is the day of signing there is also
a m between how many times you are being
judged so if I would oh very good okay
yeah it's even clean right so if I would
look at this at this TOA the TOA is
basically bringing
us
to yeah it's interesting you know what
maybe I'll I'll do it like that
RAB right RAB we
have
rabuda we have what I will
call stage number three and then we have
rabi
Yosi right so rabi mayor says so you
know what maybe I'll just put it like
that H why
not okay
okay hold
on TOA let's go one by one what
is everyone Universal okay do I need to
write in English or no day of judgment
for everyone the
kulam
Yip
is for everyone
okay for
everyone what about the other
things we don't know I'll put a question
mark I can only prove from things that
are written not from things that are not
written so I will put a question mark
what about
K what do you think RAB mayor will say
about everyday's
judgment we will probably going into
what did you say I'm sorry he said
that's no I'm talking about judgment so
judgment it seems to be that if I say
that it comes to tell me that this day
is a specific day of judgment what about
the other days seems to be not now it
might be that it's not for kulam not for
everyone but only for few people so I
will do a question mark and a maybe
which means it might
be no or it might be a maybe with
K every day is not for everyone it's
only for the people that God like or the
people that God islike okay whatever it
is but there is one day it's Universal
and the other days might be only for a
specific group okay Rud r is what he
agrees what is yip
it is a day for signing but not for
everyone okay we'll put it not for
everyone okay not for everyone so this
is interesting aha now so that's
interesting by the way how do they know
but let's that's that's a different
chart okay what about same thing okay I
will put the same thing and
maybe okay stage number three and I
called it stage number three for now it
might be
Ruda okay and he says
P which but mosha why
do why I do not fully agree with you
what do you
think why you don't agree I think you
should agree
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now okay very good what you said is very
logical very logical but it's also
illogical in terms of structure and
that's why I can't agree with you fully
what do I mean by that I will claim and
in a minute I will also prove it to you
you will see it lightly in the the TOA
but you will definitely see it in the
mishna later on um and that's why I gave
you a little bit of a background of
about the TOA was it written before the
mishna after the mishna as a commentary
to the mishna okay so those are the
three main
options we have a
structure
right you with me
says this is the way y this one and then
we have other things that R didn't talk
about now it made sense that why that
rabuda talks
about judgment so he will speak also
about the other things however I would
say that logically I would say how if it
was from the words of ofuda not saying
that it's not but if it was
100% I will structure
the says that
what that not everybody's on Yip so we
obviously we have a problem
here because it
says no the third stage I'm saying to
Moshe if the third stage was Ruda he
will have a what a
contradiction
okay yeah but what did he say before
everyone according to his time not only
young
people no no
no you can play with the TOA but not be
so creative okay okay so the stage
number three says what
so doesn't talk about
it right what do you say uh Na
okay
Yip no no
no here we do have sorry we do
have I
can okay
here yes for sure when according to
their time like you said that on R sh
there is now I don't know if stage
number three believes in this one or not
but he says that there are specific
times for General things like water food
and so forth they have set dates so yes
what about k no idea does not talk about
it
says so what
about also because it's it's another
day but it's a day so it's
true you know what isy
Clutch half truth because it's only a
day part of the 360 other four days of
the year that person is being judged
what does he think about y Kip no idea
no idea
no
idea
yes for sure okay now when I look at the
structure now I'm not talking about
meaning I'm talking about structure it
seems to be that there is something very
interesting that stage number three
agrees with RAB May on y kip but does
not say anything about R and the of
stage number three is about what
which by the way reminds us if we know a
little bit about we know one of the most
famous that
what right we have for that P for that
for that and this is sounds very one of
two things that might be the
original or that might be the copy and
there was some kind of a mistake in the
copy itself right when they copy and
paste though what might be a mistake
because stage number
three does not belong
here because if I'm asking regarding the
question between rabi May RAB Yuda and
RAB Yosi this stage number three has
nothing to say about only one thing that
onip it's everyone is signed okay I
heard it from RAB mayor already okay he
has nothing to tell me about R and he's
telling me nothing about all of that
about about the other things I don't
care this was not my issue at all and
rosi has something to say
Obviously now so that's the TOA remember
the TOA I will leave it here now take a
look at
thei the at the end of page of page
eight says like that e t Tani some
people
are uh listing it in the in the mishna k
k
everyone everyone is being judged
on
no that's what it says first
opinion don't get too
excited it's okay to have different
sources okay and this is the beauty of
it open your mind don't have don't
remember now anything from ganet
margarit okay or whatever her name was
okay leave it she quoted the regular
mishna but we are looking for the
sources so TOA you have three different
opinions regarding our question and in
thei one opinion says that we didn't
find it in the
TOA
that the day of judgment
and the day of the signing is on the
same day which
is now just as a side
note
Yip is a day of
what that's one component now don't
quote me that the Rabbi says we don't
need to fast obviously we okay it's
called it's it is Yum but is Yum Kip
what is Kip Kar it's a day of atonement
atonement is not
necessarily judgment even sometimes
contradicting judgment in order to
create atonement so therefore the first
opinion in the Yushi suggests that it's
all done
on the only now by the way it also makes
sense logically you know when a Court
gives his decision it it's not being
implemented
immediately there is time even if you
send someone to prison you don't send
him to prison today you put him in and
then he goes through a process and then
you put him in prison so it means it it
seems interesting there is a day of
judgment the judgment is there now you
have 10 days to what to repent and to
appeal and to try to change God's mind
and then you will what you will achieve
the atonement sounds pretty
good however there is another
opinion everyone is being judged on
and the Judgment itself the the signning
the signatures are being done for each
one of us
when oh so that's
obviously rabi mayor and rabi
mayor so that Accords with RAB mayor the
first opinion is not mentioned in the
TOA the second opinion in thei Accords
with rabi mayor with both
sh everyone is being judged on R sh and
also everyone is being signed when on
Yip if you turn to page nine there is
another opinion of thei what do you
think only two e t t and again there is
another opinion that listed in the the M
what everyone is being judged when
on according to their
time which Accords
with okay
now so that was
thei now take a
look at the
B and I made your life little easier and
I said to you already we are going to
meet five opinions
and take a look at the structure
the everyone is being judged
on got
it everyone is being judg
SOA is that part of
Ruda now on one
hand it
sounds that it should be like Ruda why
because don't look at the rest just look
rabi May rabi UDA rabi Yosi rabi Nat
meaning there is like a title for the
owner of that statement by that specific
Rabbi it's missing here but it also a
bit of a problem to say that this ofuda
why because it
says unless we take M's suggestion when
I
say what is now I'm going to list for
you what
everything that is under that list which
means so Adam according to Ruda he will
be signed
when which means Ruda and rabi may do
not disagree at
all at all for Adam for Adam for the
rest of it we don't know maybe RAB mayor
agrees with him he does didn't say
anything about it okay so we now we have
two options to understand Ruda we can
view him as what as a disputing opinion
regarding yum kipur or we are saying
that they both agree and the
only the only new thing ofuda is what is
about the other things
okay r
oh so
sorry for the
minut because we
have that says there are four times in
the year that the world is being judged
now we saw the
TOA we saw
thei now we see and we see
M now it's an interesting thing because
RAB
isma basically says what how did he
start when he composed
his he started like
that there are four times a year that
the world is being judged P
shot and then you
have P Harvest sh trees sukot water and
R is for the
four people and the day of
of will be what will be y
y okay
history
rishma was the bar pla of whom of R AKA
now we know we know this what we have
that RAB AKA was murdered around 135
okay he was tortured to death at the end
of the Bara Revolt RAB also was killed
at that
time we know for sure that rabi may
rabuda RAB Yosi RAB Natan all came
after becaming Scholars I'm not saying
that they were born after some of them
were RAB aka's students but they came
after after that statement of RAB
isma and despite of what RAB ishma says
and which by the way he didn't bring any
sources for it for now we'll see maybe a
little
later they decided that um maybe it's
not that
true
now look what I did to
you I took you to all those regarding
Yad and when EX
and to whom and and none of you stopped
me because you are very nice and say
Rabbi where is the
source that this is what a y the Torah
called it what
Y and we saw that they use the tra for
what gather the
people go to war or to
celebrate and here
there is something very interesting we
went through some kind of a time period
and from a day of NE we are talking
about what
M according to everyone even including
to rabi it's not a special day but it's
a day of all the other days or raban in
our
Gar so the fact that no one else bring a
source for it what what can we learn
from it you don't need to have any
background in anything well if I would
ask
you the statement is that sh is a day of
judgment and no one brings any sources
to it what does that
mean what it might be the okay good what
else everybody accepts everybody accepts
it okay
okay that's a day of of giving
a okay
okay that developed at a later time
but it's already in the time ofish right
after after
theban
okay I think you said
something okay let me collect everything
you said
yes yeah but that's a day of atonement
you take the two he goes and you send
one to aaz one to AEM and to bring the
the atonement for the Jewish people but
they didn't speak about
R okay
now someone here says after
theban I spoke about it few times I
don't know if here or different places
one Shabbat I definitely spoke oh I
spoke one Shabbat and one Shabbat about
P
any one of the major challenges for
kazal was how to
reframe theim after the destruction of
the bet mikdash that took place when 70
okay
70c what do you
do especially with Kim that were heavily
invested with bet
mikdash yum Kip let's just take y Kip
because that's the easiest thing what
was
the essence of the day of
yipu what did we do we fasted
but the entire day is about the it's all
about him you
learn it's all about that it's not about
kid it's not about it's not about MF
it's not about the the
last it's all about the
of and basically after the was done and
if that little thread turned into
white celebration
okay I don't think that they sang sh
because they were there but the idea is
is that there was a
celebration so what do you do when you
don't have Yip anymore so you take
this and you basically bring it into
what
into and then into and then you need to
what to create something for the people
to do because at the time of inash what
did people do they stood they stood and
they look
they were terrified obviously because
until you see that thing change you are
a little unhappy okay and just think
about the the ceremony the till he goes
and you take the lottery with the gold
and you see the Coen Gad dressed with
white and he goes to the m he comes back
for the mik he goes to the m he comes
back for the mik okay and everyone is
looking and everyone is excited and many
people already came what for
sukot it's not like
today people came already
so they are all
anxious but that's gone so you need to
create that uh type of a day and you
need to create uniqueness to the day
this is a day that has five
times fot according to by the way
every but
basically no no no it means that if you
didn't D in one you can't really D in
that's according to that's thing but the
idea is is what that you need to have
five times daving which by the way this
is why Islam davens five times we do it
once a year because that's St the
holiest day so they will do it every day
to show that they are holier than thou
so now you got it now if you didn't
learn anything today not to not mishna
now you know why our Muslim brothers are
ding five times okay cousins um so the
thing is is what is that idea is that
now you need to fill up the day with
content and you need to create this uh
kind of what of of of involvement with
the day you can't tell people okay the
only thing that it says in the Torah you
need to fast or stay home fast and then
that's it so we develop it so that's
what we do take a look at
r
r according to the Torah you need to
bring a
sacrifice there
is which
is vague we have that you need to eat
and to drink and to be
happy it does not mean that it was never
yadin it might have been Yom a day of
judgment why and we will see not not not
this week probably uh next week but one
of the ideas is that that was the day of
creation Now the the problem with the
day of creation is that the same day
that man was created he also
what
sinned okay and he was
judged so therefore it it's not that
farfetched to say what the that
became the day of judgment and for whom
for everyone because Adam was not Jewish
okay Adam was a universal human being he
was what we call Humanity today so
therefore it is not that farfetch to say
that R was always Yad however the Torah
did not say it is Yad why many different
reasons a so you will not think that
what that the other days are what are
not days of judgment whatsoever and you
can do whatever you want that might be
one option second option is that that
was not the
essence of the
day which means for
example
um
P we
have we have on the first night not
talking about the rest of the only
according to the there is a but okay
there
is and there is on the first night
right you know many people make a big
big deal do you eat a sh or you don't
eatat matah let's say you didn't did you
miss anything from the essence of the
day I guess today it depends who you ask
but truly no truly
no
y on when the BET mikdash
stood the de component of the component
of this
judgment was not as strong and Not only
was not as strong it was was I don't
want to say it was secondary but it was
not what defined the day mamash so what
did you do during the time of of the
tanak I don't know maybe you have what
said and that's maybe also why says to
them don't be sad you remember don't cry
don't be sad because when you hear this
is the day of judgment you get terrified
so therefore he says no no don't worry
it's a day of the Judgment it's true but
if you will do the right things you'll
be fine
so
now after the betam mikdash is
destroyed how do we celebrate R there's
noban so what do you do you take two
components that were not
that uh so main a part of rash they were
always there and you magnify them and
what are these two chaar and
and you obviously create connections
between them so it might be that it was
always there but it was
sleeping and there was an
Awakening after the beta mdash is
destroyed so now have that in mind let's
see another Yi talking
about the chaar
says the question the following the
following
question how do we know that when we
create the first is what
is which means what simple no no just
simple what
isar like a simple sound of thear
and how do we know that there is a at
the end which is also simple
clear again the
word like a is to transfer but here it's
not to transfer it's just to create a a
voice that is
simple until here this is the theot of
the Y of the
jubile
for so basically
the Yushi is
saying we know
about one time that they blew the chaar
in Torah
where
say and when is
the on
Yip so how would we know anything about
R so
thei is basically says because it says
we don't need to
say we should
say which will
be on Yip on the seventh month what is
says whatever you have on the 10th day
of the seventh month you also should
apply it when on the first day of the
seventh month
pretty
good you are with me meaning on R it
says
Y and I need to know how do I blow the
Chau on R and I don't have any Source
but I do have twice that we blow the
chaar when it's really once it's you and
it's onip and there I have a li I have a
way to learn that what that you
have
and a simple sound before and a simple
sound after and in the middle I have
AA so what is
my uh so what do I do on R answer is I
need to learn it
from
Yip which has the but
why the connection ises
sounds
interesting and how do we know that is
what that you need to do it three times
I will just put it like
that do you see what the rabbis are
doing with the it's really unbel it's
incredible it says
so it
says it means what that I need to create
three times
of but we know that what that it's not
we
have I got to you all confused try to
say a few times you know quickly you'll
see what happens so it's really it's an
incredible thing we learned this entire
thing that we do on R and people get
crazy Rabbi I didn't hear it Rabbi I'm
not sure I hear I heard it Rabbi I just
went to look at my baby and I I heard
only half you know what should I
do basically we all learn it from from
different which are really very very
creativea this is all the opinion of RAB
AKA if we have an opinion of Raba we
obiously have an opinion of whom RAB
isma his is
colleag so also has an opinion and he
says
what you remember all the that they will
blow
the trumpets we are talking about chfar
and he's bringing what proofs from
trumpets okay
so therefore R isma says how do I know
the three times it's not
from but rather
from and what was the last one whatever
it
was
to
okay let's pause here for a second let's
digress
Rish and R are trying to find out
what what are they trying to find out
right answer the right answer for what
question why do
we why do we blow the chofar a why do we
blow the chauffeur in such a way of the
three times and why do we blow a in a
way that is
so basically they are trying to find
reasons for what for everything we
mentioned before but the question is are
they trying to find reasons for
something that was quote unquote
invented then or it was already there
but it was not the main thing of so no
one paid too much attention but after
you don't have a bet mdash and that's
become the essence of the day you ask
yourself Rea one second where is that
coming from what are the sources now in
addition I don't know if I brought it
here or
not
the how do we fulfill
T uhuh is that make sense to you the
Torah says TOA the Torah did not
sayar ah different
minhag so in we did only and in we
did H
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interesting okay so the tal
says R instituted in cesiah
Cesar that's where
thei was composed Yi was not composed in
okayi was composed mostly in
quesaria and he instituted to do
what that's what we do with the first uh
set so why would he do
that the RO says M exactly like
you all of them are good it's just the
rambam says no
way because then you tell me that what
that they didn't know what the Tor says
to but he says there was basically a
misunderstanding of what it was and
therefore RAB AB United both
interpretations to tell you that that's
the way you fulfill the T in the T now
what do they
represent the sharim
are size
like to sigh and this is like a broken
sigh o and the is more of what of an
uncontrol controllable
cry uncontrollable
cry and
basically
the is both now as a side
note do you know how much H discussion
we have
of how to blow the
tashat should
you make them one without
any break at all not even to take
aishima which means it should go like
that or you can take a break one of the
Rama reasoning of not doing that he says
did you hear hear anyone cry like
that without taking a breath says I
never heard about it that's
the most of theim say
what that you need to do it that's why
what we do the first 30 we do
it the other 70 we tell him you can take
a little a little break so you see how
many
discussions we have from what from
something that we didn't understand at
the
beginning
so one more one more
Source the page
10 so it
says you see the Jubilee and R are
compared for what for the same way that
you are to and for the
blessings so the only difference is in
what is the material of thear where do
you take that CH form but in terms of
the and the it's the same
thing if that's true
um we have something very
interesting we always view the chauffer
blowing is something to what to wake us
up right to wake us up not talking about
from the rabbi speech I'm talking about
just wake up so and about what it
reminds us of and it reminds us
of and
all but in a way in this Source the main
idea of chaar is
what proclamation of
Freedom think about it
it's a proclamation of Freedom this is
the Jubilee you Proclaim Freedom
by in a way maybe the most meaningful
reason for blowing the chaar is that you
can free
yourself when you repent you fully free
yourself so it's a totally
different meaning to shaar it's not
about being terrified it's about
being
happy which brings you to
NE
okay
now we are doing an additional
part it's under
the the title
of why do we need a special day of
judgment what rosi for example says that
a person is being judged every day
sounds eight true and be practical I
mean especially if we believe that you
know every every night we deposit our n
at God's hands and he gives his so
obviously he's going to judge us so take
a
look
in it
says there are four times during the
year that the world is being
judge okay we're not going to discuss um
that right now but it seems to be that
the reason for to be a day of judgment
is because everything else has a special
day for judgment p
on the trees sukot for water and
therefore human beings are being judged
also in a special day so in a way the
idea of a special day is because
everyone else has a special day
okay why rabi says that the person is
being judged every day so the gamar says
what do you
mean he says that you should judge him
to every every B every
morning why didn't say that what that
person is being judged every
hour so the G
says so the gar says oh I'll tell you
why because maybe there is a difference
between and
is just like an
overview is much more than that but
says it's not true why
because it's the same thing so turn to
page 11 so in page 11 it
says Second
Source the reason for rosi is from that
Source from
this PUK basically says what the word
Mish Mish judgment therefore it
says
day so that's what rosi
says now according to that and with that
we will
conclude it seems to be that according
to RAB
Yosi who is being judged every day
Amo his
Nation humanity is being judged
when on
R
now contrary to our belief that to be
judged is a bad thing
RAB Yosi fully believed that what that
being judge is a great thing why because
you you give a report every day so every
day you have a chance to what to improve
yourself to be a better person you don't
need to wait for a year you can do it
every day for Humanity you wait what
once a year so we will continue B next
week please hold on to your uh the Pim
to your
soci the
what so according to rosi the question
should be okay so why on R we need to be
judged again okay if we do it every day
what's the uniqueness of according to RI
we'll continue next week
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