The Dramatic Story of the Ba'al Koreh Who Didn't Read a Kri Ksiv Mishna Berura DH 141:8, 142:1

Okay, good morning friends. We are continuing in Mishna sim alif any word which is read and written. It is that it should be written the way it is in the ven and read differently. There's a story. Now, I don't know many stories in the was not a story book if you didn't get that point by now. But I don't think he says many stories, but here's one. There's a story by someone who read the way it's written before the Who were they? I think it was from the I think there's a vali they warned him. He didn't listen to these great rabbis. They put him in and they removed him from the It's interesting that of all the things in the the one that is substantiated by a story is the guy who had the audacity to read as it's written. You know, I guess the greatest here here's my uh you know, knee-jerk reaction to this. The we know as we mentioned many times whenever we're dealing with the safer Tyra, we're always very sensitive that people don't just accept the written law and reject the oral law. And one of the the greatest areas of sensitivity is what we call creek civ because this is what it says and we're saying no, we're not reading what it says. We're reading the so this is this is the very point this is you know the the point of contention if you want to know where is the spot where is the spot that you could really test your loyalty to the even even in the face of I would say it has to be creek civ because here you're you're reading it in the safer tora the safer is in front of you say no no no no not what it says but Hashem told Misha. So that's why this they had to put the guy in and they had to remove him and that's why the it wasn't enough just to say don't do this you know he's giving you the drama here you know of the importance of this anyway the tradition that we accepted to read we don't follow the is am lameus. The ka is amikra. I think there are different ways in the rishim how to interpret the words. The way the mish is interpreting it that in other words we read it we don't follow the which is called now the razakasha how are you allowed to do creek buter licroice au you know how to read something if it's not if it doesn't say it and here it says it says uh and and and you read it a different word I mean this week's para is full of creek sves I believe you know there a lot of stuff going on with the creek but the is even though ordinarily it's licro This you are allowed to read here's an interesting thing to oh this is very interesting. Okay, first of all, this week's para, what if wax drips on a on a word? So then you can't read that sorra because now you're reading it. But what if wax drips on a word that's a creek? So you're not reading it anyway. So the dish brings from the shi that wax that dripped on the word. So the primma says not a problem because we read about says that's only on shabas that sha but even the primagadim is that you still need to look at the word that's written the ka of the primagadim that you that if wax drips on you it only because it's shabas and you can't remove it. Ra Mosha disagrees entirely. He says if wax drips on a letter even on Shabas, you have to take out another safer. That's the ofreek is you still need to look at the word that's written in the safer. Okay. only the middle of the word. >> You're saying it's only true. >> It says on the word. It says on the word. You're saying only the two letters are creeks. You're saying the den of creeks is only on the letters. Okay. I didn't think about that. I'm not sure. Maybe, maybe you're right. Maybe. I want to bring something very important to your attention. What about the name of Hashem? It's written, but you don't read it that way. Is that a creek civ? Is that a creek civ? The Rambam has a suffic whether know we know the is that if somebody curses the name of Hashem you need to curse the shame with one of the but what if you don't curse the shame what if instead you curse the shame adnos does that work so the briskar says that the suffic of The Rambam is how do you look at the shame havaya written in the safer Tory is it a creek civ and therefore the shame adnos is a totally different word or no and this is the conclusion that there we don't even though we're discussing civ the name of hashem is not a civ the way to read the words yud and then hey and then v and hey is it's read alf in other words it's not Creek. It's our tradition that that's what those letters are saying. Okay. And the conclusion is it is not a creek. The shame the way it's venos. It's not a creek civ. >> So you have to look inside when you you have to look at the at the letters you came up. >> Oh you for sure. Even we're learning now you even need to do it by a creek civ, right? even my Greek said but yeah you you would it would absolutely be ma in other words it would be ma to say hashem's name not from inside now um also he brings in the sharafim that even though you're the creek civ you're reading about as haka bash. However, the perush on the Sharia says the mak is from the shame havaya which definitely you need to be looking in the safer which the briskarov would say that's not you can't bring a raya from the shame havaya because shava is not a creek civ. Okay. The Duru brings a lot of material on how to pronounce the word sin sin. And although there theam held in his parish the first time you pronounce it to show that's his name and after that the says you should say every time. The Mosha says he brings to the Msaras Mosha not like the Mashai that you should read it the first time with two sins. Usually the Mashai is the final word on word pronunciation. Okay, we're going to begin. Let's say somebody read and made a mistake. And what do you do in a place where nobody knows how to read accurately? Says if the if the read and he made a mistake even in being accurate in one letter, he has to go back. What does that mean? Let's say he missed or added one letter. Now by the way the and the understand that the that the holds that even if it's you have to go back. So let's say somebody says um let's say somebody says Ain what happened to the H. So according to you have to go back. What do you mean? We know who the guy is. We know who he is. When he went into the store to get a cup of coffee they called him. So they didn't say the hey according to according to the rama the seems to hold that the holds there's what does the hold but there are those who grip the would be even the What does it mean? Says that you should read it accurately. That means even if you already finished the par, you'd have to go back. Even if you already made a you have to go back and say no, the name is even though the guy already made the or let's say the guy says, okay, it's nice. His name is Yankeef, but there's no nun in the name. So the fact that init they've been, you know, saying a nun, that's very nice. Good for them. But now we have to lame the Torah. So even though we already made a and we put it in the we take it back according to we take it out and we read it again. We have to go. You have to read from there and on to the end. You have to read that P until the end of the para and then another three for the new aliyah. Okay. So what do you do with various? Let's see what the dish brings. The stifler said for sure. you're for sure. You're for sure. Which means you can't put up a guy if he's not your So, you want to know which show should I d in? Let's say I'm I'm not ai or I'm notes and I could go to uh my or a different you should not go to a different but whether whether and also says that they are not considered a different language. However, the brisk hold held it is considered a different language. I believe Pesak Frank also held that way that it also is considered a different language. So it would not be okay even. So let's say you have a bar mitzvah boy and he he grew up in a school where they do you know and what do you do? I don't know. I don't envy that rabbi. That's not you know what are you gonna do in that case or what what you know let's say you have aid and you're the kids being mitzvah what do you do I guess you rely on that I would say but the you should try to hear it in your own okay have a good day but don't go anywhere