The Deep Understanding Of the story of Hey Teves, Part 1 Rabbi Yossi Paltiel

this week is hey davis hamisha betavis [Music] and [Music] we're going to forget about hey davis i must tell you that this is a very open forum a lot of people will watch this video many more than will visit my website and listen to my audio classes so there's a bit of hesitation [Music] as to what i'm about to do but we thought it over and we decided for various reasons particularly because it's become very clear to us that the favorite feature of the classes that we give are the fabregans and the stories that we should tell the story and fabrega about hey davis not notwithstanding that the story is really a painful story in other words from a perspective of hasidim it's a it's a celebration it's a yomtif and so on and so forth and we're so happy and we're so excited and so on but to the rabbi and the rabbits to to whom this entire story was very personal very deep it was a very very painfully blebanish i heard i can't confirm i heard that that ebberson said to somebody who told her good yomtif we don't see it as a yomtif in other words but for we we mean that ben de rabbitson it's a very bittersweet event because the story of hey davis or hamisha potatoes involves the people closest to the rabbit and ebberson literally and more importantly closest to the free decade but the previous rabbi and of course today ben and everton this is the rebbe and anybody that's close to the deba is very important and very valued and appreciated and respected and honored and this terribly painful i don't know what word to use misunderstanding unavoidable tragedy is is a part of of of what has transpired during his tenure as a leader and it didn't give the rebel it was one of the things that ebb and everton needed to do when the event finally unfolded they did what they needed to do but it's a very painful story it's not an easy yomtif it is a yum tif it's a big yum dip it's a serious yum tiff it's a deep yum and a meaning for yamdev but the story the episode what led to this yamtiv is painful and as i mentioned after some discussions and thought we're going to tell the story the story begins with defeating stalkers the felix ever passed away and he left no will there's no tavo there's no written will from the previous which is really quite out of character anybody who knows anything about the previous 11 knows how incredibly organized he was and how much he wrote he wrote perhaps more than almost any debate and yet he didn't leave a will and if he did as far as we know that will is lost and we know from the previous remainder which was contended but the previous ever left no will and because he left no will he didn't make clear about succession he didn't explicitly write on a piece of paper who would succeed him we know a story which i've shared with you on a number of occasions but the previous had actually promised that his mother the rabbi's parents that the rebel would succeed the previous river and the story was known in the house in other words when the rabbits in hana came to the previous rabbi's home in rostov i guess in pedal in 1924 the family members knew of this exchange it was not a secret that was well known because absalom gerrari who was a benbayas knew the story from the time that it occurred the prime lieberman repeated the story and he wasn't home at that time so it was not a secret that the rebbe's mother had come to the previous rebbe and asked for a dowry which the previous episode he couldn't afford and then she said i don't mean money i mean i promise for succession and the previous labor agreed and she asked for it in writing which the previous episode wouldn't give her and there are two versions as to what the rebbe said in response to that refusal to put it in writing in in the safer behold base inemanu which is a biography of rabzamingari it says that the previous rebbe said by unza vartas if i give you my word my word is is real and the prime liberman is quoted to having said before he passed away that the previous rabbis said will understand themselves so you're looking for evidence there was evidence fact of the matter was there was no written suffer and we all know that there were two brothers in law two sons and lord and unfortunately there was the idea of splitting labavich or sharing the database of it now at a certain point that ebba had to make a decision and on some level what i'm about to say is my opinion but i think that this is very easily verified verifiable in other words it's not just my opinion it's evidenced for this effect the rebbe was convinced this is what wanted hasidim wanted him to be there and a rebbe is made by hasidim i know for a fact that ever told others and hasidim wanted rabbit to be so he reluctantly acquiesced he became a rebel and in this case hasidim made it very very clear absolutely clear that he wanted the rabbit to be the nazi of habad and although the sensitivity of the rebel and the rabbits and then they were incredibly sensitive would have wished that it would not have created the ill feelings and effect that it caused i suppose that ever felt he had no choice he had to accept and become the nazi of which of course he did a on youtube pretty early on in the episode cs pretty or maybe very early on that ebb is brought in and he completely dedicated himself to the river by the time the rashad passed away he probably sacrificed more of himself to the rabbit than any cross of the life and you know zach ultimate dedication was to the highest level of mercedes-benz the rebbe honored that mercedes nefish when he passed away had obviously went to his lafayette and participated in the shiva and went to the common samataya that ever honored rashad unbelievably because the rashad from the almost from the very very beginning of the episode became the manchester um and that's was a very difficult thing for him to do with the fact of the matter is that he did it and he did it in a quite public way but let me sort of speak get you a little bit behind the scenes there is a story which is true i know my sources but i can't reveal them and watch me get lamb basted on the website about you know about hasidic stories and facts okay just relax okay this is a true story that the rebbe was asked about a particular person who was very close to the previous rabbit and he worked with the previous rabbit who was responsible for certain moistus that carried the previous debbie's name when the rabbit became how he intended to deal with that individual and that response which means first i'm taking everything away and then i'm going to give everything back what this means in the broader scheme is this when the became he didn't want to there but there's no question about that he was a reluctant ascender to the throne of lobavich this is the story which is printed in the yemenis which are the stories that actually happened which is very remarkable that i've been growing from melbourne related that he met her daughter of yeshiva in berlin who had been friday nights with him on friday night in the summer of 1950 and hutner asked him what's going on in the barrage so he told rabbi groener that he see them one day was called then but the ramash is reluctant he doesn't want sabbah says don't worry he'll take the position he'll become so rabbi groener said on what basis why do you think he'll take the position she told the most incredible story that friday night you would spot your father passed away 10 minutes late in the morning the night before friday night and the middle of learning did never stopped and i'm sure these people didn't sit around and speak suddenly stopped learning and told him the following story that there was once a descendant of the nikla a grandson who was destined to be arab and he didn't want he very much didn't want and the qasidam pressured him and pressured him and pressured him until eventually he had no choice and he ascended to the throne of khabad this was a story that rabbit told rabbit the night before the previous ever passed away says rabbit groaner based on the fact that he was told the story before the previous episode even passed away that the rebel will become the nazi of but once with the big student he asked him how he wants to ha kabal sanasi is to be in other words debbie was finally becoming tough shin yodaf 1951 and he asked how he wishes the occasion of his ascent to the throne of allah babish to be and the devil said i wanted to be in every newspaper in other words i stood is a person of student because you live in a world of and if he was going to be the rabbi he wasn't going to do it hesitantly and basically we didn't do it with the whole strength of israel and a part of that was taking over maestas khabad and the rebel insisted that anybody who worked for the previous level who was responsible for almighty and of course moistures involve bank accounts and finances and and property and so on have to give it to the rubber they they will retain that position but it's going to have to be transferred there's a new nossy and there's a new beginning you stop and you start and make sure that every moist about in the world should be his and we know of stories where certain maesters resisted and went to the nether he insisted that any mason that carries the name lubavitch and is under the awesomeness of the previous rabbi has to be his once it was clear that he is the nasty of the mighty masjid he gave the leaders of these mightiest incredible autonomy but they were his the one mighty that the rabbit didn't fight for and never became a balabayas over was the building in which he lived 770 eastern parkway and the library the previous level which never became that ebb is officially because of this very very tragic misunderstanding in the family and the rebels was going to do nothing that would in any way shape or form embarrass the rabbits in the medina the previous labyrinth and the family and that's how it stayed it's and the building in which he lived was technically not his the library which was in the basement 770 was technically not his and when you think about what transpired during that business he is it it it really is disturbing the rebbe printed the samakhv from saviat maetik from a copyists from a a text of uh of a copyist he didn't have the original manuscript he didn't have the governor kedesh where do you think the original manuscript of the salman above was when the ever printed islamic in 1971. you know where it was it was in 770 eastern park on the second floor the rabbit didn't have access now he could have had access if he wanted to ask but the rabbit felt he's the nurse of chabad and if he's the nasty of khabad this is his an inheritance and if he is going to have to ask somebody else for what is rightfully his that means he's conceding that it isn't his then he's in effect stating that he's not the nazi of he wasn't going to do that so if they were not going to give it to him as he felt it was rightfully his be russia he did it almighty was only years later that they were able to compare the islam which they had from almighty the disorder which was sitting so far out of the rebels reach 770 on the second floor it's it's really painful and strange and to be honest many lubavitch has didn't realize how painful it was because that abandoned habits and did everything in their power this should be completely secret nobody knew of it it was not discussed and this is how people lived does it ever lived now you go 15 years later tough shin meme 1985. you're talking about 35 years after the period passes away and uh someone was taking this funding from the previous day of his library now here's the interesting thing the previous episodes library was managed by prime libra who was by now an old man he wasn't physically able he wasn't financially able to manage the library the library was in the basement of 770 and all kinds of terrible things were happening down there there were leaks that were not repaired then books were damaged all kinds of things were happening to the library and he was really not capable of managing the library himself so we asked for help who do you think he asked for help he asked that hasidim for help and the rebels helped him in fact during the trial those receipts were brought into court and showed that khabad the rebel and the rebels people had been managing the library for years before this forum were taken which means to say that there was a clear understanding that there was a responsibility underneath towards the library and they they did all kinds of things they fixed the broken pipes they put in systems to keep the air fresh to preserve the books and all kinds of things were done you know the pushka the push get upstairs in 770 raises a lot of money and in those days it raised probably even more money that money was used first of all to rebuild the second floor the upstairs of 770. and beyond that it was used to repair the previous levers library you're talking now 1979 81 way before this photo were taken so the idea that this library belonged to the previous rabbi had nothing to do with it was simply ludicrous by the simple fact that that ebb's people were looking after this library for years before this photo were taken in the first place the point is however that the people were involved in the library which meant to say that certain lebanese would frequent the previous ebbs library and apparently there was one closet where the very precious books were kept the books that are worth thousands of dollars of volume and they noticed that the books were being thinned they were books disappearing he didn't take a whole shelf he took one from here one from there he wanted to make it not so conspicuous he would come to visit his mother he had access it was the previous of his grandson he would go down to the basement and he would take a collection of books put them in a brown paper bag and leave he did this over a course of several months once it was noticed that swatima disappearing very expensive spharma disappearing the rabbit was informed they put in close circuit monitoring systems and they they caught them they caught him on film taking the books and of course when it came to trial one of the issues that was raised is if you think these books are yours where you're stealing them like a thief in the night go to court and fight it out so immediately they put up gates they deprived them of access and he started selling books and he did everything legal everything kosher and the books are praised rabbi bergamosky has a modern decanes associated with that appraisal because he knew a person who knew a person who knew the appraiser which allowed us to find out the names of every single safe are taken which allowed us to keep track of what had been sold what had already been retrieved and what was still to be retrieved because i think about 400 safari were taken they sold i don't know how many assaults 70s slaughter or something of that effect i i don't know their numbers exactly but something to that effect and by the fact that that this inventory had been made that there was a list of all the swarm that he had taken allowed to retrieve these farms i'm going to explain later on and of course there was negotiations going on behind the scenes the first negotiation was let's see if we can talk and figure this out um from what i understand it was quite clear that there was nobody to talk to that this was no longer an issue of money with an issue of pride i mean and it became principle from his end the principles they're mine i'm the grandson of the previously i'm entitled to them why should i not take them and from the rabbit's perspective as i'm going to explain later on these are this form of and as long as it ever lives and the devil lives on the svadam are his and he can't take books that don't belong to you at a certain point and i believe it may have been after you based thomas a lawyer was consulted and the lawyer said that the first thing needs to be done is to put a lien on the books because he was selling svadham and it was really causing the deb and the debits and an enormous amount of pain and a lien was put on the spot and they were put away in a vault someplace in new jersey and the majority of this fundament not yet been sold i don't know a few dozen swat and were sold maybe again i don't know the exact number 60 or 70s flooding had been sold and it was a great relief to that ebb rabbits and to know that at least they were not selling any more of this for them but it gave barry the excuse he was looking for they went to court we got lawyers he says we started in court we're going to finish in court i i think he understood that he would never win a dinter and but on the other hand he he has to go to a dentatus so he was able to spin it that since had no choice but to put the lien on this forum through the legal system because the bottom line is there was no other way to stop him from selling this for him and allah that was allowed so as he put it we started in court we're going to finish in court that's how we ended up in court now the story is that the rabbit called a meeting one week before you miss thomas it was sunday dalai to hate thomas that year gimbal thomas was shabbos 1985 uh sunday was dale thomas sunday night hey thomas for me this is a very very meaningful date because we heard about this meeting and that night when the meeting was taking place we were on an airplane going on to california to yeshiva we left mamish the night that this whole pasha began and that ebba called together two groups of people of course this was the the spitzhabad the leaders of the the first group people were elderly who were registered on the charter of goddess rashid people like aberchadokov ravi mendel ravi mentalic rabbi katz alayama shalom ravi zaman gharari i'm probably missing a name or two but this has to show no intent and then of course younger people robert krinsky rabbi schemte and others and um he talked to him about a good so let me step back is an organization that was founded in the 1920s i think 1924. and there's a story that i must tell you because i think the story is really really special and i think most people miss it what happened in 1924 that a good in america was founded which means that this year is their 90th birthday the year he says 1924 now it's 2013 we're about to enter into 2014 the tough pay dollar to tough shinayan doubt what happened that year of course the answer is that the previous rebbe wrote a letter and he found that a good but there was something more that people need to know and i think this is very remarkable there was a most wonderful hosset a truly truly remarkable closet i heard a young man told me once he was the first modern his name was israel's from the old school but he was a descendant of the rebellion of the middle arab his father died when he was a young boy and his mother remarried to a nan lababacher kutarid but she understood that her late husband would have wanted her sons to get the chabad since they were bad children and descendants so she had incredible mercedes nefesh and she took her son from israel to lebarj you're talking in the turn of the last century 19 what oh eight or nine something to that effect maybe a little bit later maybe 19 10 or 11 or 12. and it was an incredible cost and uh unstranglish exertion but she felt this was the right thing to do and she brought her sons alexandra and she deposited him there and he grew up he was a member of the family he was very very loved by that episode and so on and he always was on the border between khasid and family member he was really a husset and he revered the rebbe and the rebbe's family in such a way that the fact that he was a cousin never got his head he never in any way diminished his hasidic sense anyway the end of the story was he spent years in lebanon she was atomium and he was there during the revolution and on into later years in the early 20s the previous head was already i think the previous app was already there he traveled back to alex's role and his biography was published chambered his grandson published his biography and it's a wonderful savior about a wonderful classic and um he had incredible miracles and his return to at israel there was shooting and there was a storm and he told the people that they will all survive guaranteed because he had which is in fact what occurred he came back that suddenly got married and after he got married he bought i think a printing press he wanted the business panas and he wrote the previous rebel letter that he got married and that he wants to go into business that means you're a soldier in the army of muhammad then you must do something he was a newly married younger man sold the printing press he just purchased and used the money to travel the globe he was in south africa he was in australia he was in america in the early 20s he was so ahead of his time it's indescribable he came to places where the level of yiddishkeit was more primitive than primitive and wherever he went he left an incredible mark he was such a personality he was such a hasidis such a personality and such a capable public servant he just got things done i mean he how this person did things where he got the money from and how he functioned is beyond their understanding but it was just an amazing ask one of the stories that written in his biography was he came back to israel a two and a half year old daughter we had never seen a two and a half year old he'd never seen her and his wife takes him to the playground okay identify which is yours and he identified her anyway he was in new york in nineteen twenty four that's the story as alex london was in america and he had the idea this is a foresight of a very special tifa hasid have to organize themselves and he he's on the first charter he saw his name is on that original he was in israeli khasid from russia israel new york who encouraged anasha and new york to establish a good the father of the kramers was involved originally i think a yid named lakshmi was involved originally at this point rabbi rosenblatt ruslan was long gone but i think at that point and that's why a good sake of started because one person who was never even officially made a but he he was motivated by a letter that has ever wrote to him you learned got to do something he literally traversed the globe at an age which was very difficult to do and it was obviously wasn't flying it was a very very difficult and exhausting undertaking and were and he he was miyazada good in america and for the next 16 years until the previous ever arrived in new york that was the official branch of labach in america and they did very very good work um of course the biggest things they did was they raised money and they brought attention to the previous debit the american lobovich was very very important in saving the previous debit when he was arrested by stalin and in 1927 and then of course bringing the rabbit to america and saving his life from the nazis so a good idea was the official arm of lubavitch in america and he did incredible things rabbi you saw jacobson is probably the most familiar name who was heavily involved in abu dhabi there were others of he used to raise money from my mid and there was a chabad bulletin they used to have fabregas and all kinds of events obviously to the extent possible or to the extent that it was in those years but nevertheless is the official legal with all the necessary registrations representation of lubavitch in america when the previous labor came to america he became a goddess in other words the charter was there the idea existed but the rebel now became the voice of lavish the head of the center of so the leadership of not that disappeared it became whatever it ever wants the previous rabbit was very very careful when he arrived in new york and if you read the transcript of the trial you see how important this turned out to be to make everything kosher every organization that the previous never made had to be legal to be registered it had to be i don't know what it was trademarked they had to have its own tax number he wanted everything to be kosher on the up and up and he put officers on each one of these moistures and he wanted it to be very very recognized officially in america everything has to be done officially and legally he wanted everything to be kosher and of course one of those organizations in addition of course to merkaz and the others now practically speaking a good fell into dysfunction because there ever was a good instead they previously made new moistures and they became so to speak the forward presence of the most important moisture i don't think there's even a question about it is which means the the branch of lubavitch which is about outreach and i might as well mention this now when you talk about laboratory outreach notice the word education lab stands for children education above all else and americans became the the uh the trumpet through which lubavitch did its work the previously have established markets with great mercedes-nefes that have of course continued the work of america's and created this incredible miracle which is today and as great as it is today you realize without much thought that every year two or three it multiplies and doubles and triples it's incredible the today we're seeing the incredible outlook of markets but it's all rooted in the mercedes-benz of the early years um and of course there was the house publishing house and march which was also at one point much more important than it is today um but aguero became a secondary misid machine during the lifetime defeated canada did much more things than it does now magnesium was a clandestine organization that drew from a people into the work of the previous rebbe and there were apparently hundreds of members and you read the charter of israel the idea was that from people should join the work that was doing secretly nobody should know who's a member and it did a lot of good things once upon a time um more recently mahnesha had a much more limited role in the very recent years that ebb had the machine development fund which was a way of raising money to do all kinds of good things but i guess you could say the babies for the most part became america now the cemetery the base of khaim is under a good 770 is registered so when the svardam were taken and the ownership of 770 and the ownership of the previous debits library was contended it became necessary to re-establish the goods charter so that would called a meaning and explained that it was necessary to fill in all of the slats of the officers that had passed away since the charter had been rewritten in the early 40s i suppose and that it was necessary for good to step forward and take on a more official role and the rabbi explained to them what happened with this forum and the story is the story that goes around is that the rabbit told them the following i'm going to ask you a question before i ask you this question i want you to know that my decisions already been reached but i'm still asking you i want to hear what you have to say notwithstanding that i've already made up my mind and the rabbit asked basically should labavich fight for 770 in this form or should they settle compromise in other words accept that in fact 770 and this farm are not that abbess but they belong to the previous level personally and different to his rabbits and therefore could be distributed by her at the time of her passing or should it ever fight and there was a yid present who answered the rabbi in good faith within gansen to us that he felt that la bavish didn't need this kind of press labach is a very important organization that the work of does is too important to be distracted by this kind of a nonsense and he felt that the rabbit should settle and the rebbe's response was very emotional that was slammed his fist into the door and said name a villain which means in plain english we cannot compromise because this is not about sodom this is about the seat the throne the throne of labavich and here lies the essence of the story of this forum this wasn't about money it wasn't about books it wasn't about a building it was about the debate and this was far too important too sacred to be compromised it would have been about money it would have been resolved we probably never even have heard about it but it wasn't about money it was about principle somebody came along and contended the debbie's legitimacy as that and most importantly as the successor of the previous event as the next in line as the continuation or as that ever would explain it that in the rebbe the previous rabbi continues to live and this was not the kind of thing that i could afford to compromise and that's why the story of this photo unfolded the way it unfolded the following sunday night was your base thomas levi spoke by fabregan went public and he uh he told the story someone stole svarim and he he mentioned the hashikaka paratus that someone else that tried to take sodium and they were caught and as a consequence they were paying attention and therefore they caught this intruder and that he the way that i put at the previous level was watching his own library and protecting it and the rebbe argued that the svarim and 770 were the property of avilabab husset and therefore every baptist hosted had the personal obligation and right to to contend to object to the fact that this photo were taken now i want to tell you something i was in california that's on the united based thomas i remember watching if i bring it on on cable and the way the rebbe explained the story of the fabregan was very ephemeral it was very esoteric it was very difficult to understand what he was talking about what he meant and to be sure we know from documents that have been published by people very close to the rabbi where the devil wrote very strong notes because the rebel was frustrated by the fact that people did not understand him people didn't know what the issue was because the rebels spoke on two levels there was this the mystical version of patricia's father and the practical version of ashes is funny and they're not inconsistent they're in concert they're they're a hand in a glove but publicly certainly on your base thomas the bespoke the spiritual side the holiness side and how this translates into a real viable practical argument to be taken to a court and fought in defense of the the rebels ownership of seven seven years foreign seemed very far out it was very difficult for people to relate to and that ever had to explain it and about to explain it to the lawyers that have had to insist that the lawyers follow his sense of how this should be done and unfolded and it took a long time or some time at least for people to appreciate that whatever was not only in atsilas it was also an asean and i'll present you each argument separately what spoke with your base thomas was in short the previous ever still alive and you cannot distribute the estate of a living person it's as simple as that there was a lava there was a histalcus and there was a vaya and in the words of the rabbit touching a book is another levia it's like kashalam affecting the rabbi again in a way of the opposite of life but that haven't made it very plain that in his opinion the previous level lives and you cannot steal you know take books and call it an inheritance of a person who's still living and that ever used very powerful expressions like men right leviticus taking these booklets like cutting pieces of flesh from a living person and the debbie explained how precious this father were to the previous dead and how much mercedes he literally gave away bread money and medicine money to buy these foot in because they were absolutely priceless to him and moving the safer that the deb had placed here to here was physically painful to the previous rabbit and the devil insisted that the previous rabbi is still alive and therefore he cannot distribute the estate of a living person i supposed to argue that in court now of course the the issue is as the rabbi explained it so clearly the previous rabble lived in every house the the the entire relationship between hasidim and the law of a king the king's most powerful man in the country he doesn't even own the bed he sleeps on and the wagon and charity drives it everything is everybody's he belongs to the people and of course all of us know the famous observation that the rebels made in her deposition which was so decisive in how the case was fought in court where she said the books belong to my father my father and the books belong to this farm this wasn't only some kind of a poetic response it was the truth it it's summarized in the most concise words the absolute fact about the nature of the relationship that was most powerful he's a king nobody questions him nobody doubts him nobody challenges him he's a rabbit but the nature of the relationship between arab and his that he belongs to them i explained to you in the very beginning how the rabbi understood and the rabbi is the king malek paid it together but his entire identity is hasidim and the rabble goes on to say zareb as long as they see them live and of course live doesn't mean biologically live live doesn't mean legally live live means live in the spirit of the if you follow under his ways and you continue doing the things that ever taught and inspired and led and the path he trotted out for hasidim as long as the hasidim of following the ways of that ever who behind that ever lives on and that ebb made this very powerfully clear in the fabregan of your base thomas and there were several other occasions afterwards during the next short period of time a week or a couple of weeks that bespoke i think four times publicly about this for him and this was the position that the reason the sodom and the building of 770 did not belong to the family is because the rabbit the friedrich is still alive and he's alive in every single cross and i remember that ever speaking so painfully about that said this is not my responsibility this is the responsibility of every husset every single paper and every single safer in the previous service library every single brick in the building of 770 is the property of every laboratory we are all good the members of the chabad family and as long as we are following the ways of the freedom through the sedum that believes and sins through the hasidim that ever lives you can't divide in a state of a living person this was the mystical argument and of course it never went into the idea of atsadik and that what sadik's life was never physical but says that the was never defined by physiology it was always the nashome and the love of god and fear of god then faith in god and like says in that letter that sadiq who lived and shaved any person who lived in the spirit of the sadiq during the physical during the biological lifetime of the today he leaves from the life of the sadiq and not living person and as long as there are living people traversing this earth who are following in the ways of in them that is living this is i suppose in short the spiritual argument the neshama argument and that's what that ever spoke publicly you'd be thomas and you can understand that you're watching this i was not in 70 i was watching it in yeshiva on on the screen and you're firstly trying to figure out what i was talking about it took us a while to discover that it was that ebb is grandson the previous episode were taking this for him and it was very difficult to understand how that this argument this ephemeral this spiritual this mystical argument that that ebb is alive is going to get you the books back in a court of law we were all very upset we didn't know how to deal with it practically of course but then there's the practical side of this it's the same argument from a different perspective and the practical side of this is idea of community civil die communities don't die you build a shul in a city like new york is that shul doesn't belong to every new yorker that show doesn't belong to every person who's a member of that show that show belongs to every jew in the world because since you're building in a big city which is frequented by others if you want to sell that show it's mission from every human jew on the planet because everyone owns it it's community communities don't die and the argument was that the svarim in 770 were communities it was everything in other words the parallel the practical side of zaare bachaya of hubbard as long as that ever lives as long as the hasidim live in the ways of the rabbit that ever lives was the idea that this is not the property of one man it's probably the whole community and of course the counter argument is and it's a pretty good counter argument would any jew question what the previous rabbit did with us for him if the priesthood wanted to sell a safe or give it away as a gift would anybody doubt it everybody question it he was whatever he can do what he wishes and everybody recognized that and everybody was happy that this is the way it was and that ebba said that's right the previous rabbi can do what the lorry as he wishes but he was doing it on behalf of every hassan he was the rajish pane israel he was the head of the community of hasidim and like i said to you before a melech is the most powerful man in all of israel and he literally belongs to the nation and as the rabbitson put it the rabbit is the head of a goddess and so to speak he belongs to the khasidim and he's free to do as he wishes with the sanction of the rabbi but as this is the community that is in possession of this of this wealth of this property of these these books and this house and so on and this was the position that lavish took that belongs so as time passed the significance of this debate of this controversy of this division emerged what is the issue in plain english the issue is when the previous ever physically was nostalgic was that an end one argument was this is it it's an interruption nobody was contending the fact that the deb is a big taddick and doing wonderful things but he's a new entity he's not a continuation from previous level on the other side of saying what are you talking about his entire identity entire identity is his connection to the freedom and is to keep the previous vision alive and then delivered the previous level lives and to the rabbit this is very personal because if you cut off the rabbit from the previous rabbit the whole business of lubavitch and abysteve means nothing to him the rabbit to the rabbit everything is that he's sitting on the throne of the previous rabbi you know he he has access to the throne of la bachcha as a grand descendant of the tsa but that didn't matter to the rabbit what matter to the devil was the shepherd was the previous and this is what was being contended the contention was that the previous level was physically nastalic and as a consequence the bavitch of one age ended and this was a new entity and that ever couldn't allow that to rest because the debbie's whole spiritual identity is the bond with him in the previous habit and he couldn't allow that to be cut off do you know do you know that when the lebenson passed away muslim passed away the rabbi asked her of halachically whether he still considered a son-in-law and that of of course baskin that he was in other words again whatever's intentions was nobody knows but you can assume that the rabbi's intentions were to to secure that continuity because that's the rabbit's homozias this his fascist has bonded him in his rebel the freedom but the previous rebel lives and this is the story these are the two sides one side is claiming that the previous was a private man and his talcus was the end of his life and as a consequence what remains of his possessions belongs to his family and the other side was claiming the previous evil was not a private man he was the head of a community and he lives in that community as long as that community follows in his ways and therefore you cannot distribute the estate of a living person you cannot distribute the state of a community that lives in this viable these are the two sides and of course later on in the winter of members during the weeks of the trial and then later on also in memphis occurred that ebb explained the undercurrent and what the rabbi explained in short was that this was not a struggle between the rabbi and his nephew this was something with kit rook just like the altar ever went to jail not because amis naga didn't like him or two miss nagin didn't like him or three minutes nagging didn't like him but because on high there was a challenge to his dissemination of casitas and his right to reveal hasidis so abundantly and we know this of course is printed in the safe and base rebbe that the vashem the holy boshemth of the holy magi visited the alternative in jail and he asked them the altar asked his neighbors why am i sitting in prison and they told him it's because he's spreading so much qasidas so although said so then i'll stop and they told him no once you started and you went to prison if and when with hashem's help you are released from prison they should do even more and the same is true about the middle adapter's arrest that i've explained that it was not about uh politics and extortion or whatever the details on the ground were but there was a kitter milo as the said repeatedly everything that happens in the life of a sadiq happens with his acceptance with his approval and therefore these events these arrests and these setbacks were because that abaym accepted the challenge to their legitimacy to what they were doing because it needed to be moved it needed to be worked through and of course the redemption of the al-qaeda from jail and then the middle earth from jail and then the previous abom jail the pandavashalam was an indication again from on high that had been vindicated and like writes in the letter the fact that it was a non-jew who acknowledged the legitimacy of qasidis and let him go that means a non-jew when it comes to jewish mitzvahs it doesn't have free will and as a result when the non-jew passes that khasiris is legitimate that means that the habitat is legitimate and that ebb applied those ideas to this story that there was a kit lamilo and if you really simmer it down the kit regular milo was to what to the continuity of the rabbit from the fridge and of course is infallible you cannot come to the altar and say oh there's something wrong with you why are you doing that to reveal with the understanding that the degree to which his hasidim will utilize the hasidis that he is revealing will reflect itself upon him if hasidim don't use it properly they're not going to go to jail he will they're not going to experience a kidrock he will that's what mesitas nevis means you reveal trailer you bring qasidas into the world and you subject yourself to how somebody other than yourself is going to utilize these revelations and if they fail to use them adequately the critique comes back to you and this is how the rebbe explained in effect the story of this forum this was a kitten milo in other words on the ground it was labavich against so and so but this was the form of it the substance of it the neshama of it was that the the legitimacy of the continuity of the hamsa of the rebbe from the previous heb was being challenged and of course it's not because there could be anything wrong with the rabbit there's a question on this or in the words of the rabbit where the goodness is active enough to be able to claim that through the work of a goddess lives on this is how the rabbis saw this farm this is how the story was explained at the time and there's a story which is interesting that a few years earlier nemanja was in new york must have been in 81 afternoon maybe in his last visit to the rabbit and the rabbit called him and the rebbe said him the following i am in the midst of publishing hasidis from old rabbi as soon as we find the sav you immediately type it you immediately edit it and immediately publish it and nobody is learning this forum in other words i remember this as a child and as a young boy the every year you would have five or six new volumes of the alterne and then once they finished the middle adapter started coming out and it was just an incredible relationship between tufts and and a decade and a half probably 700 volumes several hundred volumes of new xenos are printed maybe that's an exaggeration but at least a hundred new books of hasidis that no human eye had ever laid eyes on the altar in the middle and so on it was an incredible radiation nobody is learning in the hasidis and then he said quote i'm afraid that i'm going to be held responsible for it and i'm going to get a pinch on the nose if you will uh criticism back and that abba said i'm not going to allow myself to be held back by this i will continue the print and i believe that abassador the reason he's calling him because of nissan was in paltava and he knows the old lubavitch and he has a certain responsibility and evidently this schnellen nas of which that ever spoke in other words to the rebbe although on the ground he was in a struggle with his nephew which as i told you in the very beginning was so painful so painful so personal so not easy and comfortable but on a spiritual level the devil was fighting which was questioning the legitimacy of how he is the continuation of the previous rabbis and again there's no question that this is not about the rabbit per se it's about how the hasidim carry out the devil's work which is why the rebbe's reaction to this episode was to increase the output of hasidis to increase the output of new initiatives and ideas in in spreading casinos and spreading yiddish all over the world during those couple of years that ever did many many original things base khabad and and many other things particularly during the weeks of the trial itself which i'll get to later on in hashem all to to guarantee this in other words the more good you do the more you prove to the heavens that zare bachhaim that the rebel lives in his hasidim who continue in his footsteps and as a consequence on earth the kittrug is removed and then this farm and the building of 770 are no longer contended this is so to speak the new shama of the story of haitives and of course the fabregans that went on after the talked about the fact that it's a secret from the rabbit i believe who explained that because qasidis is so deep the contention to hasidis that have come from a god will be israel from eden from elohim and the discussion goes on that when the previous level was arrested it had to be from the sentence of hasidim and in this case it was literally that of his own family in other words the issue on the table was so deep is the previous rabbit and the new goof was so deep that it came mamish from the rabbit's family in other words only such a kayak could challenge should could counter this idea and by the way these words that tereb is it is the same the shaman the different guff that ever said exactly those words on more than one occasion about himself and his relationship with the previous and of course what happened was there was a need to appoint people who were capable they had the knowledge and the the skill and necessary to fight this in court as i explained to you before i remember listening to one of the lawyers say that the first time rabbi krinsky came to see him he came to him with a page of the explaining why under these conditions they were allowed to go tell us he says he never had such a thing that the first time someone comes to him for him to represent him in a court of law he brings the with him the copy portion of the page of the that permitted them to go to their questions to go to a secular court and i explained to you before it was barry's decision berkeley's call to say we started in court finished in court and this is what happened as i explained to you before almost a short while left he had based on was um equal a lien was put and this forum were no longer being sold barry felt that he would win and they would allow him to continue telling us for him he felt it was all legitimate and of course no one will ever understand what was the point of stealing the books in the middle of the night it you know ain't other may seem russian do a few things that he could have done that would have made himself look worse in his own assessment of self than that act and then that summer was a time of discovery in other words i don't understand legalese but there was a lot of papers that needed to be collected evidence needed to be gathered and all kinds of things needed to be done to to prepare for the case the case would begin around six months later in kislift which is august november um of course laboratory hired lawyers and in typical whatever fashion they hired a lawyer who had helped lubavitch many many years before dribble has a sense of loyalty he had a lawyer and he worked used the same one and of course they added an additional lawyer and they met ebay and i heard first-hand accounts of people who are witnesses to these meetings they never would meet with the lords and discuss the case with them and they're always at a very hard time understanding what they never wanted and the way i understand it is this the lawyers understood that this is not an easy case to win because it was a a will when a person writes a legal will that means to say they're writing a document about what's going to happen to their property after they go away after they're not in a position to defend themselves and speak their own mind so apparently in american law america feels obligated to honor your wishes so if you were the legal will and you're no longer there to explain what you meant to fight for your desires the state has to protect your interests and here we're going to come along and question the legitimacy of a will the chamadin had written a will so their position was to discredit the will the remnant's position was to discredit her very ownership of this property it wasn't the question nothing wrong with the will for whatever reason it didn't belong to her she has no right it's like me coming into your house and writing a will about your property going into your house taking books and giving them away and saying here's a gift from me didn't belong to her they belonged to and to every little baby and this was apparently unprecedented it's not the kind of how do they come to court of law and rabbi passes away 21 years later his debits and passes away and they come along and say no he's still living and somehow explained that it's not private it's public it's not personal it's communal and the way it was described in 770 one year the lawyers said to the rebe we we can follow you blindly in other words we don't see it your way to us this seems like a an effort an approach which is doomed to failure but if the rabbi insists we'll um we'll do what the rabbi says and the rapper said no i want you to do it my way but i don't want you to do it with blind faith i want to win you over and convince you that my way is the only way and apparently it took some time for the lawyers to see it that abby's way and they did they they fought the the case on these bases that this is not a question of the legitimacy of the will it was a question of ownership it belonged it belonged it belongs and will always belong to every lab every lab is and as long as we are hasidim and hasidim doesn't mean you carry a badge but that you go in the ways of the arab and you continue the work of the rabbit you you are a owner in india and the rabbit's life you are the rabbis life and the devil lives in each crossed and therefore 770 this father and all the rest is yours there's an interesting story now lawyers of course are into collecting papers so when the pre-trial discovery stage was done they collected a cart hundreds and hundreds of documents all kinds of letters and so on that ever met them in the canada right outside his room canada with one piece of paper a letter written to a bibliographer i believe a person who was in charge of a library bibliotheque called marx if i'm not wrong i believe it was written in the 1940s and in this letter the previous rebel explains the purpose of his library that it is the property it's the sacred trust of allah and that it is meant to be used as a library for research and things like this and the previous app makes it very very clear that it is a public property and of course that sachikonega the other side argued that the letter was less than honest and during the course of the trial some people were asked very pointedly if the previous debt was capable of telling a lie there's actually a letter from 1939 that when the war started the nebula wrote a letter to god in america quoting saying in quotes the the books which you lent me i no longer have used for and i can't keep them please take them back in other words indicate that the books always belong to god in america and of course the opposition argued that this was said as a way of saving his father was less than truthful but it was established by everybody in the court of law that the priesthood was a very big sadiq and incapable of telling a lie and he said it because it was true it belonged to a goddess in any case it took about six months for all this evidence to be collected and there was a three week trial now again i say i missed the entire story i went off right when it started i was wearing shlirikis but alabacher who was alive 25 years ago could have been deaf dumb and blind and known whether or not thirty years ago what was going on and there were so many incredible hashikar in the trial first of all took place in kislev which is of course the month of redemption and all good things as keslev and it took place i'm not mistaken over three weeks which included tescus live the you know from the hasidic perspective the optimum time of the year couldn't have had a better time and every day the courtroom was full of hasidim or came to show support and the lawyers would say later that it really did help them and um and it was all kinds of witnesses brought and the so much of the history and the inner workings of the were exposed and the rebbe would say later people shouldn't waste their time reading the transcript of the case but apparently i've never read it i don't own it but apparently there's a lot of very very interesting pieces of history about lubavitch recorded in all of these proceedings but to a few remarkable events and probably the most remarkable is the following they deposed that ebberson as we know and by the way that was in deposition which lasted a very very long time in the very very beginning she was asked by her own lawyers by our lawyers whether the books belonged to her she said no and the lawyer asked her why wouldn't you think the books belong to you she says it never crossed my mind they didn't belong to me they didn't belong to my father she said my father owned nothing thousand filmed f maybe he owned this thousand film she said it never for a moment entered into my thought that this was private private property it wasn't mine i didn't think about it and of course the red banded rabbits and zibbets and her sister were incredibly close and one of the terribly painful aspects of this whole episode was this this division between these two very very close sisters and she made it very clear to her sister that she was not going to discuss this photo with her she was very very strong language which is difficult even to repeat to make it very clear that this was off limits that she would talk to her sister but not about books it was none of their business and they were not going to share it but the rabbitson saw it that abby's way squarely and stood with the rabbit courageously unbelievably but they also wanted to pose that ever and the point of the posing that may have had various purposes but there's no doubt that there was an element of of uh punishing him of embarrassing him just humiliating him and there's different versions one version is that abby said i wouldn't mind testifying but what i'm going to say i heard from you krinsky once that he said that reba actually told him that he doesn't mind going to testify and rabbi krinsky said that's not going to happen and it was a very difficult issue and our lawyers argued that the rebbe is not well enough to come to the court and testify and that would affect his health adversely so the other side came along with the govaldika argument they went into 770 or someone represented them in 770. and they collected one weeks one week's worth of material that they'd ever produced in sierras you know yiddish hebrew i mean so much in those years so much title was coming out of the deb it was like a fountain and he brings it into the court of law and puts it in front of the judge and says look tell me this is a sick man this is one week's worth of material new toyota in other words he's a very healthy man he's incredibly robust look look at his output so the judge asks their lawyers what are in these papers his speeches his talks his opinions and he explained that emma talks about all kinds of different things and the judge asked if all of his opinions are in these papers and the lawyer said yes does it include his opinion on the books and the lawyer said yes and the judge says well if his opinions of the books are in these papers why do you have to bring him into the court you can just read what he wrote in his books what he said in his speeches and that's the way it stayed the debut was not asked to come and testify it was an unbelievableness the judge was a and this is whatever this argument that the judge puts forth that the rebbe's papers can represent him because everything he holds is written in his papers is it's it's mama lemonade you know the very same position that was meant to be used as the basis for bringing the rabbi into the court and embarrassing him turned out to be the basis for the ness and the rabbit did not to come testify i was learning los angeles at the time and one afternoon they took aside the tables they hired a band and we pushed it sang and danced this was your gimmel kisliv 1985 tough shin meme apparently was it often that had been pushed to celebrate this incredible mess this incredibleness that that ebba was not made to testify um because all of his opinions were written on the papers brought into the court by the opposition to prove that needs to come and testify and for three weeks this trial went on um the labor was very preoccupied that i went to isle every single day during the trial the story goes that the neighbor was so preoccupied he wasn't answering any letters not even letters about shidduchim and that a couple had dated and they'd written to the rebel and they waited i think a week and there was no response and they decided to not get married apparently that wasn't answering that means ever doesn't approve of the shidduch so they wrote to the debate to inform him that they're breaking off the shidduch and they have immediately sent him out of masaltov it was completely proactive but every day his whole life was the sword and you know what he didn't speak a word of it publicly there was an event that occurred which was tragic and that had been never again for the for the very very beginning ever spoke about this farm i think four times in the course of a week and a half but then he never spoke publicly about it again never and it seems reasonable to assume that if not for that event that i would have talked about it all summer but he didn't um the there's very wonderful series during chanakya memvov and then of course heitaves hamisha batevis and then the days after memzai and developed and explained the entire event of this forum but he always explained it in the more spiritual sense i think there was a kittruk and that the kids had to be resolved and not ever again about the seriousness of so and so taking this for him and ended his words taking living pieces of flesh from a living person the trial lasted about three weeks and we argued that everyone wanted the child the the lawyers to argue that it belonged to everybody every alibaba and again as i mentioned here before there's two aspects to this the mystical aspect is who bachayam that ever lives that ever lives where is that i believe in zareb every single hosset whose is the rebels life on this earth and therefore you cannot divide the estate of a living person and the practical argument was civil a battle it's communal belongs to everybody and then we waited for a verdict it took exactly a year till hamisha batevis the following year tough saiyan 1986 when the judge gave a verdict which gave lobavich everything there was no settlement there was no compromise everything obviously there's much more to the story and i miss hashem will do this we'll continue the story next time [Music] so [Music] [Applause] [Music] me [Music] to [Music] [Applause] [Music] you