The Borrowed Talis - Rav Zev Smith

[clears throat] >> I'd like to welcome everyone to today's show from Miss Dina have a great system sponsoring a show called Tyro 718 8518651 or email IST at the shivnet.com. Ross Smith. This is Pesach someone asked me to try the second day Yom Tov when it is in shul he come to shul people put their tallisim on the table from yesterday they don't want to fold it up and put it away. So there are a bunch of tallisim on the table he picked up the wrong one made a brocha on it and realized it wasn't his tallis. So he wanted to know first of all could he continue davening with it it's not his he has no resource. Was the brocha atollah because it wasn't his tallis could he should he make a new brocha? And the embassy once had a shaila someone nearly Yom Kippur he realized during his mincha that he was wearing someone else's tallis. Went out to the bathroom before the mincha and it swapped and the question is is there a problem with that mitzvah? We had a shaila with a brocha during the during the summer the camp his tallis became tallis cotton became possul he was playing ball whatever. I told him borrow a tallis from a friend of yours but make sure you kind of I'm an asla haasa. He looked at me like I was strange. This is not dollar minium what is an asla haasa have to do with anything. And one more shaila for now for him this is a common shaila brocha want to have a different type of a costume. So they rented a a tuxedo. A tuxedo is something like today's frocks kapota it has dollar can voice but obviously there's no tzitzis. Is there any heter to wear a tuxedo or any dollar can voice without tzitzis if it's just the shame of a costume? So this and more are really part of a beautiful sugia there's three different gemaras it's a full sugia >> [clears throat] >> because if you notice the common denominator of all the questions is the following. >> [clears throat] >> We know dollar minium to be yoitz on the first day it has to be lachem has to be yours. So if you took someone else's you're not yoitz. The question is does that apply to the mitzvah of tzitzis and I must mention once and for all we talk about tzitzis there's no difference tallis godol or tallis cotton. >> [clears throat] >> If tzitzis has to be yours then a tallis cotton also has to be yours. But the question is by dollar minium it says lachem lachem there's no [clears throat] such possuk we buy in tzitzis. So you can't make a brocha without a source. >> [clears throat] >> So the embassy is the first mention of this concept is gemara menachis mem dalid tallis a borrowed tallis kol shlosha yamim paturim at tzitzis b'chol eilach chayavim. Now here we see what we're looking for without a reason or a source. Here the gemara said that tallis has to be lachem not lachem but it doesn't say lachem but it has to be yours and [clears throat] if not there's no mitzvah. But the strange thing is number one there's no reason for this doesn't seem to mention a source. Number two more importantly here it makes a difference 30 days or not. Why if you have to be yours why is it different 30 days? Now we know by mezuzah there's a two or 30 days but a totally different reason. That is because you might move out you might not stay there. But the mice here we see and we have two questions. Number one why is it kapota toich l'ammit and why is ach l'ammit more b'chiyuv? So the second gemara that we're going to mention is in chulin kuf lamed vov. The gemara is on a possuk tasu l'cha tasu lach al arba kanfos k'sutcha zogt [clears throat] the gemara the word k'sutcha implies it has to be yours and that's why a tallis sh'ula is patur toich l'ammit. We don't yet see what's the difference 30 or more than 30. So this is the third source in chulin kuf amud beis in Tosafos. Tosafos says that really me d'oraisa you're patur from tzitzis forever. A sh'ula but more than 30 days neeres k'shel oy it looks like yours people think he's wearing this a long time. What's with the what's with the mitzvah of tzitzis? So it seems to be a a form of a maris ayin. When you wear tzitzis for a beggar a few days without tzitzis no nishkaf but more than 30 days is going too far. So here we have exactly what we're looking for we have the din of tzitzis tallis cotton and godol has to be yours not lachem but k'sutcha. More than 30 days even a tallis sh'ula is going to be possul. And this [clears throat] is all in Shulchan Aruch siman yud dalid seif kuf. Seif yud dalid siman yud dalid seif gimmel and l'maisa this is clock. Now l'mai another question that we have to add is how about if you rent something for less than 30 days. A perfect example would be our tuxedo shaila. They didn't buy it they didn't borrow it they rented it. So we do know in certain halachos sh'ira is kinyan but says the Mishna Berura seif katan yud he quotes many poskim and I saw even more than what Mishna Berura quotes that disregard if it's not yours it's not k'sutcha a rental is patur. Now Mishna Berura doesn't bring the itter is mastapek but if you look in Tiyul Ha'adovos seif katan hey he proves and that's the the maskana of Mishna Berura that not only is a tallis sh'ula patur but even a tallis s'chora a rented tallis is patur as well. >> [clears throat] >> Now l'maisa we have to ask a important question and basically the question is as follows. Let's say I have a beged sh'ula. Let's say I have this uh tuxedo. Or I borrow someone's dollar can voice. But no tzitzis right? Tallis sh'ula means you borrowed the beged don't forget. You know we tie to word tallis we think about a tallis godol or tallis cotton that's that's not correct. In the Mishna and gemara terminology the word tallis is a cloak. Shnayim ochazim b'tallis does not mean they're fighting about a tallis godol. So the halacha we're talking about now is you borrow a tallis a beged of dollar can voice it could be a frock it could be a a a a tuxedo. So you're patur. So theoretically a person that borrows again a tuxedo or a frock could wear it up to 30 days with no tzitzis. Now today the frocks they have it's rounded off so you don't have three corners the four corners but no doubt a borrowed frock or a the tuxedo is patur from tzitzis. Now let's [clears throat] say I decide chacham lev yikach mitzvos I say I'm going to put on the tzitzis anyhow. I could wear this frock without without tzitzis but I want to be a little strange I put on tzitzis on this beged. >> [clears throat] >> Can I make a brocha on this frock? Again it's real dollar can voice real tzitzis but it's borrowed. So try to jog your memory where do we have something like this that the possuk says you're patur and I do it anyhow? Can I make a brocha when I'm really not chayav? So you know what came to my mind? Noshim b'mitzvos asei she hazman grama. They're patur from sukka it's a possuk lulav shofar and yet as we know the minhag rov Yisrael >> [clears throat] >> that when women do these mitzvos they're allowed to make a brocha. Now of course the shita of the Rambam is that you they can't make a brocha because you can't say v'tzivanu and you should not say v'tzivanu on on on the leishiv basukka they have no chiyuv. But the Beis Yosef and that's the minhag of probably rov Klal Yisrael that we could make the brocha a woman do make a brocha. Ay v'tzivanu teretz is that it's not going on me. Tzivanu is not going on the isha or me particularly it's going on Klal Yisrael. So Klal Yisrael has a mitzvah leishiv basukka and that's why the Sefardim and some Brisk follow the Rambam's shita and thus they will not make a brocha. On on sh'man grama even though they do it. A mitzvah asei she hazman grama a a smaller mitzvah but there's no brocha. But minhag rov Yisrael you make a brocha. Now [clears throat] I have a great idea. Chacham lev yikach mitzvos I'll put on tzitzis on the beged anyhow. I can even make a brocha. True or false? Now again this particular shaila is not nogea but this is nogea for the rest of the shaila this the rayum the concept of it. Comes again Tosafos of an art and the Rosh in chulin perek ches siman kuf vov says the exact same thing. He says no the dimyon is not correct. But listen to the beautiful lomdus. If an isha says v'tzivanu it's perfectly true. The Borei Olam commanded us to sit in the sukka not me isha particularly but everybody else. But there's no such mitzvah to put tzitzis on a beged sh'ula. The possuk says k'sutcha. So how can you say v'tzivanu there's no such mitzvah. And therefore Tosafos says even if you want to put on tzitzis on your beged tzula, no bracha is said. Yet the pella is both toises and the rush after they convince us that no bracha is said, they both say the same loshin, mikom mokom amavorei al pikain amavoreiach loy hefsid. >> [clears throat] >> You got to make a bracha. So the question is you just proved it that it doesn't make sense with tzivonu cuz there is no such mitzvah. So what are you saying now? Amavoreiach loy hefsid. Tarris, if you think about it, it's very simple. Because lemaisa, you're right. There's no mitzvah of beged tzula. But for the ba'alim who owns that frock, I thought it was a mitzvah. So there is a mitzvah in this very context, albeit for the ba'alim. So I'm saying bitzivonu for the ba'alim. So this simple shaila of making a bracha on tallis shula, toises and the and the rush hold you shouldn't, but if you do it, loy hefsid. >> [clears throat] >> And this is all in shulchan aruch sim gimmel hashoel mechaverai tallis she'eina metzuyetzes. Don't forget, tallis means a dollar comfies garment without tzitzis. patur lemelech al botzitzis why d'ksiv suscha zogt mishnah brura and the mishnah brura that if you even want, you could put on tzitzis and mevareiach loy hefsid. So in other words, they didn't reject it like don't make a bracha. They said if you want to make a bracha, loy hefsid. So again, what's important to me is this yesod that even though you're patur from tzitzis cuz of beged tzula, if you choose to wear him that beged tzula, you're einamitzivaisa. If you choose to make a bracha, we don't advise it, but if you do make a bracha, amavoreiach loy hefsid. But again, the word asher kidishanu mitzvotav is beautiful. The only question is does the word bitzivonu, is that true or not? And here we have amavoreiach loy hefsid. Now according to this analysis, for a Sefardi who follows the Rambam and that that nosim, even nosim don't make a bracha on lulav, shofar, and sukka, you're looking siman yud zayin regarding tzitzis and siman taf kuf peh tes regarding shofar. So if they don't make a nosim don't make a bracha on zman grama mitzvos, so of course, those that follow that minig, the men should not make a bracha on a tallis shula even though you put it on. Okay. Now before you apply this more specifically, I will ask you one more common shaila. And that is let's [clears throat] say a person comes to shul in the morning and this is negaya weekday or shabbos, he was pushed, he was late, he was rushing to shul, he gets to shul, he left his tallis in the house. So he's late on a tallis, he can't go home and get it. What do you do if you have no tallis godol for shachris? Shabbos, it was a bad weather, he doesn't want to go to the regular shul, he comes to your shul, there's no tallis, and he doesn't have a tallis. How could how does he wear the tallis? Or he has a simcha bikitza, he needs a tallis godol that he doesn't have. So the question is, is there anything wrong if he goes over to someone that he knows and I should mention make sure he's not a mafnik, but would you mind if I borrow your tallis? He says, "Mind? I'm very happy. Take my tallis, put it back when you're finished. It's a great zchus." Question is anything anything problematic about that exchange? Now he has this this has your tallis with reshus bitzivonu. Anything wrong with him making a bracha on it? You think what's wrong? It's a kosher tzitzis. What's wrong? What's wrong? He said I'd like to borrow your tallis. So your tallis is a tallis shula. So there's no mitzvah. And if he follows the Rambam, he can make a bracha on it. Isn't that the same thing? And that seems to be correct. However, the same rush says liner that when is there a concept problem like the gemara says, he borrows a tallis. Tallis means tallis she'eina metzuyetzes. He borrows our comfies. But if you borrow tallis metzuyetzes, every tallis that we have tallis metzuyetzes, zogt the rush, you're allowed to be yoitze be yoitze the mitzvah with it and even make a bracha. Why? I he said, "Lemaissa, I would like to borrow it." Zogt the rush, but if you know, you the ba'alim know that he wants to make a bracha and do a mitzvah, then you can't just give it to him bitzivonu. Because there's no mitzvah. So there's an umdena you gave it bitzivonu as makan maslacha chazer. And therefore it's his. If it's his, you can make a bracha. >> [clears throat] >> And the rush has a raya. The gemara in Moed Katan chavam beis says if someone borrows a cholek, a beged, nothing with tzitzis. And nebach, he found out his father was passed away. So he can't rice kria on the beged. I he was given it to wear. Tarris says, "Yeah, given it to wear, but not to rice kria." But let's say he said, "I'm going he's going to visit his father who's deathly ill, can I borrow your beged?" So you understand that he might need it. Then he's allowed to make kria. What do we see? If it's understood what he needs it, it's like he gave it to him. Zogt the rush, who are then here? If you borrow a tallis godol to be yoitze the mitzvah, not just put her on for a half a moment for an aliya, you need a mitzvah. There's an automatic umdena, automatic amanaslacha chazer. And guess what? We're back to dalid minim. Just like the velt knows that the first day has to be lachem, so how could you be yoitze taking someone else's dalid minim? The tarris says Adam, since it has to be lachem, there's an umdena you gave it bitzivonu as amanaslacha chazer. And who are then our very case? So now we have basically two concepts. Tallis she'eina metzuyetzes is patur. We said you could be a einamitzivaisa make a bracha maybe, but tallis metzuyetzes, if you borrow it leshem mitzvah, it's yours. Make a bracha, it is yours. And that's the mechaber in the end of sim gimmel, shala kishaim metzuyetzes, mevareiach leha miyad. Now let's apply this lemaisa and I'll I'll ask you two questions again that that crystallize the point even more. Let's say you know someone, interesting fellow, he has a frock. Like a patu we used to call it, now called frock. And it has dalid comfies and he didn't round it up, he put on tzitzis on them. He wants to raise a lot of money on Purim, he goes around with a frock with tzitzis, you make a lot of money. A few years he did this mitzvah, he did this collecting and made money, but the guy burnt out. So you want to borrow it from him and this year you want to collect with the frock with tzitzis. And that's it's an obvious fine. [clears throat] So he says bitzivonu you want to borrow it for Purim here, I'm giving it to you. Fine. You got you you have a little bit of an interesting mishegas by mincha, you want to wear the the frock leshem mitzvah. And you put on the frock, you want to make a bracha on the frock. And it's perfect, dalid comfies, perfect tzitzis. Can you make a bracha on it? So then why not? I This is tallis metzuyetzes. I'll tell you why not. Cuz you told him you want to make money with his funny costume. You didn't tell him that you want to make a bracha on it. Did he give it to you amanaslacha chazer like you like he gave a tallis in the morning? Did he give you like dalid minim? Zogt the taz, sim katan dalid, when do this this trick amanaslacha chazer is an automatic umdena? When he knows that you wanted leshem mitzvah. Now he doesn't give that mashal because they wasn't in exist, but this I think is a beautiful mashal. But let me give you a better mashal and much more practical. Let's say you got an Eretz Yisrael, it's much more common cuz in chutz la'aretz we don't duchen that often, so everything is done with a little more more foresight. But let's say a person that they they're about to go up to the Kohanim for duchaning and this kohen is running up to the duchan, he has no he has no tallis. He goes, "Can I borrow your tallis?" He said, "Sure." You give him the tallis. Okay. Now you don't know how frum he is. This bachur makes a bracha on the tallis before he duchans. We'll soon see if that's oiska machar dayis, but he makes a bracha. Can that bachur make a bracha on the tallis before he before he duchans? Hopefully there's no tircha cuz the tzibur waiting for him. So here this is the same problem. Cuz you didn't know that he's frum make a bracha on a tallis leshem duchaning. So you didn't give it to him leshem mitzvah, you gave it to him leshem kinyan ativah. And indeed, the bachur cannot make a bracha. So we have the following that the side that lemaisa you have to know when you were you when why you're giving it. But it is much healthier if [clears throat] whenever you need a tallis godol, you ask the person, "Can you give it to me amanaslacha chazer?" Don't say I'm borrowing it, I will take it, that's a much better approach. But now let's apply this more more specifically. First of all, when [clears throat] someone needs a tallis godol for davening as we said, so you might take the easy way out and say, "You know what? I'm going to wear it. I'm not going to be kohen it. I'm not going to ask him. I'll just wear it it looks good." That's foolish. Because you can be davening without the mitzvah of tzitzis. Now lemaisa, [clears throat] it's better to get the mitzvah. Now how do you do that? So that we saw, you go over to someone that owns a tallis. Again, it's important [clears throat] today very many are mafnik, they don't like others wearing their tallis. Don't put him on the spot. >> [clears throat] >> Say, "Listen, I understand if not, but are you mafnik at all?" If his reaction is like, "Nah, don't worry." Take the tallis. Let him give it to you amanaslacha chazer. And then it's suscha. If he just [clears throat] says, "Can I borrow the tallis?" then you're running into prob. If you say I'm borrowing the tallis, you're running into a problem. You have to come on to the umdah. Now, the question is that bothered me personally and I still don't have a terrace. The rush is telling us a side or a fact. Let me explain. Ask the next 10 people, not big to me to come, next average people. Do you know that when someone borrows your tallis, he has to borrow it on an ashla hazah? So [clears throat] some people might look at you like you're confusing tallis with aluminum. But is that common knowledge? The rush is based on the side that when you need a tallis, you and the person know that you have to be kind with it with the king and government ashla hazah. Is that fact or totally in a mess? I don't know if that's the mess or not. If it's not, then you can't make an umdah if there's no umdah. So that's why again it's much better off to say I need a tallis l'shem mitzvah. Can you give it to me on an ashla hazah? And he might still have to get a little suspicious that you're being too aggressive. You want my tallis? I should give it to you? Tell him it's just for the hour or so. I'll give it back to you. But the maisa, the mister brewer does quote a task for a different reason. Task and Yamsul slimer for a different reason. They're not too happy with this umdah. In other words, you took it taco you took it to wear the tzitzis to wear the tallis. But who said the umdah is that he's giving them ashla hazah? So it's much healthier and much smarter to speak out the fairish. I would like to borrow your tallis. Can you give it to me on an ashla hazah? The person understands. Fine. Why is he giving me the ashla hazah? Why am I going to give you my tzitzis? Forget this. Forget the the Yamsul slimer has another time. Tzitzis is not a mitzvah chiyuvus. Like Korea. It's mitzkiyuvus. So if you can't do it, you can't do it. >> [clears throat] >> Now, the maisa, let's say you borrowed someone's tallis and you forgot to speak it out. Afterwards you go back to him. You shouldn't do it like that cuz Nerving says, "By the way, when you give me tallis, do you give me on an ashla hazah?" He goes, "Not me. Never heard of that." So you feel terrible. Is there any way to salvage your mitzvah and your bracha? So remember we always have the emergency hatch called the rush and toises that even if it's a beggar oola, but it's not worth any ain mitzvah oisa and you have that what to fall back onto. But why do things as a bidi avid? Again, the way the big bias says, "Say I'm Please give it to me. Don't lend it to me." Again, he might get a little suspicious. Explain it. It won't cost him much. Don't worry. What's possible kipsute? And this happens in the camp quite often that the bachams [clears throat] tzitzis tear, they have no other pair of tzitzis. We tell them borrow from a roommate and kabrusa, but make it on an ashla hazah. Don't forget. Otherwise, you don't have a mitzvah. Next group of questions is the well-known beloved tallis shul kahol. >> [clears throat] >> How did that fit into the big picture? Cuz the choyra, the fact that it belongs to a tzibur of 100 people makes it 100 people, but not me. So if tallis shul doesn't work, why is tallis kahol any better? Like I care, it should be worse. So the makara of tallis kahol is not out in the gemara. It's the It's the rishonim. The Mordechai in Orach Chaim siman taf kuf nun in the end of zach menachos. He's going on the concept that a beggar shul shutz vim is chiyuv in tzitzis. Now, let's say two people own one beggar. This is the old days when there was poverty, it was common. They share the tallis gadol. You dove shacharis, I dove mincha, and shabbos maariv. Tallis shul shutz vim is chiyuv in tzitzis. What's the assumption? Because I'm a ba'al em and you're a ba'al em. Zoch the Mordechai, therefore me can raya the tallis shul kahol to chiyuv in tzitzis. In other words, and you can make a bracha on tallis shul kahol. The shutz vim chiyuv and therefore mitzarich bracha. So the the achronim are saying something very briefly, but very very important that a tallis shul kahol is like a tallis of shutz vim, which means we all own it. So now it is in fact my tallis. Now, the maisa, how gufa? How does that work? If some some other people own it. So the teres has to be as long as you have a ba'al em, you're fine. So it's not any different than tallis shul shutz vim. And taco, the alacha is you make a bracha on a tallis shul shutz vim. The tallis shul shutz vim is like a cup. The problem is if you have a big kehilla, a few hundred members, so there's no way that each has a shava pruta of ba'al em. So how does it work? But I'll ask you a much more simple question. You usually dove in shul plenty. This shabbos there was a big storm, a lot of snow, you can't walk there. You dove in in shul almighty. You walk in and you say, "Can I have a tallis?" Sure, we have a special tallis for all our guests. Here it is. Question. If the hector of if the tour the mitzvah of tallis shul kahol is that you're a member and you have a ba'al em, you're not a member. You have no You have the moment to share. >> [clears throat] >> So this is probably why the Derech Chaim, who lived many years after Orach Chaim, in dinei tzitzis shul akam sim gimmel, he says you make a bracha on tallis shul kahol. And he gives a new reason. And the reason is that a tallis shul kahol was donated and is maintained because anybody that needs a tallis in this shul, we are user-friendly, you have it. So [clears throat] there about died to the choyri, the person donated it and the shul keeps it up, so you should have a tallis when you need it. Zoch to be alacha in the Maskil Shailah, why did the Derech Chaim have to add two rishonim? The rishonim say shutz vim. That's a good reason. Why do you need a new reason after an acheidis? Zoch to be alacha, beautiful. Because let's say you have a big kehilla and there's no shava pruta for each person, then it doesn't work. But if the svara is we want you to have it when you need it, so if you need it now, it is yours. Maybe kulai shiloy. Because it's now yours. Now, the second af kamina does not say in be alacha, but it's possible choyri that if you walk into a shul that you have no financial obligation to it, you're not a member, it wouldn't be a shutz vim, but it would be the same yisod. And taco, shuls I saw someone told me in a shul that he went into recently, there's lettering that was added to the tallis. It cost them a few dollars. Got them after writing it out. Muta l'varech al al tallis zeh. >> [clears throat] >> This is called tallis. It has it becomes a mamish a tallis that belongs to the one that uses it. So it could could be today Yankel and tomorrow Chaim. As long as they use it, it's theirs. I'm not saying you have to write that, but it's a good idea that when the person donates the tallis to the shul, he's giving it to whomever may concern. There's an automatic hakna from the ba'al em or the shul to the user and it becomes kulai shiloy. So this is the two af kaminas, the two reasons, but I must mention, which is obvious, that before you make a bracha on tallis shul kahol, make sure it is kosher. The be alacha in siman ches sim tes in his times, he writes about the tallis shul kahol, it's motzi ma'oid that it's not just seen better days, but it's not kosher. So you have to check, make sure it's kosher. We always advise people people start counting the strings. A much more efficient way is check by the the neck area by the hole where the where the strings go into it. If any of the any of them are are torn, then the tallis is passul cuz torn means a whole string, one of four, is passul. So check there. If there's problems there, then don't bother checking the bottom. But basically before you make a bracha, you have to make sure the tallis is kosher. Now, of course there's a beautiful warm some sefer. He says that in on zach the sukkah that it that was very common until mamish till recently, we still saw this that every kehilla had a dalad minim for sukkos because people couldn't afford a dalad minim. They had guests, whatever it is. So the sefer says that after a few days your esrog looks more like a map than an esrog. It's multi-colored. It's used. He said, "That's the That's the yoyfi. That's the hidur of the esrog." So about it. But when a tallis is passul, that's not a yoyfi. He was talking about something that's maybe lacking hidur. So the fact that it was used by by tens of Eden gives it the hidur. But at the end of the day, make sure the tallis is kosher. Again, the analogy of dalad of a tallis shul kahol by tzitzis is like a dalad the the dalad minim kahol. Every kehilla has a dalad minim. It becomes a built-in automatic matana on an ashla hazah. Now, we would wonder about a privately owned shul or privately owned yeshiva. Now, even though by this shul when the when the rav makes a ma'amar, he says, "It's your shul and we're there for you and and you know, everything wonderful." But who owns it financially? The rav or the whoever the yeshiva whoever owns the yeshiva. So then [clears throat] you don't have the regular dine of shutz vim. Just like the the poskim say that Magan Avraham says if you find an aveida in in a beis knesses, it doesn't belong to the beis knesses cuz ain chatza the beis knesses l'hegdish. You find an aveida in a shul, it doesn't belong to the shul. But a private shul, there is a chatza. The only reason why the the private person is not kind of the aveida is because it's chatza l'meiris. But be that as it may, I saw Rav Steinberg in chelek Avraham gimmel 98 and Rav Chaim Kanievsky on 23 both say regarding yeshiva or a shul that indeed if the maisa is privately owned, so then you don't have a shut this in it. But, and this is positive, the second reason that we mentioned that it's there for you, it's being it's an enough for the one that uses it. You don't have to be a member. You don't have to It could be even a private show. Once there's a user-friendly tallis gadol, you make a brocha on it and don't worry. Again, the best would be if the noddin would would donate it. I'm an ass. It's there for anybody who wants to have it. It's an enough I'm an ass a hazard. The next question is a biggest site for other myths as well, and that is someone is desperate. He comes to a shul. Everybody's davening. He's late enough as it is. He can't go home. The gabbai I don't He doesn't He can't find the gabbai or the shul's tallis. Can he go to the the bema or wherever the people keep their tallis size, take out the nicest tallis, and wear it? The bells start to ring for that one. Not only is this a a problem of tzitzit, this is what the says show show me that's gossamer. In other words, we say I'm using it, the I'll say you're stealing it. I come to me his cook a year he told me. And once his so one of the was playing with a toy that wasn't his. He goes, "Where did you get that from?" He does give fun in. So I promise you I said, "No I see tonight you also need to phone in." >> [clears throat] >> And then we conveniently repackage it. I didn't steal I found it. But that's great. But definitely we say I'm borrowing his tallis. I don't think so. I mean that's gossamer. You're not borrowing you're stealing. And this is a lot of so good morning good morning good morning. So the question is how do we deal with using someone else's tallis? This should be a problem besides that it's not tzitzit, it's gossamer. However, this is a rush and it's the same rush has three bumble you cited. So the hug that they tell us to have a very I feel below your idea. The minute we use someone else's tallis, who are you? Now the rush is so convinced it's mother, he can make a brocha. Now again, using something without using something that's not yours, you could make a brocha something if you hold that that ends the voice. But here he's saying you got to make a brocha because it becomes yours. How did it become yours? You're taking without resource. There's no dinner if he's unaware of this whole this whole idea. But some of them and this is he's paraphrasing more and and that's valid. The English the minute you know my money. In other words, with there's an that a person is happy when you do a myth with his efforts. And he said the only thing is make sure you put it back in the same place with the same heroes. You have to make sure cuz if you do it and you careless and it gets ruined or dirty, you might not be able to you know make it get to that soon. But here the rush has a double dish. You got to use it without resource. There's no issue. And it's so much yours you can make a brocha. Now it's not only the rush. The smack and similar in the eyes and the all say the same you say. You could take any tallis you want as long as you return it to where you found it and we assume makes it yours. Now the mice are we have four we shine in using this one of the clay. And this is the in C valid. Mother little tallis or the clay lamb. Over budget couple or some in much more palace. You have to make an you get to that soon. Now the question is how does it work? So one of my kind of find would say for a myth. In other words, if you say can I use your sweater without resource? That's your That's kind of cuz you don't have resource. I he would have let but he didn't. He doesn't know about it. But a myth a person is his heart is baked out. In other words, it it's mommies as if there's a conscious does I want you to do a myth with my efforts. That that's beautiful. No problem of I understand. But how does it work as far as the as far as the tzitzit? Much more if you take someone valid mean him on on the rest of you without resource. Then I understand that works cuz it's not cuz it's So now it doesn't have to be why not? But we're talking about tzitzit that has to be yours. There's no there's no person to make an he doesn't know about your borrowing of his tallis. So listen to this. Comes again the you've gotten on this I have no problem. The mice are it's not yours. I happen to be a our favorite emergency hatch. You are now an material of a voice. You're like an Easter my grandma. And therefore is my grandma from you could borrow it and you make a brocha even because that's what we said. So my grandma tell me when you borrow someone's tallis and he doesn't know about it using it as there's no cuz of I what's the head to make a myth only a voice. Now this is not satisfying but two good reasons at least. Number one, your myth is severely diminished. Cuz the voice is not as big as the voice. So you got to be a better investor and find a better myth. But more than that and this is the goddess of who paid attention to every nuance. You tell me the in C A that they say you got to make a brocha tallis tallis that you use as it makes a brocha. The holds like the bomb that that we don't say but you don't. Because the mice are you don't make a brocha on on my my grandma from the ocean. The hold you can't make a brocha if you are there. No don't make a brocha. So how could he all of a sudden here hold that you make a brocha and the voice? So this is the problem with this talk. And the is not but how does it become tzitzit? And talk to Mr. And see you download for a different reason says don't take it without resource and make a brocha. He says better take it. Don't have to worry about it to be and wear it just to look good. But you can't make a brocha when it's not yours. Especially the sheet. Now the mice are give it away on this and says, "So what do you tell me to do? Take the tallis just wear it to look nice so you won't look won't stick out and no problem." Cuz there is a problem. What's the head to touch someone else's tallis on this? You need to know my money not for sure until. So you got to have everything figured out to the last T. The mice are I I did think I hope it's correct that maybe we'll take the ice cream back in a heart a step further. Just like we said you a person who's sleeping in bed he has no idea you exist. You take his tallis. Oh, I'm so happy using my tallis. Do you know this eat? No. Do you know anything about it? No, but good enough. Why can we say there's an ice cream back in a heart that if anybody ever needs my tallis since he's only if it's his, I'm giving him an automatic I'm an ass a hazard. Now I didn't find this in the but the first time in C you'd and more specifically the in or camel he says as when you buy a tallis, you have a mind you know. That if the animal ever needs it, I'm giving it to him from now. I'm buying it for myself and for him. Whoa, beautiful obviously so. But if you say that approach, then I understand why it works. Because just like the makes it that there's no gossamer, I got show show me that's gossamer. Maybe the works for this as well. And I'm basically there is an automatic I hope that's correct. But we're not out of the woods yet. Because the whole assumption is still severely lacking one basic element. And that is what's the head to to use someone else's bag head anything for that matter? What's the head to I show show me that's gossamer. The terrorists is me to have a myth override that. Now here we say hello. The show on and I will see you in C and base who is from the deck. The from from from Iraq. The show all the commander and many others. But I'm showing how a universal this concern is. Question today in those days today even more so tough to pay above. Let's talk tallis. Is there a is there an people have no problem with you using their tallis? I mean sometimes a person you know, sweats a lot by davening. He puts tallis over his head at all times. And you know, people do I don't need his perspiration his lies his danger of you know, the whole of the whole of you. So the show on he says that maybe they were talking when a person left the tallis on the table unfolded he left it on uncared for no maybe. But if person put his tallis back in the tallis in the in the bema, what right you have to take without resource? He says the fair and then the harbor might feed him is there. And if then it's C if you'd base he comes back to it. He says the mice are yes yes I just get so show show me that's gossamer. And I'll say number back near to him and better down without a talis. That's how much the show shul can feel that the etzem hector is non-existent. Again, you know, think about it. It's not like you're wearing a sweater, it's going over his head, then it's a hat. Whatever the Whatever the concerns are, but a person is a little more sensitive, especially if the COVID. Some people are still very sensitive. The Ben Ish Chai says we see that people are makpid like how many makpid atzmi that I don't let The Shulchan Aruch says don't take someone else's so people are makpid. And Moshe got a different context. He talked about wearing a talis, carrying talis on Shabbos. What's the heter? Why is it a chorah? So Moshe Feinstein gets into the case in he says when is something mutar or nichlei if it's an umda gemura, that means it's not just the majority of people. It has to be all people. When is it an umda gemura that you can make it you can use someone else's thing when there's an umda gemura? He says, "No, if someone else's talis is on the table, maybe he lets, but using a talis stam is only mutar if you could say nobody minds." Now, I ask you, is the fact nobody minds? Say what you want, but this is a concern. The Tzitz Eliezer Siman Zayin he also proves from other poskim that there's no nichlei and he adds something maybe perhaps cute, but it's very penetrating. He says, "Why were Yidden zocheh to the mitzvah of tzitzis? Because Avraham said "I shouldn't because of the flag of Yidden." The Avraham was so careful in money matters, he didn't take a shoelace or even a string that wasn't his. So we got the mitzvah of tzitzis because of the heirus in Choshen Mishpat. So people imagine you're going to take someone else's talis without a resource. And what about Choshen Mishpat today? Doesn't exist. So this is why the might there are too many problems with borrowing a talis that without resource of the violin. Number one, first as we saw, is there really an umda? Maybe there's an oiskebaken umda, maybe. Number two, the gezal aspect which is even worse. And Mishna Berurah adds another point. Even if you hold it's mutar to use someone else's talis without resource, but if you could be mevarer, then first be mevarer. Now, in the old days, it was hard to mevarer, but today it's something called a cell phone. If the talis has someone's phone number, give him a call, ask him. Manasha. But the maiseh, that's why it's not advisable to use someone's talis without resource. Better look for a different talis, talis shel kol, ask from a from a yachid. Now, interestingly enough, using tefillin without resource is the same heter. Chasam Sofer says tefillin is a nichlei. I hope that's still true today, but there it's a much easier shaila. Cuz once by tefillin or any other mitzvah, you get get over the problem of of of gezal, there's no din of lachem, no din of chsusam. The real problem is by dal meaning the first day and by tzitzis there's always lachem or chsusam, whatever you call it. So that's why regarding a talis, there's a chashash gezal perhaps, definitely a chashash of mitzvah. Magain Avraham concedes it's only ainamitzvasoisa which is a pella. So that's why before you use someone else's talis, better get resource. The question we began with was someone made a bracha on a talis someone else's talis by mistake and now lemaiseh the question is was the bracha chal? Is it Does he have to make another bracha? Does he have to Can he Can he use his talis? So this is a simple case of talis people that took someone else's thing without resource. Is the gezal nichlei? We might say that there's nichlei. I hope that's correct. But why go on continue wearing it? If your talis is right there, take off to his talis, put it down, and take your talis. The question is is the bracha chal mafre as a bracha of a tola because he had no resource? That we'll say first of all me then we pasken you're allowed to use it. Number two, ainamitzvasoisa, the bracha is chal. So the bracha would not be levatola, it was chal on the talis. The question is you want to put on your own talis and you need a new bracha because you made a bracha on talis A, not talis B. Although you made a mistake, but you had no das for this talis. So you can make another bracha, you want to wait till someone else comes and makes a bracha, have might to you, Maiseh shel someone on the Yom Kippur, he realized during Shemoneh Esrei, he shouldn't have checked, but he realized during Shemoneh Esrei he's wearing someone else's talis. And he said he was in agony. I'm thinking the Yom Kippur, the most heilige hour of the year and now I have someone else's talis. So this we told him afterwards, of course, lemaiseh here there's a bigger heter than stam nichlei. Cuz this is this is the sugia of the the Bava Basra and it's Choshen Mishpat Siman Kuf Lamed Vav. The Shulchan Aruch says it's chalfu bigdeihem, if you swap with someone else's, so you're not allowed to use it without resource. Because you have his, he has yours. Unless we could assume that both know that it was it was exchanged, which is very common by tzitzis, and both have a vested interest that it should work. But how is it going to work? I have his, he has mine. Parents will make a mutual mechila and shalom Yisrael. And this I saw in the Birkas Habayis Siman Zayin Chaf is if they both don't mind that he use it until I get it back, we have a heter of poshit as if it was given over bematana amanah lechazara. So that was an easier shaila. A bachur in yeshiva asked me this shaila and it deserves to be clarified cuz it's a bigger side. He davens for the amud never his tachshanum and he has to daven every day shacharis. Every day shacharis he makes he puts on a talis gadol for an hour plus. He davens an hour, an hour and a quarter. Could he make a bracha on the talis? Now, of course we know a talis that that a bachur doesn't Most bachurim don't wear a talis gadol for davening. The Magen Avraham says it's a smachta in the pasuk "Gedolim ansich kishisha." Lemaiseh Sefardim do wear and Yekkes don't wear. I got a source, interestingly enough, the Levush Mordechai in the Teshuvah, he quotes an aidus from Rav Moshe that in their Beis Midrash the bachurim wore a talis. This is the chelek Beis Siman Beis Levush Mordechai. Talis with an atifa over the head. But okay, I'm not changing minhagim. But the bachur says, "I'm wearing a talis anyhow for an hour plus. Why shouldn't I make a bracha on it?" So lemaiseh, here we come to an interesting point that if you're wearing it lesheim tzibbur, there's more of a tzadd not to make a bracha. Now, this is not so poshit. Let me let me clarify this. We hope one day to go give a whole shiur about this because there's so many different scenarios. But the Magen Avraham and Sefer Chaim quotes Yanshutz Shlaima in Chulin Ches perek Ches Siman Nun Gimel, im laisha laalis the Torah or laavor lifnei hateiva, einam mevarer. Zogt the Magen Doctor Yanshutz Shlaima, do you make a bracha when it's lesheim mitzvah? When it's lesheim tzibbur, it could be a duchaning, an aliyah, a baal koreh, you don't make a bracha. You're doing it lesheim tzibbur. But it doesn't stop there. Aval haRosh the Halachos Ketanos mashma oivel lifnei hateiva mevarer, zogt the Magen Avraham. More so, the Magen Avraham quotes Piskei Tosfos in Menachos that if you mesachek betalis, you make a bracha on it. So lemaiseh, the whole concept of tzibbur being patur from a bracha is machlokes shnuya. Magen Avraham swore to the Yanshutz Shlaima, but found two rishonim not like the Yanshutz Shlaima. >> [clears throat] >> So now it's a whole different story. Now, but I collected, if you know, I collected a number of poskim from the Magen Avraham ad Rav Chaim Kanievsky, Rav Ovadia, that all say put it on lesheim mitzvah and also lesheim tzibbur and make a bracha. But we don't need more than the poskim acharonim, Mishna Berurah and Sefer Chaim Olam Alive quotes there this day you don't make a bracha on a for duchaning lemasal, a talis of an ish prati. But a talis shel kol, afile laisha rak laavor lifnei hateiva or laalis the Torah, the Torah, even for an aliyah, you make a bracha because the talis shel kol was given for you to use it in any way you need it. And if you want to make a bracha, it's the amanah lechazara. So it's not like we we're we we're ignoring minhag. The minhag seems to be in those days that he made a bracha when he did it lesheim mitzvah. Now, I am aware that that some poskim say don't make a bracha dafka. But here's the question. He's putting it on for an hour anyhow. So why can't he just have it lesheim mitzvah? Now, of course, he has to make sure the talis is kosher, number one. Number two, it's not layla. If you wear it for mincha when it's already safek layla, then don't make a bracha. When lemaiseh he should make an atifa, we'll soon see about that. And the ikkar is if he wants to lesheim mitzvah, that's much better. But lemaiseh, there is definitely a tzadd to say that even though a bachur typically does not wear a talis, again, that's a minhag which some question. We we don't wear talis as bachurim, but it's nothing no issur bedavka. Now, people quote or misquote, the Gemara says in Kiddushin Chaf Beis Lamed Beis that a bachur shelo nasah ishah lo hayah machaseh rosho. Afile talmid chacham. So how could this bachur make a bracha on the talis? He has to make an atifa, put towels over his head. We don't do that. But the American TV 76 The guy is not talking about a tallis gadol. He's talking about a a a hat that's sort of like a hat of like, you know, the some type of a special hat. So if it's done the same a brock doesn't wear it. But for a brock to wear an atifa on the tallis is some type of an issue. Now the guy from is is is talking a case where no one does it. But if he's wearing it anyhow for the hour plus and there's no you are up, they're making atifa just to be able to make the brock, then it doesn't seem to be a problem. Now what I what I do what I do think I'm sensitive to is when a brock gets up in the Shiva that nobody else makes a brock on the tallis. He gets up before he gets a liar and makes an atifa, makes a brock. He's in implying that, you know, I'm smarter than you and you're don't know what to do much. That's you are up. So if a brock were to get up when he when this brock and put a tallis on beraben, make a brock on it, maybe it's lacking maybe it's lacking you are up, maybe both. But if he wants to put it on in his room but seen up and make a brock on it and have a mitzvah for an hour plus, why not? Why should we take a mitzvah mitzvah? He's doing it anyhow. He's not doing something strange. You know, I I tell the brock the the the guy from Nash who was called cool a year cool cool a dick to get in. But he writes he makes a point of writing. He says should be very be be careful. So this is one of the letters. Don't do something that's mashona. Don't do something that's different. Because the person has something different, he's got he's leaving the misgaris of a seaboard. And he writes so my my way it So do do things that are differently we don't like to do. But if he's wearing a tallis anyhow, he's not sticking out and the there would be a maker, he can make a brock. Now someone told me but who said that not one of them give it a tallis to call for this brock that is making a brock on his on his tallis. I said why not? They're doing it to make a concern. Now whether it is the minute I don't know, but if someone asked me he wants to do it to have the extra of a mitzvah for the for the hour plus for the love of brock. In fact, the Mr. Brewer the guy from the in Simon C dollar he he has a problem. He says if you put on a tallis call just and you forgot to have to be able to do the mitzvah then you move out of the mitzvah. You have a mitzvah in your hands and you're not doing it. So how can we put on a tallis for an hour and have a mind just the same now? Maybe okay, if you do a you're not it's not a mitzvah. Can say. But why go through the bother all of that like for what reason? I don't know. I would think again not change a minute do it in a private area, but if you do make a brock, the fact that it is covered is enough to make a brock, don't forget. That's the and countless but if you're doing it mitzvah a he would be the brock would be a correct brock. Let me ask you an interesting riddle. How is it someone made a brock and and what's it tallis today and tomorrow it became possible? That doesn't sound reasonable. How could it become possible? A check bounces, how does a mitzvah bounce? I'll tell you very possible. So if you caught the base the following, if you borrow someone's tallis, he gave it to you I'm going to ask for a house there. There's one very important precondition. He has to get it back exactly the way he gave it. He doesn't need it to be dirty or torn. Let's say Mr. Brewer, let's say a little one of the one string torn off a part of a small piece of it. Still kosher. Like Mr. Brewer sorry, you can't give it back as it is. You have to either fix it or buy a new one, whatever it is or compensate him, whatever it is. So why? Because it's not and he says if you give it back as it is you're not the mitzvah. Now this is the guy from the guy from the guy from the guy from the guy from If you didn't give it back to him in a timely manner, whatever it is, you didn't keep the night even if it's an honest then you're not the mitzvah. As I stated Mr. Brewer So now this is a beautiful riddle. But my next question is this fellow never gets a bounce. So quickly he should compensate the person. Person and then it's fine. But here's the next question. Let's say the guy got torn. And he didn't think of compensating him. The mitzvah bounced. How about the brock? Does the brock also become a brock of a prayer? So Mr. Brewer doesn't make mention the word brock at all at all. The guy from says if you don't return it the way you found it, it's a you're not a mitzvah. It's a brock of a tall. Now could be the guy from the guy from the guy from the guy from There's a famous someone washed for bread. Now you only make a if you can have a a of bread going to the but a like most places. The person washed and thinking to have bread. He made a the bread didn't taste good. It was too old, whatever it is. He wants to change his mind, program like they say, have a regular meal, make a brock on the other foods but no bread. So but then the brock the guy from the guy from the guy from the So no. The guy from made the brock was the guy from the guy from the guy from so that's it. The guy from the guy from the guy from the guy from the guy from the guy from the guy from the And a similar question. Someone saw a man whatever it is took off a piece of a fresh up. And put on the side to burn it. Then they put the the rest of the dough in the oven. And they come out looking looking where's that little piece of a fresh up. So little Yossi smiling says ma I did this great thing. You left that piece of dough out of the dough. I quickly put it back in the dough before you made the braiding. So now you have more dough. And the mother shrieks. Now she has the whole the whole dough >> [clears throat] >> is also could be also the guy from the guy from the guy from the guy from if there's the actual a fresh up. I bottle but how much bottle in? 101 not not in right. So what do you do? So the guy from the guy from the guy from the guy from the guy from the guy from the guy What about the brock? You can make a new brock on the new batch. What about the old batch? There was no such a fresh up. There it it was. It was then the brock is it cannot become ice. Ice ice brock and the brock of a tall. So why should our case be different? The you made a brock. You wore a tallis. Unfortunately not careful it bounced. Why should the brock bounce? So could be the is in the other cases the mitzvah is not it's not us. If you don't follow so don't worry about it then. You follow so don't worry about it. But here it's just like the mitzvah maybe the brock is also if you have any more information, please tell me. Question. Someone gave you a tallis to wear to take to wear on the way to you accosted by two big give me that tallis, money or your life. You give him the tallis. Okay. What could you do? The question is are you to pay for that tallis? So this our Simon Simon has this he says technically if you made it into a house there then the is an honest you take a part of it. But in this case he was talking about you asked the guy to use it. He said you could use it. Who made up honest this which is very good. But you asked him to use it. What is your status? So you a soil is higher than soil. So even though we acknowledge that made an automatic so then it's automatic it's a honest like it says in in the spot. But this you made a soil. It doesn't override soil. It adds to soil a cooler. But you're still back to a regular ordinary soil and soil is higher than soil. I must leave you with one more soil. This is not soil. It's a story. It's dripping from an inspiration and and and the hero is in the guy from the guy from the guy from the guy from the guy from the guy from the guy from the in it's a guy from the guy from the guy from the guy from the guy from the guy from the guy from This guy from the guy from the guy from the guy from the guy from the guy from the guy So he told the guy from the guy from the guy from the guy from the guy from the It's in the you can take it out. It's mine. You could use it. Okay. No they did not bury it. They kept it there. Use it. It's kosher. Fine. Two days later the guy from the guy from the guy from the guy from the guy from the guy from the guy from the guy I was by a I was a and I was wearing my tallis. The guy from the guy from the guy from the guy from the guy The guy from the guy from gave it to that person and didn't say a word. The person was a Amora's type of assumed. And just put it on the table and left. And then I So I picked it up because of my tallis. Then I started having reservations. I gave it to Amonas la hazan. He never gave it back to me. It's not mine. I can't be out to me to teach it not to him. But then again, I told the Avia band to tell the father that person. He didn't tell it to him. But then again, I gave it to him but tonight. So who said the tonight doesn't work? So I decided I can't deal with this. I'm putting it in James. But then a relative came from Russia who needed tallis. I gave it to him. I was so that it never it never felt went into effect the Amonas la hazan. But then again, he said the fact that I gave it off he says, "Maybe takka there's no problem. You could wear it." Two days later, "Did you buy a new tallis yet?" He goes, "No." "Maybe you should." So he said, "But I make a brocha my tallis katan and amoti to tallis gadol." So the type says, "Every day you make a brocha tallis katan now? Just because it is shaila? It's also no good. Do me a favor. Buy a new tallis." So he have a more Amonas la hazan that would EVEN PREVENT THE BAYLON from being yoitza because it didn't come to fruition. So think about that. I got to talk to you all. Shame to tell you to share the mission today's share. I like to have you guys close the sponsor in the share. Please call the agency at 218-851-8651 or email [email protected]. The West Side today the shul is having the annual appeal with the doctor code of the sponsor that the join with the code and carry it safe and it's so Russia code of show taste you can see in the hallway. Please be my staff by your phone and I bought this tire limit of tire of the code. The 90 minute class is mostly in the office of the self. You can tell me the smell of the office of the yard of tire of the yard. Hey. I would say now the share is over. We're going to borrow some time for the seeking of the borrowed tallis. Just let's let's discuss what we learned today by the same tallis gadol and a tallis katan has to be We'll say the word lahem a borrowed term but has to be yours. That's the given. There's no on the tallis shula to lamid. We did speak about a case which is very negative. If a person is positive from tallis from tzitzis on a tallis shula and he puts it on anyhow and can't make a brocha. So then we had it's an Amonas la hazan and he can say the tivonu. But in in essence, a beggar that doesn't have tzitzis Amonas la frag that's shula is not in tzitzis with and that's why the perm costume you can wear the tuxedo without tzitzis because that's the of either she shula or shiris or both. Now we did also saw that a borrowed tallis mitzu yet says which means a regular tallis katan or gadol. So then not only are you allowed to wear it but you can make a brocha. I it's not yours. There's an Amonas la hazan that he gave it to Amonas la hazan. So you have to take care of it very carefully and return it the way you got it. If he gave it to you stam as a malbus to wear and you decide to wear it mitzvah or he gave it to you for purposes and you want to wear it mitzvah. If there's no that he know that you want to wear it mitzvah, then it doesn't work and then you can't make a brocha. That will be a regular tallis shula. You need You need a tallis at any time tallis gadol or katan. First of all, make sure the person out of my phone that's obvious and then ask him can I please give it to me with the Amonas la hazan. Make it a canyon on both ends and give it back to him and he's takka coin it because now it is his. If there's a I think if today people know this automatic, so that's why it's best to speak out with various tallis katan. Again, you want to borrow someone's tallis katan or gadol. I'm you're giving it to me on a on a Amonas la hazan condition. A shul's tallis has two miles. Number one, it's a so it is yours and number two, it's given just for you to be that I'm an automatic Amonas la hazan. That's why in a that's very big and you don't have a service. A guest who's not part of the or as we we we said also the in any other situation that it doesn't work the concept of automatic. But if it was given but tonight originally that it should be there for someone else, a rather it works even though you're not part of that or you're not you don't have a in this tallis at all. A shul that a shul that has the tallis has to be kosher. Check make sure it's kosher. A privately owned shul or shiva. They might not be a but we have the second that is an and it was given. Niche lay. The English maybe it's a minor takes away show show me that. But we had a problem how to take away the concern of we hope there's such an Amonas la hazan that he has a back in hearts to give it to anybody who needs it. I hope that's correct. But definitely at the main problem is people are not putting on tallis not that someone should not wear without resource. So I would definitely be wary about borrowing a tallis without resource. Better take a tallis from a shul or a yard. If you took the wrong tallis or you swapped tallises, the brocha was but try to get your own back. But until you get your back to yourself, we have a Amonas la hazan with our mitzvah. A Amonas la hazan as we said that the the the brocha who wants to wear Anybody wants to wear a tallis the same mitzvah besides the same weight have a mind to make a brocha, have a mind it should be the same mitzvah, make an and then the brocha is out. I forgot to mention when someone wears a tallis at night must have a or on Yom Kippur. What's the best tallis to wear? So spells this out and so spells out the tallis katan now. Don't take your own tallis because it might be because it's a beggar you're in the night. Don't even take the tallis tallis. Take the tallis tallis. And this way it's a this way I'm sorry take So take a someone else's tallis and then it's a validation. The question what we mentioned if someone damaged the tallis, he has to pay for it because it's a and we left with this shaila about if the brocha is also the when he did not make an out of it.