The Astounding Practice of Rav Chaim Brisker of When He Uncovered His Head From His Talis

this Torah class is brought to you by Torah anytime.com okay good morning everyone uh today we're going to sort of dig into a subject that we spoke out in general last week today's share is dedicated by our good friend Robert in honor of and okay the uh sh brought in it is correct to cover your head with the Talis from the beginning of until the end it brings to fear of God put the tal on top of the but it should not completely cover the the correct thing is the correct thing is keep the Y on the head during daving even though you're covering your head with the Talis okay so we're going to talk about the subject of covering one's head with the Talis during uh daving there the question is what does yeah what does what does m mean what does that mean does he mean da the whole prayer the whole daving or does he only mean so um please take one of each take one of each of these papers um we know that uh if we look around we see various practices in terms of when people cover their head in a Talis some only cover their head for sh some only cover their body and they don't cover their head some cover their head for the entire daving so what is the correct practice so listen carefully I want to read to you the L of the tour the tourah says you cover your head so that your head should not be so the question is what does the Torah mean you should cover your head so that your head is not uncovered I mean isn't that obvious you should cover your head so your head is not uncovered you mean you can never uncover your head so the B learns the tour that what the tour means is it doesn't mean to say cover your head with the Talis so that your head is not because that has nothing to do with the MIT and what the guy was walking around until now so what the Torah means says is even though your head is already covered with the yaka the D of is to put a handkerchief or a Talis over their head for says you should cover your head with thealis so your head is not completely uncovered what does that mean uncovered it is covered so it's not uncovered from being completely covered okay so what is saying that we're talking about someone who's already wearing a y and is to cover your head even further thanak okay which might be the basis of who they have a certain of double covering it may come from this language of that even even though your head is covered with a yam but is to make an additional cover now that won't explain why they would cover their head for a this is specifically this specifically however the ra disagrees with understanding of the Torah and he says no the Torah means you don't have to wear a yaka everybody knows Y is not so it's talking about somebody who was walking around without a yamaka it's only to and therefore the says when it come therefore the Tor says but if you're going to make a on the Talis you have to make sure your head is covered but there's no idea of a double cover because wearing a y is not now you should know that we and it's because and that's something because ashkanazi countries the Gentiles went out their way to uncover their head we have to cover our head it's the T says it's it's for not for without that there's no requirement says the Rama okay but comesa and theaba says all the time yeah and so doesn't have something on that you want to know about work right yeah there might be basis for that if necessary okay now the brings regarding throughout the whole He quotes the these are notes of Mah and then they throw it behind them and about them it says and the Mena very modest people as they keep their head covered with a Talis so long as the Talis is on them now okay that's what the B says comes the rambam and the rambam says the of wise men and their students is they should not they don't dve in unless they're wrapped up and it's now this is but says the codifies that you should wrap yourself in your garment the way you would appear in front of an ort person so that's what we mentioned that back in the day if they would go in front of an important person they would wear a cloak on top of their shirt they would wear a jacket on top of their shirt they would wear a hat if you want to know what should I wear when I D if you have an important business meeting whatever you'd wear to an important business meeting is what you should wear for ding okay but here's the the the interesting point I wanted to show you now I have a safer here for from uh say for IM bar IM bar was written by Rabbi bar Simon who is and uh I grew up in the same neighborhood where he did so I would say I'm uh uh a friend of his if I could say that maybe a talet of his in some ways he brings from the safer that composed about that the opinion of is you need to cover your head by okay so technically speaking does your head have to be covered inal it's not it's Pious practice however R says from that for all you should keep your head covered because in the it's brought that they argue or not and they ask and what's the if it's the would be for whether you have to have your head covered in aalis or not now according to this opinion it would come out that you need to cover your head for bar how do we not know what for standing purposes why would you have to cover your head when you're standing saying what's the difference between oh maybe that's another Naina that that is another na but another Naina is whether you have to wrap yourself in a Talis so according to this opinion that um you have to wrap your head because it's then when it come out you have to have your head covered for bar you have to have your head covered for for Kadesh for kadus forra right now most people are not covering their head for you see people covering their head even people who who cover their head for the whole doing their head is not covered for according to this you'd have to have your head covered for Kadesh at the end of Al every time there's a Kadesh you'd have to cover your head but that's how RAB Sal understands the din of I see that they cover their head other words but you mean because I'm passive I mean we need 10 people for that so should you not have your head covered according to that now I don't even know if I don't know if they did cover their head this opinion cover their head but that's a certain sh that the of is for I will say in any of that or any of the that that's the that it's a we don't find such a thing okay but this was what most interesting to me I mentioned that oura they cover their head for they keep it covered until the end of and then it's done you're done then maybe they put it back on for kadus and then maybe they put it back on for ALU by the way you know ALU is very important whenever the says ALU you got to stop drop and alen doesn't matter what you're doing whatever you're doing you have to say ALU together with the if the says Ash you have to say Ash with them the says ALU you have to say ALU with them says sh you need to say sh with them has a a major you ready for this you say I should bring this going to bring the that you need to say with is why because how could it be that is being and you're not going to be with them but what if theor is daving at 9:00 a.m. and when they get up to krishma they're not being after they're just saying you don't have to say sh with them now this morning we went faster than we usually went we usually go why because the mug AB man was 850 so we at least we wanted to start the shma before the M okay now I want to share with this this is a Whopper okay look you have it on the sheet a king sends his proclamation to the country so what do the people do they stand up they uncover their heads they read it is my Proclamation I'm not going to bother you more than a regular King a reg King you have to put on a hat to read his Proclamation you don't have to put on a hat to read his Proclamation so I'm not going to bother you I don't require you to stand by I don't require to uncover your head a regular King when he sends a proclamation the people are required to uncover their heads and they're required to stand I don't require you not to stand and not to uncover your heads you could say sh however you want so the T the says that from here we see that you don't have to cover your head at the time of and that means covering your head is only mid but we who are is to cover our heads throughout what the medish means it's not needed to cover your head especially in a Talis if you already have a y meaning the med is saying there's you don't need so brings that the Min of the gra bris you heard brisar if you go home today and your wife said what did you learn you said we learned the real stuff the gra the was he did not cover his head until like a minut he did not cover his head until bar he covered his head with bar and right right before he got to sh he uncovered his head the gra uncovered his head before sh and he kept it uncovered until sh and then he covered it again he was not to have because implies there no how you say opposite yeah when I when I went to me a cowboy had a hat on you know it's not Respect by by the let's say by the baseball game they used to have something called the baseball and when we were kids you go to baseb there were rashash shivas at the baseball game you know now noways you're not what's baseball I don't even know what it is but um by the national anthem you have to take off your hat you know the biggest a in the world is to keep the Hat on you can't keep a hat on by a national anthem so by by the nations of the world they dka take off the hand s of respect which is why we were but you see from the medis there seems to be an indication that you don't need specifically for sh doesn't want to bother us for sh which would come out like this let's say a person is Mo to wear hat by ding let's say and they D they D before this man let's say Friday night Friday night you all know you have to repeat sh when you get home yeah everybody knows that that Friday night you di a they say three Paras you got to repeat all three at night let's say you ordinarily DAV with a hat so do you should you put your hat on to say according to the med no maybe you could do it you need to do it for but not sh sh has no such requirement of okay this was theis I'll the med okay so R Simon brings from one of his R I think he just passed away yeah he asked on the grass to remove the Talis at the time of kishma he says it's it's true the says is not to be during but he wasn't to take it off you know it's one thing you want to say the is not to cover our heads in a Talis for kishma but he also wasn't to remove it would D remove it I mean it sounds unusual where hasem says you're not required to have a higher level of respect for oh really great I'll remove it right away sounds a little bit absurd so explains the meaning of the says I wonder I wonder could you bring a please yeah it says you should we on the outside thank you let's see rud wow um where else do we have this you hear that that's that maybe because since he's and wanted to how do we know because it says try to he taught of of yeah you see okay um so the question is he says you should wear it on the outside why because it says says meaning the gar comes out that you don't have to have the uncovered says the it's better to but you hear the nowadays we cover the ofin and we're not Z here to have it uncovered but it's not correct so what does the hold that it's is going on the but for whatever reason we're not for that says you could say maybe we're not that or other because because there's a listen carefully by other parts of daving where you're supposed to have your head covered so there's an imperative to have your head UNC covered so we're not mid to uncover the but by where is not to cover our head then we shouldn't uncover our head because there's a that the the should be apparent especially in light of the fact that is very connected to sh so this is another in the it's not the oh the says that is not to cover our head for sh okay so let's quickly uncover it the is no there's a specific to be the rest of there's also to cover your head but by where there's there's no to cover your head then we should be to show the and R also that's so you're saying maybe the reason why the reason why the gra didn't un didn't cover her head cover his head until is because since you don't have to it's better not to I mean according to this it could be that in the in the yeshivas where they don't it's not Al Kal not Al it's a to be because not to her hat because you might forget and put it on the baving at a time that the cas even though the they balance it in between the but you don't see the caser right you don't see the caser yeah so it come out that there's at least the the Miss doesn't bring this down so that's interesting these are different uh Han guys you don't have to wear Talus by benching you want know do you should you wear a hat by benching technically is not is something you need for so benching would not be people it's still not it's still not a why wearing a hat because a double cover why why does who wear a hat why do people were hat today you want know the says that you should be just like you are for so so should be like so it would come out that you probably should put on a jacket because you would wear a jacket for an important business meeting if you wear a hat for you should wear a hat for benching but we spoke out last week nowadays it's not really in Vogue to go around in a hat so then you brought out the point that dou okay so last week I said double covering does not have a real Source in it's more a Minh based on the B that besides their y they cover yeah would it be Min to to have a full covering overhead for it would be could you say it's a absolute it's hard to make that case also discuss the positioning of the the the okay so that so that so that the said like this that it should sort of you don't know bet the head covering on the should be partially covering it partially covering it partially not covering it mid ideally yeah here here's ideally the should be out you don't cover the the would be but the says okay I tell you something on because it's already wait where's the source where's the source for whatever you do in front of important person uh you you have to do when you do in front of where does it say that for for anything whatever specifically does not have a the that whatever you do in front of a king that's what you should do in front of is that like a or something the how do we know is to make that connection oh he made the you're standing in front of a king right you're standing in front of a king um where did we have SAR who said the L of s where where did I read that um where did I have the lon of of s we we read it this morning um in the which is a shirt or a Schreck in pajamas sh yeah you've just experienced another Torah class brought to you by Torah anytime.com