The 4 Empires, Yishmael, & the Coming of Mashiach

this Torah class is brought to you by Torah anytime.com say we're about to embark on a major topic um and this is going to be a topic that we'll be spending at least the next two maybe even three weeks on and it's a really P very powerful and very relevant contemporary issue and hope it should be very relevant because ultimately this is a topic that should lead up to theia and it's a very appropriate topic during the three weeks when we're mning the and also relevant this yours you could have um this is a topic that relevant to the three weeks and also to this week's par in particular the par begins these are the journeys the when they left and they left and the question is and this is addressed by the of Mayor who's the rebi of the grew up as a In The House of the and the writes the following he wants to know what do you mean you're kidding me left really I didn't know that we have to tell you the Tor has to say left it only says the words Z has a c 50 times the 50 times in the in in the besides all the other variables of we know every Jew I don't care you have to tell me now by the way these are the M they left really kidding left of course they left what of you know when they're leaving it talk but now in they left and also they left really that's also you know big they left why does it have to say this so these M are not just you know they went from here to here R right from here from A to B B to C C to D there it's a remes it's a remz to the various travels and travails that experience throughout the the G it's a rem to the different stops and camps we made along the way will go into we find in the med if would have taken us out of without any human intervention at all we know it was but still they sered as some they served the function in the say did the they did the physical G but whatever it is they played a role in the G but if Hashem himself would have done the job that would have been final it would have been the they would never have been since human beings played a role in it just like the human beings are transitory right human beings are temporary so too the eventually came to an end this is the these are the these are the that we went through these are Thea the travails why did we go through because when we left it wasn't only it was since it was that's why we had in other words these are the that we went through why because when we left it was a temporary why was it a temporary because M and Aon played a role because they played a role it was not final it was temporary that's but that's how it happened and if that's how it happened it wasn't final right was temporary that's the same thing that we say that why why not take because if he would have taken in they would have left the same thing over here wanted it in such a way that do have to go or we have one of the Alum says the reason why why why could build the if he would have built never would have been able to be destroyed okay says was he was uh lived in cck in the times of the who's the B the he says if is a to the we know primarily we have how many four we have Ed we have M we have we have y says the four the the four opening words of is a remes not just to G in general it's a remes to the four G says the we had to go into the of the but says even further what's the right what's the trop right take a look you have a a what does a mean what a thank you thank you quick [Laughter] service right what does mean we left we were chased out we were placed the which ones that's the TRU that's the TRU um I don't I'm not sure the the TR itself is I don't know I don't know so he says therefore the the TR on these words who [Music] right you want to do you want to do a but whatever whatever the tune ISS and forward and then this is called is like this one from this one and one no that's called this is called it will go they will be chased out where will they put they'll be placed one of the he points out that right the says right the P says M wrote their comings their goings based on the name of Hashem to indicate that all of the comings and goings of are that's and the 42 different locations says to 42 different stops had to make throughout their history take a look from Saras from France to Spain from Spain to and so forth so in other words this whole par is a rem to the destiny of and the gas why because they left where do they have to go what we would like to try to explain is why in the of is the order that's not the order that's not the order Ed is last it should be b m yed why is it out of order then then then we start with number four right then we go to number two then we go to number one then we go to number three what's Okay so this whole inan the whole of the this is a major Topic in it's not just you know it happens to be that you know we left M and then we we went into Gus and after the fact let's count up how how many goison do we have to go through oh four this was already predicted from beforehand not just from the time ofu this was already predicted when the world was created we find in theous look at number four this is the interprets referring to the refers to reference refers to why was during was in the times of right we find the L of Darkness this refers to the Greeks they darken the eyes of they right on the Horn of an ax that you have no she in the god of what is so in other words refers to Y what is the is the great Abyss right no end which gas is described as no end right the G we're in today this is the evil empire it cannot be investigated we can't get to the bottom it's like a bottomless pit then what happens what is the that hovers so this the concept of the it's not just happens to be we went through four this was predicted beforehand from the time of the creation of the world the very first day of creation immediately the very first moment of creation the concept of the was already foreseen and again it's repeated to by right the says four so says the med is like we find he got filled with anger similar to and so forth so we see we see that the concept of not something that we have okay they different different exactly the order and who's what but any event what we're seeing is that this was something that was predicted from the very beginning of the world's creation already foreseen and told to Abu okay so we're going to address a major question and the question is that it would seem that there is a world power that is still very much uh force to reckon with even today that is not mentioned as one of the you have a mention of Babylonians you have a mention ofs the Persia right thees M you have a mention of the Greeks you have a mention of Rome what happened to the Arabs what happened to you you he didn't make the list why didn't he make the list he's not mean enough he didn't kill enough people but he he's our friend he a loser he's not our friend he's certainly a very strong power today you can make the case most powerful force in the world either you know the Western world is why did is get left off the list you know he didn't make it he he lost a seat on the bus I'm sure yma would have been very proud if he would be able to read in the midash that he's he's on the list you yeah why talking is saying that you tell me I don't know I I read somewhere and it says why is is not on the list right they're not the Babylonians they're not the Persians they're not the Greeks they're not the Romans yeah so why aren't they a why aren't they a what is the definition of a right we have four malos what's the how does one become a malus right when you're registering you know you call up the uh the uh government office you know I'm applying to the a Mal what what do you have to do what do you have to write on the form you know we uh we wear a certain type of crown we kill a certain number you know what what do they have to do that's why who doesn't they don't believe in it believe that the religious leader is their leader it's not a Mal religious Mal an Empire Greek Greece was religious they didn't have any religion [Music] so let's see this is a question that the mar addresses the theah when he talks about the concept of the he wants to know what happened to why is not on the list says there are some people who ask where's they are a powerful and awesome let us we're going to do things a little bit differently today let us skip a little bit to AAR this is uh on your sheets we're going to 30 number 31 number 31 okay good Cas right it's question that you know Jew should know the answer to why is not on the list let's go to this is talking about before the G the gar says there's a there's going to be a man by the name of G why his parents called him that I don't know he called he's the king of mag and he's going to lead the nations in war against Kel the nations are going to to be defeated and Hashem is going to judge all the nations of the world now that here's where the gar kicks it look at number 31 is going to take a he's going to put it in his lap he's gonna say anyone who learned come get your reward right so everyone is going to come all of a sudden all the gather right the Italians the Chinese Japanese the eskimos the Indians they all gather together the Africans everyone Norwegians they all wait online to get reward from for learning wait a second don't gather to me you know hazard a mixed up make a line let every nation and its leaders come separately it says gather and refers to like it says so then the what do you mean why does want the nations of the world to come together in an orderly fashion when Hashem can scan them immediately needs them to stand online well hasem can't deal with you know confusion it's going to be too confusing what does this mean is there confusion forem so says it's not for Hashem it's for them because Hashem wants each Nation to hear what he's going to tell them says wants the nations of the world to hear what he has to say who comes first why Ed says the because they're they're Romans are people right they have nice shoes you know with this with the straps they wear those Romans are they could kill a lion who know people how do we know because it says about them they will devour the land they will trample the land they will crumble the land the Romans are people so they go first this refers to Rome their influence has emerged throughout the world so the ask okay very nice how do you know a person comes first says we know the when judges a king and first judges a king and why doesm first judge the king either because it's not the king should wait outside or because Hashem wants to judge the king before he gets angry from all the of the general people okay two lines from the bot what do you mean you learned Tyra you learn Tyra you ever learned in K you Roman when did you learn which which whicha did you learn in which but thear says hasem says whoever learned Tyra will get reward so they came online soem said what Tyra did you learn which did you learn in you like brisk where' you go we made many roads many marketplaces we made bathes we amassed wealth who' we do it for you know why we made stores so that Jews should buy cheese danishes to learn in KY why did we buy bath houses so that Jews should be able to take a shower and when they learn in KY you know they're comfortable and why do we have make money we had money for Jews to learn you're fools you did it for yourself you did it for yourself you made the stores to be you made the bath houses to to for your leisure you're talking to me about money the money Belongs to Me by the way the used to point out doesn't say you're wrong you didn't do it for you didn't didn't say no the stores are not for is the money is not for is the bath houses are not for is they are for cl is it's just you because you didn't do it for that but everything the does every street they pave every store they build it's all for us to learn T just that's not what they're doing it for they're not for that Hashem doesn't say you're wrong Hashem just says you're okay by the way the bris also says the same thing everything else else right right so says says you have any there anyone there who the Romans walk out dejected they're despondent they're depressed we lost the case we're not getting who comes next after the Romans leave who walks in the good old Persians my why the Persians next because in terms of first you have the Romans then you have the Persians right the Persians they have nice rugs right they're very the Persians are people right pers what well we'll see we'll see we'll see how we know Persians it says and behold there's a second animal after Danel saw the lion he saw a bear they're similar to a beer these are the Persians why Persians are called like beers why are Persians like beers they eat and drink like beers this is the not the Jewish ones right the Persians eat and drink like the beers and they're full of fat like a beer and they have long hair like a beer and they you know they they ever see a beer in his cage right it's what's it called it Paces back and forth Persians you know they Pace back and forth always you also learned what's your what do you want what do you want Haru we built lots of bridges we made lots of Wars we conquered cities we made Wars by the way what's that talking about when did the Persians ever make Wars what they didn't mention they help us build we'll see we'll get to that what when did the Persians ever conquer cities and make Wars what the Persians are known for making wars did you learn Torah he didn't ask did you build Bridges to learn Torah he never everything we did [Music] was you made bridges for taxes you conquered cities to to bring people into your service you made Wars no God says you don't make Wars I make Wars Hashem says hash you have any in Persia you have any who give no says when Persia saw that Rome did not win the case right the Romans went in God said you learn anything the Romans said yeah we built the houses for Jews to learn Torah and God said oh come on you you made it for yourself so why would the Persians think they would fear any better right what happened the Romans went into the the court case God found them guilty so the persans said we'll give it a try what were the Persians thinking why would why did they think they would fear any better than the Romans says the army they said like this the Persians said the Persians are very smart they said the Romans destroyed the bdash we built the and then says the Every Nation goes in get ah so now the ask why would every subsequent Nation keep on going in why don't they learn the lesson from the earlier ones once they saw that the earlier Nations that didn't help why did the next Nation go in they thought that the earlier people they subjugated the Jews now here's the key ready this is mish half love a fell asked the gamar we said the Romans go in first the Persians go next CU what does it mean to be what does it mean to be Nation what do you have to do you wear a nice suit it helps but that's what the means says the and will last until M come Rome and Persia will last till messia comes Persia now one second Rome I have no problem with that the Western World right they're The Descendants America and all the western western civilization are descendants of Rome but Persia will last till Messiah comes I mean come on Persian Empire is long gone long gone if you want anything about the Persian Empire you know you could go to Iran you'll see in a museum there's no Persian Empire today you know been conquered so many times there's no there's no Remnant even of Persia so what's talking about they'll last until mhia comes it's not true it's not true so let's see the mar again back to the question why is you not on the list of the so the the mar says two amazing things just back to number six back to back to number six right back to the question the where is there the answer is like this the definition of a are those who accept royalty from the Supreme holy ones what's this talking about and say for Daniel you're tells Dani that they're going to be four nations that will accept the ofad the Supreme holy ones in other words they are taking our Mal the Mal CL was supposed to have the royalty of Cl these Mal coopt that M they steal it they steal it in other words their reign their power is our power but they've monopolized it they've taken it they've stolen it they inherit the their power they in other words they take our power when you see the power of we have to know that's the power of but they took it if we would be strong in other words in the time of there were no why because the Mal belongs to us but the could take it anytime you see the they taking the of they're not taking our they have their independent source of what is the independent source of the strength of does not come from God God gave separate why because he's a descendant of and said you know what you want to live I'll listen to you the other Mal if they are strong that means we're weak they've taken they've sucked out every that we have and they've taken it for themselves has their own independent has its own independent source and we're the four is not discussing this type of rain when we mention the we only mentioned the four that have usurped and when comes we will gain our back from them says the furthermore as good of an answer as that was and let's just momentarily take a little break about that what's the idea the idea the maral is saying is that when that Ed has when M has when y has when when when um when has when R has they've taken our so that means there's a seesaw relationship that's why the gar says if somebody says you sh is built and keria is built up don't believe them it's impossible if someone says you shalam is destroyed and cesaria is built up believe it if someone says cesaria is destroy believe them why because the Jews and the Romans cannot both have power at the same time why because it's one source of power it's our power if we have it it's ours if they have it they've stolen it from us but we don't find such relationship with is that we both can't be powerful at the same time we could both be powerful at the same time the Jews and the Arabs could both be powerful we could both not be powerful the strength of the Arabs is not connected in any way with the respective strength of we only find that by the Because by the they have usurped our points out in number seven this is a piece that he writes he writes his following he says explains we find we find there's like a SE relationship when we're up they're down when they're up we're down right if someone says they're both built we don't find such a relationship there is no there's no connection between the success ofma and the failure of K so we could both be successful you could both not be successful they are not dependent on each other okay yeah there's a connection there's a connection we'll have our when we have the and and and thereby ASA will be weak but we both can't be strong at the same time there is a seesaw relationship there's a cyclical relationship between and the Not So with has not derived this from from says the I'm G to give you a better answer I'm going to give you a better answer why yes is not on the list number six at the end of the piece five lines for is part of the second the Persians the Arabs the Muslims are part of the Persians they are the second so why are we calling them Persians should be the when hasem spoke to Danel he didn't say specifically it's going to be the Persians the general category is the Persians but included in the general category of the Persians are the is it's a very frightening thing because that explains very clearly how we understand the says which are the two most Rome and Paras so we asked Paras Persians are one gun they're long gone but the answer is the moral has told us that Paras are not only the Persians Paras is a general category that includes and certainly we know till today the two that have lasted until the end of time are Rome and Paras and Paras which one is most the said who came in first Rome Ed who's number two now we understand what's the we're not giving Theus in chronological order we're giving it in order of Al r m m includes M they're number two according to then between B and Y we know from B was considered in a way the most of them all they were compared to the lion they were compared to the gold right Daniel had two visions he saw for B was a lion B was the gold so perhaps it's not just saying you know some halfhazard remes but in order of first comes Ed then comes M then comes B then comes CL okay we're just beginning we find something very very interesting part of yeah is a an an an yeah they're a branch we have a gamar we have a gamar in Yuma we have a gar Yuma so now we know they going to be two um two malos that last till M Rome and is now we learned we learned the told us that when comes at the end the are going to revert back to CL by the way just look very quickly at number 39 the Mar in another place in his commentary he says like this the ask why are Rome and Persia the Two Nations that go first into hasem you have to understand the general world is included under the umbrella the whole world really the mar says falls under the umbrella of Rome and right you can't get more Ms than that the Persians the Roman the Persians and the Arabs are all one now we understand what argument did the Persians say the Persians said we conquered a lot of cities we made a lot of Wars he said what Persians don't make Wars yeah but the Arabs make Wars that's the that's the distinguishing uh feature of the Arabs the Persians and the Arabs are have a connection them all the various different segments of they're all under one umbrella any Nations that are connected they're all like one says why does it have to be that these two Mal will struggle till the end of time because only that deres from hasem could be but the there always have to be a they can never be one one General category of G they always have to be broken down into two but this is a this is very amazing so we know until Mia comes have Rome who is going to beat who before Mia comes in other words in other words the concept of of the is they have AR they've usurped Aras right B took it when the when the Babylonians destroyed the B they took then the then the Persians defeated the the Babylonians they took that AR then the Greeks took AR who who's going to be the last Nation to stand before the so look in the we have some say Persians sense the Romans very good look at this right says number the Western Rome will fall into the hands of the Persians listen to the coun who has devised regard regarding his thoughts that he planned and the descendants of the residents of was the grandson of as if they are not dragged off by the youngest of sheep basically the P says God is saying that the will be dragged off by the youngest of sheep will they not destroy their residences so we see from here Ed will be destroyed in the end of days how do you know how do you know this the youngest of sheep are the Persians will destroy Rome what are you going to tell me because there's another P that calls the Persians sheep the Persians are called Sheep we know the Greeks are also called so maybe it's not the Persians that will defeat Rome maybe it's the Greeks he go is when went up he said over to one of the r this this Kasha number 30 only someone who doesn't know the meaning of this P would ever ask aasha on rebi again Reb's opinion is Persia will defeat Rome because anyone who knows anything about anything would know had son what does it mean the youngest of sheep the youngest of the brothers we know ye had many sons the youngest son of yees was Tas Tas is Persia so what does it mean Rome will be defeated by the youngest of Brothers who's the youngest of y's Sons Persia so we see from here Rome will be defeated by the youngest of Brothers Who's That Persia so the gamar says at the end of days there going to be a big boxing match between Rome and Persia between the Western world and the Arab world who's going to win ding ding ding Arabs win Arabs that's what re's opinion why AR H why number one why aren't they number one we'll see that's Reb's opinion now listen to this listen to this he agrees that so far that was opinion of reab says again again according to the mar are the Arabs Rome the Western World will fall into the hands of the Arabs listen to this one it's a who built the first B mikdash who destroyed the first B mdash who built the second M mikdash for us Persians who destroyed ited Rome so listen to this oh that's that's the argument listen to the the the Jews built the first bikash and the Babylonians destroyed it who took over from the Babylonians the Persians what do we see from here the Persians are able to defeat the Destroyers the Persians could defeat the Destroyers that the Persians built and the Romans destroyed certainly the Romans will be able to defeat the Persians excuse me pers to defeat the Romans the Persian be able to defeat the Romans in other words if the the Persians could defeat the Destroyers of the first bdash certainly they'll defeat the Destroyers of the second BD because they built it that's the opinion of RAB HUD so rebi RAB HUD say Arabs I'm RAV says no amav as no the Western World they'll defeat the Arabs what kind of logic is that the Romans destroyed theik you're going to say the Arabs are going to are going to be defeated by the Destroyers right the builders are going to be defeated by the Destroyers yeah don't bring meem said that the Romans are going to defeat the Arabs where is it where is it going be where is the where is the I don't know one second some say he responded differently the Persians why you think they're such bigad they also destroyed the bikash what they destroyed shs they destroyed shes the Persians destroyed all the shes under the Persian Empire we learned in right like this also the Romans will defeat the Arabs number one number one they destroyed sches so they're no better than the Romans Romans destroyed they destroyed they did it once and S and left and they kept on doing it maybe where where does it say that the Romans will defeat the AR will not come will not come this is the said Messiah will not come until Rome conquers the world for nine months and there's a PK that says that Rome will be Conquering the world like a woman in labor a woman is pregnant for n months so what do we see from here we see from that the two are Rome and Persia why cuz the last m so yes what you the Persians are not lasting to Mia so he said based on the that if this is something we see the with our own eyes the two Mal that last until the the are Rome and who's going to win you see even the you know we're unclear we don't know we don't know what's going to be we don't know it's a frightening thing who will win who will win who will be the last man standing right who will be the last man standing by the way it could be you'll say you know yes uh if the Persians will defeat the Romans so then they're more it could be you know ultimately The Last Man Standing are going to end up giving it to uh to CL so you know it might not be such a big uh honor to be the last man but anyway I'll show you something very interesting beginning of number number 44 says like this this the says yeah it's the last words of what what are the last words ofing they fell it doesn't say it's talking about the what do we have right after the by the way says so who's the about to him siding with no like rebi and that will conquer Rome and then will fall and of all the places to for n months that's what we going to suffer n months we don't know we know there's an opinion that Rome Will Will Conquer for nine months I don't know if the other opinion says listen to this brother why specifically is there a rem to that comes from what by the way is with to who this is a different share different we learned last week what's of 208 10 90 8 100 208 what's this not even says the beginning of is 208 is why because you know what he's going to come and say say Atria 208 that's thees for this is the is has a connection to you've just experienced another Torah class brought to you by tor anytime.com