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Text-Based Tanya Class—Week #6
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Beginning chapter 2. The origins of the "second soul" or "G-dly soul." This class is recorded live at Chabad of the Five Towns. For more classes from Rabbi Shais Taub visit https://www.soulwords.org/ Follow us on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/rabbi_shais_taub Support our work at: https://www.soulwords.org/donate/
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so uh
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okay so last week hashem we finished
chapter one
and we were left with some
questions
first of all we introduced in chapter
one the idea of sadik rush and benini
and we said these personae are somehow
important in understanding
the whole nature of
our conflict
our duality
our contradiction
but we don't know yet how and we're not
going to find out yet today either
another thing that we
sort of left unresolved
was the discussion of the two souls
from
vital
and we spoke about part of it we spoke
about one of those souls do you remember
the one soul we spoke about in the end
of chapter one
yeah it is the animal soul although we
did not call it navish obama's
we described it as a nephesh of clipper
and citra
we said it's in the blood and it is
effectively the vitality which animates
the body but it's not just a life force
it also is a drive it has a will of its
own
and that will expresses itself in
various ways some of them are as
character defects and we talked about
the different four elements and how they
manifest themselves as different
character defects and we said because
it's clipas noiga it's the type of
negativity which has admixtures of good
it also has some positive character
traits which are
native
to the jewish person not something that
you have to work on
or acquire so it's not really anything
that you've accomplished but
we spoke about the native traits of
uh bashful and
compassionate and uh doing kindness
and that that's also present in this uh
this basic first soul
so now
in chapter two we get the other half of
that picture which is the second soul so
he starts off petting base let's look
inside pedigrees the nephesh hashem is
big israel
the second soul of the jew hihelika kami
mao
mamash is
literally
a portion of god above khalik
from the book of eof
somebody once
wrote to me and they said how did the
al-taraba take the liberty to
use
those words of the scripture out of
context
and um
he said that's why i have a problem
with with hasidic teachings because they
take verses and they use them in ways
that are not
the the not true to the original context
so
this was an email so i responded to the
guy said
uh
first of all
the altarev is not giving an
interpretation of that verse in eof he's
not saying that's shot of the verse in
iowa he's using the latin hapasuk he's
using the expression the phrase that the
scripture uses
second of all
um
if you think this is uniquely hasidic
i'll tell you that the villenegon also
uses the expression
to describe the jewish soul
and that it goes back even further than
either the altar or the villenegon
the
addition of the al-tarab if you want to
say the al trebe was
anything is the word mamash
because the adjective mamash literally
mamash means literally
is is is
added on
the turn of phrase from from e of his
helico
but the altar adds the word mamash and
what we have been taught about that word
is that it means
even in embodiment even in a state of
mamash
this state of being a helichelikami mal
is retained
so it's not just saying it's a hey look
at the cop
mom is really literally like i'm not
joking around i mean it literally mamash
it's i mean it also means that but
the the meaning of mamish is also that
even when this soul is embodied and it's
in a state of mammogious
it's in physicality
it retains this quality of being a
portion of god above
now why is it called the nephesh
hashemis
if it's a portion of god above
i don't know to me that sounds primary
call that the
first soul why call it the second soul
so simple answer you give is well he's
just talking about the order in which he
presented it
we learned about the animal soul at the
end of chapter one we're learning about
the godly soul in the beginning of
chapter two so it means the first soul
we learned about in the second soul
we're learning
okay
but then that begs the question why did
we learn it in that order
so i'll i'll tell you a couple
explanations
one is
that
you know we're talking about the story
of your life
so everyone's born
and they have enough
they have that drive for
self-preservation
that's why the baby cries at 3am without
any guilt
because if i need to be taken care of i
need to be taken care of
but you're not morally accountable in
judaism until much later when do you
become morally accountable
bar mitzvah bass mitzvah so boy 13 a
girl 12.
why
are we morally accountable at that later
age because that's how long it takes the
nephesh hello kiss the godly soul to be
integrated enough into our consciousness
that we have enough access to it to
actually
make moral choices instead of doing
whatever is comfortable for us
so when we talk about first soul and
second soul you know we're talking we're
talking about the story of your life the
first soul that you were in touch with
and the second soul that you got in
touch with later
schleimer king solomon talks about this
by the way in uh in cahallis and
ecclesiastes which we bring in chapter
nine later on in tanya about the parable
about the
melech zakin oxil the
old foolish king
he says that the the animal soul is
called the old foolish king why is he
called old old because relative to the
story of your life you met him first
he was there all along
so he's called old but he's foolish
because he's
he's an animal soul
and uh
the godly soul is like the baby
the newbie he just arrived in town
so that's one explanation about about
first soul and second soul yeah when he
said it takes till barbason for it to be
fully integrated yeah um i mean i think
i've heard like uh
answers that you're not saying it
doesn't enter barbaric mentality
well
you the question is is it something that
happens like instantaneously at that
moment it's incremental and gradual but
as far as
being integrated enough to the point
where somebody could actually be
expected to use it
would be bar
well the first stage of the first stage
of entering what does entering mean
because we're talking about spiritual
entities so it's not like a person
enters a room it's not like a physical
thing that is located inside of another
physical thing
when we say the soul is in the body what
we mean is that
its
influence is discernible on a conscious
level
so
um
if a person
has a desire you know the little kid
wants to eat the cookie
and it's very very hard for the child to
think
selflessly let me stop and make a bracha
before i eat the cookie because that
runs counter to
self-preservation
so to really be
to to have enough access to the
consciousness of your godly soul that we
could expect you
to be able to transcend your drive for
self-preservation that requires the
godly soul to be integrated to a certain
extent it's obviously it's not binary
it's not like either it is integrated or
it's not integrated even in the process
of integration there are pro there are
stages along the way and then even after
bar and bass mitzvah there are stages of
further integration
so the integration concepts i get but
the question is more like is there a
beginning point so bris mila for a boy
is the beginning
of the integration
of the of the soul into the body
marriage is considered the biggest face
of integration but bar bass mitzvah for
practical purposes is sufficient to hold
the person accountable at that point
okay so another reason why we call it
the second soul that first soul and
second soul actually is connected to
this week's parsha
it's kind of nifty
thank you paula for dealing with the
flashing light without calling any
attention to it and i want to mention
because last week we had a whole big
distraction about it and you guys were
so calm just now
i would actually fly with you guys
because i know
if there'd be turbulence nobody would
shriek it's always that's the terrifying
thing it's never the turbulence it's the
person screaming because of the
turbulence but
yeah what was he where are we going
thailand why thailand
okay
why not why not thailand yes when we
finish down here we're going to take a
trip
yeah
we're going to go to the aisle for sure
yeah she wants to fly somewhere i don't
know go to hottich or something
okay
yeah why not we could do that yeah i'm
gonna invite the youtube people sure
we'll take a vote at the end of the
class in two three years when we
finished the kanye well we're taking a
class
taking a trip
anyways
so that was really great how nobody got
distracted by the flashing light okay
um
it's always nifty how things work out
bashkacha pratas this week's parsha we
just started it yesterday we just
started those who learn the daily homos
so yes vayishlak very good so yesterday
was re-sharing today
jacob sends angels angelic messengers to
his brother esau and he says hey brother
are you ready i'm ready are you ready
what was he
trying to do he's trying to unite
tahu and tikkun
yankevavinu represents ticken the
orderly process
of
following the rules slow incremental
success
and uh
ace of is toyohu is chaos his frenetic
energy that can't really be contained in
vessels
he's like the overnight success and
everything that comes with that for good
and for bad
so
we're taught that jacob and esau
are the godly soul and the animal soul
respectively
tell you who is higher than tikkun the
world of chaos
precedes the world of order and i don't
mean chronologically because all of this
stuff is pre-chronological
but i mean as far as if you can imagine
a process that is not a chronological
process
but think about there's a
a first draft of creation where the
writer is getting out all of his ideas
in a flurry but it's unsustainable it's
too much it's too much revelation
because
for someone to read something you gotta
you gotta you know
whittle it down you gotta carve
back some of that revelation you gotta
make it more
uh palatable you have to make it more
understandable so you got to break it up
you got to take some stuff out you got
to well that you know we're going to
remove that that's not really for uh
that's too confusing so imagine a first
draft of creation which is like this
burst of creativity which was necessary
as part of the process but it's too much
creativity so it's unsustainable and
that's where the sriracha calum the
shattering of the vessels emanates from
because
there was too much creative energy and
it broke the containers at any rate tahu
is this
this level which is which is higher than
tikkun
ace of emanates from toyo yankee
emanates from tikkun
internally each one of us has two souls
one of them is from tikkun one of them
is from tohu the
animal soul
is from toyu
that's why it is so wild because it's
from this
this lofty level
of
wild energy that is so
um
unconstrained and uncontainable
that uh it ends up not really working
out as a system
for creation
but
it's got a certain
it has a certain
quality
that if if you can manage to harness it
is really really valuable
so
we have this idea of a first soul
the animal soul being this
in its source at least
being this really lofty wild
unharnessed
spiritual energy
and what it teaches us
is that i mean why is this idea
important is that even when we start to
learn how to rein in the animal and to
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not let it call the shots and not let it
direct our lives because to let the
animal run our lives would mean to
to face destruction who'd mean to make
our our our lives into absolute uh
to to havoc
and yet
we're not trying to get rid of this
animal we're just trying to reign it in
and if we can manage to
redirect its energy which is the
ultimate goal
then we will have the best of both
worlds
so you should understand
that the godly soul is the second soul
second meaning not just you get it later
in life but second meaning
if you look at its spiritual source
it is actually lower in its source its
original source then this animal soul
and and in fact you know we have a
hasidic concept that something that
comes from a higher source when it falls
down it falls lower
the the the parable often is of a wall a
stone wall so if the stone wall topples
then the row of stones that was at the
top when the stone when the wall was
standing straight ends up farthest from
the wall so because the animal soul
starts so lofty it comes down so low
same thing with asap and that's what
yitzchuk recognized in a7 why he loved
him wanted to bless him because he
thought
he could access that energy
at any rate so that that's the idea of
first soul and second soul
but let's find out a little bit more
yeah
say louder please
the animal soul comes from higher falls
lower that's why down here
it is expressed as these base instincts
it's clearly in its in its
manifested state it's lower it's not
some altruistic spiritual drive it's
this low
crass
drive
but the reason it expresses itself in
that low manner is because it actually
came and descended from from higher
yeah
so far so good
okay
so now we're going to find out a little
bit more about this godly soul
we we said that it's a helical kami mal
and the altar adds mamas even in a body
kamehameha kosovo like it says
and
he breathed god breathed
in his nostrils
meaning atoms
nostrils
a
living soul
this
soul
is likened to breath
god's breath
or like we say the aton
and you breathed it within me we say
that in the morning blessings we say
hashem this neshama that you gave me
is pure alakin
you gave me this pure soul
you created it you formed it and you
blew it into me
you blew it into me so this soul
is likened to breath and the shama
itself the word
is related to nishima which means breath
so why is this an important
um metaphor
that we think of the soul as breath
we're going to talk about that a little
bit
kamehameha
so like the holy zoeyer says
one who blows
blows from his in innerness
pirush what does that mean
that the inner depth of his vitality
mates
comes out when he blows
strongly
i had a thing that i developed for my
oldest daughter who's now 20 when she
was like maybe seven or eight
she had a bunch of classmates that's
when we started it
we means me and my wife
we started this thing where we would do
tania lessons for kids
and so we started it when my oldest
daughter was maybe seven or eight we had
her classmates come over
and then since then i've done it
for many many kids groups
um
you guys some of you have taken my class
before know about some of my
hands-on tonya demonstrations
because some of you saw i don't know did
ever
you know that this the first version of
this class that we did here in the five
towns you know is on my website it's on
soulworth.org you go soulwords.org
forward slash tanya and the whole class
is there and you can hear some of your
questions by the way i get great
comments from people like that the
questions in that class are brilliant
people love it by the way and i want you
want to know something else people say
to me they're like
it's so cute i hear kids playing in the
background
i told them yeah we paid those kids to
make that noise
okay
so i don't know if you guys ever saw
but the class for chapter 29
at the end yeah go check it out on
soulwords.org forward slash tanya go
check out class 29 at the end of 29 i'm
blowing stuff up like real real fire
making explosions
did you guys ever see that you guys
should really check it out so i'm making
explosions with fire i made a simulated
uh grain silo explosion
anyways that why am i telling you this
that was one of the tanya hands-on
demonstrations that i created
for uh for kids
yeah
so you check it out chapter 29
um blowing stuff up
the hands-on demonstration for chapter
two i'll tell you what we did
we had
something called an oscilloscope
and what it does
is it measures
sound
and it represents it visually
as a as a line
so if you're talking i mean you could
set it to different levels of
sensitivity but when you're talking so
the line goes up and if it's silent then
the line plummets
flat lines
so
what i did is
i called up two volunteers
to stand up in front of the group these
are kids
and i had one girl stand here one girl
stands there and i say we're gonna have
a contest
an endurance contest
one of you
is going to
blow bubbles
and i gave her a cup with like uh water
and a straw i think even at one point we
got it really really fancy and we had
like a ping-pong ball so you could
really you could see the ping-pong ball
bobbing around but i said your job is
just to blow bubbles okay
then there's another girl okay your job
is to talk into this
little uh oscilloscope to the mic
and it's gonna read your sound waves of
your voice
and your job is just to keep that
oscilloscope to keep that monitor
to keep the lines
jumping and if you stop talking then the
lines will go
flat
okay so basically you can picture this
you have two girls standing in the front
and one is trying to keep the bubbles
going by blowing into a straw and the
other is trying to keep the oscilloscope
line jumping by talking
and the the contest is who can keep it
up the longest
and always but they don't know they
always do they they get they have
bravado they're like oh i could do this
i could blow bubbles forever right it
doesn't matter if you have
the biggest girl against the smallest
girl they think
they think it matters like who's going
up against whom it does it doesn't
matter the talker will always be able to
go
forever
and the one blowing the bubbles will get
tired some some take a minute some take
two minutes
but
eventually you cannot continue blowing
bubbles talking i do it all the time i
talk for hours and hours and hours and
hours on end all the time
and the reason that you can talk and
talk and talk and talk but blowing
bubbles will tire you out in a minute or
two is because
physiologically where the air is coming
from
when you're talking
when you're talking you are not drawing
air from the depths
i mean maybe maybe an opera singer or
something like maybe pavarotti i don't
know but regular talking the air is
you're not drawing from the depths of
the air source from your lungs in order
to talk you can breathe rather
shallow and still talk
but when you're blowing
you're expending the air from deep
within and you have to refill it deep
within and that's why it's tiring
so here's the deal
we know
that hashem
creates through speech as it creates
present texts
hashem creates through speech
but yemen ella came and god said
let there be light right here and there
was light
so in voracious in the genesis account
it describes god as speaking the world
into being
or like we're saying davening barak shah
um
blessed is he who spoke in the world
came into being
god speaks the world into being and
those who learn
with me
those who
remember that was one of the classes
that we did here at one point remember
we're learning
we're learning about the ics the 22
letters of the olive base describe
basic building blocks of creative energy
and god creates the world by arranging
those building blocks in a manner that
we call divine speech so every single
thing in the world is a product of god's
speech
he speaks it into being he calls it he
names it and it
comes into being
there is one exception to this
everything in the world is a product of
god's speech
there's one entity which is a product of
god's breath
the neshama
the nephesh
the godly soul
it is considered
not godly speech but godly breath
and the idea here is
that just like the altar ever says in
the name of the zayar that breath means
it's coming from the torchios and the
panimus it's coming from the inner depth
in other words
the neshama
is an expression
of god's innerness
the neshama is
in many ways
an extension of god's own selfhood
everything is a creation of god
the neshama is an extension
of god or
god expressing himself
not by making something but
by
being
something
so we're talking about a totally
different type of entity
a unique iden a unique entity unlike
anything else
and breath is one analogy that we use
breath as opposed to speech is one
analogy that we use to begin to
appreciate
what this what this entity is
yeah i read somewhere that the word
abracadabra comes from
there yes i speak i will create yeah
that's right because the original
vaudeville magicians were jews and they
they used to say abracadabra the stage
magicians yeah it comes from aramaic
yeah yeah everything comes from the jews
so one analogy
is
is uh breath
there's another analogy
that helps to round out the picture of
the identity of the
the second soul
you see where we are right after the
colon
marshall
likewise
by way of allegory
metaphorically speaking
the thought of the souls of the jewish
people arose to god's mind
israel
like it says god refers to the jewish
people as my son my first born
the jewish people
bonnie
you are children
to the lord your god
what is this idea of
rising to the mind and what is this idea
of being a son or a child
pirush this means
kemei shahabban nim shahm
just like a sun
comes from the brain of the father
we're going to get into a little bit of
kabbalistic
physiology in a moment
just like the sun
derives from the brain of the father
let's just finish the sentence
so too
so to speak
the shaman's call israel
the soul of every jewish person
comes from the
thought and the wisdom
of hashem
the yu khakim valley bachma
that he is wise but not in the noble
sense
of wisdom allah but rather
he and his wisdom are one
so there's a lot of explanation required
here
you have to understand both the martial
and the nimsho
usually
usually we use a muscle because
you understand the muscle already it's
to help you understand the nimsho you
understand the way
usually a metaphor
is you make a reference which is already
understandable
it's not the thing that you actually
want to talk about but it's similar to
the thing that you actually want to talk
about and it's more familiar so you make
a reference to something familiar
and the person says yeah i understand
that and you say okay well there's an
aspect of that familiar concept which
exists in this new unfamiliar concept
just sort of bring over
your understanding of the unfamiliar uh
your understanding of the familiar to
your to your new understanding of this
unfamiliar thing and that's why a
metaphor is effective you guys all
follow what i'm saying okay what do you
do when the metaphor isn't familiar
so it's probably not yeah
so it's probably not the way you learned
procreation in biology class
so we need to explain a little bit
of this kabbalistic physiology
the
the concept
of
the ben the sun is nimshach
is drawn down from the brain of the
father
is both a spiritual and a physical
concept
what it means is that ultimately
the
reproductive
power
of the father
and we're not being sexist by saying
father father father as opposed to
mother because father and mother have
distinct roles in reproduction everybody
knows that that's undeniable
right now we're focusing on the father's
role
the father's role is to provide a tiny
tiny package of code of information
which
is unpacked and
developed within the mother
and ultimately becomes articulated as an
entire complete human being
this
phenomenon of a tiny essential
point a tiny speck
of information
being developed into a complete human
being
in other words
building a person
out of out of a cell
this is an expression of the essence of
the father
what do i mean by the essence what i
mean is for instance a child could
inherit from a father a talent
that the father himself never developed
so the father never touched a piano so
he can't play piano and yet the father
inherited from his great great great
great grandfather the skills to play the
piano he never developed it so he
doesn't have it and yet
this same father's own son
can inherit the piano playing skills
from his father who can't play the piano
why because when you inherit your
genetic
code from your parents you're not
getting what they were able to
display and manifest you're getting
their essence which is everything even
the potential that was never actualized
so the idea of reproduction is there's a
transmission of essence
and
what is the
medium through which that essence is
transmitted
the what we call tipas mayako av
the drop that comes from the father's
brain now you're gonna say okay i get
what you mean when you're talking about
the drop you're talking about the
seminal drop you're talking about a cell
you're talking about a cell which
contains genetic code
i get that that sort of is consistent
with my understanding of biology but why
are you saying it's from the brain
there is a joke here but i'm not going
to go for it
um
so the altareba actually speaks about
this
in taitu not in tanya he speaks about it
in titu
and he says that obviously
we don't mean that there's physical
pieces of brain
being transmitted as the
reproductive cells
what we mean is
that the energy
that is transmitted
through the reproductive cell
originates in
the
father
as brain energy
in other words
the in the father himself his essence is
his brain which is why you see that the
brain controls the entire body
the brain is connected to the entire
body and knows what's going on in the
entire body
so the brain represents the essence
within one organism
when that organism
procreates and reproduces and passes on
its essence it's passing on its brain so
to speak negative as well as positive
traits like everything yeah
yeah and doesn't the father determine
the gender the chromosomes
i have no idea i have no idea that's not
i don't know
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the son it could be a daughter it could
be a daughter it's not a gender specific
when we say ben it doesn't have to be a
son you can imagine a daughter because
the same the same mechanics apply if
whether it's a son or it's a daughter
the point is
the muscle the metaphor here which is
supposed to be
which is supposed to say
the reason we're using a metaphor is
you're supposed to say oh yeah i know
that thing and then
we're supposed to get into the deep
concept that is harder to understand
i just understand that in a in a 2021
context people don't understand
the metaphor or the thing that it's
attempting to explain so that's why i'm
explaining the metaphor first but please
do not get hung up on the metaphor this
is not a biology class and that's not
the purpose of this discussion purpose
of the discussion is
we use
the idea of biological reproduction as a
metaphor for the relationship between
god and the godly soul
that just like
biological reproduction is
someone
taking his own essence and reproducing
it
so too
the relationship between god and the
godly souls god taking his own essence
and reproducing it
so one metaphor we use is breath
coming from his depths it's coming from
his inside the other metaphor we use is
biological reproduction
that
just like the sun has the same dna as
the father
the soul the godly soul has the same dna
so to speak
as god
it is not a is it is not merely a
creation of god which all things are
creations of god
it is
an expression a manifestation of god's
own selfhood
and that is unique there's no other
entity of which this can be said
so what we're describing here
is not just
a a
a loftier
version of the first soul
okay so you have one soul that's into
self-preservation
and you have another soul that's into
spirituality
no no no that's the big misconception
actually what we're describing here are
two entities
which are categorically different
incomparably different
because the godly soul
is not just
a drive that's driven toward loftier
more spiritual things
it's not just that it's
its goals and its desires are different
than the animal soul
it's that the entity itself is
essentially different
yeah
is this only in the jewish we describe
this
we said the nephesh hashemis
so we're describing a uniquely jewish
soul and in fact if you ever want to
know what jewish identity is
not
how to transmit jewish identity that's a
matter of halacha you're born from a
jewish mother converted according to
but if you want to know what is jewish
identity
it is the presence of this soul
that's all it is
it's not
adherence to a religious ideology
because there are people who have the
presence of this soul and they don't
follow judaism
it is the presence of this soul
fantastic question you are anticipating
where we're heading the question was if
hashem gives all of his children his dna
so to speak and we're speaking
metaphorically obviously do we all get
the same
they have that dna to yield somebody
that's ah
not attached
that
that painfully inside of them is that
the same part that we were all
fantastic questions
okay so the question let me just
rephrase it especially on the microphone
here is you you refer to a to an
expression called the pinterlaid
pintoligi is a yiddish colloquially a
colloquialism
which basically means that every jew
regardless of observance has a certain
essential jewish identity that will come
out when push comes to shove
at any rate the question was if i could
just
re-phrase it
if all jews have
this identity which is
the dna of god so to speak
does that mean that
ultimately regardless of the way a jew
presents himself or herself
in terms of jewish observance that
ultimately they possess the same
spiritual identity
and the answer of course is yes what
you're
sensing we're saying is precisely what
we are saying the answer is yes however
at the same time
we don't want to oversimplify it so
there is the question well if that's so
then why don't all jews present the same
why don't they all look like the same
exact level of observance so we have to
account for that discrepancy and he's
going to talk about this in this chapter
which is essentially
how come
every jew ultimately
is essentially the same
and yet we see for ourselves it's
undeniable
that there are different levels
of spirituality being expressed by
different jews
it's a real phenomenon and it requires
explanation
and he's going to address it i mean
we're not going to get into it today
because we have like three and a half
minutes
but it's a real question
yeah and a micro level is the same about
the father and his kids they all get the
same spiritual dna
you're asking about the metaphor i don't
think it's so important i don't want to
i don't want to perseverate on the
metaphor
i mean uh
do they all get the same dna
i don't know i'm not i'm not i'm not a
biologist i don't know
i understand the metaphor as well as i
need to in order to be able to
to appreciate the spiritual concept
the idea here is
that
there is a basic jewish identity which
is universal
and part two of that statement is that
basic jewish identity which is universal
to all jews is the essence of god
mamash
which means both literally i'm not not
speaking figuratively but mamish also
means like i told you the beginning of
class even in a state of momotious even
in a physical body because you could say
well
in theory
if you're talking in the abstract
yes every jewish soul
is this
reproduction of the godly
genetic code and i
have to say kavyakov so to speak
obviously you understand the the words
we're using right now are purely figures
of speech because we're talking about
god who is indescribable
but
you could say oh this is an abstract
concept
but um
it only exists in heaven it only exists
in higher planes and when the altar ever
adds that word mamish what he's saying
is no even here in the world even in a
state of embodiment
if you probe deeply enough
you will find there's a certain
basic universal
essence
of all jewish people
regardless of how they present
themselves
and that basic essential identity is
so to speak the essence of god himself
powerful concept
so just
remember when we're talking about two
souls
we're not talking about two comparable
entities who just have a little bit
different agendas
we're talking about categorically
different entities
two entities which are completely
incomparably different and yet somehow
we don't know yet exactly the
particulars but we see this is where
we're heading we have to somehow
negotiate
some livable type of arrangement between
these two entities
in our bodies
we don't know yet how that's going to
happen but that's everyone can sort of
sense that's where we're heading you can
sense that because that's where we
started in chapter one in chapter one we
started with our conflict we started
with our questioning about our own
identity what's going on with us and the
altitude presented the idea of the
conflict so now we're starting to
appreciate that this conflict is a lot
bigger than we even thought
we thought well one minute i like
pleasures of this world and the next
minute i like
doing acts of kindness and so i'm
wishy-washy no no it's much deeper than
that there are two categorically
different entities
that are both present
within
the consciousness
of the jew
vying for
control of your life
so this is very deep stuff this is very
i mean you could you could you could
well understand
how this could
create serious issues
but that's why we're here that's why
we're coming to a
spiritual master and we're presenting
ourselves and we're being honest about
our situation and we're asking for
guidance and this is there's no quick
fix there's no quick answer this is
part of the process
to understanding ourselves properly and
then
trying to uh to manage our lives more
successfully okay
i don't think i can get any further than
this i want to be respectful everyone's
time
so we're going to just remember
we're stopping before the note
there's a haggar there's a note here
and we're going to stop right before
that technical note