Text-Based Tanya Class—Week #37

all right welcome back weekly text-based tanya and we are getting close to completing a long string of chapters that we started weeks maybe months ago we're getting close to the culmination of it where it's all going to pay off it's going to click into place it's all going to make sense after all this hard work okay what chapter are we in the middle of 24 very good we're in the middle of 24. and we've been speaking about something very interesting that remember in chapter 23 we spoke about the nature of oneness with hashem that through learning hashems toyota and doing hashem's mitzvahs we become totally one with hashem we become absorbed and subsumed within that oneness in a seamless type of way yeah okay that was 23. in 24 we spoke about something kind of scary and yucky and uh unpleasant that if you do the opposite then the opposite when we break away from hashem's will and we don't do what he wants us to do or we expressly do we do what he expressly told us not to do then what happens what is the effect is the separation god forbid we become separate from hashem and what he was saying last week is that actually when a human being of his own free will chooses to separate from hashem that's an even greater separation from hashem than the default spiritual setting of the negative forces negative spiritual energies because they're programmed to do that that's what they're supposed to do but we're choosing to do it and it um so it's much worse it's much worse okay um remember this all sounds familiar okay and we're gonna continue and i think we're gonna finish chapter 24 today then next week god willing we'll do chapter 25 and then we'll really have completed a full thought basically 18 through 25 as it was said many times is one full complete thought and that 26 is going to start a totally different subject a completely new section of tonya basically okay so we are up to the the words in the text the incan height of everything and if so the sinner and the one who transgresses hashem's will okay if so the one who sins and transgresses hashem's will what does the imkin if so mean if so means it's a logical conclusion now based on what we've been saying we're going to now take us to the next step the eem kane so i'll read again the iam kane if so if what we've said so far i'm not going to recap everything we said last week i mean i kind of just did very quickly so i'm not going to recap more veeam kin if so everything we said based on everything we said last week in the first part of chapter if so the one who sins the evidence and transgresses hashem's will meaning he says i'm going to do what i want to do not what hashem told me he wants me to do i feel about vedicala even if it's a aveda kala that means a light sin and why does he point this out remember we've been saying and i told you a disclaimer a hundred times do not generalize this into an overall attitude about you this kite but for this method that we're learning right now we have a very black and white attitude there's no such thing as a big sin or a little sin so even an aveda kala with a coof not a collar like a bride but kalo liked even a light sin a seemingly what do you call a light sit oh it's not biblical it's only rabbinic it's not such a big deal it is a big deal because right now the way we are framing it is as a binary choice there's either connection and that connection is complete connection or god forbid disconnection or that disconnection is incomplete if you pull the plug out of the wall out of the wall socket the lamp's gonna it's a lamp it's plugged into a lamp in my i'm just making it up there's not a real lamp it's pretend you want it to be something else well what's good i mean it could be a cuisinart if you want because it's just a mussel if you pull the plug out of the wall does it matter if it's an inch away from the socket or 10 feet away from the socket or either way the light's going to go out so it doesn't matter disconnected is disconnected so somebody who does us in even an aveda kala even a relatively what we normally would call a light sin yeah bashas maisa at that moment and i stress again bashas maiser at that moment okay at that moment he is as far away from holiness as you could be and what is holiness hashem's oneness he is completely as far removed as hashem from hashem's oneness as could be you're going to say well hold on to saying he could have done a far worse aveda that's not the way we're looking at it right now the way we're looking at it is if the plug is pulled out of the wall by an inch or it's pulled out by 10 feet either way it's disconnected and that's you can't be more just there are no increments once you're disconnected that's it now again remember i said bashas maiser at that moment because obviously there's linear time and there's something called chuva and you could plug the the the plug back in a second later okay and we're gonna deal with that because that that good news could undercut the whole power of the of the method because basically then you'll convince yourself well i'll deal with it later i'll clean it up later and that would undercut the whole power of the math because the whole power of the method is to get ourselves to see this next moral choice as an all or nothing proposition where god forbid we stand to lose everything so we'll but we'll we'll deal with that okay so at this moment he is totally disconnected disconnected disconnected yay sir and here's the kidus more disconnected than all of the impure creepy crawly things and even more disconnected than the negative spiritual energies which are the um idolatrous entities of the spiritual realm because they're just doing their job whereas we are doing the opposite of our job um now hold on a second someone's going to be smart they're going to be smart they're going to ask a question the altareb is dealing with a smart question now he says and this that beco fish that's saving a life pushes off meaning grants momentary dispensation to violate all other sins and even there is a concept of transgress so that you do not die that you don't get killed in other words um it makes it seem like there are gradations in sin because you're going to say hold on a second to itself categorizes some sins as sins that you should die rather than transgress and others that you should not not you don't have to die but you should not die rather than transgress so that sort of picks apart the whole um the whole method here because remember without recapping everything we've been saying we're trying to trigger the mechanism that gets triggered when a jew is forced or faced with the uh with the threat of death if he does not renounce god if he does not embrace idolatry and we have this peculiar phenomenon through history of irreligious jews it's not peculiar if a religious jew does this but irreligious jews who would rather die unfortunately have thousands maybe millions of such cases in history where they'd rather die than be separate from a god so we know that there is this mechanism and i'm not going to go into recapping what the mechanism is we described described it at length in chapter 19 that prevents a jew from becoming disconnected from hashem but that was only in real intense situations where the level of sin was you know a big sin like not like but specifically it was idolatry and now you're trying to take that same idea and apply it to aveda's collois little sins like uh i don't want to give you i always hesitate uh or more than hesita i i generally refrain from giving examples of what light sins would be because i always feel like i'm going to give people ideas like oh i didn't know that was a light one okay yeah okay it's like people here you see sometimes people from brooklyn they park in five towns like how much are tickets here because in new york city a ticket is like a serious thing it's like a night out at a fancy restaurant that's what a ticket is how much i don't want to know because my rationalization will kick in and be like i'll feel like a veer i'll be like i can park anywhere i want in five times because everyone yeah it's not it's not like new york city tickets what expired meter 35. i feel great 35 for an expired meter all right and then okay all right so we're what are we talking about today we're talking about different parking fines and different jurisdictions what are we talking about what are we better than witches i'll remember that last week the witches hold on a second what if a witch doesn't pay the meter why do we talk we're talking about relative gradations in sin right so a person's gonna say hold on a second toyota itself speaks about different categories different levels that's the whole idea of the you know cardinal sins or we i don't know what that term actually comes with it's always the term you know we use the term cardinal sins cardinal sin probably is christological anyways cardinal since um as opposed to blue jay sins okay we have some cardinals in our backyard by the way yeah they're beautiful yeah i'm from illinois the state bird of illinois is sounds like the cardinals the cardinal yes correct very good yes and of missouri they have the baseball team snake bird of new york a pigeon what i think it's a pigeon i think it's a pigeon eating a rat is the state bird of new york okay no offense to the new yorkers okay george carlin said new jersey is called the garden state yeah garden if you're growing smokestacks [Music] oh my goodness okay george carlin said no i didn't say it okay you repeated it well i repeated it i'm ready to bring the gool up okay okay all right george carlin's best line he says think about how dumb the average person is and half the people are dumber than him what'd you say the state bird in new york uh pigeon eating a dead rat according to google it's the eastern bluebird the eastern bluebird that's much nicer yeah okay eastern bluebird if you're watching online the eastern bluebird is the state bird of new york the empire state the empire state state the state nickname is the empire state okay all right excelsior right isn't that the state motto excelsior you know what it means like striving be excellent be awesome yeah i think stan lee adopted that as his slogan as well i was yesterday tish above i was in forest hills i was at the bukhari in shul at beth gavriel in uh yeah everyone knows where that is yeah in forest hills i poked i i parked on the ramones way it was interesting the street i parked out was called the ramones way because the ramones are from forest hills yes and um then well i might tell you stan lee was from forest hills and that's why peter parker's address is in forest hills and the people who live at that address are actually called the parkers and peter parker we don't know we're trying to get pictures of him we don't know okay listen we don't know anyways so actually we don't know who spider-man is okay we know peter parker some he's i think he takes photographer photo photographs for the daily bugle is that it right is that or is that superman daily bugle what oh this isn't real so anyway stan lee i'm telling you something interesting stan lee oliver shalom so i'm now lifting a gun he grew up in forest hills so peter parker who is canonically jewish by the way lived in forest hills and also you should know stan lee lived here in the five towns where did he live in the five towns back lawrence i think he lived in woodsburg some place in the back there yeah yeah so let's let's google that stan lee lived in five towns and anyways he used to say excelsior yeah okay but listen i'm the only one who's google works i'm going to retrace the steps here we were talking about cardinal sins and we were remembering the cardinal on the blue jay and what's the state bird of illinois state britain of new york okay excelsior eureka that's california okay cardinal sins we're saying what's the deal with cardinal sins is that a real thing ah we're all wrong he lived in hewlett harbor he lived in hewlett harbor stan lee lived in hewlett harbor okay so what's the deal with the idea of cardinal sins cardinal means very cardinal yeah right so it makes it seem like toyota itself is agreeing to this idea not agreeing to it the toyota itself is coming up with this idea that there are gradations there are gradations of sin some sins push off um or rather pikoch nephesh pushes them off in some sins are not pushed off uh by by pikachu by a threat to life says you can't go by that because well it doesn't say you can't go with it yeah piercing always says you don't know and then see this explains yeah exactly okay similar similar yes very good okay all right so let's let's look at this because the altareba is answering a question that an educated person would have all right if you were really educated you might ask this question on your own but you didn't have a chance to ask this question on your own because we just but i'm sure if we sat you down in the room by yourself for hours since i come up with a smart question one of you would have come up with this question on your own but i didn't give you a chance to do it so here it is okay here's the question um aren't there gradations instead i mean that the data itself it talks about cardinal sins okay i know so that is to say see where we're continuing i know hazal like our sages explain omratera tater said halal allah shabbas ahas desecrate for this person one shabbos kadeshi ishmael so that he should be able to keep many more shabbasas there's a person who is in mortal danger on shabbos and saving him would require hillel shabbas who require breaking shabbos why are we allowed to break shabbos because the rationale that toyota itself provides is not a mystery toyota itself provides the rationale that if you desecrate shabbos once to save this person it will allow much more smear shabbos the keeping of shabbos than the one little infraction right now the lay and this is very important here this is has nothing to do with the relative low or high degree of importance or gravity of the sins in other words he's telling you something don't be smart and think to yourself hold on a second i just figured out that when it comes to let's say aveda zara worshiping an idol you have to die and not do it when it comes to shabbos you have to violate shabbos and not die so i just figured out logically i'm doing a little bit of math here back in the napkin math i just figured out that there are gradations he says it's a different rationale it has nothing please do not try to deduce from this that there are levels and you figured out which are the more serious and which are the less serious infractions that's not that that would not be correct and he tells you in this case the rationale of why you're supposed to desecrate shabbos to save a life not because of the relative lower level gravity of shabbos it's because there's a simple there's a simple rationale here that if indeed you care about shabbos and you want more shabbos to be kept well letting this person die on shabbos is going to prevent them from keeping shabbos for the rest of their life so better save them now and then a lot more shabbos will be kept because of the the moment of shabbos desecration okay and then he continues this is a scholarly little section here teda you should know tatum means a proof tata means a proof shabbas is considered to be tantamount to the entire torah when it comes to the rules of who is a proper sheikh a ritual slaughterer somebody who is a ritual slaughterer do they have to be perfectly completely 100 percent religious ideally obviously yes but halachically if they're not does their shrita does they slaughtered animals are those animals by default no longer kosher just because of who did the shrita so we say it depends if the person who's the shaykh let's say he keeps all mitzvahs except for one mitzvah there's one mitzvah he doesn't care about shotness would that invalidate his shrita we say no it wouldn't what if he says okay well there's another sheikhit and he keeps all the mitzvahs just one mitzvah he doesn't keep doesn't keep shabbos we say no shabbos is a deal breaker shabbos is what does this apply also to a bald feeler i don't know i have no idea this is hard enough for me to help cup with this is very technical scholarly stuff here okay just follow altadeb is doing remarkable scholarship right here there's a prohibition even if that's the only thing and when we say is a mum it doesn't mean that sometimes mikhail shabas it means he basically excused himself from that mitzvah i i don't do that yet i'm that's not not on my my list not on my menu if he doesn't keep shop it could say it about another mitzvah and we i mean obviously it's not good and probably no one would hire him but i'm saying if it happened if you discovered that there was such a shaykhit it doesn't validate his shita per se but if the guy doesn't keep shabbos that's it bam so you look at that in that from that perspective it's clear that shabbos is a very severe or very uh grave infraction or the violation thereof and he gives the source bayer de asim and base in uh daya chapter 2. but no i i i can barely keep track of this like you don't you don't realize tati is driving a 12 passenger van in the pouring rain right now and the kids are asking where is the orange juice drink box and i'm saying it's under the cooler under your feet and you say i can't find it right now and i'm saying it i'm going in the pouring rain we'll get the juice boxes when we pull over at the next stop okay so please that's what's happening right now this is not easy this is not easy stuff he's building a building right now it's very it's it's brilliant in its simplicity but you have to follow each step okay shockingly perhaps to some people if the shaykh were a mumula dover ah he was completely religious except for one area and it was in the area of aurelius of sexual immorality i'm not saying this is good i'm not saying that it's not a big deal i'm just saying technically on the books you find out the shaykh doesn't keep shabbos all of everything he shocks is is is absolutely not kosher you don't even have to check into it you find out the guy is immoral in his private life you understand what i'm saying private life okay i said the word once i don't want to say it again but okay not that's good i'm just saying technically on the books it doesn't automatically invalidate hishrita that's what shohanorik says okay and never watch this building it's brilliant and nevertheless saving a life pushes off shabbos as we just mentioned but not immorality of an intimate nature allah dixat is a cause of who therefore we have to conclude this is axetas acosta of gazeta sarcasm means fiat whim that's just what hashem decided in other words you want to crack the code of the logic here and in order to start figuring out which evaders are bigger evaders he says it doesn't work that way it doesn't work that way because watch what he says there could be a sheikh who doesn't keep shabbos and you can't eat a shrita there could be a sheikh who freely indulges in gili arroyos not that it's good again but you can eat from his shrita okay so that clearly indicates or would seem to indicate which is much more serious shabbos or gili roy's shabbos but then you come in from another angle hold on a second but if there were a situation where it was i will kill you if you don't transgress shabbos shabbos gets pushed off or i'll kill you if you don't worship idols idol worship does not get pushed off so now what seems more serious idle worship so what he says is you cannot construct a consistent logical way of decoding a ranking here that's really right we're saying what worship is not the same as no but it's one of the three sins that you're not supposed to transgress that you give your life what do you say he's just pointing out that there's there's no consistency to it because you would think that if uh doesn't keep one mitzvah that shabbos is a deal breaker and gilead rice is not a deal breaker shabbos is obviously the more serious one yeah but then when you look at pikach something that the person should transgress rather than die then it's the opposite he he he should be mchalo shabbos and not and not die but he should not worship idols and yes allow himself to die so the the point is we cannot figure out what the system is he calls it xeratusa kosov these things ultimately are just based on hashem's infinite wisdom and divine logic that we cannot grasp so the point is again this is the bottom line and i've been saying it before and i'll just keep saying it again there are no gradations in sin so disconnected is disconnected there are no gradations in sin okay now we said that that disconnect happens at the moment of transgression right the chasm was the wording remember it was 20 minutes ago you remember 20 minutes ago okay continuing after the brackets now it's true after the deed is done he finished the sin again certain gradations that seem to be in place when it comes to sin if the sin is not one of those that incurs the penalty of course excision of the soul or the misibideshimayan death penalty by the hands of heaven sins that do not cause the severance of the soul from its source rather it causes like a nick like a little chip in the connection so it doesn't sever the cord but it puts a little uh puts a little cut or a little fray in the connection commensurate to the nature of the damage done to the connection that will be uh that will determine the type or the intensity of the purification process either in gehenum in purgatory after one passes or perhaps which is much better to do it this way i mean to your advantage that it should happen but in this world it's uh it's a much better exchange rate to have the purification happen while in this world than to do it in the next at any rate what he says is proportionate to the damage that one does through a particular sin there are some sins that cause a complete severance other sins that cause just damage to the connection according to the level of damage will be the required purification which will either take place as some type of uh enduring certain tribulations and pain in this world which is the better way or in the afterlife um okay well hold on hold on hold on look yeah yeah let's let's yeah it's still raining okay i'll let you know when there's a rest stop okay each sin has a particular punishment why is the punishment particular lemon the punishment is orchestrated or designed or engineered probably the best word particularly to purify and to remove the specific type of damage that the sin caused okay so he's describing the fact that after the moment of disconnection there are different levels of repair that will be required based on the levels of damage that were caused at the moment of the sin and all of that is true but don't allow that to confuse you about the fact that at the moment itself disconnection is disconnection what other damage is there aside from disconnection so he described it i mean he said you don't cause a complete severance but you weaken the connection so he doesn't say it here but like in he get a sachuva which is another section of tanya the altar says imagine a rope that that was woven from 613 strands and there are some sins which cut the whole rope god forbid there are other sins that just cut one strand so even though it's one strand it compromises the strength of the overall connection does that answer your question yeah okay uh we're in five one two three four five six seven eight eight more words we'll be at a at uh at a colon pigment he says by the way even in the category of sins that do incur misa or cores god forbid they are also not all identical they cause different types or degrees of damage and the repair required will be different will vary in in in accordance with that okay okay i'm at a little pause here a little pause this is not the hotel this is just a rest stop everyone can just run in for two minutes we're leaving in two minutes okay all right yes go ahead you waited the long story okay so getting back to the show when somebody becomes a show height is it like smith that there's somebody overseeing yeah don't worry about it no because it's yeah but it's shouldn't that been flagged before don't worry about it it's it's it's it's not jermaine it's it's not your mate don't worry about it no i i'm giving you permission not to be worried about it okay i'm giving information don't don't get caught up on that the only thing you have to i'm just curious you're just curious yes yes yes yes yes yes yes okay okay yes talk loud talk loud at least you know he was at one point is complete but after the same it's not like the escalation like some are with some sins weaken the connection more than others you're not understanding what you said like at the beginning of this in the moment and the moment of the sin is disconnect so imagine the plug getting pulled out of the wall socket right okay so cautis is that the cord got caught well obviously a cord getting caught is going to be a bigger issue to deal with than merely plugging a cord that got pulled out and putting it just plugging it back in at the moment that you're a person is swimming you should imagine anything any sin it doesn't matter if somebody yanked the cord out of the wall or if they just bumped it with their foot disconnect is disconnect now afterwards when you need to reconnect it there are going to be different levels like if it just bumped out and it's lying there it's two two inches away boom just plug it back in sometimes though no the whole cord got cut it got ripped okay that's a bigger repair job it's a much bigger repair job but the point is that at the moment it doesn't matter what caused the plug to come unplugged unplugged is unplugged you don't get points it's not like they say well because the plug is only two inches from the wall we'll let the lamp shine a little bit just weekly no it'll it won't shine at all yeah okay yeah it could be something yeah correct that's pretty good for someone who came here for the first time today the purpose now is merely to give us a framework that's your word i like the word how to view what an aveda is and i've said this to everyone else before you came here like literally i think now 50 times major disclaimer in this particular context of these chapters the framework we're using is a different framework than we normally use in this particular context we're taking a very intense all or nothing view there are other views and we'll speak about when those views are helpful but right now we're taking a very inten and i always give the disclaimer because i don't want somebody to get freaked out by this and scared and discouraged god forbid and then i'll have the opposite effect so everyone who came here signed a disclaimer before they entered the haunted house okay that these are scary chapters scary what i mean by scary is that it is very intense the particular view of sin that we're describing now yes is a very intense framework of it's all or nothing yes and the reason why we're doing this i'll even explain to you i mean i said it a little bit at the beginning but if you haven't been here for weeks it would have been hard to catch he says that there's something inherent about the jewish soul that will not allow itself to be disconnected from god when it's aware that that's what's happening and that's why we have the historical phenomenon throughout history of irreligious jews who died rather than renounce god because there's something built into the jewish soul that will not allow us to be completely disconnected however when we go about our day-to-day lives we rationalize all types of micro disconnections from hashem thinking that it's not a big deal if we were to be able to reframe these rationalized sins and to see them as just as much of a disconnect as what we consider big sins then our super jew response would be triggered and we would suddenly have a much greater wherewithal to make the right choices that's the framework you're making a good point which is separate from the technique that he's teaching right here but you're saying that if a person is generally god-conscious meaning you're focused on the service of hashem and you're focused on studying hashem's toyota that awareness will probably cause you to be more aware yeah and therefore more careful not to allow any type of disconnect uh yeah yeah that's true i'm not going to say it's not true it is true um right right yes that's true but that's not the technique that he's describing right now so i just want to make sure what you're saying is a true statement but separate from this technique okay anything else we're pulling away in 30 seconds okay go let's get to the hotel i i i'm i'm 100 positive the second that i start just like you pull away and then you know i have to go to the bathroom exactly i'm going to start reading and someone's like wait hold on a second what was the state bird of new york okay we're ready to go because i think we can finish chapter 24 right now okay eastern bluebird okay good you'll if you learned only that okay then it was worth it it was worth it okay all right so let's continue i said that yeah that was the last thing i said okay right after the two dots so after the sin after the sin so then his enlivening soul his animal soul the energy that keeps his body alive and also his body itself they go up not physically it's not like going up like an elevator but they spiritually ascend from having been bound to these negative energies but now they're released from it because he stopped sinning um and they go up and attach themselves to the holiness of his godly soul which is inside of the animal soul which is inside of the body hamamino which believes the godly soul believes in the oneness of god so he's describing the mechanics of what happens at the moment of the sin the body and the animal soul who are choosing the sin become attached to clipper and negativity and disconnected from hashem at the end of it however the animal soul and body are then able to they're released from that hold from the negativity reattach themselves to the holiness of the godly soul which believes in god in fact even at the moment of the sin the godly soul was loyal and true to hashem that's an expression from the uh megillah to talk about esther that actually is the godly soul was in a state of exile it was a captive it was a hostage to the animal soul from riddhasa the animal soul was causing the body to sin and it was plunging the godly soul into the depths into the pit or actually probably plunging the whole package the body and itself the animal soul and the godly soul which is trapped within the animal soul into the depths of spiritual depravity in fact as we said earlier even lower than the spiritual station of the negative energy itself because the negative energy is only doing what it was programmed to do when we do it god forbid we've chosen to do it it's a much greater violation and abrogation okay so he's describing what happens at the time of the sin there's this disconnect the animal soul which is the ego the self-preservation instinct which has rationalized i'm going to do whatever i want to do even if hashem says it's wrong it does what it does it causes the body to do the sin then the body and the animal soul as well as the poor little godly soul which is a hostage get disconnected although the godly soul remains loyal it's very sad she's like being schlepped along because she knows it's wrong she's never fooled godly souls never fooled she remains loyal to hashem even though she's trapped in the animal soul which is trapped in the body so she has to go along for the sin which she hates it's the most violating thing because she knows how wrong it is once it's over then the animal soul and the body can detach from the negativity and go back up and reconnect themselves with the holiness of there's no greater gullis there's no greater exile than this condition the condition of the poor little godly soul which is trapped in a body rama hulu from a high roof and he doesn't finish the sta the statement but this is a very very well known expression from our sages actually the original context uh is talking about an animal falling off a roof into a pit but that's not how we use it at all in siddhis and kabbalah me iguru rama from a high roof means from the heights of heaven where the soul started off before its embodiment [Music] into a deep pit means embodiment the physical experience of being in a in a physical body so the soul comes from this highest level of the heavens and it's plunged down deep into this uh pit called physical embodiment and it's a hostage there and it's a terrible violation of the godly soul when it is schlepped along for these for these acts of rebellion against hashem kamehameha basis as we explained above who's going to impress me to tell me where what it means we explained above we explained above meaning pick one through 23 it will be the answer because this is 24. as we explained above meaning one of the previous 23 chapters that the source of the godly soul is the level called choc law supernal wisdom and hashem and his wisdom are one meaning to say the source of the godly soul is really one with god himself that is where the godly soul's coming from and then we hear where it goes to and the situation that it's trapped in during embodiment what does it mean as we explained above that the godly soul is from allah and it's one with god hashem and his wisdom are one where is that from which chapter nobody wants to guess no one wants to risk it what before 18 yeah even earlier two who said two do you say two just randomly it was a guess okay okay fine all right you won the prize it was two yeah it is two yeah okay yes it's two okay the who commercial this is this is really sad okay who commercial what happens to this this pure little godly soul which essentially is a representation of hashem himself what happens when the godly soul is plunged into a body and then that body is directed by the animal soul to do an act of rebellion against god which we call a sin this is metaphorically shall malach someone grabs the head of the king put the king in a headlock which is disrespectful enough and you pull his head down the time in panama and you push his face into a toilet that is full of excrement yeah i'm just translating this is what he says here albane miza there's no greater degradation than that there's no greater degradation you take a king you put him in a headlock you wrestle him to the ground and stick his face in an unflushed toilet there's no greater disgrace a filo a circaine lefty shaw even if you do it for a moment even if you say well i didn't hold him there all night i just dipped his face in the toilet for a second doesn't matter how long it endured for it there is no greater disgrace so this is what he says when the pure pristine beautiful innocent godly soul is schlepped along for the ride because it's embodied it's in it's enveloped within the animal soul which is in turn enveloped within the within the body and now the animal soul because of its ego rationalizes doing whatever it feels like doing even if it's innovator and now the body goes along and does it and the animal soul is is in control at that moment the pure little godly soul is getting pulled along she's a hostage what's happening really is the animal soul is like grabbing the godly soul the godly soul here represents the king because she's not just the princess she's the princess she represents the king the godly soul sometimes called the princess but she represents the king what does that mean the soul is godliness it it is a soul it's not god but it represents god so it's like the king himself getting rustled to the ground and gets his face plunged in the toilet and even if it's moment momentarily there's no greater disgrace as is known that the negative forces are called vomit and excrement and why just to be gross why are the negative forces called ki toyo why are they called vomit and excrement just just to make you not like them i would argue actually the opposite that not that clip is gross because it's compared to vomit and excrement but that vomit and excrement is gross because it is a physical manifestation of klippa kidusha holiness is life there's all life is only the life of all life is hashem kedusha is life the opposite anything that does not surrender itself like we learned in chapter six to hashem doesn't have life it can have a little it can siphon off a little bit of hijacked vitality like a little frankenstein's monster so that it can have enough to move around and do its do its stuff and that's really but basically what the clip is like it gets this little amount of energy just so it can go around and cause the damage that it's supposed to cause which is part of hashem's plan but it is not life and it has no life of its own ki so yeah excrement and vomit as long as we're going to talk about these things we might as well explain the purpose of the metaphor are talking about well the point yeah that could have used other metaphors you're talking about what the body is expelling that is not nourishing the point is that there's nutrition there's nourishing um there there's substance that has value and then there's the garbage that you get rid of it's garbage you get rid of it clipper has no vitality it's garbage in fact that's why ultimately when the world is perfected after meshiach comes it'll just fall away because it doesn't really have any identity of its own it's devoid of energy it's the absence of of life and energy so what he says is if you think about it at the moment when you force your godly soul to come along for this um this act of rebellion against god you know what i always think of by the way when i think about remember the symbionese liberation army remember that patty hearst that's right she was what she was the she was the daughter granddaughter of william randolph hearst daughter william randolph hearst he was the real guy that citizen kane was based on right he owned a bunch of newspapers and shangri-la the thing in california the fancy mansion right that's the guy okay so he she was like this uh socialite this uh and they they kidnapped her and they brainwashed her and they turned her into a bank robber right that was the whole thing then the whole question was was she really responsible because she had stockholm syndrome and she went to jail right so i always imagine like i don't know if this is just my metaphor i don't know whatever the poor little godly soul she's this princess she has this her father's the king and then these bad guys they like kidnap her and they're like you're gonna work for us and you're gonna rob banks for us that's how i imagine it so if it helps you it helps you right well it's a good metaphor okay so at any rate the point is when this when the sin occurs the godly soul is being hijacked it's being forced to come along that's a degradation of the king because the godly soul represents the king it represents god who's being now forced to have this you're putting his face in the filth okay and even if it happens for a moment even if it happens for a moment there's no greater degradation so here's the point in context of what we're talking about please understand that it doesn't matter if you think this is a big sin it's a little sin one of the cardinal sins a sin that you're allowed to uh to to to uh to violate in order to save a life a sin you're not allowed to violate to save a life a sin that could do when israel is still good forget about it stop it stop it there's only one question here does hashem want this hashem tell you he doesn't want this if it's something that shem says he doesn't want then it doesn't matter at the level there are no levels it's a disconnection and it's a degradation of the king himself even if it happens for a second even if it happens yes i know afterwards you could repair it it doesn't change the fact that at that moment the the separation is total and abject okay so we'll continue next week with chapter 25. we're at the hotel yeah