Text-Based Tanya Class—Week #28

all right welcome to weekly tanya i don't know if people noticed but this week i think out of shabbos we uploaded all of the shiodim from this year starting from class 1 where we did the malakit where we did the preface the authors or the compilers introduction and i think there was 25 of these classes up until today i'm not sure exactly the number but around 25 they were all they've all been on youtube all year we upload them immediately to youtube uh but i think ed of shabbos table just uploaded all of them to all the podcast platforms like spotify and google podcasts and itunes so if you consume your content that way your friends consume their content that way please let them know about that and even if you are a regular here like where's tamar she was telling me how she's walking in that she just caught up on double speed as she's walking in she listened to last week on double speed to make sure that she wouldn't have to burden the class asking any questions what did i miss last week no she's not going to have to do that because she list where did you do it on youtube on youtube right but now you could do it on spotify and on itunes and on google podcast and your favorite podcast platforms okay so even though no one is going to have to ask what did we learn last week but i always try to do a little review anyway to give context especially when there are new regulars here so let's just fill in the blank we're learning a safer called tanya and we call it tanya the author called it say for shall benin a guidebook how to become an intermediate person an intermediate person he's not a tzadik he's not a russia he's an intermediate and we explained what's a russia a person a good person he just doesn't always do the right thing what's a tadik zadek is this incredible uh holy godly person who doesn't even want doesn't even feel temptation to ever do something wrong yeah a very rare person a banana is a person that sometimes they feel the temptation to do wrong but they have behavioral control they don't do the wrong thing they might feel like it but they don't they don't give it okay and we spoke about back in chapter 12 how may i leave that the brain rules over the heart and the way that we explained that was impulse control you feel like doing the wrong thing okay well you don't have to do it you're not an animal you're a human being you can choose not to give in to your desire and that was the first tool that we spoke about just inhibition then we in the previous chapter chapter we spoke about mayaks although in a little bit of a new way which is not to use the brain to override the desires of the heart but to use the brain through meditation to create new desires in the heart that was last week chapter 16. to use the brain through meditation to create new desires so if you meditate on hashem you will come to feel greater love and awe of hashem and that would give us the ability to align ourselves emotionally with the behaviors that we're committed to okay you want to ask someone yeah is the meditation what where's the intellect in meditation well you don't meditate with your elbow meditation is an intellectual exercise okay so as we very good you're quoting from chapter do you remember you want to show off yes correct she goes like this yeah chapter three that the emotions of the children of intellect okay so if we want an emotion emotions come from intellect so we go and we meditate that's the intellect and we create an emotion or i could flip your statement and say the opposite way instead of saying where's the intellect in the in the meditation i i might say and this might be even more salient to say it this way the purpose of every meditation is to create an emotion what is a meditation it's a cognitive process but what's its objective to create an emotion if i intellectually cannot make sense of hashem which we can't correct how do i develop emotions yeah but see you can always say well hashem is unknowable all right and therefore what what do you want to do not think about him every man could say that about his wife i'm never going to understand her that's why i don't think about it oh like the water from the end of chapter four that tied up very well very good that said in the end of chapter four that hashem puts himself in the torah like the water that flows downward so through torah you can grasp hashem that is correct very good that hashem gives himself to us in a novel format now is that all there is obviously not there's an infinite essence beyond what we can grasp but that does not relieve us of the duty to understand all that we can grasp we're not trying to understand hashem that's that's impossible we're trying to fill our brains with as much as we can understand of hashem the goal isn't go figure out hashem it'll never happen the goal is you know that brain hashem gave you instead of using it to think about all types of other interesting things and developing emotional attachments to those things use your brain to think about hashem and nurture your feelings for him you meditate and the feelings are not love and all then there's then the meditation's wrong then you're meditating wrong then you're meditating wrong so this is a valid question people people came over to me after last week and they said what what do we meditate on and i said you know it's funny 41-50 chapters 41-50 there are 53 chapters in tanya chapters 41-50 are at length describing the various meditations to produce not only not only love and all but different kinds of love and different kinds of awe but for some reason i have theories why in chapter 16 when he introduces the notion of meditation he doesn't really tell you what the meditation is about he just says in a very general way to meditate on the greatness of god okay so if we insert a one word in that sentence of the purpose of every meditation is to create is a positive emotion yeah yeah i mean that should go without saying it's a positive emotion yes yes yeah yeah the purpose to create a positive emotion yes yeah yeah okay so could we do chapter 17 okay pedagogy in chapter 17 and now we are poised to understand the verse for it is very near to you this matter in your mouth in your heart that you may do it do you guys recognize that verse you recognize that verse where did we see this verse it's one of the 12 silk and that is true yeah but where do we see this verse in tanya on the title page you remember on the title page you're you don't have to remember the title on the title page it said that this book say for shabbat in him the manual how to be an intermediate is based m it is based on the premise of the verse this matter is very near to you in your heart in your mouth that you may do it and then it says right under there le va er to explain who caught if how precisely is this accessible near means accessible how is this an accessible or attainable goal is the title page and the preface the same thing no the title page is a title page the preface starts on another page okay so this is even before the present before the preface but we learned the title page and i have evidence on spotify you can go look it up we learned the title page so back in the title page we said that it is attainable it is attainable don't say it's unattainable it is attainable all right so now we are poised at this point in chapter 17 we're poised to understand properly what does it mean that the title this matter torah observance is attainable especially when he says in your heart in my heart like if you would tell me i could do it and go through the motions and i don't always have to feel it i get that because he explained to me already that you can do things that you don't want to do and you can not do things that you do want to do and you just use uh impulse control but to actually make yourself feel what you don't feel i don't know if i can do that well based on our previous chapter we're going to understand relatively speaking what that means to get yourself to feel what you're supposed to feel and not feel what you're not supposed to feel basically he he formulates it as a question a wonderful question just the question itself is so wonderful because you see so often religious people are afraid to ask questions where human experience contradicts scripture very often the answer to a question is well it says entire that such and such yeah i know it says that but that hasn't been my experience there's an old joke about a guy it's a little bit of a sexist joke but maybe it's not i don't know whatever what don't we're not snowflakes okay fine salt all right so the joke it's not even funny it's one of my jokes but there's a guy whose wife is hitting him with a broom i don't even that's not really funny it's spousal abuse but she's hitting him with a broom and he's hiding under the table and he's screaming at her that was a joke you could laugh you know the pasek it's from uh vericious it's one of the curses of chava that after she leads adam to eat from the eight zadas so after eve tells adam to eat from the tree of knowledge they both eat from the tree of knowledge so one of the curses is ali your yearning will be for your husband and he will dominate over over you he'll he'll rule over you so the guy is under the table his wife's hitting him with a broom and he's screaming he's invoking the scriptural truth well how could this be this is not like i protest to this reality this can't be you can't be dominating me vahu yamcha i'm the husband i dominate over you you guys know such people it's not about the it's not a marriage observation i'm making right now i make the observation sometimes when you ask a religious person a question they'll just tell you well as i state this is what it says yeah but it doesn't align with my experience sorry what can i tell you okay the altar is not going to do that to you he in fact not only he'll answer such a question he's asking the question he's asking the question de la hoya seemingly who beloved this statement that the toyota made that it is cody that is accessible it is attainable to fulfill traitor in your heart beloved means in your heart that means emotionally this statement the total is making a claim the turn is saying it is a is it it's a totally attainable thing to align yourself emotionally not just behaviorally but emotionally with what toyota wants you to do so the altitude says this statement seemingly it goes against our experience in other words i have empirical evidence that this is not the case seemingly it's a good question tata's making a claim it is attainable to be emotionally aligned with what hashem wants from you that you should want what hashem wants and not what would not want what hashem doesn't want okay that's beautiful that's ideal but you're telling me that that's correct that that's attainable that hasn't been my experience that hasn't been my experience you're gonna have to explain that to me now look at the next words the altitude cuts off an easy slam dunk argument that he could have made if he were one of these rabbis who just likes to close the conversation and get you out of his hair he writes in brackets and twitter is eternal you know why he writes that because an easy answer to just dismiss the whole conversation would be well kikorova lacha da ma was spoken by maishra bainum so moses was saying that to the people of his time for them it was accessible but for us it's not and then he could just close the whole conversation that's why you have a problem with it because we can't do that anymore the altar is not going to accept that he says no no is eternal so if it says it in tata at any time that it is accessible to align your emotions with hashem's will then it is it is always true it's true for us and now we're now we're in a pickle we're gonna have to figure out how to reconcile the scriptural statement with our personal experience okay i just i'm pointing this out because i think it's such a wonderfully human way of pursuing clarity it's it's very validating that the question starts with the premise that your experience is is valid and that we're not just going to dismiss your experience for being seemingly in conflict with torah because in truth we're not afraid that that's going to be the conclusion no human experience can be in conflict with toyota because toyota creates all human experience we know that like the zayer says his talk about iso alma hashem looked into the toyota and created the world toyota's the blueprint for reality so nothing in reality can truly contradict toyota there can just be some things that need to be understood a little bit better how they don't contradict torah okay all right so he says it seems to be against our experience she aim cut it's not exceedingly close and here he seizes upon the word because the verse made a claim not only it's caught if it's caught of made with the amplifier not just it's close it's very close he says that's not our experience that it's very close to truly transfer my loves from whatever my pleasures are over to doing what hashem wants for me now i could behaviorally comply i could go along with what hashem wants for me but to really change my heart and get myself to want only what he wants and to not want want what he doesn't want i have not experienced that that's easy and yet the trader makes a claim caught of made it is very accessible and it wouldn't it wouldn't be a problem if the toyota would have just said kikarov [Applause] it is very easy to do it but it had to go there and says in your mouth in your heart it had to say in your heart well i'm sorry my experience is it's not easy to change my heart oh kamisha kazumagamata like it says in gemara and now the altar is going to build the argument he's he's he's making the understanding he's making the question stronger at this point he's not answering yet he's still building the question the question is based on our personal experience it's not easy to do this and now the alt-right is going to say oh by the way if you're a talmud hochum you could even find some gemaras that will support that argument and he's supporting the argument he's saying like it says in gemada is it so that fear of hashem is a small matter the call chicane ava and how much more so love that's logic love is harder than than all that's why awe is a first step love is more expert mode until the gamut itself says when uh when it's speaking about the verse that meisha is speaking to the the jewish people and telling them all hashem wants is for you to fear him and the kamada asks all hashem once that's a small matter it's not a small matter it's a big deal and here although adds another source from our sages to amplify the question to strengthen the question our [Applause] have true control over their heart means their heart is in their domain yeah so in chapter 12 we learned that first tool the brain rules over the heart you're telling us now it's not so easy in chapter 12 we learned the brain rules over the heart meaning you can bypass the heart that's what we learned yes we learned that you can skip the emotion and to go to the behavior and don't worry about how you feel you can look like a tonic on the outside but be conflicted on the inside and that was the first tool that we learned in chapter 12. now we're talking about something different to actually change the feelings and he's saying that's not a small deal changing feelings is not a small deal now the claim in the possibility makes it sound very easy but he says hey that's not our experience it's not our experience that it's so easy b the gamut acknowledges that it's not a small matter to achieve yiras hashem see sadiq [Applause] have that kind of control to will themselves to feel what they're supposed to feel other people don't have that ability so we have a question we have a very valid question here but this is what the alternative is saying at this point in tanya we actually have all the information we need already to answer this question we already have all the information that we need to answer this question okay allah but rather now he's going to start the answer he's going to start the answer now okay when the verse says to do it it's explaining it's not just a laundry list is modifying the words that come before it in other words what degree of emotional congruence are we able to achieve enough la assayse to produce the right behavior you understand what he's saying he's not saying you're going to be able to achieve complete transformation of the heart no that's who that's what he is saying and and also he's not saying the opposite extreme which is forget about your heart you'll never you'll never make a dent in your emotions just just bypass it and go straight to the behaviors what he's saying is you can achieve some degree of emotional mastery not complete certainly not complete or you would be a tsadic but some degree what degree enough to get you to do the thing that you need to do so you may be conflicted still you will be conflicted still but there's enough of a tipping point where my emotions are strong enough to translate into action yeah so that's a second there's two things going on there's two tools and we're using both of them one tool is from chapter 12 which is who cares how you feel and that's valid that's a great tool sometimes who cares how you feel just do the right thing but now he's adding a second tool which is and you know what you can even get yourself to feel the right things now will i achieve that completely no i won't achieve that completely so i always have the first tool which is force yourself even when you don't want to kind of take over and say no right that's the first tool which is you acknowledge the feeling and then you make a decision is this a good feeling to act on or not a good feeling to act on that's the first tool here we're saying i can actually start to change my feelings to be more desirable feelings yeah which is a which is a bigger claim that he's making but he's explaining that hmm well we do we do but he didn't he didn't say it yet in this chapter but really you know what he's going to say he's going to say it's what i told you in chapter 16. meditation meditation meditation i told you in chapter 16 meditation now do you remember in chapter 16 that what was the the the one vocab word that i wanted you to know from chapter to vunis right very good tavunace are a technical term for something it's not exactly an emotion but it's not just cold hard intellect either it's i call it an opinion sort of a quasi-emotion so he's going to go back to that term from chapter 16 to nice and he's going to say when it comes to an emotion that's good enough good enough to get you to do something is are good enough to translate into action are they full-fledged emotions like the tzadik feels where his love of hashem is more visceral to him than his love of anything of this world no no and we're not going to try to compare ourselves to that because we'll never equal to that but appreciation i call it appreciations as well yeah appreciations or opinions or yeah yeah maybe i don't know because we we use the word inclination so much to describe something that's even pre-cognitive so i don't want to confuse people yeah no shall i loshmobolishma is really talking about the first tool where you don't have an emotion just do it anyway and maybe someday you'll get into it this is talking about something different this is saying go meditate and try to create some emotions will you completely transform your emotions no but you could muster enough emotion to translate into motivation for the right action okay so we need a meditation class i guess okay but let's let's continue here the text okay so he says ella de la say say when the verse says to do it write salema [Applause] means enough love to get you to do the mitzvah and that's it slave you want real technical terms for it this is called ruse of the liber the arousal of the heart which is stuck in the recesses of the heart it's not bursting forth gom ki aina bisgalas liber kirishbiesh it's not glowing like a coal fire the dover and this to get yourself to feel a little bit of a feeling not a major roaring fire of a feeling just enough good enough the dover is that this card of my aid and it's easy for anyone who has a brain in his head i i feel my personal opinion that is the probably the funniest line in time because it is funny it is there's no way you could read that and not chuckle like the alta deb is like anyone can do this well there's one caveat you have to have a brain in your head okay okay but you only have to do what you have to do like any skill right so don't get don't get frustrated if it doesn't uh work the first few thousand times okay you gotta be patient listen to what he says your brain is under your dominion remember earlier he said said you have control over your brain and what does it mean oh i don't have control over my mind you do because listen to what he says the yahoo is you could meditate in your brain about whatever you want to meditate on doesn't mean you won't have intrusive thoughts of course you will but you just ignore those the point is you can will yourself to focus on a subject mentally you cannot will yourself directly to have an emotion but by willing yourself to have a certain to hold a certain thought you will indirectly create an emotion by initiating the process whereby emotions are formed does that make sense so we're defining the parameters of our ability to create emotions yeah you could use this for anything but why would you do something it's it's not talking about practice makes perfect or fake until you make it it's talking about a cognitive exercise that produces emotions this is not just do it until it becomes more natural to you this is not what that was that was an earlier tool what were you gonna say oh this okay that was an earlier tool the earlier tool was just keep doing it and you know you don't have to like it maybe eventually you'll just get used to it which is very very valid and we're not discarding that tool he's just adding another tool which is by the way you can change your emotion to some degree to what degree enough to get you to want to do what you're doing does it mean that you're going to be bursting with feeling no but you'll at least have enough emotional congruency to the action that it won't be absolute torture for you so that's what he's explaining when the toyota says it's saying like this it is very accessible anyone anyone with a brain in their head can meditate on subjects that will bring you to love hashem to the degree because there's many degrees of loving hashem to the degree that it will serve as sufficient motivation to go then and willingly do what hashem wants you to do that's what he's saying yeah i'm just thinking to myself like they've been situations in my life where i've been in an extremely sad situation and yet i cannot cry and i want to cry right so that's kind of like where you see is like the brain knows what to do but the emotion that's not coming forth well yeah that example is a complicated example and without derailing the class and asking you more about those examples i would think that some of those examples have to do with a self-defense mechanism that hashem gave us to refuse to fully cognitively process information that would destroy us no because what you're describing where there's something that's very sad and you can't even cry i think that's protection hashem made us that sometimes he won't let our brains fully wrap themselves around something because if we could then it would lead to an emotional reaction that we can't handle okay i think that's a separate mechanism what we're talking about here is where there's a neutral subject or at least right now it's neutral to me because i don't yet have any emotion about it and if i will focus cognitively on the subject it will automatically lead to some level of feeling for the subject well the subject here being hashem the subject here being hashem and the difference that we learn between the so a question a very foundational question is this the premise of chabad chabad meaning the name that the altar gave to his system as opposed to other students of the magid who were his colleagues who had a different approach yes this is precisely or this is an example precisely of what the altars approach was that one should create feelings for hashem through meditation and i i i will add through study of mystical texts and meditation because really what are you meditating on it's not just going and walking in the in the park and meditating on the blades of grass this is thinking about mystical texts that explain the inner workings of the the universe in order for you to fully embrace hashem like the other like the other whatever philosophies are it's more intellectual it's more studying right well historically speaking the the the difference between the al-taraba's approach and the other successors of was not so much that he was arguing the intellect has to be connected to emotion but that emotion has to come from intellect because their argument was that intellect is not so important in fact to the extent that some of them were unjustifiably characterized as anti-intellectual that was one of the criticisms that the opponents of hasidis would they would sort of lampoon the siddhim by characterizing them as anti-intellectual they were not anti-intellectual by any stretch but their approach to vegas to attachment to hashem was one that emphasized pure emotion whereas the al-tarabi said that each individual not just the rabbit but every individual has to engage in the mental work okay let's let's continue here maybe i think we can finish the chapter so a person may not directly control his heart but he directly controls his mind and he can choose to meditate on whatever he chooses okay that's step one step two now that you know you can meditate on whatever you choose uh if you choose to meditate on the greatness of the infinite one menela automatically automatically if you understand the mechanics outlined in chapter three that the middles are emotions are the children of intellect so you understand when you have mother and you have father you're going to have children mother is bina and father is kakuma and the children are the middles so automatically yailid you give birth literally give birth at least in your brain it might not get further out and go into you fully into your heart but at least in your brain you'll have enough love to want to cleave to hashem by doing his mitzvahs and learning his tata vizek other men after all this is the entire purpose of man like shleiman alex said that color of them what's the purpose of man bottom line get her done do the mitzvahs say because today meaning this world is the place of action it's the place for getting it done shahadyam this world or today means the world of action tomorrow meaning the next world is the world for spiritual reward commission is like it's explained elsewhere so the point of this world or let's call it the embodiment phase of your soul's existence is all about physical action so bottom line how do we evaluate the potency of any emotion well how much action did it result in so you're going to say well my emotions are so puny and laughable compared to the emotion that the tsaddik has yeah that's true but that's not really relevant or i shouldn't say it's not relevant but it's not it's not the most important thing the most important thing is how does it translate to action so does your emotion bring you to action great that's what we're looking for that's what we're looking for no don't no no no no you don't get to say that not to me and not here because i want to tell you something you're cr you're making a very valid social critique that is unfounded right here this is the antidote to that disease what we're talking about is the antidote don't say then you end up like the altar just gave you the formula for that problem let's talk about it because you raised it and it's on everyone's mind yes we have a is it too inflammatory a word to say a plague of people who are observant who do not feel anything for what they're doing and they're going through the motions yes please do not attribute that to i don't think you meant that that was triggering something that you heard in another class not this class okay let's make this very clear it's 100 an issue people who are going through the motions and saying let's just get it done let's just do it they're uninspired they have nothing to transmit to their children because they don't even know why they're doing it themselves huge issue that's 100 agreed anyone with a brain in their head knows that this is an issue in the orthodox community we all know that okay what the altareb is saying here is the opposite of that he's saying you could completely bypass your emotions and in fact when you're starting off i want you to do that and that's what he taught us in chapter 12. when you're starting off i do want you to bypass your emotions just do the right thing even though you don't feel like it but he doesn't leave you there he says and now i want you to revisit your emotions i want you to have emotions now i know you you're a perfectionist so you're going to say but my emotions will never be as intense as it's addicts so he says i know that but remember when you're looking at your emotion don't judge your emotion based on comparing it to what sadik judge your emotion based on one criterion did it translate to the right action so he's not at all god forbid saying that as long as you do it i don't care how you feel he's not saying that at all to the contrary he could have completely glossed over the whole emotion issue he's choosing to bring it up he's choosing to to to to bring up the concept of emotion and say to you even though it is true i acknowledge you will never achieve full mastery of your emotions because of them only tadika can do that however you can and you must have emotional alignment with the behaviors of of torah and judaism and the way to achieve and then he tells you the way to do that the way to achieve emotional alignment not full alignment but to some degree to whatever degree on your level you can muster is through meditation through meditation to develop the unconsciousness so that because that's only okay so we've got a few different steps here and all everyone said a different step it's interesting if i really want to i would analyze why each one of you said the step that you said it probably is yeah i would probably find out a lot about you by anna but yes consciousness behavior emotion okay i i'm sure there is significant to that but at any rate let's put it all together you have to develop and it's not even in that order but it's interesting how you consciousness behavior emotion okay it's actually consciousness emotion behavior you develop divine consciousness which gives birth to divine emotions which translate to divine behaviors and we need to have all three components we must have all three components it originates it originates from meditation yeah okay let's continue here the brain rules over the heart naturally by birth over the left ventricle of the heart and the mouth and the limbs and all of the the limbs of action so now as as i've been explaining he's ex he's calling this tool even though that term was already used previously to describe something different i think i've told this to you before but mayak shalt alev changes it doesn't change meaning but it gains an additional meaning in this chapter when it was introduced to us means the ability to bypass your emotions and just do the right thing even when you don't feel like it at all now my action to life also means the ability to indirectly create emotions through meditation they're both true and we're gonna do both we're gonna do both okay now here's a little bit of a sticky part i have trouble teaching this part yeah because he states here a caveat he says anybody can control their brain and meditate on hashem and get themselves to love hashem unless he's a russian russia emis doesn't mean a regular russia you know what we learned in tanya is there a lot of very sweet good people from people god-fearing people who are risholium because remember what a veda one of it is already a russia so russia doesn't mean such a terrible guy could be very good person 99.9 of it of what he does all day is mitzvahs and he does point one percent of vedas that's called the russia he explained that in pedical of according to gemara okay so there are very fine people who are ashorium we're not talking about that russia emis is a whole other category a pathological russia now one of the problems i always have every time i teach this is there's always some neurotic jew i usually teach tanya to jews there's always some neurotic jew who comes to me and says i'm the russia bahamas you're not the russia bahamas okay you're not no one in this class is the russia the emmys okay all right don't do not go there so he says there's someone who's a russia but ms the wicked are in the domain of their heart their heart is not in their domain rabbi dr twersky oliver shalom who was a teacher of mine in many ways he used to explain this and i'm not saying this is shot in the gemara or in tanya but he used to use this concept to explain addiction what is powerlessness powerlessness mean he used to say in that indian the person doesn't have control it's as if their power of choice was taken away from them because i know a lot of people have a difficulty with this concept don't i have free choice what is the wicked are under the control of their heart and their heart is not under their control yeah it's either gummy yeah yeah i mean i don't know if you call it that but now he explains why this happened how this happened i don't know why but how it happened that this person became such a russia that they no longer have that ability to create emotions for hashem it's a punishment for how bad their sins were when toyota said it was not speaking about those exceptions those people i'm sorry all bets are off and again i have to i have to say it again because there's someone sitting here or someone watching there who's like this is me he's talking about me i'm not talking about you okay if you in fact i i can't i can't promise you this but to the best that i'm able to promise that anything i say that i didn't see black on white is true anything that i use my own logic to come up with i never saw this black on white but my logic tells me and i'm as confident about this statement as i can be about any logical deduction that i have made on my own if you're if you have enough self-awareness to even question whether this applies to you it doesn't apply to you it's daftka the guy who's listening to this he's like oh you know who he's talking about my father-in-law right that's the guy that okay maybe who is being discussed here okay kiba ms e f shalom these people cannot start serving hashem until they clear up their past magdalena they have to break the clippers which are serving as an iron partition between them and their father in heaven they break that iron partition by breaking their own hearts through bitterness kamehameha alakam is like desire explains that in order to break this clipper you have to break your heart ein sham passes pinches have to do before they can start serving hashem is called the lower level chuva to take the hay the lower hay of hashem's four letter name yud kevovke out of the clipper where they put it through their actions shusaid golov that location of the lower hay which corresponds to malchus caught in klippa and needing to be brought up out of klippa that condition is also known as the exile of the shrine as malchus when the jews went into the edomite roman exile the shrine accompanied them and what that means is the hainu kesha adam asam isa adam when a person does an adamite action when a person sins made in imam he brings the spark of god which is enlivening his soul with him because after all he is a jew even though he's sinning and he puts that spark of godliness into exile just like when the jews collectively went into exile they brought the shrine with them so when a jew individually does something wrong so he's bringing with him the godly spark and putting it into exile yeah remember that godly spark why is it stuck there along for the sin coming along for the ride because it's in the godly soul is invested in the animal soul and the animal soul is uh is making him sin she believes mali which as we learn in chapter nine is located in the left ventricle of the heart russia may shall has been and this animal soul in the left ventricle is what is dominating him when he and and controlling the small city remember from chapter nine the small city metaphor while he is still in russia and his holy nephesh his godly soul is conquered right now and it has to it's being forced it's hijacked it has to come along for the ride so it is in exile when he breaks his heart through bitterness through contrition through through remorse so then that in turn breaks this negative hold that is on him and he come in the philosophy then the lower hay is freed disencumbered from its gulles and it rises up and stands commission is like it's explained elsewhere okay so those are the mechanics of shiva for someone who is in such a dire situation that he can't even start doing what we're learning about here in tanya somebody who until he has let's say a bottoming out experience until he hits bottom and he's completely broken he can't do the the work here of tanya but again that's not any of you but it's interesting to know about it's an interesting case study okay fine now you know about it but for everyone here and everyone here let's do the work that it describes in tanya and even though you might not be perfect in your actions yet even though you might technically still be in the category not of atari or even of a banananee okay so we'll work on our behaviors but um you're not so bad off that you have to follow what he says here that this guy he can't even start using these tools until he has this terrible uh experience of of complete ego death no the second definition marks out okay so the first mayak shout out to alive is force yourself well what about my emotions bypass your emotions the second way to shout the life is change yourself actually try to get yourself to feel what you what you should be feeling even though you know that you'll never completely get yourself there and you'll never have those emotions be as intense as they could be or as intense as other emotions that you have but it'll be enough enough to what consciousness emotion behavior consciousness brain consciousness emotion behavior is brain heart body brain heart body so is this russia at the point where this guy at the end of chapter 17 yeah is this russia at a point where the animal soul is in complete autonomy yeah yeah he's out of control yeah completely out of control yeah so he can't do any of the stuff that we've been we've been learning about the person we're all pleasure seekers this is a special this is somebody who's we all pleasures ourselves right is this the person who can't stop this he just can't stop right yeah that's what rabbi dr torski said this is like this in a description of addiction yeah yeah yeah okay we're all good okay all right