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Please welcome Mr. Eli Gewirtz Schlit.
Um Brooklyn, Williamsburg specifically.
Williamsburg. Yeah.
Okay.
Born in America?
>> Yeah.
Um
And the the zaidy came from Radomsk.
Poland. Poland. Okay. Yeah. And the
other zaidy came from Lodz. Lodz. Um And
the babas?
>> The babas
uh English. Uh from Tisulic. And that's
where the baba was from.
Okay.
It's a mix of Polish and English. Yeah.
And
The way it used to be. Uh very
very uh not chassidish, but not uh not
litvish. Heimish. Okay.
No.
No. Is it I remember when the first You
think when the first pizza shop opened?
It was going to be a pizza shop. It was
going to be on the line around in the
block.
Um hundreds of people.
25 cents.
That's nice. Yeah. Wow.
Mr. Goldstein. Yeah.
Not Jerusalem, too. Not Jerusalem, too.
No. Okay.
Um
In Williamsburg in in the
Torah V'Daas.
Yeah. Wilson Street, yeah. Okay. 206
Wilson Street.
And
I mean when 9 years old. I remember I
think
Yeah?
>> Yeah. Yeah. The quality of your Yiddish
life
was the highest. Normal.
Friendly.
Everybody was
everybody was equal. Yeah, there ain't
no you know, there was there were no
There were chassidim. It wasn't majority
chassidim.
Okay. Okay.
Was okay with it? No.
It's uh
It's a Litvish blood.
That's That was uh I'm going to name it
every everything was good.
Okay.
What was the good tossed?
In Yiddishkeit as
it had not so.
Uh
It's I would have to say in the the
kashrus.
I would have to say in the mashgichim.
What was it given?
What was it tossed?
The emphasis was given What was given?
In the way it is.
In the hearts. The pnimius? The pnimius.
Yeah.
Not not the chitzonius. Not not
Halacha is given
very very
important. Like chashash shabbos not
There wasn't a pressure. There wasn't a
pressure that
you have to fit into a certain box.
Uh that's how it used to be. That's how
it used to be.
Pinkel chassidish.
Normal. What can I say?
With them together. With the shcheinim.
Good morning. Good day. What are you
doing? What are you doing all the time?
Until now they say that the people in
Williamsburg
remember the olden days.
Yeah, I have
I took with me the class picture from
Torah V'Daas the the from the first
grade and the second grade.
Well,
I have to say getting a picture from
from then. Mhm. Um I have a picture from
from then. From then, yeah.
And we used to go in
when I was going to move but then I got
out of it and went to Flatbush.
Flatbush.
Okay. From Flatbush?
My old
I didn't
know
the Flatbush.
I mean they they had
they had more than
as the
shkoyim came around to the to the
neighborhood. But they didn't name that
neighborhood. We were living on Hewes
Street. Lynch Street is going to be a
certain not shkoyim there.
And it's it's going to be you know, not
so safe.
Um I mean it's the same type of thing
with them. Uh the the neighbors were not
safe. Not safe.
>> Okay, Flatbush was better? Yeah.
Yeah. I mean Flatbush is the same type
of thing as it was
here. We had
We had the first sukkah on the block.
First sukkah? First sukkah. 19th and and
K. The first sukkah. What was What was
the other thing?
They weren't
so friendly then. Uh-huh. A sukkah was
something uh
Uh you know, A similar as that there is
a a Yid.
>> Yeah. Okay, interesting. And we were
going to learn in the other Torah
V'Daas. Yeah. Yeah.
I continued the
Torah V'Daas in Williamsburg uh until
until high school.
High school I went to Torah V'Daas in
Flatbush.
Okay. And after that you must have gone
to Israel.
After that I went to Yeshiva Adelphia.
Adelphia? Yeah. Okay.
For 3 years.
After that I went to Israel for 2 years.
Where in Where in Israel?
Uh Itri.
Itri? Definitely Itri from
I think the biggest next biggest for for
Americans. It's going to be the
300 uh bochurim and young guys. But
I had maybe maybe 100 Americans.
And uh
After them this
After them there was
a bit of
machlokes. I don't know. In the Yeshiva?
Uh in yeah. It's The the the all
Americans have left. I I know that. I
have gone to the I came to the the
basement in the morning. And it's going
to be a window. Yeah, came out the
window. Window in the morning. Not
Everyone ran away? Everyone ran away.
What was the reason?
I wasn't in the in the room. I wasn't I
wasn't there.
I heard it was something
a Krieger
I don't know.
They were in the other Yeshiva.
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Okay, very funny.
So
um
dating
um
on Rabbi
at the camp my wife
had my wife
everything
to get to get a wife about all American
um
Do you have a wife?
You have a wife.
uh
the
You have a wife. such young
I have a girlfriend. And I
I have my skin when I was learning with
me.
I think
So bleiben dort, ne? Mhm.
bis hast du ne
Hast du ne mit dir? mit dir? Ja.
And
nach der ist es normal
Ist noch der hast du mich hast du
getauscht? Ja, ja. And the
Sie ist gegangen
Schwester hat in a nurse a nurse, yeah.
in Shaare Zedek Hospital Sie ist
Amerikaner? Sie ist Amerikaner
They often gemacht Aliya. um
15 Jahre vor dem richtig gemacht.
Sie ist aufgewachsen in Israel. Ja.
That's right. And nach der hast du ne
wir haben nicht gewohnt.
uh
Ich habe gemacht. Ja. Ja. uh erstens
geblieben in Israel uh
Ich gelernt in in in Mishkan Hatorah. um
um Ich gewohnt Give it more time. Give
it more time. Mhm.
bleiben der Yeshiva Ja. Ich bin gegangen
zu Shacharis weil mein
Shabbos
Ich bin gegangen am Shabbos.
um nach dem um Ich habe gegangen zu By
the way, wie soll ich machen das? Wieso
kann man auf dem Shabbos?
Also ich No.
schreiben schreiben the Ich bin Araber,
was ich geschrieben. Okay. um Was man
nicht gekannt der darf ihn machen am
Shabbos
Wir können ihn
Aber Wir haben nicht diskutiert weil
weil es ist ein
uh Es ist ein Refie Sache. Ja.
Ich habe in der Job. Sie ist nicht in
der Job
gewesen. Ich verstehe. Ja. Aber Ich
gewesen ein Driver. Ja. Was hat sie
genommen zu Ja, ja. Ah, wow. uh
Ja.
Haben Sie da vorhin gelebt in der Ja, so
sometimes sometimes Ich bin gegangen
sometimes Ich bin gefahren mit Ich habe
Ich habe gehabt a night shift
Sie nicht gewohnt. Right. Ich habe
gegangen in der Nacht. Verstehe.
Okay, so back to
us Ich habe mit uns gegangen in der
Nacht. Ich bin ein
Ich bin gegangen nach dem
nach dem Ich habe uh uh gegangen zurück
zu Amerika für Pesach
nach der Pesach gegangen zu
der Yeshiva wo wir haben gelernt in
Philadelphia. Mhm. mit dem
Ich bin gegangen für Purim. Okay. mit
dem für Purim uh der Rosh Yeshiva hat
mir gesagt Er hat mir gefragt Ich will
dort
kommen zu seiner am Lamed 10th grade
Rabbi in die Yeshiva Ja. Okay.
mit dem Tanzen mit dem Purim Ich muss da
muss ich gehen schicken.
um Ich habe nicht gehabt gerade. mit
Ja. Ich gehe gekommen zurück zu Amerika
mein mein mein That's it. You decided to
go. Ja, ja, ja. Wie viel Jahre zurück
ist gewesen?
1981 1981. Das ist 19 ja 2040 Jahre 1982
Ja, ich bin noch da. Ja. 40 Jahre
zurück. Ja. Mama schon Mama schon hat
das hat das Ich habe schon Purim. Ja. So
it's really the anniversary. Exactly.
Okay, so
uh Wir sind gegangen zu Israel zu
bringen dann die Sachen. Ja. Ja. um very
quickly
and
I remember They wanted to split up a
class.
Es gewesen der 10th grade. Es war um zu
teilen auf zwei auf zwei also
Sie haben gesagt
ein Rabbi
no experience no the
Also ich gefragt damals hat er gesagt
ich will umziehen nach Amerika für
gefragt also ich will bleiben in Israel.
Ich habe damals gefragt also wir sind
dort
für für small time short period of time
but but Ich habe nicht gefragt für
acht Monate um
That's it. Mein Koidel Mein Koidel Leben
ist gewesen acht acht Monate. acht neun
Monate
Ja. Also ich habe gesagt dann habe ich
ein bisschen länger. Ja. Aber
Ich habe schon 40 Jahre Mhm.
in Also ich gegangen ich gegangen wohnen
in in Philadelphia.
Ich gewohnt in Lakewood. Ich habe nicht
gelernt in Lakewood.
Es war in der Nacht ein bisschen
Ich gelernt nicht geleiten BMG in in bis
mich gewohnt ja.
Aber gewohnt in Lakewood Ich bin
gekommen mit Car jeden Tag zu zu
Philadelphia. Wie lange ist gegangen mit
Car? uh um
30 20 Minuten 25 Minuten Ja.
Lakewood 45 Jahre zurück. Wie sieht das
aus gewesen?
Mhm.
nicht das gleiche
besser oder weniger
different different um
Wir können sagen was was ist besser es
ist
Es kann mehr Es sagt mir ein bisschen.
mehr ein bisschen ja sicher sagt mir Wie
viel Jahre gewohnt damals in Lakewood? I
don't know numbers. Es ist ein klein ein
klein klein klein aber nicht
So different also
der der Restaurant war sehr Sie haben
ein Restaurant? Ja, Iron Horse
Restaurant Iron Horse ist noch offen Es
ist der Halster dort ne?
on on Clifton? on Clifton, ja. Okay. uh
Das gewesen der Gaps Team ist gewesen
Halster ist jetzt Gaps Team hat Halster
ist
Ja, das ist der Bakery gewesen. Der
Bakery aber ja
Das war eigentlich gewesen der Gaps
Team. So das gewesen.
mehr ein bisschen mehr ein bisschen
Okay. in welche Gegend Ich stand dort
ich war in der Gegend von der Yeshiva.
Ja. 7th and Madison 7th and Madison Das
ist drei Blocks weg von der Yeshiva. Ja.
7th and Madison ist die Yeshiva. Ja.
Okay.
Ich muss jeden Tag kommen
Philadelphia How was that? Wie ist
gewesen der der Job?
uh
Ich habe nicht gedacht also ich war sein
ein Rabbi.
um ein Rabbi It's the wrong word. I'm a
Lamed. Okay. um
Aber der Rosh Yeshiva hat gesagt dass
ich kann es tun.
I gave it a try.
um Es gewesen very very very good
um Ich habe gesprochen mit den Bucherim.
Ja. Ja.
Ich sehe nicht die Bucherim hatten Sie
haben Sie rufen mir Rabbi
Really? Ja, ja, ja. Nice. Noch ein I had
a lot of I had a lot of challenges.
The reason the the the Siba war
geteilt die Klasse
Es gewesen
ein bisschen mehr challenging etliche
Bucherim kommen von
von Deal von von andere Platz
Es nicht gewesen perfect fit Wir haben
gedacht zu teilen die Klasse. Sie ich
habe gehabt Wir müssen der der
ein bisschen schwache Kinder Die waren
ein bisschen mehr difficult. Oh ja.
Okay. Und ich habe gehabt mit der
Sprache Ich habe gemacht der Sache
mistakes. Hashem Ich gelernt der Sache.
Sie Sie Ich gelernt von sehr Sache mehr.
Aha. Ja. Was uh Wir suchen diese Sache.
mit Talmud mit dem Koidel
Was soll was kann man lernen von der
Talmud Moshel?
one lesson
Was kann man lernen?
What comes to mind is
Liebschaft makes everything. Es
um habe sie lieb
kann alles über über kommen.
alles Ja. uh It's an exaggeration but
Ich gedenke wenn Ich habe es [laughter]
I had no experience
then. I'm learning.
from
my notebook and
I wrote it on the blackboard with
you know, the white
I wrote it on the blackboard and
I moved I became a spitball.
of him pulling him.
a spitball
What's a spitball?
What's a straw? Yeah. a straw
a straw A straw is a straw.
I'm sorry. It's my fault.
Right?
Okay.
Let me get invited.
I don't know if I'm saying it the right
way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. You ignored
the whole thing. I ignored it. I ignored
it.
Yeah, I didn't notice it.
And then a few days later
I forgot the lesson well well
In this the choir will
This is the normal reaction.
reaction
This is a disgusting thing to do with
you.
I would say to the fact that
Yeah.
It's a beautiful story.
Okay.
Thank you.
So
These long mistakes I must have made in
the yeshiva.
This is not long.
When
this the end of the next year
to the to term circle convention circle
convention, okay. Yeah.
I was very young.
So you're 24 years old? Yeah. Wow. 24
I'm learning, yeah. I got some learning.
And then by the time circle convention
And
After it was the sign a roof for the
institute. for the institute
Twin Rivers, New Jersey. Oh.
The job
I'm learning
is an institute. Right?
Oh.
So then
Perfect. Oh.
You're the perfect person for the job.
Okay.
to Twin Rivers
Just give him one
It's going to be a cure for the Torah, a
cure for day school. And and a shul,
right?
Um it's Twin Rivers. one man was a good
friend
I saw him learn from him, but when they
became from they they moved out.
Wow, this is schwer.
Is it schwer? Okay. I
Now I'm going to consider
a little contradiction
So I should go and come I should go and
kill them then. I got two kids. I know
it was
Yeah, yeah.
very close
So
But then what did you think?
What wrong path? Yeah. Okay.
I have to go
>> [laughter]
>> It is given at this
Um no, I have to go back. I use my own
judgment. Um
Okay.
I have to go back. I meant this is a
lifetime.
Right?
Yeah, it's talking about it.
>> [snorts]
>> Um
One day one day
I'm going to have to move. But
very special
Listen to the fight.
This is half a shul for Philadelphia.
We found for Lakewood.
We found for the last minute for
Lakewood. Not far. Okay.
I have to go to Philadelphia every
morning. Except for Sunday.
Yeah.
I
Um In in Twin Rivers it was Twin Shalom
Terrace and going there.
Wow. Yeah.
I was young and dumb.
Yeah.
And you weren't dumb. This is a this is
a conscious decision.
They were there the right amount of
time.
Yeah.
Um
I became a call from
Okay.
And
Okay.
What was the job? So do they have a
discovery program in Brooklyn? I said
I can't from Twin Rivers to go and to
move to Brooklyn.
But Twin Rivers is a shiny place.
It's shiny.
pure and and and simple Okay.
a normal life
So do I have to go with him and give him
free
All right.
I will I will
When I Okay, yeah.
I lost my train of thought, but
I was I was not going to Brooklyn.
Okay.
I said
This is Epis. Right? What's What's
15,000? The music is jobs.
It changed it in the middle, but
yeah. It was a younger Nachman in
Jerusalem. Yeah.
Yeah. Yes, but it's the same. 30 years
old.
Mm.
24. Yeah. 30 years old. That's right.
I'm busy
in the 30s like this year. Good night.
Yeah. In the national day of but it is
out
in the city hall.
We long for them.
When did you leave Israel the first
time?
In
in 1981.
We long as you gave busy as you come off
Nachman.
6 year.
Hey, wait.
It's the movie 6 year old
No, no, no, no, no. No, no.
First is Philadelphia. You live in
Philadelphia? Yeah,
yeah. Mr. You went to the hall in
Philadelphia. You went to New Hempstead
to Twin Rivers. So they have to have you
later guys to Nachman in the city hall.
Yeah.
Okay. We will come to the most kind of
um
3 or 4. 3 of mine. Yeah. Okay.
So the guys in the Nachman in Jerusalem.
Yeah.
We
in Haranof. Haranof. [snorts] Yeah.
Okay.
This is when it was the fourth world.
The
the um
in case of an apartment in
Okay.
Um
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>> I move around a lot. Um
I'm going to go in dort in um
23 year.
Wow. Yeah.
When the Nachman in the city hall bought
the apartment or does No. I rented it
out.
I used to get it. I used to get it.
Yeah. I used to get it. Yeah. But I took
a year and then I was going to take too
much of a headache. I have to get it.
Okay. So what
what you gave in the Nachman in the 3
year?
If
this is good or not good.
I won't say it's going to be the best
year in the city hall. It's going to be
the best year. Yeah, no it's going to be
good. It's going to be good.
It happened with Nachman in the city
hall. Come out the same too. The Shiva
in the city hall. Yeah. Okay.
Um
I can list the Twin Rivers in the
Nachman hall uh uh
uh have a program.
It's one
wasn't called partners there. Got the
Nachman program.
Okay. You got to come in
from Lakewood. Yeah, yeah and Tuesday
night.
You got to come from Lakewood to Twin
Rivers. To Twin Rivers yeah yeah and
Tuesday night. And some guy learned with
the learned with with the
with the locals. Yeah. And then he went
to the Nachman hall. It's going to be
It's going to be fine with two
partners. And said Nachman as the free
of the Karabi had had given
services for the for the Nachman from
from Lakewood.
Um can you see the same thing Yeah.
It's going to be two. It's going to be
three.
10. 20.
20. 30. After two year.
Uh
Nachman came came
came back.
For a year Nachman Goldman said
Rabbi uh
why is this program only for for for
men?
It's crazy.
What you gave
Nachman in the
and then what you gave Nachman for
Nachman. For Nachman.
Nachman.
Yeah. No, then Nachman
by by the year the the by the time of
Nachman moved I swear 80 Nachman year
year and week.
Cars, vans year and year and week.
Men have room the guys in the
Nachman in the city hall
in the Nachman in the city hall.
Liberty. Okay. So as Nachman in the
program in the city hall.
No. Nachman in the Nachman hall. What
What we we can bring
to a
higher level. Okay.
Um
Nachman
manual for the for them as I
got
Nachman written. Over my job my job
at the changed.
In the city hall. It's Nachman in the
city hall.
It's Nachman in the Nachman hall. It's
Nachman in the city hall. It's Nachman
in the
uh
Dean.
I don't know.
Dean is like
the head of the school. Yeah. Not not
exactly assistant assistant
to the
to the person who's running to the
Nachman hall of the Bais Medrash. Okay.
Nachman in the Nachman
hall.
Assistant
for the Nachman
and
yeah.
And
Nachman
Nachman hall. A new opportunity. A new
opportunity. What happened in the
Nachman hall?
Nachman came to make my my my mother uh
nursing camp in us. Okay. For
maybe 20 year. Okay. And then
even though we
moved there it's still the Nachman in
the city hall came year and year and to
camp in us.
So
um in summer
Nachman in the city hall in the Nachman
hall alone and then Nachman in the
Nachman hall
was the end of the summer.
I have to go back to the city hall to
America to stay
and
to say goodbye you know with family. To
say goodbye to visit. Wrong word. To
visit. To visit. Sorry. To visit with
family. And
and the Nachman in the city hall
as um
Rabbi Moshe Pasik Nachman said uh I
heard it in the Bais Medrash in America.
Still
tell me say
Rabbi Shaya Fishman Nachman
uh
will will
Nachman Nachman
hall.
What? Okay.
Nachman job
to to
to take the for day schools.
Day schools have
the Nachman day schools.
It's
a Nachman day school.
But the elders
are Nachman are Nachman.
So the Nachman is Nachman. You
have
Nachman in the Nachman hall
and the Nachman is Nachman. And the
Nachman Nachman hall Nachman school.
Yeah. Okay.
This is very normal. Yes, the Nachman
the Nachman in the city hall
Nachman Nachman schools.
Nachman
a from the
foundation to
to make make program for the older Mhm.
Okay. That's
the job was
to make programs for
other programs
budget for them
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No, imagine imagine.
Matches?
50,000.
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the numbers in the
In front of me.
I can look at it look it up.
I got to assist you in your desk at.
Pretty pretty Messiah. I would mention
that I give it to him. Yeah, suck. Suck.
Yeah.
>> [laughter]
>> Yeah.
Okay.
Wow.
What is that
But
fundraiser Right?
Can give it to $1800. Okay.
Right? He said
>> [laughter]
>> Okay.
I didn't I didn't I didn't shop for him.
You can get you do all that cuz you give
me $1800. You
know, oh.
I forgot to say when I called I say
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He said, "Oh, I owe my life to you."
>> [laughter]
>> I changed my whole family and
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You know, firm is is it's a hard word
to explain because what size firm?
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I joke from the about it but where is
firm? Right. This is firm is relative.
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1991. This is
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Have you been involved in in therapy?
Yeah.
What kind of therapy?
Um
mostly uh
marriage and family therapy.
Okay. mostly
Okay.
And um Is on the side?
On the side. Yeah.
And
um
I
hot
a branch of schools counterforce
Um This is um
therapist in in in the yeshivas.
They like in the therapist.
Okay. And they they
they uh encourage me to open up an
office of private practice. It's love in
our private practice in in Lakewood.
Um
So
in the process it's
I can say it is my courage is is is in
is in marriage and in families.
That's um
Okay, so
They what kind of mention came into the
year for therapy?
normal mention
Doesn't mean anything to me.
What is my normal what is my firm?
Yeah.
I What is my normal is is
I have it not with with
mention was had very severe
personality disorders. I would just put
it out there for now.
Okay, so with him you
normal mention was having was having to
take a look at her problem.
shown bias
stick with anxiety
um
stress
So We we live in difficult times. This
is this is this is fair.
And there's like it's those suck
challenges in life.
There's the more open-minded the
therapy.
Because you see they're more open-minded
therapy. Yeah. Maybe the little fish in
the ocean.
suck me Really?
I was not expecting that.
This is not part-time.
I would
more than 50% of my own clients saying
from the city show
Kryzen.
Yeah.
That's why they come.
Yeah.
Okay. In in what
like
I would be a therapist
can see in patterns and in themes and in
in the worst suck mention was struggling
with this suck mention. What is in the
grossest issues you see?
When you have me back and say say
say none of the podcast Yeah.
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Right. Let me explain it another way.
What is in the bestest suck mention is
in summer in in the marriages?
What is in the
I love the question. I love the
question.
The is it do a a commitment?
It's with also having it.
This is
Well do come the problem. Mhm.
I have suck your
community.
fire
I have it for
I have suck therapy was I? Yeah. Okay.
The
This is do apples
can't compare it.
So do a commitment.
So do
They will not
They don't want to hurt the sweater
People are suffering.
But they're not
Mhm.
They they are stuck. Mhm.
They are stuck. Other than the marriage
That's all stuff.
Mhm.
Yiddish is great.
So
Okay.
All right. Regular people. I don't know
how to say this in English.
I say it jokingly normal, but regular
people.
And
But but it's right.
The
There's
The
is is gold.
Even Even to do Most most times Even to
do a problem
Then they
The the family unit
is very strong.
Okay. Very strong.
Yes.
Acceptance.
Visit Look for acceptance in Yiddish.
Acceptance.
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opposite
the other person. Writing is not the
right word. Change. Yeah.
Change.
That part
the husband and the wife.
Yeah.
Don't worry about it.
Not so severe.
Interesting.
Bottom
For sure the father has them.
Communication is is a
It's a big word.
They have communication problems.
What's my definition of problems?
Have to break it down
Acceptance.
We
Only men
Mhm.
Okay.
Instead of Instead
Yeah. Am I making sense? Yeah.
So
Not exactly.
I I'm looking at the vibe.
The vibe
will
the man
and resistance a block
Subconsciously, not consciously.
She doesn't accept me. He doesn't accept
me.
Pretty.
>> [snorts]
>> You know.
On time.
Friendly, communicative.
They're not natural. They're not natural
communicators.
So
in the
in the world it's called love languages.
Okay.
The five
love languages.
Amen.
Um
Okay.
What is the love language from the from
the second man? Right?
The words of
Words of affirmation.
All right. Words of affirmation. Okay.
As
Leave him alone.
Don't push him.
Push him less.
It's kept in his natural.
accommodating but not ocean and dancing.
Mhm. And he can learn what is the love
language
And
Not yet.
Physical touch.
This is my love language. But
It can say this is not the the actual.
I don't understand.
How do you how do you get there?
Um
Five to five weeks. Three weeks.
in Florida.
in person. Okay.
I mean person in Passaic.
Florida. Cleveland.
I got a call from a neighbor from
Florida.
Um
And
Florida.
For the first
let me say in person.
Okay.
And
In the in in the conversation is I see
coming
that
that um
the wife's
love language
love languages.
Don't don't
Don't think this is
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as my Russian for love languages. Um um
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home
is is um
um
acts of service because there's a man
for dealing
but dealing
What is my
but dealing is but dealing we we have it
but acts of service.
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gain we can I also help him
what stuff do you what what can I
like like like the don't worry I'll take
care of the dishes. Right this is the
acts of service massing from but dealing
yeah. Okay.
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in in in Lebanon.
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When I look
is a cheat and a cheat and Z is not the
freedom.
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and then the man left number 17 and then
left number
this is getting Shabbos I
must have all this
I clean the dishes I
What what is for my life?
Mhm.
Mhm from the right and I will first time
Z came is for now for now she was this
is going this is looking
I don't want to say too much never mind.
>> [sighs]
>> From from the from the um
discussion I will first time
as this is not received without
What Z that mayor of the track way in
five languages
the most for her
What is is physical touch.
Hugging.
Yeah hugging the nation.
This is the most important thing to her.
I was I was
me at Z gift wrecked what's most
important what is it going to do is the
least important.
I was a kid from from from a familiar
with this is not as a broken steam.
And she gave up.
on hugging the nation Mhm.
And for him
It's your give it the world.
Uh uh but for him it's going to be a
person dish.
Not not
physical contact but such mayor
And for Z touch had the mint
such mayor
and
that means she would wasn't accepted as
a birth
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person
not for the physical
mister
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This is not going to connect for Z.
as
She adapted
to
She
adapted I don't know how to say adapt Z
get touched.
And the result was Z that
the result is
acts of service massing from but
dealing. Uh-huh.
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listening.
I think one of one of the things that I
like to do I like to believe I believe
as can T
I will still be the good side is to
listen it's a hidden how do you say
listen
also hidden.
It's it's not the same side.
I
I I may head the sweater was was gay
tone was
What's really going on you go beneath
the surface
and you see oh okay.
If you ask me first time you miss book
of my Z came
and
What Z at the touch this is this is
the other man
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come out the other man
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uh wagon
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vulnerable
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and then adapted What is my adapted what
is
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is what
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for
this the way how I have to be I have to
behave I have to
that was saying
I saw you
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as
to please that that's why the man
Am I making sense? Mhm.
um
And I a man can gain come out the guns
of Lebanon
with the adapted self
with while the raw
natural vulnerable side is too scary.
Yeah.
as
What Z I would [clears throat] and say
any of the things that I would with
mention is let's let's let's focus on
being vulnerable
let's let's see
what what are we really feeling.
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Also mention something I I would say
Mention something that What
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it but
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was
an ouch man.
The phone number is 605-477-1888
605-477-1888
body language the organ can say
Yeah you're you're right.
First
I'm jumping in.
The the answer is I can say what I think
is to develop trust.
Okay. Z that means trust I would say Z
trust me not
Right.
And I say I
I say I speak
I have connect trust I can say something
what what I trust. Mhm.
Z say
Ouch.
And nothing to say again
Z can connect.
Not animal
I would I would
It's
a sack man.
Mhm.
>> Yeah.
And
while the adapted
personality
is Z
very very back when
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when
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wasting from the from the the raw
uh Z from Z from them and then
That was when
midnight session We get to to
vulnerable.
Oh this is getting smoked.
The the man was second result
I said cheat acts of service for the
wife.
I would say my best result I would say
result
You don't feel good enough about
yourself.
I spend a lot of time to do
such time not not such a time to do
silence.
I would not say not
I can say from the bottom
I can say I make with the lips.
I can say
You're not happy with yourself.
Z feels not good enough.
When I look
silence
not them
them
God the sack tennis
for the wife
I can say
them
I can say Z can connect.
So
we are so used to I can say now I feel
I make acts of service for her.
Not from better not not from
what Z say what Z can say what Z can say
in in in the in the in the chamber
in the minute
I can say
I can say give me a good sniffer.
>> [snorts]
>> I can get smoked.
Most of the time.
So [laughter] Z say couples was coming
around in Z and the man was again Z can
have this is
My biggest happiness.
You graduated. I love I love I love
I love telling them Z can make him in
What?
Yeah.
Nobody has nobody has a perfect
marriage.
Can I say
the
the after marriage
This is
This is good. It had shown the tools we
saw in the summer.
Okay. Yeah this is I can say man I would
say again therapy was a track now the
therapist will not as much as I can hear
the word.
>> The therapist doesn't have my best
interest in
Every therapist Yeah, every therapist is
vulnerable
vulnerable for them.
It's a bad therapist.
Right.
So do an incentive. Yeah.
Okay.
And
an office.
If if you let me mention
They were
getting the girls.
Shaken.
Mhm.
We are so good with medicine.
The the work
They they took was
This is like two more two more sessions
and you're done.
Interesting.
This is the benchmark. That's the
benchmark.
You're not accomplishing and you feel
the mission
the great.
A good applause. Now you have to work
work that happens into you know, to
separate and
but
the conscious is the flex.
Is it is
We are so
so so so good with medicine. Be long we
feel. Right. Right. It cost a lot of
money.
I charge
the the rate they're going rate. Charge
Okay. Right. Mhm.
Come on.
Very good conversation.
I don't
speak such good English but I'm trying.
As we get as good. And then she took me
back to people how much they charge.
I'm going to say the price.
Yeah.
This is my this is my thing.
I don't
I don't think it's I don't think it's
right for us.
What?
Making a price seem winding.
Yeah, they
will give a discount. Right. Right.
No, I was just
Let me ask you a question. Is that
English?
>> [laughter]
>> If something is too too good price,
means I have to have what's wrong with
it.
But but no.
Okay.
I think
it's an old word.
I'm
continuing.
Yeah.
Um
So do a song. Um
Thought was was couples having a break.
So then
to integrate with them again. Mhm.
We don't go into the break.
It's not majority but this is
Yeah.
Okay.
What is in five dry tips? The sign of
this guy in this therapy.
I would have a good best of the
marriage. The team.
You know, you have to prepare me for
such questions. You can't ask me on the
spot.
Uh
I think so is
the the flag was just me afraid.
What is good in their marriage?
Mhm.
Can I get them over the phone
You know.
Okay.
What attracted you?
The man and the Yeah.
So
any
any say in the matter.
So it's a nice over you know.
Most of the time they say get to me this
whatever.
I said What is good nothing for you what
is good with in the marriage?
For what well
I feel as
focus is
in the problem. This is I think what I
see the best.
But
Yeah, I'm I'm shifting the the
conversation a little bit maybe but to
make it different
to make it another point.
Mention the action.
This is our problem.
Aha.
They they wasting you know
for for what they have problem. Mhm.
So
leave the team.
It's the reason this is not the problem.
It's doing another song. Well it's good
that with with the shining get with the
roof. She get with the dying. Yeah,
dying is good.
And the first time all this What can I
do with them?
I will do the same thing. But the wife
said The wife said
You lost the lotion. You can't you can't
use lotion. You know why? Because this
is not the problem. The problem is
something else.
And you open up the mind to think oh
You have a good point. The problem is
just the validation so they come to the
doctor. Changes. It it takes the the the
pressure away. I don't remember the
question you asked me before now. I just
asked you about tips for marriage. Tips,
okay. So focusing focusing on on on
on the good things.
Um
I don't know
I don't know I don't
private things. private things
with with um
with the wedding.
Mhm. It's it's not a good thing. And
Be very careful.
So We don't say get trust.
Yeah, they don't have have someone that
they trust. It's
It can be your
a friend.
But trust
is
What I'm going to tell you is is like
the confidence is do a hundred percent.
So
it
Mhm.
Should I tell them is going to be my
office?
Don't you miss them? Don't you miss
them?
Right.
Forget about them. This is not They're
both They're both
with trust.
Not not We don't go into the therapy.
Not every problem is a serious problem.
Not not not every person can go into the
therapy.
But not every
person can go into the therapy. Not
every marriage not every problem is a
serious problem.
But some people mention
they they blow it out of proportion and
oh this
oh but and they start telling the other
people this is a problem. Mhm.
This is
a betrayal of trust.
But the second partner the man and the
woman knows
as what they are talking about private
things.
with the husband or with the sister or
whatever. Very destructive. Yeah. Yeah,
yeah. Big problem.
Um
I was telling as this is really cancer.
You got to name them better.
We name them for hours. How long did it
take?
Okay, good.
2012. 2000
Yeah.
>> [snorts]
>> Um
I
I go to the doctor
pain.
Um
the doctor told me exactly this is not
this is going to eat.
I couldn't take it again and then
to the same doctor
I left and then
I was I'm going to get the doctor a bit
at this given the deal.
The Russian
business
as all I skin.
Um, I was also listening to them. Yeah.
When I can give this is given very
close. Uh-huh.
>> get to
to to Sloan Kettering.
Um.
And
and
um, yeah.
This is my patient.
Cancer.
Um, this going away. Um.
She had got got cancer for them. Pardon?
Pardon. Okay. She get ended.
All the treatments.
Look then a hobby or you are getting
finished. Look then
Yeah.
So it was my turn.
Wow. Yeah.
Wow.
I couldn't go to the I minute.
I was actually out. So I took it again
again.
I have my life. I've been I was out.
I have my life.
What's what's the main lesson you have
given from the
experience?
Well, being put on the spot like that.
>> [snorts]
>> It's going to sound very cliche. I don't
know. I must be something.
You have the minute.
It's worth it. Mhm.
Um.
You have the relationship is worth it.
We spoke
is gold.
You have the minute.
Yeah.
>> [sighs and gasps]
>> Physical.
I have I have to do so much medicine, so
much treatments.
I have to go and say that
I have to
go and say that organizations
when which doctor means to go.
Um.
Confidence.
As
as my heart I get the attitude.
They can they can live.
Don't don't be a victim.
Like don't make the whole world
you know, feel bad for you.
Everyone wants everyone wants to talk to
you. Everyone wants to wants to help.
But
but you be my husband other people.
Really?
I
Yeah.
If somebody says thank you if somebody
says feel shy llama
people don't know what to say.
Yeah, what was that what happened to
them?
What's meant to get is better.
No. So that is dimension. Don't ignore
them. Mhm.
Yeah.
I said
yes I have to go to the
you know
um
I was in the garden ball. Right?
And and
people feel very people mention feeling
like
scared is is it was very scary. Right?
The kind of McKenzie um
I as my advice as mentioned
wasting
mention
um
It's not a word I want to say.
As I wasting what to do.
Help sales.
Say
thank you for caring.
How's your day going? What's going on by
you?
Right?
I don't It's dimension with
I come they my husband given
well well I
when I was going through what I went
through.
But um
I got to stop.
Can you guys have alternative doctors?
Makes I believe in alternative medicine.
But
not not
T was the the the the normal the regular
treatments are. T you want to do
alternative?
T is T is all good.
But the answer can can I go cooking?
The doctor the doctor with them
but they they
they didn't
view them.
But but they didn't they didn't uh
I have to claim that they are going to
get the slick on and the attitude that
they is I'm going to
I'm going to be going to get better.
Wow.
How's the weather today?
Not easy.
I have no I I have to do the research
but my as I attitude that the such a
thing with the review.
Okay. And often often other mention.
Yeah.
I think I put you to take over came in a
call I know from
uh
I must get out of
YouTube subscribers.
Then it's good good religious
connected to the sky but
as I can is going to diagnose with that
I should have my hands on the world that
this um
I didn't see it to a rabbi.
Get some guidance over grief and then I
don't but I will be.
And then I can get out of a series
the survivor.
I got to help we connected with you.
I don't know if you remember but you
didn't thank you.
I was in the square.
That's kind of water
and then I can hear what I get to say
for class. So thank you for your
service.
That's the second of the team that I was
done living and we're excited to see
what's next.
It's very uh
It's very good to be
in the company of somebody who has such
a harsh voice on people.
What say to us we we you say to us
to say to them
from a friend of mine.
From not my friend of mine but I see
this man.
The guy told him it's not
>> It's not a secret. What? It's not a
secret. I
also say to them I also say to them.
But but
you have you have so much influence and
impact. And the voice not the voice not
the impact was was it what the voice
not.
Mention mention
Yeah.
Mention can I ask?
And and and and and
you're never going to you're never going
to hear all the stories.
But people the impact that you have.
The
the videos
This is this is a
a good question with job as a team not
know with the army magazine and then and
and the in Washington and Trump
the
the seat of the
the the big B he helped the house sick.
People resurrected. This is a kid that
you should have. Thank you very much. I
appreciate you saying that and I can do
the same thing with me.
For beer and that for beer and that for
beer. It's good.
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