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[Music] bakit selves everyone you are listening to table for two with neomi Nachman on the knock'em seagull Network we are here today back in New York after a crazy world wind trip from Israel on Israel free spirit birthright I just can't believe that a few days ago I was in Israel and right here I am back in the studio where I love to be on a Friday morning well you guys know it's not actually Friday it's Wednesday morning and we are meeting here with an incredible group of guests that I've got I've got an action-packed show because I've had an action-packed last few days I think I've an action-packed life but whatever we'll move on about that later but on the phone I've got and I'm gonna just tell you all the my guests are because I want you to stick around for our crazy ride that we have on the phone I have shutter Abraham all the way from Israel free spirit birthrates gonna talk to us about upcoming birth my trips that you can do I have Gabby and Aaron from all shook up tying it all into food from Israel because I did a foodie trip in Israel so what the timing was perfect at near miel Berg all the way from Detroit kind of lives in New York with us right now she is the Babcock I love baking bread carbohydrate Queens that's it can I say carbohydrate Queen sure yeah cuz everything like you're teaching us bread and sourdough and other things but people just seem to really like the carbs yeah you know what it's a give the people what they want and we all appreciate that and kiss the kosher cook monkey Hirsch is joining us as well it's an unbelievable hour so sit back relax and enjoy the ride like I'm gonna make you hungry okay let's take it from the top for those of you don't know me I'm near me now and I'm about all the food all the time I'm like going really fast right hello food I've shopping for it cooking it eating at restaurants and these things food-related I'm a personal chef I wrote two cookbooks I do chop competitions catering and even for Peyser yes pay so I'm gonna throw out that p-word because it's already Jen we wake up people Pesach us around the corner so I like to hear about your cooking adventures too and I hope you'll enjoy hours with my kosher food traveling my great food ideas and my amazing so you can email me also Naomi at knock'em Siegel calm you can find me on Facebook and Instagram and right here on the neck I'm seagull Network so if you have anything exciting that you want to share with me let me know because I love to hear from what you guys want where you guys are up to where you ate and what you made and it keeps me busy too being in touch with everyone and I absolutely love doing any hearing from you okay so we're gonna move right along because on the phone I have Shekhar Abraham from the Israel free spirit which is the oh you birthright program hi Chaka good morning Naomi hi how are you great to be great thank God and great to be back on the show I thank you next time you'll come into the studio as we get closer to the summer registration but I just wanted to share with everyone a little bit about Israel what is real free spirit is so they'll know more when they can want to you know sign up for the summer sure so Israel free spirit birthright is an official trip organizer under birthright Israel we're also under the O you the Orthodox Union and we run 10-day trips in Israel they are completely free and it's a transformative and incredible experience as you know from personal experience now a couple times any staff the trips so you just came back from one yeah it was amazing actually mine was a nice trip it was a foodie trip right so how many different out there these trips does the oh you run disease or free spirit run oh my gosh so many we have the foodie culture trip we have adrenaline rush for people who are into you know repelling and hiking and other outdoor activities we have arts music and entertainment which speaks for the title speaks for itself we have other nice trips called our Modern Orthodox trips for people who come from that background we have also single gender trips for all males and all females and we have campus trips as well for you know specific college campuses so we really have a ton of different trip options and trip choices Wow amazing you know it's it's a little bit sad for the people who can't qualify because they're say older than 32 or have been to seminary yeshiva but tell us a little bit about who can qualify to go on a birthright trip that's a great question and probably one of the questions that we get most often so first and foremost to be eligible to go on one of our trips you have to be a Jewish descent you have to be between the ages of 18 and 32 and then one of the most common questions we get is well if I've been to Israel before can I go on birthright Israel and the answer is yes but it depends on what type of trip so if you went on an organized program which is you know a program that was in Israel with let's just say for example like a tour guide in a whole organized in the you know official itinerary and things like that not like a family trip if you went on an organized program in Israel after the age of 18 then you would not unfortunately be eligible for one of our trips but if you did an organized trip before the age of 18 then there's a chance that actually you would be eligible so another example of an organised trip that would unfortunately make someone ineligible is coming on a gap year program like going to achieve our seminary or spending a study on a semester abroad in Israel or something like that or any of the other you know organized trips that they have in Israel but if you meet any of the other qualifications then you are eligible for our trips and I highly recommend that you apply yes yes I highly recommend it to an if if you know someone think you know outside of you just yourself like if you know someone who you have a cousin who's off Jewish descent they are eligible to go and and spread the word because we would love to keep the birthright movement going and and the continuity of the trip is amazing and just spreading the word to bring everyone there there is a couple of things that we should also mention shocker that certain things that every birthright group does whether you go on the Modern Orthodox one or even a different trip tour organizer you all have the same mandated requirements which I think we should talk about as well so yeah so you take it of course sure I mean the itinerary across the board on any authorities or trip is pretty much going to be the same that the standard itinerary you know hitting up the what I'll call the hot spots like yerushalayim Tel Aviv Masada the Dead Sea go a lot of heights you know certain areas they're better ones hence me although yeah those are great right you know so those are likely key places that all trips go to and then you know depending on the trip that you're on whether it's a nice trip or a campus trip or you know whatever trip choice you're on the there will be a couple of other activities or places or things that you see that will different again depending on the trip that you're on so your trip foodie culture you guys probably had a couple of activities that were geared towards that correct yes we do what were some of those activities that you went to a dream in eh we introduced village because its culture part of it is couches having the druze also living in Israel so we went to a Druze village and we ate Druze food was all at was a kosher kitchen it was an amazing program that were able to make that happen and go you know you know when you go on a know you trip you know the cassius is going to be completely intact and we so we had the Druze at lunch at the Druze we had a a cook tour in Makani who are out we also spent time at the camel market and led the Levinsky Mac and also and I'm sure there was one or two other things as well that went along and my brain is just overloaded it was really we went to a wine tasting we went to a chocolate factory went to an olive oil factory I could I forget that those already at the beginning of the trip so it's like a little further away but it was amazing right so you can see how that and so the like the that trip obviously is it differs from you know what other trips would see and that's amazing that's so cool yeah it was amazing Jaakko so how can people register for the summer so the best way to register right now is to take out your phone or take out your computer and go to Israel free spirit calm /at that's Israel free spirit /a PP app and there you type in your email you click sign up or create account and then you just start filling out your application and you can choose the trip that you want amazing amazing thank you so much for coming on and closer to the summer when their registrations fully open we'll have you back on talking a little bit more about Israel free spirit and thank you so much for the opportunity again for sending me absolutely I just want to make I just want to make one more point that Israel free spirit birthright is a leading trip organizer and participants satisfaction meaning people love our trips we fly over two thousand people to Israel every year and we run trips every winter and summer so the summer trips are are the most upcoming one between May and August and then arch and then our winter trips which are in session right now which you just came back from are between December and February so we have a ton of trips check it out Israel free spirit calm flash app thanks so much Naomi amazing thanks Chacon we'll talk next time about all the extension trips that you can do as well if you want to stay on in Israel what else birthright can offer as well so lots going on there thanks very much of her you're welcome all right that was shocker I'm from Israel free spirit guys if you know anyone that wants it and qualifies for a free trip to Israel spread the word it is right like why would you not want to go amazing it was really the trip of a lifetime so I thought when I was preparing my notes for this or the show and here we go things I'm like oh I'm gonna talk about birth and I'm like you know what I'm gonna have Chaka come and talk about birthright and of course I was able to get him on the phone I was very happy about that but we visited some incredible places just to give her three little shout outs because that winter break is coming up for three places you should try in the shook at Mahoney hoorah and then we're gonna talk about the shook I've got the shook here with me I bought some of the shook back with me hatch beer Jaqueline bar and craft pizza three great places so many other great places do but this is what I got to try this trip and you'll investigate I've been to be bizarre and I see a crave is also great so lots of great places but I'm just gonna give those a little now all the way from New Jersey via Israel I have business couple I have Gabi and Aaron from all shook up I forgot your last name this it's a long one right but they are the couple behind all shook up they bring in food from the shook you know how you got it used to go the shook like I did last week guys the true story I said I'm not buying anything from the shook to schlep that because I'm already my suitcase was heavy from shoes I bought a lot of shoes blunt stones I bought blunt stone no no no it's a blunt stone everybody in Israel where's blunt stones it's actually an Australian boot it's an Australian boot this is new this is what you need to import lunch stone shoes Australian they've actually made in Tasmania about everyone and Israel wears them it was pouring Israel like crazy and everybody was got their feet wet but once I bought my blunt stones my feets they dry and comfortable which is unusual you get one or the other sometimes yeah bland stone I don't know I don't even know how to spell it but blunt stone yeah I'm not sure I did that so I'll send you a picture okay so I said I bought a ton of shoes in Israel and I'm like no room for snacks but it's not from the shop because I don't need to worry because all shook up and then in all of a sudden for a round then we can get you on the show and I'm like this hash Kaka practice right the LUN D I'll she already looked at that plant blah blah at what the LUN D land stone stone London stone however you say it I know right who are you how sad is about the Australian fires right can I just run can we just take a pause from the shook and just everyone laughing for rain for Israel we want rain I mean job afraid necessary we want rain in Israel trust me that was a lot of it last week and every time we got soaked in Israel we kept saying bra bra bra bra cup with it might post really really nice rain there's a lot of a lot of devastation there if I talk about I'm gonna cry so let's talk about food that makes me happy hey guys how's it going I am my pleasure and you'll come on for a big long show that actually just came by to drop some stuff off and I said I'm putting on the air for five minutes can happen I cannot because you're here and I love you guys and you're doing or some things and I love that there are husband and wife in business okay talk to me about all shook up yes yes that's uh we're we're listen listen you know we're we're we're passing along the wealth yeah it's delicious by the way this is actually fairly new it's no sugar added weight completion talk about well I'll show cap okay so let's start again so this is going back about about a year and a half we were in the shook for Zach's Gabby's brother who was in the Army in very very important unit they're all important yes um so he went there went to the shook we said why isn't this more why isn't it in the United States Gabby's idea not mine of course so we said why not do it and we did it and that was it in the story so now we're about a year and a half deep all shook up that come all underscores shook underscore up on Instagram people are loving it like you approved yes yeah yes that's what I how did you get that that muscle Russell jump there a lot of heat so wasn't it wasn't an easy process that we don't do it everyone else does where they bring back three suitcases full of stuff the process I have to say I really appreciate that I love it yeah so thank God it's it's been doing very well for us gabby is the mastermind behind the idea of course fern Hersh bus Gabi's mom from of course the great Detroit right and and who I went to my uncle with although she is dividing up so we thought we said you know who can we ask who is very clever smart and come up with a good name so incomes so thank God for her best mother-in-law ever it's so nice to hear you say that cuz now I'm a mother-in-law I truly do cut hearing your son-in-law sites up there about a mother-in-law shout out to you roughly to see me fantastic so first of all let's passed around just a few things that will get to the to some of the other goodies okay good oh we're actually having a kidnapped them by the way they're gonna be for you for five minutes d'etre you know a local Detroit like women's Facebook page and you would posted something about you are coming to town and all shook-up whatever so of course I like Instagram stalk them and I just thought this is an amazing idea and I messaged her and you probably thought I was crazy I'm like I want to help I want to help you get out there I wanted them to do well I wanted you to get yourself out there so that you can continue you know providing people all over the state not everyone gets to go to Israel not everyone notices the difference in the taste of spices from you know commercial store-bought brand that's been sitting on the shelves as opposed to like fresh from the shook spices and right well of course thank you very much yes we're very very very oh I love that like you know right so it would so it's essentially it's the teas it's the dried fruits it's the spices and well let's start with that though so I'll pass some of these guys around I think some of you guys have tasted this before as well as a lot of your listeners okay what is this this is the hydrate of watermelon fruits by pesha though no it's not it's not hers is dehydrated this is rehydrate right so what does air-dried one is freeze-dried freeze-dried and I don't know exactly all of her specific items this over here is air dried versus for you dried freeze-dried is kind of old it's it's it's it turns hard yeah this is this is alright so what are you opening this banana do you like bananas nothing are you are you hoarding everything okay so it's his name wait I don't need to wash I'm saying I don't need to make a broth because before I went on air I washed because we're gonna about to eat sourdough with mochi and Naomi so I'm just gonna eat this right away this is amazing I made muffins with those yes yes you saw I love this that this is the yeah okay so should I open them but this one yeah I don't open them all Malky you got a tray I'm going to manga wait see Chinese also we have to be GK you eat bananas you guys okay we're trying to give away some buddies we're all chewing that's wife here dead time no air dead air it's because we're eating blueberries aren't they crazy nothing at it's crazy oh my gosh look at the itty-bitty seeds right right it's it's it's a mango Naomi was like is this the rind that's the right thing hey the right blueberry there were all I want you all to get on Instagram and we're gonna do a giveaway of some dried fruit this is this small giveaway more to a bigger will do a bigger giveaway for and now I'm single Network there's an interesting did you have the blueberries though yeah let's just do a fruit giveaway now and then the next time when you're coming it for a big jewelry round one though so what we just did I was in Israel about a month ago and I met with the owner Ellie mom on the owner of halva Kingdom everyone knows how the kingdom they go to the shook yes he's amazing and well then yeah so we so we wet yeah so we started importing their nuts which I think the omean mouth they have tried before never tried importing them but we have eight in them so on the saddle give it up girls okay vanilla oven now the whiskey whiskey so just full just so so there's no alcohol though just whiskey flavor I like alcohol too much right wait last time Ellie Rosenfeld Tommy to try horseradish mustard chips and I said I don't like horseradish and he goes you'll like these and then I sped it out really only do that this time it is No so I should I don't want to eat something you might go there vanilla almond yes you like this though yes this one yes it's like it's a little bit of a hint yeah so what we did so we had a meeting with the owner Paula Kingdom we we went around we check that the the facility is whole Factory and we are now the exclusive importer of of all of their nuts very exciting I love you have recipes with you I must have missed that one unbelievable I'm sorry yes yes yes yes very good very good okay fair enough Naomi fair enough okay we're just trying us guys if you want to win some what are we winning let's do I don't know what are we going to give away well I mean but it's a dry food I guess it's it's it's more it's more encompassing I mean you guys have done you guys have done giveaways that's what you want you tell us what makes sense well I can't ask the audience because I can't call him monkey monkeys deciding what should be in the ocean Cup giveaway on take off or two on the neck I'm single network so a wedding team back from Maui Maui can you talk in and tell us what banana the blueberries your young coconuts are Schwartz network also cop I love it yes well what I will do there we go I just said he Renaud no this is amazing okay try that alright so all you have to do is email in there me at Maximus Eagle dark coffee and we will put you in to win if you follow on Instagram that's a added bonus none of my listeners do not have Instagram but we want to we want to get everybody involved in this dollars your email me Naomi at knock'em Siegel calm and you can win a whole slew of delicious packages of also cups dried fruit picked out by Malky and aomi from Osaka okay and just just so everybody knows these nuts are available of course on all choked up calm and we are in the process of bringing in a whole other container of product very very soon so there'll be many more flavors many more exciting things to go I am so excited for you guys I watched your business like really grow like when we first met up right yes right okay great so we're gonna have you guys back before pouring we can organize that so we're looking forward to that stay tuned for the next 3-4 weeks oh it's not so far away oh no it's very those P words are coming up far so so let's go on really has some suggestions we could make a businessman this is how it all starts many businesses have actually started off in the NAM single Network show so there you go okay alright amazing guys thank you so much you so much this was amazing we'll see before pouring I : let's take care of this DK did you try how good was that stuff hey amazing all right I know they have to run their only came they literally came in to drop some stuff off to the studio and we're like yeah we're kidnapping you for a show but we want to have them on for a nice big Purim show and do you do Pesach anything for pacer not yet not this coming here but hopefully in the future I like the decays like getting right in there I still have my coffee it's good right I like that I like that Wow thanks guys thank you thank you all right all right back to the show we have an incredible second half coming up this is table for two in the amine Ackman I'm the NOC I'm seagull Network we have had already shut our ever happen from Israel free spirit we have the amazing couple behind Gabon Aaron Burr Hynde all shook up and now I have for the second half it's a bread fest I'm just gonna leave it look like that kiss the kosher cook Naomi L Berg there are two friends from who met through Instagram land I met them Maki and I both live in the same neighborhood and we both went to the same Shore and Naomi and Malcolm it through Instagram I met Naomi through Instagram I think our friendship got bigger through in the foodie world and I have to say it's quite incredible how so many people have met our password never of crossed and I think Danielle was at your house I was watching Danielle story he's up in Calais yes and this woman that bakes cakes cookies and that's monkey who is she anyways I met you you were pregnant with Rosie forever we like to say that be very large I never said that right well she was a Jew it was a god sake well this is hot without a baby I'm Iraqi the first time and I was like you're the woman that bakes who makes all the monkey was like okay yeah anyways you know we chatted through Instagram and then I met you a kosher fest 2017 yeah Wow and monkey was in the best Melinda on that yes of my title can we have a rematch right I was loving rematch I'm gonna write that yeah please don't write that down rematch Abelson hymen hey there were my first sponsors of my radio show I love that this is amazing on her hi chocolate yeah but should I put on foie gras like that's legit on a hot dog right willing to put on like gummy bears or something yeah I come in but the trophy stands in her house I know I've been robbed rematch anyways okay so your friendship is growing a lot and and now you work a lot together in doing sourdough so Naomi taught me everything I know that's that's the truth honestly I'll tell you I I did I did take a course all right while I learned a lot sourdough is a different culture Richard oh it is it's a whole different just because you're a baker doesn't mean you're a bread maker doesn't mean you cut Brian sourdough and right I baked a lot of bread and I know I've made sourdough I've made it a lot till I smashed my starter on the kitchen floor yeah so you know may I meet whenever something happens to my starter I can and I can call Naomi and there's also like Oh shouts ooh a Hoover got dinner for a movie and I am sorry everyone is so willing to help I'm the type of learner okay I don't do math and I don't do science which is really weird because which is all this is about absolutely it's math but when it comes down to it I don't look at the math part of it okay I don't it took me so long to understand hydration which I'm not even gonna get into the point is hello I I'd also like I never understood it I killed my starter so many times although you really can't kill your starter and pretty always comes back yeah yes you bought mine back to life where was I going with this also so basically what happened was Ida whose kitchen accomplished she she um he's amazing she started doing it and I had all these questions to ask her and she's like I'm just gonna mail you some dried starter and I'll tell you how to rehydrate it and I'll just explain it to you along the way what I loved about what Ida did was she I told her I said you have to dumb off' I this for me you cannot use crazy terms you cannot just ultra lease like just give me numbers how much of this how much of this and how much of this and I will send you pictures like a crazy person and you will have to answer me because if you don't and we'll keep bothering you so just answer my questions I don't want to kill my starter she literally coached me for like two or three days of rehydrating my starter to actually making bread and then Malky was like I want to make sourdough no I don't want to be sourdough yeah I do know it Oh Naomi came into my kitchen and basically said okay I'm a very visual learner yeah me too right I was like that also so yeah she came into my kitchen and then upon leaving and going back to her family in Detroit which I was a little bit upset about like how dare you I would FaceTime her and show her you know my starter evolving and bubbling and growing and then the dough making process and she was really just there to tell me you know okay it's ready now or give it another feed things like that and then basically eventually it's it becomes like also okay nature that book simple emily rifle doesn't have like there's other books on the market you open them I told you I look at them and I close them and I walk away right well people have that with cooking what yes what's ours oh can be tough for us is like cooking for other people so like even with my book I tried to keep it very simple instruction one instruction to it sometimes they're all in one paragraph a lot of instructions in award-winning cookbooks I can't read it I can't use it because even me who I think I know how to cook it's it's up it's overwhelming to read all the directions in one paragraph yeah break it down simplify it I never made starter okay never made starter because if you google creating a sourdough starter you're you're you read about this and this and you don't eat one that's ten years old but I'm like why I'm turned off of doing it before I even do it right and so I was like okay Mel Keith we're gonna do something and teach people how to mix their because that's what we're doing tomorrow actually we figured yeah so we're doing a sourdough for beginners class without those fancy terms right you're only gonna hear this on Friday so use the classes already been in the past yes so you'll finish and then I'll say eight-balls and we're gonna rock it that's right okay whose eight-ball is that is that mean Wallick s' okay well then it must be accurate right right sure emiram knows what she's so good when the whole topic doing a class came up it was sourdough for beginners because we're still beginners yes every year we learn every single we've learned something new every single day so no so basically if we learn something new today like this starter this is just this week and now we're able to really like explain it I wouldn't actually pause this conversation you and I the three of us are jumping in like we know what we're talking about I I'm just imagining a listener tuning in maybe the first time the second time on no one's someone who's not a foodie going what are they talking about bread sourdough starter I'm from another planet with whether these girls come from markets I think we should recap and take it from the top what are we talking about what is sourdough bread what is the starter and then take it from there sourdough bread is the way that we've been making bread since the beginning of the world creation Riano absolutely when the Jews were leaving trying to do they're looking to make sourdough bread the thing with sourdough bread is that because today we have Fleischmann's instant active yeast which if you put in water it'll proof in a matter of minutes people got used to having something immediately oh that's that's today that's the world we live in today sourdough takes things back to basics but with that also if things take much longer to develop so a starter is what is referred to as its wild yeast how do you make a starter with flour and water and the Avani air and the air yeah because there's wild yeast in mini air and that's why within 48 hours this looks the way it does we have a starter does that mean what looks like a Widow's because I remember they're they're here I know I know okay Saturday night and Sunday we created two starters alright and it's just flour and water Dadar is the foundation of great a starter is the yeast it's naturally its natural level you know how you use a little bit of yeast in your whole recipe so instead of using yeast you use a bit of the starter okay so if you read if you google how to create a sourdough starter it's approximately a seven day process it could take up to seven days sometimes longer its flour and water you cover it and you let it sit and you let it ferment and what happens you feed it like it becomes a living organism you want it to become a living organism and how do you promote growth and strength you feeding it so you're feeding it flour and water that's its main source of nutrients equal parts flour and water all right and then basically what you're hoping for are to see little air bubbles and the smell changes the texture changes and you follow these directions and you hopefully ends up with a happy sourdough starter okay so anyways that was great I think yeah I think we we kind of bought the basics to catch everybody up yeah cuz like sometimes you we talk and we all know what we're talking about if you're not a bread baker or a cook in general we're all up to speak hey guys it was going according to plan flour water and then if you don't feed your sourdough starter feeding means adding more water flour it basically tells you it's hungry by creating something called it's alcohol it's an alcohol that's given off and it has a very strong smell and it's basically your sourdough starter saying really believe me and the word hooch is known for alcohol making back in prohibition they would yes where's the hooch give me some oh right it's alcohol I would not drink the hooch yeah no no no from this obviously date they do their own fermenting process but that's probably something right for times desperate now it's very interesting some bakers when hooch develops on their starter which could really take it it can happen after a couple of days everything in the little rim of war it's a remove water sometimes to develop more flavor in their sourdough they'll mix in their hooch I was wondering about that yeah they when you make say butter and you spin off the bottom milk fat from the heavy cream and use that that would into paying very true that elevates the flow exactly it definitely gives it more tender right tenderizes the flour the flour it also tenderizes well if you were not kosher happens to be that check out a milk they soak non-jewish people so good on kosher people soak their chicken in buttermilk and you can make your power of buttermilk with any milk with lemon juice or vinegar I did that in my perfect flavors yeah I have I soak the chicken in a powder but it's very it's very effective and it's delicious delicious yeah so according to the instructions and books and on the internet cuz you know it says it could take up to seven days within 24 hours it was bubbling hey why do you think it's winter and there was more oil because my house is constantly baking bread there's all all of it is in the air in her hands yeah on your hand-skin and it was a in particular monkey anyone that does sourdough and a Hoover why it's spoken to she's homegrown washer that's amazing I picture and I said is this normal she goes because normally when I the procedure I wanted to follow was after 48 hours to feed it for the first time not 24 hours she goes Naomi there's bubbles it's alive feed it and she was just blown away she's like that's incredible growth she said there was an experiment that was done I think it was highest sorry that that had mentioned it first because she listens to the podcast if you make a starter people who do sourdough you make a starter it will come to fruition yeah we faster than anyone else and I think high asuri did it and so did Ahuva I think it was a day or two that their starter was ready to go because they have five hands in the air around you this is amazing I did a sourdough class and I when I still lived here on the Lower East Side but talking about 1617 years ago I took a class in Manhattan at the JCC we did bread and one of them was making a overnight starter with rye flour and then he put that into bread I've got to find the recipe I've got somewhere and it was it was it was incredible so be the flesh starter overnight starter is what I'll say it's called a foolish it's a base it's like a sponge my fridge overnight um yeah in a little plastic I do that recipe you'll love it some people get confused because there's a lot of no need overnight bread Jim Lahey so Jim Lee he's one of them with that bread ISA he's a baker that created the concept of overnight no need bread but it uses yeast it uses commercial yeast so sour bibbity if you're going shopping and you see something that says sourdough bread if you've read the ingredients and it says yeast it's not floured stuff now it has a sourdough flavor but it's not sourdough okay guys that's actually a really good point and I always say always tall especially my kids I said when you buy food read the labels we read what you are putting into your body absolutely that's fascinating I've got to find those recipes and show them to a lot a lot of bread baking soured has been taken to a whole other level I think it's Rory from full and free she does she does a spelt one and I think with spelt flour spelled starter if you let it sit for 24 hours or more it becomes if you have celiac you can't eat it still has the gluten in and if you are gluten intolerant apparently you can tolerate the bread this is fascinating I didn't know Hoover once got in has tried it once start do one for Pesach with quinoa yeah it's when I first saw the following her when she when she was doing something with quinoa starter for Pesach I need a Hoover on the show I'm gonna write that down I'm writing notes on the show she's great ain't you G said to the guys at a culinary Depot and she got like a big mixer from them the table cheese yeah well she doesn't monster you know you can spread out a little bit over there she has chickens in her backyard all right wait wait speaking of mom we have like in the house we have Pelle poultry that's right that's your that's so creamy I know we never did we're gonna do a story together better great we did it we did it you and I was gonna I was gonna come to you to talk about the milk and like I was in between trips I love because I love milk hello this is a cup of coffee it has 99% milk 1% coffee not beth-el Creamery which I love they weren't a kosher Fest this year it made me so sad because I was going to go straight there in the morning for my cup of milk I'm sure my kids went crazy here but number the Bethel babka oh my gosh we mean a vessel Bob okay girls now let's move from set let's eat the sourdough and then we're gonna talk a little bit about Bob cousin a little bit about cakes and mochi as well so let's talk about okay I wash before the show so I made a mistake because I washed I said I'll let you like a dime and then I came back in and I realized I can't talk and that means I can't do my radio show so we needed to cut the bread up before the show started so I could say how much he and stop the show so let's put it back together again kind of a puzzle yep back together how do we do this Juneau there's a great quote by Julia Child if you find something that's beautifully plated chances are someone's fingers have been all over it I just started watching again that Julie and Julia ah my jet lag to rebook no you did I reach analyzable that's my rule on movies and books you have to read the book before you see the movie I'm reading a book for a year already oh my gosh we're really slow what book I'm gonna read other magazines I've got to read all the magazines and then I fall asleep when after reading two three pages I forgot the name of it it's a Judah pic Jodi Picoult Nicole and I brought it with us in South Africa sitting down long enough to read them but if I do sit then I fall asleep right yes epub books you could tell by my vocabulary all right so I read cookbooks every magazines and Flay shakes and all that yeah it's a bad cycle it's a terrible thing so we put this back together again okay any now this is how do you make these you talked about how you made your brain how did you make the grooves on top can we get a nice little zoom on this bread here okay all right have you called it's called a monkey wire wire monkey wire monkey it's um it's a razor that has a little knob attached to the end gives you good leverage you could use it with a razor you can use it with some it's just a knob with a razor attached to the ends and the reason that you put slashes in dough on the top is to let the steam escape people take it to a different level because you have the most beautifully etched sourdough I just find on Instagram Mokey's oh yeah but it's something work of art and it's really beautiful well so how many more where that so let's show people how you cut the sandwich oh absolutely okay because it's a bit intimidating big crust you actually cook it inside a Dutch oven Dutch oven which is a pot with a lid can't you steam it first and it's very hot you put on a very high oven by the way if you want to take a sourdough class which we'll talk in a minute how to reach out to them but let's show everyone how we can it so we use this amazing knife from remember me home I hope for me home Aviva Aviva yes Aviv a can there's a double last name secondly the Bennett tribute I don't know okay we we love you of Eva but we look at I remember me home yes but just remember remember me home she's been on the show we should have Iran again talk about knives for Pesach yes so by the way I did buy this knife from her from Oxford three four colors and they're plastic cans at this point and and she engraved his name in it so she can do that she can personalize nice so um you guys want to show how you pretend okay you want a good sharp serrated knife okay so pretend this little hole okay this is seriously how you cut sourdough bread what's wrong alright so I'm gonna move this off I have this half over here alright so you cut it down the middle I'll turn it to the side so it has something to balance on to rest on you always want a flat edge when you cut any case whether it's the carrot or Britain watch your fingers okay and then you slice watch out for flying crumbs okay you see that yeah and then you basically can go any which way you want so then actually I'll just continue it that way okay now can we have some butter that's ha now I bought last year some ramps which are only in season they're all onion weed we were together brother yeah we bought it together I came on your shelves ash little weak okay okay what if it was in the freezer some definitely it's in the freezer okay yeah so we made ramp butter and I thought that would be a perfect time that and Vegemite I thought we should put on the bread but they refused so happy I'm the same I don't I've had that Troy had yes no I hadn't Australian roommate in seminary and birth right with me and some of the kids actually did like it I might it's a denotes British Oh just very tasty yeah it's East on East there's no use done here well there's wild wild from the air thank you a sourdough FAQ which is really cool yeah do you want to know why also people square their bread aside from releasing yeast thank you because there used to be everyone used to bake in a communal oven okay so that is how they they they personalize their loaves of bread was by putting in there there they're marking or their the word I'm looking for I don't shape identify yes SOT right like you had Meyer logo that's really if I have my logo and that would be how you tell the bread apart and also people would carry their starter here's another really cool thing in a necklace bakers would carry their this their necks their starters we she's so happy in their necklace you gonna get I get a chain I just put it on here yeah but they have names also that wait they name they use come whistle you have to you have to need this yeah and it's gonna drop look this is how you make butter we made butter and we wrapped it like this this is a wrap it in a in a log oh you can smear it like that yeah for sure okay here you can do the honors Oh like this yeah paint I'm paying play with your food I know we really need is there and I think in that closet there there's something there's there's a knife here there's an officer where oh my god you smell that it's garlic and ramp maybe what would be better than having you two on my show this is the special occasion oh no music knives okay so I already as you know washed okay we're okay I'm really supposed to be on a die today is not the day that you're gonna do that are gonna eat this in the car just save some for me and ZK have to give you my khakis yeah they drive you Mike I'm okay you're not gonna spread it just just fold it in half with the butter and eat it and I'm just like a little bit I don't know why it's not spreading I think it's still true there's no carbs in it what in the is that why doesn't spread now cuz that's why you should just like take a bite okay here we go I just don't want a big glob of buttery my who doesn't want a glob of butter that's true okay here we go I'm gonna fold my bread and butter in okay you have to talk while I chew we could do that yeah for sure um another fun fact about sourdough oh my god it's a good is that there is no oil and there is no eggs anybody that has allergies no sugar so any any child that has allergy to eggs and there's someone actually allergic to instant yeast yeah I heard that so - I gave them my sourdough yeah this is amazing this is amazing my family that's what they want they all you need is really sourdough and a smear anything into the ferns guys people want to take a class how do they find out more about how to get you guys don't say Instagram DM yeah or email me exactly either crunch it's just so much more fun you'll have after the show I need you to wash beforehand but the thing is like it's amazing to share your passion with somebody that we send each other like food pictures and bread and this and that and like we get it like that's that's what it is like we have an idea and then we go for it and it's just so much more fun when you can work with a friend and you know you learn together you could teach together let's double the fun such a beautiful friendship okay beautiful Maui tell us a little bit about what you how you started as kiss the kosher cook and oh my gosh I you had a group yeah I think it's active but I really haven't been I'm very much on Facebook unfortunately feel like my new home where I'm more comfortable as Instagram yeah how do you feel you feel the same today right even though today there is a new feature on Instagram where you can share all of your pictures and posts to Facebook as well that's been around for a while no it hasn't been that long your story it's really in any case when you find out now if you found out today found out like last week I'm not very tech savvy some of it is an updated feature story yeah just story can put your Instagram your Facebook thing it used to be from facebook to instagram they can do face could do Instagram to Facebook they can do Facebook you could be everywhere yes yes exactly I'm everywhere sure you are omnipresent like you are anyway it started on Facebook it was a it was a food group to basically recipe share and share different ideas about dinner and Shabbos and yontiff and all that stuff because you know us from women are I would say in the kitchen most of the time whether we like it or not but I like it I happen to love it so that's where it started a happy place right that's where it started and then evolved into different areas of either baking bread making then just yeah and it keeps on going so thank you so two years ago this is a this is a true story two years ago I got a message on Instagram from a girl in Brooklyn who actually is also a sourdough bake breaker rookie cookies bread I don't know if you've heard of it she's great asking me if I could replicate a number two cake for her husband's second anniversary of being smoke-free quits yes he quit smoking and she had seen an Israeli pastry chef make these cakes that were initials and numbers she wants to know if I can do the same thing absolutely so I said so I said listen I've never done it before and I can't promise you what the result will be but I will try it and I will let you know and I did it it's two years later and it's how many this year not really why - with your numbers hundreds I know I don't even know you make at least one a week I mean I therefore yeah I make a lot a lot of them yeah and they could be different things it could be an engagement ring for a for a part there could be it's they're all different they're templates and I have I have plastic you know numbers 1 through 10 I have a to Z I have Aleph through tough so it really depends on anything and people you know one of our Mitzvah centerpiece on a dessert table and they want it to be a shin for schmoly so okay yeah so yeah so I don't I write notes through the show so I remember afterwards because remember what you said after this yeah yeah so so it really is um it's personalized by color scheme by what the kid or the guy or the girl likes I put little mini liquor bottles on there I put whatever whatever they like and they're always French macarons and there are they had me at Mecca oh yeah Iran's from I get them I have two people in the neighborhood that make them for me when is Kerry Hawk and she yes Lisa's daughter and I love her and I mean every week yeah she's great she's great did you see the REO thing that she makes it's not know wow she really yeah so every week she is making me macarons and we're always doing different designs out of the person I'm Geeta elephant macarons spiky tache Morocco and beautiful yeah so that's taken on a life of its own in itself that alone I fake different types of cakes but Naomi keeps on telling me we need something new we need something new like it's time for something new so I write this it she wants me to do something new somebody's always evolving right I was looking for the next day the lemon more everybody wanted the lemon it's really what the people want it really is what do you guys want yeah what do you want from me I don't know the red glaze is really hard because that's a very quite I don't know what that glaze is this high shine glaze that is made with condensed milk and gelatin sheets sounds makes it's very scientific it requires a lot different a lot of different kitchen tools I do not have there are cake decorators that use it like on all their cakes they are beautiful I haven't haven't gone there yet I'm just it's um something just intimidate me that's one of those things she never had my cookie cake I've never made a linter Adam for her I know I don't even want to let her I'll eat anything wait we can have an end together - Naomi and n yeah oh well cakes for you I send her ideas you're supposed to the one wait I've got an idea we're gonna ask them now come Segal audience what kind of cakes should Malky make email me Naomi at Nahum seagull comm so you've got it you got a few things to do - we've given you homework you've given you a giveaway and now ideas for what should be my next hat cake yes my next case okay I'm curious to see what everyone is gonna say or it could be dessert thing absolutely so okay great and do you do I remember one point you were doing personal chef do you do that I do it I dabble I dabble I'm one person I've got a lot of things every week going on thank god it's become very busy it's always always crazy and I but I do love learning and I do love trying new new things whether it be cooking or baking and I look forward to my next adventure we look forward to seeing your next adventure thank you by the way you started tasting your neck don't forget to include me and absolutely I just want to tell you and also make my audience I don't know if you know this but on the lorry so we're right now on the lower east on Grand Street they can actually drive my car home cuz I'm getting I need to spend a little bit more time in the city and then they're gonna they don't so I'm gonna get a ride home later you could don't forget the car keys well I guess you won't get very far no yeah drive up Grand Street that way there is a restaurant called Dilla's all kinds of pickle food like hamburgers with pickle or like deep-fried pickles and pickled fried pickles yeah it's really worth stopping and getting yourself a little bite to eat on your way home should we do it I don't know okay you're driving I'm serious it's amazing it's totally worth stopping by you're here on Grand Street go check up dealers it's where near where you used to be there the pizza shop on the Lower East Side on Grand Street if you guys remember that from back in the day so yeah destination you'll do lunch in ah you know I'll meet you guys leave me your bread means he came a tarnish this are you guys go get pickles and we'll have an amazing I have an amazing lunch on your way out they have really cool drinks like pineapple pickle juice drinks and hello something like that you'll try whatever pickle juice is being sold at kosher festered remember that is supposed to I I had so you know what I have a pic cool shot Yeah right what's it supposed to be good for your like it's some electrolytes it's not yeah SD wall be taught me this you have a shot I'm not such a big drinker but you have a shot of whiskey and you follow a chaser pickleback you have whistle back yeah it's called a pickle back you have a shot of whiskey followed by pickle juice you can try that on Thomas have you heard of that CK he has see it's real because if CK's heard of it he's knows for sure they have pickle pops like frozen pickle you freeze them that's for athlete your face says it all it's for athletes yeah but I love pickles so but I just frozen pickle sometimes it's not soggy it's really for athle it's like if you've done like a long bike ride or run or whatever yeah that's you wanna we walked up the side so you eat an entire sourdough loaf do you follow it with pickles that's a parity and ya are sort of right there differently or bloating but I used to be a runner in my day I did I used to run yeah I got the run and now I just run to restaurants okay it's not a bad thing Baruch Hashem okay guys this has been an incredible show we had Israel free spirit we had also we had kissed the kosher cook we had Naomi T G is all on the show in one hour my mind is blown I need a nap Jill all right we've got a very long arrow Shabbos afternoon I just want to say thank you to all our guests today this is a table for two in the MU now and on the neck I'm single network we have music sponsored by our friends at Kevin all the way up to the benching have the shabbat shalom take care bye everyone [Music]