Story behind Rabbi Elberg's Beard talk & Rebbe's involvement - 6 Iyar Yahrtzeit Rabbi Dovid Bryn

so as a follow-up to last week's explanation and and discussion of the holiness of a beard what i what i heard from rep simcha elbert back in 1977 or so 7778 there's a whole story behind it and it's a new story so get ready and it shows the great respect and in a way subservience bitter that have similar hat for them when moishe weiner the author of the safer the book hadris ponemzoken the authoritative work on the importance of wearing a beard having a beard and letting your beard grow which is a must read at least parts of it it's over a thousand pages but you can read it in various ways including citations for many rabbanim rabbis litvish lives father shikha daily over the centuries up to the most recent reborn including kanyevsky who was adamant that every person we are beard meaning every lit every literature should wear beard so his safer came out in 1977 78 and he felt he needed a a uh na probation ascama from a good station the members of which were now feinstein was the nazi i believe the president absolutely elberg biak of kaminetsky the the the elite for sugar daily and and other uh rapponim and ramosa felt that if he gets their approval their ascama it really would give credibility to the safer so the question is how do you get this organization which had members which didn't have a beard or a full beard and all of that how do you get them to to to give us kama on such a safer the secretary of douglas levine who was alabacher and and very tight with all of these rabbanim and abraham small was very close to rabbi albert being his secretary for the organization and he told uh martial wiener to to take the that robbie elbert and his wife are going on a trip to take him to the airport he'll sit he'll he'll be in the car too and during that time they'll have time to to discuss the safer and maisha will will present his safer his and and ask for has come and he did that and in the car right there and then he he said word for word everything that he said about the safer and and from schmool then put it put it on the letterhead and that's how it's printed the safer and that's the has comma that came from that conversation in the car after the safer came out there was a vayitzaku means that they went up they were up in arms that are both certainly upon him particularly because it said there that baba say no that there are many people that are you know sinfully uh taking doing this obama saying much sins you know in other words it's it's it's not appropriate it's it's it's considered a sin and we have to stop this uh breach of of of of of going against our etc and this caused them to go berserk and to call simcha elberger of sir albert and absent albert the pressure was so great he wanted to retract the husqva claiming he never said exactly those words etc etc calls a moisture wiener he says you have to speak to him you don't speak to him he's going to publish in her parties he was the editor of a journal called pardes which was a monthly scholarly torah journal that came out and all the reshivers and then and and the greater new york area this was the one of the few journals that people respected and he's going to write akasha denial of the approbation that you published in the agudus name and in his name he's going to write a denial question and it's going to undermine and the credibility of your safer and emotional didn't know what to do oh he as a hustler that ever he turns to that but he was in touch with it but this entire period you know about all the different upon him that were giving atonement he studied in the middle yeshiva so he before he became a laboratory or widely be while it was alabama whatever the case and he never referred to him the bitter talmud so the the mira talmud the moisture wiener uh was in touch with the anyway he at this point he wrote to dreb again and uh the next thing he knows is that uh levin says to to to marshall wiener that albert coming to 770 on this in this date you park your car outside i'm sure he'll be speaking to the rebbe after minha and after when he i'll be with him and i'll walk him into your car you take him back to borough park where he lived fine he's sitting in the passenger seat and maisha is driving and over he looks at him and he says mohammed with anger and effort you and he tells you you may be such subtle such problems it's outrageous what you did and moisture is in the car and and he already knew how upset he is but he had to do it he had to have this meeting a discussion and he had a captivated audience three people robbie albert grabbed and rapped as he finishes with his face is red and he's angry he calms down and he says i just came out of speaking to the devin you know it was in the hallway uh outside of the rebels room because this was after a heart attack so probably going to the room and the rabbit told me how wonderful your safe it is he lauded it and the rebbe asked me to speak about the beard at my annual pesach russia that i give in borough park on 14th avenue and 46th street and then the rabbi asked me also to write about it in ha pardes and i'm going to do both ramosa wiener could not believe what he heard um a moment ago he was going to tear him apart rip him apart and then he says but it happens to be that the rabbit just spoke to me about it but pastors this was because why because moshe and moishe winner wrote to the rebber about the whole issue and so the rebel took the opportunity to talk positively about the safer and and the rebel wanted to save her this was something that the rapper and they were pushing them there's so much to talk about how important the safer was to them to encourage people to grow their beards so the rabbit spoke positively to the albert and he asked him to speak about it now i understand why he spoke about it by the way last week i said that you know he himself didn't have a full beard at the time guess what he grew a beard right after after that russia he grew up he grew out his beard so i asked him bishop wiener you know how is it that he could speak this way and you know have a beard he says if you knew rebel but that that's the you know he was ish he was isha ms but for whatever reason he didn't you know you know he didn't see it as a contradiction it took some time to to bring the emes that he believed him in a practical way by the way um i reminded myself that he spoke he said that and he brought he he said it and then he printed in his safer immediate simcha that the regular water carrier and and simple yid in poland the warsaw it was greater for them to have a beard they in other words it was it was worse for them to cut off their beard at the cut off their arm and their leg that's what he said that's how important for the average simpleton in poland in in varsha in warsaw not for the sadiq and the shiva and the going and they the kid they tell me but the average simple person would rather let their hand and their foot cut off than their beard so this is a i just wanted to be muslim to complete what we discussed last week to give you the full picture on the background and now i understand why you spoke about it that pesach and the and everything that goes along with it i also want to mention that today is the yard site um shabbos today tomorrow heir of shabbos shabbos ears the yard side of a good harvard friend from our yeshiva days rabbi david brin all over shalom david was a tire i wrote a book about his life called the the rebels emissary the rebel and he was a yi that loved everyone at his levia he had a thousand people from litvisher you know people rabbanim and hasidim and people with ponytails older younger the collective jewish experience was at his levia a thousand people about 15 or so years ago i forget exactly how many years it is but an abdovid was a yi that didn't look out look for money and honor and pleasure you know used to go to sleep listening to the bureau constantium okay this is when he was on schliches he was a schlieffen and it's called the california club area of north miami i believe is buried there they say that that ebicent wants money to check to his mother and for him and and she wrote and he wrote it's asadik so i can tell you that those that are in the miami area if you need a broker you could go to his his caver and be mispowered there because he was mamish emma hussit and a genuine person and uh and this shabbos is your site and we all have a good shabbos and only simphis and we keep saying arrival am in the army