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how people should see their money, value
their money. People have to start saving
when they could afford it when the kids
are young and how the market works
short-term versus long-term. There are
thousands and thousands of different
funds. We showed you how to a open up
separate accounts for each occasion or
each child. The only way you want to
continue thinking about it is maybe I
could I could afford already $30. I
could already $40 and so on and so
forth. And this is not where get get
rich quick. and they want to start
investing but they're overleveraging
themselves what they could really afford
to put away long term and what ends up
happening they crash you have so much
more to to save and put away long term
and that's that's that's idea of this
that's idea of profit the most is Robin
Hood I specifically don't like Robin
Hood since Robin Hood turns into a
casino people start trading and doing
options and becoming experts on which
stock will be up tomorrow which
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Kim, thank you so much for joining me on
the Let's Talk Business podcast. For our
listeners, it's not the first time we
had you for a full episode and you gave
phenomenal advice for people. Obviously,
you don't give financial advice, but you
gave coaching as far as how people
should see their money, value their
money, and how they could actually use
their money wisely. Um, and one of the
things we discussed on our episode and
I've seen you speak about it is people
have to start saving when they could
afford it when the kids are young in
order to make some, you know, plan
retirement. Obviously, most of our
people will talk about, you know, you
have these occasions, bar mitzvah,
weddings for kids. They want to save up
money for those occasions. So, a lot of
chatter out there is about investing in
the S&P. It's something that has
compound interest. It's something that
you put away small money but ultimately
with with the years you are a you're
saving and plus it it actually gives you
a nice return on average. So we're not
about the fin when this conversation is
not about the financial part of it. It's
a very technical conversation that I
wanted to go through is I've had a lot
of people come to me probably you had
people come to you as well. I tried it.
I was playing around with the system. I
don't know how to do it. What what are
the mechanics of it? I want to do it the
right way. I don't want to find out when
I'm making a wedding for my kids. I
didn't log into that account the whole
day and all of a sudden I find out that
I forgot to do something and and and and
now I have to go, you know, I didn't
have that result. So today, if you could
be kind enough and show us setting up a
dummy account, putting in information,
what are the steps a person would do
that our audience would really
appreciate it. Great. Welcome. Welcome.
Thanks for the great introduction and
it's great to be back. We hear fantastic
u feedback from our first episode and
I'm looking forward to this one. Um you
pointed out that I'm not a financial
advisor, which is someone that can
advise you where to put your money.
That's correct. I'm a financial coach.
So, this is educational to teach our
viewers how to open an account and how
they could do it. And of course, for
financial advice advice, they should
speak to a financial professional. And
whoever does this should be familiar of
the risks of investing in the market and
how the market works short-term versus
long-term and everything else. People
should familiarize themselves with it.
This is for someone that knows exactly
what they want to do and it's just a
how-to for those people. Beautiful.
Perfect. So there are many financial
institutions of where um one can
trade. The most popular I I want to say
the most popular but it's very popular
is Robin Hood. I specifically don't like
Robin Hood. Since Robin Hood turns into
a casino, people start trading and doing
options and becoming experts on which
stock will be up tomorrow and which
won't and all the other um gambling that
ends up happening on Robin Hood. While
you could do the same on other with
other financial institutions, it seems
like the user interface on Robin is just
too friendly for that. So that's why I
don't use Robin Hood and instead I go to
Fidelityinvestments.com. So it's
Fidelity Fidelity.com which is Fidelity
Investments. I'll share my screen now.
Sure. And show you the Fidelity
homepage. So here we go. This is the
Fidelity homepage. And when it comes to
opening an account, we click here, open
an account. And there are multiple
different accounts that one can open.
They have tens of different accounts. If
you click on all accounts, all accounts,
we won't go there. The most popular is
one of three, a brokerage account or
within an IRA, a retirement IRA. There's
a traditional IRA and a Roth IRA. I'll
briefly discuss the difference between
those accounts. A brokerage account is
where you can buy stock and sell stock
uh and mutual funds as well at any time.
You can buy today and sell tomorrow. And
it has um you actually pay taxes on it.
the money that you contribute. When it
comes to investing in the market, there
are different types of types of the
different types of account had different
tax ramifications. So, let's discuss
brokerage for a moment. A bro a
brokerage account is you put in taxed
money. So, if you earned $100,000 this
year, you pay taxes on the $100,000 and
that money that's taxed already gets
invested. Then, when you sell, it
depends. If you sell within a year, you
pay income tax on the gains. Of course,
if you sell at a gain, you you pay
income tax on the gain. If you sell
after a year, that depends on your
income. So, if your income is less than
for a married couple, I believe that for
2025 is approximately
$96,000. If you sell at a gain, so that
that's called capital gains tax. And
capital gains tax for someone that earns
$96,000 is actually at zero. So, you can
sell your stocks at a profit and not pay
any taxes. If you earn from 96,000 up
until I believe it's in the $400,000
range and again the 96,000 is for a
couple up I believe it's around $400,000
range you're you pay 15% capital gains
tax and above that if your income is
higher than that you pay 20% in capital
gains tax. So that's a brokerage
account. In the brokerage account,
correct? Okay. It's not locked. You
could actually you could sell whatever
you want. If you sell within a year,
it's income tax. After a year, it's
either zero, 50%, or 20%. And paying
that tax for someone that's in a higher
tax bracket, income bracket. That's
actually amazing because that means that
you made money and you're paying um
somewhat to the government and the rest
you get to keep and the rest is a lot.
It's either 80 or 85% which is amazing.
Now, when it comes to retirement
account, let's click on open an account.
You can open either a Roth IRA or a
traditional IRA. And again, the
difference between the those accounts is
the taxes. Now, when it comes to
investing in a traditional IRA, the
taxes are as follows. Let's say I'll
just use those numbers as an example. If
someone contributes $5,000 now, and then
in retirement, it's worth
$50,000. The money that they contribute
now is not taxed. So, technically, they
earned $100,000 and they're contributing
$5,000. So that money isn't taxed. Now
they when they file taxes, their
accountant will tell them, "Hey, you can
have a tax benefit and you can defer
this $5,000 that you're contributing to
your traditional IRA. You don't you
won't have to pay taxes now on it since
it's tax deferred. So you'll only pay
taxes on
$95,000 and you'll see a smaller tax
bill when it comes to filing and paying
your taxes. That's great. Then in
retirement, the $5,000 hopefully turned
into $50,000. at that time you'll pay
income tax. The other type of IRA is a
Roth
IRA. The Roth
IRA is that if you currently earn
$100,000 and and you contribute $5,000,
you pay taxes on that $5,000 just like
you pay taxes on your entire $100,000.
So, you pay taxes now, but the benefit
is that in retirement, the entire
$50,000 that it hopefully grew to is
taxfree and you're not paying any any
tax on that. That the traditional IRA
has a tax benefit now. And the Roth IRA
has a tax benefit. Got it. So, so
basically basically the only both of
them are taxable. The question is if
you're getting the benefits on from the
get-go on the on every year or you
getting it at the time you withdrawing
the money at the later later date,
right? and and and usually what will
make a difference like which type of
person would go either or like like is
there any like category of person that
traditional IRA would make more sense
than a Roth IRA. So I recommend people
to ask of their accountants what they
recommend but one way people like to
recommend is that if someone's in a high
tax bracket now they would want to go
with a traditional IRA. This way they
have the tax benefit now that it's tax
deferred up until retirement and we
don't know which bracket retirement
might be. Got it. Okay. So so back to to
where we were and thank you for this uh
this explanation. I think it's important
because people hear the word IRA and
average person if the company's not
contributing to it and stuff like that
they're they're confused. So let's let's
go back to brokerage account. I guess I
guess when it comes to um savings
accounts for you know let's say we said
for these simas or any type of account
you want to create for long term it
would be if it's not a retirement
purposes um brokerage account would
probably be the the way to go right I
just want to add one more thing you
mentioned their company if people do it
through their employer and that's a 401k
401k is pretty similar to an IRA the
difference is when it comes through
their company it's called The 401k
versus an IRA is an individual
retirement account, but it operates
pretty similar. Let's go to the
brokerage account.
So, what we're going to do now is we're
going to open an account. Let's open the
brokerage account. Are you a Fidelity
customer? We'll answer
no. Just for me, you can add your wife
if you want to.
I'll be adding the information here.
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So now it's asking you where your cash
will be held. Right? So entering the
information until here was very easy and
fast. Now they ask you where do you want
to keep that cash and what's
recommended. They recommended they
actually had even a sign here
recommended. Um but they took that off.
I see. But we recommend SPAXX. What this
is is this is just a money market
account. Let's call it a savings
account. So when you add money here,
it's just a high yield savings account
just without the FDIC insurance. It's a
savings account. And then once it's in
here, once the brokerage account or the
retirement is open and you transfer
money into the account, it'll be held in
this kind of savings account. But you
still have to take another action later
if you want to invest in the S&P or
elsewhere. You'll have to take that
action afterwards and trade. So first
will be held in
spaxx. Open an
account. Let's create a username and
password.
and then they ask you for for one of
those
codes. Let's get a text message.
Submit security code.
Correct. So the next thing is link your
bank account. The way we connect the
bank account the recommended way is
through vicinity. So we enter our bank
username and password over here. Once
you open your account, you click on
accounts portfolio and this is where
you'll see the account. But let's let's
open this. Let's say we want to open
three accounts for three in three
different children. So each child can
get their own wedding fund. Open an
account and again another brokerage
account just for
me. And as you see opening the second
account should take less than two
minutes. We want to open it again within
and keep the money in spaxx until we
invest it.
And this is where we link the bank
accounts. Again, we add $10 and we link
the
account. Now, let's click on accounts
and
portfolio. And here we have the second
account. We can do that over here with
open an account multiple times and open
multiple different accounts for each
child.
You could rename this. You can rename.
Okay. So, let's rename it.
Oh,
beautiful. This is a
room. Beautiful.
So now we have the two accounts open and
once it's nicknamed um A and S we know
that this money cannot be used for
anything else. This money is dedicated
for the wedding and if the month is
tight or if we want to use Sar's money
for anything else we can't use it. This
is dedicated for their wedding
discipline this way. For those who are
watching this is where discipline comes
into play. You got to be disciplined
otherwise um it defeats the whole
purpose. Exactly. And I believe everyone
watching is disciplined in some things.
All we're saying is you can be
disciplined in this uh manner as well
with your wedding funds as well. Just do
it. Okay. So now that we have the the
the accounts open, zero balances, how do
we putting it into the
S&P? How do we setting up that it should
be auto debit? Perfect. So we can do two
things. Number one is transfer money and
keeping it in the account but it isn't
invested and it doesn't grow. Um, it's
just like a high yield savings account
and the money just sits or we can do a
recurring transfer and and and a
recurring investment actually. So, let
me just show you first how to transfer
money. If we want to let it sit, um, we
open or we don't or first we want to set
up the recurring trans the one-time
transfer. We go to EFT to or from a
bank. Let's contribute $10 to a Rome's
wedding fund. So we do from JP Morgan
Chase and again at this point your your
banking is already linked because we did
it in the earlier step.
Correct. I do a onetime transfer of $10.
Continue.
Submit. Great. So I'll click on the
Fidelity logo here. It'll take us to the
home as you see here. Now, the money
didn't really get withdrawn from your
Chase account yet, but Fidelity is
laying out $10 and are letting you
continue investing as a matter of good
faith. They believe that your money is
there is in Chase and it'll transfer
over tomorrow. So, they already laid out
the $10. They do it sometimes, some
types of accounts and now we can trade
it. So, now the money is just in SPAXX,
which is essentially just a money market
account.
Now in the money marking account itself
is also a high yield money marking like
if somebody says yeah when I I called it
money market account I called it high
yield savings it's it's a money market
account but it operates like a high
yield savings account just without the
FDIC insurance. Got it. Great. So now
it's just sitting there. If one decides
that they want to invest in the S&P 500
this is what they do. They click on
trade. Let's buy. There are many
different ways to buy the S&P 500. For
myself, I like to buy uh the Fidelity
mutual fund, which is called FX AIX.
That's their ticker symbol. And it
mimics the S&P 500. So, and that's a
mutual fund. Mutual fund. The account of
Ron wedding fund. FX AIX. And as you see
here, it's a Fidelity 500 index index
mutual fund. Action by dollar amount $10
preview. As you see here, they laid out
the money in good faith. Let's pray. Um,
submit the order. Um, order received.
Now, the end of tomorrow, it'll this
will get invested in the S&P 500.
Okay. Now, just to make sure that I
understood correctly, when I did the
transfer of funds, that's going to be a
recurring. So, now you showed me a one
time. That was a one-time transfer and a
one time trade. Okay. Let's go to Sarah.
by Sarah's account. Let's set up
recurring weekly $20 a week, which will
be approximately $80 a month. So,
beautiful. We'll click on transfer here.
Manage recurring transfers.
Here's investments or transfers. We can
create either a recurring transfer,
which will be just an FX in SPX, which
is just in the money market account, or
we can invest it automatically into the
S&P 500. So it's a both steps in one in
one shot. Exactly. And that's what I
like to do with myself. So I'll click
for the on the investment create an
automatic
investment mutual fund.
Sarah symbol is again FX AIX. So it'll
automatically withdraw from the account.
Go into Sarah's wedding fund and invest
in the S&P 500. I would like to do
$20. They have the option of weekly
every two weeks or monthly. I'll click
on weekly. What day of the week?
Tuesday. And then I have to link the
bank account. So I'll toggle this on.
Select this account.
Preview. Confirm. And that's it. Let's
look at
manage. It's set up. And let's call this
our forced savings. Why is it a forced
savings? It's actually a forced
investment because now I know that every
every Tuesday I will have $20 exit my
account, get transferred and invested
into Fidelity and I must be disciplined
and never touch this money. And I I'll
try never to cancel this business
Hashem. And what I will do is hopefully
increase it from $20 to $40 to $80 as
well as the the other kids as well. And
this is now my fourth investment as a
wedding fund into the S&P 500. Mhm. And
you could have as many account as you
want and you could have for different
occasions and you could have even for
the same kid different occasions or
different beautiful. Now let me ask you
so this is the only thing you need to
know about putting away those $20, $10
whatever it is for the wedding fund.
It's that and you want to be familiar as
we start off by saying you want to be
familiar with how the market works. Why
one shouldn't gamble on the market and
what the S&P 500 means. um that you want
to be familiar with the market can be up
and it can be down and the market can in
2008 they crashed 50% and you want to
know about that. You want to know how
the market works. Understand that one
shouldn't invest their emergency fund in
the market or that if someone wants to
buy a house in two years from now that
shouldn't be invested in the market
either because then
it's only for long term. Exactly. the
risk the money the money being the
market being down in two years and
risking that their the $100,000 will
only be $50,000 at the time that they
want to Got it. Now, let me ask you, is
there a point of coming in um on the
dashboard and seeing the graphs up and
down or you recommend? If someone that
someone that does this only does this
because they're familiar and on how the
S&P 500 works, they're disciplined. They
already they're already familiar with
it. They understand that this is for
long term. Someone with a that that
wants to access the money next year on
two years or in three years doesn't put
their money here. At least I wouldn't.
And it it doesn't matter if the if the
market is up or down, at least not for
myself. because even when the market's
down
naturally in the long term it'll be up
again. Now you mentioned the the fund
that you suggested. Uh I guess my
question to you is um this is a personal
preference. This is based on uh what
you've seen working. If if somebody
comes up and says I have a similar fund
or anything like that. Is there major
changes between the different funds?
Sure there are all types of funds. There
are funds that follow the gas industry,
the oil and gas industry. funds that
follow the chip industry, funds that
follow everything, the car industry and
funds that focus on international or on
and there are thousands and thousands of
different funds. But since I'm not a
financial adviser and I don't follow
those funds, I for myself with larger
sums of money, I actually go to a
financial adviser and they invest my
money um for me. This is if I want want
to start um on my own investing on my
own just S&P 500 which is the most
popular um fund for people to invest in
and only if someone is familiar with
with how it works. Now otherwise if
someone wants more information I do
recommend them finding a good licensed
financial advisor that can invest their
money for them and one that they should
be familiar with the fees one that
doesn't overcharge not too high on their
fees and one that their primary business
is mutual funds and not that they focus
on a different industry and they also do
mutual funds even if they're named as a
financial adviser. Got it. So so let's
recap for the listeners over here. So
what we showed you over here is um you
already heard about um the the
importance of investing and saving money
towards um those beautiful occasions
that you will come up in your life but
you know will come up um and and you
heard about the S&P you heard about
investing longterm not short term. What
we showed you over here is how you open
up a Fidelity account, put in your your
basic information link your bank account
and we showed you two things. We showed
you how to a open up separate accounts
for each occasion or each child. We also
showed you how to make a one-off trade
versus one-off transfer and one-off
trade. Or we showed you how you could
combine those two and set it up as a
recurring way, monthly, weekly, and
obviously these are basic settings that
you could see. Other than that, um um
again, not giving financial advice, just
showing you the mechanics of it. You set
it up, you forget about it, and the only
way you want to continue thinking about
it is, hm, maybe I could have I could
afford it already $30. I could already
$40 and so on and so forth. And this is
not where get get rich quick. This is
not things that this is going to feed
you a family in a year or two from now.
This is purely a forced savings with a
average of good return long-term
investing it for 10 years 15 years and
so on and so forth. That's how you do
it. Now I want to ask you a follow-up
question because this is a question that
actually people ask me literally within
the last 24 hours which is okay I'm so
excited about it. I want to do it but my
kids are all ages and and I I I want to
do it. um what do you recommend for that
person to how to go about it? So let's
say they have a 12 year old, they have a
9year-old, they have a just a baby of 2
years old. So do you recommend we should
change that dollar amount at this point
or in order to get people started you
would say do the same amount across all
children even the ages are different? It
really depends on the financial
situation. Of course I would not invest
um in wedding funds or anywhere else.
else. I wouldn't want any investments
until a a person can cover their debt um
their month until a a person can cover
their month until b they're debtree they
don't have any credit card debt or any
other debt and c they already have an
emergency fund because the emergency
fund shouldn't be invested. Once we have
that and we decide that, hey, my
financial goal is wedding funds right
now. Once we're at that stage, we
recommend um that. But it all depends on
your ability um how much you can save.
If someone wants to get to $100,000
in 18, 19 years from now, the ideal
number is probably $250 a month. If they
have older children and they want to get
to $100,000 sooner, obviously that
number increases and we have to
calculate that um for each individual
occasion and let's do that. Yeah, it's a
very good point because a lot of people
get very motivated by listening to
something like this and they want to
start investing but they're
overleveraging themselves what they can
really afford to put away long term and
what ends up happening they crash and
then they stop everything. So, as he
said, rather start with a modest
investment, something that you you will
not feel it's that coffee in the morning
that you stopped buying or you never
bought and you could afford it because
you wouldn't feel it. Start off that way
and rather as you as you start seeing it
um um you're going to start growing. And
you know from a business I I remember I
spoke once to to a a very large business
owner and he told me that I asked him
like in the beginning um you know it was
so hard it's in the software business
and how did he start um getting through
and he shared a story from the a very
interesting story that I it stuck with
me. He said, um, we were doing payroll,
um, but I didn't pay myself. And at one
point I wanted to start paying myself,
but I knew that if I'm going to say pay
myself and then I have to cover payroll,
I'll never it will never happen because
we always shorten payroll. So he faked
it. He said, you know, he make believe
that he has another employee that he
hired in his office. He gave it a
different name. And this is how he
submitted payroll. and and then the the
person that was doing payroll was just
adding that up and he said slowly but
surely we're able to cover because I was
able to squeeze it along with everything
else that's going on in the company. So
when we look at small money sometimes um
you don't think you could save but then
all of a sudden the $20 you could save
and and 20 becomes 40 and 40 becomes 50
and 100 and so on and so forth. So my
recommendation to everybody again not
being a financial adviser start off with
something and that something will become
with a compound effect will give you the
momentum and you'll all of a sudden
you're going to find out you have so
much more to to save and put away long
term. And that's that's that's idea of
this that's idea of profit first. You
you take off something from the from the
get-go and all of a sudden you find out
that somehow you get by with the rest of
the of the of what's what's left on the
plate. Kim, thank you so much for giving
us your time. I know this is going to be
very valuable. And again, we want to
finish the way we we started. Not Kim,
not myself are doing any financial ad um
um um advisor. Um you know, we're not
licensed financial adviserss, nor do we
want to be seen as that. This was a
technical conversation about if you want
to say if people wanted to know what are
the mechanics about doing this, this is
what we showed you. And if any given
time you need financial advice, please
pick a licensed financial adviser to
guide you in the right ways. And we want
to wish you happy savings and ultimately
have financial freedom. That's what what
we all wish you for. Great. Thanks many
for doing this. I appreciate it. Have a
good one. You too.
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