Fascinating interview about Rabbi Amos Guetta Ztz"l

of me falling down for an interview about the middle watching a video. Wow. I remember you went to the live. >> I was notified about this at 11:58 58 p.m. >> Well, first let's give an introduction. Ulano which everybody whoever knows is already hearing for years about and now it's such a sad news. First you want to give in short the the details of the story. What happened over there? >> Um when when I'm trying to find there's nothing like this in America but if I'm trying to find one place that is similar is uh Shama Shabas. Picture it this way. Shabas, you can find the richest person in Bor Park. You can find the poorest person in Bor Park. Why? It's a place that's open 24/7. There's no 9 to5 over there. And they have also food. Andos the food is much higher level. They give a lot of food. And a lot of people who went through divorce, went through whatever they went through in life found over there a home. Um even even uh the city of Natania is saying this that took off a lot of headaches from them >> down from the city. >> They don't have to deal. It was very interesting. You could find rich people, billionaires who came to ask for advice. And by the way, they needed to wait, you know, he didn't give attention to them more than uh than the omlless who who didn't have where to sleep. So he was a home for a lot of people. He has and also a farm and for the over there that can't sit and learn all day. >> Oh wow. >> He hadim sheep cows and tanim and it was a whole >> which area is it? >> So this was uh I lived in Katans Natania right I come from Nata and this was a 20 minute walk from from Katans. So when you go on the it was mish off the highway like picture exit 11 it was mamish on the highway going when people were driving to so they passing m next to the shield but not not everybody knew. >> Wow. So this person who was who who was a mentally disturbed person I guess. >> Yeah. >> Wow. And he knew he was >> of course you know um I was there so many times I don't remember his face. I saw a picture of his face. I remember him. >> He wasn't a tal like he was somebody a lot of people came there because they came for the food and >> if he was a tal I would have recognized him right away cuz every time I came there I saw the same over and over. >> Is there a specific reason why he did it or just crazy? Was he mad at something? >> You want to talk about the part of why it happened? I have an explanation for it. >> No, first first about the technical details. technical details >> why it happened is >> that's it. >> It's not like he got mad at something specific fight with him. >> No no no you can't fight with it was a it was so many times I saw him crying and situations. Um I have a brother that his son is in a wheelchair. remember his son was 2 years old. He was the cutest baby and he had virus. They went to the hospital and they said no it's gonish to went home and kids became serious and uh now his son is already 14 years old he's in a wheelchair and I told my brother once listen I saw so many stories by so many in let's go to Rabos and Rabos was in shore and I told my brother he goes out from he has a small room that he does and lets like black and like when he walks out from this is the We're going to stand over here. It's going to happen like 10 minutes and you're going to stand with the wheelchair cuz we're there for like an hour. Kids say so walks out with his medium and from far away he starts crying and he says, "You think I didn't see him? I saw him old." And my brother got scared because he didn't want to make a mah. So he right away took him away from there. >> Wow. I don't know if it was a a good thing that he took him away. Maybe he should have be an action, you know. Um, >> so let me hear you. >> First time I saw Abamos, everybody in Italian knows Abamos. Even there's a lot of >> I saw a picture of the sons in Natalia. Yes. >> That met him already 30 years ago. He knows. >> Yes. Yes. Um, I was once in Abos's apartment. Abama didn't go to his apartment only shabas. >> Well, yeah, he had a plastic chair. He had a stroke, a serious stroke four years ago after the October 7 attack the next day which is also something crazy and since then they he was in the hospital for like 10 months. I went to visit him there and then they built in like a small a room outside of the shore with all the machinery everything the oxygen everything so the past four years was very very difficult he wasn't able to talk >> and he still slept in the show no and they built him a room with a bed with all the was connected to machine everything. >> Wow. >> Yeah. When did you when's the first time you met Rabos? >> First time I saw Rabos was when I was like eight years old. >> First what what's his last name? What was his name? >> Rabos Gua. >> And what's his name? >> My father knew his father. >> Was a push also different style. His father didn't have a beard. He was a He had a small uh he was selling and the shook from the tan was a lot of danim. >> Yeah. Stands >> stands in America. You don't have a shook really but and they were selling vegetables. Yeah. Um first time I saw Abamos was when I was a kid. I remember Reese's uh everybody started screaming abos. And all the kids ran in the hider and I was looking and we saw beamos is walking with a lot of tes. >> Oh, he had already then this many of >> Yes. Yes. Yes. And he was walking and he stopped another strong guy and he stopped him and he put on film for him. And I remember as a kid seeing this how the didn't even say words. Wow. >> You can't say no to aos. It's like no matter where you're going to, you're in a rush. You can't tell him no. >> Wow. >> It's very interesting to see. I have so many stories. >> He put on film. I thought the man just was putting on film. It's interesting he was doing putting on film. >> So he was everything once I thought he is breast and then now I see that he learn he has Tanya and like you said he could learn film. He was mama uh woman. >> Wow. >> Yeah. You know, it's very interesting. Not long ago, I met a guy um not long. I'm saying this was story like was four years ago. I met somebody in Katans. He's 50 years old. He tells me you like, right? because uh everybody in Ketans knows him because he had the farm and in Katans they used to go to to Rabos for the farm for the kids you know they don't have American dream there >> oh so they went like a trip >> took the kids to Rabos for theim yeah this was a place to take the kids anyway but everybody know who Rabos is so he tells me I want to tell you a story I know you like Rabos very much my is my cousin And he told me my idam told me that you like I'm going to tell you a story about 30 years ago before was famous I was the manager of the yeshiva and katans and one night one day the bhan complained to me in yeshiva that they have no they hear noise every night from the building from the bism is locked it's probably a gut so he was the manager he said he was going to wait here the next day at night and he wants to see what's going on and he saw like in the middle of the night let's say 3:00 in the morning climbs in from the window. >> Wow. >> And goes through this forum over there and learns there all night. >> Yeah. Habos is something unbelievable. It's not 9 to5. You don't learn a shear. I have a shear tonight from 7 to 8 by him. It's one once I was by him a few hours like all night I wanted to leave already. I told him please let me go. He looked at me and told me and this is what happened to him. you know there's so many stories that I heard of him when I was a kid like no crazy stuff when I was a kid so you know on 10 years ago I decided I want to be close to him because I met somebody and told me you're from Natala you know I want to tell you a story told me it's a crazy story that he experienced with I said next time we go to Israel I'm going to ask >> what was the story >> the story that he had a very interesting story of in doesn't even live in people came from all over um you know today people was also you know They're doing something all the way. Kid said this from tells me a story like this. I went to once with a guy who was not so from and he really wanted a he was like 40 years old guy and he came to the middle of the night. Well, the best time also my favorite time to go to was at night because by day people come people go >> at night was more quiet >> more quiet and also my wife didn't really let me go there by day you know come to Israel not to go to >> because you were going on a vacation >> yeah whatever we have to go visit here >> but you had more time >> yeah says so they came to Rabos and he told him he wants a sh so Rabos asked him when do you want the shik So this guy was a wise guy. He told him tonight. So you want tonight? Yes. Okay. They go back. This is what was telling me the story. They go back whatever. Then he started telling me this. He tells me they drive back 2:00 in the morning. He gets a phone call. He wasn't so from from somebody that he dated in the past who knows 10 years ago and she calls him and said she >> what time was it two 2:00 in the morning >> something like that was the night he said yes but this time I'm serious and I want to get married. >> Wow. >> She said okay fine. No only if it's the night. He was wise because he wanted he remembers what told him. He said, "Okay." >> Wow. >> And told me he was he just hung up the phone. He didn't he wasn't serious about it. >> Who wasn't serious? >> The guy of the was but he didn't know. He wasn't serious. >> Yeah. No. There's a lot of stories. I have a story that I experienced with him. many stories. I'll share one of them. I was sitting where we are was was the youth Shiva Shiva from his mother. His mother passed away. I remember his mother. One time I was sitting by the sik. Before I'm going to get to the story, I'm just going to say that his mother was like 90 years old. I remember her. She walked into the sik when everybody sitting, you know, learning. There was always food by always food on the table and there's not such a thing not to learn and there was always food. So she walks in and he stands up and she bend down to him to kiss his tits. She knew what her son was. You know which mother bends down to her son to kid and he said was hot you know Natan is like to bring a fan >> a fan for his mother you know it was hot in the he said right away bring a fan the kids um the story that I wanted to say was that um once oh so when she passed away I flew in to Israel I had a strong case with them like eight years ago. When I say 8 years ago, seven years ago, I don't remember exactly. I >> Oh, you went to Israel for the Levia's mother. >> I couldn't make the Levia, but I went to the Shiva. I had a very good case with him. >> So, I went to the Shiva and went to Shabas. Everybody was sitting and learning. Yeah. went to showers they learn and he makes late like 3:00 sometimes 1:00 whatever he makes like everybody learns table with like 30 people maybe 40 30 40 and was a time a lot of people came from >> from the past or the next p >> I don't remember >> okay >> by the way I do remember that a lot of times we learned the from other parts >> yeah was very big by him and was very big by him. Anyway, he sits in the middle of the table, not in the head like me, you know, he sits in the middle and and I sit over here, bigger table than this, of course. And the middle he says that it needs to go to beta. Doesn't use the word bathroom. And he had like a few notabon. It was very hard for him to get up, you know, he wasn't sleeping in a bed or on a chair. So his feet were blue. It's very hard for him everything. So he went to the bathroom and he turns around the says asking continue learning. So the small details, you know, shows he went to the bathroom and then I I decided to ask the guy next to me. I had like a white beard. I asked him, "How many years are you here?" So he says, 30 years, you know, whenever I tell people outside, you know, especially in America that I go to, they say this is all about money. So maybe he has in his account 100 million. Who knows? You know, especially, you know, they have money. So he says he left. He said I know all his bank accounts he doesn't have a she okay now took time to came back so I start we started talking to each other and then there was a book walks in he's 16 years old and he said ask me for money I told him why you asking for money he said I just came back from the fromali from I took the train I lost the ticket and I got a fine a pa Okay. I came >> inspector >> inspector came on the bus >> and gave him a ticket. How much? 100 shekels. We had 100 shekels. Told him let's make a deal and give him know 50 shekels. You ever saw a bamos? He says no. First time a lot of people came with shekels. He always wanted to come. So he came his French left him something like that. Told him let's make a deal. I'm giving you 50 shekels. But I want you to go to you're going to see him and he's going to come back in 2 minutes. you know right away where he is and you're going to tell him that he wants money. No, I want to see how he gives money. So find way a deal. Sit down. This book walks in. He goes over to him. Comes over to him and tells him it's a ticket. He tells him uh show me the glass. It shows him the paper goes like this. He has mine over here. He gives it to him and he looks at me and he tells me and he loves me. >> Wow. >> It's unbelievable. You know how many stories I have with him? One shave. I was sitting with my siblings. You know, I come from America. So why not? My sibling used to come to my parents house to hang out. We're sitting. >> Your father lives in Italian now. >> Natalia. Yeah. People remember your father used to come every summer upstate. He was back there here in the country. >> Right. Right. I remember I went to 7 a.m. in the morning. He came back at 2:00 stitches at Suda. Everybody came to him. >> Where where? >> Yeah, I'm sure there's a lot of doctors. But >> which area up there? >> He was in I remember Yeshiva Salbury before before that was in Ken camp I think. >> Okay. So let's hear. So you're in the town. All your family members came there siblings. >> Yeah. And I told him, we were sitting for a few hours and then I told him, "Let's go." And I forgot to make a duel. I forgot to make a duel. Let's go to Rabos. I think it's because I was by Shashid. It's a 20 minutes walk from Kat to make let's go to Rabos. And we go to and he doesn't leave. Yeah. He sits sleeps on a chair. goes on only Friday night. By the way, I went with >> He had He had a regular family. He was He was Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I He lives in this old building with neighbors. He had rich people came from one second par whatever he wants and French people made in a time that they love him and he didn't take advantage of it nothing zero and he lived in a third floor and like a 600 square ft apartment no elevator so I saw his apartment by the way his apartment is full of pictures from every possible he's a father these rabbis would not have his picture >> wow He had the house on the highest level. Okay. We're like, oh kids, we come to in the he is like we see him from the window and he has a that he sleeps and chair that always should sit next to one of his and read loud from >> even when he sleeps when he eats even when he's in a phone. He doesn't have his own phone. He doesn't he didn't like smartones. didn't like cloud didn't touch always somebody should speak next so he's sleeping somebody's reading loud >> wow >> I have a story about reading loud also after that kids and a few people sleeping you know I realized a lot of people that came to a sama sleeps so they also >> they were sleeping >> they were also sleeping like this you know it's contagious anyway um you know when you when you don't see this you feel like you need the best bed and the best this the best comfort but when you see you're starting to get it kids are I was standing with my sisters outside through the window and I'll be honest is sleeping and my brother when the door is open they don't have to make noise when you go in anyways there's noise there all the time there's time they go in chickens running around and >> we're in his house >> no the over there making noise all the time and my brother walks in >> he lived on the third floor in our building and The farm was in the >> building is here. Okay, this is the building and the yeshiva is here. You have to walk like three 2 minute walk 3 minutes from >> And where's the farm? >> The farm was here next to the >> Yeah. And there was a few caravan a few like small >> mobiles. >> Yeah, mobilebiles. Exactly. So the shashidas that he had was still there. No monkey in that mobile and we're looking through the window and he's sleeping and he's tell my brothers go in and he doesn't wake up. I walk him, he picks up his head and he saysdah. >> Wow. >> And I came over there and said, "Wow." And he was not. He didn't even look at me. Was not it was every day. >> Wow. >> Didn't mean anything. >> What's his name? >> He says the one called and he made him do it. >> Wow. Like 3:00 in the morning. >> Interesting. I was inspect >> I don't know his father's name I know his mother's name because I doubt a lot the past four years he was had a stroke and it was not the same as the past four years even though I was with him keeper I spoke to this guy for a long time told me is the but it was the same that I know. Let me ask you the something that you're saying what type of did he used to say over >> this main I said before was the par and of course they had over there also everything used to have people come to him he told them go first sit down from to the he never said in his life takes you three hours and he come back to I finished nobody nobody can tell him no I saw once somebody comes over to him tells him go bring pizza for the seven pies for the that's I thought there's always food over You know I always told people before he passed away you know they say not by me you see you know >> yeah yeah you were always talking about >> you know how many messages I got got yesterday and today the guy tells me today you spoke so much about you told me stories about him and you told me to go why don't you put more pressure on me to go I hear now how big it was from from the news from here from this >> right it's not like you never it's not like you're just saying it now you're always Oh, I saw >> and so this guy went to bring pizza. He always made sure that the people were learning I have food >> and when he came he told go bring more pizza. >> I think he did it for people to to take off. You know if somebody wants you can't just come ask and leave and go back to your things. You have to be back over, you know, right? >> I think that was the idea. >> Um, you know, my father called me one night like four years ago before the stroke and he tells me what I told him tell me three times. Tell me. >> Ah, now I know why you like what happened. My father is a doctor's American, you know. He know about even took me there a few times when I was a kid to. So my father calls me and he says that now I know why you like habos. So I tell him, okay, tell me the story. He says, one night this week I couldn't fall asleep. Going to bed, I cannot fall asleep. I like stress. I don't know what 2 hours cannot fall asleep. He gets a phone call. So did not have a phone but when he needs something used to tell him call is call him to come now to sh call him now to come to call. It's very interesting to see it. So they eat so told him to call Dr. Yulan. I'm not feeling well call. >> Wow. So my father, if I would have called my father 2:00 in the morning, I think my father would hang up or tell me to go to my father's had an emergency doctor, those operations, you know. So, but you can't tell no to Abos and my father gets out of bed and it's a 5m minute drive from Katans to comes sitting there around him. It was like 2:00 in the morning, right? And my starts touching him here says no not here no no no I can't I don't see what the problem is tell no tells my father sauce was a big thing every night so my father What's that sauce? To show my father takes like 20 minutes to say it. And he goes and he sits down. My father was just father starts processing what happened over here. And >> what happened? Your father was trying to figure out what the plan was and he couldn't. >> Yeah. My father came to him. He's like making fun of him. not making fun of him but he's telling here here no not here no my father told him I don't I can't I don't know what said go sit down and my father after 20 minutes he was like thinking you know something he finished he comes to tell him I didn't know what bothers you but you knew what bothered me he smiled to him abas told on the night. Yeah. Because one time I was in Israelish I went >> he followed him to fall asleep afterwards. >> Yeah. >> Very interesting. >> Yeah. Very interesting. One time my brother I went with my brother to my own. My brother is like 8 years older than me and he's a building engineer. So we went to Australia and we come back from Safon. My my brother lives in Ben and Natanya is is on the way. So my brother is going to drop me off and then he's going to go to Ben and he has a long day even though it's Friday but he needs to be in a job sites with inspectors and developers and serious meeting over there. So I told my brother, let's stop on the way by it's on the way. Drop me off there and I want you also to come in. And he says yeah come take a why not? So he said okay. He comes in and then somebody told me I asked him what is nets nets every day. When is that like 10 20 minutes something like that said? Oh told my brother, please stay here for the night and then go to work and then sleep for two hours then go to work. So after 5 minutes I realized my brother is not there. I got so mad. I called my brother. I told him, "Penny, your brother's here from America. Wants to spend time with you. Come here. Let's spend a little time. I know we went to my own house, but let's finish this." Nice. It's not nice to just run away. I wanted you to meet to Davin, you know, to see who he is. Ai, I have a job this that please do me a favor. I put pressure on him. 10 minutes later, my brother shows up ding nets and then before he leaves my brother, he saw sits in the beam in the middle of the show was very busy with something and a phone call. He doesn't have his own phone again, but is holding the phone. He wanted to go close and see what's going on. And we see that Rabanos is like very upset like on the phone with the kadisha apparently one of his mother is aid and his father is a and the father passed away and it's Friday and don't want to bury him today he told we'll bury him next week he's going what's the rush is very upset no and my brother said wow now I know why you like to Wow. >> Who your brother asked? >> My brother. So he told my brotherh he learns all day. his son of course for these things and he was busy with it and he was he started crying. told his gaba said no told his gaba I'm going to take a truck and bury him in the farm >> really >> but I he didn't mean it serious really >> said it >> he was frustrated my brother wow what did I just see over here and my brother started to walk out and he wants to go to already to start his day you know >> much sleep he's not going to get after after all But it goes and tells him, "Where you going? Have to go to I'm not going anywhere. Come here." And nobody can tell. You see my father got out of bed. Now it's my brother. Come with me. There was a small room next to the shoe. There he puts on his thrill. Before he comes into sh There he says he can consult. He took him into the room and he starts he tells him I told you before but a minute always somebody should sit next to my >> right >> so instead of taking one of his that he always takes told my brother that he's going to be the one so he puts in there he gives him tam start reading I started laughing and rolling like my brother is this building engineer so at this type, you know, and now he's sitting with like I messed them up big time. I'm going to get it basically. I couldn't stop laughing and I saw them learning together and I was in a high the kids then his phone started ringing. He had two phones and he gives me the phone. Answer the phone. What do you mean? I'm not building. I don't know what to answer. You don't know what to answer. Take the phone and just like this. What? Where? I told him it's his brother and my my brother is now learning to he's a big he's a level of I don't know who I was talking to but I said I come back with the phone to the room looked at me tell me he hated smartphones and technology he hated it the passion. Tell me point about technology. Get out of here with your technologies. And my brother was so into it. He didn't even want to take the phone and talk. He was like, >> "So you got knew that you wanted to bring your brother to live with him." >> I'm telling you the story. He was sitting there for 4 hours. as a mic once a week to leave his yeshiva and go to aud by the way the Romans killed him. I think it was with knives also. same way tortured he tortured them and outed so once a week he left the shiv to so that's why he only went within four hours >> he was still there till now so yeah anyway by the way he used to go back in the day to every fight they could say to go to Friday he used to go to and one time there was accident. We used to go a few cars to meet him and his son died >> had a son that died. His name was Avan >> and he died on the way. I think since then they started going a little closer. That's in village. Anyway, I could talk about for hours nights. So what's one thing people should learn from >> I was a soul I once told one of his all serious guy over there he like to I told him what do you think all these and everything because of the mysterious that he was learning all day in day and night says no I was on the highest level. He would come to him. One time I went to him Friday night after the meal and Shabas was the only time I left true. He went to his family and he had a meal kish but he came back like 3:00 in the morning to the one time I came to Friday night and it's so hot in town. It's a 25 minutes walk at least from Katans to Abos and I walked without much travel. Uh I come over and looks at me and he says a fora gal gal. >> Interesting. >> So >> is there any um is there any son of that's taking over the the yeshiva? So as one son and I don't know I don't know who's taking over his son was but nobody can go into shoes all someone sits and dance day and night and sleep on the chair who can go into his shoes. >> Wow. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So thank you for saying all this uh information. I hope Mian people could learn bigus and from this and uh yeah like uh like we were talking before the have like security like they don't let everybody in. So he let in everybody even such a >> yeah he paid the price. I mean not I don't know anybody who doesn't want privacy by him there was zero privacy. I remember once I came to him I told me a favor I need to ask you something very I want to talk to you private said no talk in front of everybody to please no talk in front of everybody >> no privacy everything is opened and he took care of everybody and people found a home over there and uh he gave them food he gave them beds you know they had the farm over there for them also So >> interesting. >> Yeah. >> Okay. And >> yeah. So which which other which other mabulum do you know that were also you have any other any new levels now that you're going to go? Nobody can replace it. I tell you something interesting. I went in B park once to the a few times. I had once a wedding in Borak and after the wedding was like 3 4:00 in the morning I went to go to the supermarket to buy a few things before I want to go drive back to Staten Island and I meet up they told me once I was going to make a mar and because it sounded like almost the same style I said wow middle of the night because in America everything is 9 to5 and the show needs to be closed 12:00 said it sounds like a real. So I went there, we waited like 20 minutes and then he came in and then it was I think his name was D right and he started doing the candles and sat down for his mother and I was like this exactly no left wedding and for me it's a it's a test you know I want to see >> what is what >> if that I should sit next to him and for me it's test to see if if you know if he if he accepts everybody and he was sitting here and I want to s next to him not here but second person probably and started And then he started gave him a small mic and he was talking and I told after 20 minutes they would be done. Went like this for an hour. I I left at 7:00 in the morning. >> Wow. >> And I felt that it's similar to that's the closest place I found but still not the same cuz he's not there and sh 24/7. Okay. So I asked one of the guys to give me the hotline to get the phone calls when there's something. So I get sometimes this hotline most of the time it's not about the but I told you once in a while. >> Okay. >> It's good. Yeah. >> So if you have stories of sadikim that are alive, you got to let us know. Not after 120 that people only listen now they oh you told me about once wow you know what I hear about him now so this I lived in the town so it was easier for me to know about him there's a lot of stories that people went to from very famous and the minute Davidid heard that this person is from told him don't come to me go to >> yeah So >> okay was saying the stories and um I told you he had pictures in this in his dining room from all the rebels >> like which >> like when you go into China and on there's a room from the there's a lot of >> pictures >> that's what same style so I think you know Bish was from and and as well I think is is really the most important like not to look at somebody this way or that way to be this. I think this is the main thing to learn from abos because there's a lot of people who learn all day in you know but really even the gim says not to be you know it's so he did learn all day he had and the main thing by him was the mid the shifas I I I remember once I wanted to talk to him he was busy is listening to one of the two people that slept by him. They had a dispute argument about he took his sandwich from the fridge. He kept his sandwich in the fridge and he was listening to them. >> Wow. Details. >> Yeah. You know, people are sitting there asking questions about 100 million shield and he's sitting down and listening to them. >> Wow. Okay. And >> by the way, he hated he didn't like that people were talking about him. So that's why sometimes I could hold myself from saying the story once in a while. >> But he didn't want people to say >> did not want like taking away from him or something. maybe putting them that can hurt him or something. I don't know what. Now that he's I think it's uh it's okay already to talk about him. >> People should learn from such Yeah.