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The Kosher Vacation Part 2 BBQ's
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Ki Heim Chayeinu has teamed up with Star-K to produce a series of videos exploring the practical halachos derived from the sugya of Hagalas Keilim, discussed in Sunday’s Daf- Pesachim, Daf Lamed.
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in this episode of ben yama we got to
get serious
and make some kosher cooking equipment
that's important for us
for our vacation and that would be the
barbecue grill i think the barbecue
grill
is both the most challenging and
exciting thing to cashier
in a vacation rental now you could
always bring your own barbecue grill but
they're hard to fold up and put in
suitcases
you could buy a barbecue grill wherever
you happen to be
but it's important to remember that
you'd be obligated to title it
it would be hiven tv less kalin so let's
take a look at the barbecue that you
have
on your back porch of your vacation
rental and think about what we need to
do in order
to capture it now true oliva doesn't
require
to be an anabanyoma a beniomo is
acceptable for truly because it's going
to burn
everything that's been absorbed into the
grape the question is how do you affect
a true level
on your barbecue grates that have direct
food contact with
non-kosher or hummus or for whatever
reason why you need to capture it
some people talk about blow torches we
like to tell people you never have to
kosher with a blow torch
cashing with a blow torch is dangerous
and also caution with a blowtorch
is generally not effective this is a
standard type of a torch you might find
in some kitchens
easy to get doesn't cost a lot of money
very very hot you see it's a completely
blue flame
we're going to try to caster this until
sparks fly off until
it glows red which are really the two
basic ways that we would consider lieben
gummer we may
not even get libuncal which is the more
lenient temperature living government
hazal defined
you find it more defines lieberman gomer
as
in case you see the metal getting red
hot you see the metal glow
or the morris that's a lost in it in
case you see you need sizes and it
doesn't matter
but in case you see sparks flying some
people might want to try a professional
blowtorch
which is not such a good idea it's
dangerous your children shouldn't play
with it
but most of all it's not going to cash
or anything that effectively
let's give it a shot
now if you hold it long enough it
probably will get to a temperature of at
least lemon cobble we require lemon
plumber
i can't imagine an effective way to blow
torch this
to for each part of it to get red hot
the fires itself into
it's pretty clear that anything
non-kosher that falls into the fire is
immediately burnt
and doesn't create an issue in fact
that's the reason why we don't
require separate burners on our stoves
for milk inflation
so you don't really need to casher the
areas that are that the fire directly
burns
it's the food contact space that we're
concerned with and we're concerned there
shouldn't be a piece of non-kosher food
anywhere in the barbecue when you heat
it up that's the reason why we need to
clean out the barbecue
some would say that a true hot
self-cleaning oven would be sufficient
to cash for the barbecue grates however
that is not something that everybody
agrees to
the most practical and realistic way to
cash for a barbecue
is to cover the grates with charcoal in
order to affect the leave-in gummer
however for the rest of the barbecue
we're gonna have to clean it
great way to do this is to use 30 second
spot cleaner from easy off
specially made for barbecues
the best charcoal to use is charcoal
that will light itself
match light or minute light what i'm
going to do is i'm going to spread out
the charcoal
there's a nice layer
like a carpet of charcoal
all over the grains the idea is to use
enough charcoal
but not too much around the edges where
the food can touch the sides of the
grill
we build up the charcoal a little bit
and in the middle
we'll just create a flat carpet and
we're going to let it burn for about an
hour
before we close the top and the reason
why we're not going to close the top in
the beginning is because it could
extinguish the charcoal but once the
charcoal is lit
and ash is over you close it and it will
cost you the rest
of the grill as well
charcoal gets up over a thousand degrees
fahrenheit
which is hot enough to cause the grates
to glow
if you go to a park it's probably a good
idea to bring your own portable grill
because it would take you hours and
hours and hours to make the grill kosher
i hope this doesn't destroy his barbecue
the gummaram sakumtaflamanama bays
says that if you want to cash for
something like a griddle your mama
begumeri
you cover it with charcoal after this
fire goes out these coals are going to
glow
red hot and they're going to be even
hotter than they are now
now that the big fire is out and the
coals are glowing red hot
i'm going to close the top very
carefully
and let the grill run until the coals
burn out
and are safe to remove nowadays people
have all kinds of interesting uses for
their barbecues
people make fish on a barbecue people
make pizza on their barbecues
generally speaking fish and meat and
certainly
cheese pizza and meat don't go together
in a kosher home
so having a separate barbecue for fish
and for me actually might be a smart way
to go about things
fish and meat can be cooked on the same
kalem
according to most customs but not at the
same time and not when there's residue
from one to the other
if you had cleaned or covered the grates
so there's no meat residue according to
many you'd be able to cook the fish
directly on it
even though we discussed how to casher a
barbecue grill
lamyssa it's very difficult to do so
challenging
and sometimes dangerous two practical
aches are number one
they make disposable grills these
according to many pisces do not require
tfila even pay skin
that require tvl on throwaway
aluminum pans many of those pistons are
still makel here because
thoroughly aluminum pans are reusable
however
these throwaway barbecue grills since
definitively they're thrown away
after one usage do not require it's
feeling another eight is to bring your
own barbecue grill
if it's a regular grill it requires
tvilla there is no header
to use a regular grill even one time in
fact you can't
buy a pot and say i want to use it one
time without fila
the one-time header that some place
could give is based on the fact that
it's
made and meant to throw away however
small grill that's a non-disposable
grill
that you use is not meant to throw away
and therefore the whole holiday is it
requires te fila
even if you want to use it one time so
what happens if you're on a vacation
and you packed away a regular barbecue
grill and you come to your destination
and you realize
that this grill has not been titled so
you can't use it unless you title it
if you're really stuck and there's no
other option you can imagine it to an
end to your hoodie and then it becomes
their property they make a kenyan on it
it becomes theirs and at that point it's
potter for tvla for
very very short-term usage and then when
you're done you're kind of back
when you get home you're titled
let's say you have a self-cleaning oven
which will get rid of all the monmoshes
now if it will be considered cashing or
not
depends on whether you need that it
should get
red hot which it doesn't do
you probably know that i've said that
you can cash an oven
by just putting it on the highest
setting warm broil
for 40 minutes and then it will be
kosher
because you've got to clean it first so
even though that is tashmish or they are
in an oven and therefore pastas you
should need lemon
gummer and so okay there's some she just
hold the living cars enough
but we're not going to be relying that
especially when it comes to
uh
so why did i say that the reason why i
said that is because it's
rare to cook any hummus
on the racks of the oven itself
or to cook or to bake any hummus on the
bottom of the oven
it's always in a pan that you that
whatever you're baking it's always in a
pan it's a cake pan or cookie pan
or whatever even uh bread you don't
put them on on the racks as a matter of
fact if you put on the rack you will
never be able to get it off the rack
because
the the dough will go around the wreck
and after it's all
finished the only way you get it off if
you rip it out and you don't wouldn't
have any flame
or if you need it for yourself so since
it's always done in a pan the as far as
the belia of comets
that goes into the ranks
or the bottom of the oven is
always going to be from one clea
to another you know the the colors
that you're baking go it gives
taste into the pan which they're lying
on
then maybe some of the
this taste will go from the rack
from the from the pan to the rack well
we have a cloud that is doesn't go
mccleary or cleveland
but rama says that if you have a hotsuva
which is a tripod
and you use it for
um you make a fire on the ground
under the tripod and then you put the
pot on top of the tripod the tripod has
a ring on top of it
you put the pot on top of it and the
heat goes
under the pot that tripod you want to
use
you use it for hummus now you want to
use for pesach you
don't have to make a living hummer a
little cowl is sufficient
why because um you're cooking it apart
and the pot is touching the top of the
tripod
which you are trying to kasha so why do
you have the cash in the first place we
have a cloud that's a balloon doesn't go
with clear cleaver
you write them we're afraid that maybe
it's spilled over
and the and the writer went between
itself that
being afraid is good enough to make
leban cow with so it's because it's
with salmonella on the sheet is that
lemon cow is sufficient
so in the oven it's the same thing we
only have to be afraid that maybe
something the hummus
maybe touched iraq not intentionally
it's this exact same thing as a tripod
they were afraid maybe the hummus
spilled over so then
so the mission birth says that we
can be somewhere on lebanka