Hilchos Brochos - Part V

you hello and welcome to star Ches webinars we're here in the offices in Baltimore Maryland I'm Robert spiegelberg I'm glad that you could join with us today today we're going to hear a cheer from robin double-header this is the last in a series of webinars on health is Bravo's a pre perm special with issues that particularly arise on porn dealing with wine and with going perhaps you want to go from what house the other to join your friends and their meals do you have to make another brothel you're allowed to do that and we look forward to hear from our behavior today these webinars have been recorded and we hope to post them soon enough on our sister website kosher classes org along with all other webinars that have been posted up there you can look for our webinars the last Wednesday of every month at twelve noon you can sign up for the for the email reminders and go to starcade org and and you can sign up day look for our alerts and sign up for alerts and you'll be notified of these 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number its 218 895 1203 218 895 1203 and passcode is 2020 rabba hammer will be taking questions at the end of this webinar which runs about a half an hour or so so if you want you can chat them on your screen and we'll take them at the end memory sure it'll work um hi to everybody and the spirit of each other we're going to discuss a lotta stuff upper back often and in particular how they relate to to the poor masuda and another poor days but of course I don't have time to stand on love and support them we need to first go through some general office of barbaric often and then make the proper applications to port as is well known of course the bra wine or grape juice is a very often the din is that wine and grape juice are somewhat of unique beverage in the fact that they have the ability to Potter they have the ability to exempt other other beverages in when you make their braja let's step back for a moment as is well done oh what a person makes a ha might see they cover other items we had a share on this earlier from if I make a bite see I cover other products during the course of the meal the same is true when I make a bird crowd Guffin a wine or grape juice under certain conditions now look it is I patter I exempt I fulfilled my obligation on beverages so for example if a person made a bright krakoff and a wine and drank wine a lotta is they do not have to make a schakal on other beverages let's say they drink soda or water or juice those items are covered by the very often that you made on the wine again under certain conditions as we will see momentarily this could be very relevant the person comes into a perm soda and drinks let's say wine the halacha is the beverage that they're going to drink will be pattered with that background cuffin the one set on the wine now doesn't pander all shackles in other words participate a bran muffin and then they ain't some jelly beans or ate the chocolate bar a Tubba chicken or other shackles that a lot is one would be required to say to shackle on those items they only Potter the other types of beverages now that is only true as we said it's conditional one has to meet one or two conditions either the beverage is in front of you when you made the bike rack off it so for example if somebody's stand to get a kiddush then they make a buck off em on the wine or grape juice and there's on the table in front of them or general in front of them is this is soda and then they go drink the soda you do not need to shackle on the soda you don't even need a burden of fosters on the soda now and again he had a different shine call that requires a partner flashlights if you had a let's say potato kugel which was a which requires a burner flushes then you make the burner flushes anyway but if all you had was let's say wine and cake and soda you would make an automation I like a friend and that's it you would not need a burner flushes on the sort of the other case is if I had dice if I had in mind to ponter the beverages that will also work so even if it wasn't in front of me if let's say a person makes kids shot this morning and they're planning on drinking a cup of coffee afterwards wasn't in front of them they're gonna go make the coffee so then the same thing when you make the bike rack off and it has the ability to pop to the coffee as long as you had das you had intention either the pact of coffee or to ponte to exempt any beverage that you're going to drink that's the din of upper back often and its ability to pass their other other items now this is also only true if you drink the wine look buff I'm like look above is the cheek full on the air adult male has a blue buff of about one and a half to two fluid ounces if you drink of that amount then the halacha is you would patter the beverages and you're covered if you drink less than that amount it's a Suffolk in Allah whether or not you exempt the beverages so for example if a person took a snaps glass and it made a very often and they drank that amount of wine there's a Suffolk and I'm welcome there's a question whether or not you've exempted the other beverages even if they're in front of you and even if you had asked for them and there's a shyla so ideally one would either here's a hackle from somebody else or they would make a shackle on something else that definitively requires a a charcoal for example if we go to a kiddush and you hear the rub make skittish and now you take a little shops company peep or as you wanted to you have one ounce or less than one ounce of wine in your cup you drink it he's patra you with that very often and now you're covered for golf and you're covered for wine and grape juice do I have to make a shock hold you have to make a tackle on the soda well that's a Suffolk it out locker because you didn't drink a little muff and therefore if you want to drink soda either you should ask someone else who's making a shackle who didn't drink the wine who definitively has to make a shackle to Pat suit your war again go over to the to the table and pick a food shackle if it's available um again a candy or something like that or egg salad or liver if they eat straight would need a shackle and that will ponder your beverages otherwise a person is in a Suffolk usually we say something Brussels how call ultimately those are not options one would not make a shackle but don't get yourself into that situation and better not to drink that small amount now the topic of maleic look above if a person does drinkable I look buff of wine up then this is Suffolk whether they require brighten up or not in order to require Brock right now wine or for that matter any beverage one needs to drink or vyas if you drink between a bullet look above and Revere's or avisas approximately four fluid ounces so if you drink between two and four flew announces there's a Suffolk and a lot of whether you make an Alec definitely Kevin and therefore again a person should avoid that and should drink the full reveal in order to make a holographic map I got fed not technically but way out of this issue is if you ate cake because I some cake and you drank a male would buff of wine so now it's a Schuyler whether you make an Alec effort in this case once you're reciting that Allah mithya so you could already say that Alec effin because you drank enough that's maybe enough to be to require an all I Kevin so the bottom line is if you add a kiddush if you drink or reviews then you're covered on the beverages you're covered on the bright new future platoon will a little of it reveals you have a shyla whether you make a part on a Alec after rpi Kevin go to a cake then you can make that one if you like a fat kind of problem if you drink less than what I look buff you do not need a like FN for sure and there's a Suffolk and a lot of whether you cover the beverages or not and therefore one should try to pat themselves with with someone else now all of this of course if a person watches you don't have you don't have any of these problems because whether you take a sip after kids let's say friday night the bulb us make skittish and he gives everyone little cups of wine the lot is you don't have a concern with a a whether you pack to the beverages because you're not going to make a might see anyway so when you drink during the meal you drink the water the seltzer the soda those beverages are covered by the bar priyanka phone excuse me that covered by the up huh might see because they are part and parcel of the seuda and therefore there's no issue the only issue comes up if you're at a kiddush or you say kids shop this morning without washing element people down in the dutch government and very often will come home and do that then you run into these issues of of you do parts of the beverages or not when you make her go for this is a game shamans and port if you make our golfing and you drink from the wine that luck is you will then cover and panther all of the wine and grape juice that you drink throughout the meal so for example on Shabbes if you hear kiddush and someone gives you some wine to drink no matter how much you drank then you make I might see you do not need another birthday I golf during the course of the middle this is the game very often people like to drink wine during the meal we'll talk about if you're eating a different wine in a moment but if you're drinking the same type of wine or you're drinking grape juice in a way that there's no obligation to say have time I'm a div which we'll talk about then as long as you drank something when kiddush was recited even a small amount that burp rag often is covered so again so for example you make a putt putt golf on a kiddush you drank some kiddush then you want to treat some wine during the meal you don't need a very often or pour them you would drinking wine before the meal for whatever reason and then you went to wash and now you want to you want to drink more wine during the meal the lodges you do not need a part dolphin however if you did not drink any wine if you sit down to make I might see this is probably the most of nagaiah halacha here but for people who drink wine during a meal how might see does not cover wine during a meal so if you drink if you sit down and think I might see without having drunk before or without having part took in the protecting to the kiddush for example the ball bus makes kiddush passes a nap passing it around but you don't drink from that kid is now you realize a kiddush as long as you either soon afterwards you fulfilled your obligation of kiddush but you didn't drink so you did not exempt the very often the halacha is if you then decide to drink wine and grape juice during the course of the meal you're required to make a bread truck often because I might see doesn't cover it and of course the Griffin some Muslim that you recite at the end of the meal will have the ability to exempt and patter that beverage so so the bike rack often during a perm Souter ordering a regular sudah in a case you did where you do not protect in wine prior to that meal up requires its own bra or if you particular one in prior to the meal and it made a not like FN once again then there was a dude then you drank wine during the course of the meal once again you would not you would need to make another break cracked often because the kaya the strength of your original background often was terminated by the fact that you made a profit rate so those are the both of basic cases of our often when I want to just now is that what about time I made the castle established the brother of a time I made following the burial of those who died in Al Quaida Shem in pain tiredness occurred in the year 135 the Common Era so we're talking about it across facile of about almost 1,900 years ago the people of bait tire this is about 65 years after the her bias after the destruction of the base of my gosh they were massacred their bodies were left for an extended period of time this massacre occurred tisha buff it's one of the reasons we fast not Titian buff and they led they remain there until several years later and I'm tuple of which is one of the reasons why to Bob Mazzetti is a special day before yontiff they were allowed to be buried there was an ace that happen and they were the bodies did not decay and his he carton as a remembrance of this event when people drink wine where people tend perhaps to get out of hand has I'll established a broad to keep us a check and to remind us to remain to remain focused so to speak on not having countless Russian not getting out of hand Chris I tell you I Nathan was was also Masuka trips on muslin invention of the different conditions that you know that you don't need the conditions were going to speak about what a person by something with someone else that time I made them as recited when a person gives birth to a good boy and the husband and wife of both share in that simpler they were signed anti- so the brush was established in various other places we're going to address a lot of my time ain't it specific to line the locker is it was always has I'll say so when you make up our cargo fan on the wine and drink the wine or the grape juice you have now covered the liner gracious under certain conditions and there are many there are several rather conditions where you drink a second wine the locker is you are required to make out i pod native so the basic a lot of states that if a person drinks wine and then they drink a sec a different wine that meets certain conditions then the lock is on that second wine they're going to recite a hot time I make of the profits bravo channel here north i love hat I've a motive now one of those conditions and we have to say initially that those these conditions are and conditions which means in order to be able to make our type of make if you have to meet all of the above conditions and if you're missing any one of these conditions that law is you do not say a hot time I'm native the first condition is that you are doing this with other people and other other people who drank with you the first one and there are other people who are partaking in the second line if you're drinking wine alone then you do not say on time I'm active the second condition is that the second wine was not in front of you when you made your original buyer crack often if the first wine was in front of you in other words next using the second wife in other words you make kiddush and on the table there was other wine there was a different wine now the lot is you do not reside on time i mated on that second white now it goes without saying this is a basic condition then i have to mention that time i make it is of course when you drank a different wine if a person drinks wine and they drink a second glass of wine even if you meet the same wine you don't have time i made that that's that works off the original Bravo we're talking about where you brought out a different line so again if that was on the table so for example potom a person could come to a pseudo and the table it has various different wines on the table or they're right there in the room in front of them maybe they put it off to the side when they make the very often a lot is those wines are you do not need that time I make them on the second line the only case where you potentially was that time i mated is where you brought in the wine afterwards in other words you made Bret back off and on the first one and now you decide later sometime in this suitor in the and wine drinking period to bring out another wine then you bring out a second line not going to say on time I'm ain't it but again if it was in front of you when you made that Brett crack often then you do not need time I make them that is a discussion in the shipper up and about the place get exactly what it means it came out it's enough that as long as the wine was it was not here not in front of me it was in a different room and then you brought it out later that constitutes up coming out and that will be enough to go ahead and say hi time I might've the next condition that's necessary is that you need leftover wine from the first bottle in other words cause also like this the person if you finish the bottle and now the bottle is gone is empty and I sell we're done let's bring out another one that's not really she vez that just means we ran out let's bring out more that time I made them was masukin I will show me say them in a more aristocratic manner in the sense that people are drinking wine in a in a prominent way so people if you drink it in a primary way means always loved one left in the first bottle let's taste let's try the different bottle of one let's try a different one so in that case is where they established it if again if you finish the wine or frames them for example if you make kiddush and after kiddush they took in the wine with the backyard with the wine in it in a bottle and now there's no wine left on the table and then in the middle of a me like oh let's let's get a little wine and you bring it out this on time I made it's only where that original wine is there and there are leftovers in front of you and finally the next condition is that the wine is either equal or better the second line has to be equal or better if that wine is inferior the second wine is inferior to the first one then the lava is it you do not recite a hot time I made this so for example I would venture to guess that Malaga wine is probably inferior to some more higher quality of better tasting wine so for began their meal with a higher quality type of wine Asti Spumante for example and then they drank Malaga so Malaga is inferior to the ostensible Monte and therefore they would not recite that time I mounted on that second bottle of the lack of wine but if you went the other direction you went from a Malaga up in higher quality to a better line or even if they were equal other words does it have to be better as long as they're even can't be the same but let's say you have two wines that are basically equal in in prominence and taste and price and so on then thought luffa is that's good enough as long as it's not inferior so again to repeat let that not only understand that the conditions let's now elaborate or review rather the conditions that's none of reciting a time I'm a living number one again is it has to be the should fist the wine has to be together with others the logical Cazalas it should this it doesn't literally mean that you're a partner when somebody else that are we going to go to the store and we're going to up together we're going to walk in and okay it's a ten-dollar ten dollar bottle I put down five dollars you put down five dollars worshipful we're partners that certainly is an ideal example of ship this but it's even enough of I'm the ball bus and you're my guest and now the two of us are at the same table or even family members are together drinking that is enough to drinking this wine that is enough of a of a brothel off of to make up time I'm native so that's number one there are other people that are with you and at least two people together have drank the first n second line number two is that you have leftovers from the original bottle of one number three is that the second wine was not in front of you at the time of the bread crack off at and number four is that the second wine is equal or better than the first one as long as you've met all those conditions so let's let's talk about firm soda the person has wine on the table wine a certain type of wine and they make up a coffin and they drink and there's drinking with other people at the table and there is leftover then finish the bottle yet and they bring out another bottle of wine which is equal to or better than the first bottle that case you'd have a type of native because again you've met the conditions there are other people there the leftover wine is still there it was brought out from so I speak outside not it wasn't in this room when you said the part track after originally and finally it is that one second wine is equal to or better than than the first one that is the din of about time I made now just as an aside Donna why before we get to the next issue of shitty vodka which really doesn't only relate to wine it relates to other food I'd like to just mention what my reverie plus thats all used to speak about our poem regarding to din of advil yada he speak out to deceive us Oh Betty what Rebecca luskey was held that it didn't I believe that based on the deceivers really is not an Indian of drinking but rather it's the ability to be back here to recognize is no difference between hummin and mortar high Gotham in our Avila Barbara had both how about at work i served equal purpose okay how can that be how fun was this big russia and mark i was the sonic the answer is is that because of home on clients were all verizon to chuva without him on of certain things that the key with a capable of clients are we accepting the tyra of coming together too fast together and two together as climbing stroll to offset the period to offset the division one in control that had taken place that was taking place at that time foods room of fighter banana muhammad said they're all over the dispersed day their splintered they don't get a lawn and the ants dunk to that was clients all coming together and then serving the rebuttal i live in such a beautiful way so ultimately hum-1 serves as a catalyst that's one of the reasons i'm honest is also it brings the afters of Chloe's well so that was the catalyst so if a person wrecking is that on Porter they come to the Hat Caro they come to the recognition of of the little difference between our home bar mark I not necessarily to an alcoholic beverages but rather in contemplating this in one's online that is the greatest way to fulfill the Union the Mitzvah up I w other than our humble about Mordecai now the den is is the person if they change of course it changes locations under certain conditions one is required to recite another bro another bra and we have to see these conditions under certain conditions yes and other certain conditions no it's known as shooting mark I'm she needs to change Markham is location for now let's assume that she and market means you leave the building and go somewhere else okay we're gonna wheee going to touch of this at the end but let's for simplicity in this case certainly the sheen and Marco you're in your own one a one important party or one pursuit up and then you decide to relocate to a different place to a different location does one sign a noob refurbish China or not and then is as follows it depends on what you hate if a person eats ha might see or busyness except for rice shinasai Menon which would include the various fruits which pomegranates dates great etc or wine and you made a cause ice in one location and then you relocated that locker is one does not require a new bra Commissioner in that location so if a person drank wine in this location and then they change somewhere else and they didn't ideally where for a person leaves their first location ideally they should really say Brock Ryder before they change unless of course a person is really going to many different places but in general it's always a safer bet unless it's maybe a couple houses down and there's no reason you know in two minutes you need the person is going to get in a car and drive off somewhere ideally make a bracha front here and then make another run another location simply because it's very easy to forget what's happening but if that change is happening immediately then you know I'm meeting my person in a few places or I'm going from Party to party from a secret embassy but then what brother is certainly enough where you made one of those bras certainly bidi a batalha is if a person change location they didn't recite a bra right in that original location certainly they would not need to say any another prophet now this is true ideally where you had that me where you had come fun when you made the original bra for example what that means is if a person is planning on being in two places for the pursuit of their starting laughing location any and they're going to locate should be maybe they're beginning the family in one location and then they want to go to Abby's house or they want to go to other popular they want to go to so where the action is shall we say or more action is then a lot is if you may not might see ideally when you made that I might see at the beginning of the pseudo ideally you had that and qivana for another location so you're starting off in place a when you make I might see you say you know i'm planning on change locations during this time you go to one location to the next location you don't require another might see it's covered by the first one in the last location you'll either cause I nice of bread and you will bench at that point in the last location you want to do one you make our Guffin here and you have tossed in other places and then you go to the other places and at the end you'll drink or a at that point you'll drink a sheer ideally review some wine grape juice and you'll make a knowledge a friend in that location you want to eat cake in this location start here Go Go different receivers and then delete designs of cake have that's the beginning you can't get to add or any other designs except rice and then you make an elephant that is the dinner of sheena Malcolm again you start with a science size of a golf ball in your original location and then you work your way all around town and your last location you eat a sheer and you then make a elevation that will cover all of the different elevations now you cannot have a too long of a break in time over here if a person goes 72 minutes without making a profit right now then that's too long unless they're still full but generally speaking if you go upsetting two minutes and you're not full in fact buy drinks we say it's a half hour look at filo but be happy to have up until 72 minutes if you go more in 72 minutes and you're not full you have lost your opportunity to say brother frightened on the original meal of your original when you ate even if he more in that location which you are able to do you still have lost the ability to make a buck right now unless you're still full so person wants the you know what a delay too long in this going around you want to eat as you go around from Mussina intimacy but now all of that is true by the by the examples that we gave however if a person ate hot dumb or r 8 except for Shiva subpoena AHA called or they ate rice those do not have a theist so to speak when you make a shackle here person ate chocolate they made chacal or they had candy in one location or they ate someone serve them chicken or meat that meatballs and rice in this location and then they leave this location they need to make another brokerage China in the next location and that's true if you go you go around a black that's true you go outside how lucky is that scene in Makkah once you go outside you broken the cheapness of the bra according to some of you see that area is good enough so perhaps your front porch certainly will not be cheap Ibaka but if you go out of your house and you've left the premises now that constitution in Makkah and you're going to need a new broccoli shiner solve your at that Missy but you all you drank was soda and then you finish the soda and you went elsewhere then now Walker is you will need another shot call in that location the truth is the shitty buckle doesn't only apply to go somewhere else in these cases it applies even if I come back if a person is eating alone you ate an apple you made a fruit and you you're-you're eating of meatballs and rice in the middle of supper and let's say you're alone and you say okay time for good tomorrow and remit club I gotta run up so you run two bit's up and now you've gone out of your house for you know 25 minutes and then you come back and finish your supper you need another broad shine it you have to make a shackle on is to make a design is on the rice and to make a shackle on the on the meatballs because that shooting welcome you have changed your location and when you change your location you need another bra the exception to that is if there's people who were still present in other words you were eating supper with other people that's the husband and wife reading and the husband runs out to dive and other runs not to run some errand or something one of the children need to be picked up or whatever it might be they come back to their supper table or to the middle table someone else is still there that is aqueous and that's good enough you don't need another but right or if they were eating the Zionists then again if you were eating one of those otherwise we're eating a brand meal and you left and came back then you do not require another prop writer so so excuse but you don't need another broker you shinin in that case so to sum it up when a person goes from a sieve intimacy but the question is it depends on what they ate whether or not they need a broth up a new Bravo Regina or not again ideally if this time between besitos you should just before you leave where you were you should just make a brine up and then you'll end up in another naseeba and you make another profit machine it again unless you going next door or you go on around the block and you ain't designers then just you know have in mind and it covers all the cases but if you're gonna be a time-lapse which very often there is then just make a bracha friday in the original location and then make another brother who's china in the next location however if you didn't do that or again you're going from house to house of a Miss Eva or boo then the dinners weren't you made huh might see and you're going from suda2 Sudha and you're in the middle of that pork so you have to bench every time because you're in the middle of you of this suit up then that what is you forget if you made a might see where you made the site is except rice uhm something and we drank wine then you could have passed originally you're starting at 3pm task and then you know till 8pm you're going from place to place the place then you're with those items it's covered under the original problem because there's a crease however if you just drank something besides why your gracious or you had an apple in this location and then you're going elsewhere then you need a new bra harish I know when you change your location if you hate the Dumber something give you a piece of potato kugel over here and you hand out dumber and that's what you ain't yet potato kugel soda yet a dama or shackle and another size of the pieces in the potatoes and you made a shackle on a drink and now you go into a different house you need another chacal or hot DOMA in that location because there's no fee so amazing in those cases you may go braja it's covered your time you see me make a right at the end if it's the items of hot dama and in such a call and rice and pasajes besides just a minute then you would make in every place that you are you would make another Bravo up in that location now on one other point is that even the kind of that we said even the items that are considered quiesce if you make a profit we shina here it's covered in the other places as we said cake I can a piece of cake here making scientist I can go to Tennessee busy ten pieces of cake my original design is covered me as long as there was not a lot likely time lapse of other certain conditions and I wasn't pissy if das which means i did not have you know i didn't terminate my mind and say I've done it covers all those cases that's where I ate a cause ice in the original location if a person just made it busyness and took a little nibble of a piece of cake and then they change locations they would need another designers in that other location you gotta eat a cos I in this location in order for that Bravo to work the exception to that rule and what this and is it a person is eating a meal let's say and they were planning on eating a meal um as they went in other words certainly you traveled associated welcome if you're in a car that's all consider well welcome believe it if a person may I might see at home this is relevant let's say you're going on a trip and you want to supper time you get in the car you can eat the car you're the rush to get to get going so you want to wash in your house but you're not really eating your bread until you get to the car and you don't want to just wash and go to the car you have to lock up and then check on things then you could in that case the price could say contemporary bicep say you can make out might see you eat a little bit of bread in this location and then because you know you're about to get into the car it's all considered one big sweep and now you go in the car and you could continue eating even though you a lesson cuz ice here you're not obligated to eat a whole his eyes here if I know in one minute I'm going to be in the car soon as I lock off the door and check the timers and check the lights and blend and so on that's that's okay you could make I'm like to eat a little bit and then you could move you know lock up everything and then go to the car and in your suit that's not considered shooting market in such a case so this really covers the different areas of burn tech often and how to deal with that type of native and of course the after Brava of wine and grape juice is an hour Geffen a preg FN of course after sudah it is its business of muslin which will certainly cover any wine that was drunk in any wine that was common during the course of the meal finally what is she bucket as we mention when you leave your location that scheana maka when you're in a room there's no shita maken you could you can make a bracha shining here and go to the other side of the room without any Suffolk whatsoever without any doubt you can even bench on the other side of the room you don't have to bench in the seat that you ate this is very relevant the person seat someone else took the seat or some other reason why you can't stay there you know who you're not obligated to go back to thats it you could move to the other side of the table to the other side of the room if a person changes rooms this is shyla whether or not it's considered she and welcomed we hold that it's naturally Malcolm when it comes to rockridge shiner however will have heel a person should have qivana that they're changing rooms if you're eating piece of cake here and you go to another room let Syria to see boat where there are many rooms and lot going on then you can make designers here ideally have that's for other rooms but the oven if you did not have that you didn't have in mind it works in any room so even even buy drinks if you had a soda here in Morocco and then you went to another room where you had an apple in this room he went to another room and yet another Apple in the same building you don't need a new property show the same would apply the apartments in a particle if you can make a bird rates on the 50th floor and then you go to the 10th floor and eat more fruit another Apple as long as you did not terminate the Braha original car bra that's okay in the same building Sheena Malcolm is when you change buildings when you rather when you've left the building or even change buildings that's considered cheating welcome as a person's in a field if you've seen that area there to pick me for example and there's a picnic table so then from one table to the next where they see each other it's not a problem if you were one picnic area and went to the other side of the park that would be considered cheating Makka even though you even change rooms there are no rules here but that Constitution welcome because you really cannot see from place a to place be that is the notion of malcolm x then off work often and I didn't of coffee break off and take our native I'll take questions can we go have some questions or ever have one of them I think you just addressed does change location mean also from the basement of the first four right so we would say that um you change locations based on first floor and you never require to make another proper wine and provided you mean all the other conditions a process it will be covered by that original brought knife i want to mention i fail to mention this that for british a Muslim or a la mesilla the lava is one should bench or Salem if you in the original room that they resided that properly shiner or unless they hate the other rooms of just simply kissable case yet i might see in this room you went to a different room you should I pension room should come back to the original route if you left this location you should come back and you didn't need anywhere else you should come back to the original location to save us a muslin Olivia or NFL pre heights however if a person aim a shackle a Adama or rice or high aids which is not just a minim go up then you could make the burn of fascist any way you like so if you if you you made it here and go to the basement you drink the brushes there include to return to reach location you left the building you drove away you can make the very luscious there as well it's not a problem only by how might see design is except for rice should be some in them and wine and grape juice one is required to return so that's it that's just another important case person made a bright drag off in here in this room and they went downstairs they wouldn't have to come back here to make that like a fan unless they drank downstairs president Hollande enfant here and they went from the semen to the sea without drinking anything more they don't have to go back to the original location to make the elegant the rpi Kevin Cano and if that's not possible think they will make on all again for Kevin in that case where they are for example persons in an airport they have made up might see they hit a meal right and now they the plane is you know it was time to benj they Borden or they forgot to benefit out of the plane and they're on the plane and the plane is already you know doors close or if not close no one's going to want to get off a plane or certainly the plane took off then we would say better to bench here they're not fetch at all even though you can't return to visual kitchen if you're collecting from house to house would there be a brother Shane of three hood well again it really depends um okay we're talking about now the din of shackles and laces and I'm Thomas the kinds of Russian street is what I did not need it the pipes can say what a person leaves but the church a regular case a person is leaving this location and he figures you know he's driving somewhere off and he's getting some more over there sound brought chance Rita to make of em brought her here and a brought mashona they're the reason isn't because people forget it's not about chance trees i'm here now 20 minutes later I'm somewhere else and then you're gonna go somewhere else you can see you know you go you can see other people strong legs up until you get to eat is is difficult is that you know you may not get to eat as fast as you thought or humanity at all so it's not much chance reason people tend to forget when they leave original location they very easily forget to make a bra cup and therefore ideally one should make a bra Cochran in that original occasion however where person is doing something where it's known that they're going to eat for example the person's invited to share bras so their venture brothers but natural all chefs invited to come for dessert is very common the family makes our office went they won't invite their neighbors for dessert and prevention so now you may not might see at home and you're finishing your meal and at the neighbors around the block you're going to eat more so you don't have to bench here and then wash again over there because that's you're not going to forget you go into a shower office and they're serving you food ideally should really eat bread in a second location if you're going to pitch there um and now you're not going to forget so same thing with a perma see like we're going from door to door people live in close proximity to each other you're in you're in that that area so now you're right you made a cake cake cake here you know you're going few houses down and you plan on eating more then it would be an option it's rica in such a case um however if you if you go on a distance of time and you're afraid that you might forget then you should really make the russia right here and certainly when you're drinking beverages so it's you anyway you can have to make a new boob rakesh i know in the next half so there's already termination in that case so if you just drank water here if you're drinking along the way and it's like you're on the road so then it's one profit counts the contemporary price could say but if you just drank here and you schmooze and you sang and so on now you're getting up to go to the next Missy but and now you know that's cheating and welcome you get it in Lucia Hackl in that location when you finally get around to drinking better make a brighter flushes here and that would you decide to drink the next time we read the eat a piece of kugel there you'll make another bra if he eats I'm a picnic table he wants to finish in his car do you have to make another bro if the car was visible time we were from your picnic site again it fits how might see and so on you certainly don't need another Bravo but if you just ate nan the items that are you know the Damas and shackles etc then if you saw your car then you would not need another Bravo because we consider it as one area but if it was the car was somewhere else then you would require another bra going back to affirmative one person brings the Y for others to drink but he paid for it not the other people casual manner Pepe paying is not an issue where the general notion of the shark is a should fist which would want to get what would like our case would mean we both pay for it the pies can say it's not the clutch additional should fish that we know meaning session but talks about shook them were partners what's a partner how do I become a partner our brothers who Yaran are they partners right there all sorts of denim of children you don't need the classic question there's been short of here if I have wine in my house and i'm the violin I'm the older but I put it down in front of everybody and you're my guests and I say partake in this wine you are now considered a short of of mine even though legally the bottle is mine I have the violin full owner of that bottle of wine for example if you took the bottle of walked out right i would say what are you doing right that's my bottles well you let us drink it most of all by the same one second I didn't don't take it home it's for our joint mijnheer at the seuda right so obviously I'm the owner in that case and I could stop somebody from walking off with it I make the conditions up you know let's drink right let's drink so then the dinner is in that case the fact you could drink is enough that makes you a should've and the fact you're drinking with me you sort of speak become the Bible than what's in your cup you're the owner so to speak and and now we are you know we are we are part owners together each of us in that bottle of wine and therefore that's good enough coming back to the top mated why when is it is equal an equal type of one you have to make a second Brooklyn even if there is one left from the first bottom so that's that's the difference masalas what you're touching on is a total of the topic we're a person 80 let's say an apple and you made a variance on an apple and you now you want to eat an orange so there are all sorts of conditions here do you need other broth or not so pick it sir if the oranges in front of you or you brought out or you had pass on that orange it's good enough you don't need another Bravo but the law says the follows if it's a similar type of item like two routes for example an apple and an orange and now you're in the middle of eating the Apple and then you bring out the orange and you have left over from that apples though you don't need another part brags on the orange it's covered by the Apple so that's a good excellent question and that's true by other prophets you would not need another brother on the art and so when it comes to hilton bar if you have golf n in this case technically else to dinner by track often if you had one line and you still have leftovers from that wine and you brought on a different wine you would not need another bra that's where cause I work and we're recycling the special bra they said in this case it's really it's not a brother son n in here and it's not going with the regular guidelines and gross on that in the profits we make when we have pleasure from from things but rather it's a brothel on door it's praising a college bar offal and that's actually I've time I'm native is only resided with other people the other untie my maintenance as well all right except for benching are only resided with other people oh that's really going off on a tangent but lamesa is a shaft flying dog and therefore the conditions don't fit in they gave a different kidhar different guidelines then the regular denim up your son and they're bringing out more food and it's in this case think they establish this special Bravo can you judge the kashi vez of a wine based on the price that's a good question and I've researched this little bit and look through the pie scoop and the Dharam the guidelines of better or not are are sometimes difficult to be mobbed they're difficult to to establish it would seem to be that if a blind is of similar value from the other wine then it would seem to be good enough certainly the line cost more um the question becomes and then I don't have exact answers that sell it to this is we call it turkey it if let's say the wine costs more but you know I think it's inferior people think it's inferior cost more because of some other reason or it costs less but it seems to be a better wine so you have a you know is it is it price is it is it taste is it my taste is if the general taste you know suffice it is to say that it generally goes by if it's if it's generally considered equal value and that's how people consider it of equal or better in value then that's good enough um and it's all the involvement it tastes better regal it's better in price or equal to you know that's good enough for you have one and not the other that gets a little bit a little more difficult to establish and again something profit of a person is in a Suffolk you say okay I'm not way of figuring out what's the story with this wine is then they will not make a second broth certainly you can take a poll of who likes it better and you don't even know if it's better when you're looking at how you supposed to determine you know is it better is it not better than no way of making the determination um you know something proper Huckle in that case and you would not make a broth right do not make a dinner later we have some more questions if I'm ever ever yes okay so we're going back to what you talked about at the beginning when you make kiddush in shul and then you come home to eat the suit do you have to drink wine before the seuda and say a say about prayer Guffin again no and I would say no but you will be a bar crack golfing under the following circumstance so the question is I heard kinases shoal I was yet to concede sure to be executed showed means that I heard or I recited kiddush and then with all the conditions whoever made kitna strength the right shear or the shear was shared amongst others kiddush was recited kid takuna and i personally partook in a zoo de asuna would be defined as either bread or more common and a kiddush would be commissioning a thought about types of process items like cake would be the classic example but crackers are good even pasta salad would be good you don't have to have a possible kisten linguine salad as long as you any cosines would be when turns to a suitor so I had kiddush muffin suit up I heard Kennish pity guna re making script Hakuna proper manner and I hate my student now I've been saying my feet of my obligation of kish for the day I be next as soon as shabbos the term Sudha here means that my Sudha of cake facilitated the bird priyanka fed took me to to work it's facilitating the kiddush to be considered a kiddush and now I had kids from suit up and I'm going to go now I come home and now the question is do I have to make kids together you know of course if there's people there very often you'll come to home and your guests or maybe your wife or one of the children's and not your kiddush so certainly you going to make it is for them will then third they will make that person will recite kids up for themselves that's that's certainly the case but let's say no one needs to your condition some people are not eat during the day they'll come on make cash anyways nothing wrong with that because you're just reciting an additional burn crack Afeni soaked in sake Emma Thompson can check okay there's nothing wrong with that of course at night you can only make kiddush once if everyone at the tables been doing some kid is already you do not have the ability to be it to make it a second time but back to back to Chavez Day which is the more common case you per everyone's heard kid it's already and you do not need kiddush again or again someone said kids but you didn't hear kinoshita you'll hurt in shul you made your holla holla Geffen and now you come home so many kids but you didn't even you didn't partake in the line you didn't need to protect the wine because you already are kiddush so you know your your kid is shooting concentrated kiddush and you need more boats point you to drink enough from the kitchen did you get anything from the kitchen now let's make this case simple you don't make kiddush now during the meal you need one you wanted your wine that Lawson is you would make a birth track often the fact that you make kiddush in shul well it's surely you may not like effing already so the kiddush of shul does not help you anymore and home and therefore you would now wash and you up you would have to make a new part track often during the course of the meal same is true if you came over much go a minute you make kiddush you trying to wine you had your suitor whether it was by might see or it was cake or whatever it might be crackers so on and now you would it's it's you know 1930 ten o'clock now you said learn for a couple hours twelve o'clock you eat your lunch again you don't have to make kiddush everyone our kid is ready now you make hot Mike seate and then see the Commission up and now you want to drink wine or grape juice you would need to make a coffin that morning break pro golfer did not help for now and to make I tag my mates if you think two lines at this point you would have even have one wine and now if you bring out a second one under all the conditions that we said earlier one would resign a times I've made it if you meet those conditions okay thank you very much or just which everyone and friends important and again remembering the words of the Sivas upward of the current pouring is the spiritual growth the roughness ticket growth that we have in our celebration of the salvation of clients role and our ongoing recognition through bunnell i love the barrio eloquence by remaining asylum a coach barbara created the world and continues to run the world even 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