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Hilchos Brochos - Part V
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Rabbi Dovid Heber, Star-K Kashrus Administrator, discusses the halachos of reciting a brocha over wine. Hosted by Rabbi Zvi Goldberg, Star-K Kashrus Administrator.
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everybody and the spirit of each other
we're going to discuss a lotta stuff
upper back often and in particular how
they relate to to the poor masuda and
another poor days but of course I don't
have time to stand on love and support
them we need to first go through some
general office of barbaric often and
then make the proper applications to
port as is well known of course the bra
wine or grape juice is a very often the
din is that wine and grape juice are
somewhat of unique beverage in the fact
that they have the ability to Potter
they have the ability to exempt other
other beverages in when you make their
braja let's step back for a moment as is
well done oh what a person makes a ha
might see they cover other items we had
a share on this earlier from if I make a
bite see I cover other products during
the course of the meal the same is true
when I make a bird crowd Guffin a wine
or grape juice under certain conditions
now look it is I patter I exempt I
fulfilled my obligation on beverages so
for example if a person made a bright
krakoff and a wine and drank wine a
lotta is they do not have to make a
schakal on other beverages let's say
they drink soda or
water or juice those items are covered
by the very often that you made on the
wine again under certain conditions as
we will see momentarily this could be
very relevant the person comes into a
perm soda and drinks let's say wine the
halacha is the beverage that they're
going to drink will be pattered with
that background cuffin the one set on
the wine now doesn't pander all shackles
in other words participate a bran muffin
and then they ain't some jelly beans or
ate the chocolate bar a Tubba chicken or
other shackles that a lot is one would
be required to say to shackle on those
items they only Potter the other types
of beverages now that is only true as we
said it's conditional one has to meet
one or two conditions either the
beverage is in front of you when you
made the bike rack off it so for example
if somebody's stand to get a kiddush
then they make a buck off em on the wine
or grape juice and there's on the table
in front of them or general in front of
them is this is soda and then they go
drink the soda you do not need to
shackle on the soda you don't even need
a burden of fosters on the soda now and
again he had a different shine call that
requires a partner flashlights if you
had a let's say potato kugel which was a
which requires a burner flushes then you
make the burner flushes anyway but if
all you had was let's say wine and cake
and soda you would make an automation I
like a friend and that's it you would
not need a burner flushes on the sort of
the other case is if I had dice if I had
in mind to ponter the beverages that
will also work so even if it wasn't in
front of me if let's say a person makes
kids shot this morning and they're
planning on drinking a cup of coffee
afterwards wasn't in front of them
they're gonna go make the coffee so then
the same thing when you make the bike
rack off and it has the ability to pop
to the coffee as long as you had das you
had intention either the pact of coffee
or to ponte to exempt any beverage that
you're going to drink that's the din of
upper back often and its ability to pass
their other other items now this is also
only true if you drink the wine look
buff I'm like look above is the cheek
full on the air
adult male has a blue buff of about one
and a half to two fluid ounces if you
drink of that amount then the halacha is
you would patter the beverages and
you're covered if you drink less than
that amount it's a Suffolk in Allah
whether or not you exempt the beverages
so for example if a person took a snaps
glass and it made a very often and they
drank that amount of wine there's a
Suffolk and I'm welcome there's a
question whether or not you've exempted
the other beverages even if they're in
front of you and even if you had asked
for them and there's a shyla so ideally
one would either here's a hackle from
somebody else or they would make a
shackle on something else that
definitively requires a a charcoal for
example if we go to a kiddush and you
hear the rub make skittish and now you
take a little shops company peep or as
you wanted to you have one ounce or less
than one ounce of wine in your cup you
drink it he's patra you with that very
often and now you're covered for golf
and you're covered for wine and grape
juice do I have to make a shock hold you
have to make a tackle on the soda well
that's a Suffolk it out locker because
you didn't drink a little muff and
therefore if you want to drink soda
either you should ask someone else who's
making a shackle who didn't drink the
wine who definitively has to make a
shackle to Pat suit your war again go
over to the to the table and pick a food
shackle if it's available um again a
candy or something like that or egg
salad or liver if they eat straight
would need a shackle and that will
ponder your beverages otherwise a person
is in a Suffolk usually we say something
Brussels how call ultimately those are
not options one would not make a shackle
but don't get yourself into that
situation and better not to drink that
small amount now the topic of maleic
look above if a person does drinkable I
look buff of wine up then this is
Suffolk whether they require brighten up
or not in order to require Brock right
now wine or for that matter any beverage
one needs to drink or vyas if you drink
between a bullet look above and Revere's
or avisas approximately four fluid
ounces so if you drink between two and
four flew announces there's a Suffolk
and a lot of whether you make an Alec
definitely
Kevin and therefore again a person
should avoid that and should drink the
full reveal in order to make a
holographic map I got fed not
technically but way out of this issue is
if you ate cake because I some cake and
you drank a male would buff of wine so
now it's a Schuyler whether you make an
Alec effort in this case once you're
reciting that Allah mithya so you could
already say that Alec effin because you
drank enough that's maybe enough to be
to require an all I Kevin so the bottom
line is if you add a kiddush if you
drink or reviews then you're covered on
the beverages you're covered on the
bright new future platoon will a little
of it reveals you have a shyla whether
you make a part on a Alec after rpi
Kevin go to a cake then you can make
that one if you like a fat kind of
problem if you drink less than what I
look buff you do not need a like FN for
sure and there's a Suffolk and a lot of
whether you cover the beverages or not
and therefore one should try to pat
themselves with with someone else now
all of this of course if a person
watches you don't have you don't have
any of these problems because whether
you take a sip after kids let's say
friday night the bulb us make skittish
and he gives everyone little cups of
wine the lot is you don't have a concern
with a a whether you pack to the
beverages because you're not going to
make a might see anyway so when you
drink during the meal you drink the
water the seltzer the soda those
beverages are covered by the bar
priyanka phone excuse me that covered by
the up huh might see because they are
part and parcel of the seuda and
therefore there's no issue the only
issue comes up if you're at a kiddush or
you say kids shop this morning without
washing element people down in the dutch
government and very often will come home
and do that then you run into these
issues of of you do parts of the
beverages or not when you make her go
for this is a game shamans and port if
you make our golfing and you drink from
the wine that luck is you will then
cover and panther all of the wine and
grape juice that you drink throughout
the meal so for example on Shabbes if
you hear kiddush and someone gives you
some wine to drink no matter how much
you drank then you make I might see you
do not need another birthday I golf
during the course of the middle this is
the game very often people like to drink
wine during the meal we'll talk about if
you're eating a different wine in a
moment but if you're drinking the same
type of wine or you're drinking grape
juice in a way that there's no
obligation to say have time I'm a div
which we'll talk about then as long as
you drank something when kiddush was
recited even a small amount that burp
rag often is covered so again so for
example you make a putt putt golf on a
kiddush you drank some kiddush then you
want to treat some wine during the meal
you don't need a very often or pour them
you would drinking wine before the meal
for whatever reason and then you went to
wash and now you want to you want to
drink more wine during the meal the
lodges you do not need a part dolphin
however if you did not drink any wine if
you sit down to make I might see this is
probably the most of nagaiah halacha
here but for people who drink wine
during a meal how might see does not
cover wine during a meal so if you drink
if you sit down and think I might see
without having drunk before or without
having part took in the protecting to
the kiddush for example the ball bus
makes kiddush passes a nap passing it
around but you don't drink from that kid
is now you realize a kiddush as long as
you either soon afterwards you fulfilled
your obligation of kiddush but you
didn't drink so you did not exempt the
very often the halacha is if you then
decide to drink wine and grape juice
during the course of the meal you're
required to make a bread truck often
because I might see doesn't cover it and
of course the Griffin some Muslim that
you recite at the end of the meal will
have the ability to exempt and patter
that beverage so so the bike rack often
during a perm Souter ordering a regular
sudah in a case you did where you do not
protect in wine prior to that meal up
requires its own bra or if you
particular one in prior to the meal and
it made a not like FN once again then
there was a dude then you drank wine
during the course of the meal once again
you would not you would need to make
another break cracked often because the
kaya the strength of your original
background often was terminated by the
fact that you made a profit rate so
those are the both of basic cases of our
often when I want to just now is that
what about time I made the castle
established the brother of a time I made
following the burial of those who died
in Al Quaida Shem in pain tiredness
occurred in the year 135 the Common Era
so we're talking about it across facile
of about almost 1,900 years ago the
people of bait tire this is about 65
years after the her bias after the
destruction of the base of my gosh they
were massacred their bodies were left
for an extended period of time this
massacre occurred tisha buff it's one of
the reasons we fast not Titian buff and
they led they remain there until several
years later and I'm tuple of which is
one of the reasons why to Bob Mazzetti
is a special day before yontiff they
were allowed to be buried there was an
ace that happen and they were the bodies
did not decay and his he carton as a
remembrance of this event when people
drink wine where people tend perhaps to
get out of hand has I'll established a
broad to keep us a check and to remind
us to remain to remain focused so to
speak on not having countless Russian
not getting out of hand Chris I tell you
I Nathan was was also Masuka trips on
muslin invention of the different
conditions that you know that you don't
need the conditions were going to speak
about what a person by something with
someone else that time I made them as
recited when a person gives birth to a
good boy and the husband and wife of
both share in that simpler they were
signed anti- so the brush was
established in various other places
we're going to address a lot of my time
ain't it specific to line the locker is
it was always has I'll say so when you
make up our cargo fan on the wine and
drink the wine or the grape juice you
have now covered the liner gracious
under certain conditions and there are
many there are several rather conditions
where you drink a second wine the locker
is you are required to make out i pod
native so the basic a lot of states that
if a person drinks wine and then they
drink a sec
a different wine that meets certain
conditions then the lock is on that
second wine they're going to recite a
hot time I make of the profits bravo
channel here north i love hat I've a
motive now one of those conditions and
we have to say initially that those
these conditions are and conditions
which means in order to be able to make
our type of make if you have to meet all
of the above conditions and if you're
missing any one of these conditions that
law is you do not say a hot time I'm
native the first condition is that you
are doing this with other people and
other other people who drank with you
the first one and there are other people
who are partaking in the second line if
you're drinking wine alone then you do
not say on time I'm active the second
condition is that the second wine was
not in front of you when you made your
original buyer crack often if the first
wine was in front of you in other words
next using the second wife in other
words you make kiddush and on the table
there was other wine there was a
different wine now the lot is you do not
reside on time i mated on that second
white now it goes without saying this is
a basic condition then i have to mention
that time i make it is of course when
you drank a different wine if a person
drinks wine and they drink a second
glass of wine even if you meet the same
wine you don't have time i made that
that's that works off the original Bravo
we're talking about where you brought
out a different line so again if that
was on the table so for example potom a
person could come to a pseudo and the
table it has various different wines on
the table or they're right there in the
room in front of them maybe they put it
off to the side when they make the very
often a lot is those wines are you do
not need that time I make them on the
second line the only case where you
potentially was that time i mated is
where you brought in the wine afterwards
in other words you made Bret back off
and on the first one and now you decide
later sometime in this suitor in the
and wine drinking period to bring out
another wine then you bring out a second
line not going to say on time I'm ain't
it but again if it was in front of you
when you made that Brett crack often
then you do not need time I make them
that is a discussion in the shipper up
and about the place get exactly what it
means it came out it's enough that as
long as the wine was it was not here not
in front of me it was in a different
room and then you brought it out later
that constitutes up coming out and that
will be enough to go ahead and say hi
time I might've the next condition
that's necessary is that you need
leftover wine from the first bottle in
other words cause also like this the
person if you finish the bottle and now
the bottle is gone is empty and I sell
we're done let's bring out another one
that's not really she vez that just
means we ran out let's bring out more
that time I made them was masukin I will
show me say them in a more aristocratic
manner in the sense that people are
drinking wine in a in a prominent way so
people if you drink it in a primary way
means always loved one left in the first
bottle let's taste let's try the
different bottle of one let's try a
different one so in that case is where
they established it if again if you
finish the wine or frames them for
example if you make kiddush and after
kiddush they took in the wine with the
backyard with the wine in it in a bottle
and now there's no wine left on the
table and then in the middle of a me
like oh let's let's get a little wine
and you bring it out this on time I made
it's only where that original wine is
there and there are leftovers in front
of you and finally the next condition is
that the wine is either equal or better
the second line has to be equal or
better if that wine is inferior the
second wine is inferior to the first one
then the lava is it you do not recite a
hot time I made this so for example I
would venture to guess that Malaga wine
is probably inferior to some more higher
quality of better tasting wine so for
began their meal with a higher quality
type of wine Asti Spumante for example
and then they drank Malaga so Malaga is
inferior to the ostensible Monte and
therefore they would not recite that
time I mounted on that second bottle of
the lack of wine but if you went the
other direction you went from a Malaga
up in higher quality to a better line or
even if they were equal other words does
it have to be better as long as they're
even can't be the same but let's say you
have two wines that are basically equal
in in prominence and taste and price and
so on then thought luffa is that's good
enough as long as it's not inferior so
again to repeat let that not only
understand that the conditions let's now
elaborate or review rather the
conditions that's none of reciting a
time I'm a living number one again is it
has to be the should fist the wine has
to be together with others the logical
Cazalas it should this it doesn't
literally mean that you're a partner
when somebody else that are we going to
go to the store and we're going to up
together we're going to walk in and okay
it's a ten-dollar ten dollar bottle I
put down five dollars you put down five
dollars worshipful we're partners that
certainly is an ideal example of ship
this but it's even enough of I'm the
ball bus and you're my guest and now the
two of us are at the same table or even
family members are together drinking
that is enough to drinking this wine
that is enough of a of a brothel off of
to make up time I'm native so that's
number one there are other people that
are with you and at least two people
together have drank the first n second
line number two is that you have
leftovers from the original bottle of
one number three is that the second wine
was not in front of you at the time of
the bread crack off at and number four
is that the second wine is equal or
better than the first one as long as
you've met all those conditions so let's
let's talk about firm soda the person
has wine on the table wine a certain
type of wine and they make up
a coffin and they drink and there's
drinking with other people at the table
and there is leftover then finish the
bottle yet and they bring out another
bottle of wine which is equal to or
better than the first bottle that case
you'd have a type of native because
again you've met the conditions there
are other people there the leftover wine
is still there it was brought out from
so I speak outside not it wasn't in this
room when you said the part track after
originally and finally it is that one
second wine is equal to or better than
than the first one that is the din of
about time I made now just as an aside
Donna why before we get to the next
issue of shitty vodka which really
doesn't only relate to wine it relates
to other food I'd like to just mention
what my reverie plus thats all used to
speak about our poem regarding to din of
advil yada he speak out to deceive us Oh
Betty what Rebecca luskey was held that
it didn't I believe that based on the
deceivers really is not an Indian of
drinking but rather it's the ability to
be back here to recognize is no
difference between hummin and mortar
high Gotham in our Avila Barbara had
both how about at work i served equal
purpose okay how can that be how fun was
this big russia and mark i was the sonic
the answer is is that because of home on
clients were all verizon to chuva
without him on of certain things that
the key with a capable of clients are we
accepting the tyra of coming together
too fast together and two together as
climbing stroll to offset the period to
offset the division one in control that
had taken place that was taking place at
that time foods room of fighter banana
muhammad said they're all over the
dispersed day their splintered they
don't get a lawn and the ants dunk to
that was clients all coming together and
then serving the rebuttal i live in such
a beautiful way so ultimately hum-1
serves as a catalyst that's one of the
reasons i'm honest is also it brings the
afters of Chloe's well so that was the
catalyst so if a person wrecking
is that on Porter they come to the Hat
Caro they come to the recognition of of
the little difference between our home
bar mark I not necessarily to an
alcoholic beverages but rather in
contemplating this in one's online that
is the greatest way to fulfill the Union
the Mitzvah up I w other than our humble
about Mordecai now the den is is the
person if they change of course it
changes locations under certain
conditions one is required to recite
another bro another bra and we have to
see these conditions under certain
conditions yes and other certain
conditions no it's known as shooting
mark I'm she needs to change Markham is
location for now let's assume that she
and market means you leave the building
and go somewhere else okay we're gonna
wheee going to touch of this at the end
but let's for simplicity in this case
certainly the sheen and Marco you're in
your own one a one important party or
one pursuit up and then you decide to
relocate to a different place to a
different location does one sign a noob
refurbish China or not and then is as
follows it depends on what you hate if a
person eats ha might see or busyness
except for rice shinasai Menon which
would include the various fruits which
pomegranates dates great etc or wine and
you made a cause ice in one location and
then you relocated that locker is one
does not require a new bra Commissioner
in that location so if a person drank
wine in this location and then they
change somewhere else and they didn't
ideally where for a person leaves their
first location ideally they should
really say Brock Ryder before they
change unless of course a person is
really going to many different places
but in general it's always a safer bet
unless it's maybe a couple houses down
and there's no reason you know in two
minutes you need the person is going to
get in a car and drive off somewhere
ideally make a bracha front here and
then make another run
another location simply because it's
very easy to forget what's happening but
if that change is happening immediately
then you know I'm meeting my person in a
few places or I'm going from Party to
party from a secret embassy but then
what brother is certainly enough where
you made one of those bras certainly
bidi a batalha is if a person change
location they didn't recite a bra right
in that original location certainly they
would not need to say any another
prophet now this is true ideally where
you had that me where you had come fun
when you made the original bra for
example what that means is if a person
is planning on being in two places for
the pursuit of their starting laughing
location any and they're going to locate
should be maybe they're beginning the
family in one location and then they
want to go to Abby's house or they want
to go to other popular they want
to go to so where the action is shall we
say or more action is then a lot is if
you may not might see ideally when you
made that I might see at the beginning
of the pseudo ideally you had that and
qivana for another location so you're
starting off in place a when you make I
might see you say you know i'm planning
on change locations during this time you
go to one location to the next location
you don't require another might see it's
covered by the first one in the last
location you'll either cause I nice of
bread and you will bench at that point
in the last location you want to do one
you make our Guffin here and you have
tossed in other places and then you go
to the other places and at the end
you'll drink or a at that point you'll
drink a sheer ideally review some wine
grape juice and you'll make a knowledge
a friend in that location you want to
eat cake in this location start here Go
Go different receivers and then delete
designs of cake have that's the
beginning you can't get to add or any
other designs except rice and then you
make an elephant that is the dinner of
sheena Malcolm again you start with a
science size of a golf ball in your
original location and then you work your
way all around town and your last
location you eat a sheer and you then
make a elevation that will cover all of
the different elevations now you cannot
have a too long of a break in time over
here if a person goes 72 minutes without
making a profit right now then that's
too long unless they're still full but
generally speaking if you go upsetting
two minutes and you're not full in fact
buy drinks we say it's a half hour look
at filo but be happy to have up until 72
minutes if you go more in 72 minutes and
you're not full you have lost your
opportunity to say brother frightened on
the original meal of your original when
you ate even if he more in that location
which you are able to do you still have
lost the ability to make a buck right
now unless you're still full so person
wants the you know what a delay too long
in this going around you want to eat as
you go around from Mussina intimacy but
now all of that is true by the by the
examples that we gave however if a
person ate hot dumb or r 8 except for
Shiva subpoena AHA called or they ate
rice those do not have a theist so to
speak when you make a shackle here
person ate chocolate they made chacal or
they had candy in one location or they
ate someone serve them chicken or meat
that meatballs and rice in this location
and then they leave this location they
need to make another brokerage China in
the next location and that's true if you
go you go around a black that's true you
go outside how lucky is that scene in
Makkah once you go outside you broken
the cheapness of the bra according to
some of you see that area is good enough
so perhaps your front porch certainly
will not be cheap Ibaka but if you go
out of your house and you've left the
premises now that constitution in Makkah
and you're going to need a new broccoli
shiner solve your at that Missy but you
all you drank was soda and then you
finish the soda and you went elsewhere
then now Walker is you will need another
shot
call in that location the truth is the
shitty buckle doesn't only apply to go
somewhere else in these cases it applies
even if I come back if a person is
eating alone you ate an apple you made a
fruit and you you're-you're eating of
meatballs and rice in the middle of
supper and let's say you're alone and
you say okay time for good tomorrow and
remit club I gotta run up so you run two
bit's up and now you've gone out of your
house for you know 25 minutes and then
you come back and finish your supper you
need another broad shine it you have to
make a shackle on is to make a design is
on the rice and to make a shackle on the
on the meatballs because that shooting
welcome you have changed your location
and when you change your location you
need another bra the exception to that
is if there's people who were still
present in other words you were eating
supper with other people that's the
husband and wife reading and the husband
runs out to dive and other runs not to
run some errand or something one of the
children need to be picked up or
whatever it might be they come back to
their supper table or to the middle
table someone else is still there that
is aqueous and that's good enough you
don't need another but right or if they
were eating the Zionists then again if
you were eating one of those otherwise
we're eating a brand meal and you left
and came back then you do not require
another prop writer so so excuse but you
don't need another broker you shinin in
that case so to sum it up when a person
goes from a sieve intimacy but the
question is it depends on what they ate
whether or not they need a broth up a
new Bravo Regina or not again ideally if
this time between besitos you should
just before you leave where you were you
should just make a brine up and then
you'll end up in another naseeba and you
make another profit machine it again
unless you going next door or you go on
around the block and you ain't designers
then just you know have in mind and it
covers all the cases but if you're gonna
be a time-lapse which very often there
is then just make a bracha friday in the
original location and then make another
brother who's china in the next location
however if you didn't do that or again
you're going from house to house of a
Miss Eva or boo then the dinners weren't
you made huh might see and you're going
from suda2 Sudha
and you're in the middle of that pork so
you have to bench every time because
you're in the middle of you of this suit
up then that what is you forget if you
made a might see where you made the site
is except rice uhm something and we
drank wine then you could have passed
originally you're starting at 3pm task
and then you know till 8pm you're going
from place to place the place then
you're with those items it's covered
under the original problem because
there's a crease however if you just
drank something besides why your
gracious or you had an apple in this
location and then you're going elsewhere
then you need a new bra harish I know
when you change your location if you
hate the Dumber something give you a
piece of potato kugel over here and you
hand out dumber and that's what you
ain't yet potato kugel soda yet a dama
or shackle and another size of the
pieces in the potatoes and you made a
shackle on a drink and now you go into a
different house you need another chacal
or hot DOMA in that location because
there's no fee so amazing in those cases
you may go braja it's covered your time
you see me make a right at the end if
it's the items of hot dama and in such a
call and rice and pasajes besides just a
minute then you would make in every
place that you are you would make
another Bravo up in that location now on
one other point is that even the kind of
that we said even the items that are
considered quiesce if you make a profit
we shina here it's covered in the other
places as we said cake I can a piece of
cake here making scientist I can go to
Tennessee busy ten pieces of cake my
original design is covered me as long as
there was not a lot likely time lapse of
other certain conditions and I wasn't
pissy if das which means i did not have
you know i didn't terminate my mind and
say I've done it covers all those cases
that's where I ate a cause ice in the
original location if a person just made
it busyness and took a little nibble of
a piece of cake and then they change
locations they would need another
designers in that other location you
gotta eat a cos I in this location in
order for that Bravo to work the
exception to that rule and what this
and is it a person is eating a meal
let's say and they were planning on
eating a meal um as they went in other
words certainly you traveled associated
welcome if you're in a car that's all
consider well welcome believe it if a
person may I might see at home this is
relevant let's say you're going on a
trip and you want to supper time you get
in the car you can eat the car you're
the rush to get to get going so you want
to wash in your house but you're not
really eating your bread until you get
to the car and you don't want to just
wash and go to the car you have to lock
up and then check on things then you
could in that case the price could say
contemporary bicep say you can make out
might see you eat a little bit of bread
in this location and then because you
know you're about to get into the car
it's all considered one big sweep and
now you go in the car and you could
continue eating even though you a lesson
cuz ice here you're not obligated to eat
a whole his eyes here if I know in one
minute I'm going to be in the car soon
as I lock off the door and check the
timers and check the lights and blend
and so on that's that's okay you could
make I'm like to eat a little bit and
then you could move you know lock up
everything and then go to the car and in
your suit that's not considered shooting
market in such a case so this really
covers the different areas of burn tech
often and how to deal with that type of
native and of course the after Brava of
wine and grape juice is an hour Geffen a
preg FN of course after sudah it is its
business of muslin which will certainly
cover any wine that was drunk in any
wine that was common during the course
of the meal finally what is she bucket
as we mention when you leave your
location that scheana maka when you're
in a room there's no shita maken you
could you can make a bracha shining here
and go to the other side of the room
without any Suffolk whatsoever without
any doubt you can even bench on the
other side of the room you don't have to
bench in the seat that you ate this is
very relevant the person seat someone
else took the seat or some other reason
why you can't stay there you know who
you're not obligated to go back to thats
it you could move to the other side of
the table to the other side of the room
if a person changes rooms this is shyla
whether or not it's considered she and
welcomed we hold that it's naturally
Malcolm when it comes to rockridge
shiner however will have heel a person
should have qivana that they're changing
rooms if you're eating
piece of cake here and you go to another
room let Syria to see boat where there
are many rooms and lot going on then you
can make designers here ideally have
that's for other rooms but the oven if
you did not have that you didn't have in
mind it works in any room so even even
buy drinks if you had a soda here in
Morocco and then you went to another
room where you had an apple in this room
he went to another room and yet another
Apple in the same building you don't
need a new property show the same would
apply the apartments in a particle if
you can make a bird rates on the 50th
floor and then you go to the 10th floor
and eat more fruit another Apple as long
as you did not terminate the Braha
original car bra that's okay in the same
building Sheena Malcolm is when you
change buildings when you rather when
you've left the building or even change
buildings that's considered cheating
welcome as a person's in a field if
you've seen that area there to pick me
for example and there's a picnic table
so then from one table to the next where
they see each other it's not a problem
if you were one picnic area and went to
the other side of the park that would be
considered cheating Makka even though
you even change rooms there are no rules
here but that Constitution welcome
because you really cannot see from place
a to place be that is the notion of
malcolm x then off work often and I
didn't of coffee break off and take our
native I'll take questions can we go
have some questions or ever have one of
them I think you just addressed does
change location mean also from the
basement of the first four right so we
would say that um you change locations
based on first floor and you never
require to make another proper wine and
provided you mean all the other
conditions a process it will be covered
by that original brought knife i want to
mention i fail to mention this that for
british a Muslim or a la mesilla the
lava is one should bench or Salem if you
in the original room that they resided
that properly shiner or unless they hate
the other rooms of just simply kissable
case yet i might see in this room you
went to a different room you should I
pension
room should come back to the original
route if you left this location you
should come back and you didn't need
anywhere else you should come back to
the original location to save us a
muslin Olivia or NFL pre heights however
if a person aim a shackle a Adama or
rice or high aids which is not just a
minim go up then you could make the burn
of fascist any way you like so if you if
you you made it here and go to the
basement you drink the brushes there
include to return to reach location you
left the building you drove away you can
make the very luscious there as well
it's not a problem only by how might see
design is except for rice should be some
in them and wine and grape juice one is
required to return so that's it that's
just another important case person made
a bright drag off in here in this room
and they went downstairs they wouldn't
have to come back here to make that like
a fan unless they drank downstairs
president Hollande enfant here and they
went from the semen to the sea without
drinking anything more they don't have
to go back to the original location to
make the elegant the rpi Kevin Cano and
if that's not possible think they will
make on all again for Kevin in that case
where they are for example persons in an
airport they have made up might see they
hit a meal right and now they the plane
is you know it was time to benj they
Borden or they forgot to benefit out of
the plane and they're on the plane and
the plane is already you know doors
close or if not close no one's going to
want to get off a plane or certainly the
plane took off then we would say better
to bench here they're not fetch at all
even though you can't return to visual
kitchen if you're collecting from house
to house would there be a brother Shane
of three hood well again it really
depends um okay we're talking about now
the din of shackles and laces and I'm
Thomas the kinds of Russian street is
what I did not need it the pipes can say
what a person leaves but the church a
regular case a person is leaving this
location and he figures you know he's
driving somewhere off and he's getting
some more over there sound brought
chance Rita to make of em brought her
here and a brought mashona they're the
reason isn't because people forget it's
not about chance trees i'm here now 20
minutes later I'm
somewhere else and then you're gonna go
somewhere else you can see you know you
go you can see other people strong legs
up until you get to eat is is difficult
is that you know you may not get to eat
as fast as you thought or humanity at
all so it's not much chance reason
people tend to forget when they leave
original location they very easily
forget to make a bra cup and therefore
ideally one should make a bra Cochran in
that original occasion however where
person is doing something where it's
known that they're going to eat for
example the person's invited to share
bras so their venture brothers but
natural all chefs invited to come for
dessert is very common the family makes
our office went they won't invite their
neighbors for dessert and prevention so
now you may not might see at home and
you're finishing your meal and at the
neighbors around the block you're going
to eat more so you don't have to bench
here and then wash again over there
because that's you're not going to
forget you go into a shower office and
they're serving you food ideally should
really eat bread in a second location if
you're going to pitch there um and now
you're not going to forget so same thing
with a perma see like we're going from
door to door people live in close
proximity to each other you're in you're
in that that area so now you're right
you made a cake cake cake here you know
you're going few houses down and you
plan on eating more then it would be an
option it's rica in such a case um
however if you if you go on a distance
of time and you're afraid that you might
forget then you should really make the
russia right here and certainly when
you're drinking beverages so it's you
anyway you can have to make a new boob
rakesh i know in the next half so
there's already termination in that case
so if you just drank water here if
you're drinking along the way and it's
like you're on the road so then it's one
profit counts the contemporary price
could say but if you just drank here and
you schmooze and you sang and so on now
you're getting up to go to the next
Missy but and now you know that's
cheating and welcome you get it in Lucia
Hackl in that location when you finally
get around to drinking better make a
brighter flushes here and that would you
decide to drink the next time we read
the eat a piece of kugel there you'll
make another bra if he eats I'm a picnic
table he wants to finish in his car do
you have to make another bro if the car
was visible
time we were from your picnic site again
it fits how might see and so on you
certainly don't need another Bravo but
if you just ate nan the items that are
you know the Damas and shackles etc then
if you saw your car then you would not
need another Bravo because we consider
it as one area but if it was the car was
somewhere else then you would require
another bra going back to affirmative
one person brings the Y for others to
drink but he paid for it not the other
people casual manner Pepe paying is not
an issue where the general notion of the
shark is a should fist which would want
to get what would like our case would
mean we both pay for it the pies can say
it's not the clutch additional should
fish that we know meaning session
but talks about shook them were partners
what's a partner how do I become a
partner our brothers who Yaran are they
partners right there all sorts of denim
of children you don't need the classic
question there's been short of here if I
have wine in my house and i'm the violin
I'm the older but I put it down in front
of everybody and you're my guests and I
say partake in this wine you are now
considered a short of of mine even
though legally the bottle is mine I have
the violin full owner of that bottle of
wine for example if you took the bottle
of walked out right i would say what are
you doing right that's my bottles well
you let us drink it most of all by the
same one second I didn't don't take it
home it's for our joint mijnheer at the
seuda right so obviously I'm the owner
in that case and I could stop somebody
from walking off with it I make the
conditions up you know let's drink right
let's drink so then the dinner is in
that case the fact you could drink is
enough that makes you a should've and
the fact you're drinking with me you
sort of speak become the Bible than
what's in your cup you're the owner so
to speak and and now we are you know we
are we are part owners together each of
us in that bottle of wine and therefore
that's good enough coming back to the
top mated why when is it is equal an
equal type of one you have to make a
second Brooklyn even if there is one
left from the first bottom so that's
that's the difference masalas what
you're touching on is a total of the
topic we're a person 80 let's say an
apple and you made a variance on an
apple and you now you want to eat an
orange
so there are all sorts of conditions
here do you need other broth or not so
pick it sir if the oranges in front of
you or you brought out or you had pass
on that orange it's good enough you
don't need another Bravo but the law
says the follows if it's a similar type
of item like two routes for example an
apple and an orange and now you're in
the middle of eating the Apple and then
you bring out the orange and you have
left over from that apples though you
don't need another part brags on the
orange it's covered by the Apple so
that's a good excellent question and
that's true by other prophets you would
not need another brother on the art and
so when it comes to hilton bar if you
have golf n in this case technically
else to dinner by track often if you had
one line and you still have leftovers
from that wine and you brought on a
different wine you would not need
another bra that's where cause I work
and we're recycling the special bra they
said in this case it's really it's not a
brother son n in here and it's not going
with the regular guidelines and gross on
that in the profits we make when we have
pleasure from from things but rather
it's a brothel on door it's praising a
college bar offal and that's actually
I've time I'm native is only resided
with other people the other untie my
maintenance as well all right except for
benching are only resided with other
people oh that's really going off on a
tangent but lamesa is a shaft flying dog
and therefore the conditions don't fit
in they gave a different kidhar
different guidelines then the regular
denim up your son and they're bringing
out more food and it's in this case
think they establish this special Bravo
can you judge the kashi vez of a wine
based on the price that's a good
question and I've researched this little
bit and look through the pie scoop and
the Dharam the guidelines of better or
not are are sometimes difficult to be
mobbed they're difficult to to establish
it would seem to be that if a blind is
of similar value from the other wine
then it would seem to be good enough
certainly the line cost more um the
question becomes and then I don't have
exact answers that sell it to this is we
call it turkey it if let's say the wine
costs more but you know I think it's
inferior people think it's inferior cost
more because of some other reason or it
costs less but it seems to be a better
wine so you have a you know is it is it
price is it is it taste is it my taste
is if the general taste you know suffice
it is to say that it generally goes by
if it's if it's generally considered
equal value and that's how people
consider it of equal or better in value
then that's good enough um and it's all
the involvement it tastes better regal
it's better in price or equal to you
know that's good enough for you have one
and not the other that gets a little bit
a little more difficult to establish and
again something profit of a person is in
a Suffolk you say okay I'm not way of
figuring out what's the story with this
wine is then they will not make a second
broth certainly you can take a poll of
who likes it better and you don't even
know if it's better when you're looking
at how you supposed to determine you
know is it better is it not better than
no way of making the determination um
you know something proper Huckle in that
case and you would not make a broth
right do not make a dinner later we have
some more questions if I'm ever ever yes
okay so we're going back to what you
talked about at the beginning when you
make kiddush in shul and then you come
home to eat the suit do you have to
drink wine before the seuda and say a
say about prayer Guffin again no and I
would say no but you will be a bar crack
golfing under the following circumstance
so the question is I heard kinases shoal
I was yet to concede sure to be executed
showed means that I heard or I recited
kiddush and then with all the conditions
whoever made kitna strength the right
shear or the shear was shared amongst
others kiddush was recited kid takuna
and i personally partook in a zoo de
asuna would be defined as either bread
or more common and a kiddush would be
commissioning a thought about types of
process items like cake would be the
classic example but crackers are good
even pasta salad would be good you don't
have to have a possible kisten linguine
salad as long as you any cosines would
be when turns to a suitor so I had
kiddush muffin suit up I heard Kennish
pity guna re making script Hakuna
proper manner and I hate my student now
I've been saying my feet of my
obligation of kish for the day I be next
as soon as shabbos the term Sudha here
means that my Sudha of cake facilitated
the bird priyanka fed took me to to work
it's facilitating the kiddush to be
considered a kiddush and now I had kids
from suit up and I'm going to go now I
come home and now the question is do I
have to make kids together you know of
course if there's people there very
often you'll come to home and your
guests or maybe your wife or one of the
children's and not your kiddush so
certainly you going to make it is for
them will then third they will make that
person will recite kids up for
themselves that's that's certainly the
case but let's say no one needs to your
condition some people are not eat during
the day they'll come on make cash
anyways nothing wrong with that because
you're just reciting an additional burn
crack Afeni soaked in sake Emma Thompson
can check okay there's nothing wrong
with that of course at night you can
only make kiddush once if everyone at
the tables been doing some kid is
already you do not have the ability to
be it to make it a second time but back
to back to Chavez Day which is the more
common case you per everyone's heard kid
it's already and you do not need kiddush
again or again someone said kids but you
didn't hear kinoshita you'll hurt in
shul you made your holla holla Geffen
and now you come home so many kids but
you didn't even you didn't partake in
the line you didn't need to protect the
wine because you already are kiddush so
you know your your kid is shooting
concentrated kiddush and you need more
boats point you to drink enough from the
kitchen did you get anything from the
kitchen now let's make this case simple
you don't make kiddush now during the
meal you need one you wanted your wine
that Lawson is you would make a birth
track often the fact that you make
kiddush in shul well it's surely you may
not like effing already so the kiddush
of shul does not help you anymore and
home and therefore you would now wash
and you up you would have to make a new
part track often during the course of
the meal same is true if you came over
much go a minute you make kiddush you
trying to wine you had your suitor
whether it was by might see or it was
cake or whatever it might be crackers so
on and now you would it's it's you know
1930 ten o'clock now you said learn for
a couple hours twelve o'clock you eat
your lunch again you don't have to make
kiddush everyone our kid is ready now
you make hot Mike seate and then see the
Commission up and now you want to drink
wine or grape juice you would need to
make a coffin that morning break pro
golfer did not help for now and to make
I tag my mates if you think two lines at
this point you would have even have one
wine and now if you bring out a second
one under all the conditions that we
said earlier one would resign a times
I've made it if you meet those
conditions okay thank you very much or
just which everyone and friends
important and again remembering the
words of the Sivas upward of the current
pouring is the spiritual growth the
roughness ticket growth that we have in
our celebration of the salvation of
clients role and our ongoing recognition
through bunnell i love the barrio
eloquence by remaining asylum a coach
barbara created the world and continues
to run the world even though it's by
stars punit that's one of the reasons
it's called villas ester is a cinnamon
of course parfum does things by stars
part about start spawning behind the
scenes and that was off the entire story
of Purim which every year we remember
here twice when we hear the megillah and
we celebrate that goddess of closure all
that we as the amended part of the
rapunzel oil recognized a car who's here
at even in the period of the gulls that
were in the law and bitter khalas of my
stars punim of hidden behind macys
Minotaur rocket mates has been African
looking in through the crack second part
was always there to take care of the
beloved nation of our nation hi sir
thank you very much thank you better and
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