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Boiling Over How to Do Hagolo Ben Yomo
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Ki Heim Chayeinu has teamed up with STAR-K to produce a series of videos exploring the practical halachos derived from the sugya of Hagalas Keilim, discussed in Pesachim, Daf Lamed.
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in today's episode of ben yomo
we're going to talk about casual with
hagola immersion in boiling water
when you have utensils that were used
not in an oven through dry heat but in a
pot
or on a serving plate they're cashard
with hagala
hagala is the cabola cacholte for
wet cooking the way it was absorbed
that's how it's purged
so if i want to cash it with hagola if
it's my flatware
or my kiddush cup or a pot capturing
those things the first requirement
in order to make something ready for
capturing is we have to determine
whether it's a casual material
in general the most common cache of
material that we're going to capture in
our kitchens
is metal turret tells us that metal
stone and bone are catchable materials
earthenware ceramic porcelain
things made out of basically coming from
dirt are not possible
because the bleos cannot be taken out
with the process of hagala synthetic
materials that were not around at the
time of hazal like plastic
is controversial whether they can be
captured or not some posts can hold that
they can some posts can say that you
can't get the blios out of those types
of materials
once we know that the material that
we're capturing is casual
the first step is to make sure that it's
clean hagala requires cleanliness
because the water purges the non-kosher
but if the non-kosher stays there
then the water didn't do anything in
addition something like
rust or a deep crevice where we can't
guarantee there isn't non-kosher
somewhere hiding inside or humid stick
can't be cautioned through hagola those
areas should be gone over
very carefully with a small torch in
order to
affect liben on those spaces you could
put it in the oven
at 500 degrees for 45 minutes you're
going to need to burn up everything
on that kaylee in order to make it
kosher the next thing you have to make
sure is that the caylee is in ano
banyomo that means it hasn't been used
with hot for 24 hours when we
purge by hagala the non-kosher out of
achilles
we don't want that non-kosher to go
right back into the kali and make the
keli non-kosher again
by waiting 24 hours and the caylee is in
anabanyomo
we guarantee that when the non-kosher
hummus is removed it doesn't get
reabsorbed into the cayley and make it
non-kosher or homicide
the next step is to determine what kind
of pot should be used for caution
the type of pot to use ideally should be
the same pot that you're trying to
castrate to so for example if you're
trying to kosher from milk clicks to
fillet chicks you should use a flay
chick pot if you're trying to caution
from flagships to milks you should use a
milk pot
if you're trying to cause it from trey
to kosher you should use a kosher pot if
you're trying to kosher from hummus to
pesach you should use a pastic pot
however if that is not available you can
really use any pot that is an inubinomo
that has not been used for anything hot
for the past 24 hours
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practically how do we do hagala number
one you need a pot of boiling water
any type of metal utensil can be
considered with this method
the first thing that's important to know
is that it has to be clean without any
specs pieces of dirt especially in your
forks in between you want to make sure
it is completely cleaned you have to
make sure that when you're going to be
anywhere near anything hot or dangerous
you want to make sure you're well
protected
apron gloves these are very easy to get
amazon home depot
target walmart all sell all these items
very inexpensive very important
and encourage all of you to get some of
them before you try this at home take
the items one by one and place them into
the pot of boiling water
let them sit inside for a few seconds
and then remove them
easiest way to remove them is use the
tans
after you remove the utensils from the
pot you want to dip them immediately
either inside a pot or a bucket of cold
water or you can rinse them in a faucet
under cold water when one finishes the
hakala process
the minute is to rinse off the clay
using cold water
and the reason for this is that's in the
base of big dutch this was done when
they actually cautioned their caleb
so it's a it's a meaning that comes from
koshering in the in the basement big
dash
furthermore there's an indian of here
you have
the water which has come off which used
to consider
it's almost viewed as not kosher water
now lamisa that water is really not tray
but since it took in the bleus of the
tray for item the meaning is to rinse it
off but he haven't if a person forgot
to rinse to clean with cold water but he
have it certainly it's not a problem
following hagola if you did not rinse it
off the clay is still 100 caution
the boiling water will not damage the
silver one thing you want to be careful
about though is that the cavity of the
backer has to be filled completely with
water and make sure there's no air
pockets in so you want to make sure you
drop it in
on an angle this way
and let it sink to the bottom many
people think when you're doing a hagala
on an item it has to be
dipped in all at the same time that is
not in fact the case
as long as entire item is touched with
hot water inside the pot it is okay
so if you want to do it in pieces it's
fine as well so if you want to dip half
the item into the pot like this
and then remove it and dip the other
half of the item into the pot like that
that is perfectly acceptable and this
item has now been completely cartered
if you're in a place where they don't
have gas available or a stovetop
available this is a very convenient pot
available on amazon many stores sell it
it's an electric pot
you can put it up like this boil water
and you could do a hagala on the same
exact same method inside now this is a
little bit smaller they don't
necessarily make these pots so big
that's why we spoke about before knowing
how to dip half a clay and then a half
of clean
when you put a series of calym
into a pot of boiling water you could
cool off the boil
and sometimes you need to wait in
between things that you put into the
pots
to make sure that the water heats back
up how do you cash your pot that doesn't
fit inside another pot
boiling the pot when it's full is the
beginning
you've captured all areas that the water
has come in contact with
but what about the lip shock talks about
throwing a hot rock in it to get it to
overflow
again you know we have much more stable
sources of fuel
better pots to con to conduct so if we
want to overflow it
we have boiling water the safe way to
overflow it might be to
put another pot in or to displace water
with my glove
and push it over the side but in the
times of the gemara where
when the times of the gemara where it
wasn't so easy to heat up a pot and it
wasn't so easy to move
water and it wasn't so easy to maintain
this is how they did it
let me stand back
and now we've cautioned the pot if you
don't have a heat resistant rubber suit
to protect yourself and your entire
family
you may want to consider an alternative
way to overflow boiling water
over the lip of your pot one method is
if the pot's a good pot
and can handle the oven which some
people have if it's a completely metal
and it's a sturdy pot
easiest thing is to put it in the oven
for 40 minutes
and do the higher level of koshering
which is lee boon cow which is at 550
for 40 minutes in the oven one of the
easiest ways to do it if you need to do
it that way
is simply to heat up the grate that you
have on top of an oven
get it nice and hot pick it up with one
of the tongs everybody has tongs at home
and lift it and throw it in and that
will displace water and make it go over
the top
another practical way to reliably
overflow
the boiling water in hagala pot is to
take a smaller pot and heat it up
with a small amount of water until it's
boiling when both pots are boiling
you could take the smaller pot and
depress it into the larger pot
to displace water that is still boiling
over the sides without
cooling off the water in the pot below
the level
of
so this is a tricky situation because
if you cook water on the second floor of
your house
the um boiling point is less than is on
the first floor
on the first floor so if you bait a tray
for the first floor and you want to
crush it on the second floor
the royce screen will not get to the
same temperature that it does on the
first floor
so the um however
it seems in the post game it doesn't
matter
that once it's boiling it doesn't matter
what temperature it is
as a matter of fact the boiling point
has to do
with the air pressure and air pressure
changes all the time from day to day and
some places from an hour to hour so the
it's impossible to get the same
temperature
uh that we would know about it once it's
rice cream
it is finished it's enough so so that
means
that if you um that you can
cash a if you use it on the first floor
you want to crash on the second floor
even it's going to be less
as long as it's right it is no problem
when does it rise slim
when you see bubbles come up they don't
have to be
real strong bubbles um and if you
have a big pot yeshiva pot and you
cook it up with water it come
the little bubbles come up that's also
considered ricegum
they don't have to be a kazias or a
cabella
these bottles
normally when you do hagala um it has to
so you're putting it this thing you want
to caution
has to be in the water long enough that
the heat of the water would penetrate
the walls of the clay and it's
especially
important to know that if you the good
parts
have a thick bottom in order that when
you put the heat on it should
distribute the heat evenly over the
whole barn of the pond
so it may be a quarter of an inch thick
the bottom
so it's you have to leave it along in
there long enough that the heat of the
of the water which is usually boiling so
212.
number one it should be get back to
boiling
if you often when you put in if you put
a spatula but more than one thing
it cools off the water you have to leave
it in until it gets back to boiling but
even after it gets back to boiling has
to be there long enough
for the heat to penetrate at boiling
temperature through
the whole wall of the clay or the bottom
of the clay
whichever takes longer which i am
ashamed that if you have these thick
pots
with the thick bottoms you might have to
wait
no longer than 15 seconds
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