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Boiling Over How to Do Hagolo Ben Yomo

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[Music] in today's episode of ben yomo we're going to talk about casual with hagola immersion in boiling water when you have utensils that were used not in an oven through dry heat but in a pot or on a serving plate they're cashard with hagala hagala is the cabola cacholte for wet cooking the way it was absorbed that's how it's purged so if i want to cash it with hagola if it's my flatware or my kiddush cup or a pot capturing those things the first requirement in order to make something ready for capturing is we have to determine whether it's a casual material in general the most common cache of material that we're going to capture in our kitchens is metal turret tells us that metal stone and bone are catchable materials earthenware ceramic porcelain things made out of basically coming from dirt are not possible because the bleos cannot be taken out with the process of hagala synthetic materials that were not around at the time of hazal like plastic is controversial whether they can be captured or not some posts can hold that they can some posts can say that you can't get the blios out of those types of materials once we know that the material that we're capturing is casual the first step is to make sure that it's clean hagala requires cleanliness because the water purges the non-kosher but if the non-kosher stays there then the water didn't do anything in addition something like rust or a deep crevice where we can't guarantee there isn't non-kosher somewhere hiding inside or humid stick can't be cautioned through hagola those areas should be gone over very carefully with a small torch in order to affect liben on those spaces you could put it in the oven at 500 degrees for 45 minutes you're going to need to burn up everything on that kaylee in order to make it kosher the next thing you have to make sure is that the caylee is in ano banyomo that means it hasn't been used with hot for 24 hours when we purge by hagala the non-kosher out of achilles we don't want that non-kosher to go right back into the kali and make the keli non-kosher again by waiting 24 hours and the caylee is in anabanyomo we guarantee that when the non-kosher hummus is removed it doesn't get reabsorbed into the cayley and make it non-kosher or homicide the next step is to determine what kind of pot should be used for caution the type of pot to use ideally should be the same pot that you're trying to castrate to so for example if you're trying to kosher from milk clicks to fillet chicks you should use a flay chick pot if you're trying to caution from flagships to milks you should use a milk pot if you're trying to cause it from trey to kosher you should use a kosher pot if you're trying to kosher from hummus to pesach you should use a pastic pot however if that is not available you can really use any pot that is an inubinomo that has not been used for anything hot for the past 24 hours [Music] practically how do we do hagala number one you need a pot of boiling water any type of metal utensil can be considered with this method the first thing that's important to know is that it has to be clean without any specs pieces of dirt especially in your forks in between you want to make sure it is completely cleaned you have to make sure that when you're going to be anywhere near anything hot or dangerous you want to make sure you're well protected apron gloves these are very easy to get amazon home depot target walmart all sell all these items very inexpensive very important and encourage all of you to get some of them before you try this at home take the items one by one and place them into the pot of boiling water let them sit inside for a few seconds and then remove them easiest way to remove them is use the tans after you remove the utensils from the pot you want to dip them immediately either inside a pot or a bucket of cold water or you can rinse them in a faucet under cold water when one finishes the hakala process the minute is to rinse off the clay using cold water and the reason for this is that's in the base of big dutch this was done when they actually cautioned their caleb so it's a it's a meaning that comes from koshering in the in the basement big dash furthermore there's an indian of here you have the water which has come off which used to consider it's almost viewed as not kosher water now lamisa that water is really not tray but since it took in the bleus of the tray for item the meaning is to rinse it off but he haven't if a person forgot to rinse to clean with cold water but he have it certainly it's not a problem following hagola if you did not rinse it off the clay is still 100 caution the boiling water will not damage the silver one thing you want to be careful about though is that the cavity of the backer has to be filled completely with water and make sure there's no air pockets in so you want to make sure you drop it in on an angle this way and let it sink to the bottom many people think when you're doing a hagala on an item it has to be dipped in all at the same time that is not in fact the case as long as entire item is touched with hot water inside the pot it is okay so if you want to do it in pieces it's fine as well so if you want to dip half the item into the pot like this and then remove it and dip the other half of the item into the pot like that that is perfectly acceptable and this item has now been completely cartered if you're in a place where they don't have gas available or a stovetop available this is a very convenient pot available on amazon many stores sell it it's an electric pot you can put it up like this boil water and you could do a hagala on the same exact same method inside now this is a little bit smaller they don't necessarily make these pots so big that's why we spoke about before knowing how to dip half a clay and then a half of clean when you put a series of calym into a pot of boiling water you could cool off the boil and sometimes you need to wait in between things that you put into the pots to make sure that the water heats back up how do you cash your pot that doesn't fit inside another pot boiling the pot when it's full is the beginning you've captured all areas that the water has come in contact with but what about the lip shock talks about throwing a hot rock in it to get it to overflow again you know we have much more stable sources of fuel better pots to con to conduct so if we want to overflow it we have boiling water the safe way to overflow it might be to put another pot in or to displace water with my glove and push it over the side but in the times of the gemara where when the times of the gemara where it wasn't so easy to heat up a pot and it wasn't so easy to move water and it wasn't so easy to maintain this is how they did it let me stand back and now we've cautioned the pot if you don't have a heat resistant rubber suit to protect yourself and your entire family you may want to consider an alternative way to overflow boiling water over the lip of your pot one method is if the pot's a good pot and can handle the oven which some people have if it's a completely metal and it's a sturdy pot easiest thing is to put it in the oven for 40 minutes and do the higher level of koshering which is lee boon cow which is at 550 for 40 minutes in the oven one of the easiest ways to do it if you need to do it that way is simply to heat up the grate that you have on top of an oven get it nice and hot pick it up with one of the tongs everybody has tongs at home and lift it and throw it in and that will displace water and make it go over the top another practical way to reliably overflow the boiling water in hagala pot is to take a smaller pot and heat it up with a small amount of water until it's boiling when both pots are boiling you could take the smaller pot and depress it into the larger pot to displace water that is still boiling over the sides without cooling off the water in the pot below the level of so this is a tricky situation because if you cook water on the second floor of your house the um boiling point is less than is on the first floor on the first floor so if you bait a tray for the first floor and you want to crush it on the second floor the royce screen will not get to the same temperature that it does on the first floor so the um however it seems in the post game it doesn't matter that once it's boiling it doesn't matter what temperature it is as a matter of fact the boiling point has to do with the air pressure and air pressure changes all the time from day to day and some places from an hour to hour so the it's impossible to get the same temperature uh that we would know about it once it's rice cream it is finished it's enough so so that means that if you um that you can cash a if you use it on the first floor you want to crash on the second floor even it's going to be less as long as it's right it is no problem when does it rise slim when you see bubbles come up they don't have to be real strong bubbles um and if you have a big pot yeshiva pot and you cook it up with water it come the little bubbles come up that's also considered ricegum they don't have to be a kazias or a cabella these bottles normally when you do hagala um it has to so you're putting it this thing you want to caution has to be in the water long enough that the heat of the water would penetrate the walls of the clay and it's especially important to know that if you the good parts have a thick bottom in order that when you put the heat on it should distribute the heat evenly over the whole barn of the pond so it may be a quarter of an inch thick the bottom so it's you have to leave it along in there long enough that the heat of the of the water which is usually boiling so 212. number one it should be get back to boiling if you often when you put in if you put a spatula but more than one thing it cools off the water you have to leave it in until it gets back to boiling but even after it gets back to boiling has to be there long enough for the heat to penetrate at boiling temperature through the whole wall of the clay or the bottom of the clay whichever takes longer which i am ashamed that if you have these thick pots with the thick bottoms you might have to wait no longer than 15 seconds you