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05-29-2019 Annual Kosher Travel Edition

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hello welcome to star kids monthly webinar we're here in the star care headquarters in Baltimore Maryland I'm Mitzi Goldberg your host to my right to drive a bar buyer thank you for joining us again and to my left is rubbish Sean Taylor thank you for coming to attend with pleasure this is our annual discussion of travel issues when a Jew travels it's like no other person in the world because so many issues Cassius and governing and Shabbos and all the things that go into it if you want to call in if you're this somehow the sound isn't perfect you can call it to one eight eight nine five one two zero three Pascoe 2020 and these these are our so webinars are archived at our website star - Kor G I just want to make sure that if a couple people could chat with us on the bottom left of your screen just to make sure that the sound is coming out and we know that we are getting out there mmm I want to give a plug to our summer seminars cos your seminars Robert and let myself run a pair of cops for seminars in the end of July in the beginning of August me information is on our on our homepage we have two seminars one is more dedicated to learning about factories and generally about conscious about being much yeah many different areas and let me tell the runner Minar about being a much gift how do you want to be a much gift and the restaurant would be much given and the caterer and so on they're very well received and if you know anybody who might be interested you can direct them to our sign up page you know sometimes probably everybody you've been on our show enough times right we get sometimes somebody will email me afterwards and say you went from different topics like you jump from topic to topic can you just have you know one topics I can focus and I explain to them there's on the internet and in life there's so many shearing out there well you can just go here one topic you know for 45 minutes or an hour that's not the purpose of this it's more freewheeling back and forth and you take questions what's that we try to answer the questions that come on to resting as it were to try we try so we apologize if it's not you know I keep it simple you know one directional but we try to cover a lot of areas and try to make it try to make it interesting let's open with the questions okay I see everybody can hear us we got a couple of questions by email and we'll give them president but our preference okay we've got a number of questions shoot okay this is a loaded question when traveling to another city where there are several resident ed sheeran what guidelines should we use to determine if a Heckscher is reliable so you're traveling somewhere else where you're not used to and how do you know whether or not that you know in your town you know they're sharing I think that's how you decide yes I mean we do get this question a lot don't say you're going to town you don't know you can call us we try to help people we don't publicize information we don't embarrass anybody but if a person calls us about another town we will give them one hour tell them what our opinion is write it we try right and it's also preferable than they should do a little research before they get to the town trip so that you don't wait until your kids are starving they forced into a situation where you buy just cookies from the local supermarket or you can do they closed on the road right just buy cookies and roll bar isms okay sure this weekend I give us a lot and also that I always and tell the people I always tell the people first of all I even have a choice in the matter alright you're calling asking a question it's very nice but if you end up going to some relatives house and this is the food they're gonna be serving so you're not really gonna be left with a choice so you know why should we get into the discussion about something we you're not gonna have a choice anyways that's the first step second step might tell people is very simple you know we don't necessarily know everything but every other hex right out there call the restaurant or facility and speak too much data and just see you get the feeling that knows what he's talking about well that's hard for a person who's not involved in conscious it's very simple a few very simple questions you can ask number one you can ask them are you whose Ashcroft are you under especially there's multiple chairmen town sometimes you get funny answers oh yeah we just switched yesterday funny answers second of all you ask to speak too much fear to ask them that question I'm Phil enacting Michigan if I had that wonderful enacting Michigan menu leader manager whoever was not I set up I speak to the real my skin so you see if he's there you see who's that straw feather on there then you ask him just very simple questions first of all who those rare vegetable checking even if you're not gonna eat this cell all right is everything in your restaurant y'all Shannon passed his child even if you don't care about it you wanna see if he knows the answer any mosquito can any restaurant should know the answer to these basic questions I mean even asking about the shmita and just go through those basic questions and you get a feel that you see if the guy knows what he's talking about you know I myself I think the reason I'm here is I do end up traveling a little bit involved in the vegetable industry so I know you live on the plane I just want the time before you go into that so if you're in a small town though many times I've found at least that there are also you know gossip requirements or realities are different in restaurants many times you don't have an on site much gift in a lot of these out-of-town restaurants there isn't enough you might have a rope English yeah resources right in a small town small tonight the question was versus multiple of us usually that means okay then the ready unit bigger than 0 town but you're right in the smaller town you're not just looking how much gives media and I've been in smaller towns where the local upon them are very much on top of the caches as much as they could be and you know what for that town it's certainly but it's not the standard that the person well again you can make your own educated decision speaks to this person second question which is if a heckler is reliable for an item on the shelf in the grocery store would it be okay to rely on that extra for a restaurant I think the answer is resounding no necessarily totally right we actually make that distinction a lot of times that a factory that's producing you set it up you have the guidelines you can you can basically set it up the way you want a restaurant you're dealing with all these other factors right Esther is a totally different okay that's one one one question we have another one here do you have an updated with an underlying updated list of reliable has chairing for meals on international airlines because we do have wise why they help writing that because we do have an article from years ago we had talking about the about the flight so what are you beating on the flags in the tummy okay no it was done many years ago and very difficult to keep updated because information changes shared change the caterers change and it's like a full-time job to it's not about your line you're stuck your any Airport can get from any different caterer and you say oh you're gonna end up you can get wrinkled meals if you fly one set if I repose you on TWA right first Latino but it doesn't exist anymore and and you know and that caterer maybe does it doesn't exist and they sold out and they also they got four article talks about what meals you get on Continental standards like you said from from New York City from JFK right no series or certain standards the Elgin are you gonna get or from Israel there are certain standards that you know you can deal with its when you're flying 99% of the questions are coming from your floor when you're flying and the cashews in Europe it sometimes depends which city will stop over sitting that year that way I mean that's the way it works right so in answer to that questions we do not have an updated contact us before your trip you might be able to run our information usually then isn't Lee based on you know if it's postman is minam so we can find that from the bottom okay which meal was Sunday or a box-boy you know last week or you know went through Poland or Moscow or Brussels or any other suitable your Istanbul okay so I mean that's a fair question and we did the research Syria drumming rosin actually did the reason serious research years ago it's 2007 okay so it's been changed a lot okay another question we got also about Airlines what is a reliable source of Zaman and for dobbing on the plane to figure out the proper times for dominance my Supriya schmoes my fila Oh a shocker any websites recommended so that I actually have the answer to there are two websites we can recommend one is called high cables can you type that out Chapman high cables CH AI ta BL es calm and also my's Magnum so it's air mines man and calm so those two are reckoned they actually working a little bit two different ways I think the side cables gives you what's supposed to be based on the route of your flight then mais madame takes the last five or ten actual flights and they figure out what the way to fly - I'm going to save goes more northmoor's you know it depends on how they actually fly they tracking they configure there's easy to track lines you take a fly you pull them from another side they pull it in their sights and wrapped each flight and they pull it in and then they give you this Magnum an average of the way it was a banana changes all the time it's only gonna be it's gonna be a close close guess at best you know better than a guess but it's not gonna be exact you know for example United just stopped flying to Mumbai the only flying to New Delhi because the winds changed and it's too much there's too much there's too much headwind getting all the way to Mumbai they can't fly that far anymore it's only fly to New Delhi so this is like for like these kinds of things may be different so you know they change much not much like day by day a lot of times I want to I want to recommend to look at for this question particularly look at rabbi members article on Zaman in on what heaven is dark area from the starcade but you haven't you put up the link to his article and it's it's really that article together with these with this information can can guide you because like you said it's not exact nothing is exact so you need to know like sort of get that idea behind it and then go go go look at the tables that you have like trying to figure out wonder that my roof this time the ear like you guys are like Sweden or something well it's very it's like old day it's little day right yeah and most have many webinars about that topic remember that uh ever told the story but last year's annual travel women I was with Rabbi ever so he told the story about the rabbi he was trying to figure out if he can davon Myra's and he looked out the plane window and he saw the moon figured out it moves up I can down the matter and they need any Dom in Mars and then he realized something was not right and he has the stewardess said she said that's not the move that's the son because in on the Dreamliner they shave with us they make it like dark so you can be more comfortable so there's a really visit tense what's that the window just tense on a minute okay so she says so so also a trivia that he mentioned what's the longest flight that you can not dive in on the plane and döblin with a minion on each side what's what's the longest you can go between between and youngnam that you dive in with a minion on the ground so it's gonna be too long it's gonna be gonna have to dive down the plane if you take the the midnight or a little bit after midnight flight on United from area to swirl to San Francisco so it leaves you can domino say in the winter six o'clock at night you Dobbin in my opinion the neutral line at six o'clock moderate and then six hours later you get on the flight you travel for 1415 hours you'll and I think five to six o'clock in the morning and then you go there with nine o'clock menuing you know you know you spend almost like you were able to dive with the mini on both sides the world there's a break of like 20 hours in between okay let's see if through any questions here that are [Music] we can talk about traveling and there it is wrong with with with hodgkin's in there to soil not yeah this really is asking a really difficult topic I mean you would think that Chicago the narrative so would be easier because it's a Jewish state it's actually more complicated Rebbe Rosen wants made a very good point that on a base level it's better because almost everything is culture undergrad one note so the so most people not eating eating great trip and it doesn't help the person who wants to eat the level of kasra cities used to thank you true some items lying it was a lack of you have so many other ones meet them it's complicated we don't really have time to get in there and that but what I invite you to call the office at 4 1 0 44 4 1 1 0 with that question or any other questions that you have right now someone wants to know which countries can we use demotious call of health or in other words that that's a good question of moshe has a head do that in countries that have a rule of law that you can if you don't need call me soil particularly you can rely on the government that the milk is acceptable it's called a stump that doesn't apply in every country in the world so what your countries is my with a venezuelan out so Syria if you want to Syria not a lie you know Iran also I know an Iran if I don't look you know pigs too often they're the true question no camels in stable because actually actually is a big commodity now can what was there a mystical Mexico not lets go obviously not a code we do there's a lot of research amongst agencies amongst different countries in the world about this was not a few years ago it has to me it has to be a law in the books but it has to also be enforced so you could have along the books but if it's worth twenty dollars under the table and you get around the law cuz I just like that in certain parts of the world so that didn't really so let's say generally speaking again Western Europe nice country is forget what some of the France Germany Italy Italy Poland Poland Finland Poland Switzerland I'm sure there yeah that would all be okay the United States and Canada obviously right and after that it really gets iffy it really gives if you you know there's some countries here some countries now in South American some countries are better than others but still it seems the consensus is that outside of Western Europe it'll really Australia's fine I believe okay so unless you have a particular normal unless you have a particular question about the country I mean basically those are those are the guidelines that we would we would use yeah okay South Africa or Ireland how would you know South Africa a little bit more questionable there because the girls really look it up we have nearly we should talk to you you would want to talk to them yes mother baiz them but they didn't South Africa which are very liable in Johannesburg you can call people in Ireland but you can certainly call people in London that they have Sharon Inglewood no Bernard would know viral and the president your highness from Cape Town would know about South Africa then wants to know if you can mention a list of questions to ask in another town much give to help make a decision so I think we should it's not bad and they mention the gym but I'm saying can we put it down in writing like the questions to ask if you email us we we try we try to do that okay um there's one okay well it's long we're talking about the airplane let's keep keep keep talking about airplanes and food we have some other things to discuss where do we get food when you're travelling in the airports so star Kenny has the the fresco meals of sandwiches fresco that's even where new airports Newark JFK LaGuardia right well sometimes involves Austin Washington really used to be once in a while and also there Penn Station both Newark and New York City of Penn Station so they're sealed sealed package meals you have to look for the starcade where do they sell them like in any other nice stores SIBO Express in Newark Airport SIBO CIB no Express which happens to be like one of these like interesting chair Joe's style right of course stores they sell a lot of very interesting items that a lot of that stuff is on them you finally nowadays in the airports in these places you find a lot of them have have like Chobani yogurt gotta stuff Holly's felt okay you're talking about things that you can get any right only your personally they're gonna have we're talking about a saffron this sound real things were real food than candy bars where the homeless em pretzel is that from Sabra with are available everywhere you get those also in Toronto they have under the COR around international departures a national archers have cor certified food otherwise you're stuck with you know the granola bars potato chips so we were discussing before that you you could you kid you can order now with ubereats use your app to order food if you're in the area that has a kosher restaurant that signed up with uber has anyone ever done that sure have you done that I've never done it myself in all restaurants used or - will be eats and what's the other one GrubHub all these things you can then they'll deliver it they can deliver to an airport they're not going to come through the security ticket with you but how does that work it's going after you to let you choose the restaurant you want you choose the menu which is uploaded to their app you want to go let's see mama Leia's Pizza well here are can eat them outside definitely do not sign in the airport is that before you got something right before you go to security need one more than your food and make sure I'm like like let's stop over this farm and walk onto the plane if they forgot your first class meal a complaint to the airline don't call robbed of a mile level so they we also want to mention that you should make sure that the meals come properly sealed it might even be be advisable to put it you can put into the app instructions to the restaurant like please make sure my meal comes well you should know that one of the rules of these apps is because they don't want to have they want to limit their liability and you get the wrong order they have to see all the food items for example if you order three hamburgers from Dougie's over here also does it they have to open the bag and look inside and see three hamburgers there so you say the GrubHub drivers uber driver or they have to verify that so traditionally the way our restaurants do is they'll sue the bag with two seals they can't do that when it's going to one of these orders so what they do instead is they double seal each individual item that's what they do but you have to make sure that it was done properly when you get your food you should be aware that the bag is not going to be able to be sealed but the food should be sealed with two seal you mean the other other bags not gonna be able I wonder how I wonder how many kosher restaurants around the country know to do that though that this what I'm saying you know are are places I can escape our place Israel that's what they have to do we somebody told me there's an idea that if you have let's say there's no overeats which is a special app or your restaurant doesn't do Cooper eats you can have a regular booboo driver when you put down the origin is you're a restaurant and the destination is you and you you call the uber driver while he's on the way and thinking he's going to pick up a person you tell me not picking up a person you're picking up my food at the restaurant and please bring it to me so instead of delivering a person he's delivering the food and apparently this bill does with some success I was in a car recently and I asked the driver if he would be willing to do that and he said no he wouldn't do it I said why not what's the difference if you're moving a person you're moving for you get the same amount of money so he said he's worried about liability he's not sure that like if someone needs to food and he gets sick is he covered or if if it gets to an accident he's not I'm part of the app it doesn't have like that mind like a liability insurance money insurance laws about it and he's not sure how it works and doesn't want take a chance that's what he told me but look I'm sure there obviously there are those that are doing it to question it do you want to take a chance every driver why not what's the difference then the bag will be sealed and ability sealed so yeah why would I worry about we also did one discuss of what if you go overseas like on your trips there Chum how do you take food with you take food with me are you probably speaking a vacuum packed meats and all the kinds of prepackaged shelf-stable meals that they saw in the supermarket or various companies varying degree of tastes I'll give you that again you're traveling so you don't have you know I don't take tune I don't go overseas like to the Far East Russia I've never had to been there I've been to you know you're a parasternal South America but different places like that well you went to Turkey right some of the two-degree them Turkey so I actually brought a bunch of racks with me and packaged deli how do they keep it fresh so first of all you can find frozen before I left so it stayed frozen up a little while and then when I got the hotel I put in the hotel freezer now I have a spoiled luxury that I will I travel in my bag with a roller coaster tape because this way I get to hotel muscari to what's going has the starcade symbol on it and that is used to seal up all the food that you get from GrubHub or door - is still the start if it's from a story restaurant I keep one of those in my bag you also rise to have it s good to have it paid for it but I got person to have it and I get to tell if they don't have a refrigerator in the room which many of them don't especially the you know depending on what kind of hotel is on it and on especially in foreign countries you have to put it in the all used it put it in refrigerator for you in the kitchen or something then you have to seal the food yourself especially if you're reusing the food throughout the trip so I keep a role coach daven this or I could reseal it and give it even without a person could do that without sign-in so if you want to hotel and they don't have a fridge in your room and you can put it downstairs all right take a shopping bag and put in an up for the visa closure tape around it and I want to have that even if you have a frigerator in your room right it need service you have service whatever and you should just be aware that that could also require you to seal your generally you know again that's no visits psi and freshmen as amidst usually the issue if you know you laughter deli and you come back and you see her Nellie there's not usually there but yes it's something people should be aware of I remember one time I took a yeah this is shortly after 9/11 and I and I was traveling I think to Europe and I had these elaborate meals and they were looking new at that time elaborate meals as the kind of calorie meals self eat meals and I'd never used one before and again this is Renison 9/11 so enough starving I was in the in some that everywhere but it was I was in terminal I said you know I have time not good for these meals smoking's I started eating up the meal and smoking I wouldn't try to recommend doing that I mean less unless you look I mean you could ask them I guess there's nothing illegal or not illegal but very hot it just looks funny okay he said she found out about the food from the webinar last time we spoke and she was stuck coming home from Europe with no further than I played and I specifically spoke chose the stopover in New York and found food otherwise we were able to help me get get food on her stopover it's always part of you know part of kosher snacks and every day at least in America isn't Canada every year potato sign it not solicit potato chips and granola bars I'm not saying they're healthy and you know they're not necessarily past Easter all they're not necessarily yashna but potato chips don't have any of those issues from you and one thing to point out I think also when you're traveling especially well anywhere if you see a brand that you're used to seeing in the United States you see that in Europe not necessarily the same product because many times there may be factories over there right with that brand name so it wouldn't necessarily be closure something to be asking what what do you do when you go into the US the official rules state you cannot take animal products or you can take them out the question is can you get them into the vitamin right you know that's not you don't do give away all the secrets now but generally if it's cooked meat they don't necessarily initial some countries officially wouldn't assuming they'd find it I had that once I went to Ecuador and they did take away my sandwiches really I've been to Ecuador probably half a dozen times since then and they never took we didn't take it away you know it's so it depends what I'm gonna cost me anything I'm saying maybe was ten bucks I'm saying you didn't cost me anything together through the net I didn't find it I don't find you you're right always have a back-up plan roblox aren't a good backup plan but all of ours are a good backup plan keep I always keep extra burner Lamar's in my bag just for this kind of situation this way I'm never stuck you could I have survived a Zonda Spinola VARs they give you energy and they work I would say though it's my fresh fruits fresh food always fun you know if apples aren't whatever you can find I was one I remember coming into earth that was coming to it so once and stand there and I said I don't know what shehram are they sell apples like wrapped in plastic so I'll go get an apple and I said no what it's okay if I get an apple from here let me have to start taking the tumor some oysters to her point oh when you're coming back from a country and coming into America you want to be very careful about what you're bringing in right into the food because right you might bring you might bring a sandwich on the plane and then I get it and then to have the dog sniff you here in the United States and you left the country they might love you a hard time a lot especially if you of global entry which Lowe's you know Global Entry is know what that is any minor simple silly infraction they you can risk losing it so it's not worth it well entry lets you skip the lines when you come back in on the passport lines and I what I've been doing I used to think that you know if I just had cookies or crackers or something that they didn't care and I they were only worried about vegetable you have to declare but recently the past couple times I've been declaring it doesn't want to I don't want to take your chance I love anything and it's not a big deal it just takes another couple minutes usually I'm declaring that I have everything okay Sean let's know about Rivest issues and we'll have to deal with that another time okay let's move on mm well if you borrow someone's credit card then you get into realistic questions we can't leave without touching on on hotels generally generally people rather when they travel they may end up in a hotel and we've discussed many a time about the the cards that they use to open your door though the keys a lot of people travel with Airbnb now we're gonna talk about that too yes and a garden are they going to hotel and use your your card to open up the door it's a problem for Shabbos so we've discussed our behind allows asking or gordy you said that before Shabbos and ask him my job is I'm meaning to get into my room here's my key believe that the desk and they will open if you I know that that's okay but one thing that we had actually on the starcade retreat that we had recently that they realized that some of the when you get into the room okay however youngji room you left it open they're going let you win however you got it now you want you turn around you want to lock your door right it's it's electronically activated activated so when you turn that locked when you inside you hear it right it's it's it's control it's electronically control and now you have a problem you can't ask the going to do it for you unless you want I didn't mean for the whole Shabbos so your we was stuck doing it was only using Blanche no latch on top basically all left their doors open it's fairly secure except some 1 inch but but you know you you want to these another thing that you want to check your room for if you're staying there for Shabbos make sure that the the lock on the one you're on the inside is not a little charm if there's so many things the air conditioning and the we open the door to the porch does that turn off the air conditioning you know I like some things I totally might be electronic and we haven't we have all the things on our website in the article and take a look at it I have not gone the hotel so yeah so some people take a look at that we want to talk about the escalators using an escalator or behind them and holes that you can use and that's why there's constantly going you can use on Chaves it doesn't use more or less electricity and that's okay it's a little it's not as deep but sometimes they start when you where they go they go faster when you get on those you can use they were just you know constant it's okay we some people use Shabbos elevators I don't want to get into that discussion but you should know I had a call recently by the Shabbos elevator that's been used for a long time and they realize that now when they get in there's a click is a click when you get into the elevator that means a sweep you're doing something something is a switch is activate and you know you need someone to look at your Shabbos elevator and make sure that it's really you know certified it's good try it out before the end of them what try it out before you maybe they don't serve any shot of a Muslim kid not yet the next frontier yeah let's talk about the breakfast than the food at the hotels what can you use what can you read it to enter hotels how about you know they have waffle makers and wow that looks great that stuff so what are you so Department you go to Europe and then I think these at least I didn't like in Scandinavia pigs it's a clue the European the Mediterranean style breakfast it's really nice well and your even get efficient I tell my kids sometimes we're in the airport I say the only test and you saw him that I feel sometimes is when you're traveling you're in an airport otherwise you can get all my feel lacking of any coach right mood when you're in an airport and everybody is eating and you know you're opening up your crackers and you don't want anybody to see you go to a corner right you pull out your highness Trishna so with fried onions on top of it right then it comes over just where did you get that so what about the breakfast nd at the waffle waffle-maker let's go with the waffle maker why did we get this question right you see the tile is here well let's let's start off say don't assume in consume how about that there's known assume anything just because they're the waffle mix currently has an extra whatever rules they use currently is answer doesn't mean it's always like that they're plenty of non crusher mixes out there besides the holy stroller shoot you're not gonna polish I'll leave it if you're not there's plenty of nine questions that can end up with those waffle makers official maybe that's arguable our inaudible is a deposit an official ID and that's an orbital balloon that's a different discussion I agree for a time we should tell people tell people not to use the waffle maker in the mail anything was really good basically right most of the cereals loose United States that I've seen the hotels is all around either brand names or the off brands at all in Hampshire you can ask them to see the back shirts you say anyways where's Krispies simple rice krispy simple roasted I'm gonna have a hash there's not that many companies in my cereal I think you should ask them to sneeze you actually happy to show it to you and you can see it sometimes we have muffin packaged muffin he collects taro leaves a charisma regulating if you see the bagels also if their plans end let me out of the right in the freezer box so you can ask when I see the box cream cheese usually the personal containers they have and the peanut butter and jelly and butter and things like that they have personal cuz hands but you can see if they don't start I mean usually we usually won't start right right okay fresh fruit food have usually apples and that's something what's a country trust food now hotel that people we get this question a lot so you know just certainly what to rely on as far as you know even in they go to a supermarket or they caught the fruit in the supermarket I could just tell you having been in the back I'm not even time a kosher supermarket I'm talking about we've been in the back of non kosher supermarket either because they have a kosher department where we took over the store you know don't think that everything is necessarily so clean back there and they only have the knives used for vegetables and they don't switch knives all the time and I'll tell you know where they're cooking ham and bacon and all that stuff and they're also cutting up fruit don't think things are not going to touch I'm not saying there still isn't what's relying as bit little things like that but you should just be aware of them and see us personally I'm not so harmful eating the fresh cut up food and hotel I was the whole food is not an issue bananas they serve a Hyneman he felt that if it's a supermarket that has and the meat department so then you should cut off if it's cultural you should cut off the solution I know there's what you're you know wet fruits out Wegmans over here in Owings Mills they have an apartment in front of you a whole station would that's where they cut up different so that's different dirty but if it's done in the back don't assume everything is what you think it was Richard is setting hotels will switch the waffle bed if they running out even if they say they're using at your mind so it's a problem certainly this really has a brown sugar kosher without a head shirt yes it is Shalom was asking concerning this cereals can we use it even if they use the jogging containers he means they like they put it into the box a dispenser yeah so ask them to see the box I think that's okay in hotels yes sir anything else about hotels that we think yes okay the coffee the yogurt lady where the plain coffee plain plain coffee plain coffee or are you saying that the flavor coffee house next year right we're shy flavor or they have their little creamers but you should be careful yeah the only other thing I've been up is do Gertz and like packaged snacks they have their this is something a general comment about traveling many times you'll have companies that some of them yogurts some have a good after some don't so I'm just have a cake there's a reason for that generally speaking you give a product one has a reliable option or one does it looks like the same item it's not a mistake so I wear that well whole different story you see that no words for example you know some of them have a K and it's because they have gelatin in them or something have you know you planter's peanuts is the same thing some of them are question or someone they're not quite actually had that bag had the plungers thing yeah never bought the planter today just forgot I knew the punch is that a problem Ron I just have been I checked nothing wrong with it yeah yeah the King has gelatin yes that's jealous it has a key on the outside that means a skeleton has no you calling bars be aware some of them are milk books and some of them we're not going to do it yes the coin bars which are you know until travelers kind of are that Clif bars are yeah a little bit healthier it's all relative it's all relative if all you're gonna be eating for a week is kind gosh you'd probably lose weight okay we're coming to the end of our webinar see there's one more topic we didn't miss in the interesting the airport issue with Davin II in dominating where you're going to dive in in the airport miss about is find it quite if you don't have Club access yes I'm sorry okay even the club's not all then really have great places in the diamond you know that's don't think it's not might some people say it's worth paying the 50 bucks I can get a decent chakras in make sure there's a private area in the club sometimes the new ones which would like to be open and you know you walk in and it's packed and you just wait Sarah 50 bucks it's not worth it just for a good cookbook anyways but you find an active gate that's usually the best place to do it I try to avoid it as much as possible I'm not gonna register all where the whole plane is domine I tried have always much as possible dominated with thousands full on the planes very much so it's very uncomfortable and then you feel sort of sucked out the whole physically uncomfortable the last time I did is my last time I did it interesting enough was when I was flying to Turkey to Istanbul I was the only Jew on a plane with 250 you know Muslims so the Jews I didn't feel so bad today they were bowing down I was with my child I'm throwing it wasn't so bad but the truth is then I had this yet that shrine and I had my own road to myself so it worked out but I try to avoid it I usually find you can always find a quiet gate or some corner somewhere bones rattling on the plane and they end their dive in English - right okay this was this keep seeming sitted seen it or should they stand or should they that's that's that's a good question my style is wonderful depends well I I've been told are many Ravana requests if not on your seat you certainly can have more come on in that way especially when the turbulence it's under yelling permit the sit down it doesn't make the kiddush Hashem but again everyone should consult them overall for that before that issue I agree in terms of dominate sometimes have a non-denominational Chapel in the in the airports and I've whenever I see one I stop in just to look at it to see what what it is and they're not so nondenominational anymore there's always something in there III think it's our opinion is it would be better to dabbling in the corner in the airport you know that's the only place that you have to do what you got to do the Muslims really don't so they don't they don't stick carpets go down and you can learn for that exactly oh yeah oh yeah B&B Jim I'm sorry come back to that yes they're being whispered it's oh sorry the Airbnb is right about that because you're visiting you're out with your anyway oh there's a mile up because an air B&B air caller doesn't have electric what probably have your key is that right probably I don't have that much experience with it telling the truth why would someone give you a key to their house and then their I think Jane Valentina would cook they want to have a code oh yeah I was muesli getting one actually but they headed in a lockbox lock key was inside but the kids a lot bus he needed a coat come on it could be much fun alone alright so if you're going to everything but you want to find out how you're gonna get in how are you gonna get in there nobody you gonna go me fortunate I was presumably figure out with what they're doing there we got it we got a number of questions overpay so that people were renting was the long haul annoyed right now so they were renting then going into the houses on Colin white and in some of these houses and commutes you have common geography and you have a right to use that Commons that's that's a problem if you do have a devious Commons you need to do a biga stomachs aren't all mine and when some places unitedly that was actually I called you that you call me all the other guys I got a number of calls death yeah right well I discuss it there behind him in and he said that you should tell the owner or manager that you don't want any of the food and you take no responsibility for any of the food you can't take a cries for the food and then when you go there you do if you say that you something with eco because you may have come across the cooking and there's a line out somewhere yeah by the way the food would seal up the food their closets you know you need to have it but if you're going away from basic to her to everybody you need to ask oh sure I would be lovely mussels alarm systems and sensors in these houses a lot of cameras and sensors and some call me recently about they were staying in a house like that and they realized every time they walk from room to room one of the lights LED light changes from red to green or something that's a motion sensor for whatever alarm system they have for the only mine the switch to disable it there's always a switch to disable it although the recent stories about these hidden cameras besides the thermostats right but there was waited to say leave it on shop more complicated but issues you should be aware of the check before Shabbos and call and ask and as time goes on it's gonna become more and more challenging for us how are you getting more the world gets more automated right it's becoming coming more challenging okay yeah both sigh thank you for joining and thank you I want to thank everybody for for listening people covered a fair number of topics and issues new issues and I want to end it by asking Rabbi Tendler to give us a tip have a save money it's not Cassius related how can we you know you know people booking airlines hotels car rentals it was one tip how to save money when I'm looking my my travel there is there is one thing that you want to mention to me about booking a certain time of day right if you pull yes sir so a lot of times you tickets on hold with Airlines eelain's many airlines will put tickets on bullet okay for 24 hours or sometimes a week or things like that generally all holes will expire I know it's like this benighted on Tuesday at midnight Tuesday of Midsummer's a minute all holes were inspired that's really fresh there's there are sale fairs and everything for that week celebrate so well no but it doesn't a second the system right away they refresh their fears enter United in Southwest every Tuesday night at midnight now United happens to be in Chicago at Central time and I think Southwest is indexes but also Central Time I think many airlines work that way so generally speaking I've been told and I've had success with it myself if you're looking for a ticket that's really expensive if you check let's say at 2:00 a.m. on early Wednesday morning after Tuesday night midnight has passed many times you'll find more availability and cheaper fares okay they're really desperate for that ticket you can stay up till 2:00 a.m. right or you can try first thing Wednesday morning also but usually they refresh their fears once a week how can they get in touch with you the website safe travels to everybody I want to thank everyone for joining us if you have any questions on this topic or any other topic you can reach us at 4 1 0 4 8 4 4 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