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05-29-2019 Annual Kosher Travel Edition
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STAR-K Kashrus Administrators Rabbis Zvi Goldberg, Boruch Beyer and Sholom Tenderl discuss issues involved with kosher travel including hotels, davening and finding acceptable kosher food.
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Cassius and governing and Shabbos and
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there's so many shearing out there well
you can just go here one topic you know
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back and forth and you take questions
what's that we try to answer the
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know one directional but we try to cover
a lot of areas and try to make it try to
make it interesting
let's open with the questions okay I see
everybody can hear us we got a couple of
questions by email and we'll give them
president but our preference okay we've
got a number of questions shoot okay
this is a loaded question when traveling
to another city where there are several
resident ed sheeran what guidelines
should we use to determine if a
Heckscher is reliable
so you're traveling somewhere else where
you're not used to and how do you know
whether or not that you know in your
town you know they're sharing I think
that's how you decide yes I mean we do
get this question a lot don't say you're
going to town you don't know you can
call us we try to help people we don't
publicize information we don't embarrass
anybody but if a person calls us about
another town we will give them one hour
tell them what our opinion is write it
we try right and it's also preferable
than they should do a little research
before they get to the town trip so that
you don't wait until your kids are
starving
they forced into a situation where you
buy just cookies from the local
supermarket or you can do they closed on
the road right just buy cookies and roll
bar isms okay sure this weekend I give
us a lot and also that I always and tell
the people I always tell the people
first of all I even have a choice in the
matter
alright you're calling asking a question
it's very nice but if you end up going
to some relatives house and this is the
food they're gonna be serving so you're
not really gonna be left with a choice
so you know why should we get into the
discussion about something we you're not
gonna have a choice anyways that's the
first step second step might tell people
is very simple you know we don't
necessarily know everything but every
other hex right out there call the
restaurant or facility and speak too
much data and just see you get the
feeling that knows what he's talking
about
well that's hard for a person who's not
involved in conscious it's very simple a
few very simple questions you can ask
number one you can ask them are you
whose Ashcroft are you under especially
there's multiple chairmen town sometimes
you get funny answers oh yeah we just
switched yesterday funny answers
second of all you ask to speak too much
fear to ask them that question I'm Phil
enacting Michigan if I had that
wonderful enacting Michigan menu leader
manager whoever was not I set up I speak
to the real my skin so you see if he's
there you see who's that straw feather
on there then you ask him just very
simple questions first of all who those
rare vegetable checking even if you're
not gonna eat this cell all right is
everything in your restaurant y'all
Shannon passed his child even if you
don't care about it you wanna see if he
knows the answer any mosquito can any
restaurant should know the answer to
these basic questions I mean even asking
about the shmita and just go through
those basic questions and you get a feel
that you see if the guy knows what he's
talking about
you know I myself I think the reason I'm
here is I do end up traveling a little
bit involved in the vegetable industry
so I know you live on the plane I just
want the time before you go into that so
if you're in a small town though many
times I've found at least that there are
also you know gossip requirements or
realities are different in restaurants
many times you don't have
an on site much gift in a lot of these
out-of-town restaurants there isn't
enough you might have a rope English
yeah resources right in a small town
small tonight the question was versus
multiple of us usually that means okay
then the ready unit bigger than 0 town
but you're right in the smaller town
you're not just looking how much gives
media and I've been in smaller towns
where the local upon them are very much
on top of the caches as much as they
could be and you know what for that town
it's certainly but it's not the standard
that the person well again you can make
your own educated decision speaks to
this person second question which is if
a heckler is reliable for an item on the
shelf in the grocery store would it be
okay to rely on that extra for a
restaurant I think the answer is
resounding no necessarily totally right
we actually make that distinction a lot
of times that a factory that's producing
you set it up you have the guidelines
you can you can basically set it up the
way you want a restaurant you're dealing
with all these other factors right
Esther is a totally different okay
that's one one one question we have
another one here do you have an updated
with an underlying updated list of
reliable has chairing for meals on
international airlines because we do
have wise why they help writing that
because we do have an article from years
ago we had talking about the about the
flight so what are you beating on the
flags in the tummy okay no it was done
many years ago and very difficult to
keep updated because information changes
shared change the caterers change and
it's like a full-time job to it's not
about your line you're stuck your any
Airport can get from any different
caterer and you say oh you're gonna end
up you can get wrinkled meals if you fly
one set if I repose you on TWA right
first Latino but it doesn't exist
anymore and and you know and that
caterer maybe does it doesn't exist and
they sold out and they also they got
four
article talks about what meals you get
on Continental standards like you said
from from New York City from JFK right
no series or certain standards the Elgin
are you gonna get or from Israel there
are certain standards that you know you
can deal with its when you're flying 99%
of the questions are coming from your
floor when you're flying and the cashews
in Europe it sometimes depends which
city will stop over sitting that year
that way I mean that's the way it works
right so in answer to that questions we
do not have an updated contact us before
your trip you might be able to run our
information usually then isn't Lee based
on you know if it's postman is minam so
we can find that from the bottom okay
which meal was Sunday or a box-boy you
know last week or you know went through
Poland or Moscow or Brussels or any
other suitable your Istanbul okay so I
mean that's a fair question and we did
the research Syria drumming rosin
actually did the reason serious research
years ago
it's 2007 okay so it's been changed a
lot okay another question we got also
about Airlines what is a reliable source
of Zaman and for dobbing on the plane to
figure out the proper times for
dominance my Supriya schmoes my fila Oh
a shocker
any websites recommended so that I
actually have the answer to there are
two websites we can recommend one is
called high cables can you type that out
Chapman high cables CH AI ta BL es calm
and also my's Magnum
so it's air mines man and calm so those
two are reckoned they actually working a
little bit two different ways I think
the side cables gives you what's
supposed to be based on the route of
your flight then mais madame takes the
last five or ten actual flights and they
figure out
what the way to fly - I'm going to save
goes more northmoor's you know it
depends on how they actually fly they
tracking they configure there's easy to
track lines you take a fly
you pull them from another side they
pull it in their sights and wrapped each
flight and they pull it in and then they
give you this Magnum an average of the
way it was a banana changes all the time
it's only gonna be it's gonna be a close
close guess at best
you know better than a guess but it's
not gonna be exact you know for example
United just stopped flying to Mumbai the
only flying to New Delhi because the
winds changed and it's too much
there's too much there's too much
headwind getting all the way to Mumbai
they can't fly that far anymore it's
only fly to New Delhi so this is like
for like these kinds of things may be
different so you know they change much
not much like day by day a lot of times
I want to I want to recommend to look at
for this question particularly look at
rabbi members article on Zaman in on
what heaven is dark area from the
starcade but you haven't you put up the
link to his article and it's it's really
that article together with these with
this information can can guide you
because like you said it's not exact
nothing is exact so you need to know
like sort of get that idea behind it and
then go go go look at the tables that
you have like trying to figure out
wonder that my roof this time the ear
like you guys are like Sweden or
something well it's very it's like old
day it's little day right yeah and most
have many webinars about that topic
remember that uh ever told the story but
last year's annual travel women I was
with Rabbi ever so he told the story
about the rabbi he was trying to figure
out if he can davon Myra's and he looked
out the plane window and he saw the moon
figured out it moves up I can down the
matter and they need any Dom in Mars and
then
he realized something was not right and
he has the stewardess said she said
that's not the move that's the son
because in on the Dreamliner they shave
with us they make it like dark so you
can be more comfortable so there's a
really visit tense what's that the
window just tense on a minute okay so
she says so so also a trivia that he
mentioned what's the longest flight that
you can not dive in on the plane and
döblin with a minion on each side what's
what's the longest you can go between
between and youngnam that you dive in
with a minion on the ground so it's
gonna be too long it's gonna be gonna
have to dive down the plane if you take
the the midnight or a little bit after
midnight flight on United from area to
swirl to San Francisco so it leaves you
can domino say in the winter six o'clock
at night you Dobbin in my opinion the
neutral line at six o'clock moderate and
then six hours later you get on the
flight you travel for 1415 hours you'll
and I think five to six o'clock in the
morning and then you go there with nine
o'clock menuing you know you know you
spend almost like you were able to dive
with the mini on both sides the world
there's a break of like 20 hours in
between okay let's see if through any
questions here that are
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we can talk about traveling and there it
is wrong with with with hodgkin's in
there to soil not yeah this really is
asking a really difficult topic I mean
you would think that Chicago the
narrative so would be easier because
it's a Jewish state it's actually more
complicated Rebbe Rosen wants made a
very good point that on a base level
it's better because almost everything is
culture undergrad one note so the so
most people not eating eating great trip
and it doesn't help the person who wants
to eat the level of kasra cities used to
thank you true some items lying it was a
lack of you have so many other ones meet
them it's complicated we don't really
have time to get in there and that but
what I invite you to call the office at
4 1 0 44 4 1 1 0 with that question or
any other questions that you have right
now someone wants to know which
countries can we use demotious call of
health or in other words that that's a
good question of moshe has a head do
that in countries that have a rule of
law that you can if you don't need call
me soil particularly you can rely on the
government that the milk is acceptable
it's called a stump that doesn't apply
in every country in the world
so what your countries is my with a
venezuelan out
so Syria if you want to Syria not a lie
you know
Iran also I know an Iran if I don't look
you know pigs too often they're the true
question no camels in stable because
actually actually is a big commodity now
can what was there a mystical Mexico not
lets go obviously not a code we do
there's a lot of research amongst
agencies amongst different countries in
the world about this was not a few years
ago it has to me it has to be a law in
the books but it has to also be enforced
so you could have along the books but if
it's worth twenty dollars under the
table and you get around the law cuz I
just like that in certain parts of the
world so that didn't really so let's say
generally speaking again Western Europe
nice country is forget what some of the
France Germany Italy Italy Poland Poland
Finland Poland Switzerland I'm sure
there yeah that would all be okay the
United States and Canada obviously right
and after that it really gets iffy it
really gives if you you know there's
some countries here some countries now
in South American some countries are
better than others but still it seems
the consensus is that outside of Western
Europe it'll really Australia's fine I
believe
okay so unless you have a particular
normal unless you have a particular
question about the country I mean
basically those are those are the
guidelines that we would we would use
yeah okay South Africa or Ireland how
would you know South Africa
a little bit more questionable there
because the girls really look it up we
have nearly we should talk to you you
would want to talk to them yes mother
baiz them but they didn't South Africa
which are very liable in Johannesburg
you can call people in Ireland but you
can certainly call people in London that
they have Sharon Inglewood no Bernard
would know viral and the president your
highness from Cape Town would know about
South Africa then wants to know if you
can mention a list of questions to ask
in another town much give to help make a
decision so I think we should it's not
bad and they mention the gym but I'm
saying can we put it down in writing
like the questions to ask if you email
us we we try we try to do that okay um
there's one okay well it's long we're
talking about the airplane let's keep
keep keep talking about airplanes and
food we have some other things to
discuss where do we get food when you're
travelling in the airports so star Kenny
has the the fresco meals of sandwiches
fresco that's even where new airports
Newark JFK LaGuardia right well
sometimes involves Austin Washington
really used to be once in a while and
also there Penn Station both Newark and
New York City of Penn Station so they're
sealed sealed package meals you have to
look for the starcade where do they sell
them like in any other nice stores SIBO
Express in Newark Airport SIBO CIB no
Express which happens to be like one of
these like interesting chair Joe's style
right of course stores they sell a lot
of very interesting items that a lot of
that stuff is on them you finally
nowadays in the airports in these places
you find a lot of them have have like
Chobani yogurt gotta stuff Holly's felt
okay you're talking about things that
you can get any right only your
personally they're gonna have we're
talking about a saffron this sound real
things were real food than candy bars
where the homeless em pretzel is that
from Sabra with are available everywhere
you get those also in Toronto they have
under the COR
around international departures a
national archers have cor certified food
otherwise you're stuck with you know the
granola bars potato chips so we were
discussing before that you you could you
kid
you can order now with ubereats use your
app to order food if you're in the area
that has a kosher restaurant that signed
up with uber has anyone ever done that
sure have you done that I've never done
it myself in all restaurants used or -
will be eats and what's the other one
GrubHub all these things you can then
they'll deliver it they can deliver to
an airport they're not going to come
through the security ticket with you but
how does that work it's going after you
to let you choose the restaurant you
want you choose the menu which is
uploaded to their app you want to go
let's see mama Leia's Pizza well here
are can eat them outside definitely do
not sign in the airport is that before
you got something right before you go to
security need one more than your food
and make sure I'm like like let's stop
over this farm and walk onto the plane
if they forgot your first class meal a
complaint to the airline don't call
robbed of a mile level so they we also
want to mention that you should make
sure that the meals come properly sealed
it might even be be advisable to put it
you can put into the app instructions to
the restaurant like please make sure my
meal comes well you should know that one
of the rules of these apps is because
they don't want to have they want to
limit their liability and you get the
wrong order they have to see all the
food items for example if you order
three hamburgers from Dougie's over here
also does it they have to open the bag
and look inside and see three hamburgers
there so you say the GrubHub drivers
uber driver or they have to verify that
so traditionally the way our restaurants
do is they'll sue the bag with two seals
they can't do that when it's going to
one of these orders so what they do
instead is they double seal each
individual item that's what they do but
you have to make sure that it was done
properly when you get your food you
should be aware that the bag is not
going to be able to be sealed but the
food should be sealed with two seal you
mean the other other bags not gonna be
able
I wonder how I wonder how many kosher
restaurants around the country know to
do that though that this what I'm saying
you know are are places I can escape our
place Israel that's what they have to do
we
somebody told me there's an idea that if
you have let's say there's no overeats
which is a special app or your
restaurant doesn't do Cooper eats you
can have a regular booboo driver when
you put down the origin is you're a
restaurant and the destination is you
and you you call the uber driver while
he's on the way and thinking he's going
to pick up a person you tell me not
picking up a person you're picking up my
food at the restaurant and please bring
it to me so instead of delivering a
person he's delivering the food and
apparently this bill does with some
success I was in a car recently and I
asked the driver if he would be willing
to do that and he said no he wouldn't do
it I said why not what's the difference
if you're moving a person you're moving
for you get the same amount of money so
he said he's worried about liability
he's not sure that like if someone needs
to food and he gets sick is he covered
or if if it gets to an accident he's not
I'm part of the app it doesn't have like
that mind like a liability insurance
money insurance laws about it and he's
not sure how it works and doesn't want
take a chance that's what he told me but
look I'm sure there obviously there are
those that are doing it
to question it do you want to take a
chance every driver why not what's the
difference then the bag will be sealed
and ability sealed so yeah why would I
worry about we also did one discuss of
what if you go overseas like on your
trips there Chum how do you take food
with you take food with me are you
probably speaking a vacuum packed meats
and all the kinds of prepackaged
shelf-stable meals that they saw in the
supermarket or various companies varying
degree of tastes I'll give you that
again you're traveling so you don't have
you know I don't take tune I don't go
overseas like to the Far East Russia
I've never had to been there I've been
to you know you're a parasternal South
America but different places like that
well you went to Turkey right some of
the two-degree them Turkey
so I actually brought a bunch of racks
with me and packaged deli how do they
keep it fresh so first of all you can
find frozen before I left so it stayed
frozen up a little while and then when I
got the hotel I put in the hotel freezer
now I have a spoiled luxury that I will
I travel in my bag with a roller coaster
tape because this way I get to hotel
muscari to what's going has the starcade
symbol on it and that is used to seal up
all the food that you get from GrubHub
or door - is still the start if it's
from a story restaurant I keep one of
those in my bag you also rise to have it
s good to have it paid for it but I got
person to have it and I get to tell if
they don't have a refrigerator in the
room which many of them don't especially
the you know depending on what kind of
hotel is on it and on especially in
foreign countries you have to put it in
the all used it put it in refrigerator
for you in the kitchen or something then
you have to seal the food yourself
especially if you're reusing the food
throughout the trip so I keep a role
coach daven this or I could reseal it
and give it even without a person could
do that without sign-in so if you want
to hotel and they don't have a fridge in
your room and you can put it downstairs
all right take a shopping bag and put in
an up for the visa closure tape around
it and I want to have that even if you
have a frigerator in your room right it
need service you have service whatever
and you should just be aware that that
could also require you to seal your
generally you know again that's no
visits psi and freshmen as amidst
usually the issue if you know you
laughter deli and you come back and you
see her Nellie there's not usually there
but yes it's something people should be
aware of I remember one time I took a
yeah this is shortly after 9/11 and I
and I was traveling I think to Europe
and I had these elaborate meals and they
were looking new at that time
elaborate meals as the kind of calorie
meals self eat meals and I'd never used
one before and again this is Renison
9/11 so enough starving I was in the in
some that everywhere but it was I was in
terminal I said you know I have time not
good for these meals
smoking's I started eating up the meal
and smoking I wouldn't try to recommend
doing that
I mean less unless you look I mean you
could ask them I guess there's nothing
illegal or not illegal but very hot it
just looks funny okay he said she found
out about the food from the webinar last
time we spoke and she was stuck coming
home from Europe with no further than I
played and I specifically spoke chose
the stopover in New York and found food
otherwise we were able to help me get
get food on her stopover it's always
part of you know part of kosher snacks
and every day at least in America isn't
Canada every year potato sign it not
solicit potato chips and granola bars
I'm not saying they're healthy and you
know they're not necessarily past Easter
all they're not necessarily yashna but
potato chips don't have any of those
issues from you and one thing to point
out I think also when you're traveling
especially well anywhere if you see a
brand that you're used to seeing in the
United States you see that in Europe not
necessarily the same product because
many times there may be factories over
there right with that brand name so it
wouldn't necessarily be closure
something to be asking what what do you
do when you go into the US the official
rules state you cannot take animal
products or you can take them out the
question is can you get them into the
vitamin right you know that's not you
don't do give away all the secrets now
but generally if it's cooked meat they
don't necessarily
initial some countries officially
wouldn't assuming they'd find it I had
that once I went to Ecuador and they did
take away my sandwiches really I've been
to Ecuador probably half a dozen times
since then and they never took we didn't
take it away you know it's so it depends
what I'm gonna cost me anything I'm
saying maybe was ten bucks I'm saying
you didn't cost me anything together
through the net I didn't find it I don't
find you you're right always have a
back-up plan
roblox aren't a good backup plan but all
of ours are a good backup plan keep I
always keep extra burner Lamar's in my
bag just for this kind of situation this
way I'm never stuck you could I have
survived a Zonda Spinola VARs they give
you energy and they work I would say
though it's my fresh fruits fresh food
always fun you know if apples aren't
whatever you can find
I was one I remember coming into earth
that was coming to it so once and stand
there and I said I don't know what
shehram are they sell apples like
wrapped in plastic so I'll go get an
apple and I said no what it's okay if I
get an apple from here let me have to
start taking the tumor some oysters to
her point oh when you're coming back
from a country and coming into America
you want to be very careful about what
you're bringing in right into the food
because right you might bring you might
bring a sandwich on the plane and then I
get it and then to have the dog sniff
you here in the United States and you
left the country they might love you a
hard time a lot especially if you of
global entry which Lowe's you know
Global Entry is know what that is
any minor simple silly infraction they
you can risk losing it so it's not worth
it well entry lets you skip the lines
when you come back in on the passport
lines and I what I've been doing I used
to think that you know if I just had
cookies or crackers or something that
they didn't care and I they were only
worried about vegetable
you have to declare but recently the
past couple times I've been declaring it
doesn't want to I don't want to take
your chance I love anything and it's not
a big deal it just takes another couple
minutes usually I'm declaring that I
have everything okay Sean let's know
about Rivest issues and we'll have to
deal with that another time okay let's
move on mm well if you borrow someone's
credit card then you get into realistic
questions we can't leave without
touching on on hotels generally
generally people rather when they travel
they may end up in a hotel and we've
discussed many a time about the the
cards that they use to open your door
though the keys a lot of people travel
with Airbnb now we're gonna talk about
that too
yes and a garden are they going to hotel
and use your your card to open up the
door it's a problem for Shabbos so we've
discussed our behind allows asking or
gordy you said that before Shabbos and
ask him my job is I'm meaning to get
into my room here's my key believe that
the desk and they will open if you I
know that that's okay but one thing that
we had actually on the starcade retreat
that we had recently that they realized
that some of the when you get into the
room okay however youngji room you left
it open they're going let you win
however you got it now you want you turn
around you want to lock your door right
it's it's electronically activated
activated so when you turn that locked
when you inside you hear it right it's
it's it's control it's electronically
control and now you have a problem you
can't ask the going to do it for you
unless you want I didn't mean for the
whole Shabbos so your we was stuck doing
it was only using Blanche no latch on
top basically all left their doors open
it's fairly secure except some
1 inch but but you know you you want to
these another thing that you want to
check your room for if you're staying
there for Shabbos make sure that the the
lock on the one you're on the inside is
not a little charm if there's so many
things the air conditioning and the we
open the door to the porch does that
turn off the air conditioning you know I
like some things I totally might be
electronic and we haven't we have all
the things on our website in the article
and take a look at it I have not gone
the hotel so yeah so some people take a
look at that we want to talk about the
escalators using an escalator or behind
them and holes that you can use and
that's why there's constantly going you
can use on Chaves it doesn't use more or
less electricity and that's okay it's a
little it's not as deep but sometimes
they start when you where they go they
go faster when you get on those you can
use they were just you know constant
it's okay we some people use Shabbos
elevators I don't want to get into that
discussion but you should know I had a
call recently by the Shabbos elevator
that's been used for a long time and
they realize that now when they get in
there's a click is a click when you get
into the elevator that means a sweep
you're doing something something is a
switch is activate and you know you need
someone to look at your Shabbos elevator
and make sure that it's really you know
certified it's good try it out before
the end of them what try it out before
you maybe they don't serve any shot of a
Muslim kid not yet the next frontier
yeah let's talk about the breakfast than
the food at the hotels what can you use
what can you read it to enter hotels how
about you know they have waffle makers
and wow that looks great that stuff so
what are you so Department you go to
Europe and then I think these at least I
didn't like in Scandinavia pigs
it's a clue the European the
Mediterranean style breakfast it's
really nice well and your even get
efficient I tell my kids sometimes we're
in the airport I say the only test and
you saw him that I feel sometimes is
when you're traveling you're in an
airport otherwise you can get all my
feel lacking of any coach right mood
when you're in an airport and everybody
is eating and you know you're opening up
your crackers and you don't want anybody
to see you go to a corner right you pull
out your highness Trishna so with fried
onions on top of it right then it comes
over just where did you get that
so what about the breakfast nd at the
waffle waffle-maker let's go with the
waffle maker why did we get this
question right you see the tile is here
well let's let's start off say don't
assume in consume how about that
there's known assume anything just
because they're the waffle mix currently
has an extra whatever rules they use
currently is answer doesn't mean it's
always like that they're plenty of non
crusher mixes out there besides the holy
stroller shoot you're not gonna polish
I'll leave it if you're not there's
plenty of nine questions that can end up
with those waffle makers official maybe
that's arguable our inaudible is a
deposit an official ID and that's an
orbital balloon that's a different
discussion I agree for a time we should
tell people tell people not to use the
waffle maker in the mail anything was
really good basically right most of the
cereals loose United States that I've
seen the hotels is all around either
brand names or the off brands at all in
Hampshire you can ask them to see the
back shirts you say anyways where's
Krispies simple rice krispy simple
roasted I'm gonna have a hash there's
not that many companies in my cereal I
think you should ask them to sneeze you
actually happy to show it to you and you
can see it sometimes we have muffin
packaged muffin he collects taro leaves
a charisma
regulating if you see the bagels also if
their plans end let me out of the right
in the freezer box so you can ask when I
see the box
cream cheese usually the personal
containers they have and the peanut
butter and jelly and butter and things
like that they have personal cuz hands
but you can see if they don't start I
mean usually we usually won't start
right right okay fresh fruit food have
usually apples and that's something
what's a country trust food now hotel
that people we get this question a lot
so you know just certainly what to rely
on as far as you know even in they go to
a supermarket or they caught the fruit
in the supermarket I could just tell you
having been in the back I'm not even
time a kosher supermarket I'm talking
about we've been in the back of non
kosher supermarket either because they
have a kosher department where we took
over the store you know don't think that
everything is necessarily so clean back
there and they only have the knives used
for vegetables and they don't switch
knives all the time and I'll tell you
know where they're cooking ham and bacon
and all that stuff and they're also
cutting up fruit don't think things are
not going to touch I'm not saying there
still isn't what's relying as bit little
things like that but you should just be
aware of them and see us personally I'm
not so harmful eating the fresh cut up
food and hotel I was the whole food is
not an issue bananas they serve a
Hyneman he felt that if it's a
supermarket that has and the meat
department so then you should cut off if
it's cultural you should cut off the
solution I know there's what you're you
know wet fruits out Wegmans over here in
Owings Mills they have an apartment in
front of you a whole station would
that's where they cut up different so
that's different dirty but if it's done
in the back don't assume everything is
what you think it was Richard is setting
hotels will switch the waffle bed if
they running out even if they say
they're using at your mind so it's a
problem certainly this really has a
brown sugar kosher without a head shirt
yes it is Shalom was asking concerning
this cereals can we use it even if they
use the jogging containers he means they
like they put it into the box a
dispenser
yeah so ask them to see the box I think
that's okay in hotels yes sir anything
else about hotels that we think yes okay
the coffee the yogurt lady where the
plain coffee plain plain coffee
plain coffee or are you saying that the
flavor coffee house next year right
we're shy flavor or they have their
little creamers but you should be
careful yeah
the only other thing I've been up is do
Gertz and like packaged snacks they have
their this is something a general
comment about traveling many times
you'll have companies that some of them
yogurts some have a good after some
don't so I'm just have a cake there's a
reason for that
generally speaking you give a product
one has a reliable option or one does it
looks like the same item it's not a
mistake
so I wear that well whole different
story you see that no words for example
you know some of them have a K and it's
because they have gelatin in them or
something have you know you planter's
peanuts is the same thing some of them
are question or someone they're not
quite actually had that bag had the
plungers thing yeah never bought the
planter today just forgot I knew the
punch is that a problem
Ron I just have been I checked nothing
wrong with it yeah yeah the King has
gelatin yes that's jealous it has a key
on the outside that means a skeleton has
no you calling bars be aware some of
them are milk books and some of them
we're not going to do it yes
the coin bars which are you know until
travelers kind of are that Clif bars are
yeah a little bit healthier it's all
relative it's all relative if all you're
gonna be eating for a week is kind gosh
you'd probably lose weight okay we're
coming to the end of our webinar see
there's one more topic we didn't miss in
the interesting the airport issue with
Davin II in dominating where you're
going to dive in in the airport
miss about is find it quite if you don't
have Club access yes I'm sorry okay even
the club's not all then really have
great places in the diamond you know
that's don't think it's not might some
people say it's worth paying the 50
bucks I can get a decent chakras in make
sure there's a private area in the club
sometimes the new ones which would like
to be open and you know you walk in and
it's packed and you just wait Sarah 50
bucks it's not worth it just for a good
cookbook anyways but you find an active
gate that's usually the best place to do
it I try to avoid it as much as possible
I'm not gonna register all where the
whole plane is domine
I tried have always much as possible
dominated with thousands full on the
planes very much so it's very
uncomfortable and then you feel sort of
sucked out the whole physically
uncomfortable the last time I did is my
last time I did it interesting enough
was when I was flying to Turkey to
Istanbul I was the only Jew on a plane
with 250 you know Muslims so the Jews I
didn't feel so bad today they were
bowing down I was with my child I'm
throwing it wasn't so bad but the truth
is then I had this yet that shrine and I
had my own road to myself so it worked
out but I try to avoid it I usually find
you can always find a quiet gate or some
corner somewhere bones rattling on the
plane and they end their dive in English
- right okay this was this keep seeming
sitted seen it or should they stand or
should they that's that's that's a good
question my style is wonderful depends
well I I've been told are many Ravana
requests if not on your seat you
certainly can have more come on in that
way especially when the turbulence it's
under yelling permit the sit down it
doesn't make the kiddush Hashem but
again everyone should consult them
overall for that
before that issue I agree in terms of
dominate sometimes have a
non-denominational Chapel in the in the
airports and I've whenever I see one I
stop in just to look at it to see what
what it is and they're not so
nondenominational anymore there's always
something in there
III think it's our opinion is it would
be better to dabbling in the corner in
the airport you know that's the only
place that you have to do what you got
to do the Muslims really don't so they
don't they don't stick carpets go down
and you can learn for that exactly oh
yeah oh yeah B&B Jim I'm sorry come back
to that yes they're being whispered it's
oh sorry the Airbnb is right about that
because you're visiting you're out with
your anyway oh there's a mile up because
an air B&B air caller doesn't have
electric what probably have your key is
that right probably I don't have that
much experience with it telling the
truth
why would someone give you a key to
their house and then their I think Jane
Valentina would cook they want to have a
code oh yeah I was muesli getting one
actually but they headed in a lockbox
lock key was inside but the kids a lot
bus he needed a coat come on it could be
much fun alone alright so if you're
going to everything but you want to find
out how you're gonna get in how are you
gonna get in there nobody you gonna go
me fortunate I was presumably
figure out with what they're doing there
we got it we got a number of questions
overpay so that people were renting was
the long haul annoyed right now so they
were renting then going into the houses
on Colin white and in some of these
houses and commutes you have common
geography and you have a right to use
that Commons that's that's a problem if
you do have a devious Commons you need
to do a biga stomachs aren't all mine
and when some places unitedly that was
actually I called you that you call me
all the other guys I got a number of
calls death yeah right well I discuss it
there behind him in and he said that you
should tell the owner or manager that
you don't want any of the food and you
take no responsibility for any of the
food you can't take a cries for the food
and then when you go there you do if you
say that you something with eco because
you may have come across the cooking and
there's a line out somewhere yeah by the
way the food would seal up the food
their closets you know you need to have
it but if you're going away from basic
to her to everybody you need to ask oh
sure I would be lovely mussels alarm
systems and sensors in these houses a
lot of cameras and sensors and some call
me recently about they were staying in a
house like that and they realized every
time they walk from room to room one of
the lights LED light changes from red to
green or something that's a motion
sensor for whatever alarm system they
have for the only mine the switch to
disable it there's always a switch to
disable it although the recent stories
about these hidden cameras besides the
thermostats right but there was waited
to say leave it on shop
more complicated but issues you should
be aware of the check before Shabbos and
call and ask and as time goes on it's
gonna become more and more challenging
for us how are you getting more the
world gets more automated right it's
becoming coming more challenging okay
yeah both sigh thank you for joining and
thank you I want to thank everybody for
for listening
people covered a fair number of topics
and issues new issues and I want to end
it by asking Rabbi Tendler to give us a
tip have a save money it's not Cassius
related how can we you know you know
people booking airlines hotels car
rentals it was one tip how to save money
when I'm looking my my travel there is
there is one thing that you want to
mention to me about booking a certain
time of day right if you pull yes sir
so a lot of times you tickets on hold
with Airlines eelain's many airlines
will put tickets on bullet okay for 24
hours or sometimes a week or things like
that generally all holes will expire I
know it's like this benighted on Tuesday
at midnight Tuesday of Midsummer's a
minute all holes were inspired that's
really fresh there's there are sale
fairs and everything for that week
celebrate so well no but it doesn't a
second the system right away they
refresh their fears enter United in
Southwest every Tuesday night
at midnight now United happens to be in
Chicago at Central time and I think
Southwest is indexes but also Central
Time
I think many airlines work that way so
generally speaking I've been told and
I've had success with it myself if
you're looking for a ticket that's
really expensive if you check let's say
at 2:00 a.m. on early Wednesday morning
after Tuesday night midnight has passed
many times you'll find more availability
and cheaper fares okay they're really
desperate for that ticket you can stay
up till 2:00 a.m. right or you can try
first thing Wednesday morning also but
usually they refresh their fears once a
week how can they get in touch with you
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