05-27-2020 Covid-19 Kashrus

no I'm welcome to star kids monthly webinar tell each month the last Wednesday of the month usually it's at noon Eastern Time today because of some scheduling conflicts we made it at four o'clock but we did get some issues from air to scroll that it's too late over there so we're trying to please everybody we do have a recording of this and make it available to you after the after the show we did give out a calling number on the email that you got but I want to give you a better calling number it's two six seven two seven nine nine thousand two six seven two seven nine nine thousand with the pin is one one two eight five three one six seven so that's actually a better number I'm going to put it over here in the chat which is on your right side of your screen and then we want to welcome today Robbie Alvaro Michelle thank you for joining us my pleasure and you have a Shum Tendler thank you right over you and I'm single bryggen well I'm your host I'm glad that you could join with us as you can see we are in different locations I'm in my office here at the starcade there's only a couple of us here at michelle is also here and repeat endler is at a local restaurant access is going to give us a tour later and show us how we do much gift work during these difficult times with social distancing and so on if you have any questions feel free to put it on your screen at the bottom right there's a there's a chat box there and we'll try to get to your questions as well I saw the topics we have for today what are the topics three topics okay Eve says no audio no audio on the moderator mmm okay if anybody else has that has that okay you too here's us and them okay so I assume they're okay great thank you very much okay everybody is able to hear us I assume that that's a technical part take a little issue on your side Eve so please look at your computer see what the issue is something must be something there our tech tech support is not here because of the because of the issues and so I am the mother and your tech support or whatever else you want okay so the topics the topics for today's show a lot of people shopping from home not in your regular stores trying to stay away from the stores and and so they they may buy not in regular foods foods would come without a texture so what is it that you can buy reasonably kosher with alloted extra what are those items we'll go through some of those then we want to talk about what star K is doing howhow are we visiting our plants what's the protocol whether we are we go into the facilities that's number two and number three as I mentioned my Tendler would give us a tour of a actual restaurant and show us what what he's doing to do that okay so let's take a look we have here a list I hope everybody can see that on your screens this is a list that we made up we didn't publish publish it so you're getting the first look at it here of items that are acceptable without certification we're a little bit hesitant to put this out because these things change and we won't discuss it you know we can here we can talk about and see what what whether what the issues could be so as noted here all the acceptable items it's not the homeless this is for five pages here we have that's just the first page so there's amount of pages here the only acceptable if they appear without additives only if they come from outside emeritus role of Israel there's otherwise you need to tie them okay okay I'm being asked to make it larger so let's do that okay we try to please hopefully that's a little bit better it's not for use for Pesach and some items here may require checking for insects and we have our website check for insects by 10:00 where's our bug expert and he put together that that site for us and very importantly this list does not reflect stock you have SEC acceptance of product for us certified companies in some cases we require a half-shirt so what we're telling it was this is reasonable to you know in a home situation to use without the extra but doesn't mean necessarily uses these items in their facilities okay so let's go through right go when I believe this is on our website this list correct no it's not you know no website because will it be we'll discuss it during the webinar we'll figure out if there's a lot of discussion in office about this item maybe it shouldn't be on that item you know but it's a reasonable isn't published yet okay let's take the first item I got a nectar around Michelle you have any thoughts about that generally speaking I don't think we've come across real issues with agave nectar like any liquid product it's going to be repacked potentially you know it might be heated in a place where they're packing it to get viscosity the flow easier but as a rule it's it's generally not nice you okay so it should be it should be okay all right apple juice it's it's as pure better if possible certification so apple juice basically is acceptable if you can't get it with with your modification would be better and that's because there Michelle why one issue you'd be looking at it and apple juice is the bottling or the canning facility they may also be processing grape juice and therefore you'd want the Heckscher to be looking into see that they clean out between products would not would not compromise the contras the other thing is that apple juice is clarified as they were all unless you're buying the murky apple juice but generally speaking apple juice is clarified and if it's clarified there are different procedures to do that one of the things is that additive would be an enzyme that pectin eyes that gathers the solids and makes them fall to the bottom so it's easy for them to make it clear and the other thing is that there are different types of filtration systems and some their filtration systems do have storage and glycerine Ori or use gelatin so it's always better to have a half shell or something like that but as a rule the volume of what's going through would negate you know the evidence that would be both with everything like we share without a certification but that's why we it's also reason why we get a lot of questions people ask about apple cider I'm hard cider and things like that which for the same reasons that we say requires a hex sure because the apple juice sources for those places is sometimes from areas in the world where they're known to use gelatin as a clarifying agent so if you find some apple cider vinegar apple cider i'm sorry some hard cider hard apple cider from some companies might have a after some don't don't assume it's all the same mm-hmm okay almond paste if the ingredients the only almond sugar and water so it's very simple aluminum foil pans we're not really worried about that they Shamir them with any oils we haven't found that to be when they do the stamping code there is an oil that's used but as a rule it's usually a petrochemical oil like a mineral oil a mineral oil then again me potentially could be another type of oil and this is hot that's a process it's also heated at different stages so as a rule it's going to be a pure question but the of it but Fela you know it's it's that better with a hatchet well aluminum foil pans aluminum foil pans there okay write what you think is better with the Heckscher I would say put it the same as an apple juice really okay so we need to redo it that's why we can't put out this list on my show because we need to read the Queen every every time we go through because it's not so simple okay ammonia I guess because people ask about it but obviously it doesn't mean I think that when everyone in the office would agree on that if you make a look I'm on it it will be your last okay apple pectin powder would be okay okay now applesauce applesauce plain only even with high fructose corn syrup and vitamins even though high fructose corn syrup could be an issue by itself but in the in the in what happened to the to the list there okay um in the in the applesauce it would be nullified it's not really a big problem and it would be it would be it would be okay so applesauce is kind of thing that it doesn't require actually if you would buy it without sure you would be getting something you'll have a much gif going in and checking it out but it is acceptable without any extra also baking powder so baking powder I think if you if you would agree with me the rabbis here that baking powder is is an item you really don't get anything if you buy with a half year you're not really the concerns are so small that it really doesn't baking powder baking soda I don't know I think the concerns are very small the pure mineral baking powder has additives some high and some people are martyred on tartaric acid honey rhetoric acid in them that's something that some people may have concerns okay tartaric acid no real natural tartaric acid is a byproduct of winemaking which could some people are mocked on and some people say it's not an issue because it's dried okay okay so then let's say the baking soda would be something that doesn't work white doesn't you're not really getting any benefit by actually would you agree with that correct okay barbecue bricks no problem but raw barley pearl barley not a problem but again you may have to check it for bugs you have to see our website updated info dry beam bee pollen pure bleach again and I didn't only because people ask us about it so for cleaning you know for cleaning the sink unprocessed bran raw buckwheat raw bulgur calcium carbonate lactate which is probably not something you're gonna buy plain I don't think anyway calcium gluconate same for that candles 100% pure paraffin what would people be worried about by candles that it's made of some some animal fat in the old days that was common hmm so they don't want it to get on their dishes become trades silo right okay but there's no problem really okay capers and water salts that your lactic acid only so you have to read the ingredients carob powder carrots raw frozen I've done you carry sometimes can come from Meritus all right very common right especially in this time of year especially well I guess that's that's the general as we see the general agricultural clause any agricultural product you have to make sure it's not a product of Israel right now specifically I would pay attention to peppers citrus and carrot citrus fruits all types and carrots a lot of them from Israel now and herbs parsley specifically it's a lot of this comes from rights at all because that see the quality is superb that's why a lot of companies bring it in you still bring you now or even morning oh yeah oh yeah even more meaning one of our companies signed the contract for the next seven years every year to get carrots almost exclusively in season from Israel because they said you can't compare the quality which was nice to hear it's a little more complicated for us that way because we have to be more efficient with my shows on TV - coming up in a few years but we'll deal with that when we when we get there okay barbecue bricks cheese cloth but people ask about it you never know you never know cocoa beans cocoa butter cocoa nibs cocoa powder which is just plain cocoa not cocoa mix like you buy might buy you know with sugar and all the additives that does need a certification coconut powder coconut water coffee beans unflavored but if they're flavored of coffee ground unflavored if they're flavored then the flavors require certification corn grits corn husks cornmeal cornmeal is precooked with vitamins okay same thing corn powder keep going counter surface cleaners okay because they're just going on your counter and we haven't found them to be a kosher issue couscous raw 100% wheat crock pot liners cupcake all those date syrup dental floss even flavored because you're not eating it you're just not meant to be eaten denture adhesive denture cleaner detergent citric acid cleaning for pump pots so these all do not require a certification now Herman is asking if you're ordering carrots from the store you can't know where the carrots are coming from you don't have to assume that if you don't know you know if the soon they're coming right too strong you know so that's not really an issue it's only the problem is that really the the FDA guidelines require stores to list the source of all the produce so you go to the store you're gonna see a big sign say produce of Israel that's when you'll know and on the oranges for example there's a sticker on every single orange it says the country of origin on it but if you're getting playing carrots or any fruit or vegetable for that matter and you don't know where it's from you don't have assume that's from Israel yes because robe is not right so if you can't if you can't know then you and you don't have to do so much me definitely okay because the ones that say soap on them behind them and doesn't like them because that soap means that they are they are made with animal fats and even though it doesn't taste good and won't it won't if you used it it wouldn't be a problem I wouldn't for bigger your your utensils I'm gonna make them traif but it's not an ideal thing to use they'll say pig fat with your with your dishes so that's something that you want to avoid so if it says detergent that we can assume it doesn't have this soap in it it's washing gloves dried fruits without added ingredients other than sugar so you know that except for dried bananas because the bananas have some additives to them that will require certification marina flowering for example we Domino chickpea quinoa so I spelled is a plain plain flowers would be okay frozen fruit that's not prone to infestation for example peaches mangoes rhubarb cherries and doesn't assuming it doesn't list all their ingredients that's something that you can actually you can save money on if you want right if you buy store brand mangoes for instance without any other additives that would be cheap rings really not a big conscious problem with that it would be fine grain herbs dried herbs like spices honey pure unflavored lip gloss even flavored because you're not eating it on food okay so Janna is asking do you need to sift flour to check for bugs similar not unless you have a specific reason why you would be concerned about it regular flour you buy from the store in the United States anyway doesn't need to be sifted okay newsreel heiress is full you should consult the local rabona and guidance there okay milk all our vegetable policies are focused exclusively on North America right milk is acceptable if you do not keep Chloe throw any milk is okay mmm molasses unflavored nuts almonds walnuts cashews salted or unsalted raw dry roasted without oils so I just addressed that question about Canada yeah so far Canada still included in North America okay all right so wrapping Michelle what about the dry roasted nuts is there any generally speaking if there's no oils added it's assumed to be okay okay all right let me go back to one thing before you mentioned before about coconut powder that's a term that's not clear I think that everybody would agree that a desiccated coconut or a coconut flour would be okay without a hat sure but there are are such things as spray dried coconut milk and things like that that that definitely needs answer okay so we need to refine the list more that's what you're saying around Michelle okay I think the answer the question we had will this be online okay - and by the time Corona passes we'll have it online that's right okay onion throws and they're dried and we are not concerned about the problem of leaving these onions that you buy commercial from from a store overnight because there is a sponsor from Hermosa fighting that allowed there then we rely on that orange juice pure oven clean and heading back to the onions on an onion powder which some people may assume to be the same as dried onions okay and then onion powder sometimes I'll add a free-flow engagement which could be silica which is not an issue but oftentimes they'll add something like try a sedan or a fatty acid as which could be an issue we found that in many places that specifically with onion powder more common with onion powder sometimes in the most common situation is onion powder would it be nullified in the worst case in the worst case it would be nullified okay good open cleaner paper plates cups napkin believe it or not some people ask us about that and they're okay pasta raw flour just flour and water peppercorns plastic wrap of bags popcorn kernels rice raw parboiled but not instant rice because it's the rice needs a half-shirt because it is already mostly cooked so it needs a certification for the official you straw issues not because of ingredients but because it's mostly cooked already Kenny more raw again this is an item that needs to be checked for insects we had previous webinars about that and it's all that informations on our website called Seltzer unflavored silver polish and we come to the last few items spice is pure but not blends because blend sometimes I've added ingredients for flow agents split please raw sugar cane beet Brown confectioners sugar sugar substitutes tea or tea bags which are unflavored and water which is unflavored even with fluoride or added minerals so this is a list of things that you can buy more or less safely without a ok year round not paste up except make that clear the rest of the year Yaakov has a question about quinoa but that women will take that at the end if we can't get that vanilla extract does the vanilla extract require sugar man is asking from Michelle vanilla extract is really they take the beam and they extract it using an alcohol most cases depending on which part of the world it's coming from it's not an issue but it's available with the hazards beers much safer getting with the hazards that you know that the alcohol is not a wine based alcohol but rather like a sugar based alcohol so our official position is yes it does require a sure what about soy milk soy milk also soy milk has all kinds of attitude yes you're right it's also generally made at companies that also do dairy products so and that's also something to bear in mind well that's why most most a lot of soy milks and almond milks actually have a dairy designation by that shikaka even though they claim all over it as dairy free and allergen free often boy she's asking what about honey even from China that it's not really pure but right so we know that but I think that the item that they would add would be corn syrup which would wouldn't be a big problem so it wouldn't be acceptable okay so for Pesach it's an issue but the rest of the year we accept this for for as kosher as long as it says on it there's no additives okay so so Herman is asking about the vanilla extract if you order online from a store and you receive vanilla without an extract maybe without a half-shirt not sure what he means I guess sure that's right without an app should you use it Michele product of the USA or product of South Asia it would be okay okay there you go all right I mean that's what's happening South Asia Michelle so all those unlearning untraveled human beings out there south of China okay thank you very much for clarifying that we did get some more questions via email so let me go through those what about ice ice that you buy in a store does that does that require in the bag ice does that require a rapture and and this Richard does not and then the further question is what about in New York City where the water is the problem of the copepods we've had discussions about that the sponsor the the New York City water which we don't recommend to drink to eat those books oh so the ice in New York City is not a hundred percent okay sometimes it's filtered sometimes it's possibly not filtered but that I checked which one of our New York City rabbis and he said a lot of times you read the bag of the ice and the ice is imported from outside New York City it's not made in New York City you can see it on the bag you can see the the place of production and so that would be okay in outside of New York well okay well then the other questions have to do with the second part of our discussion which is what is it soccer and all that Jay I'm doing to visit facilities you know across to across the world when we know very nervous about the about the virus so everybody's very concerned about the virus so there's really a few issues and really every department in the star K is affected by this by this problem we have local restaurants we have factories in the United States a lot of them start with the essential factories which are producing fresh food items whether it's restaurants whether it's you know fresh produce facilities so they're operating as usual or as much as possible but because they're operating as usual and they need to operate with as many staff members as possible they have to put in extra safety protocols to make sure that whatever they're producing for their work you know their their work staff the environments going to be safe everyone read the news and heard about all the different facilities meatpacking plants and places like that we're you have a lot of workers enclosed you know in close quarters where it's not so necessarily feasible the social distance and you know there's been outbreaks in these kinds of places so a lot of companies are super sensitive right now to this kind of a thing so the problem that comes up would be requiring muskie come in and on our end how we all to certify the plants in these kind of situations where we feel we currently certified if the mosquito say what's a the plant effectively as usual you know under these circumstances that that's issue number one issue number two is gonna be you know more urban Shell's department we have industrial facilities for producing I wouldn't say I would say let's say non-essential goods but more industrial items citric acids and things like that which are more like industrial food products you're not gonna do not consider they're not like essential fresh products which people are buying off supermarket shelves and and it the these factors a lot of times are in areas particularly in the Far East where Corona is you know is a big problem and travel is is difficult if not next to impossible and there we have to figure out you know also what we can do to certify these plants so let's start with the United States you know the United States pretty much you know most companies are still operating most companies did not necessarily slow down you know small businesses were certainly affected more than the large corporations at least in the food sector and what we did the starcade did was we developed together and partners at NSF we developed a very strict Koba 19 protocol which all musky can feel much you can rest on mosquito required to follow which includes obviously all the CDC hand-washing recommendations wearing of a mask gloves etc temperature checking and making sure that you know they're not feeling unwell in any way shape or form and basically once those protocols are implemented carrying on the visits more or less as usual what we did was as we sent you know communication to all our companies and and restaurants it also and told them these are our protocols and we plan based on these protocols to continue our visits as usual because you know for ours purposes as far as kosher certification we feel that the regular regular visits are concerned essential and I'll mention all the government agencies from federal to state and local all agreed with that assertion that kosher supervision is considered a central service the fact that the star P is working remotely is is not because our office has to be closed it's because you know like most Jewish environments everyone loves to not social distance when we're in a normal situation so we're working remotely because we you know we have that issue there's too many people would the office otherwise but we are considered essential service and we're carrying on visits as usual in most situations obviously they're gonna be exceptions they're gonna be places where we absolutely can't get to and there you know Roma shell could correct me if I'm wrong but we're amazing we're gonna make a case-by-case determination based on the risk level in the facility whether it's something we can continue giving a hex on you know temporarily until we're able to visit or certain cases we have to either suspend the hexer temporarily we couldn't do all right house Crockett to me this runs are more or less out of the question in in foreign countries in the United States we have a lot that are going on obviously vegetables you know romaine lettuce is never missed a beat actually and another advantage of in the United States is that a lot of the industrial facilities are not in you know in middle of cities they're in you know more you know more out in the in the suburbs or in urban settings and therefore you know Corona is less of an issue in these places so you know how products and k-cups being certified especially thrown the combi spell during the pandemic the same way they're certified all the rest of the time are working as usual call of easter all we be getting that you know an honor shoot must be last week or so we've been getting i can't even tell you how many questions about the call of easter all you know how we know do we have milk this week you know i said we didn't miss a single week of milking in the last three months either you know cows have to be milked three times a day cows are not don't care about coronavirus they want to give their milk and we're happy to take their milk so we've actually we have you had much Keith him yeah we didn't miss a single shift on on all these small farms or in restaurants for that matter either you know the ones that are actually open the ones that are open are open for take-out obviously whatever based on whatever you know local guidelines they have to follow but mesquite them are working as usual and I'll add a shout out to all of them really being moister nephesh you know with all their PPE you know equipment and things like that that they have that they want to wear that we insist they wear to make sure they stay safe but really being much tuna fish to make sure there's really no break in the food supply chain no we're not no gross fish plants that that we do like major productions overseas and the like we're not doing any such productions right now we've canceled some production maybe we do have some so much get him there at the time let's talk about shortages let's not talk about shortages you know it was crew cheese it was toilet paper it was hand sanitizer you know it's it's a everybody has her behind him has been saying we he can promise us that nobody will start you know even if you don't have enough cream cheese for sure you know there's there's nobody will starve he promises that before he said that he thinks that he read reports that there's many people gaining weight during the virus so apparently there's not a shortage of food so social potato chips that's the shore particular brand of item that you want but you know that's that's a possibility so we would recommend that you check you'd be more careful in checking the labels for the Heckscher because it's possible that they require a sure thing that you should check them because it's possible then it over time I mean what you're eating now probably was produced you know months ago but I had fun it's possible that we would not be not be served I'm guessing shell didn't we we found some local must keep him right in countries we have some local muscular man in India we have some local mosquito and they have sometimes some places they I cannot get to right away but we've been able to get special government passes had a mascara from the Philippines just last week it's got a special path to be able to go to different locations in order to do inspections so whenever possible we whenever possibly are continuing regulations we really been pushing back on the companies who sometimes the companies will say you know well we rather you not come oh well you know they don't tell that the health inspector you know the health inspector is allowed to come so we really we really need to come in a nice way we talk to them and we explain to them with rabbit Emily was saying about our protocols and they've you know really been you know accommodating us I think the main thing that helped us a lot was we were proactive in the sense that we reached out to them first and tell the told them that we are continuing regular visits and here are our protocols and and you know I'd say ninety-eight ninety-nine percent of the time they were very receptive to it I mean and appreciate it that we're taking that know those levels of safety measures and just one question on the side because I've been getting this all week also as bad as far as relying on cameras for hollister all you know we it's certainly a mile I guess and a lot of tunnels about that Starrcade does not rely on that we never have and we don't rely on cameras and no brush every question right now because yeah I'm a son plays an artist all particularly in even according to so much talk is that in the past didn't rely on harvest all in order to saw where they had extremely strict lockdown procedures than certain cases they ended up relying on halvah strong you know and I don't want to get into the particulars of what conscious agencies and artists are doing I wish you had slowed hell you can find that out for yourself from your conscious agencies there but you know suffice to say that we never relied on that even before the specific consumer products that we know of which is dark a has removed their extra already and you would not find a star K on it any longer we'd have to go and make it make a list and see if there's I can't think of anything I think a lot of it was like in it like like that we didn't do a couple of fish productions so you know the fish productions always would either have a hacker or not you know so I don't know that we've had a number of companies that we had to cancel special productions on but nothing that would would be easily you know recognizable to the consumer that that's we looked into this you know just I get this question a lot special runs that we had to cancel okay so now that let's move on to the next part rabbi Chandler you are going to take us Tora what yeah so so I am sitting right now in Serengeti s grill which is closed which is a restaurant in Baltimore they are operating only the other side of the restaurant which is accents grill they also have a dairy side on a different part of the shopping centers so they're operating for take-out curbside delivery only and so we are doing regular inspections no she is here regular hours and myself or by starting my assistant do also we do our regular inspections so you know it's a little bit extra precautions that we have to take going in and out of places and I guess Sarai Goldberg wanted to show everybody how we go into restaurants nowadays so I have to go up wait a second you're going into so the restaurant I'm sitting here in the let's see if you can see this I'm sitting here in the dining room which has been turned into a storage room because they're not let it operated by law but the kitchens are operating and all the restaurants and most almost all the restaurants in town here and bolts more are operating maybe some with less hours or so but all of them are operating and it really was like that the entire time up to right before Pesach you know over Pesach you know we had a bunch of places that were open this year for Pesach for take-out obviously the supermarket's etc and and the rest since then the restaurants also everyone's you know it's a struggle restaurants is certainly struggling you know terribly caterers are certainly struggling terribly you know we encourage people if they're able to people are also struggling terribly not to try to help support the restaurants because they're doing their best to stay open to serve people but more from our perspective it's business as usual you know we have to go in and make sure everything is kosher like we've always been doing vegetables need to be checked you know meats coming in and everything so you know my days I have not had such short work days even since this whole coronavirus thing started I know I think we're working more because besides you know even if there might be less companies calling now because some of them are operating less hours but every question now takes much more time to answer because you have to think you have to actually think about the answers now right you know like every every question is more complicated now because of this whole thing oh yeah I used to be you need a mosquito here with Santa Maria not one second I can I send them as yet do I have enough musk you can't dissent it everything becomes more complicated make sure that the math can go right oh and you know people calling the starcade there's they're being serviced if they want I see some of the questions here which we're not necessarily being able to answer all the questions but but you know if you call us at 4 1 0 4 8 4 4 1 1 0 or info at Starrcade org and somebody there is going to answer your call or or enter your email and you know people are spread out but we're functioning at a very very high level I'm so happy telling you the restaurant yeah sure give me give me a minute to get geared up over here now I do have you know the n95 mask a Hofstra one and four the reason for that while we got these foster ones and we didn't first all we didn't take them away from hospitals but we do also certify nursing homes in those facilities we went out of our way and spent a lot of money to make sure that all our mush gave them and people who from our side at least who are going into any health care facility are properly outfitted so we take extra precautions and once I have that in 95 I wear it everywhere that I'm going into their needs a mask but I do use another mask on top of it we say I double cover not because you know I'm a ha sido sha woman but the reason is because I try to keep 1095 clean the way I keep it clean is that we're a double covering over it you can't see that I'm laughing but I'm laughing you know that's the problem behind this thing you know alright we're gloves and we also by the way there's a big tumult about gloves and the CDC does not recommend gloves 100% because if you don't know pay attention to your gloves your gloves will become just as contaminated as your hands and uganda starting whatever germs that way to but we had two special training sessions for all our much skeeve him in the proper technique for putting on and taking off masks and gloves and face shields and everything like that so they'd be familiar with it and so they could be able to protect themselves okay give me one second and you can finish talking about something else I'll be right back with you okay fine thank you all right so let's take some more of these these questions that came in here rabbi Michelle okay ordering salmon from a store online is tricky and because it would need to have certain requirements number one we only use farmed salmon we don't use wild salmon because of these little worms in the wild salmon sometimes and we don't make sure that it has the skin on we want to be doing it right you want to make sure it has a skin so you can see where the scales were and then you'd have to be concerned about how they cut it at the in the in this store did they use a non-commissioned knife that problem you can get around by washing it or cutting off a little piece where they could but you should make sure that it comes with the with the with the skin and that it's it's farm salmon going through our policies let's see someone claiming well yo chef said the cameras okay for coffee so is that correct well that's what I figure Bentley was alluding to before I didn't want to talk about it really but there is yes there is rabbi yosef has discussed that and you know but you'd also need even if the camera is okay like how do you monitor afterwards the camera is okay to be call a bistro all right because you can see they're just cows getting milk now how do you monitor where that milk is going afterwards like which tank is going into and to make sure that it remains there made coffee so that's a little bit of a technical issue that you'd need to solve yeah we don't it so not really applicable okay okay Robert Ellen your BAE I am back okay so I'm gonna turn my camera around so you can see we'll follow me exactly where I'm going over here on the front of accents is actually their brand new wine store which we've been very involved in advising them as far as kosher wine the beer issue especially in Maryland so that's the first thing that when I walk we look through to make sure that nothing here is not kosher now liquor stores have always been considered something that's essential I think maybe more so now than ever before you know and based on the beer sales you know which were involved with in tracking because of commercial oppressive issues it certainly seems to be that beer is actually an alcoholic beverages are selling at a higher rate this time these few months than anything else okay so we're gonna walk into the kitchen over here first is a hand sanitizer which every kitchen has to have give me one second I'll put the camera down it's like it's rub it on my hands as we're walking in as you can see everybody here has to wear masks and gloves Oh what's this yeah it helps in a little bit of Spanish as you walk into the kitchen the mesquite by the way is standing behind me rue vane I'll show you his face and it's all here yes it was behind me some way through veins for your masseuse nephesh so the first thing I would do is you know I'm gonna walk through the line over here I check all the fridges and all the canned goods and make sure everything is kosher over there besides the nastya check and get in all the fires have to be lit we have the pilot lights right there which we very where is it highlights making sure they're all on I don't you can see it and walk back over here to the storage area as the fridges the freezers walking through to make sure that everything here is 100% kosher checking the meat that are in the freezer you know which is and this is the standard restaurant inspections that goes on daily in full day life and times of all-star kay supervise every conscious supervisor in every agency I just think yeah so that's a that's a good question to ask but sometimes you might not wanna know the answer no but the answer is is that you know when you're familiar facility then you can go through much quicker than otherwise so I can walk crew and you you know what's supposed to be where and generally it's I'm not gonna say we never find things but more efficient we never find things that are a real gross problem it's just a matter of they have their fish plates too close to the meat area you know small little things like that that will point out because these are the things that will catch your eye when you know what you're looking for is so that just takes a little bit of experience it's not something that is a tremendous you know don't necessarily need a PhD for it's just a matter of just knowing what your split is that you're supposed to be looking for so again you know this is this there's nothing new or additional that we do right now because of covert 19 it's just a matter of carrying on business as usual under these circumstances wearing all the extra protective gear and which gets very hot by the way you know it gets very hot under here you know I have it situated like this so my glasses don't fog up and I actually keep anti fog spray in my car so I spray my glasses with it so it keeps my glasses clear because now if you walk into a restaurant and you're trying to check it for conscious and your glasses fogged up you're not gonna be so effective so you mention about the fish in the meat is there is that something you can show that's yeah I'll show you so right here this is weird for some reason the cameras like a little backwards it's on my right but for some reasons on your left but okay um this area right over here and see my hand right here this is the fish area right here this would they prepare all the fish they have a separate fish stove right over here and they have yellow knives that's designated for fish all the fish is kept over here everything else in the kitchen is fallacious so it's that's really what it is sometimes if you'll have a fish dish that's prepared over here and they want to add something from the other side that you know is not necessarily meat so they have a system how they keep it separate but you know when I walk in I'm gonna watch for that and make sure that they're actually adhering to the proper system yes open to close open to closed right okay Barbara is asking according to food safety guidelines as we saw in the fridge so we have to address that remember that if you know if there's gross Health Department violations then possibly but generally speaking all the especially now our visited very often by the health inspectors and this / here specifically Larry who's the owner is somebody who was actually very very health conscious himself so he's really very on top of things okay good okay all right thank you very much for my time I should call you let's see if there's any last-minute questions that we hear on that we didn't get or that people if people have more questions again you can call us at 4 1 0 4 8 4 4 1 1 0 or email us influence our our decade org is the question that we heat up our my buddy found my 10 minutes picture at least as cash crews have worms what is done differently here okay so are we worried about yeah so the question was cashews and worms so yes it could be a province certain parts of the world in America we have not found it to necessarily be so common so that's why in America we don't require cashews to be checked and when I say in America I mean the ones that we've found to be sold in stores in in America and in North America but in our I just roll you know certainly they have different issues over there and from what I understand also is that the guidance of the bottom and cautious experts there is that you should check cashers forums and therefore when you're an artist all you should certainly follow their guidance you know what I heard when the issue started coming out I was an artist role on porn and that's when they they started you know with the closing the borders and everything and I wasn't sure I was really get back to the United States the bar fish and we got back to Thursday night right after quorum when I was listening to the news and that's how you tell if you understand Hebrew or not so they were interviewing a supermarket chain distributor and he said that people are getting worried about the food and he said there's no reason to worry about the food in Israel because Chris for defense reasons they have stock of up to a year of product that's it they should never come you know be under a seat something like that there's tremendous stocks that they keep and they replenish that and they give you the old product and I thought at that time that could be if that's true there could be a reason why Israel has a greater problem one of the reasons sighs the temperature has a greater problem of organization because they're really storing product for up to a year and then giving you so you know the bugs have a chance to blue free right that that is definitely possible it's hard to know exactly you know I've we've never done our own research nor too strong but they certainly have reliable agencies that have I don't know the reasons why they feel things are more infested there but they certainly do and you know a welcome to theorize but I can't speak to that it's just a theory that's all okay moisture is asking does much you have to close the oven every time it's open if it switches off when it's open so it's not an oven that turns off every time that connection oven yeah convection ovens a lot of convection ovens have that issue and it depends how they're situate a lot of them are able to get if you get depends where you get your convection oven from they can install an override feature which negates the need for that but if they don't then it's something mostly it has to certainly be on top of that it's not necesarily every time it opens and closes it but mesquita has to be on top of the oven doesn't close down it doesn't cool down I'm sorry right right so so a lot of ins you know especially a connection on it's been running at 350 will will have you know what will take some time you know at least 5-10 minutes for the heat to cool down below temperatures that would become a problem obviously you saw so that yes that and that is that is the situation and it's something the most EF does have to be on top of asking is it possible to wash your plant virtually theoretically it's not something that we would do I don't really see how you could I mean if it maybe if it's a place that you're you're totally familiar with possibly we're not doing that no no no I'm I can't I can't see it I mean because you have to make sure the temperature gets up and everything right Alvar it and it's all clean how you gonna check how are you gonna virtually check if a vat is clean or not right so what we did do in China for example not forecaster in Costigan we would not do in fashion but we did do in China where some places where we had a local person a local from person who is who was able to do an inspection for us but he might not be you know he might not be familiar with the plant cuz never went there before he will go with the mascara on the phone with unzoom or something like that and they'll go together through the plants as opposed to just you know what would we have they're doing right much Pierre is doing an inspection but I'll have the regular mushke F on the phone to guide him as opposed to what I know there's a lot of talk people are hearing about what's called what they call a virtual visit where you'll give you have one of the plant personnel walk around with a phone you know that's not something that if the utensils are clean or not on the camera it's gonna look as clear as it does rabbi tend they're walking around the facility before you can sort of see it but you can't really get you know exactly so how would that work exactly we would until we wouldn't allow that so that's not something that we would do okay all right so I want to let me see if there are any other issues that we didn't that we didn't get to there is some issue about quinoa about getting kinwa infestation we had really a whole webinar about it yes videos on it keeping in the freezer will help it will help if it wasn't infested when you bought it yeah so if you buy buy then you check it and you know that it's not infest and then you put in the freezer that's a good idea that will keep it from getting further infested okay okay so thank you very much for joining and I'm glad that we were able to get in a little peek behind the scenes with the accents restaurant and see that it's still it's still running right Sam the restaurant is open for pickup only is that the idea yeah pick up or curbside pickup and pick up and delivery it looks pretty busy for this good question it's all serif yonk this or people ordering stuff but hey you know Branca you know burnish song kids pronounces everybody and you know the restaurants when this whole thing started really had no idea how they would survive and no Bronco Shem they're all still here and maybe not making as much as they you know usually would this time of year but you know everyone's okay okay great all right well thank you Thank You Michele rabbit Tendler for joining I think yeah thank all the listeners for for coming and usually this webinar is the last Wednesday at 12 noon but again we the reason that we changed it we found that a lot of people have their kids at home and the kids are on the computer and you know a bunch of kids and only so many computers are abilities to watch so we we thought that this would be at the end of the day would be a little more accessible for people to get to the computers you who that says he likes the new time noon is lunchtime well your barrel Watson are there bugs inside strawberries no no it's only outside it's not it's it's not impossible to find maggot sometimes inside the strawberries but it's not common at all it's now it's well below what they would call me at home on two levels so it's not something we have to ensure strawberries there will be no way to eat them all right nobody throw berries that's right that's right okay all right the strawberries are also a recess special as they say you know many homes I could tell you that the smoothie machines start going as soon as recess starts on the Zoomers or phone conferences and you know so we're seeing a spike in frozen strawberries sales because of that I want to ask I want to try something now we're at the end if there's anybody who wants to ask a question by my video we can put you up on the screen with some some system class participation just tech chat over here that you that you're willing to you want to be you want to be recognized for your question and we could put you up I don't know if we have such brave listeners but it does add something to be more personal if we can see who you are because everybody has a camera we know you all have cameras now we don't do this on Zoom Zoom Zoom as security issues zoom has some technical I've been I've mentioned a whereby there are I've been on a lot of webinars not everybody uses uses doom let me see if I can get album Horowitz over here let's see if he can beam us see his if he has his video on and yes you can keep your San Francisco background on or where every year what background you put on your your your zoom oh look at see it's let me see I wanted to come on where is he oh there is okay hello how are you we can't hear you though he may be highways can you Amy now we can hear you yeah are you in Baltimore where are you okay okay so another half that I work with I go every few months to someplace and I and I check it and they have a kosher run and originally I was supposed to go and it hasn't happened yet supposed to be it was supposed to be next week but then they they were very concerned I said to them I took the test and they said they don't know allowing visitors it's a big company so anyway they sort of in charge of me sometimes goes he worked it out to do the virtual thing and I was really upset about it and I spoke to rub on him and everything so I just wanted to understand if there's any in without halakha how how it could be done because the problem is that we just want to know like cuz I I said like like by the black engineer there's semen kufan on it speaks about milking that even if you sit outside and if the former hassles a trade so you can't you can't be famous sit outside you have to actually see and then talks about standing up when you're sitting down when he's standing up so I said when this when this man is strafing runs how can you do it virtually I said even if you have the camera the whole time when the cash ring you look before you look after but it's not I didn't understand how I just was said to this Rob who's sort of in charge I said isn't it come early if you can't even do it when when this farmer is you you go it's I as cows but because he has those has traced somewhere else so you can't you can't just be sitting outside right so it's actually we spoke with it's actually cooked as well but your whole view all talks about that what's great in the class right right but you know it's it's I would say you should address that question sort of a mass here you know it's a complicated question I know where we're Harwood's I think you have a military background so you're trying to hand us a loaded gun but we're not willing to take it yes we need to be careful it's not it's not something that is just one time so I said I said to this room well what's what's sharp why one time if you think you could do it and why not every time I think I think the best way to dress is you know we're behind him and told us never week before Pesach when everyone's going crazy before pay stop find and coolest for this and coolest for that and I understood you know everybody say he said I lived through World War two he said that was a much more stressful time there were a mess of food shortages then and people's lives were truly in danger actively you know it's not like that now and you know as much as possible is around just corner behind him and he said and much as possible to burnish land if anything is money from us you know to fix our relationship with him which means to try to do mitzvahs as best as we can even under the circumstances are not necessarily look for coulis so his guidance is obviously has something that has steered you know the StarCAVE for sure and you know was something that we found as a tremendous physic anyone else sorry we don't let me see if there's anyone else who would like to ask you a question here before we end you can you can chat with us real quick but you know our policy is not to address anything guys do with any other we're just talking about caches in general and and the starcade so you can you can find our other webinars archived at our - k org and and if we 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